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Brighton and Hove Council splashes out on bottled water

10:32am Wednesday 16th April 2008

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By Lawrence Marzouk, Local Government Correspondent »

A council spent nearly £60,000 on mineral water in just a year.

Brighton and Hove City Council paid out £59,000 last year on bringing in bottled water and tanks for water coolers - the equivalent of three teachers' wages.

Using tap water would have cost approximately £7,000 and slashed the council's carbon footprint.

The total cost includes £12,000 on bottled mineral water, served at council meetings and functions. That figure does not include meetings at Hove Town Hall, the Brighton Centre and the Learning Development Centre in Hodshrove Lane, Moulsecoomb, which fall under a different budget.

Sustain, the food and health lobby group, has criticised the council for its use of mineral water. Jeanette Longfield, coordinator for Sustain, said: "It is a scandalous waste of money. Ratepayers would be right to be asking questions.

"It is phenomenally bad for the environment at every stage of the process and you have got the plastic at the end to deal with. Brighton and Hove needs to set out their plans rapidly."

The figures emerged following questions from Green councillor Paul Steedman who is calling for councillors and officers to use tap water.

He said: "Bottled water is falling massively out of favour with the public and the council should follow suit. The idea that the taxpayer should be subsidising councillors to drink mineral water is obscene."

Following in the footsteps of the capital's London On Tap campaign, Labour councillors earlier this year urged city council officials and residents to reduce their carbon footprint by cutting down on bottled water.

New Conservative leader, Mary Mears, said the council was bound by the previous administration's contracts, However, she added: "We recognise there is an issue about the cost of water. We are very keen to have a look at reducing the cost of that."

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Biscuits, Brighton says...
10:38am Wed 16 Apr 08

£18,000 on biscuits, £59,000 on water - when will the abuse of your Council Tax money stop!?

Sherman McCoy, Brighton says...
10:44am Wed 16 Apr 08

Perhaps council staf believe that by drinking purified mineral water they can clean out their corrupt insides?

mark, regency says...
10:49am Wed 16 Apr 08

Total hypocrites. These Greens all sit around council meetings drinking bottled water, and never complained before.

They should have worried more about the the earth's resources before supporting the King Alfred.

I'll raise a glass of tap water to Coun Steadman and his phoney campaigns to get himself pictured in the paper.

Councillor Warren Morgan, Labour, East Brighton says...
11:19am Wed 16 Apr 08

Lets be clear - I proposed that the council stop using bottled water at the last council meeting, following the lead of other Labour councils and groups across the country.
The vast majority of Conservative councillors voted against, saying they preferred the taste and wanted the "freedom of choice" to continue using expensive bottled water which costs more and which generates huge carbon emissions through bottling and transportation.

s, says...
11:30am Wed 16 Apr 08

yes Mr Morgan, that may be so. But remember that you are a labour councillor and therefore your opinion is utterly irrelevant.

And more than likely wrong.

Labour jumping, On the bandwagon. again says...
11:33am Wed 16 Apr 08

and which generates huge carbon emissions through bottling and transportation.

So does breathing. So do us all a favour and give that up as well.

Could you answer me a question, how did you get to that meeting that day Mr Morgan ?

matt, St peters says...
11:54am Wed 16 Apr 08

Councillor Warren Morgan wrote:
Lets be clear - I proposed that the council stop using bottled water at the last council meeting, following the lead of other Labour councils and groups across the country. The vast majority of Conservative councillors voted against, saying they preferred the taste and wanted the "freedom of choice" to continue using expensive bottled water which costs more and which generates huge carbon emissions through bottling and transportation.
Why are the Greens having to raise this again if you were so successful last time?

Bob Cup, Shoreham says...
12:01pm Wed 16 Apr 08

Councillor Warren Morgan wrote:
Lets be clear - I proposed that the council stop using bottled water at the last council meeting, following the lead of other Labour councils and groups across the country. The vast majority of Conservative councillors voted against, saying they preferred the taste and wanted the "freedom of choice" to continue using expensive bottled water which costs more and which generates huge carbon emissions through bottling and transportation.
Why doesn't this surprise me. It's a shame we don't have the "freedom of choice" to not pay for this water through council taxes.

Councillor, I Know Best, brighton says...
12:08pm Wed 16 Apr 08

What is up with you lot? So we drink a few bottles of water.We are Councilers and should be treated with the respect we deserve. Whats 59000 pounds?{its even less than our expences}A drop in the ocean.If you carry on complaining like this, we shall all stand down at the next election, and teach the lot of you a lesson.

Resident, Queen's Park says...
1:25pm Wed 16 Apr 08

I am a resident in Cllr Steedman's ward. I went to him and his colleagues for help last year, I rang and wrote to him and his Green Party colleagues. Time and time again there was no reply. They never wrote back and never returned my calls, thats when their phone lines even had answer machines.

We threw out 3 lazy Labour Councillors for what we thought would be some fresh blood. How wrong we were.

Cllr Steedman should spend more time helping his residents instead of worrying about bottled water.

Watch out Cllr Steedman in the next local elections. Your seat is not safe.

Wat Tyler, Amongst the rioting classes says...
1:27pm Wed 16 Apr 08

Oh no………….let us be clear Councillor Morgan, you are a PUBLIC SERVANT, and you should start acting like one……………RAPID.

Can you comprehend the relationship that exists between the public and those who have been appointed to SERVE them……………….to be clear it is SERVE; not OPPRESS or worst still hold in complete CONTEMPT.

