SodaStream boss 'won’t give way' to Brighton protesters (From The Argus)
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SodaStream boss 'won’t give way' to Brighton protesters
2:40pm Friday 12th October 2012 in News By John Keenan, business editor
The boss of a controversial drinks company has vowed not to give in to demands to close a store.
Daniel Birnbaum, CEO of SodaStream, said the firm will take legal action to clear protesters from the front of its EcoStream store in Western Road, Brighton.
Protesters and counter-protesters have gathered outside the shop on Saturday afternoons over the site of the SodaStream’s factory in an area which Palestinians claim is occupied by Israel.
The firm has two other factories in Israel and is building a huge facility in the south of the country.
He told The Argus: “We are in Brighton to stay. The protesters have a right to make their point but our customers have a right to use the shop.
"We are prepared to go to court if necessary to stop the intimidation of our staff and customers.
"Neither will we close our production facility in Mishor Adumim. More than half of the workforce at this factory are Palestinians.
"They earn above average salaries and support their families. I will not sacrifice their jobs.”
He called for Green MP Caroline Lucas, whose Brighton Pavilion constituency includes the Sodastream outlet, to visit the company’s factories and talk with Palestinian workers.
Ms Lucas said: “The retail sector is a key part of our local economy and I am keen to ensure that green businesses in particular are welcomed to the city – so while I don’t support calls for the EcoStream store to close, I do think it’s right that local people are able to take a principled stand about the fact that Sodastream and its parent company Soda-Club operate out of an illegal Israeli settlement.
“A number of constituents have contacted me to express support for the protests at the EcoStream store and it’s my view that those people have a right to demonstrate peacefully in the hope of persuading the company to think about moving their manufacturing plant elsewhere.”
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Comments(72)
spa301
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2:52pm Fri 12 Oct 12
Cue another avalanche of abusive emails from both sides of this intractable debate.
We in the middle hold our heads in our hands and despair.....
We in the middle hold our heads in our hands and despair.....
Sam-by-the-sea
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2:55pm Fri 12 Oct 12
This does seem like an odd target - of all the companies that have questionable practises, is this one to disrupt Western over? What about the Arcadia group, Esso or BP?
Hoarder12345444
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3:05pm Fri 12 Oct 12
BornInBrighton1968 wrote:Yes exactly!!!
Excellent; act like a man Mr. Birnbaum and stand your ground.
99% of Brighton residents support you; it is only the politically-correct, bleeding-heart, Marxist panty wetters who oppose you, and they would be better off going out and getting jobs.
talbot
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3:45pm Fri 12 Oct 12
please this unpleasant shop is a joke move out of brighton yours HASSAN IN TURKIYE
Crystal Ball
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3:52pm Fri 12 Oct 12
Sam-by-the-sea wrote:The protesters rarely need anything than a vague 'justification' to target a company/premises.
This does seem like an odd target - of all the companies that have questionable practises, is this one to disrupt Western over? What about the Arcadia group, Esso or BP?
Perhaps they could target the Job Centre...
Goyboy
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4:07pm Fri 12 Oct 12
spa301 wrote:I can understand how this sort of debate looks from time to time, with various people slagging each other off and trying to put each other down...I agree it isn't helpful.
Cue another avalanche of abusive emails from both sides of this intractable debate.
We in the middle hold our heads in our hands and despair.....
What is needed is a constant flow of truthful statements that force people that are interested to sit up and take notice....but it is very difficult sometimes to sort out fact from fiction, and lies are often hidden under some very persuasive half-truths.
From my perspective Ecostream has every right to be in Brighton, the local people and those that represent the people should actually make them welcome. It is ironic that they chose Brighton to open their first shop because of its 'Green' credentials, but are actually opposed by default because of what amounts to nothing more than Palestinian propaganda reaching out and garnering support from gullible Westerners under the guise of human rights isssues.
What Ecostream have actually done in the area of Ma'ale Adumim is bring a modicum of prosperity and stability to the region, and 500 Palestinians and their families reap the benefit...I would really hope Green MP Caroline Lucas takes up the challenge and goes out to see the factory for herself, and then perhaps she will realise there is a bigger picture that is being obscured by political activists (for want of a better word).
Nathan_Adler
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4:28pm Fri 12 Oct 12
Dear Protesters.
Get a life. Get a job and stop being so ruddy pointless in your pathetic lives.
Regards
Nathan Adler.
Get a life. Get a job and stop being so ruddy pointless in your pathetic lives.
Regards
Nathan Adler.
gaz scott
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5:09pm Fri 12 Oct 12
Goyboy wrote:The UN, International Court of Justice as well as the International Community consider these settlements illegal. I don't see how any number of visits can change this fact.
spa301 wrote:I can understand how this sort of debate looks from time to time, with various people slagging each other off and trying to put each other down...I agree it isn't helpful.
Cue another avalanche of abusive emails from both sides of this intractable debate.
We in the middle hold our heads in our hands and despair.....
What is needed is a constant flow of truthful statements that force people that are interested to sit up and take notice....but it is very difficult sometimes to sort out fact from fiction, and lies are often hidden under some very persuasive half-truths.
From my perspective Ecostream has every right to be in Brighton, the local people and those that represent the people should actually make them welcome. It is ironic that they chose Brighton to open their first shop because of its 'Green' credentials, but are actually opposed by default because of what amounts to nothing more than Palestinian propaganda reaching out and garnering support from gullible Westerners under the guise of human rights isssues.
What Ecostream have actually done in the area of Ma'ale Adumim is bring a modicum of prosperity and stability to the region, and 500 Palestinians and their families reap the benefit...I would really hope Green MP Caroline Lucas takes up the challenge and goes out to see the factory for herself, and then perhaps she will realise there is a bigger picture that is being obscured by political activists (for want of a better word).
spa301
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5:11pm Fri 12 Oct 12
Goyboy wrote:If more people spoke as calmly and intelligently as you do then perhaps, just perhaps we all might move forward, however slowly.
spa301 wrote: Cue another avalanche of abusive emails from both sides of this intractable debate. We in the middle hold our heads in our hands and despair.....I can understand how this sort of debate looks from time to time, with various people slagging each other off and trying to put each other down...I agree it isn't helpful. What is needed is a constant flow of truthful statements that force people that are interested to sit up and take notice....but it is very difficult sometimes to sort out fact from fiction, and lies are often hidden under some very persuasive half-truths. From my perspective Ecostream has every right to be in Brighton, the local people and those that represent the people should actually make them welcome. It is ironic that they chose Brighton to open their first shop because of its 'Green' credentials, but are actually opposed by default because of what amounts to nothing more than Palestinian propaganda reaching out and garnering support from gullible Westerners under the guise of human rights isssues. What Ecostream have actually done in the area of Ma'ale Adumim is bring a modicum of prosperity and stability to the region, and 500 Palestinians and their families reap the benefit...I would really hope Green MP Caroline Lucas takes up the challenge and goes out to see the factory for herself, and then perhaps she will realise there is a bigger picture that is being obscured by political activists (for want of a better word).
I fail to understand how all the insults and hysterical rants (produced by this ongoing story) can possibly be of any help to anyone. It just becomes a mindless ignorant babble that obscures the facts and further polarises the protagonists.
george smith
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5:14pm Fri 12 Oct 12
Goyboy wrote:Very true, she might also like to look at how some workers in the UK more or less work in slavery and that was supposed to be banned well over a century ago
spa301 wrote: Cue another avalanche of abusive emails from both sides of this intractable debate. We in the middle hold our heads in our hands and despair.....I can understand how this sort of debate looks from time to time, with various people slagging each other off and trying to put each other down...I agree it isn't helpful. What is needed is a constant flow of truthful statements that force people that are interested to sit up and take notice....but it is very difficult sometimes to sort out fact from fiction, and lies are often hidden under some very persuasive half-truths. From my perspective Ecostream has every right to be in Brighton, the local people and those that represent the people should actually make them welcome. It is ironic that they chose Brighton to open their first shop because of its 'Green' credentials, but are actually opposed by default because of what amounts to nothing more than Palestinian propaganda reaching out and garnering support from gullible Westerners under the guise of human rights isssues. What Ecostream have actually done in the area of Ma'ale Adumim is bring a modicum of prosperity and stability to the region, and 500 Palestinians and their families reap the benefit...I would really hope Green MP Caroline Lucas takes up the challenge and goes out to see the factory for herself, and then perhaps she will realise there is a bigger picture that is being obscured by political activists (for want of a better word).
gaz scott
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5:23pm Fri 12 Oct 12
In considering legal action to stop protests I think the company should look into some recent local history and see what happened when another local company EDO took legal action against protesters. Cost them well over £1 million and revitalised the campaign against them.
Bluebeef
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6:04pm Fri 12 Oct 12
They make soda water for goodness sake: go and protest outside an arms factory if you must
nocando
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6:15pm Fri 12 Oct 12
Lucas is the last person who should be harping on about illegal settlements. Since she's been around the rest of us haven't been able to move for tents, caravans and squatters.
OhComeOnPlease
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6:35pm Fri 12 Oct 12
The United Nations and the International Court of Justice have said that this settlement is illegal. That's a pretty powerful "illegal" and hardly "Palestinian propaganda.
The factory may employ Palestinians but it is still part of an occupying force. When a nation occupies another nation, it usually employs locals but that doesn't make its occupation right. And this factory may pay its employees more than they would otherwise earn but which nation is responsible for making Palestine something of a hell-hole with little opportunity for betterment?
Eco-stream has a right to trade. And the people of Brighton have a right to boycott it and demonstrate outside it. That is democracy, something sadly lacking in the occupied lands of Palestine.
