Positive signs in city's long battle against drugs (From The Argus)

A council spokesman said: “For every £1 spent on drug treatment, £3 is saved through a reduction in crime.

“We need to understand people’s needs and motivations if we are to understand substance misuse and deliver better and more appropriate services.

"Our treatment service is not failing. In fact an overhaul of substance misuse services in Brighton and Hove has seen the city record impressive early results in its drive to reduce drug-related deaths and improve treatment outcomes.

“The number of people coming off drugs through the city’s treatment services rose from 127 during 2010 compared to 170 last year.

“In addition, the city has a good record in taking measures to tackle drug-related deaths, which appear to have fallen in recent years.”


BUT WE ARE STILL THE DRUG DEATH CAPITAL.......

Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?

Goldenwight wrote:
Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?

If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.

No comment from useless lucas, i thought she was going to sort this out last year?

Good report, Tim. It would help if the interviewees didn't speak in jargon but that's not your fault. I suspect even they couldn't define a "care pathway" in less that a full paragraph.

I wonder how the alcohol stats would compare against the drug stats. Whilst I understand people on drugs commit crimes to fund their habbits it is widely missed that people who get "smashed" at a weekend drinking also cost the tax payer fortunes (more then the drug users)

I have no issue with Brighton being known as the Drug Death city, if anything its good news as hopefully it encourages people to stay away - also once their dead then thats the cost gone....

NickBrt wrote:
No comment from useless lucas, i thought she was going to sort this out last year?

You missed out no comment from your useless Kirby, Weatherly, Baker etc.

How do they know that 21,000 crimes are drug related?

Dear HJarrs (carolines bestest friend) but the other didn't promise to sort it out by legalisation.

F in L wrote:

rolivan wrote:

Goldenwight wrote:
Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?

If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.

We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.

F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.

gnarlychaos wrote:

F in L wrote:

rolivan wrote:

Goldenwight wrote:
Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?

If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.

We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.

F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.

Oh for god sake F in L is the local Argus troll, he's just trying to get a reaction so just ignore him.

gnarlychaos wrote:

F in L wrote:

rolivan wrote:

Goldenwight wrote:
Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?

If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.

We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.

F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.

I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

F in L wrote:

gnarlychaos wrote:

F in L wrote:

rolivan wrote:

Goldenwight wrote:
Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?

If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.

We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.

F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.

I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

1 in 20 gay men in the UK have HIV.
5%

This rises to 1 in 10 in London.....and
10%

1 in 8 in Brighton......
12.5% THAT is a BIG BIG Proportion of the Health resources in Brighton......



http://www.nat.org.u
k/gb.aspx


I am just saying, that's all...... Maybe they have a point...............
.......... It is certainly a valid argument.




P.S. ALL of you might like to think on the phrase.....

...."Violence is the last resort of the incompetent."

Lofaplace wrote:

F in L wrote:

gnarlychaos wrote:

F in L wrote:

rolivan wrote:

Goldenwight wrote:
Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?

If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.

We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.

F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.

I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

1 in 20 gay men in the UK have HIV.
5%

This rises to 1 in 10 in London.....and
10%

1 in 8 in Brighton......
12.5% THAT is a BIG BIG Proportion of the Health resources in Brighton......



http://www.nat.org.u

k/gb.aspx


I am just saying, that's all...... Maybe they have a point...............

.......... It is certainly a valid argument.




P.S. ALL of you might like to think on the phrase.....

...."Violence is the last resort of the incompetent."

I am not entering into any fisticuffs with anyone, particularly of the persuasion of gnarlychaos, unless they have taken a blood test!

F in L wrote:

gnarlychaos wrote:

F in L wrote:

rolivan wrote:

Goldenwight wrote:
Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?

If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.

We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.

F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.

I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

Yes you've been using that saying way back from when you posted under the name Sparky (before you got in a huff and changed it). It wasn't funny or clever back then either.

AmboGuy wrote:

F in L wrote:

gnarlychaos wrote:

F in L wrote:

rolivan wrote:

Goldenwight wrote:
Unless these 21,000 crimes have been committed against a very small number of victims, the problem is affecting far more than 1,300 people.

And what does 'Treatment Services...have taken a cultural shift through a care pathway' actually mean in English, please?

If drug users come to Brighton and Hove from other Cities and Towns,those places should be footing the bill not Brighton and Hove.That would probably cut the bill by90percent.

We already have the vast majority of HIV Aids sufferers coming here because of the expertise, healthcare and infrastructure. We foot the bill for that too.

F in L You Truly are a piece of **** and Rolivan a total tosspot, I.d like to meet you both face to face then we could exchange are views.

I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

Yes you've been using that saying way back from when you posted under the name Sparky (before you got in a huff and changed it). It wasn't funny or clever back then either.

Another insightful .....yet somehow irrelevant and totally useless comment from the 'Ol Urine Smelling Cabbie!'