Updated: Eight arrested at Brighton May Day protests (From The Argus)
Get involved: Send your news, views, pictures and video by texting SUPIC to 80360 or email us.
Updated: Eight arrested at Brighton May Day protests
9:38am Saturday 30th April 2011 in News By Richard Gurner
Updated: Eight arrested at Brighton May Day protests
An alliance of protest groups took to the streets of Brighton and Hove today for an early May Day protest.
Groups protesting at the May Day “street party and protest” event included Smash EDO, South Coast Climate Camp, Brighton Uncut, Brighton Anarchist Black Cross, Sussex Industrial Workers of the World, No Borders Brighton, Squatters' Network of Brighton, Brighton AntiFascists, Brighton Hunt Saboteurs, students, Queer Mutiny Brighton and Brighton Benefits Campaign.
Previous demonstrations by the same groups had seen big-name shops, banks and restaurants become targets for vandalism or invasion.
The protest began on the seafront near the West Pier at midday.
Over the day police estimate about 200 people took part, and a similar number of police.
Organisers rolled a dice marked with locations in the town to decide where to target first.
The demonstration started as a march, which was "kettled" in Duke Street for some time, before splitting up into several smaller groups.
Parts of the city centre were filled with police vans and lines of officers over the afternoon as protesters ranged through the streets.
The event appeared to have finished by about 4pm, but a group of demonstrators later gathered outside Topshop and Vodafone in Western Road.
They too were "kettled" before being searched by police and escorted to Churchill Square.
Chief Superintendent Graham Bartlett said: "We are happy to facilitate peaceful protest and welcome people coming to the city to express their views.
"Despite public appeals by ourselves and other people to the organisers to consider the consequences of their actions on the local community and businesses, they failed to co-operate and have been intent on causing disruption.
"They refused to follow a procession and broke off into several smaller groups making it difficult for police to provide a safe and secure environment for protesters and the public.
"This was the second protest over the two bank holiday weekends and the actions of the protesters could have impacted on shops and businesses during a difficult financial time.
"We have to balance the rights of the protesters and the rights of others who want to go about their everyday business."
A statement from Sussex Police said eight people were arrested.
They were: a 25-year-old man, who refused to provide his address, on suspicion of violent disorder following the TUC march in London last month; a 23-year-old man from Chiselhurst, Kent, on suspicion of using threatening and abusive language; a 22-year-old woman from Macclesfield, Cheshire and a 28-year-old man from Brighton, both on suspicion of failing to remove face masks; a 30-year-old man, who refused to provide his address, on suspicion of assaulting and obstructing police; a 25-year-old man, who refused to give his address, on suspicion of assault, obstructing and resisting a police officer; an 18-year-old man, who refused to give his address, on suspicion of common assault and using abusive language; a 28-year-old man from Brighton on suspicion of failing to surrender alcohol.
To replay our live multimedia coverage of the day, open our live blog, below.
For full report, pictures, and reaction, buy The Argus on Monday.
Comments(184)
says...
says...
says...
says...
MikhailBakunin
says...
7:34pm Sat 30 Apr 11
Clouded Judgement
says...
8:22pm Sat 30 Apr 11
Protestors hiding their faces ! Nothing 'Peaceful' about them is there.
SO i do hope the usual don't bleet on about Rights to Protest.
Anyway, doesn't the dice with the names of companies that they are going to attack show their intentions.
They are not Peace protestors, they are thugs who want to smash things up and have a pop at the Old Bill.
Security word:
Big-Losers
Fight Back
says...
8:24pm Sat 30 Apr 11
Angryoldman
says...
8:29pm Sat 30 Apr 11
This is a new one! Do you think for one minute that the police would arrest someone for wearing a burka or a Hijab?
No of course they wouldnt!
There will be a lot more civil unrest when people realise that the old, sick and disabled are taking the brunt of the Condem cuts.
intheknowlad
says...
8:34pm Sat 30 Apr 11
At one point a woman pushing a pram was shoved aside by the protesters nearly causing the pram to topple over.
I understand what these people stand for and i agree with alot of what they have to say but all i saw today was a crowd of smelly dirty lowlifes wanting to cause trouble and I think the most common comment from passers by was ''whats this all about?" , i dont think they achieved anything other than alienating themselves from the general public
intheknowlad
says...
8:34pm Sat 30 Apr 11
At one point a woman pushing a pram was shoved aside by the protesters nearly causing the pram to topple over.