The factory may employ Palestinians but it is still part of an occupying force. When a nation occupies another nation, it usually employs locals but that doesn't make its occupation right. And this factory may pay its employees more than they would otherwise earn but which nation is responsible for making Palestine something of a hell-hole with little opportunity for betterment?
Eco-stream has a right to trade. And the people of Brighton have a right to boycott it and demonstrate outside it. That is democracy, something sadly lacking in the occupied lands of Palestine.
gaz scott
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7:29pm Fri 12 Oct 12
It is slightly odd that boycott stalls have been taking place outside stores in town every single weekend for the last 10 years with very few problems. This particular company however seem to not understand the concept of democracy. Comes of spending too much time in occupied land maybe.
juleshove
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7:55pm Fri 12 Oct 12
From my perspective Ecostream has every right to be in Brighton, the local people and those that represent the people should actually make them welcome. It is ironic that they chose Brighton to open their first shop because of its 'Green' credentials, but are actually opposed by default because of what amounts to nothing more than Palestinian propaganda reaching out and garnering support from gullible Westerners under the guise of human rights isssues.
What Ecostream have actually done in the area of Ma'ale Adumim is bring a modicum of prosperity and stability to the region, and 500 Palestinians and their families reap the benefit...I would really hope Green MP Caroline Lucas takes up the challenge and goes out to see the factory for herself, and then perhaps she will realise there is a bigger picture that is being obscured by political activists (for want of a better word.
Very well put, i agree 100%.
Please can we make sure that Ms Lucas is booted out at the next election. PLEASE...
She is not a nice person and it has nothing to do with whether your Green, Labour, Liberal or Tory. . She is like a female George Galloway .Yuck..
What Ecostream have actually done in the area of Ma'ale Adumim is bring a modicum of prosperity and stability to the region, and 500 Palestinians and their families reap the benefit...I would really hope Green MP Caroline Lucas takes up the challenge and goes out to see the factory for herself, and then perhaps she will realise there is a bigger picture that is being obscured by political activists (for want of a better word.
Very well put, i agree 100%.
Please can we make sure that Ms Lucas is booted out at the next election. PLEASE...
She is not a nice person and it has nothing to do with whether your Green, Labour, Liberal or Tory. . She is like a female George Galloway .Yuck..
AmboGuy
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7:55pm Fri 12 Oct 12
I'd be very interested if anyone of the protesters against this store could come into this forum and state that they have actually been to see the disputed factory in Mishor Adumim and spoken to the locals. Not you though Gaz Scott as you've been caught out lying so many times before no one believes what you say anymore.
Anyone else though please let me know if this is the case.
Anyone else though please let me know if this is the case.
gaz scott
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8:12pm Fri 12 Oct 12
AmboGuy wrote:As I've said numerous times before it is you who have accused me of lying many times without actually providing a single proven instance. I'm still waiting for an example from you rather than the same old false accusation...
I'd be very interested if anyone of the protesters against this store could come into this forum and state that they have actually been to see the disputed factory in Mishor Adumim and spoken to the locals. Not you though Gaz Scott as you've been caught out lying so many times before no one believes what you say anymore.
Anyone else though please let me know if this is the case.
But as for whether I've been to the factory no I haven't but I know people who have and they too join the picket every Saturday.
I've never been to South Africa but I still boycotted South African goods to protest against Apartheid and do so again to protest against Apartheid. Being a black man I'm sure you must have too.
Somethingsarejustwrong
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8:38pm Fri 12 Oct 12
gaz scott wrote:How I laugh at the smoke and mirrors and selective memory and purpose that Gaz is happy to peddle.
AmboGuy wrote:As I've said numerous times before it is you who have accused me of lying many times without actually providing a single proven instance. I'm still waiting for an example from you rather than the same old false accusation...
I'd be very interested if anyone of the protesters against this store could come into this forum and state that they have actually been to see the disputed factory in Mishor Adumim and spoken to the locals. Not you though Gaz Scott as you've been caught out lying so many times before no one believes what you say anymore.
Anyone else though please let me know if this is the case.
But as for whether I've been to the factory no I haven't but I know people who have and they too join the picket every Saturday.
I've never been to South Africa but I still boycotted South African goods to protest against Apartheid and do so again to protest against Apartheid. Being a black man I'm sure you must have too.
I also laugh at his one dimensional and obsessive view supporting all things ludicrous and suggest a bi-polar disorder may be at the heart of the issue. That may explain how he postures his posts to push his ridiculous thoughts and why he can't deal with the truth.
I also know that he reports and gets posters blocked from the site at every opportunity; which in forum speak is absolute cowardice as it prevents the truth being told.
Bring on the benefit cuts and we'll soon have Gaz back living with mummy and daddy.
BeeJam
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8:38pm Fri 12 Oct 12
Hmmn. Soda stream/Isreali media action team not out in force on this comment thread are they by any chance? Lots of people who i've never seen post before agreeing with lots of other people i've never seen post before about how illegal occupation is actually a really brilliant thing for everyone.
Not fooling anyone, and in fact reinforcing many existing opinions. IMO.
Not fooling anyone, and in fact reinforcing many existing opinions. IMO.
Somethingsarejustwrong
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8:44pm Fri 12 Oct 12
BeeJam wrote:Could you tell us what you are actually trying to say please?
Hmmn. Soda stream/Isreali media action team not out in force on this comment thread are they by any chance? Lots of people who i've never seen post before agreeing with lots of other people i've never seen post before about how illegal occupation is actually a really brilliant thing for everyone.
Not fooling anyone, and in fact reinforcing many existing opinions. IMO.
gaz scott
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8:51pm Fri 12 Oct 12
SomethingsarejustwroI know English might not be your first language but you really have to try harder. Read it again and it might come to you.
ng wrote:
BeeJam wrote:Could you tell us what you are actually trying to say please?
Hmmn. Soda stream/Isreali media action team not out in force on this comment thread are they by any chance? Lots of people who i've never seen post before agreeing with lots of other people i've never seen post before about how illegal occupation is actually a really brilliant thing for everyone.
Not fooling anyone, and in fact reinforcing many existing opinions. IMO.
Don't worry I know it might be disheartening sometimes but persevere and one day you'll be reading and writing English like a native.
AmboGuy
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8:57pm Fri 12 Oct 12
gaz scott wrote:"Reading and writing English like a native'. Would you like to rephrase that Mr EDO.
SomethingsarejustwroI know English might not be your first language but you really have to try harder. Read it again and it might come to you.
ng wrote:
BeeJam wrote:Could you tell us what you are actually trying to say please?
Hmmn. Soda stream/Isreali media action team not out in force on this comment thread are they by any chance? Lots of people who i've never seen post before agreeing with lots of other people i've never seen post before about how illegal occupation is actually a really brilliant thing for everyone.
Not fooling anyone, and in fact reinforcing many existing opinions. IMO.
Don't worry I know it might be disheartening sometimes but persevere and one day you'll be reading and writing English like a native.
Somethingsarejustwrong
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8:57pm Fri 12 Oct 12
gaz scott wrote:Could you tell us what you are actually trying to say please?
SomethingsarejustwroI know English might not be your first language but you really have to try harder. Read it again and it might come to you.
ng wrote:
BeeJam wrote:Could you tell us what you are actually trying to say please?
Hmmn. Soda stream/Isreali media action team not out in force on this comment thread are they by any chance? Lots of people who i've never seen post before agreeing with lots of other people i've never seen post before about how illegal occupation is actually a really brilliant thing for everyone.
Not fooling anyone, and in fact reinforcing many existing opinions. IMO.
Don't worry I know it might be disheartening sometimes but persevere and one day you'll be reading and writing English like a native.
gaz scott
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9:00pm Fri 12 Oct 12
AmboGuy wrote:Why?
gaz scott wrote:"Reading and writing English like a native'. Would you like to rephrase that Mr EDO.
SomethingsarejustwroI know English might not be your first language but you really have to try harder. Read it again and it might come to you.
ng wrote:
BeeJam wrote:Could you tell us what you are actually trying to say please?
Hmmn. Soda stream/Isreali media action team not out in force on this comment thread are they by any chance? Lots of people who i've never seen post before agreeing with lots of other people i've never seen post before about how illegal occupation is actually a really brilliant thing for everyone.
Not fooling anyone, and in fact reinforcing many existing opinions. IMO.
Don't worry I know it might be disheartening sometimes but persevere and one day you'll be reading and writing English like a native.
Somethingsarejustwrong
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9:20pm Fri 12 Oct 12
gaz scott wrote:Do you still keep in touch with the other Occupy Brighton supporter?
AmboGuy wrote:Why?
gaz scott wrote:"Reading and writing English like a native'. Would you like to rephrase that Mr EDO.
SomethingsarejustwroI know English might not be your first language but you really have to try harder. Read it again and it might come to you.
ng wrote:
BeeJam wrote:Could you tell us what you are actually trying to say please?
Hmmn. Soda stream/Isreali media action team not out in force on this comment thread are they by any chance? Lots of people who i've never seen post before agreeing with lots of other people i've never seen post before about how illegal occupation is actually a really brilliant thing for everyone.
Not fooling anyone, and in fact reinforcing many existing opinions. IMO.
Don't worry I know it might be disheartening sometimes but persevere and one day you'll be reading and writing English like a native.
hursthill
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11:46pm Fri 12 Oct 12
Fact - Israel does NOT illegally occupy the West Bank. - It administers the West Bank, following the 6 day war in 1967, when Syria, Jordan & Egypt tried to destroy Israel .
