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Worthing pub blames smoking ban for closure

A pub is closing down on Easter Monday due to falling trade following the ban on smoking.

Yates Wine Lodge, in Worthing, will shut after last orders at the end of the evening session.

The bar, in Chapel Road, is one of several Yates ear-marked for closure around the country.

The branches in Brighton and Hastings are expected to stay open for business.

Owners, the Laurel Pub Company, which owns more than 400 pubs and restaurants nationwide, said: "We are closing due to the affect of the smoking ban and difficult trading conditions."

The company says it will be helping the 12 staff to find new jobs. The spokesman said: "Where possible we try to re-locate our staff."

The firm, based in Bedfordshire, declined to give information about how many of its Yates bars are closing.

The Yates in Worthing, which opened in 1999, is one of many pubs and bars around the country which have become victims of a massive reduction in takings since the smoking ban was introduced in July last year.

The Argus has reported landlords reporting takings dropping by £1,000 a week in some pubs. Littlehampton appears to have been one of the worst hit areas with five pubs being forced to shut.

A survey by the Campaign for Real Ale revealed 56 pubs a month are closing across the country.

3:46pm Wednesday 19th March 2008

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Posted by: Cause for celebration, Sweeping up Fag butts on 3:54pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Yates wine lodges closing! I'm going on the Pi 55 then! Praise Allah and all that sail in him, those pubs are full of ceptic chavs.
Posted by: Kickboxer, Worthing on 4:02pm Wed 19 Mar 08
I agree with soozie, any Yates' customer that sits on my house roof making a racket with all that squawking is very likely to get its beer's head blown of with a rifle. (yes I am that accurate with a cork rifle and telepathetic sight I can hit a Yates' head at 0.025 metres away)
Posted by: Can't argue with that dirk on 4:09pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Kittyboxer you any good with a water pistol?
Posted by: Vermin, King Vermin on 4:13pm Wed 19 Mar 08
The Royal Society for the Protection of Birds (RSPB) has named Yates wine lodge as one of 71 across Britain that is important for breeding seabirds
Posted by: Flat Foot Soozie, Brunswick Square on 4:31pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Kickboxer wrote:
I agree with soozie, any Yates' customer that sits on my house roof making a racket with all that squawking is very likely to get its beer's head blown of with a rifle. (yes I am that accurate with a cork rifle and telepathetic sight I can hit a Yates' head at 0.025 metres away)
I didn't comment on Yates's Lodges.

But, yes, they are awful places.
Posted by: Liz, Worthing on 4:43pm Wed 19 Mar 08
There are a few others pubs that should shut down aswell, The Vintners, The Warwick, JB's....
Posted by: John Rambo, Worthing on 5:24pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Good 1 less place for the chavs to get out of their skulls, lets close some more.!
Posted by: sm on 6:24pm Wed 19 Mar 08
The Smoking ban ???

So it'll be NOTHING to do with the crap beer, ATROCIOUS food, chav-filled, noisy, typical Yates's punch-up-pre-'club' pile of toss that it is then ?

No. blame the smoking ban.
Posted by: Bill C, uk on 8:34pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Well I am glad I don't live in Worthing, if these comments reflect the views of the local populous.

When all these pubs are closed, chav-filled or not, where do you expect to do your socialising? Yes - the smoking ban is having a massive impact. A ban based on the lies of passive smoking. Are you prepared to let New Labour dictate to you about one of your pleasures in life. Well after the last budget, they have already started with the drinkers and drivers. Just think before you start abusing the chavs, because you toffs are next in the firing line now.
Posted by: gazza, worthing on 9:14pm Wed 19 Mar 08
After the last budget i rather think that labour might not get too many more
Posted by: mandyv, banitland on 9:30pm Wed 19 Mar 08
I wonder nice comments the drink haters will be using, for those who like a few drinks. The puritans are on a roll. When the goverment tell you how many drinks you are aloud, let's see how many start kicking up a fuss then. Because there are smoke-haters, alcohol haters, 4X4 haters.
Remember the saying - they came for the smokers, but I did not care, I was not a smoker ect.
cleanairquality blogspot com/
Air quality testing by Johns Hopkins University, the American Cancer Society, a Minnesota Environmental Health Department, and various researchers whose testing and report was peer reviewed and published in the esteemed British Medical Journal.prove that secondhand smoke is 2.6 - 25,000 times SAFER than occupational (OSHA) workplace regulations:
8th August 2006 the HSE in the document OC 255/16 Paragraph 14
" HSE cannot produce epidemiological evidence to link levels of exposure to second hand smoke to the raised risk of contacting specific diseases".
Then the only chips that will be allowed in the future, are the ones the government will use to control the masses.
freedom2choose info for tolerant non-smokers and smokers alike
"Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred"
Jacques Barzun
Posted by: Oh heck, Brighton on 11:05pm Wed 19 Mar 08
could you run over para 1.2.3 & 4 again pleeze . . .
Posted by: graham, hove on 7:47am Thu 20 Mar 08
255/16 Paragraph 14


