Brighton and Hove squatters: 'The law won't stop us' (From The Argus)

Whatever next.....

"Police thank rapists for asking consent"

"Police thank kiddy fiddlers for waiting until they are 16"

"Police thank burglars for not stealing all of Grandads war medals"

"Police thank terrorists for not killing too many civilians"

Squatters are criminal scum who deserve to be locked up, not thanked by politically correct Police officers.

Ridiculous, ruddy ridiculous.

It does seem to be the case that there's a subset of human beings who lurk around articles all day waiting to make the first and most ignorant comment. It is not 'being politically correct' to express pleasure at a peaceful protest, which all citizens have the right to lead and participate in. Thankfully Sussex police aren't raving bigots like you; the world would be a far worse place for it.

Only 70, ( and you know the papers always double the figure, so more likely 35 ). What a pathetic turnout of pathetic freeloading scumbags. Good riddance to bad smelling rubbish.

Nathan_Adler wrote:
Whatever next..... "Police thank rapists for asking consent" "Police thank kiddy fiddlers for waiting until they are 16" "Police thank burglars for not stealing all of Grandads war medals" "Police thank terrorists for not killing too many civilians" Squatters are criminal scum who deserve to be locked up, not thanked by politically correct Police officers. Ridiculous, ruddy ridiculous.

As Nathan already said.....so I won't add my comments.

Dandyli0n wrote:
It does seem to be the case that there's a subset of human beings who lurk around articles all day waiting to make the first and most ignorant comment. It is not 'being politically correct' to express pleasure at a peaceful protest, which all citizens have the right to lead and participate in. Thankfully Sussex police aren't raving bigots like you; the world would be a far worse place for it.

I would have taken your point on board until you resorted to personal insult.

I think that shows your true colours.

And I really, really apologise for commenting some 27 minutes before you. How bigoted of me!!

So if we can get some of the present benefit grabbing free-loaders doing a bit of building work we could create a detainment centre for this bunch of miscreants and take them off the streets once and for all.

Ignoring whether these lot are or are not freeloaders, surely the greater crime is for this town to have a couple of thousands registered homeless, the majority of which are families, without a place to call their own.

Jemima and Sebastian had an absolutely smashing time; mummy dropped them both off in the Volvo, and Jemima was using her iPad that Daddy bought her to send tweets to all of her friends at Pony Club'.

Just like the Occupy wasters, white, middle-class kids playing at being edgy and alternative...

graham_Seagull wrote:
Ignoring whether these lot are or are not freeloaders, surely the greater crime is for this town to have a couple of thousands registered homeless, the majority of which are families, without a place to call their own.

In 2011, 1086 people asked to be registered as homeless.and 458 of those passed the criteria for homelessness. At the start of this year, 658 people were living in temporary accommodation.

Not brilliant, but not a couple of thousand either.

graham_Seagull wrote:
Ignoring whether these lot are or are not freeloaders, surely the greater crime is for this town to have a couple of thousands registered homeless, the majority of which are families, without a place to call their own.

Yes, you are spot on!

We should bus them back to their original place of birth.

Nathan_Adler wrote:
Whatever next.....

"Police thank rapists for asking consent"

"Police thank kiddy fiddlers for waiting until they are 16"

"Police thank burglars for not stealing all of Grandads war medals"

"Police thank terrorists for not killing too many civilians"

Squatters are criminal scum who deserve to be locked up, not thanked by politically correct Police officers.

Ridiculous, ruddy ridiculous.

Are you suggesting they should have all been "rounded up" and arrested for simply supporting squatting?

You haven't quite got the hang of democracy I feel.

gaz scott wrote:

Nathan_Adler wrote:
Whatever next.....

"Police thank rapists for asking consent"

"Police thank kiddy fiddlers for waiting until they are 16"

"Police thank burglars for not stealing all of Grandads war medals"

"Police thank terrorists for not killing too many civilians"

Squatters are criminal scum who deserve to be locked up, not thanked by politically correct Police officers.

Ridiculous, ruddy ridiculous.

Are you suggesting they should have all been "rounded up" and arrested for simply supporting squatting?

You haven't quite got the hang of democracy I feel.

No - what I am saying is squatting is a criminal offence.

If I openly supported child abuse, I would be arrested.

If I openly supported terrorism, I would be arrested (unless I was a Muslim)

Why, therefore, should the police thank people for what is little more than incitement to a criminal offence?

You haven't quite got the hang of irony I feel.

Nathan_Adler wrote:

gaz scott wrote:

Nathan_Adler wrote:
Whatever next.....