The Palestinians now want the West Bank as their state -Something Israel accepts, but the Palestinians refuse to hold final peace negotiations.
When Israel withdrew from Gaza hamas took over & instead of say manufacturing & exporting soda drinks, chose to export rockets to Israel. 20,000 + have been fired at Israeli civilians in the last 3 years, using their own people as human shields, - launching rockets from schools & hospitals.
A 2 state solution is the only way to achieve peace, but Israel will not allow the West bank to become another apartheid entity , like Gaza, where the stated aim of hamas is to destroy Israel.
Israeli Arabs do not want to be ruled by hamas or fatah, who would deny them the equal democratic rights they have in Israel. That is why so many Israeli Arabs want to serve in the Israeli army. Other Arabs serve as senior judges & diplomats, as well as being elected MP's in Parliament.
Israel is an economic success story. We all use Israeli Intel components in our computers, Israeli drugs & medicines, mobile phones etc, even lucas & greenstein buy Israeli exports !
The Palestinians now want the West Bank as their state -Something Israel accepts, but the Palestinians refuse to hold final peace negotiations.
When Israel withdrew from Gaza hamas took over & instead of say manufacturing & exporting soda drinks, chose to export rockets to Israel. 20,000 + have been fired at Israeli civilians in the last 3 years, using their own people as human shields, - launching rockets from schools & hospitals.
A 2 state solution is the only way to achieve peace, but Israel will not allow the West bank to become another apartheid entity , like Gaza, where the stated aim of hamas is to destroy Israel.
Israeli Arabs do not want to be ruled by hamas or fatah, who would deny them the equal democratic rights they have in Israel. That is why so many Israeli Arabs want to serve in the Israeli army. Other Arabs serve as senior judges & diplomats, as well as being elected MP's in Parliament.
Israel is an economic success story. We all use Israeli Intel components in our computers, Israeli drugs & medicines, mobile phones etc, even lucas & greenstein buy Israeli exports !
Andy R
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11:52pm Fri 12 Oct 12
AmboGuy wrote:One doesn't need to visit the North Pole to know that it's bloody cold.
I'd be very interested if anyone of the protesters against this store could come into this forum and state that they have actually been to see the disputed factory in Mishor Adumim and spoken to the locals. Not you though Gaz Scott as you've been caught out lying so many times before no one believes what you say anymore.
Anyone else though please let me know if this is the case.
Ironic...the International Red Cross used to visit the concentration camps and what a fine benign show the Nazis would put on for them.
Andy R
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11:53pm Fri 12 Oct 12
nocando wrote:Funny...l've been able to move around fine. Are you sure you're not actually at Butlins in Bognor...?
Lucas is the last person who should be harping on about illegal settlements. Since she's been around the rest of us haven't been able to move for tents, caravans and squatters.
Capt. Sensiblé
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12:41am Sat 13 Oct 12
Have I read this right...people are actually protesting against SodaStream for having a factory in disputed lands? This is getting ridiculous, what a bunch of attention seeking tards. Where does it end?
gaz scott
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5:05am Sat 13 Oct 12
hursthill wrote:Typical obfuscation. If Israel accepts that the Palestinians want the West Bank as their state then why is it allowing - indeed encouraging with economic incentives - settlers and settlements? As another displaced population used to say "you speak with forked-tongue".
Fact - Israel does NOT illegally occupy the West Bank. - It administers the West Bank, following the 6 day war in 1967, when Syria, Jordan & Egypt tried to destroy Israel .
The Palestinians now want the West Bank as their state -Something Israel accepts, but the Palestinians refuse to hold final peace negotiations.
When Israel withdrew from Gaza hamas took over & instead of say manufacturing & exporting soda drinks, chose to export rockets to Israel. 20,000 + have been fired at Israeli civilians in the last 3 years, using their own people as human shields, - launching rockets from schools & hospitals.
A 2 state solution is the only way to achieve peace, but Israel will not allow the West bank to become another apartheid entity , like Gaza, where the stated aim of hamas is to destroy Israel.
Israeli Arabs do not want to be ruled by hamas or fatah, who would deny them the equal democratic rights they have in Israel. That is why so many Israeli Arabs want to serve in the Israeli army. Other Arabs serve as senior judges & diplomats, as well as being elected MP's in Parliament.
Israel is an economic success story. We all use Israeli Intel components in our computers, Israeli drugs & medicines, mobile phones etc, even lucas & greenstein buy Israeli exports !
People can choose AMD rather than Intel for their computer thus avoiding Intel as much as possible as I do. Not sure about mobile phones. Is it only Motorola? Maybe someone can assist me there. But true we can't always account for some of the goods we buy. But then who would approve of all the regimes who supply the petrol in their tanks - possibly including you.
Somethingsarejustwrong
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7:58am Sat 13 Oct 12
gaz scott wrote:I have heard a rumour that EDO may be using AMD chips in their computers.
hursthill wrote:Typical obfuscation. If Israel accepts that the Palestinians want the West Bank as their state then why is it allowing - indeed encouraging with economic incentives - settlers and settlements? As another displaced population used to say "you speak with forked-tongue".
Fact - Israel does NOT illegally occupy the West Bank. - It administers the West Bank, following the 6 day war in 1967, when Syria, Jordan & Egypt tried to destroy Israel .
The Palestinians now want the West Bank as their state -Something Israel accepts, but the Palestinians refuse to hold final peace negotiations.
When Israel withdrew from Gaza hamas took over & instead of say manufacturing & exporting soda drinks, chose to export rockets to Israel. 20,000 + have been fired at Israeli civilians in the last 3 years, using their own people as human shields, - launching rockets from schools & hospitals.
A 2 state solution is the only way to achieve peace, but Israel will not allow the West bank to become another apartheid entity , like Gaza, where the stated aim of hamas is to destroy Israel.
Israeli Arabs do not want to be ruled by hamas or fatah, who would deny them the equal democratic rights they have in Israel. That is why so many Israeli Arabs want to serve in the Israeli army. Other Arabs serve as senior judges & diplomats, as well as being elected MP's in Parliament.
Israel is an economic success story. We all use Israeli Intel components in our computers, Israeli drugs & medicines, mobile phones etc, even lucas & greenstein buy Israeli exports !
People can choose AMD rather than Intel for their computer thus avoiding Intel as much as possible as I do. Not sure about mobile phones. Is it only Motorola? Maybe someone can assist me there. But true we can't always account for some of the goods we buy. But then who would approve of all the regimes who supply the petrol in their tanks - possibly including you.
Given Gaz's supportive statement towards AMD that suggests that he is also supporting the manufacture of weapons of mass destruction (sic).
Perhaps the scruffy, disheveled miscreants that form the usual rent a mob should pile round to Gaz's mummy and daddy's mansion in middle England and begin one of their nonsensical protest actions.
Presume you will be there Gaz?
george smith
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8:32am Sat 13 Oct 12
SomethingsarejustwroDoes this mean Gaz will be very rich when his parents depart this mortal coil?
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:I have heard a rumour that EDO may be using AMD chips in their computers. Given Gaz's supportive statement towards AMD that suggests that he is also supporting the manufacture of weapons of mass destruction (sic). Perhaps the scruffy, disheveled miscreants that form the usual rent a mob should pile round to Gaz's mummy and daddy's mansion in middle England and begin one of their nonsensical protest actions. Presume you will be there Gaz?hursthill wrote: Fact - Israel does NOT illegally occupy the West Bank. - It administers the West Bank, following the 6 day war in 1967, when Syria, Jordan & Egypt tried to destroy Israel . The Palestinians now want the West Bank as their state -Something Israel accepts, but the Palestinians refuse to hold final peace negotiations. When Israel withdrew from Gaza hamas took over & instead of say manufacturing & exporting soda drinks, chose to export rockets to Israel. 20,000 + have been fired at Israeli civilians in the last 3 years, using their own people as human shields, - launching rockets from schools & hospitals. A 2 state solution is the only way to achieve peace, but Israel will not allow the West bank to become another apartheid entity , like Gaza, where the stated aim of hamas is to destroy Israel. Israeli Arabs do not want to be ruled by hamas or fatah, who would deny them the equal democratic rights they have in Israel. That is why so many Israeli Arabs want to serve in the Israeli army. Other Arabs serve as senior judges & diplomats, as well as being elected MP's in Parliament. Israel is an economic success story. We all use Israeli Intel components in our computers, Israeli drugs & medicines, mobile phones etc, even lucas & greenstein buy Israeli exports !Typical obfuscation. If Israel accepts that the Palestinians want the West Bank as their state then why is it allowing - indeed encouraging with economic incentives - settlers and settlements? As another displaced population used to say "you speak with forked-tongue". People can choose AMD rather than Intel for their computer thus avoiding Intel as much as possible as I do. Not sure about mobile phones. Is it only Motorola? Maybe someone can assist me there. But true we can't always account for some of the goods we buy. But then who would approve of all the regimes who supply the petrol in their tanks - possibly including you.
Will he be as rich as Caroline?
JHunty
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9:05am Sat 13 Oct 12
hursthill wrote:Fact Israel does illegally occupy Palestinian land,
Fact - Israel does NOT illegally occupy the West Bank. - It administers the West Bank, following the 6 day war in 1967, when Syria, Jordan & Egypt tried to destroy Israel .
The Palestinians now want the West Bank as their state -Something Israel accepts, but the Palestinians refuse to hold final peace negotiations.
When Israel withdrew from Gaza hamas took over & instead of say manufacturing & exporting soda drinks, chose to export rockets to Israel. 20,000 + have been fired at Israeli civilians in the last 3 years, using their own people as human shields, - launching rockets from schools & hospitals.