Not that it’s you alone Councillor Morgan you are only one pig amongst many that govern over us in the style of a neo-aristocracy (regardless of their political hue I hasten to add). We can see that life is good in your ivory sty, surrounded by security guards with bottled water and chocolate hobnobs on tap for you and your piglets.

You and your fellow pigs’ collective profligacy of our money falls into sharp focus when we see your fat expenses and the platinum pension benefits you will receive in comparison to the likes of ordinary hard working folk…………………..I mean you constituents.

That you want to make political capital out of this sort of trifling matter is indicative of your arrogance; never mind the lives of drudgery for those of your constituents who sacrificed their young lives keeping this country free from the pernicious fascists that govern us now. You keep up with the good work though and keep us free from these evil plastic bottles, they will worry about whether they can afford to keep a bar on the fire or not have to eat offal for 6 days a week.

Personally I can’t wait for the day when all the pigs heads have been lopped off and Brighton and Hove’s council tax payers are kicking them about in Bartholomew Square…………..jumpers for goal posts anyone?

water conscious, east brighton says...
4:24pm Wed 16 Apr 08

I agree that for council meetings tap water should be used not bottled water. However employees should have access to water coolers because in some buildings employees do not have access to kitchens only toilets!

Tony Davenport, Brighton says...
5:06pm Wed 16 Apr 08

Wat Tyler wrote:
Oh no………….let us be clear Councillor Morgan, you are a PUBLIC SERVANT, and you should start acting like one……………RAPID.

Can you comprehend the relationship that exists between the public and those who have been appointed to SERVE them……………….to be clear it is SERVE; not OPPRESS or worst still hold in complete CONTEMPT.

Not that it’s you alone Councillor Morgan you are only one pig amongst many that govern over us in the style of a neo-aristocracy (regardless of their political hue I hasten to add). We can see that life is good in your ivory sty, surrounded by security guards with bottled water and chocolate hobnobs on tap for you and your piglets.

You and your fellow pigs’ collective profligacy of our money falls into sharp focus when we see your fat expenses and the platinum pension benefits you will receive in comparison to the likes of ordinary hard working folk…………………..I mean you constituents.

That you want to make political capital out of this sort of trifling matter is indicative of your arrogance; never mind the lives of drudgery for those of your constituents who sacrificed their young lives keeping this country free from the pernicious fascists that govern us now. You keep up with the good work though and keep us free from these evil plastic bottles, they will worry about whether they can afford to keep a bar on the fire or not have to eat offal for 6 days a week.

Personally I can’t wait for the day when all the pigs heads have been lopped off and Brighton and Hove’s council tax payers are kicking them about in Bartholomew Square…………..jumpers for goal posts anyone?
Wat Tyler wrote:
We can see that life is good in your ivory sty, surrounded by security guards with bottled water and chocolate hobnobs on tap for you and your piglets.

Ha, ha! Hilarious quote.

Councillor Morgan has leapt up onto so many bandwagons he must have the leg muscles of an Olympic athlete. You're wasted on us, Councillor. Get yourself over to Beijing - your country needs you, man! As an added incentive I gather that the political setup over there is right up your street ...

Cllr Paul Steedman, Queen's Park, Brighton says...
5:32pm Wed 16 Apr 08

Resident wrote:
I am a resident in Cllr Steedman's ward. I went to him and his colleagues for help last year, I rang and wrote to him and his Green Party colleagues. Time and time again there was no reply. They never wrote back and never returned my calls, thats when their phone lines even had answer machines. We threw out 3 lazy Labour Councillors for what we thought would be some fresh blood. How wrong we were. Cllr Steedman should spend more time helping his residents instead of worrying about bottled water. Watch out Cllr Steedman in the next local elections. Your seat is not safe.
'Resident'

I take my ward responsibilities very seriously - as do my Green colleagues. We try to help all constituents who get in touch and we spent this morning, not unusually, working with local residents and council officers picking up litter and putting in new plants around the Tarner area.

If you would like to get in touch to discuss a particular ward issue please do so - I'd be happy to help.

On the other hand, I do think that exposing the Tory administration's waste of thousands of pounds of taxpayers money on bottled water, in addition to the serious environmental damage it causes, seems to me to be exactly the kind of work that I should be doing as a Green Party councillor.

As for 'Mark's' off-topic comments about the King Alfred, I should point out that the only Green councillor on the planning committee at the time voted to refuse it.

Hard up, Brighton says...
9:46pm Wed 16 Apr 08

What with the council spending our money on water and Tony Blair Brown and Prescott spending our money on TV licences and food bills I'm suprised the people are putting up with it. Its time for something to be done. There must be a way of standing up for ourselves.

Bob, Cooden Beaches says...
11:05pm Wed 16 Apr 08

Oh ffs. I want my money back. Why are we paying absurd taxes for these malingering wasters? Can Trading Standards investigate its own council?

bobby bigballs, Brighton says...
9:55am Fri 18 Apr 08

So what we gonna do about it? I'm scrimmping and scrapping to pay my council tax and these idiots are buying bloody bottled water. Whats wrong with a cup of tea? Its about time we all withheld our council tax, they cant put us all in prison - we need a leader any offers?

m00se, says...
9:08pm Sun 20 Apr 08

you know what, i don't blame them for drinking bottled water. last time i drank some of brighton and hoves' finest, i had the sh*ts for nigh on 18 months. as did my partner...

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