"Police thank rapists for asking consent"

"Police thank kiddy fiddlers for waiting until they are 16"

"Police thank burglars for not stealing all of Grandads war medals"

"Police thank terrorists for not killing too many civilians"

Squatters are criminal scum who deserve to be locked up, not thanked by politically correct Police officers.

Ridiculous, ruddy ridiculous.

Are you suggesting they should have all been "rounded up" and arrested for simply supporting squatting?

You haven't quite got the hang of democracy I feel.

No - what I am saying is squatting is a criminal offence.

If I openly supported child abuse, I would be arrested.

If I openly supported terrorism, I would be arrested (unless I was a Muslim)

Why, therefore, should the police thank people for what is little more than incitement to a criminal offence?

You haven't quite got the hang of irony I feel.

No you are totally wrong. Squatting in residential property is a newly legislated criminal offence (unjustly in my point of view but that's just my opinion).

Squatting is NOT a criminal offence. It is in fact perfectly legal to squat commercial premises. So I'm afraid the police are right to facilitate this demo and you are most definitely wrong here.

Now all we need is the law to be extended so squatting in commercial premises is made illegal too. It's a bit like saying you can't steal someone's own private car but their company car is fair game. Madness.

The new legislations on squatting is a massive hypocrisy when there are so many people that are homeless. I do not necessarily agree with squatting however until such time as the government takes action over the large number of long term empty properties in this country I will continue to support people's right to do so.
As for the people criticising the police for thanking the protesters, they were simply tanking them for conducting themselves in a lawful manner.

The housing shortage is totally indefensible. People need shelter as much as they need basic necessities like food and water. That's so obvious that the rabid nonsense here is reminiscent of the story of the emperor with no clothes.

Surely if they can organise protests and squatts they have quite a high level of management skills. Why not stop whinging and start working? Create rather than destroy and get your hands out of our pockets.

So re-assuring to see the scum of Brighton coming out of the woodwork to condemn the homeless.

Brilliant work.

redwing wrote:
The housing shortage is totally indefensible. People need shelter as much as they need basic necessities like food and water. That's so obvious that the rabid nonsense here is reminiscent of the story of the emperor with no clothes.

There might be empty houses, but that doesnt mean its right to break into someones house and wreck the place. We know most if not all squatters are not genuine homeless people, but mostly middle class brats with an agenda hellbent on causing problems. There might be lots of property left empty, but what business it is of theirs? Work hard and put a roof over your own head like the rest of us and stop moaning. If someone owns a house and leaves it empty for a while, it's nothing to do with anyone else, it's their house. So how is it right someone breaks in and starts to take ownership of the place? It's stealing. I fully back the law all the way.

About these yobs were hosed down, Belfast-style. Why should the rest of us pay our way, but these wasters get it for nothing?

Poccypoc wrote:
About these yobs were hosed down, Belfast-style. Why should the rest of us pay our way, but these wasters get it for nothing?

Time. About time.

Let's not forget the poverty some of these people endure. I overheard one telling another that they hadn't been able to pick up the latest iPhone yet as they were a bit strapped for cash. SEE you doubters, there IS real abject poverty amongst these squatters.

NickBrt wrote:
Let's not forget the poverty some of these people endure. I overheard one telling another that they hadn't been able to pick up the latest iPhone yet as they were a bit strapped for cash. SEE you doubters, there IS real abject poverty amongst these squatters.

Did you really?

What time did the Argus change the headline from 'Police thank protesters' to Brighton and Hove squatters: 'The law won't stop us'?

NickBrt wrote:
Let's not forget the poverty some of these people endure. I overheard one telling another that they hadn't been able to pick up the latest iPhone yet as they were a bit strapped for cash. SEE you doubters, there IS real abject poverty amongst these squatters.

Yeah I bet they've had to cut down on their Mocha Lattes from Starbucks too as they've put their prices up too! Still, I really feel for these poor poor people living in such abject poverty. The only escapism they get from their hard lives is to have loud parties every night like the squats in Wellington Road and Upper Gardner Street did before they got thrown out on the streets.

Remember these are genuinely homeless people who want to make a statement about the amount of empty houses in B&H and surely the best way to do this is to break into a property and have all night parties every night of the week.

Hey SNOB count me in.

