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Young Sussex stars will learn at Brighton and Hove Albion ground


A new football academy will be opened at Brighton and Hove Albion's Falmer stadium.

The school will be separate from the club's own youth set-up and aimed at training both promising young players who have not made it as professionals and others who are just keen to play.

It is being set up by City College Brighton and Hove to try to make up for a shortfall of sports opportunities for teenagers in the city.

Male and female players will be coached by at least one former professional, with retired Albion captain Charlie Oatway already committed to helping with the project.

The academy will open in September with 60 students at the college's campus in Wilson Avenue, east Brighton, and is due to move to the stadium when it opens in 2011.

Luke Hampton, who has moved from BHASVIC, in Hove, to take up the role as head of the college's new sports department, said it would be one of the best facilities in the country.

He said: "We will have players training three days a week and playing a match in the national college league every week, so it will be quite a professional set-up.

"Around that they be working on a variety of sports-based qualifications, including BTECs and NVQs.

"The idea is that footballers who haven't quite made the grade with clubs like Albion can carry on playing.

"They might then reach a position where they have another chance at making it as a professional but if they don't they will have a qualification to fall back on and can pursue other paths, like going to university."

The college has already had more than 60 applications for the first intake in September and is accepting others.

It plans to expand the course size to 100 in the second year.

Mr Hampton said: "We will be running two groups, one for what you might call elite players, and the other for anyone who wants to take part."

He added there were hopes the team would become one of the best in the country. Mr Hampton previously coached BHASVIC's side to the national college final.

The academy is the first stage in the development of the City College's sport department. It runs predominantly vocational courses and has not offered any sporting qualifications in the past.

Mr Hampton said he hoped to gradually introduce other sports, with netball, rugby and cricket all possibilities.

The college has close ties with Albion and has plans for a £30 million campus at the stadium, which are subject to funding and planning approval.

City College principal Phil Frier said: "It is generally accepted that Brighton and Hove as a city does not have the kind of sports provision at the level of other cities on the south coast.

"Over the last 12 months we at City College have been trying to do our bit to develop sports courses in the community.

"Sport is a great opportunity to engage hard to reach young people in education and we have worked closely with the Albion in further developing our outreach work."

Comments(27)

stan bailey says...
8:21pm Tue 17 Feb 09

thats just the ticket, a course for no hoper footballers. No doubt they have found a pot of funding pity there was nothing for the Woolie workers.

rayellerton says...
8:31pm Tue 17 Feb 09

If they teach them to play like the first team tonight then i cant see the point....rush rush rush, boot it up, no skill or finesse and schoolboy errors. Pathetic!

NoWaySeriously says...
8:52pm Tue 17 Feb 09

ugh... honestly, there is no talent in this country that hasn't already been snapped up by REAL teams that can ACTUALLY PLAY and can ACTUALLY ORGANISE THEIR KIT.

Voice of the silent Majority says...
9:00pm Tue 17 Feb 09

So as far as I read this someone who has failed to make the grade comes to Brighton and carries on with the same career and if they fail again they go to university!
What happened to getting three A levels and then choosing a course which leads to a career.
Tony Blair and New Labour promised us Education edumacation edmcatin and thats what they have delivered

Osama bin there says...
9:09pm Tue 17 Feb 09

There's no stadium because there's no funding in place - whatever anyone says. So no football academy.
The Argus are in so deep with the whole Falmer thing that they report anything - just as long as it has a positive spin.

The Garden Slug says...
9:13pm Tue 17 Feb 09

FALMER WONT HAPPEN -PERIOD

william of orange says...
9:33pm Tue 17 Feb 09

Courtesy of Companies House...

The Brighton and Hove Albion Football Club Limited
Co Reg 81077
Financial accounts year end June 2007

Operating loss £2.691 Million
Net loss £2.826 Million
Net Liabilities £14.06 Million

Turnover down 21%
Gate receipts down 9%
Commercial activities down 10%
TV & Radio royalties down 40%
Football league distribution down 60%
Average league attendance 5829 down 14%

and in the notes to the accounts...
"Delivery of the new stadium could be impeded by delays in finalising legal agreements, SECURING FUNDING or sorting out planning issues...."

Still no news of funding being sorted then? Nah didn't think so but yet another attempt to claim some tenuous link to education and thereby grab a "pot" of taxpayers cash to build it with by running this story.

