'Status' dogs concern for Sussex animal charities (From The Argus)

people think they can make easy money breeding staffie dogs , teenage boys mainly . should be over 21 to own a dog and have a permit

john5001 wrote:
people think they can make easy money breeding staffie dogs , teenage boys mainly . should be over 21 to own a dog and have a permit

Agreed. Also it's artificial selection run amok. Frankendogs.

Unemployed people shouldn't be allowed to breed dogs

the council should play their part and have a NO dog policy in their council homes without permission and strong clauses e.g. no breeding, no to certain breeds, no if there is no garden, must be registered and microchipped and neutered etc. or lose their tenancy. this sensible approach happens in the private sector, the problem would diminishes very quickly.

bug eye wrote:
the council should play their part and have a NO dog policy in their council homes without permission and strong clauses e.g. no breeding, no to certain breeds, no if there is no garden, must be registered and microchipped and neutered etc. or lose their tenancy. this sensible approach happens in the private sector, the problem would diminishes very quickly.

Just don't allow dogs in council property and as soon as someone has claimed benefits for over 3 months remove their right to pets, simples

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

bug eye wrote:
the council should play their part and have a NO dog policy in their council homes without permission and strong clauses e.g. no breeding, no to certain breeds, no if there is no garden, must be registered and microchipped and neutered etc. or lose their tenancy. this sensible approach happens in the private sector, the problem would diminishes very quickly.

Just don't allow dogs in council property and as soon as someone has claimed benefits for over 3 months remove their right to pets, simples

The Green view might be that squatters and prisoners etc should be allowed to have dogs maintained at the tax payers expense.

Perhaps prison cells could be modified to include a kennel/s as well as the existing en-suite and travelers could be provided with free access to free of charge long term pet care arrangements.

Working tax payers could commit time to caring for the dogs in their spare time perhaps?

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

bug eye wrote:
the council should play their part and have a NO dog policy in their council homes without permission and strong clauses e.g. no breeding, no to certain breeds, no if there is no garden, must be registered and microchipped and neutered etc. or lose their tenancy. this sensible approach happens in the private sector, the problem would diminishes very quickly.

Just don't allow dogs in council property and as soon as someone has claimed benefits for over 3 months remove their right to pets, simples

How bigoted! You think all council house tenants should not be allowed dogs whatsoever? Even an old lady living alone with her yorkie terrier?

Or anyone on benefits it seems. So anyone losing their job and falling on hard times should just get rid of their beloved pet? Yeah, great idea. What shall we do with all these unwanted animals then - exterminate them? Give them to animal charities *sorry no room at the inn*, or just chuck them out on the street.

Simples - more like simpleton!

I agree with some things Bug Eye has suggested such as neutering and no breeding rules in tenancy. Sensible ideas...

thevoiceoftruth wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro

ng wrote:

bug eye wrote:
the council should play their part and have a NO dog policy in their council homes without permission and strong clauses e.g. no breeding, no to certain breeds, no if there is no garden, must be registered and microchipped and neutered etc. or lose their tenancy. this sensible approach happens in the private sector, the problem would diminishes very quickly.

Just don't allow dogs in council property and as soon as someone has claimed benefits for over 3 months remove their right to pets, simples

How bigoted! You think all council house tenants should not be allowed dogs whatsoever? Even an old lady living alone with her yorkie terrier?

Or anyone on benefits it seems. So anyone losing their job and falling on hard times should just get rid of their beloved pet? Yeah, great idea. What shall we do with all these unwanted animals then - exterminate them? Give them to animal charities *sorry no room at the inn*, or just chuck them out on the street.

Simples - more like simpleton!

I agree with some things Bug Eye has suggested such as neutering and no breeding rules in tenancy. Sensible ideas...

You are clearly lacking the ability to link cause and effect, or deal with concepts.

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

bug eye wrote:
the council should play their part and have a NO dog policy in their council homes without permission and strong clauses e.g. no breeding, no to certain breeds, no if there is no garden, must be registered and microchipped and neutered etc. or lose their tenancy. this sensible approach happens in the private sector, the problem would diminishes very quickly.