I am glad that squatting in residential properties has become a criminal offence, squatting in a commercial property is ...trespass, therefore a criminal offence. also along with squatting comes the other offences....criminal damage to name one. IF squatters have a point to make, why do they end up damaging the property?, in some cases making that property uninhabitable, allegedly, against the point they are trying to make.
Squatters have no intention of settling down in a home, it is their way of life, like travellers,..... they choose it.
Anyone committed of a squatting offence should receive a custodial sentence as a deterrent, and an example to others.

I'm really struggling to see of what benefit or positive actions squatting has on the city? I know it is not the homeless squatting in premises it's the radicals & anarchists. There are plenty of projects that support the homeless. All squatters are is freeloaders who want to take from the city but give nothing back in return.
KICK OUT FREELOADERS!

Evasivo.

SPOT ON ........well said

cookie_brighton wrote:
Evasivo.

SPOT ON ........well said

Yes absolutely. If I was a homeless person reading their comments I would be absolutely LIVID at how they've hijacked a genuine problem to try and justify their disgusting acts.

They should feel utterly ashamed of themselves for using the homeless for their own selfish propaganda.

AmboGuy wrote:

cookie_brighton wrote: Evasivo. SPOT ON ........well said

Yes absolutely. If I was a homeless person reading their comments I would be absolutely LIVID at how they've hijacked a genuine problem to try and justify their disgusting acts. They should feel utterly ashamed of themselves for using the homeless for their own selfish propaganda.

Well, I AM a homeless person.

And personally, I couldn't give a monkeys what they do. Because if I got wound up by all the people who irritated me including (but not limited to) squatters, Police, teenage thugs, muggers, 'Angry from Eastbourne' man, racist bigots, local Councils, Central Government, petty bureaucracy and all of the others with their own agenda which sits uncomfortably with reality and society- I would starve to death because I'd never have the time to think about food.

All lefties Smell wrote:
Only 70, ( and you know the papers always double the figure, so more likely 35 ). What a pathetic turnout of pathetic freeloading scumbags. Good riddance to bad smelling rubbish.

Couldn't have summed it better !
Also.....did they pop in on the cage-fighters at ZT to vent their anger as promised ?

"The law won't stop us".
Actually it will. Wait and see.

Arrogant little f***wits who think they are above the law.

Time to give those truncheons an airing methinks. Or whatever it is that the Police use these days!

Most squatters are ok but bits the ones who make their neighbors lives a misery I disagree with! Squatting should NOT be a criminal offence "IF a building has been empty for a length of time it should be utilised!" Now when folks realise the biggest Freeloaders and Squatters are David Scameron and chums then perhaps the real homless will be given a chance!!!

"BETTER TO SQUAT THAN LET HOMES ROT"...WHAT DOES THE NEW LAW MEAN....I was explaining to a younger friend of mine what the new squatting law means to me. She was undecided as to whether it was a good thing with some many homeless people that she could see in Brighton.

I then went on to explain that I am buying my first house soon, with my hard earned cash - FROM WORKING FOR A LIVING - and if I left it vacant for a couple of weeks whilst renovating, the squatters could move in. They, the anarchistic (but still benefit claiming) non tax payers would trash it at a cost of thousands to me, the tax paying mug, and the police could do nothing really. I would be left to foot the cleanup/eviction bill.

Needless to say this persuaded her. Please spare me the responses that squatters enhance the buildings they live in... these cases are few and far between. Its hard enough to get a builder to do quality work, I don't think any squatters are going to enhance my property with pallet wood partitions, dangling bits of hemp and letting their dogs cr@p on my floor.

Yes it will.We do not want you in Brighton.The party is over.Once your Green party backers get ousted you will see a difference,No more weak/squatter/demons
trator/99%/freebie camper parking loving council.

What never ceases to amaze me is that these people seem to think there is an endless pit of money which belongs to no one in particular and can therefore be dipped in continuously to support them in their "lifestyle".

Now they wish to extend their fecklessness to being entitled to other people's property and see no problem with that - well tough, most of us do and at last the law reflects that.

By the way since when has 70, if it was that many, constituted "mass action" ? Someone's in La La land

Goldenwight wrote:

AmboGuy wrote:

cookie_brighton wrote: Evasivo. SPOT ON ........well said

Yes absolutely. If I was a homeless person reading their comments I would be absolutely LIVID at how they've hijacked a genuine problem to try and justify their disgusting acts. They should feel utterly ashamed of themselves for using the homeless for their own selfish propaganda.

Well, I AM a homeless person.

And personally, I couldn't give a monkeys what they do. Because if I got wound up by all the people who irritated me including (but not limited to) squatters, Police, teenage thugs, muggers, 'Angry from Eastbourne' man, racist bigots, local Councils, Central Government, petty bureaucracy and all of the others with their own agenda which sits uncomfortably with reality and society- I would starve to death because I'd never have the time to think about food.