A 2 state solution is the only way to achieve peace, but Israel will not allow the West bank to become another apartheid entity , like Gaza, where the stated aim of hamas is to destroy Israel.
Israeli Arabs do not want to be ruled by hamas or fatah, who would deny them the equal democratic rights they have in Israel. That is why so many Israeli Arabs want to serve in the Israeli army. Other Arabs serve as senior judges & diplomats, as well as being elected MP's in Parliament.
Israel is an economic success story. We all use Israeli Intel components in our computers, Israeli drugs & medicines, mobile phones etc, even lucas & greenstein buy Israeli exports !
Fact Israel does illegally exploit the resources of that illegally occupied land.
Fact, if Israel has a right of self defence so do the Palestinians
I have always said that Smashedo have done more damage to the Palestinian cause by associating their brand of violent extremism with that cause, allowing Israels supporters to claim that all Palestinians and their supporters are violent extremists with whom negotiation is impossible and the recent threads on this issue have proved me right. I'm second to no one in opposing Gaz Scott and Andy Rs support for Smashedo and the use of violence to impose your views on others. But Israels treatment of the Palestinians is wrong and their exploitation of the occupied territories is also wrong. Israel receives billions of dollars in subsidies and preferential trade agreements, it's no wonder their economy grows whilst they impose economic misery on the Palestinans.
For a race that has suffered so much from historical persecution to impose so much injustice on another race beggars belief.
For those of you that don't know, Israel does organise its supporters to monitor stories like these and post positive comments about Israel. In fact they have a site called CIF watch whose sole purposes is to monitor The Guardians Comment Is Free section in order that they can flood any story about Israel with pro Israeli comments and get any comments they consider anti Semitic removed, no doubt an Argus Watch site is being developed as we speak, err type.
Fight_Back
says...
9:43am Sat 13 Oct 12
hursthill wrote:So tell me, how is it that YOU don't think Israel illegally occupies the West Bank but the UN does ? Are you seriously trying to say you know better than the UN ?
Fact - Israel does NOT illegally occupy the West Bank. - It administers the West Bank, following the 6 day war in 1967, when Syria, Jordan & Egypt tried to destroy Israel .
The Palestinians now want the West Bank as their state -Something Israel accepts, but the Palestinians refuse to hold final peace negotiations.
When Israel withdrew from Gaza hamas took over & instead of say manufacturing & exporting soda drinks, chose to export rockets to Israel. 20,000 + have been fired at Israeli civilians in the last 3 years, using their own people as human shields, - launching rockets from schools & hospitals.
A 2 state solution is the only way to achieve peace, but Israel will not allow the West bank to become another apartheid entity , like Gaza, where the stated aim of hamas is to destroy Israel.
Israeli Arabs do not want to be ruled by hamas or fatah, who would deny them the equal democratic rights they have in Israel. That is why so many Israeli Arabs want to serve in the Israeli army. Other Arabs serve as senior judges & diplomats, as well as being elected MP's in Parliament.
Israel is an economic success story. We all use Israeli Intel components in our computers, Israeli drugs & medicines, mobile phones etc, even lucas & greenstein buy Israeli exports !
I suggest you read UN resolution 2253 for starters before stating your opinion as "FACT". There are countless other UN resolutions deploring Israel's actions as well.
gaz scott
says...
10:00am Sat 13 Oct 12
SomethingsarejustwroSilly boy.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:I have heard a rumour that EDO may be using AMD chips in their computers.
hursthill wrote:Typical obfuscation. If Israel accepts that the Palestinians want the West Bank as their state then why is it allowing - indeed encouraging with economic incentives - settlers and settlements? As another displaced population used to say "you speak with forked-tongue".
Fact - Israel does NOT illegally occupy the West Bank. - It administers the West Bank, following the 6 day war in 1967, when Syria, Jordan & Egypt tried to destroy Israel .
The Palestinians now want the West Bank as their state -Something Israel accepts, but the Palestinians refuse to hold final peace negotiations.
When Israel withdrew from Gaza hamas took over & instead of say manufacturing & exporting soda drinks, chose to export rockets to Israel. 20,000 + have been fired at Israeli civilians in the last 3 years, using their own people as human shields, - launching rockets from schools & hospitals.
A 2 state solution is the only way to achieve peace, but Israel will not allow the West bank to become another apartheid entity , like Gaza, where the stated aim of hamas is to destroy Israel.
Israeli Arabs do not want to be ruled by hamas or fatah, who would deny them the equal democratic rights they have in Israel. That is why so many Israeli Arabs want to serve in the Israeli army. Other Arabs serve as senior judges & diplomats, as well as being elected MP's in Parliament.
Israel is an economic success story. We all use Israeli Intel components in our computers, Israeli drugs & medicines, mobile phones etc, even lucas & greenstein buy Israeli exports !
People can choose AMD rather than Intel for their computer thus avoiding Intel as much as possible as I do. Not sure about mobile phones. Is it only Motorola? Maybe someone can assist me there. But true we can't always account for some of the goods we buy. But then who would approve of all the regimes who supply the petrol in their tanks - possibly including you.
Given Gaz's supportive statement towards AMD that suggests that he is also supporting the manufacture of weapons of mass destruction (sic).
Perhaps the scruffy, disheveled miscreants that form the usual rent a mob should pile round to Gaz's mummy and daddy's mansion in middle England and begin one of their nonsensical protest actions.
Presume you will be there Gaz?
Somethingsarejustwrong
says...
10:10am Sat 13 Oct 12
gaz scott wrote:Can't quite cope with anything beyond one dimension can you Gaz.
SomethingsarejustwroSilly boy.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:I have heard a rumour that EDO may be using AMD chips in their computers.
hursthill wrote:Typical obfuscation. If Israel accepts that the Palestinians want the West Bank as their state then why is it allowing - indeed encouraging with economic incentives - settlers and settlements? As another displaced population used to say "you speak with forked-tongue".
Fact - Israel does NOT illegally occupy the West Bank. - It administers the West Bank, following the 6 day war in 1967, when Syria, Jordan & Egypt tried to destroy Israel .
The Palestinians now want the West Bank as their state -Something Israel accepts, but the Palestinians refuse to hold final peace negotiations.
When Israel withdrew from Gaza hamas took over & instead of say manufacturing & exporting soda drinks, chose to export rockets to Israel. 20,000 + have been fired at Israeli civilians in the last 3 years, using their own people as human shields, - launching rockets from schools & hospitals.
A 2 state solution is the only way to achieve peace, but Israel will not allow the West bank to become another apartheid entity , like Gaza, where the stated aim of hamas is to destroy Israel.
Israeli Arabs do not want to be ruled by hamas or fatah, who would deny them the equal democratic rights they have in Israel. That is why so many Israeli Arabs want to serve in the Israeli army. Other Arabs serve as senior judges & diplomats, as well as being elected MP's in Parliament.
Israel is an economic success story. We all use Israeli Intel components in our computers, Israeli drugs & medicines, mobile phones etc, even lucas & greenstein buy Israeli exports !
People can choose AMD rather than Intel for their computer thus avoiding Intel as much as possible as I do. Not sure about mobile phones. Is it only Motorola? Maybe someone can assist me there. But true we can't always account for some of the goods we buy. But then who would approve of all the regimes who supply the petrol in their tanks - possibly including you.
Given Gaz's supportive statement towards AMD that suggests that he is also supporting the manufacture of weapons of mass destruction (sic).
Perhaps the scruffy, disheveled miscreants that form the usual rent a mob should pile round to Gaz's mummy and daddy's mansion in middle England and begin one of their nonsensical protest actions.
Presume you will be there Gaz?
It's all black and white to you and how convenient that you can partition your privileged upbringing from your current obsessions, however as we all know - including even you - it doesn't quite work that way does it?
Hoping to see you on the squatters protest later, or will you be blocking the pavement on western Road with the other scruffy, disheveled miscreants?
Either way, I hope it goes horribly wrong for all of you.
gaz scott
says...
10:30am Sat 13 Oct 12
SomethingsarejustwroOne day you might post something of substance. When you do I'll be the first to congratulate you.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:Can't quite cope with anything beyond one dimension can you Gaz.
SomethingsarejustwroSilly boy.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:I have heard a rumour that EDO may be using AMD chips in their computers.
hursthill wrote:Typical obfuscation. If Israel accepts that the Palestinians want the West Bank as their state then why is it allowing - indeed encouraging with economic incentives - settlers and settlements? As another displaced population used to say "you speak with forked-tongue".
Fact - Israel does NOT illegally occupy the West Bank. - It administers the West Bank, following the 6 day war in 1967, when Syria, Jordan & Egypt tried to destroy Israel .
The Palestinians now want the West Bank as their state -Something Israel accepts, but the Palestinians refuse to hold final peace negotiations.
When Israel withdrew from Gaza hamas took over & instead of say manufacturing & exporting soda drinks, chose to export rockets to Israel. 20,000 + have been fired at Israeli civilians in the last 3 years, using their own people as human shields, - launching rockets from schools & hospitals.
A 2 state solution is the only way to achieve peace, but Israel will not allow the West bank to become another apartheid entity , like Gaza, where the stated aim of hamas is to destroy Israel.
Israeli Arabs do not want to be ruled by hamas or fatah, who would deny them the equal democratic rights they have in Israel. That is why so many Israeli Arabs want to serve in the Israeli army. Other Arabs serve as senior judges & diplomats, as well as being elected MP's in Parliament.
Israel is an economic success story. We all use Israeli Intel components in our computers, Israeli drugs & medicines, mobile phones etc, even lucas & greenstein buy Israeli exports !
