Positive signs in city's long battle against drugs

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It is an issue that affects nearly 1,300 people and costs Brighton and Hove more than £27 million.

But why has Brighton and Hove had the ‘drugs death capital of the country’ tag and what can be done to stop young people from turning to them?

This was the focus of the new Brighton and Hove Drugs Commission.

Crime writer Peter James was chairman of the panel, which also included Rick Cook, of Mind in Brighton and Hove, and Harry Shapiro of charity Drugscope.

Young people were invited to the American Express Community Stadium at Falmer to ask questions Drugs Commission spokesman Mike Trace, a former national “drugs tsar, said: “Brighton and Hove has had problems with drug use for decades and in the past has been dubbed the drugs death capital of the UK, but the city is pioneering new services that are starting to show promising results.

“Current treatment services in the city run by Brighton and Hove City Council, the NHS and other partners have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway that’s helping more people come off drugs.

“But this commission looked at ways to address the remaining challenges to ensure the city is working in the most effective way.”

Brighton and Hove City Council said a total of 520 habitual offenders have been referred through Operation Reduction for treatment in seven years.

About 21,000 crimes have been committed and dealing with them has cost more than £27 million.

In November the Commission aims to submit a draft report to look at ways to improve the situation.

A council spokesman said: “For every £1 spent on drug treatment, £3 is saved through a reduction in crime.

“We need to understand people’s needs and motivations if we are to understand substance misuse and deliver better and more appropriate services. 

"Our treatment service is not failing. In fact an overhaul of substance misuse services in Brighton and Hove has seen the city record impressive early results in its drive to reduce drug-related deaths and improve treatment outcomes.

“The number of people coming off drugs through the city’s treatment services rose from 127 during 2010 compared to 170 last year.

“In addition, the city has a good record in taking measures to tackle drug-related deaths, which appear to have fallen in recent years.”

Earlier this year comedian and film star Russell Brand filmed part of a TV documentary in Brighton which looked at how the city was dealing with drug addicts.

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5:07pm Wed 3 Oct 12

F in L says...

A council spokesman said: “For every £1 spent on drug treatment, £3 is saved through a reduction in crime.

“We need to understand people’s needs and motivations if we are to understand substance misuse and deliver better and more appropriate services.

"Our treatment service is not failing. In fact an overhaul of substance misuse services in Brighton and Hove has seen the city record impressive early results in its drive to reduce drug-related deaths and improve treatment outcomes.

“The number of people coming off drugs through the city’s treatment services rose from 127 during 2010 compared to 170 last year.

“In addition, the city has a good record in taking measures to tackle drug-related deaths, which appear to have fallen in recent years.”


BUT WE ARE STILL THE DRUG DEATH CAPITAL.......
A council spokesman said: “For every £1 spent on drug treatment, £3 is saved through a reduction in crime. “We need to understand people’s needs and motivations if we are to understand substance misuse and deliver better and more appropriate services. "Our treatment service is not failing. In fact an overhaul of substance misuse services in Brighton and Hove has seen the city record impressive early results in its drive to reduce drug-related deaths and improve treatment outcomes. “The number of people coming off drugs through the city’s treatment services rose from 127 during 2010 compared to 170 last year. “In addition, the city has a good record in taking measures to tackle drug-related deaths, which appear to have fallen in recent years.” BUT WE ARE STILL THE DRUG DEATH CAPITAL....... F in L
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5:09pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Goldenwight says...

Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?
Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people. And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please? Goldenwight
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5:38pm Wed 3 Oct 12

rolivan says...

Goldenwight wrote:
Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?
If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.
[quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people. And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?[/p][/quote]If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent. rolivan
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6:26pm Wed 3 Oct 12

NickBrt says...

No comment from useless lucas, i thought she was going to sort this out last year?
No comment from useless lucas, i thought she was going to sort this out last year? NickBrt
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7:14pm Wed 3 Oct 12

John Fallon says...

