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'This Arctic weather proves we need 4x4s'


They are known as the big, bad cars. Four-wheel drives have been branded a danger on our roads but in the current cold spell they are proving to be the only vehicle to cope with the snow and are providing a vital service in our communities. Alison Cridland reports.

Drivers of 4x4s are used to getting flak from environmentalists and other road users for being behind the wheel of gas-guzzlers.

But in the last few days these unpopular vehicles have been offering a vital service as Sussex struggles in Arctic weather.

As normal family saloons end up snowed in or stuck at the bottom of hills, off road vehicles are coping with the treacherous road conditions.

Emergency services are relying on 4x4s to reach incidents in areas where saloon cars cannot get to.

Owners of the vehicles have volunteered to transport doctors and nurses to and from their work at the Royal Sussex County Hospital, in Brighton, and the Princess Royal Hospital, at Haywards Heath.

A spokesman for the Princess Royal said: "They have been invaluable. We have had a really good response."

Volunteers with 4x4s are also helping to deliver Meals on Wheels.

Now 4x4 drivers are hoping the public may start to appreciate the benefits of their often maligned vehicles.

Keith Scott, 50, from Worthing, who is volunteering to help deliver meals on wheels in the town, said: "I am basically looking for someone to help."

He is keen that the public understand how useful the vehicles have been to the emergency services. He said: "I hope it might turn people's opinion around and they may get judged fairer."

Keith, a roofer with time to volunteer during the bad weather, has already been helping out pedestrians he sees struggling on the icy pavements with the offer of a lift.

The father-of-two, who drives a BMW x5, says he has become hardened against the criticism he gets for driving a 4x4 over the past seven years and puts it down to ignorance and jealousy.

He has had his vehicle scratched and keyed and three windows were smashed while it was parked on his driveway.

Another 4x4 fan, Martin Long, from Worthing, who drives a Landrover Defender, admits that his choice is out of pleasure more than necessity. He said: "It is an indulgence but in this weather it is really important and I can live an everyday life.

"They are magnificent in this weather."

He said he has helped many drivers whose cars are stuck in the snow while he is managing to get around. He said the obvious main advantage was the grip 4x4s have on the road.

He said: "It is still dangerous on the roads but you are able to do essential journeys and not get snowed in.

"Up and down hills I have almost normal capabilities."

Despite being fully aware of the arguments against off-road vehicles in urban areas, Martin describes himself as an environmentalist. He said: "It is not a matter of what you drive but the amount you drive."

The 4x4s have been the subject of campaigns by environmentalists who want them banned from city streets. Drivers have been urged to switch to smaller and more fuel-economic vehicles.

They are also accused of dominating the roads and being a danger to pedestrians and cyclists.

They are also dubbed the Chelsea Tractors, a disapproving term for the middle-class who drive the huge cars as a status symbol to pop to the shops or go on the school run in congested streets.

While no-one argues there is a place for 4x4s on farms in the heart of the countryside, the "mum trucks" are accused of being dangerous weapons polluting urban areas.

David Ede, who runs Maresfield Garage, near Uckfield, a specialist 4x4 sales and servicing centre, said the vehicles are proving vital during the icy weather, especially on rural roads.

He said: "People running around in their two-wheel drive family cars are getting stuck everywhere. They are relying on 4x4 drivers to offer their charitable service to tow them up the road."

He says they are practical, safe, strong and multi-purpose and he cannot understand the bad name they have gained over the years for being dirty and dangerous.

David, who drives a Landrover Defender, said he had heard of drivers in Sussex, particularly in Brighton, who have had rude stickers left on their windscreens branding their vehicles "dirty and unwanted."

He said: "There are a lot of people out there who are bloody-minded."

Even opponents have had to agree that 4x4s are proving useful.

Ian Davey, Brighton and Hove's Green Party transport spokesman, said: "It is great that some of the drivers are finding a good, positive use for them in these challenging conditions.

"I have heard they are going out helping essential services. It is absolutely fantastic and they have their role to play in circumstances like this."

He said the Green Party was concerned that they were not the most appropriate vehicle to drive around towns because of their size, fuel consumption and high carbon emissions.

He said: "They contribute to poor air quality in the city. That is a real concern to lots of people who live in the city."

Would you consider buying a 4x4 if more severe winters are here to stay? Tell us what you think below.