I understand what these people stand for and i agree with alot of what they have to say but all i saw today was a crowd of smelly dirty lowlifes wanting to cause trouble and I think the most common comment from passers by was ''whats this all about?" , i dont think they achieved anything other than alienating themselves from the general public
gersuk
says...
8:47pm Sat 30 Apr 11
Angryoldman wrote:Could have been worse,how about "conspiracy to cause a public nuisance"...
Arrested "a 22-year-old woman from Macclesfield, Cheshire and a 28-year-old man from Brighton, both on suspicion of failing to remove face masks"
This is a new one! Do you think for one minute that the police would arrest someone for wearing a burka or a Hijab?
No of course they wouldnt!
There will be a lot more civil unrest when people realise that the old, sick and disabled are taking the brunt of the Condem cuts.
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-england-cam
bridgeshire-13237702
Btn,,You have one eyebrow, play a banjo and have relations with your sister, allegedly.
sussexladybabe
says...
8:55pm Sat 30 Apr 11
Basically, SCUM OF THE EARTH!
Poor old B&H a once fine town and now a city plagued by unwashed filthy trash that live a life on benefits. Sad little scum.
Sussevingian
says...
9:02pm Sat 30 Apr 11
bladesboy
says...
9:04pm Sat 30 Apr 11
Angryoldman
says...
9:09pm Sat 30 Apr 11
sussexladybabe wrote:Yes. It costs millions in benefits to keep one family in a dozen palaces with one 85 year old lady 'trapped in too much space' having to rely on hand outs to heat her 661 rooms in her usual residence.
"Groups protesting at the May Day “street party and protest” event included Smash EDO, South Coast Climate Camp, Brighton Uncut, Brighton Anarchist Black Cross, Sussex Industrial Workers of the World, No Borders Brighton, Squatters' Network of Brighton, Brighton AntiFascists, Brighton Hunt Saboteurs, students, Queer Mutiny Brighton and Brighton Benefits Campaign." Basically, SCUM OF THE EARTH! Poor old B&H a once fine town and now a city plagued by unwashed filthy trash that live a life on benefits. Sad little scum.
However "filthy trash scum of the earth" is a bit strong don't you think.
gersuk
says...
9:11pm Sat 30 Apr 11
Sussevingian wrote:You obviously have not grasped the concept of democracy.
There's a reason Brighton is a magnet for these goombahs. If they tried this stuff in London, Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield, or Birmingham, or a lot of other places, there'd be some cracked skulls. Brighton puts up with it.
Are you elated to The Fuhrer sussexladybabe?
sussexladybabe, not that is an oxymoron. Only in your dreams, eh?
sussexladybabe
says...
9:17pm Sat 30 Apr 11
bladesboy wrote:Absolutely. The majority of B&H residents are decent hard working tax payers and these vermin give our city a bad name. I don't wish to bash the Police but when they arrest some guy singing, "Kung Foo Fighting" as a racial crime, yet let these sewage rats use threatening language on the streets of B&H I'm afraid their interpretation of the law is completely wrong!
I shouldn't need to be writing this, as if legislation was appropriate this whole bunch of miscreants could have been detained and constrained allowing the other 200K population of Brighton to enjoy their sunny Saturday. But instead it seems we are happy to allow the disengaged minority to determine the values and behaviors that everyone else then has to then live with. And even worse we do so wearing kid gloves. A number of people I met today were astounded that the police did not use truncheons to sort the issues much sooner. I fear that if this is allowed to happen again that people may take matters into their own hands!
sussexladybabe
says...
9:19pm Sat 30 Apr 11
Angryoldman wrote:God save the Queen. God save our future King William V and Queen Catherine.
sussexladybabe wrote:Yes. It costs millions in benefits to keep one family in a dozen palaces with one 85 year old lady 'trapped in too much space' having to rely on hand outs to heat her 661 rooms in her usual residence.
"Groups protesting at the May Day “street party and protest” event included Smash EDO, South Coast Climate Camp, Brighton Uncut, Brighton Anarchist Black Cross, Sussex Industrial Workers of the World, No Borders Brighton, Squatters' Network of Brighton, Brighton AntiFascists, Brighton Hunt Saboteurs, students, Queer Mutiny Brighton and Brighton Benefits Campaign." Basically, SCUM OF THE EARTH! Poor old B&H a once fine town and now a city plagued by unwashed filthy trash that live a life on benefits. Sad little scum.
