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Brighton Pavilion returns Caroline Lucas as UK's first Green MP

VICTORY: Caroline Lucas just after the result was announced at the Brighton Centre VICTORY: Caroline Lucas just after the result was announced at the Brighton Centre

Caroline Lucas became Britain's first Green Party MP after winning the Brighton Pavilion seat.

With 16,238 votes, she beat Labour's Nancy Platts into second place, and the Conservative candidate Charlotte Vere into third.

The result was first announced on our liveblog, which you can read at the bottom of this story.

The Argus is producing a special election edition to mark this historic event, which will be available in these shops from about 11am this morning.

Have your say about Caroline Lucas's victory and the rest of the Sussex results in the comments below.

After the results were announced, Ms Lucas said: "Today the people of Brighton Pavilion have made history by electing Britain's first Green MP to Westminster.

"Thank you so much for putting the politics of hope above the politics of fear and I pledge that I will do my very best to do you proud.

"For once the word historic fits the bill."

She told The Argus: "“The emphatic support of the people of Brighton Pavilion has shown that they are prepared to put their trust in the Greens.

“I feel humbled by their trust in me and am looking forward to the challenging task of representing the people of Brighton Pavilion as their MP."

Meanwhile, Mike Weatherley and Simon Kirby took Hove and Brighton Kempton respectively for the Tories.

This means Labour lost not only all their Brighton and Hove seats, but with the loss of Crawley and Hastings & Rye they have no seats left in Sussex.

Click here for a full list of constituency results - as of 6.10am, only Worthing East and Worthing West are left to come in.

Comments(130)

Bennn says...
6:17am Fri 7 May 10

It's on days like today that I feel proud to live in Brighton. Well done Ms Lucas!

poups says...
6:35am Fri 7 May 10

Brilliant - makes me proud to be a Brightonian.

TheInsider says...
6:48am Fri 7 May 10

This lady is not in my constituency, but she is a very hard-working politician so the people of the Pavilion are very lucky.
Not sure the people of Kemptown have got a good deal with Kirby. I am not sure a multi-millionaire with kids at private school, who dropped his double barrelled name in the hope of sounding more ordinary, can really understand the challenges ordinary families face. I am still trying to find out if he uses the NHS or goes private.

Tye says...
6:49am Fri 7 May 10

try again - won't bother too much as the initials B n p when put together throws me out of the argus web site - as someone who watched nearly all the declarations last night that party which I am not allowed to mention and the monster raving loonies usually beat the greens

Kevin1978 says...
6:57am Fri 7 May 10

Her victory is down to the thousands of students in Brighton Pavillion voting for her. How ironic that we now have an MP who doesn't serve the real interests of the permanent residents of this constituency. The majority of residents in the suburbs have no interest in her ideas whatsoever. The roving voters of the centre, who have no legitimacy here, continue to strangle Brighton Pavillion.

Bennn says...
7:14am Fri 7 May 10

TheInsider wrote:
This lady is not in my constituency, but she is a very hard-working politician so the people of the Pavilion are very lucky.
Not sure the people of Kemptown have got a good deal with Kirby. I am not sure a multi-millionaire with kids at private school, who dropped his double barrelled name in the hope of sounding more ordinary, can really understand the challenges ordinary families face. I am still trying to find out if he uses the NHS or goes private.
I agree. I really thought that Simon Burgess would get in. I can't believe Kirby has just been elected. He was invisible around Kemptown and is lucky that Brighton Kemptown includes places like Rottingdean and Peacehaven.

longman says...
7:16am Fri 7 May 10

Well done Caroline Lucas, you deserved this win.

Bobfm says...
7:40am Fri 7 May 10

Whilst from outside the area, I have been following this Constituency very closely. There is no doubt in my mind this is election by the BBC.

Caroline Lucas has had a totally disproportionate amount of media time, using the excuse she is the Leader of the Greens, a Green MEP, and of course a Green PPC (now MP).

Lets hope for the sake of the Brighton people that she doesn't carry out her policies, you will all be riding bikes, banned from going on holiday by plane, she will hand over the pound to the Euro and much more.

Congratulations to Caroline, she is the ultimate professional politician, the same attributes necessary to be a Con Man or Woman.

jeremy radvan says...
8:10am Fri 7 May 10

I bet the organic carrot juice flowed last night.

prestonrevoltII says...
8:14am Fri 7 May 10

Brighton is knackered now this money grabbing fat cat got in 2000 brighton residents must be blind to the reality that the green party will damage the development and progress of this city

Why did David Lepper have to retire...

Patrick Mustard says...
8:43am Fri 7 May 10

Kevin1978 wrote:
Her victory is down to the thousands of students in Brighton Pavillion voting for her. How ironic that we now have an MP who doesn't serve the real interests of the permanent residents of this constituency. The majority of residents in the suburbs have no interest in her ideas whatsoever. The roving voters of the centre, who have no legitimacy here, continue to strangle Brighton Pavillion.
Absolutely. I knew there were a lot of idealist student morons in this part of the city but didn't realise that they could be quite so shortsighted. I am surprised they managed to put down their spliffs for long enough to get out and vote.

CliveA says...
8:58am Fri 7 May 10

Bobfm says: "you will all be riding bikes".


Crikey Bob. Can you imagine anything more dreadful?

acdcvelocity says...
9:12am Fri 7 May 10

What has happened is that Labour have well and truly lost their government power over the UK which is wonderful news. As for Brown, he will be gone within a week and not a moment too soon. Cameron will be the Prime Minister but at a price of concession to the Lib Dems and Others. This might work but I suspect a new election will happen within 12 months.

Gaz the great says...
9:13am Fri 7 May 10

A very sad day for Brighton! This party is for tree hugging nutters only!

greegster says...
9:13am Fri 7 May 10

This result typifies what happens when everyone males the mistake of trying to waste their vote.Now,get out your cars and get on the bus.

greegster says...
9:14am Fri 7 May 10

greegster wrote:
This result typifies what happens when everyone males the mistake of trying to waste their vote.Now,get out your cars and get on the bus.
This result typifies what happens when everyone makes the mistake of trying to waste their vote.Now,get out your cars and get on the bus.

PaulOckenden says...
9:20am Fri 7 May 10

Although I don't support the Greens, I know some people that do, and they've been putting in a lot of work over the past few weeks to secure this result, so well done to them.

Congratulations to The Argus too - it must feel nice to have a story that isn't a fire or a car crash.

Andy R says...
9:24am Fri 7 May 10

CliveA wrote:
Bobfm says: "you will all be riding bikes". Crikey Bob. Can you imagine anything more dreadful?
Oh it's worse than that. According to some people posting here, the Greens will "have us all living in caves" (what caves would those be?), and they will "ban the motor car". Oh, and I almost forgot, they are going to murder all the 4X4 drivers in their beds this weekend.

It was great to be there last night cheering while the pro-big business parties scowled, and I am already enjoying reading the sour-grapes comments from the usual suspects on here (many of whom were as late as yesterday afternoon assuring us that Lucas had no chance).

So now we're told it's all because of the students...no it's not...it's the BBC! Desperate, desperate stuff....

I Can See the Sea! says...
9:31am Fri 7 May 10

As a non-student I was very happy to vote for Caroline Lucas as she is an intelligent, hard-working person who always seemed to give straight answers (not very politician-like!)

kevin1978: If you want her to serve your interests why not go and see her at one of her surgeries? And if you want an electoral system that better serves people's voting you might want to campaign for a transferable vote polling system. Or you could just moan on a web forum...

Nyberg says...
9:33am Fri 7 May 10

Everyone has missed the point entirely. At least Charlotte Vere DIDN'T get elected. That is far and away the most important thing.

contentedmummy says...
9:35am Fri 7 May 10

Patrick Mustard wrote:
Kevin1978 wrote: Her victory is down to the thousands of students in Brighton Pavillion voting for her. How ironic that we now have an MP who doesn't serve the real interests of the permanent residents of this constituency. The majority of residents in the suburbs have no interest in her ideas whatsoever. The roving voters of the centre, who have no legitimacy here, continue to strangle Brighton Pavillion.
Absolutely. I knew there were a lot of idealist student morons in this part of the city but didn't realise that they could be quite so shortsighted. I am surprised they managed to put down their spliffs for long enough to get out and vote.
Not sure where you've got your info from? My experience of canvassing was that many students weren't registered to vote in Brighton P. Plus many of them were so impressed with Clegg on the leaders debates they were planning on voting yellow. The Green voters I spoke to yesterday were from all walks of life. This result proves what can be done with committed, hard-working party volunteers gaining over 7000 votes since the last election to get in. That's a job well done.

ladwebslinger says...
9:44am Fri 7 May 10

Wonderful news for Brighton. I'm not s student, I don't like carrot juice, nor, tree-hugging and I've been known to take an aeroplane. But I voted (and campaigned for CL) because I DO like: equality, fairness (rise in pensions and minimum wage) and policies that think not of a select few but of the entire planet. Well done Caroline, and well done Brighton!

Nyberg says...
9:45am Fri 7 May 10

acdcvelocity wrote:
What has happened is that Labour have well and truly lost their government power over the UK which is wonderful news. As for Brown, he will be gone within a week and not a moment too soon. Cameron will be the Prime Minister but at a price of concession to the Lib Dems and Others. This might work but I suspect a new election will happen within 12 months.
There is still the possibility that the Lib Dems may ally themselves with Labour. No one can be sure until all the results are in and we know the numbers for certain. But at the moment it is quite possible that a Lib/Lab alliance could deny Cameron victory.
We'll have to wait and see.