I'm not sure its a case of Falmer won't happen "period" Slug...but it's definitely a case of it's going to take longer than people think! The country is months away from bankruptcy...stadium
s will be the last thing on peoples minds before the year is out....unless it's to watch public executions at them for the people who got us in this economic mess.

TheInsider says...
10:01pm Tue 17 Feb 09

Well done William.
With debts like this, if this were any business other than football, it would have been wound up by now.
However, I guess this still could happen as sponsors and banks haven't even got the cash to put their money behind companies they know could make money, let alone hobby companies.


stan bailey says...
10:05pm Tue 17 Feb 09

TheInsider wrote:
Well done William.
With debts like this, if this were any business other than football, it would have been wound up by now.
However, I guess this still could happen as sponsors and banks haven't even got the cash to put their money behind companies they know could make money, let alone hobby companies.

maybe Vic Mears could run his Winter wonderland from the site

Voice of the silent Majority says...
10:07pm Tue 17 Feb 09

Interesting facts William but there was no mention of any assets to off-set the liabilities.
How much does the club lose on a weekly basis?

Guerrero says...
10:13pm Tue 17 Feb 09

stan bailey wrote:
TheInsider wrote: Well done William. With debts like this, if this were any business other than football, it would have been wound up by now. However, I guess this still could happen as sponsors and banks haven't even got the cash to put their money behind companies they know could make money, let alone hobby companies.
maybe Vic Mears could run his Winter wonderland from the site
With Charlie Oatway as his minder.LOL.Gissa job.I can teach how to rip people off and kick them up in the air.
Really amusing.
Security word boot-boys.

midSussex says...
10:40pm Tue 17 Feb 09

Do you have to be miserable, negative and depressing to post on here? Falmer is excellent news for the whole County - football means a great deal to a great many and those of you who have been saying Falmer will never happen hav been proved wroing at every step of the journey so far and will so again. Go do something positive for a change.

GarryNelson'sLeftFoot says...
10:47pm Tue 17 Feb 09

midSussex - they can't do anything positive. Posting their worthless bile on here is the highlight of their lives. They are sad and bitter and what they can't get is that the VAST majority don't give a flying fcuk what they think. I've just watched us lose again, I've had too much wine and I'm in a very bad mood. Go easy on me Wrong William.

TheInsider says...
10:50pm Tue 17 Feb 09

I don't think we need to depress you, you can watch an Albion game to get that feeling.
We are just concerned that we will be asked to pay for something which only a few thousand people will use, every other weekend for a few months of the year.
Give us facilities that the wider community, men and women, the elderly, boys and girls, from across the county, will use such as a proper swimming pool, an athletics track, good quality squash courts and perhaps cricket and football pitches for small clubs. Giving up this slice of land for a local football team is a bit of a niche attraction and not perhaps the best use of the site.

just-a-person says...
11:23pm Tue 17 Feb 09

how very sad some of you are, whats a matter with you people ? this article has skimmed over what the whole course is actually about.the kids cant win !!!! my son has been offered a place on this course but has to take it with another b-tech course also, to gain this he has to have at least three passes at grade c. is that lazy ?? hes estimated 6. sport is his life and wants to persue a career in it, particulary the football industry. its aimed at coaches, refs and physios too. what would be better for my son ?? get a job ?? there arent any, or sit at home and do nothing ?? personally i am proud of him and wish him well, the poor kid cant win and i hope he doesnt have the brains to read some of your comments

william of orange says...
11:36pm Tue 17 Feb 09

Voice of the silent Majority wrote:
Interesting facts William but there was no mention of any assets to off-set the liabilities. How much does the club lose on a weekly basis?

er.. that was NET liabilities ie AFTER any assets have ALREADY been taken into account...!!

The accounts only show the full year not weekly.

stan bailey says...
7:27am Wed 18 Feb 09

just-a-person wrote:
how very sad some of you are, whats a matter with you people ? this article has skimmed over what the whole course is actually about.the kids cant win !!!! my son has been offered a place on this course but has to take it with another b-tech course also, to gain this he has to have at least three passes at grade c. is that lazy ?? hes estimated 6. sport is his life and wants to persue a career in it, particulary the football industry. its aimed at coaches, refs and physios too. what would be better for my son ?? get a job ?? there arent any, or sit at home and do nothing ?? personally i am proud of him and wish him well, the poor kid cant win and i hope he doesnt have the brains to read some of your comments
Sadly this is the problem with the education system, private schools value sport, but academic subjects come first. There has to be a devision between hobbies and career. How many refs and coaches does the country really need, the course is hoping to have a hundred students next year. Is this really going to lead to these jobs, year on year? I think it is unkind to lead young people to believe this, things are hard enough as it is.









pancaker says...
8:56am Wed 18 Feb 09

Pointing out the facts isn't spewing bile. The sad case is no-one in a position to report on it is doing anything to talk about how this is being funded. Nature abhors a vacuum so some people are trying to come up with the facts themselves.