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Made In Sussex, Not Brighton says...
10:42am Tue 12 Jan 10

"Now 4x4 drivers are hoping the public may start to appreciate the benefits of their often maligned vehicles"
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4x4's may be a neccessary and invaluable tool for the emergency services in any conditions (not just snow).

However just because once in 30 years they happen to be useful does not somehow suddenley justify all their disadvantages, for the other 29 years they continue to be a pathetic status symbol for the vaccuous few..

Rock_UK, Hove says...
11:46am Tue 12 Jan 10

Well I've seen some farcical justifications in my time, but this beats the lot. Buy a 4x4 for something that happens once every 30 years; you can't be serious. Do people in Poland and Russia where winter snow is standard all drive around in 4x4s? No, of course not, they are a rarity. My partner is Polish, and they almost all drive 2 wheel drive, but they have snow tyres.

Thumper Hove, Hove says...
12:36pm Tue 12 Jan 10

Most 4x4s are driven by blind housewives ignoring traffic laws when picking up their spoilt brats from school. For a couple of days a year they be more useful, but only a tiny percentage of buyers thought about snow when they purchased them - it is purely about image.

Tye, Pembroke says...
1:19pm Tue 12 Jan 10

The Batty Green brigade really do have strange recollections - don't forget the term since records began
(in this case April 2009?) no one has needed a 4x4
I'd have been unable to get out of my street on and off for near 3 weeks, I needed it in March 2009, I've needed it for what seems like months on country roads with the floods and the standing water in the last few months - and the rest of the time - its automatic, its air conditioned and has been comfortable all year and does 30mpg without need for extracting chemicals from mines in the most beautiful places in Canada to make batteries for the Toyoata PIOUS!
So many of you come across as just having a chip on your shoulder - get over it and keep pointing out rubbish like climate change and the weather are completely different
I giuss with the weather as it is the scientists will soo change their minds and talk about global cooling again ;-)

hiphophappyhippy, Brighton says...
1:24pm Tue 12 Jan 10

what a rubbish news report

Tye, Pembroke says...
1:38pm Tue 12 Jan 10

After my fulsome praise iof 4X4s I'd just like to remind folks that 4x4s do NOT have more grip but they have more traction - Gordon Bennet, I'm turning into a pedant!

ssilkystone, brighton says...
5:29pm Tue 12 Jan 10

I can hear Managers up and down the country justifying the new company car having 4X4 with traction control, i should imagine the top brass at the council spending another £440000 pounds on its car park to raise the head room for there new 4X4s they'll no doubt want in case this happens again so they can be used to aid residents in need, then when it happens refuse to let the unwashed in for fear of damaging the carpets, how about small engined small 4x4s with traction control and no bull bars running on gas.

Big Nasty, says...
6:03pm Tue 12 Jan 10

No it doesn't it just proves people cant drive for toffee, when I used to live in a little place called Woodhall Spa in Lincolnshire we had a old Volvo 145 estate car that was rear wheel drive and we never used to have trouble getting anywhere in the snow and ice, it's quite simple really, winter tyres or snow chains!.

MKWirral, Wallasey says...
6:03pm Tue 12 Jan 10

How can anyone comment about the regularity of certain weather conditions, when the Earth's conditions are changing all the time.
This has nothing to do with Global Warming either, because the Earth is simply doing what it has been doing since it was created, namely going through periods of cooling and heating, nothing new there, and certainly nothing that could possibly be affected by mankind.
As for 4x4 usage. Why only consider it for freezing conditions? All the wet winters, that are supposed to soon be the norm, will be ideal conditions for their usage, and I speak from the position of never having owned one.
More of a concern to me is the number of ordinary cars that are owned by individual families. One of my neighbours has six vehicles, and only room for two on his drive. He lives with his wife and just one son!
He also moans about 4x4s!
What obscene hypocrisy!

kfirette, Hove says...
8:10pm Tue 12 Jan 10

WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH!!!! What we need is a council that uses our council tax correctly and GRITS roads and pavements to make it safe for the population to get around!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!