Brighton Steve says...
9:54am Fri 7 May 10

Brilliant news!
Now we have an impressive MP who'll stand up for Brighton and whowill fight to make this city a greener and fairer place.

jeremy radvan says...
9:54am Fri 7 May 10

ladwebslinger wrote:
Wonderful news for Brighton. I'm not s student, I don't like carrot juice, nor, tree-hugging and I've been known to take an aeroplane. But I voted (and campaigned for CL) because I DO like: equality, fairness (rise in pensions and minimum wage) and policies that think not of a select few but of the entire planet. Well done Caroline, and well done Brighton!
I think a sense of proportion is called for here. You have voted for one candidate who was lucky enough to be elected on a tiny majority. Congratulations to the Green Party and well done Ms Lucas, but you have not elected someone who will have the slightest influence on national policy.

Spanners says...
9:58am Fri 7 May 10

contentedmummy wrote:
Patrick Mustard wrote:
Kevin1978 wrote: Her victory is down to the thousands of students in Brighton Pavillion voting for her. How ironic that we now have an MP who doesn't serve the real interests of the permanent residents of this constituency. The majority of residents in the suburbs have no interest in her ideas whatsoever. The roving voters of the centre, who have no legitimacy here, continue to strangle Brighton Pavillion.
Absolutely. I knew there were a lot of idealist student morons in this part of the city but didn't realise that they could be quite so shortsighted. I am surprised they managed to put down their spliffs for long enough to get out and vote.
Not sure where you've got your info from? My experience of canvassing was that many students weren't registered to vote in Brighton P. Plus many of them were so impressed with Clegg on the leaders debates they were planning on voting yellow. The Green voters I spoke to yesterday were from all walks of life. This result proves what can be done with committed, hard-working party volunteers gaining over 7000 votes since the last election to get in. That's a job well done.
Absolutley agree - for example many people at my place of work voted for her across a range of ages and backgrounds. I fully reject the idea that it was all down to students.. As I live in Hove i did not vote for her but she is a hard working politician and not just a "tree-hugger" as other's rather outdated impression of the Green party (parties can change - just look at Labour!). Personally, I would not want a Green majority in government but one Green MP in pariliament can only be a good thing. Those who say the B*P would be better scare me

ladwebslinger says...
10:05am Fri 7 May 10

Jeremy says, "you have not elected someone who will have the slightest influence on national policy.'' In the context of a hung parliament this is patently not true. Moreover, CL will make an excellent local MP. Sometimes you have to go with your principles, not just consider how it will affect the national picture. And the people of Brighton Pavilion have proven they are principled, and did not succumb to the politics of fear.

Nyberg says...
10:16am Fri 7 May 10

Mrb-side wrote:
Bennn wrote: It's on days like today that I feel proud to live in Brighton. Well done Ms Lucas!
You lot are off your heads if you think this is a good thing!! Tree Hugging, Spliff smoking wastes of space!! B * P would be a better vote for an area that is over run with immigrants that take the majority of council houses etc and leave Brightonians who have children and can be bothered to work having to rent privately..... Oh thats right we're green now, lets camp in the level!! Joke
'Over run with immigrants'. Get a sense of proportion.
'take the majority of council houses'. No they don't.
Those two ludicrous and untrue statements mark you down as a racist. And a stupid racist at that.

Angryoldman says...
10:17am Fri 7 May 10

Its a shame about Simon Burgess.
Thank God we dont have a Tory government.
Lets hope we can make Brighton a plastic carrier bag free city. Biodegradable bags only please. Plastic is poisoning the oceans and billions of them are in landfills.

HJarrs says...
10:34am Fri 7 May 10

In Brighton Pavilion we were so lucky that we could finally vote for the candidate of our choice (whoever that might have been), rather than tactically. Even so, I met many Green Party supporters that were voting Labour in order to keep the conservatives out. Around the country, pretty much all my friends voted tactically for other parties when they would have otherwise voted green under a fairer voting system. I think the voters of Brighton Pavilion should be congratulated for putting their values first.

RoddyG says...
10:43am Fri 7 May 10

The Greens went backwards in Hove and Kemptown. Is Lucas a one trick pony for them?

Old Dog says...
10:46am Fri 7 May 10

Interesting eh? South of England predominently blue. The immigrant and benefit culture enclaves who've done very well out of Labour thank you, all red and 'up north'. Scotland, who have done extremely well thanks to the Scotsmen at Westminster almost totally red!

HJarrs says...
11:12am Fri 7 May 10

RoddyG wrote:
The Greens went backwards in Hove and Kemptown. Is Lucas a one trick pony for them?
Last night I talked to several green party members and supporters who live in Kemptown and Hove. They had voted Labour to unsuccessfully keep the conservative candidates out. Unfortunately our voting system makes it almost impossible for the candidates of smaller parties to break through or show their true support, which makes the election of Caroline Lucas all the more remarkable.

Bobfm says...
11:31am Fri 7 May 10

Interesting so the party of integrity the Greens were voting Labour to keep the Tories out. There's integrity for you.

At least in Swindon they were where they belonged, at the bottom of the pile. Well it is good for the garden.

So how many wind-turbines are Brighton going to accept, you know it makes sense to give the power companies £500k (that would be foreign owned companies from Caroline's favourite EU) per turbine and 43p/kwh to be green. Never mind it will push up domestic bills by 30%.

miriamy says...
11:53am Fri 7 May 10

Dear voters of Brighton Pavilion
Thankyou for your courage, wisdom and thoughtful decision to vote for a Green Party candidate. You have given the country the opportunity to find out what a Green Party MP is like and what policies and values we believe in and want to work for. Many people have already condemned you for thinking about voting green and many people see it as a wasted vote. You know and many of us around the country already know that voting green is an enkightened decision. It is a vote for a better and more positive future. Thankyou for giving us all this chance.

Bennn says...
11:57am Fri 7 May 10

Our pleasure miriamy. Thank you for your kind message.

PeteBrighton says...
12:35pm Fri 7 May 10

Great! No more Charlotte Vere. She should now get out of Brighton which she only came to for the seat, no roots and take the minority Tory Council with her.

Anna10 says...
12:44pm Fri 7 May 10

Proud of Brighton for making history - a great reflection of the forward thinking and diverse city we live in. Well done Caroline - here's to a long history of success for The Greens in Brighton and beyond. I live in Hove - where sadly the majority is Tory's...lets strengthen the Green presence in all districts of our city.

HoveAlone says...
12:45pm Fri 7 May 10

What an absolute waste of a vote. This is typical of thicko bohemian Brighton which is why I will never live there, and have a very low opinion of the place. What a joke Brighton, you should be ashamed of yourself to have voted for a party that has no real credibility in goverment.

Thank god I live in Hove and thank god the lefties are well and truly out of our town! Now all we need to do is seperate from this silly council so we can leave 'Green Brighton' well and truly sinking.

virtuoso says...
12:54pm Fri 7 May 10

It's just been a vote for Caroline Lucas as a "celebrity". Brighton likes celebrities. Elsewhere in B&H the two Green candidates LOST their share of the vote. So there was NOT any vote in favour Green Party policies - only a vote for that quite attractive woman, who's very often on the telly.

roast says...
1:02pm Fri 7 May 10

I wouldn’t worry, I doubt one seat will have any impact, total waste of a vote.
Well done Brighton for electing a pointless party.

DoWeHavTo says...
1:06pm Fri 7 May 10

Will she now resign as an MEP?

I don't see how she can serve constituency members in Europe and Westminster.

Bennn says...
1:18pm Fri 7 May 10

roast wrote:
I wouldn’t worry, I doubt one seat will have any impact, total waste of a vote. Well done Brighton for electing a pointless party.
Oh because one extra Labour or Tory MP would have made a hell of a difference wouldn't it! Instead of having 256 MPs or whatever they would have 257. Big deal. Caroline Lucas will be a different and precious voice. From Montreal to Paris loads of international newspapers are talking about her victory. She has really put Brighton on the map.

spanzo says...
1:33pm Fri 7 May 10

Well done Caroline, you really deserve this and I'm sure you're going to make a great impact in Westminster.

It makes me proud to live in a place where large numbers of people think seriously, compassionately and hopefully about the future.

jeremy radvan says...
1:53pm Fri 7 May 10

ladwebslinger wrote:
Jeremy says, "you have not elected someone who will have the slightest influence on national policy.'' In the context of a hung parliament this is patently not true. Moreover, CL will make an excellent local MP. Sometimes you have to go with your principles, not just consider how it will affect the national picture. And the people of Brighton Pavilion have proven they are principled, and did not succumb to the politics of fear.
I was simply asking for a sense of proportion.
I am also sure that she will make a fine local MP and I respect the principles that informed her voters.
But with the huge issues already facing the incoming government it is not the case that one, solitary mp will be able to influence national policy.
She will be a voice for her interest group but don't expect her to save the planet or remodel our society.

Andy R says...
2:04pm Fri 7 May 10

HoveAlone wrote:
What an absolute waste of a vote. This is typical of thicko bohemian Brighton which is why I will never live there, and have a very low opinion of the place. What a joke Brighton, you should be ashamed of yourself to have voted for a party that has no real credibility in goverment. Thank god I live in Hove and thank god the lefties are well and truly out of our town! Now all we need to do is seperate from this silly council so we can leave 'Green Brighton' well and truly sinking.
Who appointed you spokesman for the people of Hove all of a sudden? I think you'll find that while you were looking down your tweedy nose, Hove was actually losing the twinset and pearls and moving into the 21st century.