This lack of information results in some fans having a huge concern about what this means for the stadium being built and the long term future of the team. We buy tickets so should be told. It isn't a complicated request.

Meanwhile some anti-stadium people see it as a glimmer of hope that it won't be built, and many neutral people (rightly in my view) resent the idea of such a huge amount of "their" money being spent on something that will be used by an unrepresentative minority.

Swap "£50 million stadium built using public money and used by 10,000" for "£5 million mosque built using public money and used by 1,000" and see how people react. I'm guessing a lot of pro-Falmer people wouldn't want "their" money used to build a mosque in central Brighton but the comparison is a fair one.

This could be simply solved if:

a) the club said how it was going to be funded as they seem confident funding is in place
or
b) the Argus was to investigate and report on it in an inpartial way

When the silence from each party who could stop the speculation and worry is deafening despite this issue being the number 1 comment whenever the stadium is mentioned no-one can be blamed for assuming the worst.

davyboy says...
10:18am Wed 18 Feb 09

i believe that, at some point, falmer will go ahead. when it does, then the city will benefit from a state of the art community stadium which many different groups will use. it is not just for football, but most of you don't seem to have grasped that fact. the albion actually have a very large following, but due to the size of withdean no-one bothers to go. they would probably get 15-20,000 every home game if the facilities were in place to deal with it.

pancaker says...
10:58am Wed 18 Feb 09

davyboy "due to the size of the Withdean" isn't an argument I buy into.

Simple maths - take those 10,000 to 15,000 people you argue follow the Albion and assume each of them went to just 2 or 3 games a season and we would sell out every game. The fact is our paltry attendance figures already include these occasional fans and we've not got much of a reserve fan base to call on these days.

There is absolutely no evidence at all to suggest Falmer will get 15,000 to every home game. A glamour trip to Wembley / Cardiff doesn't work as a comparison to a week in, week out league season.

Yes, this depresses me, but it's the truth.

Osama bin there says...
11:26am Wed 18 Feb 09

just-a-person wrote:
how very sad some of you are, whats a matter with you people ? this article has skimmed over what the whole course is actually about.the kids cant win !!!! my son has been offered a place on this course but has to take it with another b-tech course also, to gain this he has to have at least three passes at grade c. is that lazy ?? hes estimated 6. sport is his life and wants to persue a career in it, particulary the football industry. its aimed at coaches, refs and physios too. what would be better for my son ?? get a job ?? there arent any, or sit at home and do nothing ?? personally i am proud of him and wish him well, the poor kid cant win and i hope he doesnt have the brains to read some of your comments
There are people who post on this board who are interested in finding the story BEHIND the headline - myself included. The Insider and William of Orange are two others. I hope I speak for all of us when I say that lately the Argus seems to be afraid to print anything negative about certain stories. The stadium is one of them.
Willim of Oranges's post above tells you more about the state of the Albion's chances of getting the stadium built than anything written by so called journalists in the Argus. The facts he states are available to anyone with a PC and a little knowledge, but they have never been put forward in any article in the Argus.
So it's not that we are negative. We are just trying to tell the whole story for those that want it.
If you don't want to know - that's fine. Don't read these posts then, and just read what the Argus wants to you read.
I feel sorry for your boy, because without a stadium this is never going to happen, and it seems increasingly unlikely that the stadium will be built on schedule, if at all.

just-a-person says...
11:45am Wed 18 Feb 09

dont feel soory for my boy. i am a proud mum.he would like to coach other kids or be a p.e teacher with the possibility of getting paid to play on a saturday to, along with a job in the week. is that such a bad dream ? why cant he do this ?. all you think about is the superstars but in reality there are hundreds of teams in various leagues who get paid to play. the governments talking all the time about getting our kids fit and healthy and still he gets shot down in flames.regardless of the stadium the course is going ahead.he is the product of a mum who messed up, been threw the local comp and has his sites set on uni too. so dont feel sorry for him. hes worked hard for this and hopefully the start of what he wants from life.

