They dont have the money or any legal basis to appeal.Now their main backers LDC have pulled out,they know that they have lost and this is their last stupid attempt to cause concern among Albion fans.I am just waiting for the 50 or so stuck up nimbys to come on to this site and abuse Albion fans with all their nonsense about thugs etc.Just face it Falmer nimbys you have lost and nothing you and your very tiny following can do anything to stop us getting the home we deserve.UP THE ALBION

I WONDER IF FALMER ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE TERM "POSITIVE ACTION"

For ****'S sake. This has been looked into time and time again.It will be built in the boundaries of Brighton and Hove that happens to be near Falmer. I had a grudging admiration for those who opposed in Falmer as they genuinly believed that somehow there whole world would fall apart (quite wrongly of course). I agree with Alan that they do not have a leg to stand on. Come on guys . Have some dignity...some self respect..you have lost..to try to extend this is utterly pathetic. If you do and inevitably lose I hope The Albion get as much money out of you as possible

What is wrong with these people,they could never win now.They should be made to pay Albion big money this time.

Posted by: unknown, falmer ,

i dont know were your at really?
falmers part ov b@h?
dont you think that we all need a stadiam and no one wants it in there back yard and your comments seem to me that you think falmer is above brighton? on the snob level any way with all the ( quote)please be aware any future comments/harrasement made against LDC or myself or anybody that lives in falmer i will proceed with legal action. enough enough is enough you got your stadium now leave us alone and stop slagging off the people in falmer please....?
whats all the leave us alone rubbish? you wont be sitting in falmer on sat night will you? your be in brighton wont all the falmer residents be in brighton on a fri/sat night? cos there aint nothing at falmer now is there,
get real mate i think the stadiam will do falmer a power of good?
you might end up with more than one pub.

unknown wrote:
oh ffs its always about brighton & hove what about for the people who live in falmer how do you think they will feel and thier rights have been ignored. we are sick of the comments from you brighton & hove scum on the argos support who have supported it. please be aware any future comments/harrasement made against LDC or myself or anybody that lives in falmer i will proceed with legal action. enough enough is enough you got your stadium now leave us alone and stop slagging off the people in falmer please....

I think that just about sums up the mentality of some of those fighting against this stadium...To call people scum when you do not actually know those making their comments is completely below the belt. When will YOU wake up and realise that this country is a democracy, and you my friend are a small minded individual bent on ruining everything for the majority. If you are that fed up with this saga then crawl back to the hole you came from. We as BHA fans are ready for the fight and I can guarantee you that if your "Friend" chose to take this to the HIgh court, the judge would throw it out straight away and YOU would be made liable to not only pay your own costs, but the clubs, Brighton & Hove Council's and the Government's. Can YOU afford this?

The stadium will be built outside the re-drawn boundaries of the National Park and AONB, so the argument about protecting the so-called AONB no longer holds. Falmer Parish Council should be very happy about the number of conditions attached to the planning permission; they should consider that a success for their campaign and call it a day. As Lewes District Council pointed out, the decision would return to the Government - and two Secretaries of State have already approved it.

unknown wrote:
oh ffs its always about brighton & hove what about for the people who live in falmer how do you think they will feel and thier rights have been ignored. we are sick of the comments from you brighton & hove scum on the argos support who have supported it. please be aware any future comments/harrasement made against LDC or myself or anybody that lives in falmer i will proceed with legal action. enough enough is enough you got your stadium now leave us alone and stop slagging off the people in falmer please....

The rights have not been ignored, they have been considered, otherwise we would have the stadium built already.

We may have the stadium, but this article points towards the fact that FPC and others may intend to proceed with further efforts to block the stadium.

I understand your point of view, but I suspect that we would still be in the dark ages if developments were not built if localised populations were allowed to block everything.

As for being Brighton & Hove scum - I wouldn't consider myself to be, but you may think otherwise.

I have been watching these events from afar and our local team plymouth were allowed to buy the ground back from the council because the local population realised that a succesful team and a community stadium give the community a sense of identity, belonging and much needed revenue to a poor area of the country. Any opponents to this are as you say in Sussex 'Cack Badgers'.

All this hassle from Falmer Parish Council yet the stadium is being built in Brighton and Hove. How is it that they are anything to do with this in the first place?

unknown wrote:
oh ffs its always about brighton & hove what about for the people who live in falmer how do you think they will feel and thier rights have been ignored. we are sick of the comments from you brighton & hove scum on the argos support who have supported it. please be aware any future comments/harrasement made against LDC or myself or anybody that lives in falmer i will proceed with legal action. enough enough is enough you got your stadium now leave us alone and stop slagging off the people in falmer please....