People can choose AMD rather than Intel for their computer thus avoiding Intel as much as possible as I do. Not sure about mobile phones. Is it only Motorola? Maybe someone can assist me there. But true we can't always account for some of the goods we buy. But then who would approve of all the regimes who supply the petrol in their tanks - possibly including you.
Given Gaz's supportive statement towards AMD that suggests that he is also supporting the manufacture of weapons of mass destruction (sic).
Perhaps the scruffy, disheveled miscreants that form the usual rent a mob should pile round to Gaz's mummy and daddy's mansion in middle England and begin one of their nonsensical protest actions.
Presume you will be there Gaz?
It's all black and white to you and how convenient that you can partition your privileged upbringing from your current obsessions, however as we all know - including even you - it doesn't quite work that way does it?
Hoping to see you on the squatters protest later, or will you be blocking the pavement on western Road with the other scruffy, disheveled miscreants?
Either way, I hope it goes horribly wrong for all of you.
Somethingsarejustwrong
says...
10:35am Sat 13 Oct 12
gaz scott wrote:Your values are fundamentally flawed at every level and should I ever receive any positive comment from you, or find myself in agreement with you I'll throw the towel in.
SomethingsarejustwroOne day you might post something of substance. When you do I'll be the first to congratulate you.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:Can't quite cope with anything beyond one dimension can you Gaz.
SomethingsarejustwroSilly boy.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:I have heard a rumour that EDO may be using AMD chips in their computers.
hursthill wrote:Typical obfuscation. If Israel accepts that the Palestinians want the West Bank as their state then why is it allowing - indeed encouraging with economic incentives - settlers and settlements? As another displaced population used to say "you speak with forked-tongue".
Fact - Israel does NOT illegally occupy the West Bank. - It administers the West Bank, following the 6 day war in 1967, when Syria, Jordan & Egypt tried to destroy Israel .
The Palestinians now want the West Bank as their state -Something Israel accepts, but the Palestinians refuse to hold final peace negotiations.
When Israel withdrew from Gaza hamas took over & instead of say manufacturing & exporting soda drinks, chose to export rockets to Israel. 20,000 + have been fired at Israeli civilians in the last 3 years, using their own people as human shields, - launching rockets from schools & hospitals.
A 2 state solution is the only way to achieve peace, but Israel will not allow the West bank to become another apartheid entity , like Gaza, where the stated aim of hamas is to destroy Israel.
Israeli Arabs do not want to be ruled by hamas or fatah, who would deny them the equal democratic rights they have in Israel. That is why so many Israeli Arabs want to serve in the Israeli army. Other Arabs serve as senior judges & diplomats, as well as being elected MP's in Parliament.
Israel is an economic success story. We all use Israeli Intel components in our computers, Israeli drugs & medicines, mobile phones etc, even lucas & greenstein buy Israeli exports !
People can choose AMD rather than Intel for their computer thus avoiding Intel as much as possible as I do. Not sure about mobile phones. Is it only Motorola? Maybe someone can assist me there. But true we can't always account for some of the goods we buy. But then who would approve of all the regimes who supply the petrol in their tanks - possibly including you.
Given Gaz's supportive statement towards AMD that suggests that he is also supporting the manufacture of weapons of mass destruction (sic).
Perhaps the scruffy, disheveled miscreants that form the usual rent a mob should pile round to Gaz's mummy and daddy's mansion in middle England and begin one of their nonsensical protest actions.
Presume you will be there Gaz?
It's all black and white to you and how convenient that you can partition your privileged upbringing from your current obsessions, however as we all know - including even you - it doesn't quite work that way does it?
Hoping to see you on the squatters protest later, or will you be blocking the pavement on western Road with the other scruffy, disheveled miscreants?
Either way, I hope it goes horribly wrong for all of you.
have you ever answered a question on here without lying?
Now will you be protesting today, or not?
hursthill
says...
12:01pm Sat 13 Oct 12
GOOD NEWS. I saw Enland win 5-0 at Wembly last night. Israel also won 6-0 away to Luxembourg.
However gazscott & jhunty who share a common hatred of Israel, (jhunty refers to "a race"- we know where you are coming from) will never win.
FACT - Israel administers the West Bank in accordance with international law. Yes the UN will always pass resolutions condemning Israel, because there is an automatic anti- Israel block vote. The UN has happily allowed 50,000 + Syrian civilians to be slaughtered by their own goverment. That says it all.
The 2 extremists scott & hunty (AKA Punch & Judy ) have spent many years fighting each other on the Argus comments page, now they have fallen in love because of their shared malice towards Israel.
I am not associated with any organisation, as jhunty lieingly implies. I want peace & co-existence. The Israeli football team comprises both Arabs & Jews proud to play & win for their country. Peace will also win.
However gazscott & jhunty who share a common hatred of Israel, (jhunty refers to "a race"- we know where you are coming from) will never win.
FACT - Israel administers the West Bank in accordance with international law. Yes the UN will always pass resolutions condemning Israel, because there is an automatic anti- Israel block vote. The UN has happily allowed 50,000 + Syrian civilians to be slaughtered by their own goverment. That says it all.
The 2 extremists scott & hunty (AKA Punch & Judy ) have spent many years fighting each other on the Argus comments page, now they have fallen in love because of their shared malice towards Israel.
I am not associated with any organisation, as jhunty lieingly implies. I want peace & co-existence. The Israeli football team comprises both Arabs & Jews proud to play & win for their country. Peace will also win.
Fight_Back
says...
12:44pm Sat 13 Oct 12
@Hursthill - "FACT - Israel administers the West Bank in accordance with international law."
Sigh .... read the resolution and then come back and post FACTS.
You could drop the "poor hard done by Israel" act as well !
Sigh .... read the resolution and then come back and post FACTS.
You could drop the "poor hard done by Israel" act as well !
Nathan_Adler
says...
1:28pm Sat 13 Oct 12
Long live the state of Israel and may Jews once again rule the Earth and smite the cancer that is Palestine.
AmboGuy
says...
2:34pm Sat 13 Oct 12
Andy R wrote:Ok so that's a no from you too then. So that's currently........err none of the protesters who've actually been to the site then.
AmboGuy wrote:One doesn't need to visit the North Pole to know that it's bloody cold.
I'd be very interested if anyone of the protesters against this store could come into this forum and state that they have actually been to see the disputed factory in Mishor Adumim and spoken to the locals. Not you though Gaz Scott as you've been caught out lying so many times before no one believes what you say anymore.
Anyone else though please let me know if this is the case.
Ironic...the International Red Cross used to visit the concentration camps and what a fine benign show the Nazis would put on for them.
Good work guys.
gaz scott
says...
5:24pm Sat 13 Oct 12
SomethingsarejustwroOh sorry I didn't realise there was a question among all that verbiage you posted. Looking at it again I still can't see a direct question in your post but yes I was.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:Your values are fundamentally flawed at every level and should I ever receive any positive comment from you, or find myself in agreement with you I'll throw the towel in.
SomethingsarejustwroOne day you might post something of substance. When you do I'll be the first to congratulate you.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:Can't quite cope with anything beyond one dimension can you Gaz.
SomethingsarejustwroSilly boy.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:I have heard a rumour that EDO may be using AMD chips in their computers.
hursthill wrote:Typical obfuscation. If Israel accepts that the Palestinians want the West Bank as their state then why is it allowing - indeed encouraging with economic incentives - settlers and settlements? As another displaced population used to say "you speak with forked-tongue".
Fact - Israel does NOT illegally occupy the West Bank. - It administers the West Bank, following the 6 day war in 1967, when Syria, Jordan & Egypt tried to destroy Israel .
The Palestinians now want the West Bank as their state -Something Israel accepts, but the Palestinians refuse to hold final peace negotiations.
When Israel withdrew from Gaza hamas took over & instead of say manufacturing & exporting soda drinks, chose to export rockets to Israel. 20,000 + have been fired at Israeli civilians in the last 3 years, using their own people as human shields, - launching rockets from schools & hospitals.
A 2 state solution is the only way to achieve peace, but Israel will not allow the West bank to become another apartheid entity , like Gaza, where the stated aim of hamas is to destroy Israel.
Israeli Arabs do not want to be ruled by hamas or fatah, who would deny them the equal democratic rights they have in Israel. That is why so many Israeli Arabs want to serve in the Israeli army. Other Arabs serve as senior judges & diplomats, as well as being elected MP's in Parliament.
Israel is an economic success story. We all use Israeli Intel components in our computers, Israeli drugs & medicines, mobile phones etc, even lucas & greenstein buy Israeli exports !
People can choose AMD rather than Intel for their computer thus avoiding Intel as much as possible as I do. Not sure about mobile phones. Is it only Motorola? Maybe someone can assist me there. But true we can't always account for some of the goods we buy. But then who would approve of all the regimes who supply the petrol in their tanks - possibly including you.
Given Gaz's supportive statement towards AMD that suggests that he is also supporting the manufacture of weapons of mass destruction (sic).
Perhaps the scruffy, disheveled miscreants that form the usual rent a mob should pile round to Gaz's mummy and daddy's mansion in middle England and begin one of their nonsensical protest actions.
Presume you will be there Gaz?
It's all black and white to you and how convenient that you can partition your privileged upbringing from your current obsessions, however as we all know - including even you - it doesn't quite work that way does it?
Hoping to see you on the squatters protest later, or will you be blocking the pavement on western Road with the other scruffy, disheveled miscreants?
Either way, I hope it goes horribly wrong for all of you.
have you ever answered a question on here without lying?