Hove wouldn't last five minutes as a separate entity. It would be swallowed up by a county council (most probably WSCC, run from Chichester!) or become volume 3 of the Adur-Worthing conglomerate.

If you think there is such support for "Hove Alone" why don't you stand for the council next year on that platform. That's what the Greens did - stopped whining and put their money where their mouth was. Yesterday's result was their reward. Are you up to it?

C. Nyle says...
2:13pm Fri 7 May 10

Interested in who voted for Ms Lucas?
Yesterday I saw a large 4x4 jeep parked on the grass verge in a side road off Dyke Road. A poster displayed in the window read "Vote Green"!

Ironic or just ignorant?

Granny says...
2:22pm Fri 7 May 10

I have read the cr*p comment from HoveAlone and with opinions like that I am not too sure that we Brighton residents would want him or her to live here either!!!!! Incidentally, does the new Green MP live locally or does she visit regularly like bibble?

Spanners says...
3:23pm Fri 7 May 10

Granny wrote:
I have read the cr*p comment from HoveAlone and with opinions like that I am not too sure that we Brighton residents would want him or her to live here either!!!!! Incidentally, does the new Green MP live locally or does she visit regularly like bibble?
Yes Granny, she lives in Marlborough Street according to several sources (including the Argus).

HoveAlone - with that sort of attitude you probrably are/will be. Do you honestly think that Hove could support all it's residents on it's own. Where are the jobs for one? Actually I don't even want to go down this road with you. It's such a no-brainer and a daft idea that I'll end up feeling like I'm trying to educate a brick wall. Agree with Andy R - why don't you stand and Hove will show you some sense

Rocker says...
3:27pm Fri 7 May 10

Yeah!

The old parties,with their sense of entitlement,have been brushed aside!

I'm sure CL will make a difference,in many ways.

Onwards and upwards!

virtuoso says...
4:05pm Fri 7 May 10

@Rocker. The Green Party nationally has taken 284,566 votes, which is under 1 per cent of the total of the 29,598,381 cast. The Greens' total vote was also DOWN from the last General Election. So you are so deluded that the Greens have brushed "the old parties" aside.

RoddyG says...
4:25pm Fri 7 May 10

virtuoso makes a very good point. Behind the good news for the Greens in BP, the truth is that they are an irrelevance nationally. If there is a second election soon this Tory will support Labour to get Lucas out. She may not be smiling for long!

brightonboy1968 says...
4:29pm Fri 7 May 10

Er, just wondered; is this the same Carolyn Lucas who has publicly gone on record as saying that any kind of border control or cap on immigration is (quote) 'Fascist" (unquote)?

Heisheshui says...
4:37pm Fri 7 May 10

'We're doomed I tell ya, we're doomed' !!!!

acdcvelocity says...
4:51pm Fri 7 May 10

Nyberg wrote:
Mrb-side wrote:
Bennn wrote: It's on days like today that I feel proud to live in Brighton. Well done Ms Lucas!
You lot are off your heads if you think this is a good thing!! Tree Hugging, Spliff smoking wastes of space!! B * P would be a better vote for an area that is over run with immigrants that take the majority of council houses etc and leave Brightonians who have children and can be bothered to work having to rent privately..... Oh thats right we're green now, lets camp in the level!! Joke
'Over run with immigrants'. Get a sense of proportion.
'take the majority of council houses'. No they don't.
Those two ludicrous and untrue statements mark you down as a racist. And a stupid racist at that.
Please do shut it with your bigoted views on other people's opinions!

HoveAlone says...
4:53pm Fri 7 May 10

Spanners wrote:
Granny wrote: I have read the cr*p comment from HoveAlone and with opinions like that I am not too sure that we Brighton residents would want him or her to live here either!!!!! Incidentally, does the new Green MP live locally or does she visit regularly like bibble?
Yes Granny, she lives in Marlborough Street according to several sources (including the Argus). HoveAlone - with that sort of attitude you probrably are/will be. Do you honestly think that Hove could support all it's residents on it's own. Where are the jobs for one? Actually I don't even want to go down this road with you. It's such a no-brainer and a daft idea that I'll end up feeling like I'm trying to educate a brick wall. Agree with Andy R - why don't you stand and Hove will show you some sense
Erm, obviously you haven't been in the area for longer that 13 years then? Hove had it's own council namely 'Hove Borough Council' that looked after the needs of our town without interference from 'Blighton'. East Sussex County Council looked after higher tier functions such as education, social services etc.

It worked perfectly and suited Hove down to the ground. When local government was reformed in th mid nineties, Hove vehmently protested against the merger with Brighton.

So how can you say that Hove can't look after itself when it did so quite successfully for over 100 years???

acdcvelocity says...
4:55pm Fri 7 May 10

PeteBrighton wrote:
Great! No more Charlotte Vere. She should now get out of Brighton which she only came to for the seat, no roots and take the minority Tory Council with her.
And that includes all the socialist roving rabble that continually set up camp here. Leave and take your filthy politics with you.

stan bailey says...
4:58pm Fri 7 May 10

miriamy wrote:
Dear voters of Brighton Pavilion
Thankyou for your courage, wisdom and thoughtful decision to vote for a Green Party candidate. You have given the country the opportunity to find out what a Green Party MP is like and what policies and values we believe in and want to work for. Many people have already condemned you for thinking about voting green and many people see it as a wasted vote. You know and many of us around the country already know that voting green is an enkightened decision. It is a vote for a better and more positive future. Thankyou for giving us all this chance.
Actually if you add up all those who voted, more didn't vote for her than did

tsimpkins says...
5:01pm Fri 7 May 10

Chocolate tea pot comes to mind.

Warren C says...
5:10pm Fri 7 May 10

Well i would have voted Green but what's the point with our first past the post system. They had no chance in Kemptown, and I would rather have a Labour MP than the Tory one we have got whose wealth and lifestyle will no doubt represent me and others who live in Moulsecoomb.

Lady Smith says...
5:29pm Fri 7 May 10

I am devastated that a) I don't live in Pavilion, so that I could vote for Caroline and help make history and b) I live in the constituency of Kemptown, which is obviously full of morons who voted for a Tory outsider like Kirby. Thanks a bunch, people.

yorkie44 says...
5:32pm Fri 7 May 10

Has anybody actually read the Green Party manifesto? It is all about spending more money and not a word about how where the money would come from or how they would sort out the mess the economy is in.

virtuoso says...
5:38pm Fri 7 May 10

@Lady Smith. Caroline Lucas is as much an 'outsider' as Kirby. She is also private school educated, did her doctorate in a Women's Studies Department and has only ever worked - outside of politics - as a Public Relations Officer (like David Cameron). So "a woman of the people" she is not. In revolutionary Russia or France, she would have been one of the first to have been shot.

Ricky23 says...
5:42pm Fri 7 May 10

I am sure that having the Natiol party in place of the green party would be better. Brighton lives on its businesses and is being strangled by immigrants bringing the quality of life down for those of us born here. So now we become a poor city but morally we are rich. Well isn't that great. We can tell our children in the future that we live in such a s**t hole because it was the moral thing to do. That is if we live to that day. With the USA and China producing so much pollution it really doesn't make a difference what we do on a global scale. Thank you Green party.

Bennn says...
6:13pm Fri 7 May 10

Ricky23 wrote:
I am sure that having the Natiol party in place of the green party would be better. Brighton lives on its businesses and is being strangled by immigrants bringing the quality of life down for those of us born here. So now we become a poor city but morally we are rich. Well isn't that great. We can tell our children in the future that we live in such a s**t hole because it was the moral thing to do. That is if we live to that day. With the USA and China producing so much pollution it really doesn't make a difference what we do on a global scale. Thank you Green party.
What a narrow-minded and racist comment. How can you possibly say that Brighton is being "strangled" by immigrants and that these people are bringing the quality of life down? When I walk around Brighton I see lots of happy Spanish, French, Chinese, Indian, Polish and Japanese people, mostly students, who are contributing to the local economy and helping Brighton stay a diverse and cosmopolitan city. The ones who are bringing the quality of life down for many people are the local chavs born and bred in Sussex who attack the international students I work with, who set fire to an innocent man's beard on the train or who start fights for no reason on West Street at week-ends. Get real.