Good report, Tim. It would help if the interviewees didn't speak in jargon but that's not your fault. I suspect even they couldn't define a "care pathway" in less that a full paragraph.
Good report, Tim. It would help if the interviewees didn't speak in jargon but that's not your fault. I suspect even they couldn't define a "care pathway" in less that a full paragraph. John Fallon
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7:16pm Wed 3 Oct 12

MrHove says...

I wonder how the alcohol stats would compare against the drug stats. Whilst I understand people on drugs commit crimes to fund their habbits it is widely missed that people who get "smashed" at a weekend drinking also cost the tax payer fortunes (more then the drug users)

I have no issue with Brighton being known as the Drug Death city, if anything its good news as hopefully it encourages people to stay away - also once their dead then thats the cost gone....
I wonder how the alcohol stats would compare against the drug stats. Whilst I understand people on drugs commit crimes to fund their habbits it is widely missed that people who get "smashed" at a weekend drinking also cost the tax payer fortunes (more then the drug users) I have no issue with Brighton being known as the Drug Death city, if anything its good news as hopefully it encourages people to stay away - also once their dead then thats the cost gone.... MrHove
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7:50pm Wed 3 Oct 12

HJarrs says...

NickBrt wrote:
No comment from useless lucas, i thought she was going to sort this out last year?
You missed out no comment from your useless Kirby, Weatherly, Baker etc.
[quote][p][bold]NickBrt[/bold] wrote: No comment from useless lucas, i thought she was going to sort this out last year?[/p][/quote]You missed out no comment from your useless Kirby, Weatherly, Baker etc. HJarrs
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8:27pm Wed 3 Oct 12

Morpheus says...

How do they know that 21,000 crimes are drug related?
How do they know that 21,000 crimes are drug related? Morpheus
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10:25pm Wed 3 Oct 12

NickBrt says...

Dear HJarrs (carolines bestest friend) but the other didn't promise to sort it out by legalisation.
Dear HJarrs (carolines bestest friend) but the other didn't promise to sort it out by legalisation. NickBrt
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11:14pm Wed 3 Oct 12

gnarlychaos says...

F in L wrote:
rolivan wrote:
Goldenwight wrote:
Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?
If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.
We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.
F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.
[quote][p][bold]F in L[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people. And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?[/p][/quote]If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.[/p][/quote]We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.[/p][/quote]F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views. gnarlychaos
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11:55pm Wed 3 Oct 12

AmboGuy says...

gnarlychaos wrote:
F in L wrote:
rolivan wrote:
Goldenwight wrote:
Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?
If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.
We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.
F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.
Oh for god sake F in L is the local Argus troll, he's just trying to get a reaction so just ignore him.
[quote][p][bold]gnarlychaos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]F in L[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people. And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?[/p][/quote]If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.[/p][/quote]We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.[/p][/quote]F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.[/p][/quote]Oh for god sake F in L is the local Argus troll, he's just trying to get a reaction so just ignore him. AmboGuy
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11:46am Thu 4 Oct 12

F in L says...

gnarlychaos wrote:
F in L wrote:
rolivan wrote:
Goldenwight wrote:
Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?
If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.
We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.
F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.
I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
[quote][p][bold]gnarlychaos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]F in L[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people. And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?[/p][/quote]If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.[/p][/quote]We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.[/p][/quote]F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.[/p][/quote]I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed man. F in L
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12:20pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Lofaplace says...

F in L wrote:
gnarlychaos wrote:
F in L wrote:
rolivan wrote:
Goldenwight wrote:
Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?
If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.
We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.
F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.
I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
1 in 20 gay men in the UK have HIV.
5%

This rises to 1 in 10 in London.....and
10%

1 in 8 in Brighton......
12.5% THAT is a BIG BIG Proportion of the Health resources in Brighton......



http://www.nat.org.u
k/gb.aspx


I am just saying, that's all...... Maybe they have a point...............
.......... It is certainly a valid argument.




P.S. ALL of you might like to think on the phrase.....