Now will you be protesting today, or not?
gaz scott
says...
5:29pm Sat 13 Oct 12
AmboGuy wrote:So how would visiting the site make any difference. The settlements are not supported by any state other than Israel. Even their ardent allies the US do not consider the settlements legal. No visit will change that fact so once again I really can't see your point.
Andy R wrote:Ok so that's a no from you too then. So that's currently........err none of the protesters who've actually been to the site then.
AmboGuy wrote:One doesn't need to visit the North Pole to know that it's bloody cold.
I'd be very interested if anyone of the protesters against this store could come into this forum and state that they have actually been to see the disputed factory in Mishor Adumim and spoken to the locals. Not you though Gaz Scott as you've been caught out lying so many times before no one believes what you say anymore.
Anyone else though please let me know if this is the case.
Ironic...the International Red Cross used to visit the concentration camps and what a fine benign show the Nazis would put on for them.
Good work guys.
Somethingsarejustwrong
says...
6:29pm Sat 13 Oct 12
gaz scott wrote:We are all laughing out loud at you for the following reasons:-
SomethingsarejustwroOh sorry I didn't realise there was a question among all that verbiage you posted. Looking at it again I still can't see a direct question in your post but yes I was.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:Your values are fundamentally flawed at every level and should I ever receive any positive comment from you, or find myself in agreement with you I'll throw the towel in.
SomethingsarejustwroOne day you might post something of substance. When you do I'll be the first to congratulate you.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:Can't quite cope with anything beyond one dimension can you Gaz.
SomethingsarejustwroSilly boy.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:I have heard a rumour that EDO may be using AMD chips in their computers.
hursthill wrote:Typical obfuscation. If Israel accepts that the Palestinians want the West Bank as their state then why is it allowing - indeed encouraging with economic incentives - settlers and settlements? As another displaced population used to say "you speak with forked-tongue".
Fact - Israel does NOT illegally occupy the West Bank. - It administers the West Bank, following the 6 day war in 1967, when Syria, Jordan & Egypt tried to destroy Israel .
The Palestinians now want the West Bank as their state -Something Israel accepts, but the Palestinians refuse to hold final peace negotiations.
When Israel withdrew from Gaza hamas took over & instead of say manufacturing & exporting soda drinks, chose to export rockets to Israel. 20,000 + have been fired at Israeli civilians in the last 3 years, using their own people as human shields, - launching rockets from schools & hospitals.
A 2 state solution is the only way to achieve peace, but Israel will not allow the West bank to become another apartheid entity , like Gaza, where the stated aim of hamas is to destroy Israel.
Israeli Arabs do not want to be ruled by hamas or fatah, who would deny them the equal democratic rights they have in Israel. That is why so many Israeli Arabs want to serve in the Israeli army. Other Arabs serve as senior judges & diplomats, as well as being elected MP's in Parliament.
Israel is an economic success story. We all use Israeli Intel components in our computers, Israeli drugs & medicines, mobile phones etc, even lucas & greenstein buy Israeli exports !
People can choose AMD rather than Intel for their computer thus avoiding Intel as much as possible as I do. Not sure about mobile phones. Is it only Motorola? Maybe someone can assist me there. But true we can't always account for some of the goods we buy. But then who would approve of all the regimes who supply the petrol in their tanks - possibly including you.
Given Gaz's supportive statement towards AMD that suggests that he is also supporting the manufacture of weapons of mass destruction (sic).
Perhaps the scruffy, disheveled miscreants that form the usual rent a mob should pile round to Gaz's mummy and daddy's mansion in middle England and begin one of their nonsensical protest actions.
Presume you will be there Gaz?
It's all black and white to you and how convenient that you can partition your privileged upbringing from your current obsessions, however as we all know - including even you - it doesn't quite work that way does it?
Hoping to see you on the squatters protest later, or will you be blocking the pavement on western Road with the other scruffy, disheveled miscreants?
Either way, I hope it goes horribly wrong for all of you.
have you ever answered a question on here without lying?
Now will you be protesting today, or not?
1). You did not engage in any protest - despite suggesting you would
2). Your thoughts and views are ridiculous
3). You are a laughing stock
AmboGuy
says...
6:30pm Sat 13 Oct 12
gaz scott wrote:God forbid you should actually speak to both sides and get a balanced view. It seems you don't need a balanced view as that might actually make you have to question your preconceived ideas.
AmboGuy wrote:So how would visiting the site make any difference. The settlements are not supported by any state other than Israel. Even their ardent allies the US do not consider the settlements legal. No visit will change that fact so once again I really can't see your point.
Andy R wrote:Ok so that's a no from you too then. So that's currently........err none of the protesters who've actually been to the site then.
AmboGuy wrote:One doesn't need to visit the North Pole to know that it's bloody cold.
I'd be very interested if anyone of the protesters against this store could come into this forum and state that they have actually been to see the disputed factory in Mishor Adumim and spoken to the locals. Not you though Gaz Scott as you've been caught out lying so many times before no one believes what you say anymore.
Anyone else though please let me know if this is the case.
Ironic...the International Red Cross used to visit the concentration camps and what a fine benign show the Nazis would put on for them.
Good work guys.
Your ignorance sums up what you're all about I'm afraid Gaz.
gaz scott
says...
6:46pm Sat 13 Oct 12
AmboGuy wrote:So are you saying that if I went there I might meet someone who would persuade me that the Settlements aren't illegal. I would need to have some pretty high level meetings with some pretty high level people to overturn that view. But if you're suggesting that some bloke who works at the factory might be able to convince me that the UN, International Court of Justice and every state in the world apart from Israel is wrong then I guess I should get on the plane now.
gaz scott wrote:God forbid you should actually speak to both sides and get a balanced view. It seems you don't need a balanced view as that might actually make you have to question your preconceived ideas.
AmboGuy wrote:So how would visiting the site make any difference. The settlements are not supported by any state other than Israel. Even their ardent allies the US do not consider the settlements legal. No visit will change that fact so once again I really can't see your point.
Andy R wrote:Ok so that's a no from you too then. So that's currently........err none of the protesters who've actually been to the site then.
AmboGuy wrote:One doesn't need to visit the North Pole to know that it's bloody cold.
I'd be very interested if anyone of the protesters against this store could come into this forum and state that they have actually been to see the disputed factory in Mishor Adumim and spoken to the locals. Not you though Gaz Scott as you've been caught out lying so many times before no one believes what you say anymore.
Anyone else though please let me know if this is the case.
Ironic...the International Red Cross used to visit the concentration camps and what a fine benign show the Nazis would put on for them.
Good work guys.
Your ignorance sums up what you're all about I'm afraid Gaz.
Somethingsarejustwrong
says...
7:02pm Sat 13 Oct 12
gaz scott wrote:Your comments are nothing less than farcical and your intellect is some way well down the scale.
AmboGuy wrote:So are you saying that if I went there I might meet someone who would persuade me that the Settlements aren't illegal. I would need to have some pretty high level meetings with some pretty high level people to overturn that view. But if you're suggesting that some bloke who works at the factory might be able to convince me that the UN, International Court of Justice and every state in the world apart from Israel is wrong then I guess I should get on the plane now.
gaz scott wrote:God forbid you should actually speak to both sides and get a balanced view. It seems you don't need a balanced view as that might actually make you have to question your preconceived ideas.
AmboGuy wrote:So how would visiting the site make any difference. The settlements are not supported by any state other than Israel. Even their ardent allies the US do not consider the settlements legal. No visit will change that fact so once again I really can't see your point.
Andy R wrote:Ok so that's a no from you too then. So that's currently........err none of the protesters who've actually been to the site then.
AmboGuy wrote:One doesn't need to visit the North Pole to know that it's bloody cold.
I'd be very interested if anyone of the protesters against this store could come into this forum and state that they have actually been to see the disputed factory in Mishor Adumim and spoken to the locals. Not you though Gaz Scott as you've been caught out lying so many times before no one believes what you say anymore.
Anyone else though please let me know if this is the case.
Ironic...the International Red Cross used to visit the concentration camps and what a fine benign show the Nazis would put on for them.
Good work guys.
Your ignorance sums up what you're all about I'm afraid Gaz.
Ambo is running rings round you, yet you seem intent on bouncing back with your usual and stupid comments;why?
gaz scott
says...
7:31pm Sat 13 Oct 12
SomethingsarejustwroBut my dear boy how would you know if he was running rings around me or not? You've made it quite plain from your postings that you've absolutely no knowledge of anything outside of your limited Brighton based outlook. So let's leave Ambo to handle this himself shall we.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:Your comments are nothing less than farcical and your intellect is some way well down the scale.
AmboGuy wrote:So are you saying that if I went there I might meet someone who would persuade me that the Settlements aren't illegal. I would need to have some pretty high level meetings with some pretty high level people to overturn that view. But if you're suggesting that some bloke who works at the factory might be able to convince me that the UN, International Court of Justice and every state in the world apart from Israel is wrong then I guess I should get on the plane now.
gaz scott wrote:God forbid you should actually speak to both sides and get a balanced view. It seems you don't need a balanced view as that might actually make you have to question your preconceived ideas.
AmboGuy wrote:So how would visiting the site make any difference. The settlements are not supported by any state other than Israel. Even their ardent allies the US do not consider the settlements legal. No visit will change that fact so once again I really can't see your point.
Andy R wrote:Ok so that's a no from you too then. So that's currently........err none of the protesters who've actually been to the site then.
AmboGuy wrote:One doesn't need to visit the North Pole to know that it's bloody cold.