TheInsider says...
6:33pm Fri 7 May 10

I feel the same Lady Smith. I am in Kemp Town and I feel duped by Kirby.
He changed his name to get ordinary people to vote for him. He has always, always been known under his name Simon Radford-Kirby as a county councillor and if you Google him, you will get all sorts of very interesting information up about him, but it's all too late.
He sends his kids to private school and refuses to answer whether he uses local NHS services.
When you trawl his record at county council level he did very little.
He is a multi-millionaire with six kids who will spout the Tory values of family, family, family, yet how on earth will he be able to 'juggle' family and a very demanding constituency.
One of us will have to go because he can't have both...ask many working mums.
Now, let's all start getting our MPs to work because the last lot had become very lazy.
What issues in Brighton and Hove do we all want dealt with?

krdp says...
7:43pm Fri 7 May 10

Well done Simon Kirby MP & Mike Weatherly MP. You both worked tirelessly and I know will work hard for Brighton constituants. Shame the Argus can't appreciate the electorate and just concentrates on MS Lucas. So sorry Charlotte Vere won't be joining her two colleagues.

pb1brighton says...
7:46pm Fri 7 May 10

TheInsider wrote:
This lady is not in my constituency, but she is a very hard-working politician so the people of the Pavilion are very lucky.
Not sure the people of Kemptown have got a good deal with Kirby. I am not sure a multi-millionaire with kids at private school, who dropped his double barrelled name in the hope of sounding more ordinary, can really understand the challenges ordinary families face. I am still trying to find out if he uses the NHS or goes private.
Sour grapes!
Simon Kirby campaigned tirelessly for the last 4 years throughout the Kemptown constituency - from Moulsecoomb to the Marina, and from the Pier to Peacehaven.
He won because he obtained broad support from the diverse communities throughout the constituency - and what is wrong in campaigning in Peacehaven anyway ...... the constituency is more than just Kemptown village.
Simon Burgess is famous only for losing his council seat to the Greens when he was leader of the Council - and is now an all-round failed and discredited politician. The people of Brighton Kemptown constituency have spoken and elected Simon Kirby MP.

salty_pete says...
8:25pm Fri 7 May 10

Oh joy of joys, that the constantly smug little pip-squeak Simon Burgess got beaten. His style of professional Labour apparatchik is really out of touch with what people want. I expect there is a quango out there, that may still be stuffed with old Labour hands, that will find him another well paid position at the expense of the taxpayer though.

spirithelen says...
8:26pm Fri 7 May 10

HoveAlone wrote:
What an absolute waste of a vote. This is typical of thicko bohemian Brighton which is why I will never live there, and have a very low opinion of the place. What a joke Brighton, you should be ashamed of yourself to have voted for a party that has no real credibility in goverment. Thank god I live in Hove and thank god the lefties are well and truly out of our town! Now all we need to do is seperate from this silly council so we can leave 'Green Brighton' well and truly sinking.
Blimey. Can I remind you Brighton and Hove is a UNIFIED Borough? I'm sorry you find it necessary to judge your fellow citizens by such ill- informed prejudices. I have lived here for most of the past 24 years, because it is one of the most tolerant, educated and non-judgemental places I have ever been. The fact it has been able to elect the first green MP, to me, is cause for celebration, not because I am a member of the Green Party, but because it reflects the town's ability to countenance something different.

Bryan G Sewering says...
8:39pm Fri 7 May 10

Good 2 see the smaller groups win a seat at westminster

cing says...
8:51pm Fri 7 May 10

Patrick Mustard wrote:
Kevin1978 wrote:
Her victory is down to the thousands of students in Brighton Pavillion voting for her. How ironic that we now have an MP who doesn't serve the real interests of the permanent residents of this constituency. The majority of residents in the suburbs have no interest in her ideas whatsoever. The roving voters of the centre, who have no legitimacy here, continue to strangle Brighton Pavillion.
Absolutely. I knew there were a lot of idealist student morons in this part of the city but didn't realise that they could be quite so shortsighted. I am surprised they managed to put down their spliffs for long enough to get out and vote.
I voted for Caroline Lucas - (and I'm not a student) - because the Greens will bring a new perspective to politics. Whilst I think some of their ideas to be unrealistic ( especially to do with road transport), I think we need people who care about what will happen in 10 or 50 years time, not just this year. I gather from my daughter that the Green party is the favourite at school - perhaps that's partly because they're thinking ahead.

TheInsider says...
8:55pm Fri 7 May 10

It's not sour grapes. I would have considered voting for Mike Weatherley as he will make a hard working constituency MP in Hove and has had a very high profile getting stuck in locally for many years. He knows the local issues. However, Simon Kirby is a backseat politician who has done little except spout bland party policy without any substance. He is too detatched from local issues. His kids don't use local or state schools and he just does not get it when you speak to him. His website and leaflets do not mention one single local campaign he has been involved with and he does not portray himself to be a man of the calibre we needed in Brighton. Burgess was also too weak for Kemptown and locals remembered what he was like as a council leader. Nice but weak but perhaps a good ward councillor as he genuinely works hard for local people.
Kirby will have to pull his finger out to prove himself but he did very little for the county council so it will be interesting.
Kemptown is a lively constituency and perhaps Kirby should have stood in one of the safe shire home counties where the electorate don't give two hoots if their MP works for them.

Nyberg says...
9:11pm Fri 7 May 10

acdcvelocity wrote:
PeteBrighton wrote: Great! No more Charlotte Vere. She should now get out of Brighton which she only came to for the seat, no roots and take the minority Tory Council with her.
And that includes all the socialist roving rabble that continually set up camp here. Leave and take your filthy politics with you.
Bigot

Nyberg says...
9:14pm Fri 7 May 10

acdcvelocity wrote:
Nyberg wrote:
Mrb-side wrote:
Bennn wrote: It's on days like today that I feel proud to live in Brighton. Well done Ms Lucas!
You lot are off your heads if you think this is a good thing!! Tree Hugging, Spliff smoking wastes of space!! B * P would be a better vote for an area that is over run with immigrants that take the majority of council houses etc and leave Brightonians who have children and can be bothered to work having to rent privately..... Oh thats right we're green now, lets camp in the level!! Joke
'Over run with immigrants'. Get a sense of proportion. 'take the majority of council houses'. No they don't. Those two ludicrous and untrue statements mark you down as a racist. And a stupid racist at that.
Please do shut it with your bigoted views on other people's opinions!
You are the bigot, not me.

TheInsider says...
9:23pm Fri 7 May 10

Nyberg don't take any notice of acdcvelocity.
We are in the worst recession since the war, we are in an unpopular war, jobs are being lost, communities broken...the list goes on...yet still the Tories have not won or got the landslide victory you would have expected in such conditions. What on earth does this say about the public.
It's laughable. A hung parliament when the economic and social conditions should have made it easy for the Tories to take a victory by a mile.
If I was in Tory Central Office I would be very concerned that they didn't walk it.

bagpuss606 says...
9:34pm Fri 7 May 10

I'm delighted to have Caroline Lucas as my representative. Too few of our politicians are scientifically literate, and too many vote with their party in hope of advancing their careers. And while the, admittedly severe, financial crisis receives attention from the major parties, the impending energy crunch and climate shock are just as much a threat to our continued comfortable existence.

And enough with the stereotyping: for the last two weeks I have been overhearing students debating the finer points of the various manifestos in the cafes and bars on campus. Be assured that the student vote was not monolithic and mainly influenced by pot smoking but diverse and considered.

PS I'm pretty sure she used to live on Southover Street but perhaps she's moved since

planetpmc says...
11:40pm Fri 7 May 10

Oh, the shame! This is Brighton, for god's sake, not Toytown. Get real, people. I shall do everything in my power to remove this self-obsessed careerist from Brighton Pavilion at the next election. You are under scrutiny, Ms Lucas. Be warned!

virtuoso says...
11:52pm Fri 7 May 10

bagpuss606 wrote:
I'm delighted to have Caroline Lucas as my representative. Too few of our politicians are scientifically literate, and too many vote with their party in hope of advancing their careers. And while the, admittedly severe, financial crisis receives attention from the major parties, the impending energy crunch and climate shock are just as much a threat to our continued comfortable existence. And enough with the stereotyping: for the last two weeks I have been overhearing students debating the finer points of the various manifestos in the cafes and bars on campus. Be assured that the student vote was not monolithic and mainly influenced by pot smoking but diverse and considered. PS I'm pretty sure she used to live on Southover Street but perhaps she's moved since
Sadly, Caroline Lucas is not scientifically literate. Her doctorate is in English Lit.

The greens need to decide if destroying capitalism is worth destroying the planet. "Renewable energy" requires 1.0 kg-Fe/W. All the talk about "externalities" is rubbish. Building 50 TWe at 1.0 kg-Fe/W means atmosphere is destroyed up front. Also 1.0 kg-Fe/W implies a cost of at least 300 trillion USD to build the 50 TWe "renewable energy." Just mobilizing that effort cannot be done before CO2 doubles. 50 TWe coal or atomic piles can be done for ~60 trillion USD.
Phosphate fertilizer is produced almost entirely by "evil" capitalists. No...you can not fix phosphates by rotating crops. 200 Mt-phosphate rock/y is requried to produce ~70 Mt-P2O5/y. With the phosphates comes ~20,000 t-U/y. Enough for 25,000 TWe atomic piles.
Minus doing the above, somebody starves in the dark. We have to go from 5 TWe to 50 TWe if 10 billion people are to live like 1 billion now do. Even if the birth rate goes to zero right now, number of housholds in existence over the next 7 decades will not change significantly. Childless persons tend to have dogs and pay vet bills instead of pediatric bills.
The greens need to tells either it is OK to live next door to a nuke or say avoid dental X-rays and plan on putting teeth in a jar at night. Most persons have at least heard about radon gas and understand that sealing up the house makes the radon level increase. Anyone should be able to understand this. All that is required is a little self-consistency.
Enough people now live in dirty air and without indoor plumbing. There should be no need to worry about CO2 when the dirty air problem is available for all to see. The GM crop issue is where the greens really fell on their sword for all to see. Absent "Roundup ready" crops, weed control requires plowing.
As long as the green are antinuclear, they will only be a fringe party. Anti-business invariably means being anti-engineering. Dragging 9 billions out of grinding poverty is an engineering problem. Keeping 9 billions in grinding poverty is a political problem.

stan bailey says...
7:34am Sat 8 May 10

virtuoso wrote:
bagpuss606 wrote:
I'm delighted to have Caroline Lucas as my representative. Too few of our politicians are scientifically literate, and too many vote with their party in hope of advancing their careers. And while the, admittedly severe, financial crisis receives attention from the major parties, the impending energy crunch and climate shock are just as much a threat to our continued comfortable existence. And enough with the stereotyping: for the last two weeks I have been overhearing students debating the finer points of the various manifestos in the cafes and bars on campus. Be assured that the student vote was not monolithic and mainly influenced by pot smoking but diverse and considered. PS I'm pretty sure she used to live on Southover Street but perhaps she's moved since
Sadly, Caroline Lucas is not scientifically literate. Her doctorate is in English Lit.