Argos support? Didn't know the catalogue shop was on our side...good for them.

If any action in the High Court is taken by Falmer Parish Council, then the councillors will not lose any money whether they lose or not. It will be the parish council who would have to stump up the money and if they don't have it, well there is always next years council tax increase.

Falmer please do fight the stadium. Do us all a favour and stop it being built!

If I were a Falmer resident, I wouldn't want a bloody great football stadium next the village either! The traffic, litter, noise and crowd-control issues on matchdays are all going to be a nightmare and make the surrounding area WHEREVER the stadium is built unpleasant for those who actually LIVE there. The B&HA supporters who would have their stadium built more or less anywhere just as long as one is built would do well to reflect on just what it is like to actually live next door to a big football stadium. Bet many of them wouldn't want one at the end of their streets (though of course they'll say they would, in the full knowledge that it isn't actually going to happen to them)!

S wrote:
If I were a Falmer resident, I wouldn't want a bloody great football stadium next the village either! The traffic, litter, noise and crowd-control issues on matchdays are all going to be a nightmare and make the surrounding area WHEREVER the stadium is built unpleasant for those who actually LIVE there. The B&HA supporters who would have their stadium built more or less anywhere just as long as one is built would do well to reflect on just what it is like to actually live next door to a big football stadium. Bet many of them wouldn't want one at the end of their streets (though of course they'll say they would, in the full knowledge that it isn't actually going to happen to them)!

No we would not have it anywhere...that's why there have been all these enquiries. Read the plans and you might note all the measures that will be brought in to minimise disruption and noise. Indeed there are strict conditions that the club will have to adhere to...more than any other club in the land I would wager. I used to live near the old Goldstone Ground, which was slap bang in the middle of a built up area. Yes on match days there was some noise and about 1/2 hour of traffic disruption as the crowd left...and that was at a stadium built without any of those factors taken into consideration. This new stadium had to have plans to cater for these 'problems'.The future's bright(but not too bright as the floodlights are designed to keep the vast majority of the light inside the stadium..another fact to be read in the plans if you can be bothered). The futurs is a stadium built on Brighton and Hove land near Falmer (but not on it).

S wrote:
If I were a Falmer resident, I wouldn't want a bloody great football stadium next the village either! The traffic, litter, noise and crowd-control issues on matchdays are all going to be a nightmare and make the surrounding area WHEREVER the stadium is built unpleasant for those who actually LIVE there. The B&HA supporters who would have their stadium built more or less anywhere just as long as one is built would do well to reflect on just what it is like to actually live next door to a big football stadium. Bet many of them wouldn't want one at the end of their streets (though of course they'll say they would, in the full knowledge that it isn't actually going to happen to them)!

Why don't you direct your remarks at the residents of Withdean, who have been neighbours of the Albion for eight years now. Crowd control, parking restrictions, park and ride and voluntary litter patrols by the fans after EVERY match has meant the Withdean residents have had very little, if any, disruption on a match day.

Sadly your comments seem be born out of the usual ill-informed anti-football prejudice that has been a hallmark of this whole saga.

S wrote:
If I were a Falmer resident, I wouldn\'t want a bloody great football stadium next the village either! The traffic, litter, noise and crowd-control issues on matchdays are all going to be a nightmare and make the surrounding area WHEREVER the stadium is built unpleasant for those who actually LIVE there. The B&HA supporters who would have their stadium built more or less anywhere just as long as one is built would do well to reflect on just what it is like to actually live next door to a big football stadium. Bet many of them wouldn\'t want one at the end of their streets (though of course they\'ll say they would, in the full knowledge that it isn\'t actually going to happen to them)!

'S'. Match days are limited, so the occasional bit of noise and disruption. What about all the other grounds around the country? I don't honestly think the locals all whinge and moan all the time. And there are much more attractive places in the country where stadiums are. Falmer's not the be-all and end-all. It's just...there!!!

TO ALL FALMER/LEWES/ ANTI-FALMER STADIUM RESIDENTS go to www.community-advice
.co.uk and sign the petition and back up FALMER PARISH COUNCIL if they continue to take it further and appeal

That site doesn't even WORK, you utter cackbadger.

Typical NIMBY shambles.

TO ALL FALMER/LEWES/ ANTI-FALMER STADIUM RESIDENTS go to www.community-advice


.co.uk and sign the petition and back up FALMER PARISH COUNCIL if they continue to take it further and appeal.


Easy 10 on 2:45pm today
That site doesn't even WORK, you utter cackbadger. Typical NIMBY shambles.