MKWirral, Wallasey says...
9:03pm Tue 12 Jan 10

kfirette wrote:
WHAT A LOAD OF RUBBISH!!!! What we need is a council that uses our council tax correctly and GRITS roads and pavements to make it safe for the population to get around!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!
What a load of Rubbish also!
What is needed is people to clear their own property fronts, as is required elsewhere in the civilised world, and not to be penalised by archaic laws of this country, which opens anyone who does so to prosecution, because we live in a health and safety run environment.
Do not moan, no, do not rant that others should do something, when you are the one who should be doing your own bit.

Saker-Clive, Brighton says...
10:24pm Tue 12 Jan 10

Further to my letter on Sunday, "Don't Tax 4x4's", I would like to point out that as a 4x4 owner I also use for the majority of the time a motor-cycle. Only in the wet and these conditions do I use my car to get about. I mainly use it for my falconry and shooting where obviously I do go 'off-road'.
On leaving work yesterday, I was behind a lady in a Toyota Land Cruiser; on traversing over a few back streets she lost control of it and began to slide (too much right foot) going into a bend. Then on recovering , mainly because she hit clear road by a junction on Elm Grove, she then proceeded up Elm Grove which is totally clear of snow and ice at 10mph!!!!!!! As much as I am for 4x4's, I wish people would learn to use them properly instead of thinking that because they are in one that is all that matters. I've seen others in part time' 4x4s, that are predominantly 2 wheel drive until you physically put it into 4 wheel drive, slipping and sliding as they probably don't know how to switch over to 4 wheels!!!

Rock_UK, Hove says...
9:03am Wed 13 Jan 10

Report from today's Argus:

"In Brighton the traffic lights at Victoria Road have failed after being hit by a 4x4. "

Ha ha ha!

So much for 4x4s

Jack Cade, Lewes says...
10:19am Wed 13 Jan 10

Yep. Seen 3 incidents today all caused by 4x4s loosing control. Why stop with 4x4s. If only we all had helicopters.

kraftwerker, Brighton says...
11:55am Wed 13 Jan 10

Most 4x4 drivers spend most of their time either on their mobiles, or one hand on the wheel, the other applying the lippy. And as for the women...

Saker-Clive, Brighton says...
1:00pm Wed 13 Jan 10

kraftwerker wrote:
Most 4x4 drivers spend most of their time either on their mobiles, or one hand on the wheel, the other applying the lippy. And as for the women...
no, they are the ones that give the main 4x4 owners the head aches. Those of us that use our vehicles properly not only use them off road but are courteous to road users as well. It is the affore mentioned that shouldn't have any car, let alone a 4x4.

The Idler, Peacehaven says...
1:47pm Wed 13 Jan 10

Funny that whenever you go near a school when it's pick to pick kids up you'll never see so many 4x4's in your life, so where are they all now?

Ronald Baker, Burlington, Ct. USA says...
4:34pm Wed 13 Jan 10

I'm from Brighton but have lived in the US for 25 years. I live at the top of a hill approx 1.2 miles long and the same grade as Bear Rd. I have front wheel drive only as does my wife. The differance is I am used to dealing with these conditions and keep good rubber on my wheels. 4X4's are not needed in my opinion unless you go off road. Not really an option needed for Brighton. I lived in Coldean and Woodingdean and got around just fine with rear wheel drive when I was there. 4x4's are just a status symbol as are a lot of things in the UK. Dont miss that stuff but still miss the decent beer !!!

Ronald Baker, Burlington, Ct. USA says...
4:39pm Wed 13 Jan 10

Edit above post. I had FRONT wheel drive then.

Mr. Kipling, Hove says...
5:43pm Wed 13 Jan 10

Saker-Clive wrote:
kraftwerker wrote:
Most 4x4 drivers spend most of their time either on their mobiles, or one hand on the wheel, the other applying the lippy. And as for the women...
no, they are the ones that give the main 4x4 owners the head aches. Those of us that use our vehicles properly not only use them off road but are courteous to road users as well. It is the affore mentioned that shouldn't have any car, let alone a 4x4.
I used to drive old Fords with rear wheel drive but like you say, good tyres, snow tyres when needed and proper control can work wonders. Also its a case of pulling away in as high a gear as possible and keeping revs LOW. In extreme cases removing a small amount of air from the tyres can increase the contact area and as a consequence, increase grip but the weather hasn't been that bad. As for any 4x4 I would buy, old school, all-mechanical Land Rovers are always an option. There were even a few 4x4 Ford capris...

