Brighton and Hove car wash boss 'victimised' by council

A car wash entrepreneur says Brighton and Hove City Council is victimising him because his family has spoken out over its car parking charges.

Robbie Raggio this week lost an appeal against council enforcement action ordering him to close a car repair workshop in Hove.

He claims his family’s stance on rises in city centre parking charges has turned the council against him.

Mr Raggio, of R&G Developments, is best known for running the car wash at Hove railway station.

He told The Argus he opened a car repair business in Cowper Street about three years ago.

There was existing permission for him to use the site for valeting cars because that was classed as “light industrial”.

"Planning regulations on business premises are in place to protect against over-development and to preserve the quality of life for residents."

Councillor Christopher Hawtree, chairman of the city council planning committee

Last year the council issued an order telling him to stop the repair business because it is a different category of work – “general industrial”.

It said the work would involve noisy machinery and work.

Mr Raggio appealed against the ban but the Planning Inspectorate this week upheld the notice.

Coun Christopher Hawtree, chair of the city council’s planning committee, said: “Whilst it is heartening to see businesses expanding in the city, changing from light to general industrial almost certainly involves moving to more suitable premises.

“Planning regulations on business premises are in place to protect against over-development and to preserve the quality of life of residents.

"This council is keen to support employment potential alongside housing but we must ensure that residents’ peace is not disturbed.”

Parking protest

Mr Raggio’s son Elliott spearheads the group Traders Need Transport, which has campaigned to reverse council policy on raising on-street parking fees.

Mr Raggio said: “This is victimisation. It is ridiculous. The guys there are employing staff locally. The council are stopping it. It is supposed to be a council supporting employment. They are kicking us all the time.”

He said there are three mechanics working at the site, and that they had not received any complaints about noise.

It is understood he now intends to apply for planning permission to change the permitted use of the site. He said he is taking legal advice over whether he can keep the garage open.

Mr Raggio said he would not allow the decision to spoil his 52nd birthday today (September 14).

In response to his comments, a council spokeswoman said: “A government inspector agreed with the council’s decision, clearly showing that we were right in taking this action to protect the quality of life of residents living near the premises.

“Any trader who changes the nature of his business without gaining the relevant planning permission is likely to be served with an enforcement notice.

“A simple phone call to the council’s planning department would have established that, in this case, permission for change of use was required.”

Comments(26)

Surely not! says...
2:50pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Stop whining Robbie. You were just trying to bend the rules and you got caught. You might have tried applying for permission in the first place or was that to easy?

Archie Bun says...
3:16pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Horrible little man. No doubt if someone had complained he would have threatened them.

Nathan_Adler says...
3:28pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Is this the same man who pays his army of car washers barely more than the minimum wage whilst driving about in a hideous black Ferrari spouting how much he does for charity?

If so, stop whining and enjoy the fruits of your (cough cough) investments.

made up says...
4:01pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Why should he get an unfair advantage over his competitors? Just apply or the change of use and if the residents don't have any issues (as stated) then I doubt there will be any problems.

@TheArgus - What relevance is the fact it's his birthday? Mines on Jan 9th if you fancy giving me a shout.

bug eye says...
4:21pm Thu 13 Sep 12

the planning inspector may disagree with the council but can only base their opinion on the councils outdated planning policies. anyone who has had the displeasure of working with the planning department would understand how outdated, bureaucratic and obstructive jobsworths. local garages are apparent all over the country in residential areas and if he employs 3 mechanics there is obviously a need for it. the council should get its own house in order, that is 'our city', and order a revamp of our paving, road surfaces, lighting, seating and planting, if you are ordering residents to smarten up their premises, do the same with our city.

bug eye says...
4:21pm Thu 13 Sep 12

the planning inspector may disagree with the council but can only base their opinion on the councils outdated planning policies. anyone who has had the displeasure of working with the planning department would understand how outdated, bureaucratic and obstructive jobsworths. local garages are apparent all over the country in residential areas and if he employs 3 mechanics there is obviously a need for it. the council should get its own house in order, that is 'our city', and order a revamp of our paving, road surfaces, lighting, seating and planting, if you are ordering residents to smarten up their premises, do the same with our city.

graham_Seagull says...
4:30pm Thu 13 Sep 12

bug eye wrote:
the planning inspector may disagree with the council but can only base their opinion on the councils outdated planning policies. anyone who has had the displeasure of working with the planning department would understand how outdated, bureaucratic and obstructive jobsworths. local garages are apparent all over the country in residential areas and if he employs 3 mechanics there is obviously a need for it. the council should get its own house in order, that is 'our city', and order a revamp of our paving, road surfaces, lighting, seating and planting, if you are ordering residents to smarten up their premises, do the same with our city.
the premises had permission for valeting.