The greens need to decide if destroying capitalism is worth destroying the planet. "Renewable energy" requires 1.0 kg-Fe/W. All the talk about "externalities" is rubbish. Building 50 TWe at 1.0 kg-Fe/W means atmosphere is destroyed up front. Also 1.0 kg-Fe/W implies a cost of at least 300 trillion USD to build the 50 TWe "renewable energy." Just mobilizing that effort cannot be done before CO2 doubles. 50 TWe coal or atomic piles can be done for ~60 trillion USD.
Phosphate fertilizer is produced almost entirely by "evil" capitalists. No...you can not fix phosphates by rotating crops. 200 Mt-phosphate rock/y is requried to produce ~70 Mt-P2O5/y. With the phosphates comes ~20,000 t-U/y. Enough for 25,000 TWe atomic piles.
Minus doing the above, somebody starves in the dark. We have to go from 5 TWe to 50 TWe if 10 billion people are to live like 1 billion now do. Even if the birth rate goes to zero right now, number of housholds in existence over the next 7 decades will not change significantly. Childless persons tend to have dogs and pay vet bills instead of pediatric bills.
The greens need to tells either it is OK to live next door to a nuke or say avoid dental X-rays and plan on putting teeth in a jar at night. Most persons have at least heard about radon gas and understand that sealing up the house makes the radon level increase. Anyone should be able to understand this. All that is required is a little self-consistency.
Enough people now live in dirty air and without indoor plumbing. There should be no need to worry about CO2 when the dirty air problem is available for all to see. The GM crop issue is where the greens really fell on their sword for all to see. Absent "Roundup ready" crops, weed control requires plowing.
As long as the green are antinuclear, they will only be a fringe party. Anti-business invariably means being anti-engineering. Dragging 9 billions out of grinding poverty is an engineering problem. Keeping 9 billions in grinding poverty is a political problem.
The most intelligent posting I have read in a long time. Thank you

King from Hove says...
7:46am Sat 8 May 10

Good luck to her but feel sorry for the real hard working and taxpaying residents,not the save the planet /global warming never worked a day in their lives students and also the middle class new age hippy types who voted the Green party in the centre of Brighton.

Turing Test says...
9:13am Sat 8 May 10

HoveAlone wrote:
What an absolute waste of a vote. This is typical of thicko bohemian Brighton which is why I will never live there, and have a very low opinion of the place. What a joke Brighton, you should be ashamed of yourself to have voted for a party that has no real credibility in goverment.

Thank god I live in Hove and thank god the lefties are well and truly out of our town! Now all we need to do is seperate from this silly council so we can leave 'Green Brighton' well and truly sinking.
Just how many years is it going to take you to get your "Hove Alone" website online, Rodney? I'm looking forward to reading more thoughts of a plonker on there.

Jack Hughes says...
9:31am Sat 8 May 10

DoWeHavTo wrote:
Will she now resign as an MEP? I don't see how she can serve constituency members in Europe and Westminster.
Yes. She said in her acceptance speech that her place in the European Parliament will be taken over by our own Keith Taylor, who was second on the Green Party's list at the last European Elections. Well done, Keith! Well done Caroline!

monty sidewinder says...
10:19am Sat 8 May 10

Caroline Lucas, born in Malvern, Worcestershire - not Brighton. Voted in by countless students who do not permanently live here in Brighton. Voted in by loads of Londoners and out-of-towners who sold up and moved to Brighton. Thanks a lot all. Not only do us genuine residents have to put up with all the adoptive locals spouting off about what and how our good town should be like, but you've now appointed another out-of-towner as your idealistic leader. If all you people feel so strongly about changing things - why don't you all go back to where you came from and do something about changing your own home-town instead of comming down here and complaining about what you see wrong with Brighton. We were all doing fine untill you lot moved here. Thanks.

Nyberg says...
10:21am Sat 8 May 10

TheInsider wrote:
Nyberg don't take any notice of acdcvelocity. We are in the worst recession since the war, we are in an unpopular war, jobs are being lost, communities broken...the list goes on...yet still the Tories have not won or got the landslide victory you would have expected in such conditions. What on earth does this say about the public. It's laughable. A hung parliament when the economic and social conditions should have made it easy for the Tories to take a victory by a mile. If I was in Tory Central Office I would be very concerned that they didn't walk it.
Of course you are right, Insider.
The Tories won 36% of the vote, which means that really the other 64% (made up of Labour, Lib Dems and independents) are the majority. But of course, because the 'first past the post' system, these percentages are not converted into actual seats. Maybe people will wake up now to the fact that we need a change to some sort of PR voting system, if their vote is to really count.
The best thing of all, is that the odious B*P were trounced, with less than 2% of the vote, and actually lost council seats.
Now that IS a result.

TheInsider says...
10:48am Sat 8 May 10

I wonder what the public think about the Lib Dems cosying up to the Tories. Will this damage the Lib Dems long-term future?

jeremy radvan says...
10:58am Sat 8 May 10

TheInsider wrote:
I wonder what the public think about the Lib Dems cosying up to the Tories. Will this damage the Lib Dems long-term future?
It will destroy the LibDems if they go into a government with the Tories.
They will not get constitutional change and PR will not be brought in, the left of their party will flock to the Labour Party.
I would be very surprised if Clegg goes for it.

TheInsider says...
11:03am Sat 8 May 10

I baulked at the idea of the Tory/LibDem alliance. It didn't seem to sit right with me so I am interested in what other people think.
I assume that the party big wigs will have Mori on board and be doing lots of surveys into perception as it could do long-term damage to the LibDems. Liberal and Tory just don't seem two words which you would ever put together.

Nyberg says...
11:09am Sat 8 May 10

TheInsider wrote:
I wonder what the public think about the Lib Dems cosying up to the Tories. Will this damage the Lib Dems long-term future?
I think it's part of a larger game plan.
The holy grail for the Lib Dems is PR. The Tories have gone on record as being totally opposed to PR, and I think that both parties are immovable on that.
Labour, however, have promised a referendum, which is not the same as bringing in PR, but it's a start.
I think we will see more jockeying for position over the next few days.

ABC1 says...
11:29am Sat 8 May 10

When there is another General Election, as there is likely to be over the next twelve months, I don't expect the Greens to keep this seat. The Greens had a terrible election apart from this freak result. Their vote declined to only 1% of the electorate. Twice as many people voted BNP as voted Green. Four times as many voted UKIP as voted Green.

The Greens have absurd socialist policies but no means of paying for them. Scary indeed. Fortunately, no-one is agoing to be asking them to have any involvement in any form of policy making.

Only in Brighton could this happen. And no, it's not a good thing.

TheInsider says...
11:49am Sat 8 May 10

ABC1.
Prior to the election all three leaders had image consultations from hair to the way they speak as image is as important in today's society and many people will vote on image alone and never look at policies.
I didn't vote Green, but Caroline Lucas could actually increase the Green vote as she performs very well in front of camera and in interviews and certainly does not come across as some nutter as the posts on here like to potray the Greens as. She is articulate, experienced and has trounced the old image of Greens being a load of muesli eating hippies. Lots of people I know saw her on tv and said Brighton was lucky to have someone as an MP who seemed normal for a start.
If she puts on leg work in Brighton and gets results, she could increase the vote elsewhere.
Never say never.

acdcvelocity says...
12:09pm Sat 8 May 10

monty sidewinder wrote:
Caroline Lucas, born in Malvern, Worcestershire - not Brighton. Voted in by countless students who do not permanently live here in Brighton. Voted in by loads of Londoners and out-of-towners who sold up and moved to Brighton. Thanks a lot all. Not only do us genuine residents have to put up with all the adoptive locals spouting off about what and how our good town should be like, but you've now appointed another out-of-towner as your idealistic leader. If all you people feel so strongly about changing things - why don't you all go back to where you came from and do something about changing your own home-town instead of comming down here and complaining about what you see wrong with Brighton. We were all doing fine untill you lot moved here. Thanks.
Absolutely. These out of town morons nave ruined B&H. Pretentious wannabe ex Londoners mostly. Many are students who have stayed on but there have been a lot of Labour luvvie Londoners who have moved here over the last 15 years who, while they endorse mass immigration, don't like it in their own backyard. Hence they have moved away from the capital to get some distance from their immigrant chums!

Every ex Londoner I have spoken too who have moved here cite violence caused by immigrants in London as the reason. Yet they also supported the Labour Party! Unbelievable.

A few of them write regularly here on the Argus comments. They are easily spotted.

TheInsider says...
12:17pm Sat 8 May 10

I have students next to me who sub let their house in the summer to a group of London mates who had non-stop parties for two months.
I let myself in the house one night and turned the stereo off and got into a row with them.
They told me their parents wouldn't let them party at their homes in Dulwich and Ealing so they were 'borrowing' their Sussex Uni mates' house for the summer hols.
Will Tory MP Simon Kirby do something about the buy-to-let culture which has allowed absent landlords to leave neighbours and local councils to manage tenants and properties.
This weekend, my neighbours are taking the broken fridge the students pushed onto the pavement a month ago to the dump as the landlord wont.
The Tory city council refuse to act so I can't see Kirby doing anything as he will be a supporter of private enterprise and buy-to-let.
I would rather have hard working migrants next to me than posh Tory students who don't give a **** about us locals.