Just don't allow dogs in council property and as soon as someone has claimed benefits for over 3 months remove their right to pets, simples

fgs i live in a council house and have a dog,he is loved fed and we pay full vet fees,just because i live in a council house doesnt mean i cant look after or afford my pet!!
council already has rules about pets and if you feel the need you can report anyone who is claiming jsa etc that are breeding dogs as its extra income and has to be declared.

joanne_77 wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro

ng wrote:

bug eye wrote:
the council should play their part and have a NO dog policy in their council homes without permission and strong clauses e.g. no breeding, no to certain breeds, no if there is no garden, must be registered and microchipped and neutered etc. or lose their tenancy. this sensible approach happens in the private sector, the problem would diminishes very quickly.

Just don't allow dogs in council property and as soon as someone has claimed benefits for over 3 months remove their right to pets, simples

fgs i live in a council house and have a dog,he is loved fed and we pay full vet fees,just because i live in a council house doesnt mean i cant look after or afford my pet!!
council already has rules about pets and if you feel the need you can report anyone who is claiming jsa etc that are breeding dogs as its extra income and has to be declared.

My suggestion is to stimulate debate, not entrenchment and attack.

The thinking was that as council houses are subsidised by tax payers (as are benefits), people on the receiving end shouldn't be able to afford pets; if they can then they can afford to pay more in rent. Accordingly it does make sense.

Thoughts?

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

joanne_77 wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro


ng wrote:

bug eye wrote:
the council should play their part and have a NO dog policy in their council homes without permission and strong clauses e.g. no breeding, no to certain breeds, no if there is no garden, must be registered and microchipped and neutered etc. or lose their tenancy. this sensible approach happens in the private sector, the problem would diminishes very quickly.

Just don't allow dogs in council property and as soon as someone has claimed benefits for over 3 months remove their right to pets, simples

fgs i live in a council house and have a dog,he is loved fed and we pay full vet fees,just because i live in a council house doesnt mean i cant look after or afford my pet!!
council already has rules about pets and if you feel the need you can report anyone who is claiming jsa etc that are breeding dogs as its extra income and has to be declared.

My suggestion is to stimulate debate, not entrenchment and attack.

The thinking was that as council houses are subsidised by tax payers (as are benefits), people on the receiving end shouldn't be able to afford pets; if they can then they can afford to pay more in rent. Accordingly it does make sense.

Thoughts?

it makes no difference,those renting or own have higher costs so may not be able to afford a pet,i dont see how you are housed makes any difference if you are on a low income and get housing/council tax benefit you can use pdsa often cpl etc offer free spaying/neutering,fo
od can be brought cheap.
I do think the law needs to change that ALL dogs should be chipped,tags already have to be worn out in public but often see dogs without and its never really enforced.

DDA needs to be changed too and updated as it clearly hasnt worked BSL is rubbish,owners should be held more responsible for their pets action rather than blaming the dog etc.

I think that some folk come on here just to troll Debate somethings??? what an idiot ! I have Parrots as pets and I live within a housing society complex ! I at last have contributed something to my country ! but because I do not own my home I should not be allowed my companions ?? next it will be those living in council housing can not have kids can not get married what world are you living in ?? if you want to be part of society give something dont Take! ie the "P"

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

bug eye wrote:
the council should play their part and have a NO dog policy in their council homes without permission and strong clauses e.g. no breeding, no to certain breeds, no if there is no garden, must be registered and microchipped and neutered etc. or lose their tenancy. this sensible approach happens in the private sector, the problem would diminishes very quickly.

Just don't allow dogs in council property and as soon as someone has claimed benefits for over 3 months remove their right to pets, simples

So it should be the same with children then ? A dog is as much the part of a family.

Doh there would be more homeless dogs
Soon you will only be able to have a dog if yor a Tory and live un a mansion bought with other peoples money if not the bank, If you can't afford it don't have it simple.

Also people on benefits and in council houses most of them have been paying tax when working so are tax payers,Whats free ??????

chrisinbrighton wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro

ng wrote:

bug eye wrote:
the council should play their part and have a NO dog policy in their council homes without permission and strong clauses e.g. no breeding, no to certain breeds, no if there is no garden, must be registered and microchipped and neutered etc. or lose their tenancy. this sensible approach happens in the private sector, the problem would diminishes very quickly.

Just don't allow dogs in council property and as soon as someone has claimed benefits for over 3 months remove their right to pets, simples

So it should be the same with children then ? A dog is as much the part of a family.

Doh there would be more homeless dogs
Soon you will only be able to have a dog if yor a Tory and live un a mansion bought with other peoples money if not the bank, If you can't afford it don't have it simple.