And nor do most of the Falmer residents...if they did work, they'd have less time to moan about the booldy stadium!!!

Cackbadgers indeed!!!

The wife of one of the owners of Forfars is the key antagonist towards Brighton and Hove Albion's quest for a new Community Stadium in Brighton, near Falmer Station. This pledge is intended to show this woman that her actions are unpopular and Brighton fans are not willing to spend money with the enemy-an enemy that is threatening to destroy their football club. This woman's actions (with others) has cost Brighton and Hove Albion MILLIONS OF POUNDS in lost revenues and has delayed the construction of the Community Stadium for years. Her and her fellow anti-stadium campaigners have waged a campaign based on a ficticiously idyllic Sussex village being destroyed by a much needed sports and education facility. Their portrayal of their village is ficticious because the 'village' was sliced in two by the A27. Ficticious because there is already two huge university campuses next to the village. Ficticious because there is a main-line railway running through the already dissected village. This woman and her fellow campaigners are claiming that the stadium will be built on an AONB when in fact it is to be built partly on a muddy field and partly on a brownfield site. A site that is already earmarked for development.

I urge every Brighton fan, every football fan, every sports fan and every Lewes District Council tax payer to Boycott Forfars in a show of protest.

When that online petition is up and running it will be interesting to see how many names you get, not many I would wager, I reckon you will need at least 8000 names for someone at Hazel Blears Dept to even consider it,sure as hell aint going to happen people.

Brighton on my birth certificate, whats on yours.

community advice online wrote:
TO ALL FALMER/LEWES/ ANTI-FALMER STADIUM RESIDENTS go to www.community-advice .co.uk and sign the petition and back up FALMER PARISH COUNCIL if they continue to take it further and appeal

just as well the nimbys have lost. Wouldn't be able to organise a pi55 up in the Swan, this lot.

How do you lot manage to tie your laces in the morning?

Is this accurate about Forfars?

I propose a quiz for those opposed to the stadium...specialist subject spending vast amounts of taxpayers money on a lost cause.

1.Which of these is NOT an AONB?
i)Peak District
ii)Lake District
iii) A brownfield site on the ouskirts of Brighton and Hove near somewhere called Falmer

2.Which of these had a referendum on the matter?
i)Falmer PC
ii)Lewes DC
iii) Brighton and Hove council

3.Which of these when asked to have a free and public vote on the matter went ahead behind closed doors?
i)The Govenment enquiry
ii) Brighton and Hove council
iii)Lewes DC

4.Which of these is capable of filling such a stadium?
i)Lewes FC (no disrespect)
ii) Falmer FC?
iii) Brighton and Hove Albion

5.How many persons opposing the stadium have actuall read the plans
i)The residents of Falmer
ii) Those who come on here with ill informed comments
iii) 0

6.and finally...I've started so I'll finish...what is a Cackbadger?
i) A rare breed of badger only to be found on a brownfield site on Brighton and Hove land on the outskirts of the city
ii) A badger with intestinal problems
iii)Somebody who will not accept defeat with dignity and cannot / will not see the bigger picture

I am in receipt of the minutes of the last FPC meeting where they discussed their concerns about the building of the stadium.

They are as follows;

'kansohriam nasojdh naspihr nasodnbiuha ma; poiwjf aks
1) aosnhaewripanapshrap
iwhasndfisdhgpsd
2) aosndopaiherndafpddn
cosfduihgspd
3)aspdihfpsedfhsdnSA
PDJF
4) dmpaa
5) b&q
6) mfi
7) koansirhbsdf'

There - makes no sense to me - i hope they can make head or tail of it.

Shows what a shambles they are

It is time to resurrect our battle cry:

BAN THE BUN

BAN THE BUN

BAN THE BUN

BAN THE BUN

BAN THE BUN

BAN THE BUN

BAN THE BUN

BAN THE BUN

BAN THE BUN

OK point taken. The advantages of having the stadium out weigh the disadvantages. However it will change falmer forever and brighton people need to respect that. That is the end of it! hopefully the people who live in falmer will get over it. Please no more abuse comments to each other end the of day its going through now and hopefully it will create jobs for people in lewes and falmer. Falmer is in brighton your right but its also is a boundry of lewes distrcit council and therefore they were right to challenge it.

Pastie wrote:
Is this accurate about Forfars?

The hag Cuttress, chief antagonist towards the Albion and its fans is indeed the wife (yeuch) of one of the Forfars directors.

BAN THE BUN.