Really, so you can be homeless and still access the internet?? Amazing!!

Goldenwight wrote:

AmboGuy wrote:

cookie_brighton wrote: Evasivo. SPOT ON ........well said

Yes absolutely. If I was a homeless person reading their comments I would be absolutely LIVID at how they've hijacked a genuine problem to try and justify their disgusting acts. They should feel utterly ashamed of themselves for using the homeless for their own selfish propaganda.

Well, I AM a homeless person.

And personally, I couldn't give a monkeys what they do. Because if I got wound up by all the people who irritated me including (but not limited to) squatters, Police, teenage thugs, muggers, 'Angry from Eastbourne' man, racist bigots, local Councils, Central Government, petty bureaucracy and all of the others with their own agenda which sits uncomfortably with reality and society- I would starve to death because I'd never have the time to think about food.

And what's your point exactly?

Any squatter entering a residential property might be treated as a burglar. Given that burglars are effectively free game these days, it could get very messy.

Leon wrote:
"BETTER TO SQUAT THAN LET HOMES ROT"...WHAT DOES THE NEW LAW MEAN....I was explaining to a younger friend of mine what the new squatting law means to me. She was undecided as to whether it was a good thing with some many homeless people that she could see in Brighton.

I then went on to explain that I am buying my first house soon, with my hard earned cash - FROM WORKING FOR A LIVING - and if I left it vacant for a couple of weeks whilst renovating, the squatters could move in. They, the anarchistic (but still benefit claiming) non tax payers would trash it at a cost of thousands to me, the tax paying mug, and the police could do nothing really. I would be left to foot the cleanup/eviction bill.

Needless to say this persuaded her. Please spare me the responses that squatters enhance the buildings they live in... these cases are few and far between. Its hard enough to get a builder to do quality work, I don't think any squatters are going to enhance my property with pallet wood partitions, dangling bits of hemp and letting their dogs cr@p on my floor.

You suceeded in peddling a myth or two to your young friend then.
Squatters don't want to make others homeless, so they work out first what properties are genuinely empty and not about to be used.
It has been a criminal offence to displace residential occupiers and intending occupiers from their homes through squatting since the Criminal Law Act of 1977 (Section 7).
Acting under cover of protecting ‘homeowners’, the government have made it all the more 'ok' for the most anti-social of manifestations of property rights – the ‘right’ to keep properties empty.
There are 930,000 empty properties in the UK, properties overwelmingly being kept empty in search of higher profits later. It's been estimated that criminalising squatting will cost taxpayers £790 million over the next five years too, what with all the court action, extra policing etc.

redwing wrote:

Leon wrote:
"BETTER TO SQUAT THAN LET HOMES ROT"...WHAT DOES THE NEW LAW MEAN....I was explaining to a younger friend of mine what the new squatting law means to me. She was undecided as to whether it was a good thing with some many homeless people that she could see in Brighton.

I then went on to explain that I am buying my first house soon, with my hard earned cash - FROM WORKING FOR A LIVING - and if I left it vacant for a couple of weeks whilst renovating, the squatters could move in. They, the anarchistic (but still benefit claiming) non tax payers would trash it at a cost of thousands to me, the tax paying mug, and the police could do nothing really. I would be left to foot the cleanup/eviction bill.

Needless to say this persuaded her. Please spare me the responses that squatters enhance the buildings they live in... these cases are few and far between. Its hard enough to get a builder to do quality work, I don't think any squatters are going to enhance my property with pallet wood partitions, dangling bits of hemp and letting their dogs cr@p on my floor.

You suceeded in peddling a myth or two to your young friend then.
Squatters don't want to make others homeless, so they work out first what properties are genuinely empty and not about to be used.
It has been a criminal offence to displace residential occupiers and intending occupiers from their homes through squatting since the Criminal Law Act of 1977 (Section 7).
Acting under cover of protecting ‘homeowners’, the government have made it all the more 'ok' for the most anti-social of manifestations of property rights – the ‘right’ to keep properties empty.
There are 930,000 empty properties in the UK, properties overwelmingly being kept empty in search of higher profits later. It's been estimated that criminalising squatting will cost taxpayers £790 million over the next five years too, what with all the court action, extra policing etc.

Yawn......another post from a member of the something for nothing brigade.

Squatters are vermin & should be
exterminated. Come back Dr Who !!