Also people on benefits and in council houses most of them have been paying tax when working so are tax payers,Whats free ??????

But Chris, have most of them really paid in more than they are taking out?

My point was that people receiving subsidies should not then be able to use that money to fund dogs; once the subsidy ceases then perhaps with proper approvals then its OK, although so called status dogs could remain out of scope. Not sure about parrots though?

I think the concept of applying similar principles to children becomes more complex, although could be explored, maybe using a maximum number allowed per household.

In terms of dogs for Tories then not sure how this would work.

Somethingsarejustwro
ng wrote:

thevoiceoftruth wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:

bug eye wrote: the council should play their part and have a NO dog policy in their council homes without permission and strong clauses e.g. no breeding, no to certain breeds, no if there is no garden, must be registered and microchipped and neutered etc. or lose their tenancy. this sensible approach happens in the private sector, the problem would diminishes very quickly.

Just don't allow dogs in council property and as soon as someone has claimed benefits for over 3 months remove their right to pets, simples

How bigoted! You think all council house tenants should not be allowed dogs whatsoever? Even an old lady living alone with her yorkie terrier? Or anyone on benefits it seems. So anyone losing their job and falling on hard times should just get rid of their beloved pet? Yeah, great idea. What shall we do with all these unwanted animals then - exterminate them? Give them to animal charities *sorry no room at the inn*, or just chuck them out on the street. Simples - more like simpleton! I agree with some things Bug Eye has suggested such as neutering and no breeding rules in tenancy. Sensible ideas...

You are clearly lacking the ability to link cause and effect, or deal with concepts.

Er, I don't think I have a problem linking concepts. You haven't answered any of my valid points. In fact, you seem to spend every waking moment on here, so I doubt very much that you are working yourself - I'm not sure how you can criticise others.

Council housing is just affordable housing - it is not only for those on benefits. Your ridiculous idea would never work in a month of Sundays. Anyway enjoy the rest of your day trolling the Argus. I got work to do.

thevoiceoftruth wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro

ng wrote:

thevoiceoftruth wrote:

Somethingsarejustwro ng wrote:

bug eye wrote: the council should play their part and have a NO dog policy in their council homes without permission and strong clauses e.g. no breeding, no to certain breeds, no if there is no garden, must be registered and microchipped and neutered etc. or lose their tenancy. this sensible approach happens in the private sector, the problem would diminishes very quickly.

Just don't allow dogs in council property and as soon as someone has claimed benefits for over 3 months remove their right to pets, simples

How bigoted! You think all council house tenants should not be allowed dogs whatsoever? Even an old lady living alone with her yorkie terrier? Or anyone on benefits it seems. So anyone losing their job and falling on hard times should just get rid of their beloved pet? Yeah, great idea. What shall we do with all these unwanted animals then - exterminate them? Give them to animal charities *sorry no room at the inn*, or just chuck them out on the street. Simples - more like simpleton! I agree with some things Bug Eye has suggested such as neutering and no breeding rules in tenancy. Sensible ideas...

You are clearly lacking the ability to link cause and effect, or deal with concepts.

Er, I don't think I have a problem linking concepts. You haven't answered any of my valid points. In fact, you seem to spend every waking moment on here, so I doubt very much that you are working yourself - I'm not sure how you can criticise others.

Council housing is just affordable housing - it is not only for those on benefits. Your ridiculous idea would never work in a month of Sundays. Anyway enjoy the rest of your day trolling the Argus. I got work to do.

Not entirely sure why you perceive that I am not working and are spending my waking day on this site. Mobile technology is great and ideal to keep in touch and I guess my 15 mins a day (total time) is in the main within commuting windows.

On the point you raise re affordable housing - yes its more affordable due to subsidies; which I suspect you are enjoying.

There aren't any valid points raised by you, so therefore impossible to respond. However, if you lay out what your issues are in bullet point format then more than happy to consider and provide my thoughts.

A long time ago, people thought the world was flat - :-)

Best regards

I've got the solution... Any male under 30 with a subnormal IQ is not allowed to own a Staffy. Problem solved. God I hate chavs.

KarenT wrote:
I've got the solution... Any male under 30 with a subnormal IQ is not allowed to own a Staffy. Problem solved. God I hate chavs.

Would certainly go someway towards addressing the current issues and a positive step in the right direction.