However "filthy trash scum of the earth" is a bit strong don't you think.
bladesboy
says...
9:23pm Sat 30 Apr 11
....................
this is madness
bladesboy
says...
9:25pm Sat 30 Apr 11
Fight Back
says...
9:33pm Sat 30 Apr 11
gersuk wrote:With democracy and free speech comes responsibilities. That includes following the rules laid down for protests and respecting the other peoples right to go about their business unhindered. In this case 200 people, many hiding their faces and shouting obscenities, protested without adhering to those rules in a city with over a thousand times the people their pathetic protest managed to muster. They are not welcome here and should go back to their universities and actually study.
Sussevingian wrote:You obviously have not grasped the concept of democracy.
There's a reason Brighton is a magnet for these goombahs. If they tried this stuff in London, Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield, or Birmingham, or a lot of other places, there'd be some cracked skulls. Brighton puts up with it.
Are you elated to The Fuhrer sussexladybabe?
sussexladybabe, not that is an oxymoron. Only in your dreams, eh?
bladesboy
says...
9:34pm Sat 30 Apr 11
economic model whilst his knackers are resonating!
AmboGuy
says...
9:42pm Sat 30 Apr 11
I've heard that next year there'll be a 'Shoplifters United Movement' and 'Joyriders Front' joining in too!!
bladesboy
says...
9:46pm Sat 30 Apr 11
maynardsg
says...
9:59pm Sat 30 Apr 11
Their ideology is very simple..protest against society but lets take from it....attempt to stop the city at a difficult financial time but make sure they claim their allowances!
Support from the general public..zero
Usual bunch of disparate protestors from the 'havent a clue' party
MikhailBakunin
says...
10:14pm Sat 30 Apr 11
MikhailBakunin
says...
10:18pm Sat 30 Apr 11
MikhailBakunin
says...
10:22pm Sat 30 Apr 11
With democracy comes responsibilities - such as the responsibility to stand up for others fighting back for their basic liberties against the police-state. If you don't exercise these responsibilities, democracy dies. This is why it's largely dead in Britain already - because people like you want the benefits of democracy without the tolerance it entails.
Clouded Judgement
says...
10:25pm Sat 30 Apr 11
I wonder if the Police would have to Police us too or would they keep that lot away. We should be the 'Brightonians Peoples Front' with nothing to do with those 'splitters'. We should go to their usual haunt (Cowley Club, London Road) and treat that place with the same contempt that they have for all the buildings they smash up!
Anyway, one question to all; Since when did we have 'Hunts' in Brighton? I have yet seen anyone wearing Red on Horse back, chasing urban foxes through the streets tooting on their horns with dogs following.... So yet another protesting name that means nothing. Good old Brighton Hunt Saboteurs!
In the sticks
says...
10:27pm Sat 30 Apr 11
Ummmm....
It's not May. Or May Day.
MurrayMint
says...
10:35pm Sat 30 Apr 11
Clouded Judgement
says...
10:35pm Sat 30 Apr 11
MikhailBakunin wrote:MikhailBakunin, Brighton says...
"With democracy and free speech comes responsibilities. That includes following the rules laid down for protests" - that's NOT democracy and free speech, you twit. That's speech as and when the police decide you're allowed to speak - exactly like in China and Libya. With democracy comes responsibilities - such as the responsibility to stand up for others fighting back for their basic liberties against the police-state. If you don't exercise these responsibilities, democracy dies. This is why it's largely dead in Britain already - because people like you want the benefits of democracy without the tolerance it entails.
10:22pm Sat 30 Apr 11
"With democracy and free speech comes responsibilities. That includes following the rules laid down for protests" - that's NOT democracy and free speech, you twit. That's speech as and when the police decide you're allowed to speak - exactly like in China and Libya.
With democracy comes responsibilities - such as the responsibility to stand up for others fighting back for their basic liberties against the police-state. If you don't exercise these responsibilities, democracy dies. This is why it's largely dead in Britain already - because people like you want the benefits of democracy without the tolerance it entails.
Ok here's my side of this odd rant - In China you would have been run over by a tank and in Libya noone would know where you have gone or what happened but i'm sure the weather is nice in a shallow ditch!
Dictators and Communists are not reflection of the UK!
MikhailBakunin
says...