Andy R says...
12:18pm Sat 8 May 10

HoveAlone wrote:
Spanners wrote:
Granny wrote: I have read the cr*p comment from HoveAlone and with opinions like that I am not too sure that we Brighton residents would want him or her to live here either!!!!! Incidentally, does the new Green MP live locally or does she visit regularly like bibble?
Yes Granny, she lives in Marlborough Street according to several sources (including the Argus). HoveAlone - with that sort of attitude you probrably are/will be. Do you honestly think that Hove could support all it's residents on it's own. Where are the jobs for one? Actually I don't even want to go down this road with you. It's such a no-brainer and a daft idea that I'll end up feeling like I'm trying to educate a brick wall. Agree with Andy R - why don't you stand and Hove will show you some sense
Erm, obviously you haven't been in the area for longer that 13 years then? Hove had it's own council namely 'Hove Borough Council' that looked after the needs of our town without interference from 'Blighton'. East Sussex County Council looked after higher tier functions such as education, social services etc. It worked perfectly and suited Hove down to the ground. When local government was reformed in th mid nineties, Hove vehmently protested against the merger with Brighton. So how can you say that Hove can't look after itself when it did so quite successfully for over 100 years???
You've undermined your own point! Hove didn't "look after itself" did it? The really big services were actually run from Lewes along with the same services for all the other districts of East Sussex. If Hove cut itself loose to the west now, those services would be run from Chichester as part of West Sussex.

The basis of your campaign is so transparently based on a load of hackneyed prejudices about Brighton (a place which most Hoveites visit or work in on a daily basis) that it is not worth taking seriously.

Kevin1978 says...
12:20pm Sat 8 May 10

Lucas should wipe her smile off her face. We could have another election within six months and she could be out with a very high turn out.

TheInsider says...
12:54pm Sat 8 May 10

Lucas should widen that smile on her face. We could have another election within six months and she could be in again with a very high turn out.

Kevin1978 says...
2:20pm Sat 8 May 10

News alert.

Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye!

TheInsider and Nyberg are the same identity. Notice the quick succession of posts. Not very intelligent are we-dick head!

TheInsider says...
2:35pm Sat 8 May 10

Oh two people have the same opinions and you think they are the same person, just because they dare to agree.
I am happy for the Argus to confirm that we are not.
I have nothing to hide.
Kevin1978, you always get abusive and angry when other people express opinions which oppose your own.
We live in a democracy, people don't always agree with you. I didn't vote Green, but clearly a lot of people did.
The Tories also failed to get a landslide victory in the UK despite people having enough of New Labour.
This says that the British people don't think much of the Tories either.
It probably shows that the British public can't agree on how to get us out of this mess otherwise one party would have had a clear overall majority.

Murgatroyd says...
2:48pm Sat 8 May 10

"I would rather have hard working migrants next to me than posh Tory students who don't give a **** about us locals"

Well said, Insider

Murgatroyd says...
2:51pm Sat 8 May 10

TheInsider wrote:
Oh two people have the same opinions and you think they are the same person, just because they dare to agree.
I am happy for the Argus to confirm that we are not.
I have nothing to hide.
Kevin1978, you always get abusive and angry when other people express opinions which oppose your own.
We live in a democracy, people don't always agree with you. I didn't vote Green, but clearly a lot of people did.
The Tories also failed to get a landslide victory in the UK despite people having enough of New Labour.
This says that the British people don't think much of the Tories either.
It probably shows that the British public can't agree on how to get us out of this mess otherwise one party would have had a clear overall majority.
The Insider, you really do speak a lot of sense.

....and so does Nyberg

It's so nice to see Kevin of Patcham imploding in a frenzy of indignation. Talk about clutching at straws

Nyberg says...
3:51pm Sat 8 May 10

Kevin1978 wrote:
News alert. Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye! TheInsider and Nyberg are the same identity. Notice the quick succession of posts. Not very intelligent are we-dick head!
Dear Kevin, calm down dear....
Insider and myself are not the same person.
We don't agree on everything, as some other more intelligent and astute correspondents will have noticed.
It's you that should be crowned richard-head, old bean.
Long may you reign!

clearbluesky says...
3:51pm Sat 8 May 10

Fair play to the Green Party who worked hard to beat the Conservatives former-banker and Labours trade unionist. But am I the only one who thinks that calling this 'historic' is a bit of a stretch? I get the feeling that The Argus is a lot more pleased than the average reader, especially when you look at the Green share of the total votes cast in B+H.

getback says...
4:07pm Sat 8 May 10

Hahahaha...what a laugh.

Good to see that there are some sensible people posting on this story for a change. Big story of course and proves just how stupid and gullible some people can be.

Most of the usual idiots here as well of course. How can somebody with a name like TheInsider gat so many of their facts wrong? Based on that other stupid comment that the Argus knows that they are not the same person as another poster, I am going to assume that they work for the Argus. Would explain the constant inaccuracies and the only way that the Argus would know if they are a different person to another.

Bennn says...
4:16pm Sat 8 May 10

acdcvelocity wrote:
monty sidewinder wrote:
Caroline Lucas, born in Malvern, Worcestershire - not Brighton. Voted in by countless students who do not permanently live here in Brighton. Voted in by loads of Londoners and out-of-towners who sold up and moved to Brighton. Thanks a lot all. Not only do us genuine residents have to put up with all the adoptive locals spouting off about what and how our good town should be like, but you've now appointed another out-of-towner as your idealistic leader. If all you people feel so strongly about changing things - why don't you all go back to where you came from and do something about changing your own home-town instead of comming down here and complaining about what you see wrong with Brighton. We were all doing fine untill you lot moved here. Thanks.
Absolutely. These out of town morons nave ruined B&H. Pretentious wannabe ex Londoners mostly. Many are students who have stayed on but there have been a lot of Labour luvvie Londoners who have moved here over the last 15 years who, while they endorse mass immigration, don't like it in their own backyard. Hence they have moved away from the capital to get some distance from their immigrant chums!

Every ex Londoner I have spoken too who have moved here cite violence caused by immigrants in London as the reason. Yet they also supported the Labour Party! Unbelievable.

A few of them write regularly here on the Argus comments. They are easily spotted.
Brighton is now more popular and vibrant than it has ever been. We have come a long way from the 80s and "skid row on sea". Thousands of jobs have been created and Brighton & Hove has been named as one of the 5 top cities in the UK to watch as it could soon become a super city. We weathered the recession very well and if it wasn't for the media going on and on about it hardly anybody would have noticed that there was a recession going on in Brighton. This wouldn't have been possible without the"out of towners" as you call them. Sorry but I am one of them. I am French and moved here because I fell in love with this city. The vibe, the people, the music scene, the North Laine, the atmosphere, the fantastic pubs and clubs, the victorian architecture, the sea... I now promote Brighton in French newspapers and do my best to get people to visit this unique city. I am not a moron simply because I chose to live here. I love Brighton to bits and am incredibly proud to live in the city who elected the first Green MP.

Nyberg says...
4:16pm Sat 8 May 10

Something else to wind Kevin up:
The Conservatives got 36% of the overall vote. But nationwide only approx 65% of those eligible to vote actually did.
So that's 36% of 65% of the entire voting population. 23.4%. Hardly a ringing endorsement from the electorate, is it?
That's exactly why we need a system of proportional representation. Why should any party with such a low overall percentage of the vote be allowed to form a government?
With those sort of figures, 'first past the post' is a nonsense.

Lucky7 says...
5:21pm Sat 8 May 10

Bennn wrote:
acdcvelocity wrote:
monty sidewinder wrote: Caroline Lucas, born in Malvern, Worcestershire - not Brighton. Voted in by countless students who do not permanently live here in Brighton. Voted in by loads of Londoners and out-of-towners who sold up and moved to Brighton. Thanks a lot all. Not only do us genuine residents have to put up with all the adoptive locals spouting off about what and how our good town should be like, but you've now appointed another out-of-towner as your idealistic leader. If all you people feel so strongly about changing things - why don't you all go back to where you came from and do something about changing your own home-town instead of comming down here and complaining about what you see wrong with Brighton. We were all doing fine untill you lot moved here. Thanks.
Absolutely. These out of town morons nave ruined B&H. Pretentious wannabe ex Londoners mostly. Many are students who have stayed on but there have been a lot of Labour luvvie Londoners who have moved here over the last 15 years who, while they endorse mass immigration, don't like it in their own backyard. Hence they have moved away from the capital to get some distance from their immigrant chums! Every ex Londoner I have spoken too who have moved here cite violence caused by immigrants in London as the reason. Yet they also supported the Labour Party! Unbelievable. A few of them write regularly here on the Argus comments. They are easily spotted.
Brighton is now more popular and vibrant than it has ever been. We have come a long way from the 80s and "skid row on sea". Thousands of jobs have been created and Brighton & Hove has been named as one of the 5 top cities in the UK to watch as it could soon become a super city. We weathered the recession very well and if it wasn't for the media going on and on about it hardly anybody would have noticed that there was a recession going on in Brighton. This wouldn't have been possible without the"out of towners" as you call them. Sorry but I am one of them. I am French and moved here because I fell in love with this city. The vibe, the people, the music scene, the North Laine, the atmosphere, the fantastic pubs and clubs, the victorian architecture, the sea... I now promote Brighton in French newspapers and do my best to get people to visit this unique city. I am not a moron simply because I chose to live here. I love Brighton to bits and am incredibly proud to live in the city who elected the first Green MP.
Agree with Bennn. I moved here many years ago, not from London, although have lived there amongst many other places in UK and abroad. Run a business here, never been a student here, my kids born here, and I am not moving. When those that complain about "new-comers" with the usual assiduous comments attached eventually get bored with us and how their town has changed and move on themselves, I hope their new neighbours in their new chosen destination treat them with the same ignorance and contempt.
As for politics, I'm no green and yes their policies are dangerous and flawed, but if they can apply pressure for a fairer and sustainable political arena all well and good. We (the electorate) have shown politics has lost its way and any banging of heads together to shake this sorry bunch up is welcome, in my humble opinion.
Now can we all get back to work - Brighton needs more, and greater, radical changes implemented ....