I have never shopped at forfars anyway, how anyone could go into that one in 7dials, where the old dear, picks her nose & then serves up a piping hot sausage roll (complete with free bogies!) is beyond me!

minky wrote:
I have never shopped at forfars anyway, how anyone could go into that one in 7dials, where the old dear, picks her nose & then serves up a piping hot sausage roll (complete with free bogies!) is beyond me!

Following a referendum in which the villagers were not allowed to vote, the overhaul of two independent planning inspectors and a beer and pie saga involving a former DP we arrive at the decision that was inevitable from the start. Its a sorry and shameful saga but credit goes to the courage of Norman Baker. I hope John Burt and team fight on for this just but uneven battle between a little village and big Labour and fans who are at the bidding of big business. It would be historic but unprecedented for the villages to win

When will the brainless bucolic
wellingtons of Falmer see sense? Why aren't
they protesting about the extension to Brighton Uni(right next to the Stadium)or the ghastly jerry built residential blocks for the feckless students that have been thrown up with many more planned ?

Little Village vs Big Labour wrote:

minky wrote: I have never shopped at forfars anyway, how anyone could go into that one in 7dials, where the old dear, picks her nose & then serves up a piping hot sausage roll (complete with free bogies!) is beyond me!

Following a referendum in which the villagers were not allowed to vote, the overhaul of two independent planning inspectors and a beer and pie saga involving a former DP we arrive at the decision that was inevitable from the start. Its a sorry and shameful saga but credit goes to the courage of Norman Baker. I hope John Burt and team fight on for this just but uneven battle between a little village and big Labour and fans who are at the bidding of big business. It would be historic but unprecedented for the villages to win

Oh what a load of absolute rubbish. This is NOT about party politics. If it were, then please explain to me why the Tory AND Lib Dem councillors on B&H council are supporting the stadium. Please also explain why both David Cameron and Gordon Brown have both pledged their support to the stadium.

Since Mr Pugwash was the only person who made any in depth and well considered replies to my previous posting of this note yesterday, I am goign to publish it again in an attempt to provide some understanding of the 'cack badger' perspective..(!): (I promise I wont use copy any paste any more from here on in..):

Being brought up in Falmer from the age of 18 months, and being someone who has literally hand planted and worked on the farm land that is in question I have closer contact with the territory than most. Having also worked behind the bar at the old Concorde serving beer to the Football Club at it meetings as it went through the Goldstone horror I have also been a first hand witness to the travesties that the club has endured over the years. Since I left school I have lived in Brighton and many of my close friends have been supporters of the club so obviously we have had to park the discussion about Falmer since it is such an emotionally charged issue that there clearly was never going to be a rational an logical agreement between the parties. It literally has been a 'turf war'. I am pleased to say though that we rose above this one issue to remain friends. Football and ‘turf’ are not important enough to loose friends over.

It is sad, however, that there is only one openly biased journalistic viewpoint in Brighton since, if everything the Argus wrote was to be believed, those generations of people in Falmer who have an objection to having their village cut in half, developed, redeveloped and chewed up by the urban sprawl of Brighton, are all mad ‘nimbies’. It is also interesting to note that while far smaller, Falmer historically pre-dates Brighton, and many of the families in the village have been there for hundreds of years. It’s therefore hardly surprising that these so called 'nimbies' are defensive about having their way of life encroached upon by all and any developments – its not an anti football thing.

Indeed you may or may not be surprised to know but over my life my family, and the villagers in Falmer have fought dozens of planning applications for development in and around Falmer in an attempt to preserve their way of life and maintain a distinct boundary between their village and Brighton’s sprawl. It is hardly surprising that they feel 'trodden on' if you look at Falmer now and compare it to when I was a kid: it has been treated as if it wasn't there. It has always been the path of least resistance for green-field development since, by chance, the people of Falmer are not directly represented in Brighton because the boundary between Brighton and Lewes passes between the Village and the proposed development site. This actually made it an easier (despite the 10 year battle) target than Water-hall, Sheepcote or Toad Hole etc.. (‘scuze my spelling)

While there are planning proposals that state that the village will be left intact, and even others that seem not to know about the beautiful and ancient village and think that the university sites ARE Falmer, it is simple to see why the people there have fought so long to preserve their homes and lives, and most importantly the sense of rural country life that has been at the heart of the community in Falmer for many centuries. Now that rural life is going to be directly adjacent to that most Modern of things: A football stadium. No one in their right mind can possibly deny that this is a harsh juxtaposition. No more than building a Portsmouth Stadium in Hove would fit. That much is a simple fact. And while the visitors to the stadium will return to the sanctity of their homes elsewhere, the inhabitants of Falmer will remain juxtaposed to this development. Fancy an airport in your garden???