he didnt apply to change the permission status to enable car repair which can be a noisy business and remember, its in the midst of terraced housing so noise would be an issue.

if he wants to open a car repair business then select the right premises just like anyone else would have to!

born n breed says...
4:44pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Tinfoil hat!

gusset snatcher says...
5:16pm Thu 13 Sep 12

We represent the Lullaby League, The Lullaby League, The Lullaby League
And in the name of the Lullaby League,
We wish to welcome you to Munchkinland.
We represent the Lollypop Guild, The Lollypop Guild, The Lollypop Guild
And in the name of the Lollypop Guild,
We wish to welcome you to Muchkinland.
We welcome you to Munchkinland, Tra la la la la la la
From now on you'll be history.
You'll be history, you'll be history, you'll be history.
And we will glorify your name.
You will be a bust, be a bust, be a bust
In the Hall of Fame!

PorkBoat says...
5:23pm Thu 13 Sep 12

I had my van cleaned at his hand car wash place by Hove station. It were s****e.

qm says...
7:39pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Haven't a clue what 'gusset snatcher' is on about but totally agree!! :))

Maxwell's Ghost says...
7:46pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Brighton and Hove is full of old style traders like Raggio who years ago would have got away with rule bending but things have moved on.
Watching some of the city's old traders is like watchig re runs of Minder.

nocando says...
8:37pm Thu 13 Sep 12

episodes like this perfectly sum up what's going wrong with this flaming country. Too many politicians and officials trying to make themselves look busy, making big speeches about getting the economy moving and then diverting scarce resources paying other people to go round shutting business down because they haven't ticked enough boxes. For the sake of our livelihoods, how the hell do we get rid of half these overpaid and unnecessary officials?
Let me give you another example. A well known, innovative local company employing a large number of people on a wage scale dependant on skill but providing opportunities to progress had to close down its Newhaven operation this year.Nothing to do with the economy but the relevant quango turning up, keeping itself busy inventing new rules to force on them and essentially killing the business off. The gaffer had no choice, a whole load got laid off with no notice.This is in newhaven where other government branches and the council are scratching around desperate to attract business and jobs to the area and throwing poxy supermarket ideas around while the unaccountable taxpayer funded quangos go charging round like loose cannons closing down existing profitable businesses. Its completely absurd. Why the hell do we as taxpayers fund the salaries and pensions of officials whose job it is to go round trying to make life as difficult as possible for those who ultimately generate the income. And then get accused of moral repugnancy for trying to withhold some of the funding.
Its about time the working public were given a vote on the auditing, that'd get people in the poll stations quick enough. Those responsible for spunking it would have to justify their existence like the rest of us do daily. We'd get better value for our money that way.

Dealing with idiots says...
8:40pm Thu 13 Sep 12

gusset snatcher wrote:
We represent the Lullaby League, The Lullaby League, The Lullaby League And in the name of the Lullaby League, We wish to welcome you to Munchkinland. We represent the Lollypop Guild, The Lollypop Guild, The Lollypop Guild And in the name of the Lollypop Guild, We wish to welcome you to Muchkinland. We welcome you to Munchkinland, Tra la la la la la la From now on you'll be history. You'll be history, you'll be history, you'll be history. And we will glorify your name. You will be a bust, be a bust, be a bust In the Hall of Fame!
Nurse, nurse, he's out of bed again!

michael505 says...
8:45pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Nice to see someone else knows him. Nasty little man. About time someone said no to him.

graham_Seagull says...
9:18pm Thu 13 Sep 12

nocando wrote:
episodes like this perfectly sum up what's going wrong with this flaming country. Too many politicians and officials trying to make themselves look busy, making big speeches about getting the economy moving and then diverting scarce resources paying other people to go round shutting business down because they haven't ticked enough boxes. For the sake of our livelihoods, how the hell do we get rid of half these overpaid and unnecessary officials?
Let me give you another example. A well known, innovative local company employing a large number of people on a wage scale dependant on skill but providing opportunities to progress had to close down its Newhaven operation this year.Nothing to do with the economy but the relevant quango turning up, keeping itself busy inventing new rules to force on them and essentially killing the business off. The gaffer had no choice, a whole load got laid off with no notice.This is in newhaven where other government branches and the council are scratching around desperate to attract business and jobs to the area and throwing poxy supermarket ideas around while the unaccountable taxpayer funded quangos go charging round like loose cannons closing down existing profitable businesses. Its completely absurd. Why the hell do we as taxpayers fund the salaries and pensions of officials whose job it is to go round trying to make life as difficult as possible for those who ultimately generate the income. And then get accused of moral repugnancy for trying to withhold some of the funding.
Its about time the working public were given a vote on the auditing, that'd get people in the poll stations quick enough. Those responsible for spunking it would have to justify their existence like the rest of us do daily. We'd get better value for our money that way.
Whats that to do withthe story?