Tye, Pembroke says...
6:55pm Wed 13 Jan 10

agree with Mr Kipling apart from the lower tyre pressure point - old wives tale!
Apparently from seing those people who try and drive on these news chanels surely the way to drive in cold weather is to wear only a t shirt, high heels if you're a gal, mobile phone thats bleeping "low battery", hardly any fuel and rev the engine within an inch of its life in 1st gear?
and then blame gordon brown!
(he's got a heck of a lot of things to be blamed for but not some peoples stupidity)

puddings3112, Hove says...
11:23pm Wed 13 Jan 10

the majority of 4x4's driven around the B&H area are useless in anything other than perfectly dry/normal wet conditions for two reasons
1) the tyres fitted are designed for standard road conditions to keep them quiet and allow them to be driven at high speeds on the motorway. These tyres are very similar in design to the tyre you would find on a BMW or other high performance car (with extra weight capabilities). They are not designed for mud/snow etc. Furthermore most modern tyres are wide meaning that the tyre 'floats' on top of the ice/compacted snow. A narrow tyre is needed so that the vehicle weight digs in to gain greater purchase (see older style land rover tyres or proper snow tyres)
2) lack of driving skill for dealing with the conditions - braking into corners, inappropriate speed, incorrect use of gear/rev combinations, too much distraction (radio/chatting to passengers/mobile phone/sat nav/the list goes on) and even a nice warm vehicle which disconnects the driver with the outside environment. While these all apply to any vehicle, the addition of four wheel drive makes some drivers believe that the laws of physics do not apply to them.

Tye, Pembroke says...
8:10am Thu 14 Jan 10

could we keep out of the argument about 4X4s the batty green boys hatered of anything that been proved to destroy the planet (jackanory, jackanory)and the oiks hatered of the image they are driven by people "considerably richar than yew"
chips on shoulders are so distasteful especially as we have run out of salt

D Merrett, East Sussex says...
12:21pm Thu 14 Jan 10

More hot air....the Argus "live as I tell you to live" There is nothing wrong with people choosing 4x4 for their lifestyle. There is something wrong with the arm-chair brigade who insist on telling others how to live. That's how wars started!!!!

Thumper Hove, Hove says...
2:28pm Thu 14 Jan 10

Tye wrote:
could we keep out of the argument about 4X4s the batty green boys hatered of anything that been proved to destroy the planet (jackanory, jackanory)and the oiks hatered of the image they are driven by people "considerably richar than yew" chips on shoulders are so distasteful especially as we have run out of salt
Does anyone have a translation of this?

She-Ra, Princess Of Power, Brighton says...
4:32pm Thu 14 Jan 10

Good lord. Well I for one certainly won't be dumping my car for a chelsea tractor any time soon.

What we NEED is not a huge load of 4x4s. What we need is better driving skills and winter tyres/snow chains. What we need is drivers willing to adapt and learn and not sitting on their bottoms moaning about it. If people want to use 4x4s then that's totally their choice, but I don't believe every driver needs a stonking great landrover/bmw to get around in a few inches of snow.

There's no reason other vehicles can't get about with the right equipment - you only have to look at the other countries that have snow for weeks, months on end to realise that.

Yes, it's most likely very handy for the emergency services to have them, but that's part of their kit like an ambulance or fire engine.

The ordinary person does not need a 4x4 to get around in the two weeks of severe cold weather that comes along once every 30/40 years. In my humble opinion!

catflea, Brighton says...
7:38pm Thu 14 Jan 10

I'm sorry, but this article is truly laughable. I will make it quite clear that I have no problems whatsoever with 4x4's, however this article does seem to be blowing smoke up the proverbial backsides of drivers of 4x4s.

If you have a modicum of driving nous its more than possible to drive safely and make progress in the weather we've been having regardless of the vehicle you drive (Ok, a Reliant Robin might be a bit tricky!)

None of my family have 4x4s (I have a metro and theres a saab and an escort in the household) and none of us have had difficulties getting around! I've actually been using my car more as the trains havn't been running!