Kevin1978 says...
6:02pm Sat 8 May 10

Obviously a lot of socialists here living in cloud cuckoo land like their master Brown!

The Conservatives did not get an overall majority that is true. But the Lib Dems will support them as a minority government and Cameron will be Prime Minister by Monday.

Do us all a favour Socialists and emigrate somewhere. We Conservatives are the only ones who know how to run Great Britain sensibly and we never put the country into financial meltdown. Every time we have a socialist government we end up in a financial mess.

The Lib Dems have a choice, they can either support us as the largest party or another election will have to take place and we will ask voters to give us a majority which they most likely will.

Labour are dead and out. Brown is a walking corpse and the Lib Dems should be put in their place with their 57 seats!

cheezburger says...
6:11pm Sat 8 May 10

Funny how the conservatives just conveniently forget the constitution, which does not allow them to form a government, or even seek to form a government yet. The constitution which they always go on about, except when it suits them not too.

Kevin1978 says...
6:12pm Sat 8 May 10

Lucky7 wrote:
Bennn wrote:
acdcvelocity wrote:
monty sidewinder wrote: Caroline Lucas, born in Malvern, Worcestershire - not Brighton. Voted in by countless students who do not permanently live here in Brighton. Voted in by loads of Londoners and out-of-towners who sold up and moved to Brighton. Thanks a lot all. Not only do us genuine residents have to put up with all the adoptive locals spouting off about what and how our good town should be like, but you've now appointed another out-of-towner as your idealistic leader. If all you people feel so strongly about changing things - why don't you all go back to where you came from and do something about changing your own home-town instead of comming down here and complaining about what you see wrong with Brighton. We were all doing fine untill you lot moved here. Thanks.
Absolutely. These out of town morons nave ruined B&H. Pretentious wannabe ex Londoners mostly. Many are students who have stayed on but there have been a lot of Labour luvvie Londoners who have moved here over the last 15 years who, while they endorse mass immigration, don't like it in their own backyard. Hence they have moved away from the capital to get some distance from their immigrant chums! Every ex Londoner I have spoken too who have moved here cite violence caused by immigrants in London as the reason. Yet they also supported the Labour Party! Unbelievable. A few of them write regularly here on the Argus comments. They are easily spotted.
Brighton is now more popular and vibrant than it has ever been. We have come a long way from the 80s and "skid row on sea". Thousands of jobs have been created and Brighton & Hove has been named as one of the 5 top cities in the UK to watch as it could soon become a super city. We weathered the recession very well and if it wasn't for the media going on and on about it hardly anybody would have noticed that there was a recession going on in Brighton. This wouldn't have been possible without the"out of towners" as you call them. Sorry but I am one of them. I am French and moved here because I fell in love with this city. The vibe, the people, the music scene, the North Laine, the atmosphere, the fantastic pubs and clubs, the victorian architecture, the sea... I now promote Brighton in French newspapers and do my best to get people to visit this unique city. I am not a moron simply because I chose to live here. I love Brighton to bits and am incredibly proud to live in the city who elected the first Green MP.
Agree with Bennn. I moved here many years ago, not from London, although have lived there amongst many other places in UK and abroad. Run a business here, never been a student here, my kids born here, and I am not moving. When those that complain about "new-comers" with the usual assiduous comments attached eventually get bored with us and how their town has changed and move on themselves, I hope their new neighbours in their new chosen destination treat them with the same ignorance and contempt.
As for politics, I'm no green and yes their policies are dangerous and flawed, but if they can apply pressure for a fairer and sustainable political arena all well and good. We (the electorate) have shown politics has lost its way and any banging of heads together to shake this sorry bunch up is welcome, in my humble opinion.
Now can we all get back to work - Brighton needs more, and greater, radical changes implemented ....
What Brighton needs is less of people like you who come here and dictate what it needs. Yes you are a new-comer so don't lecture Brightonians about their home. Basically go back to where you came from and leave us in peace.

Bennn says...
6:20pm Sat 8 May 10

Kevin1978 wrote:
Lucky7 wrote:
Bennn wrote:
acdcvelocity wrote:
monty sidewinder wrote: Caroline Lucas, born in Malvern, Worcestershire - not Brighton. Voted in by countless students who do not permanently live here in Brighton. Voted in by loads of Londoners and out-of-towners who sold up and moved to Brighton. Thanks a lot all. Not only do us genuine residents have to put up with all the adoptive locals spouting off about what and how our good town should be like, but you've now appointed another out-of-towner as your idealistic leader. If all you people feel so strongly about changing things - why don't you all go back to where you came from and do something about changing your own home-town instead of comming down here and complaining about what you see wrong with Brighton. We were all doing fine untill you lot moved here. Thanks.
Absolutely. These out of town morons nave ruined B&H. Pretentious wannabe ex Londoners mostly. Many are students who have stayed on but there have been a lot of Labour luvvie Londoners who have moved here over the last 15 years who, while they endorse mass immigration, don't like it in their own backyard. Hence they have moved away from the capital to get some distance from their immigrant chums! Every ex Londoner I have spoken too who have moved here cite violence caused by immigrants in London as the reason. Yet they also supported the Labour Party! Unbelievable. A few of them write regularly here on the Argus comments. They are easily spotted.
Brighton is now more popular and vibrant than it has ever been. We have come a long way from the 80s and "skid row on sea". Thousands of jobs have been created and Brighton & Hove has been named as one of the 5 top cities in the UK to watch as it could soon become a super city. We weathered the recession very well and if it wasn't for the media going on and on about it hardly anybody would have noticed that there was a recession going on in Brighton. This wouldn't have been possible without the"out of towners" as you call them. Sorry but I am one of them. I am French and moved here because I fell in love with this city. The vibe, the people, the music scene, the North Laine, the atmosphere, the fantastic pubs and clubs, the victorian architecture, the sea... I now promote Brighton in French newspapers and do my best to get people to visit this unique city. I am not a moron simply because I chose to live here. I love Brighton to bits and am incredibly proud to live in the city who elected the first Green MP.
Agree with Bennn. I moved here many years ago, not from London, although have lived there amongst many other places in UK and abroad. Run a business here, never been a student here, my kids born here, and I am not moving. When those that complain about "new-comers" with the usual assiduous comments attached eventually get bored with us and how their town has changed and move on themselves, I hope their new neighbours in their new chosen destination treat them with the same ignorance and contempt.
As for politics, I'm no green and yes their policies are dangerous and flawed, but if they can apply pressure for a fairer and sustainable political arena all well and good. We (the electorate) have shown politics has lost its way and any banging of heads together to shake this sorry bunch up is welcome, in my humble opinion.
Now can we all get back to work - Brighton needs more, and greater, radical changes implemented ....
What Brighton needs is less of people like you who come here and dictate what it needs. Yes you are a new-comer so don't lecture Brightonians about their home. Basically go back to where you came from and leave us in peace.
You are giving such a fabulous image of the Tories Kevin. No wonder you didn't get an overall majority! Despite being fed up with Brown most people were too afraid to vote for the Tories because they know that behind Cameron's gentle face the party is full of people like you.

stan bailey says...
6:42pm Sat 8 May 10

acdcvelocity wrote:
monty sidewinder wrote:
Caroline Lucas, born in Malvern, Worcestershire - not Brighton. Voted in by countless students who do not permanently live here in Brighton. Voted in by loads of Londoners and out-of-towners who sold up and moved to Brighton. Thanks a lot all. Not only do us genuine residents have to put up with all the adoptive locals spouting off about what and how our good town should be like, but you've now appointed another out-of-towner as your idealistic leader. If all you people feel so strongly about changing things - why don't you all go back to where you came from and do something about changing your own home-town instead of comming down here and complaining about what you see wrong with Brighton. We were all doing fine untill you lot moved here. Thanks.
Absolutely. These out of town morons nave ruined B&H. Pretentious wannabe ex Londoners mostly. Many are students who have stayed on but there have been a lot of Labour luvvie Londoners who have moved here over the last 15 years who, while they endorse mass immigration, don't like it in their own backyard. Hence they have moved away from the capital to get some distance from their immigrant chums!

Every ex Londoner I have spoken too who have moved here cite violence caused by immigrants in London as the reason. Yet they also supported the Labour Party! Unbelievable.

A few of them write regularly here on the Argus comments. They are easily spotted.
Where do you think Benn comes from?

Luckystar26 says...
7:07pm Sat 8 May 10

Mung beans, lentils, organic sandals...smelly arm pits and messy hair. Its 'chic' to be Green, but I wonder how many people who voted for them actually know and understand their policies?