...and of course you won't have selected a paragraph in isolation that really in effect says absolutely nothing to support your point would you MandyV?
So you've scrabbled around for evidence to support your views and come up with nowt. do you also scrabble around the British Drivers Association website to attempt to debunk global warming? you poor soul...
Posted by: Dave, Wivelsfield on 9:36am Thu 20 Mar 08
Any other suggestions why pubs might be closing, it aint just the smoking ban. Our village pub (The Marie Celest in all but name) has just put beer up by 20 a pint. Then that nice Mr Darling put it up by 4p last week. So the kind management has hit us with another 10p increase, a total rise of 30p per pint in 6 weeks. The blame is being laid firmly at the door of Punch taverns, too big too greedy too powerful, as the middle man. However the simple fact is the pub trade is not wanted by the government and every possible hurdle is being put in the way. Its now cheaper for me to be a line of coke than a pint. So lets tax illegal drugs (if only we could).
No the problem is that pubs in their new trendy format have already passed their sell by date, cheap supermarket booze, every type of sports coverage on tv, a must work long hours culture and and and etc simply mean that as pubs close the chavs (as the above so eloquently put it) are forced into fewer and fewer pubs just alienating more and more regulars who leave. Its a downhill spiral. Give us back proper pubs without the added crap and guess what will happen.
(Now lets get a few Weatherspoons closed - ever been in one at lunchtime. Full of the unemployable, unwashed and uneducated, yet they can all make their Ģ1.80 pint of guiness last 2 hours, skilled at something)
Posted by: Martin, Hove on 10:00am Thu 20 Mar 08
graham wrote:
255/16 Paragraph 14
...and of course you won't have selected a paragraph in isolation that really in effect says absolutely nothing to support your point would you MandyV? So you've scrabbled around for evidence to support your views and come up with nowt. do you also scrabble around the British Drivers Association website to attempt to debunk global warming? you poor soul...
Graham, the hazards of passive smoking are almost entirely fictitious. If you don't know that then I'm afraid you don't know much.
Posted by: Simon, Shoreham on 10:15am Thu 20 Mar 08
Martin wrote:
graham wrote:
255/16 Paragraph 14
...and of course you won't have selected a paragraph in isolation that really in effect says absolutely nothing to support your point would you MandyV? So you've scrabbled around for evidence to support your views and come up with nowt. do you also scrabble around the British Drivers Association website to attempt to debunk global warming? you poor soul...
Graham, the hazards of passive smoking are almost entirely fictitious. If you don't know that then I'm afraid you don't know much.
You say that Martin, but as a non-dope smoking student, how is it that when I've been to parties where a lot of puffing has taken place, I feel mildly stoned? Surely if the chemicals in the drugs can affect me, the chemicals present in cigarette smoke can also?
Posted by: Flat foot soozie, brunswick square on 10:48am Thu 20 Mar 08
Flat Foot Soozie wrote:
Kickboxer wrote: I agree with soozie, any Yates' customer that sits on my house roof making a racket with all that squawking is very likely to get its beer's head blown of with a rifle. (yes I am that accurate with a cork rifle and telepathetic sight I can hit a Yates' head at 0.025 metres away)
I didn't comment on Yates's Lodges. But, yes, they are awful places.
imposter again ,sod off kickboxer
Posted by: JJ, Worthing on 11:15am Thu 20 Mar 08
"There are a few others pubs that should shut down aswell, The Vintners, The Warwick, JB's...."

What a stupid comment, yes these pubs are often full of chavs and a bit naff but close all those and there will be little left!
Posted by: OLD BOY, worthing on 12:25pm Thu 20 Mar 08
I packed up smoking 5 yrs ago.So far ive saved 4 barmaids from cancer,1/2 a polar bear, and 2sq ft of ice from melting. ive done my bit for the green nutters.
Posted by: Nikki Edwards, worthing on 5:02pm Thu 20 Mar 08
wot about the staff that have just lost there job hey yeah it maybe a chav filled place but i enjoyed working there
Posted by: GClad, GC on 5:09pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Martin wrote:
graham wrote:
255/16 Paragraph 14
...and of course you won't have selected a paragraph in isolation that really in effect says absolutely nothing to support your point would you MandyV? So you've scrabbled around for evidence to support your views and come up with nowt. do you also scrabble around the British Drivers Association website to attempt to debunk global warming? you poor soul...
Graham, the hazards of passive smoking are almost entirely fictitious. If you don't know that then I'm afraid you don't know much.
Who cares whether itīs fictitious or not! It stinks! And so do smokers! But at least they donīt make me stink anymore when I want to go out for a beer...
Posted by: JOHNBOY, worthing on 6:57pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Know how you feel G.Clad.But where you going to drink? they are shutting your chavs pub down.
Posted by: Only me, burgess Hill on 10:14pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Those posters rejoicing the closure of any pubs frequented mainly by 'Chavs' may soon eat their words soon.
Where will these underclass choose to drink instead? They could be coming to a pub near you soon.....!
Posted by: Flat Foot Soozie, Brunswick Square on 10:24am Fri 21 Mar 08
Flat foot soozie wrote:
Flat Foot Soozie wrote:
Kickboxer wrote: I agree with soozie, any Yates' customer that sits on my house roof making a racket with all that squawking is very likely to get its beer's head blown of with a rifle. (yes I am that accurate with a cork rifle and telepathetic sight I can hit a Yates' head at 0.025 metres away)
I didn't comment on Yates's Lodges. But, yes, they are awful places.
imposter again ,sod off kickboxer
That was again an impostor.

Beats me why these online crews are obsessed by me.
Posted by: Paul Farmer, Worthing on 10:20am Thu 27 Mar 08
Yet another pub closeing. This is how our goverment and presure groups are destroying our English culture.
Posted by: shoggoth, Darlington on 7:46pm Fri 4 Apr 08
Hai!
Posted by: bryan howard montagu on 11:41pm Sat 5 Apr 08
Reallly sorry to see Yates's closed, we only ever came down for lunch on Saturdays and always found it good value for money and the staff very nice and helpful,whats wrong with all these moaners? if you want to see rough pubs come to Redhill !
I hope the staff can all get new jobs.
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