Crystal Ball says...
8:53am Fri 14 Sep 12

made up wrote:
Why should he get an unfair advantage over his competitors? Just apply or the change of use and if the residents don't have any issues (as stated) then I doubt there will be any problems.

@TheArgus - What relevance is the fact it's his birthday? Mines on Jan 9th if you fancy giving me a shout.
To gain some 'sympathy' from the public? Otherwise, who would give the tinniest hoot what day it is in relation to this goon?

Cash Cow says...
9:38am Fri 14 Sep 12

graham_Seagull wrote:
nocando wrote:
episodes like this perfectly sum up what's going wrong with this flaming country. Too many politicians and officials trying to make themselves look busy, making big speeches about getting the economy moving and then diverting scarce resources paying other people to go round shutting business down because they haven't ticked enough boxes. For the sake of our livelihoods, how the hell do we get rid of half these overpaid and unnecessary officials?
Let me give you another example. A well known, innovative local company employing a large number of people on a wage scale dependant on skill but providing opportunities to progress had to close down its Newhaven operation this year.Nothing to do with the economy but the relevant quango turning up, keeping itself busy inventing new rules to force on them and essentially killing the business off. The gaffer had no choice, a whole load got laid off with no notice.This is in newhaven where other government branches and the council are scratching around desperate to attract business and jobs to the area and throwing poxy supermarket ideas around while the unaccountable taxpayer funded quangos go charging round like loose cannons closing down existing profitable businesses. Its completely absurd. Why the hell do we as taxpayers fund the salaries and pensions of officials whose job it is to go round trying to make life as difficult as possible for those who ultimately generate the income. And then get accused of moral repugnancy for trying to withhold some of the funding.
Its about time the working public were given a vote on the auditing, that'd get people in the poll stations quick enough. Those responsible for spunking it would have to justify their existence like the rest of us do daily. We'd get better value for our money that way.
Whats that to do withthe story?
It has everthing to do with the news story and I agree with what Nocando is saying.

therat says...
9:43am Fri 14 Sep 12

JEALOUSY JEALOUSY JEALOUSY ! ! ! ! !! ! ! !!!!!!!!

gusset snatcher says...
10:29am Fri 14 Sep 12

therat wrote:
JEALOUSY JEALOUSY JEALOUSY ! ! ! ! !! ! ! !!!!!!!!
lol..... I'm jealous of the Munchkin and want to go to Munchkinland aka top of Woodbourne Ave

gusset snatcher says...
10:33am Fri 14 Sep 12

gusset snatcher wrote:
therat wrote:
JEALOUSY JEALOUSY JEALOUSY ! ! ! ! !! ! ! !!!!!!!!
lol..... I'm jealous of the Munchkin and want to go to Munchkinland aka top of Woodbourne Ave
Woodland Drive I meant

deanaprior says...
11:03am Fri 14 Sep 12

All the car wash guys seem to be self employed Lithuanians.

davyboy says...
9:32pm Fri 14 Sep 12

never liked the bloke, always has cars blocking the road at hove station, and thinks he can do as he pleases. as others say, its about time someone official stood up to him

F in L says...
11:07pm Sat 15 Sep 12

deanaprior wrote:
All the car wash guys seem to be self employed Lithuanians.
You have never obviously used the Car wash. NONE are Lithuanians, although I believe one is an Anglican and two are Catholic.
I love having my car washed by those good looking fit boys. It is like Debbie Does Dallas for us Gay Guys, loads of them are cute too! (Love the two blonde ones!...one wears a bumbag!) I recommend them ...and from the long queues, lots of others do.... I have a couple of them round to my place on a Sunday evening to give my Jalopy a wash and apply some spit and polish to the old bodywork. More power to you BOYS! xxx

F in L says...
12:16am Mon 17 Sep 12

Well, I had a couple of the boys around this evening for my usual wash and leather... and they feel they are being dragged into something that is NOTHING to do with them... The car repair company..... Cut and Shut or whatever is nothing to do with the Car Wash!
I recommend Hove Car Wash 100% AND not just for cars.....I ride Motorcycles and the Blonde hunk also polishes my Helmet for £20

therat says...
8:30am Mon 17 Sep 12

F in L
You are very very funny please please keep it up ! ! I know the boys at the wash think its GREAT !
WELL DONE

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