Andy R says...
11:18pm Sat 8 May 10

Luckystar26 wrote:
Mung beans, lentils, organic sandals...smelly arm pits and messy hair. Its 'chic' to be Green, but I wonder how many people who voted for them actually know and understand their policies?
Oh dear! This late into a discussion you've gotta come up with something a bit more orginal than that.

TheInsider says...
11:32pm Sat 8 May 10

Kevin1978 is angry at socialists, he is angry at the general population for not voting Tory, he is angry at people who live in Brighton but don't come from Brighton, he is angry at people he thinks are the same person making posts on websites, he is angry at people who aren't interested in parades for England, he is angry at women who bring up kids together etc.The list goes on.
Kevin1978, you are angry at the modern world and it only hurts you.

Tony Davenport says...
11:47pm Sat 8 May 10

cheezburger wrote:
Funny how the conservatives just conveniently forget the constitution, which does not allow them to form a government, or even seek to form a government yet. The constitution which they always go on about, except when it suits them not too.
What constitution?! We don't have such a luxury in this country!

Tony Davenport

cheezburger says...
12:07am Sun 9 May 10

http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Constitutio
n_of_the_United_King
dom

heavenscentrose says...
6:48am Sun 9 May 10

yorkie44 wrote:
Has anybody actually read the Green Party manifesto? It is all about spending more money and not a word about how where the money would come from or how they would sort out the mess the economy is in.
The Green Party manifesto is totally unrealistic and if you listen to what Caroline Lucas says, she sounds closer to a Communist than even far left-wing Labour.

It does appear that the electorate of Brighton Pavilion have been hoodwinked and are hooked on celebrity rather than facing up to reality and voting for a candidate from a Party with realistic goals, ie, those goals which will get this country out of the mess in which it now finds itself.

Lucky7 says...
8:50am Sun 9 May 10

"Go back to where I came from"? Just who the hell do think you are? Plus my children were born here - can they stay, oh lord almighty kev? B-T-W I'm no socialist, but I'm also no inbred village dweller (Patcham isn't really Brighton, is it?). You're an embarrassment. Bye.

Nyberg says...
9:20am Sun 9 May 10

Kevin1978 wrote:
Obviously a lot of socialists here living in cloud cuckoo land like their master Brown! The Conservatives did not get an overall majority that is true. But the Lib Dems will support them as a minority government and Cameron will be Prime Minister by Monday. Do us all a favour Socialists and emigrate somewhere. We Conservatives are the only ones who know how to run Great Britain sensibly and we never put the country into financial meltdown. Every time we have a socialist government we end up in a financial mess. The Lib Dems have a choice, they can either support us as the largest party or another election will have to take place and we will ask voters to give us a majority which they most likely will. Labour are dead and out. Brown is a walking corpse and the Lib Dems should be put in their place with their 57 seats!
I'm no supporter of the labour government, but even someone as right wing as you should be aware that recent financial crash was nothing to do with the labour government, but everything to do with sub prime mortgages in the US, and greedy, unregulated bankers. And who deregulated them?
You have to go a bit further back than the last 13 years.

ABC1 says...
10:06am Sun 9 May 10

The banks were meant to be regulated by an agency set up according to the orders of one G. Brown esq. This same man was Chancellor for the duration of the New Labour experiment (now discredited) and had absolutely no idea what the banks were doing during his tenure.

In addition he spent money we didn't have over many years whilst knowing that our economy was built on the sands of personal debt. All this to shore up Labour votes and get into the office of PM one day. Here in Brighton, we are the unlucky recipients of New Labour largesse, for example, the Falmer in return for votes stadium. We've now lost AONB that will never come back, and he's lost his MP's - what a **** deal.

In other areas, Civil Service jobs were created that we neither needed nor could afford.

Lastly, the one thing that no-one has mentioned is the many constituency boundary changes that have occurred under a Labour govt., which means that despite a record move away from Labour, and in favour of the Tories, Labour are still in with a chance of forming a govt. draw your own conclusions..... And people wonder why the Tories couldn't get an overall majority?

Andy R says...
11:12am Sun 9 May 10

ABC1 wrote:
The banks were meant to be regulated by an agency set up according to the orders of one G. Brown esq. This same man was Chancellor for the duration of the New Labour experiment (now discredited) and had absolutely no idea what the banks were doing during his tenure. In addition he spent money we didn't have over many years whilst knowing that our economy was built on the sands of personal debt. All this to shore up Labour votes and get into the office of PM one day. Here in Brighton, we are the unlucky recipients of New Labour largesse, for example, the Falmer in return for votes stadium. We've now lost AONB that will never come back, and he's lost his MP's - what a **** deal. In other areas, Civil Service jobs were created that we neither needed nor could afford. Lastly, the one thing that no-one has mentioned is the many constituency boundary changes that have occurred under a Labour govt., which means that despite a record move away from Labour, and in favour of the Tories, Labour are still in with a chance of forming a govt. draw your own conclusions..... And people wonder why the Tories couldn't get an overall majority?
Oh right...so now it's "boundary changes"...the Bumper Book of Cameron Excuses is expanding by the minute.

There were no boundary changes in Hove and the Tories would have expected to gobble up Labour's 400-odd majority much like a shark gobbles up plankton. In fact they only just crept past by less than 2000 votes. The Hove Tories have reason to be grateful to the Greens for taking just under 3000 votes in all probability from Labour in the main.

ABC1 says...
11:36am Sun 9 May 10

Anyone with an interest in politics would have been aware of the boundary changes.

Factual Freddy says...
1:32pm Sun 9 May 10

GREENS GO BACK TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND PREPARE A VERY NICE LENTIL SOUP!

Nyberg says...
8:39pm Sun 9 May 10

ABC1 wrote:
The banks were meant to be regulated by an agency set up according to the orders of one G. Brown esq. This same man was Chancellor for the duration of the New Labour experiment (now discredited) and had absolutely no idea what the banks were doing during his tenure. In addition he spent money we didn't have over many years whilst knowing that our economy was built on the sands of personal debt. All this to shore up Labour votes and get into the office of PM one day. Here in Brighton, we are the unlucky recipients of New Labour largesse, for example, the Falmer in return for votes stadium. We've now lost AONB that will never come back, and he's lost his MP's - what a **** deal. In other areas, Civil Service jobs were created that we neither needed nor could afford. Lastly, the one thing that no-one has mentioned is the many constituency boundary changes that have occurred under a Labour govt., which means that despite a record move away from Labour, and in favour of the Tories, Labour are still in with a chance of forming a govt. draw your own conclusions..... And people wonder why the Tories couldn't get an overall majority?
I'll have to spell it out:
the banks were originally deregulated under the Thatcher regime, not Gordon Browns.

ABC1 says...
9:31pm Sun 9 May 10

Nyberg wrote:
ABC1 wrote:
The banks were meant to be regulated by an agency set up according to the orders of one G. Brown esq. This same man was Chancellor for the duration of the New Labour experiment (now discredited) and had absolutely no idea what the banks were doing during his tenure. In addition he spent money we didn't have over many years whilst knowing that our economy was built on the sands of personal debt. All this to shore up Labour votes and get into the office of PM one day. Here in Brighton, we are the unlucky recipients of New Labour largesse, for example, the Falmer in return for votes stadium. We've now lost AONB that will never come back, and he's lost his MP's - what a **** deal. In other areas, Civil Service jobs were created that we neither needed nor could afford. Lastly, the one thing that no-one has mentioned is the many constituency boundary changes that have occurred under a Labour govt., which means that despite a record move away from Labour, and in favour of the Tories, Labour are still in with a chance of forming a govt. draw your own conclusions..... And people wonder why the Tories couldn't get an overall majority?
I'll have to spell it out:
the banks were originally deregulated under the Thatcher regime, not Gordon Browns.
So? What is your point? The regulatory framework belonged to Brown. He was warned often enough that the chickens were coming home to roost, but chose to ignore the fact. to be fair, he wasn't alone.

Andy R says...
11:20pm Sun 9 May 10

Factual Freddy wrote:
GREENS GO BACK TO YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND PREPARE A VERY NICE LENTIL SOUP!
Ooh look! A "lentil joke", 122 posts in. How original. Oh my aching sides.....

Spanners says...
9:56am Mon 10 May 10

Kevin1978 wrote:
Obviously a lot of socialists here living in cloud cuckoo land like their master Brown! The Conservatives did not get an overall majority that is true. But the Lib Dems will support them as a minority government and Cameron will be Prime Minister by Monday. Do us all a favour Socialists and emigrate somewhere. We Conservatives are the only ones who know how to run Great Britain sensibly and we never put the country into financial meltdown. Every time we have a socialist government we end up in a financial mess. The Lib Dems have a choice, they can either support us as the largest party or another election will have to take place and we will ask voters to give us a majority which they most likely will. Labour are dead and out. Brown is a walking corpse and the Lib Dems should be put in their place with their 57 seats!
It is Monday, Cameron is not PM, you appear to be are wrong - again

Andy R says...
12:27pm Mon 10 May 10

Brown - a walking corpse

Cameron - the man who failed to beat a walking corpse without some help from some liberals

Mr. Kipling says...
10:43am Tue 11 May 10

Having said that, there might have to be a few by-elections in those seats where people were locked out of the polling stations and unable to vote. That might chane things, but might not. It was only about 20,000 votes that mde the difference betweeen a hung parliament and a working majority (although the tories have so many rebellious elements and splits that any majority under 25 could still result in defeat in the commons, especially on issues like Europe)

Brighton-Man says...
4:42pm Sat 15 May 10

Now hold your horses and wait and see what she will do for Brighton. Will she cost us more or is she going to do some good in Brighton??

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