However, and trying to be considerate of the opposite point of view, I have to agree that, in the failing days of any other community spirit, Football is at least something that can give communities something to 'commune' with. In areas of urban deprivation this may be a positive thing. Although having traveled the country – to many areas of real urban deprivation - producing the live TV and video Conference League coverage for three years I have also regularly seen the very worst side of people that fanatical support can bring out when two communities violently clash over their choice of football team. It is this 'tribalism' that threatens some people, while simultaneously joining others. If you are on the outside of this 'tribe' it is very scary. Particularly if you are a small group who feel that you are not being listened to or considered – perhaps an analogy for the people in Falmer.

The aggressive viewpoints put forward in some discussions, particularly the one sided journalistic 'campaign' that has been whitewashed over Brighton by the Argus, has only served to entrench those in defence of their communities (on both sides). This is not, in my view, a way forward for either side. Falmer has become an obsession for Argus readers and Seagulls fans and I truly believe that better locations were missed and better options not taken simply because the 'pack' had already decided on Falmer and that was that.Tow the line or be relegated….

Finally, I also have to add, that for those who still think that Falmer has no beauty if it doesn’t have a stadium, and for those that simply can't see why the residents have an issue I say this: When I was a kid I lived in Falmer, in my mind in the country, a long way from Brighton. If the stadium ever does get to be built there then Falmer will have become a 'roundabout at the entrance to the car park for the Stadium'. It’s hardly surprising that the community there have fought to retain their dignity, livelihoods and community.

The Seagulls will, and has survived – the lack of stadium hasn’t killed off that over the past decade..

Falmer may be on the point of being lost forever and it will be irreplaceable. You will never convince me that football is as great as the countryside where I was bought up.

And not that it really matters to anyone else but I will never be able to bring my self to enter the stadium.

I am sure you understand.

What a great post and my commiserations to you for the misery you will be put through.

Unfortunately, the fight against the stadium was never going to be won.

Expecting sensible responses from the fans, who are frequently ill informed about the stadium was expecting a bit much as well.

Dorn,
You put your point of view very well, but the fact you write reams does not make it any more of a point than anyone else. The stadium will be built and it will NOT be built in Falmer village. Simple fact. I am sorry you will not be able to enter the stadium and I can understand to an extent as I will not set foot in the Goldstone Retail Park. That's what I grew up with Albion being at the Goldstone...those are my childhood memories (and indeed grown up ones). I grew up in a city where The Albion was a huge part of the community and I sincerley believe it will hit those heights again with the Stadium.I also sincerley believe that the Stadium will have the minimum impact on Falmer just like it does now on the residents of Withdean. Only time will tell...as for Septicman speaking about 'ill-informed' persons it beggers belief with the tosh he(or she) comes up with. A wind up merchant methinks.

Septicman wrote:
What a great post and my commiserations to you for the misery you will be put through. Unfortunately, the fight against the stadium was never going to be won. Expecting sensible responses from the fans, who are frequently ill informed about the stadium was expecting a bit much as well.

Not ill-informed merely a different point of view. You, on the otherhand spread misinformation with your lies. Easy and I have got the measure of you Septic. You're a fraud.

stop absuing each other. the falmer stadium is now going ahead and thats that!!! no more

Septicman wrote:
What a great post and my commiserations to you for the misery you will be put through. Unfortunately, the fight against the stadium was never going to be won. Expecting sensible responses from the fans, who are frequently ill informed about the stadium was expecting a bit much as well.

I looked up the word Septic online using the Cambridge Dictionaries.

'septic - infected by bacteria which produce pus'

Enough said.

What I would like to know is who is paying for Falmer Parish council's legal advice and who would pay for any appeal? Who would pay Brighton and Hove Albion's costs?

Dave wrote:

Septicman wrote: What a great post and my commiserations to you for the misery you will be put through. Unfortunately, the fight against the stadium was never going to be won. Expecting sensible responses from the fans, who are frequently ill informed about the stadium was expecting a bit much as well.

I looked up the word Septic online using the Cambridge Dictionaries. \'septic - infected by bacteria which produce pus\' Enough said.

No. He/She/It's full of sh1t.

buzzer wrote:

Septicman wrote: What a great post and my commiserations to you for the misery you will be put through. Unfortunately, the fight against the stadium was never going to be won. Expecting sensible responses from the fans, who are frequently ill informed about the stadium was expecting a bit much as well.

Not ill-informed merely a different point of view. You, on the otherhand spread misinformation with your lies. Easy and I have got the measure of you Septic. You're a fraud.

You guys make me laugh.

Fraud about what?