Tye, Pembroke says...
9:28pm Thu 14 Jan 10

Thumper Hove wrote:
Tye wrote: could we keep out of the argument about 4X4s the batty green boys hatered of anything that been proved to destroy the planet (jackanory, jackanory)and the oiks hatered of the image they are driven by people "considerably richar than yew" chips on shoulders are so distasteful especially as we have run out of salt
Does anyone have a translation of this?
Try babelfish

BringBackGoodGrammar, The Posh part of Hove says...
10:39pm Thu 14 Jan 10

Tye wrote:
Thumper Hove wrote:
Tye wrote: could we keep out of the argument about 4X4s the batty green boys hatered of anything that been proved to destroy the planet (jackanory, jackanory)and the oiks hatered of the image they are driven by people "considerably richar than yew" chips on shoulders are so distasteful especially as we have run out of salt
Does anyone have a translation of this?
Try babelfish
try stepping away from the lambrini

Old Ladys Gin, Shoreham says...
12:21pm Sat 16 Jan 10

Of the vehicles I saw abandoned on roads there was a smattering of all types, 4x4s included.
There are a fair few 4 wheel drive saloon cars as well, not all are large.
Best performance I saw in the snow? A Citroen 2cv that was fairly sailing along, plus a Nissan Micra driven by an elderly lady that left everything in its' wake.
I reckon it is how it is drive, not necessarily what it is.

Old Ladys Gin, Shoreham says...
12:21pm Sat 16 Jan 10

Of the vehicles I saw abandoned on roads there was a smattering of all types, 4x4s included.
There are a fair few 4 wheel drive saloon cars as well, not all are large.
Best performance I saw in the snow? A Citroen 2cv that was fairly sailing along, plus a Nissan Micra driven by an elderly lady that left everything in its' wake.
I reckon it is how it is driven, not necessarily what it is.
(sent twice because of snow bound spelling)..

AngieRS, Brighton says...
12:36pm Sat 16 Jan 10

Oh well, if there's no use for 4x4s then perhaps we should get the army to sell off all their 4x4 landies, trucks and what have you, they've obviously got it all wrong. As for snow chains, they are only any use for driving on unsalted roads with deep snow. Just how many people are going to put them on, drive the hundred yards or so to the first treated main road, take them all off, go and get their 20 fags and paper, drive back to their untreated road and then put the chains back on, that's if we do have any deep snow that warrants snow chains. Answer? Not one person. The same applies to winter tyres using metal studs for grip which are only of any use on packed ice. As for this nonsense about bad winters every thirty years, I seem to recall we had a bad winter at the start of 2009. Torrential rain in others. Went awfully quick, that thirty years. So yes, it would appear that 4x4s are the most appropriate vehicle to use in the recent bad weather. Yes, yes, I know it's a hard thing to swallow but just lie back and think of something else to whine about. And by the way, it was Ford Sierras that had permanent 4x4 drive fitted, not Capris and that was only one model of that Mark. Oh, one more thing, narrow tyres are totally useless in snow or mud, otherwise all the four wheel drives in the armed services would be fitted with them. The idea is that the wider the tyre the less pressure is applied to the ground so you can drive over, not into it. It's not just about grip.

voiceofthescoombe, brighton says...
1:32pm Sat 16 Jan 10

so for a bit of bad weather we have to put up with 50 weeks of bad driving in a huge truck thing thats not really designed for the roads of brighton.
fine if you live out in the sticks don't really need a humvee for the school run.
learn to drive properly take it easy or don't drive if the weather is too bad.

pollykins, southwick says...
4:45pm Sat 16 Jan 10

Here we go again!! I am one of the planet killers that owns a 4x4. My car generally goes out with all seven seats occupied, its used for towing, its good on muddy campsites etc, but best of all. I bought it because I wanted one! Its alright to have seven small planet friendly cars driving around with only a driver sat in it, but have ONE 4x4 thats actually carrying people? and all of a sudden the owner becomes some kind of urban terrorist. GET A LIFE you sad people. stop having a go at us. If you want to snipe at someone? have a go at Gordon Browns government!