...."Violence is the last resort of the incompetent."
[quote][p][bold]F in L[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gnarlychaos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]F in L[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people. And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?[/p][/quote]If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.[/p][/quote]We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.[/p][/quote]F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.[/p][/quote]I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.[/p][/quote]1 in 20 gay men in the UK have HIV. 5% This rises to 1 in 10 in London.....and 10% 1 in 8 in Brighton...... 12.5% THAT is a BIG BIG Proportion of the Health resources in Brighton...... http://www.nat.org.u k/gb.aspx I am just saying, that's all...... Maybe they have a point............... .......... It is certainly a valid argument. P.S. ALL of you might like to think on the phrase..... ...."Violence is the last resort of the incompetent." Lofaplace
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1:56pm Thu 4 Oct 12

F in L says...

Lofaplace wrote:
F in L wrote:
gnarlychaos wrote:
F in L wrote:
rolivan wrote:
Goldenwight wrote:
Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?
If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.
We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.
F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.
I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
1 in 20 gay men in the UK have HIV.
5%

This rises to 1 in 10 in London.....and
10%

1 in 8 in Brighton......
12.5% THAT is a BIG BIG Proportion of the Health resources in Brighton......



http://www.nat.org.u

k/gb.aspx


I am just saying, that's all...... Maybe they have a point...............

.......... It is certainly a valid argument.




P.S. ALL of you might like to think on the phrase.....

...."Violence is the last resort of the incompetent."
I am not entering into any fisticuffs with anyone, particularly of the persuasion of gnarlychaos, unless they have taken a blood test!
[quote][p][bold]Lofaplace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]F in L[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gnarlychaos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]F in L[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people. And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?[/p][/quote]If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.[/p][/quote]We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.[/p][/quote]F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.[/p][/quote]I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.[/p][/quote]1 in 20 gay men in the UK have HIV. 5% This rises to 1 in 10 in London.....and 10% 1 in 8 in Brighton...... 12.5% THAT is a BIG BIG Proportion of the Health resources in Brighton...... http://www.nat.org.u k/gb.aspx I am just saying, that's all...... Maybe they have a point............... .......... It is certainly a valid argument. P.S. ALL of you might like to think on the phrase..... ...."Violence is the last resort of the incompetent."[/p][/quote]I am not entering into any fisticuffs with anyone, particularly of the persuasion of gnarlychaos, unless they have taken a blood test! F in L
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3:39pm Thu 4 Oct 12

AmboGuy says...

F in L wrote:
gnarlychaos wrote:
F in L wrote:
rolivan wrote:
Goldenwight wrote:
Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?
If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.
We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.
F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.
I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Yes you've been using that saying way back from when you posted under the name Sparky (before you got in a huff and changed it). It wasn't funny or clever back then either.
[quote][p][bold]F in L[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gnarlychaos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]F in L[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people. And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?[/p][/quote]If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.[/p][/quote]We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.[/p][/quote]F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.[/p][/quote]I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.[/p][/quote]Yes you've been using that saying way back from when you posted under the name Sparky (before you got in a huff and changed it). It wasn't funny or clever back then either. AmboGuy
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4:32pm Thu 4 Oct 12

F in L says...

AmboGuy wrote:
F in L wrote:
gnarlychaos wrote:
F in L wrote:
rolivan wrote:
Goldenwight wrote:
Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?
If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.
We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.
F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.
I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.
Yes you've been using that saying way back from when you posted under the name Sparky (before you got in a huff and changed it). It wasn't funny or clever back then either.
Another insightful .....yet somehow irrelevant and totally useless comment from the 'Ol Urine Smelling Cabbie!'
[quote][p][bold]AmboGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]F in L[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gnarlychaos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]F in L[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rolivan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goldenwight[/bold] wrote: Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people. And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?[/p][/quote]If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.[/p][/quote]We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.[/p][/quote]F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.[/p][/quote]I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.[/p][/quote]Yes you've been using that saying way back from when you posted under the name Sparky (before you got in a huff and changed it). It wasn't funny or clever back then either.[/p][/quote]Another insightful .....yet somehow irrelevant and totally useless comment from the 'Ol Urine Smelling Cabbie!' F in L
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