Osama bin there says...
12:29pm Wed 18 Feb 09

just-a-person wrote:
dont feel soory for my boy. i am a proud mum.he would like to coach other kids or be a p.e teacher with the possibility of getting paid to play on a saturday to, along with a job in the week. is that such a bad dream ? why cant he do this ?. all you think about is the superstars but in reality there are hundreds of teams in various leagues who get paid to play. the governments talking all the time about getting our kids fit and healthy and still he gets shot down in flames.regardless of the stadium the course is going ahead.he is the product of a mum who messed up, been threw the local comp and has his sites set on uni too. so dont feel sorry for him. hes worked hard for this and hopefully the start of what he wants from life.
Best of luck to him. I hope he gets what he wants out of life. He's not being shot down in flames by me.

davyboy says...
1:25pm Wed 18 Feb 09

pancaker wrote:
davyboy "due to the size of the Withdean" isn't an argument I buy into.

Simple maths - take those 10,000 to 15,000 people you argue follow the Albion and assume each of them went to just 2 or 3 games a season and we would sell out every game. The fact is our paltry attendance figures already include these occasional fans and we've not got much of a reserve fan base to call on these days.

There is absolutely no evidence at all to suggest Falmer will get 15,000 to every home game. A glamour trip to Wembley / Cardiff doesn't work as a comparison to a week in, week out league season.

Yes, this depresses me, but it's the truth.
if you remember the old goldstone ground, it was packed every week, regardless of results. there is a large fan base around sussex and I am convinced that well over 13000 would turn up at each home game. more punters = more income= better wages= betterplayers willing to come and play for us. what did pi** me off against carlisle was the fact that a player we let go, anyinsah, scored against us. we couldn't offer what ha wanted so he went north. the board need to be prepared to push the boat out on wages to get the right players in, even on loan.

just-a-person says...
1:31pm Wed 18 Feb 09

osama, thank you.

GarryNelson'sLeftFoot says...
1:34pm Wed 18 Feb 09

I still maintain that most of you (apart from Lewes Pancake) who post about the finances don't really care.

This issue is just another opportunity for you to be negative about the stadium. For all those going on about the current state of the Albion I say this. All football teams that are improving or have improved their situation on and off the pitch have invested in modern stadia. The only way that the Albion can improve those figures that Wrong William keeps trotting out is to provide supporters with a decent stadium where they can take their kids and watch in comfort, safety and keep dry! Just look at the fortunes of Hull, who, a decade or so ago, played in front of a few thousand against Wigan. Ten years later they play Wigan in front of 23,000. Look at Swansea, Cardiff, Reading etc (I could go on). I'm not saying that a new stadium is a guarantee of success but at least it gives you the opportunity to move forward.

Say what you like but even if the finances were revealed (and I agree they should be), the anti-mob would just find something else to be negative about. They don't care about the environment, they don't care about planning, they don't care about the finances. They just don't want the stadium to be built.

To all those who love the Albion best wishes. Keep the Faith and don't let the vocal minority spoil the party.

william of orange says...
11:21pm Wed 18 Feb 09


Yes but what a gamble GNLF...all those stadiums you listed opened and traded during a boom.

We currently have "finance being arranged" (whatever that means - bank loans or taxpayer handout??) for a stadium that will open in the depths of a recession (or even a depression).

If the club mortgages itself up to its neck (assuming it finds a friendly banker willing to lend it money - or should I say a banker still able to stand up without laughing after seeing their last accounts!) do you really think it will be able to afford that finance. Within a year or two it could well go under because it has overstretched itself.

Better to be a small minnow in a pond still alive and swimming around than a large fish served up on a bankers dinner plate!

The Depression we are just entering will kill off many football clubs ...Brighton may well be one of those clubs...it has a higher chance of failing if it mortgages itself up to its neck in debt.

Oh and let me be clear on my position...Brighton needs and deserves a stadium...but one that the taxpayer isn't looked at to pay for..I know I may have sometimes got a tad negative but that was more a response to insults from the pro Stadium lobby...you are all very vocal and I applaud your energy and drive but you are all sadly as financially aware as a Northern Rock 125% Together Mortgage customer!

The next few weeks will be very interesting.....one way or the other we will shortly learn who is really paying for this....or whether nobody is and the project is mothballed.


Teacher Luke Hampton and ex-Albion captain Charlie Oatway Teacher Luke Hampton and ex-Albion captain Charlie Oatway

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