twosugars, seaford says...
5:46pm Sat 16 Jan 10

AngieRS wrote:
Oh well, if there's no use for 4x4s then perhaps we should get the army to sell off all their 4x4 landies, trucks and what have you, they've obviously got it all wrong. As for snow chains, they are only any use for driving on unsalted roads with deep snow. Just how many people are going to put them on, drive the hundred yards or so to the first treated main road, take them all off, go and get their 20 fags and paper, drive back to their untreated road and then put the chains back on, that's if we do have any deep snow that warrants snow chains. Answer? Not one person. The same applies to winter tyres using metal studs for grip which are only of any use on packed ice. As for this nonsense about bad winters every thirty years, I seem to recall we had a bad winter at the start of 2009. Torrential rain in others. Went awfully quick, that thirty years. So yes, it would appear that 4x4s are the most appropriate vehicle to use in the recent bad weather. Yes, yes, I know it's a hard thing to swallow but just lie back and think of something else to whine about. And by the way, it was Ford Sierras that had permanent 4x4 drive fitted, not Capris and that was only one model of that Mark. Oh, one more thing, narrow tyres are totally useless in snow or mud, otherwise all the four wheel drives in the armed services would be fitted with them. The idea is that the wider the tyre the less pressure is applied to the ground so you can drive over, not into it. It's not just about grip.
Hmmm. best not use snow chains in brighton and hove.

during the recent snow and icy weather, the council virtually wrote off the people of Hollingdean, Woodingdean etc. No gritters, No ploughs, No nothing.

Brighton & Hove buses used coaches with snow chains fitted to at least TRY and give the residents of these estates some resemblence of a service to get them to and from work, shops etc.

The coaches did not come into the town center but stayed on the estates where the snow / ice was thick and the chains would not damage the tarmac underneath.

now the best bit!

Now the ice has all melted and revealed the pot holes underneath, the council are blaming the coaches/ snowchains for "breaking up the roads and causing potholes" and are thinking of trying to recover the cost of repairs from the bus company!!!

If the council had done their job right in the first place (they knew the snow was coming) and gritted the bus routes properly the coaches would not have been needed.

The potholes were there long before the snow fell but it seems the council needs someone to blame for their shoddy so-called "repairs"

Looks like the bus company should have said "tough luck, you're on your own" to the hill top residents just like the council did.

off topic rant over! :-)

Tye, Pembroke says...
7:07pm Sat 16 Jan 10

people - why do some of you claim that all 4x4 drivers are bad drivers and then try and justify having them banned - I've seen plenty of cyclists in town and I've never asked for them to be banned - not even insisted they be insured, taxed and given a number plate so that when THEY run pedestrians down on the pavements they can be identified and retribution and remuneration can take place

Dave in Hastings, Hastings says...
9:54pm Sat 16 Jan 10

Ridiculous article. As many on here have pointed out, what is needed is snow tyres/chains, and also to teach people how to drive in ice and snow.
As for the insulting oiks like 'Tye' - greens are not batty matey. Stop insulting people and USE SOME FACTS TO SUPPORT THE CR@P THAT YOU SPOUT!

sup, says...
11:28am Sun 17 Jan 10

Just get Snow Tyres then you have control dick heads

jon s, Glasgow says...
11:37am Sun 17 Jan 10

Made In Sussex wrote:
"Now 4x4 drivers are hoping the public may start to appreciate the benefits of their often maligned vehicles" - 4x4's may be a neccessary and invaluable tool for the emergency services in any conditions (not just snow). However just because once in 30 years they happen to be useful does not somehow suddenley justify all their disadvantages, for the other 29 years they continue to be a pathetic status symbol for the vaccuous few..
I don't have a 4x4,but not everyone who lives in the UK enjoys the mild climate you get on the south coast.
ps.if you're going to describe 4x4 drivers as vacuous,you might at least have spelt it properly.

Bruce A Smith, Brighton, Sussex says...
7:40pm Sun 17 Jan 10

I am impressed by Keith Scott's having actually helped struggling pedestrians. Frankly, this is almost unheard-of behaviour from any car driver -- most will happily flash past you whatever your difficulty. Here's hoping this catches on, and not just in snowy conditions!

King from Hove, Hove says...
10:31am Mon 18 Jan 10

4x4 cars should be given min 50% discounts on their taxes and reduced insurance.Safer.

Mr Lahey, Sunnyvale says...
1:50pm Mon 18 Jan 10

if you need a 4x4 for 10 days out of 365, does that mean we also need a hosepipe ban for the whole year ?

LovelyBoyRuss, Peacehaven says...
9:54am Tue 19 Jan 10

Don't feed the trolls.

JohnDeHaura, Shoreham says...
2:06am Tue 2 Feb 10

Such a pity that people today can't use their ultimate 4x4 system; It's called your legs.

Please let's all try and use them!

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