I'd be very interested if anyone of the protesters against this store could come into this forum and state that they have actually been to see the disputed factory in Mishor Adumim and spoken to the locals. Not you though Gaz Scott as you've been caught out lying so many times before no one believes what you say anymore.
Anyone else though please let me know if this is the case.
Ironic...the International Red Cross used to visit the concentration camps and what a fine benign show the Nazis would put on for them.
Good work guys.
Your ignorance sums up what you're all about I'm afraid Gaz.
Ambo is running rings round you, yet you seem intent on bouncing back with your usual and stupid comments;why?
Somethingsarejustwrong
says...
7:42pm Sat 13 Oct 12
gaz scott wrote:How I despair at your complete lack of intellect. Had you a few brain cells then I would imagine the many users of this site would not be laughing at you quite so much.
SomethingsarejustwroBut my dear boy how would you know if he was running rings around me or not? You've made it quite plain from your postings that you've absolutely no knowledge of anything outside of your limited Brighton based outlook. So let's leave Ambo to handle this himself shall we.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:Your comments are nothing less than farcical and your intellect is some way well down the scale.
AmboGuy wrote:So are you saying that if I went there I might meet someone who would persuade me that the Settlements aren't illegal. I would need to have some pretty high level meetings with some pretty high level people to overturn that view. But if you're suggesting that some bloke who works at the factory might be able to convince me that the UN, International Court of Justice and every state in the world apart from Israel is wrong then I guess I should get on the plane now.
gaz scott wrote:God forbid you should actually speak to both sides and get a balanced view. It seems you don't need a balanced view as that might actually make you have to question your preconceived ideas.
AmboGuy wrote:So how would visiting the site make any difference. The settlements are not supported by any state other than Israel. Even their ardent allies the US do not consider the settlements legal. No visit will change that fact so once again I really can't see your point.
Andy R wrote:Ok so that's a no from you too then. So that's currently........err none of the protesters who've actually been to the site then.
AmboGuy wrote:One doesn't need to visit the North Pole to know that it's bloody cold.
I'd be very interested if anyone of the protesters against this store could come into this forum and state that they have actually been to see the disputed factory in Mishor Adumim and spoken to the locals. Not you though Gaz Scott as you've been caught out lying so many times before no one believes what you say anymore.
Anyone else though please let me know if this is the case.
Ironic...the International Red Cross used to visit the concentration camps and what a fine benign show the Nazis would put on for them.
Good work guys.
Your ignorance sums up what you're all about I'm afraid Gaz.
Ambo is running rings round you, yet you seem intent on bouncing back with your usual and stupid comments;why?
However.............
........LOL
Maxwell's Ghost
says...
8:07pm Sat 13 Oct 12
Men all over the world bullying women and children and doing it here on our doorsteps too.
I find this oppressive behaviour by men who just want to fight for any cause they can equally offensive.
It's been the same for centuries whether it be NI, Palestine etc
Years ago gaz Scott and his opposites could join the army and get into a war now they do it in our own doorsteps hijacking world troubles to feed their own need for warring behaviour.
I find this oppressive behaviour by men who just want to fight for any cause they can equally offensive.
It's been the same for centuries whether it be NI, Palestine etc
Years ago gaz Scott and his opposites could join the army and get into a war now they do it in our own doorsteps hijacking world troubles to feed their own need for warring behaviour.
Somethingsarejustwrong
says...
8:11pm Sat 13 Oct 12
Maxwell's Ghost wrote:Completely agree and what makes it even worse is that nice fellows like Gaz, are, I suspect as soft as s**t, yet talk like the big man.
Men all over the world bullying women and children and doing it here on our doorsteps too.
I find this oppressive behaviour by men who just want to fight for any cause they can equally offensive.
It's been the same for centuries whether it be NI, Palestine etc
Years ago gaz Scott and his opposites could join the army and get into a war now they do it in our own doorsteps hijacking world troubles to feed their own need for warring behaviour.
gaz scott
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8:13pm Sat 13 Oct 12
SomethingsarejustwroWell you can type insults all evening and laugh as much as you like but I don't think you've convinced anyone of your capacity to do anything else. So carry on as I won't be here for the rest of the evening.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:How I despair at your complete lack of intellect. Had you a few brain cells then I would imagine the many users of this site would not be laughing at you quite so much.
SomethingsarejustwroBut my dear boy how would you know if he was running rings around me or not? You've made it quite plain from your postings that you've absolutely no knowledge of anything outside of your limited Brighton based outlook. So let's leave Ambo to handle this himself shall we.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:Your comments are nothing less than farcical and your intellect is some way well down the scale.
AmboGuy wrote:So are you saying that if I went there I might meet someone who would persuade me that the Settlements aren't illegal. I would need to have some pretty high level meetings with some pretty high level people to overturn that view. But if you're suggesting that some bloke who works at the factory might be able to convince me that the UN, International Court of Justice and every state in the world apart from Israel is wrong then I guess I should get on the plane now.
gaz scott wrote:God forbid you should actually speak to both sides and get a balanced view. It seems you don't need a balanced view as that might actually make you have to question your preconceived ideas.
AmboGuy wrote:So how would visiting the site make any difference. The settlements are not supported by any state other than Israel. Even their ardent allies the US do not consider the settlements legal. No visit will change that fact so once again I really can't see your point.
Andy R wrote:Ok so that's a no from you too then. So that's currently........err none of the protesters who've actually been to the site then.
AmboGuy wrote:One doesn't need to visit the North Pole to know that it's bloody cold.
I'd be very interested if anyone of the protesters against this store could come into this forum and state that they have actually been to see the disputed factory in Mishor Adumim and spoken to the locals. Not you though Gaz Scott as you've been caught out lying so many times before no one believes what you say anymore.
Anyone else though please let me know if this is the case.
Ironic...the International Red Cross used to visit the concentration camps and what a fine benign show the Nazis would put on for them.
Good work guys.
Your ignorance sums up what you're all about I'm afraid Gaz.
Ambo is running rings round you, yet you seem intent on bouncing back with your usual and stupid comments;why?
However.............
........LOL
Do you even know where the West Bank is? Why don't you look it up. I'll be asking questions later.
You do have the effect of making Amboguy look relatively intelligent as well as disrupting the thread and giving him excuses not to reply to direct questions.
Somethingsarejustwrong
says...
8:17pm Sat 13 Oct 12
gaz scott wrote:Case proven m'lord
SomethingsarejustwroWell you can type insults all evening and laugh as much as you like but I don't think you've convinced anyone of your capacity to do anything else. So carry on as I won't be here for the rest of the evening.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:How I despair at your complete lack of intellect. Had you a few brain cells then I would imagine the many users of this site would not be laughing at you quite so much.
SomethingsarejustwroBut my dear boy how would you know if he was running rings around me or not? You've made it quite plain from your postings that you've absolutely no knowledge of anything outside of your limited Brighton based outlook. So let's leave Ambo to handle this himself shall we.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:Your comments are nothing less than farcical and your intellect is some way well down the scale.
AmboGuy wrote:So are you saying that if I went there I might meet someone who would persuade me that the Settlements aren't illegal. I would need to have some pretty high level meetings with some pretty high level people to overturn that view. But if you're suggesting that some bloke who works at the factory might be able to convince me that the UN, International Court of Justice and every state in the world apart from Israel is wrong then I guess I should get on the plane now.
gaz scott wrote:God forbid you should actually speak to both sides and get a balanced view. It seems you don't need a balanced view as that might actually make you have to question your preconceived ideas.
AmboGuy wrote:So how would visiting the site make any difference. The settlements are not supported by any state other than Israel. Even their ardent allies the US do not consider the settlements legal. No visit will change that fact so once again I really can't see your point.
Andy R wrote:Ok so that's a no from you too then. So that's currently........err none of the protesters who've actually been to the site then.
AmboGuy wrote:One doesn't need to visit the North Pole to know that it's bloody cold.
I'd be very interested if anyone of the protesters against this store could come into this forum and state that they have actually been to see the disputed factory in Mishor Adumim and spoken to the locals. Not you though Gaz Scott as you've been caught out lying so many times before no one believes what you say anymore.
Anyone else though please let me know if this is the case.
Ironic...the International Red Cross used to visit the concentration camps and what a fine benign show the Nazis would put on for them.
Good work guys.
Your ignorance sums up what you're all about I'm afraid Gaz.
Ambo is running rings round you, yet you seem intent on bouncing back with your usual and stupid comments;why?
However.............
........LOL
Do you even know where the West Bank is? Why don't you look it up. I'll be asking questions later.
You do have the effect of making Amboguy look relatively intelligent as well as disrupting the thread and giving him excuses not to reply to direct questions.
I think Gaz is back to mummy and daddy's pile in affluent middle England.
How we all giggle at you.
Capt. Sensiblé
says...
11:29pm Sat 13 Oct 12
gaz scott wrote:Come on now lads, get yourselves down the pub for a pint and calm down
SomethingsarejustwroWell you can type insults all evening and laugh as much as you like but I don't think you've convinced anyone of your capacity to do anything else. So carry on as I won't be here for the rest of the evening.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:How I despair at your complete lack of intellect. Had you a few brain cells then I would imagine the many users of this site would not be laughing at you quite so much.
SomethingsarejustwroBut my dear boy how would you know if he was running rings around me or not? You've made it quite plain from your postings that you've absolutely no knowledge of anything outside of your limited Brighton based outlook. So let's leave Ambo to handle this himself shall we.
ng wrote:
gaz scott wrote:Your comments are nothing less than farcical and your intellect is some way well down the scale.
