Saltdean Lido is in worse state than feared

Saltdean Lido – picture by Paul Zara Saltdean Lido – picture by Paul Zara

Historic Saltdean Lido is in a worse state of repair than originally feared – and will cost hundreds of thousands of pounds to bring back into use.

The Grade II* listed lido has been shut all summer after Brighton and Hove City Council seized back control of the seafront site.

To ensure it meets basic health and safety requirements, the local authority is due to agree the spending of £130,000 for urgent work.

However, this does not include the cost of repairing the art deco building, which in July 2011 was estimated at about £260,000.

Local authority bosses admitted they were still not sure who would take over the running of the 1930s attraction.

Geoffrey Bowden, chairman of the economic development committee, said: “We have inherited a building in a worse state than we or anyone else anticipated.

“Like so many residents, both locally and across the city, we dearly want the lido returned to a good condition and opened to the public.

“The debate is about how that happens, not whether it should happen.”

The council took full control of the building from Dennis Audley, the holder of a 125-year lease, on June 6. Since then the majority of the building has been closed to the public.

Money for the urgent repairs, which include insurance costs, fire risk assessments, asbestos removal and upgrading utilities, are expected to be approved at a town hall meeting on Thursday, September 20.

Future options

Some of the funding for the extra repairs could come from the £335,000 Section 106 planning contributions made by the developers of the Ocean Hotel scheme.

Longer term, the council is considering three options – running the lido in-house, seeking a not-for-profit external operator, or handing it to a commercial firm. A number of informal meetings will be held in the coming weeks with potential operators.

However, the council reminded interested parties there was a need to balance the rights of third parties, such as the Saltdean Community Association, who are sub-tenants of the site, and White Rooms Beauty Therapy Rooms.

Rebecca Crook, of the Save Saltdean Lido campaign group, said it was ready to take over the running of the building.

She said: “We have developed a strong and robust business plan and have a clear and sustainable vision of how the pool, art deco building and external grounds can be restored to become an exciting and vibrant destination for the people of Brighton and Hove.”

But Coun Bowden said: “Some people are suggesting simplistic solutions that ignore the law and rights and obligations of third parties. The council cannot simply hand the keys over to an interested party.”

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Comments(16)

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...
11:52am Thu 13 Sep 12

Is it time to face facts yet? As a swimming pool Saltdean Lido is in the wrong place - and now it's in the wrong time. People today want water parks with slides and flumes rather than simple swimming pools.

It's time has passed. By all means preserve the building, but it will NEVER be a success as a simple swimming pool. Never.

maxiboy_ says...
11:53am Thu 13 Sep 12

Although historic, this site would be perfect to create a brand new indoor water theme park. The city is crying out for such a facility.

jamesdevonport says...
12:07pm Thu 13 Sep 12

I agree, I think the time may have come to let go. Throwing good money after bad to save things like this could be better invested in a brand new facility which Brighton really needs.

mustaphaLeeko says...
12:10pm Thu 13 Sep 12

I agree, yes save it by all means, but do something more with it, why on earth would you go there when the sea is a few hundred metres away?

It's as jimmys rabbit says, wrong place and wrong time!

Maybe enclose the pool with a retractable roof and heat it during the winter so that it can be used year round and not just a couple of months a year...

If not, sell it off to the local community and let them pay for it and NOT have the majority of people in Brighton pay towards something they will NEVER use anyway as it currently is !!!!!

Wiggsy says...
12:54pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Disagree.

The Lido's in London continue to be popular, if the Saltdean Lido had the right amount of money invested in bringing it up-to scratch and including facilities one expects this day and age, then why not.

Just because its on the coast doesn't mean it can't attract people to visit - the paddling pool in the children's play area near the West Pier is always busy on summer days - its just needs the right marketing strategy if and when the work is complete.

olebut says...
1:29pm Thu 13 Sep 12

As a historic building surely the whole should be set up as a charitable trust, run at arms length from the council and in that way Lottery Monies and other grants would be available to it.

Whatever happens the building must be saved at put back as an operational Lido as an icon of the area

rolivan says...
2:04pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Why has it taken until now to have Asbestos removed?Who knew it was there and why wasn't it removed by the previous leaseholder as part of an agreement of tenure of lease?Do the residents of Saltdean want it just for themselves or would they be in agreement to have a larger Facility built incorporating the existing Lido for residents of the City?

BiggerH says...
4:30pm Thu 13 Sep 12

I'd still rather go to this lido than the craphole that is King Alfred

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...
5:32pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Wiggsy wrote:
Disagree.

The Lido's in London continue to be popular, if the Saltdean Lido had the right amount of money invested in bringing it up-to scratch and including facilities one expects this day and age, then why not.

Just because its on the coast doesn't mean it can't attract people to visit - the paddling pool in the children's play area near the West Pier is always busy on summer days - its just needs the right marketing strategy if and when the work is complete.
I wondered when someone was going to bring up the London Lidos. When you think about it you'll realise why the LONDON ones are still there and ones by the coast have largely disappeared.

And if you look at the history of the Lido you'll see that it's always struggled since it was first built. One of the main reasons is it's location; as you point out the paddling pool by the West Pier is always busy, but the Lido is not actually in Brighton and is a bus ride away from all the other attractions. No amount of investment will change that.

Worthing Lido is a good example of 'life after swimming', and I think we all agree it would be a shame if the building went the same way as Black Rock.

PETE OF QUEENS PARK says...
7:01pm Thu 13 Sep 12

If the council had not lent millions for the West Pier tower which we still do not know whether it will ever be built and if it is a total waste of money,they would not have had to hum and ah about the lido project at Saltdean

jondonnis1980 says...
1:27pm Fri 14 Sep 12

These old buildings from that era never look good. Either pull it down or at least spend a massive amount (more than mentioned) on making it top quality again otherwise it will fail. Who wants to go to an old Victorian dump for a swim.

Dr.Draconian says...
6:08pm Fri 14 Sep 12

They should have let Butlins take over the place 50 years ago, probably didn't want council estate types ruining the ambience.....
Fill in the pools & put a Starbucks inside!

lillylou says...
6:42pm Sat 15 Sep 12

Look are you born n bred brightonions cos I as a kid was down that lido everyday when they had that slide it was packed we still had crap summers and back then saltdean was out of town ,this is about laziness to keep the place clean,I was there 2 years ago and there was fox mess on the area by the cafe and they just left it , king Alfred an I feel grade II listed pool is gona go ,again fantastic a slide ,bridge a great shape but no they wanna destroy it STOP WRECKING WATS GOOD COUNCIL DO YOU HATE KIDS !!!

Dr.Draconian says...
10:58am Sun 16 Sep 12

Can anyone translate that?

Terry K says...
12:18pm Sun 16 Sep 12

It is hard to know what to do with it, a retractable roof could mean all year use, or an outdoor skating rink in the winter months could be useful. Arundel lido is very successful and shows there is a demand for a lido in Sussex, i think muiltiple use is the best bet, internally it could a entertainment venue, live music, comedy venue etc, subsiding any low lido income, externally an open air lido and winter skating rink might work, but the conversions costs may be unviable, a headache for the council for sure.

rolivan says...
12:53pm Sun 16 Sep 12

It is quite simple what is required.All they need to do is use the existing pool for outdoors and build a new bigger Indoor Complex alongside with the 2 Pools connecting like they do at the Triangle.The only problem is that the Council would rather spend vast amounts of money on things other than Health and Education.The people of Brighton and Hove need to fight for their rights not continue with the I am alright Jack attitude.It is time you all marched on the Council and said "We are not putting up with this anymore" If you can't do that phone your councillors and MPs or write.

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