AmboGuy wrote:So are you saying that if I went there I might meet someone who would persuade me that the Settlements aren't illegal. I would need to have some pretty high level meetings with some pretty high level people to overturn that view. But if you're suggesting that some bloke who works at the factory might be able to convince me that the UN, International Court of Justice and every state in the world apart from Israel is wrong then I guess I should get on the plane now.
gaz scott wrote:God forbid you should actually speak to both sides and get a balanced view. It seems you don't need a balanced view as that might actually make you have to question your preconceived ideas.
AmboGuy wrote:So how would visiting the site make any difference. The settlements are not supported by any state other than Israel. Even their ardent allies the US do not consider the settlements legal. No visit will change that fact so once again I really can't see your point.
Andy R wrote:Ok so that's a no from you too then. So that's currently........err none of the protesters who've actually been to the site then.
AmboGuy wrote:One doesn't need to visit the North Pole to know that it's bloody cold.
I'd be very interested if anyone of the protesters against this store could come into this forum and state that they have actually been to see the disputed factory in Mishor Adumim and spoken to the locals. Not you though Gaz Scott as you've been caught out lying so many times before no one believes what you say anymore.
Anyone else though please let me know if this is the case.
Ironic...the International Red Cross used to visit the concentration camps and what a fine benign show the Nazis would put on for them.
Good work guys.
Your ignorance sums up what you're all about I'm afraid Gaz.
Ambo is running rings round you, yet you seem intent on bouncing back with your usual and stupid comments;why?
However.............
........LOL
Do you even know where the West Bank is? Why don't you look it up. I'll be asking questions later.
You do have the effect of making Amboguy look relatively intelligent as well as disrupting the thread and giving him excuses not to reply to direct questions.
Dabthirtyfive
says...
12:22am Sun 14 Oct 12
talbot wrote:I think a better idea would be for you to move out of Brighton. Back to TURKIYE preferably.
please this unpleasant shop is a joke move out of brighton yours HASSAN IN TURKIYE
Dabthirtyfive
says...
12:55am Sun 14 Oct 12
The protests took place again today. Very noisily, with most people scurrying past, faces showing fearful looks, hoping they wouldnt get pounced on by
the great unwashed.
There was however a vistor from the settlements in the West bank. A young woman, who looked aghast at the palestinian solidiarity group and pronouncing them both mad and wrong in what they were doing, went and showed her support firmly for the Support Israel group. She said the pali rabble had no idea what they were talking about and they were totally wrong about the situation.
So..I think you can all rest assured that none of the rabble have visited..It's what is called hot air and ****.
the great unwashed.
There was however a vistor from the settlements in the West bank. A young woman, who looked aghast at the palestinian solidiarity group and pronouncing them both mad and wrong in what they were doing, went and showed her support firmly for the Support Israel group. She said the pali rabble had no idea what they were talking about and they were totally wrong about the situation.
So..I think you can all rest assured that none of the rabble have visited..It's what is called hot air and ****.
Maxwell's Ghost
says...
1:17am Sun 14 Oct 12
Gaz Scott is just like the yanks who popped dollars in the tins for the NI troubles just because they wanted to celebrate their ancestry not really understanding the misery their money was causing.
When the States suffered its first international incidence of terrorism on 9/11 its residents understood what whipping up hatred can cause.
I do wish war mongering men such as gaz would leave Britain and go and live in the communities he wants to help instead of wreaking misery here where people want peace.
Go gaz go.
When the States suffered its first international incidence of terrorism on 9/11 its residents understood what whipping up hatred can cause.
I do wish war mongering men such as gaz would leave Britain and go and live in the communities he wants to help instead of wreaking misery here where people want peace.
Go gaz go.
Somethingsarejustwrong
says...
8:59am Sun 14 Oct 12
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Brighton would be a much better place if gaz scott and the other workshy, scruffy, disheveled and unwashed moved away.
gaz scott
says...
10:44am Sun 14 Oct 12
A 4 hour picket yesterday supported by several people who'd come to Brighton especially.
http://azvsas.blogsp
ot.co.uk/2012/10/in-
1933-people-boycotte
d-german-goods.html
http://azvsas.blogsp
ot.co.uk/2012/10/in-
1933-people-boycotte
d-german-goods.html
gaz scott
says...
11:30am Sun 14 Oct 12
SomethingsarejustwroAw Bladesboy. Come on. You know you'd miss me and your life would have even less value than it has today.
ng wrote:
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Brighton would be a much better place if gaz scott and the other workshy, scruffy, disheveled and unwashed moved away.
Dabthirtyfive
says...
2:05pm Sun 14 Oct 12
Has John Keenan, Palestinian supporter, been fiddling with the posts? Things I've written, attributed to other people. Posts appearing from me that I've not written. If this carries on, people will start to think I'm on the side of the unwashed protesters instead of on the side of those in the right.
Somethingsarejustwrong
says...
2:47pm Sun 14 Oct 12
gaz scott wrote:Based on the responses to your comments posted on here I think its safe to say that no one would miss you. The sooner you go the better (for us)!
SomethingsarejustwroAw Bladesboy. Come on. You know you'd miss me and your life would have even less value than it has today.
ng wrote:
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Brighton would be a much better place if gaz scott and the other workshy, scruffy, disheveled and unwashed moved away.
Serendiptiyblue19
says...
11:33pm Sun 14 Oct 12
http://www.arabnews.
com/arab-spring-and-
israeli-enemy
com/arab-spring-and-
israeli-enemy
davyboy
says...
5:05pm Mon 15 Oct 12
does it really matter WHO owns the land? we are talking about a factory which makes fizzy drinks, for crying out loud, not who is building a nuclear bomb! how will protesting in brighton help, anyway? same goes for those muppets who call themselves 'smashEDO'.
Fairfax Sakes
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5:23pm Mon 15 Oct 12
gaz scott wrote:Any argument trying to bring about change by asserting the international legality of a trans-national issue is fairly irrelevant. Whether something is 'legal' or not is only relevant to its enforceability, which is in turn relative to who is doing the enforcing on whom. This being the case, I doubt Eco Stream will have much influence at the table of international diplomatic relations, therefore my point is yet again; to what purpose these protests? If for Palestinian rights, the focus would be better served aimed at political targets. If for general human rights or anti-corporation reasons then surely there are bigger fish to fry.
Goyboy wrote:The UN, International Court of Justice as well as the International Community consider these settlements illegal. I don't see how any number of visits can change this fact.
spa301 wrote:I can understand how this sort of debate looks from time to time, with various people slagging each other off and trying to put each other down...I agree it isn't helpful.
Cue another avalanche of abusive emails from both sides of this intractable debate.
We in the middle hold our heads in our hands and despair.....
What is needed is a constant flow of truthful statements that force people that are interested to sit up and take notice....but it is very difficult sometimes to sort out fact from fiction, and lies are often hidden under some very persuasive half-truths.
From my perspective Ecostream has every right to be in Brighton, the local people and those that represent the people should actually make them welcome. It is ironic that they chose Brighton to open their first shop because of its 'Green' credentials, but are actually opposed by default because of what amounts to nothing more than Palestinian propaganda reaching out and garnering support from gullible Westerners under the guise of human rights isssues.
What Ecostream have actually done in the area of Ma'ale Adumim is bring a modicum of prosperity and stability to the region, and 500 Palestinians and their families reap the benefit...I would really hope Green MP Caroline Lucas takes up the challenge and goes out to see the factory for herself, and then perhaps she will realise there is a bigger picture that is being obscured by political activists (for want of a better word).
Most people will sympathise with the abuse of any human being's rights, the problem with the protestors is that they seem incapable of presenting a coherent or persuasive argument to the general populace, their 'brand' being percieved (rightly or wrongly) to embody facets which I think its fair to say the majority of the populace find antagonistic.
In brief: if you want to achieve your goals, you need to get people on board, to do this you need to consider what is the best way to do that and market yourself and your message accordingly!
parcel
says...
11:22pm Mon 15 Oct 12
Pathetic, a group of people protesting about a factory in another country, Which they know nothing about, just relying on rumours an hearsay.
Who's feeding you all this dis-information!
They mustav very shallow lives!
If there that "incensed", let them go over there and see how far they'd get in their protests by the local police!
There just goyims, who dont understand the real purpose and threat that Pallys present.
Your fighting a losing battle.....
Oy vey!
Who's feeding you all this dis-information!
They mustav very shallow lives!
If there that "incensed", let them go over there and see how far they'd get in their protests by the local police!
There just goyims, who dont understand the real purpose and threat that Pallys present.
Your fighting a losing battle.....
Oy vey!
Somethingsarejustwrong
says...
5:40am Fri 19 Oct 12
Just opened the curtains and looking out of the window past the rain noticed that I am in England, Brighton actually.
gaz scott
says...
8:48am Fri 19 Oct 12
SomethingsarejustwroThus ends yet another tedious week in the unfulfilled life of Bladesboy.
ng wrote:
Just opened the curtains and looking out of the window past the rain noticed that I am in England, Brighton actually.
Somethingsarejustwrong
says...
9:32am Sat 20 Oct 12
gaz scott wrote:Another marvelous and value add contribution from our resident minority extremist.
SomethingsarejustwroThus ends yet another tedious week in the unfulfilled life of Bladesboy.
ng wrote:
Just opened the curtains and looking out of the window past the rain noticed that I am in England, Brighton actually.
Today its still Brighton out there and my view from the window suggests that its likely to stay that way.
BornInBrighton1968 says...
2:49pm Fri 12 Oct 12
99% of Brighton residents support you; it is only the politically-correct, bleeding-heart, Marxist panty wetters who oppose you, and they would be better off going out and getting jobs.