10:39pm Sat 30 Apr 11
Clouded Judgement
says...
10:49pm Sat 30 Apr 11
You don't know me, you don't want to know me, so how do you know how i fight?
"These heroic protestors" don't you mean "Those" in a past tense, taking a stand and dying for a cause that got them where? Becoming a Saint?, Face on a T'Shirt? or maybe those in Libya that you refer too, but can't really identify as they will be executed!
May i say, please think before you write, your point may be valid but it may not be accurate!
MikhailBakunin
says...
10:56pm Sat 30 Apr 11
MikhailBakunin
says...
11:05pm Sat 30 Apr 11
Clouded Judgement
says...
11:07pm Sat 30 Apr 11
Your views are misguided. I think you'll find that the Police not only enforce the law against people but they also help and protect people and their property as required to do so to maintain a Peaceful society or the Queens Peace.
What your talking about is taking the law into your own hands which breaks the law to which we all live under. Regardless of a comment you want to write about this statement remember that each country has their own laws and the general public and visitor obey those laws. All laws are similar where ever you go! eg: You can't kill anyone, you can't steal whats not yours, break/damage whats not yours, harm any one etc etc.
Your rant is a rant. It reminds me of Obi-wan Kenobi 'v' Anakin Skywalker in Star Wars 3. Your thoughts are not of good, they are clouded and misguided and you views are that of the Dark Side of the force! Next you'll be saying that i'm part of the rebel alliance and a traitor, and then ordering one of your minions to take me away, just because i woun't conform to your ideals.
If you don't like whats going on around you, LEAVE! Leave the UK. Someone in the middle-east might want you!
MikhailBakunin
says...
11:20pm Sat 30 Apr 11
Police arrested 55 people for the royal wedding, all but 5 arrested without charge. They were arrested because they were suspected of being proetsters. Police have been "kettling" people today - detaining without charge or trial. These are fascistic human rights violations, therefore police state. If you don't see a police state in Britain then your eyes must be sewn shut. There is police terror on the streets, hundreds of thousands of stops and searches per year, ASBOs banning acts which aren't criminal, people being jailed for "blackmail" just for running campaigns, 200 Muslims in jail for having the wrong political views, student protesters getting 3-year sentences while police who murdered Ian Tomlinson walk free. If it acts like a police state then it's a police state, and if you don't fight it then you're an enemy of freedom.
As to your worship of the "law". In Nazi Germany, it was the law to turn Jews over to the state - it was still absolutely wrong to do so. People have every right to cause damage to fight back against corporations which are committing greater crimes such as building bombs, destroying the planet and evading millions in tax. If you don't condone this then you're a sheep.
And as for leaving, your ilk have ruined the ENTIRE world, so it's not an option any more. As you say, "laws are the same wherever you go" - obey the companies and the thugs in uniform - so why bother leaving? It's the same fight for freedom everywhere. It was not always this way - you would find the contents of indigenous customs vary a lot from your extreme-right model of law for example - but today the capitalists have seized control of the world and homogenised it in their image. We are not going to leave, we are going to fight, until you and your ilk go the way of Hitler and Mussolini.
Clouded Judgement
says...
11:31pm Sat 30 Apr 11
They still sound the same. Your way to fight the system and smash everything around until there is chaos.
Once there is chaos and noone to rule or take control we will be in a lawless society. Basically you are a Barbarian, a Viking, or maybe a member a Mongolian Army under Genghis Khan!
Plunder and pillaging went out years ago!
Fantasma
says...
11:39pm Sat 30 Apr 11
MikhailBakunin
says...
11:40pm Sat 30 Apr 11
Clouded Judgement
says...
11:54pm Sat 30 Apr 11
MikhailBakunin wrote:If we have done that then why on earth is the price of petrol and diesel so high?
What's with invading other countries and stealing their oil, then?
You are a walking argument with only your views as the only views !
Again, think before you type
MikhailBakunin
says...
11:59pm Sat 30 Apr 11
_anonymous_
says...
12:06am Sun 1 May 11
MikhailBakunin
says...
12:18am Sun 1 May 11
It is revealing that your ilk feel the need to spew such bile, filled with constant belittlement and insults - it shows you have no arguments, only your ill-founded sense of self-importance coming from being a good slave.
Hugh Jass
says...
12:19am Sun 1 May 11
MikhailBakunin wrote:http://www.spartacus
Invade countries - steal their oil - raise petrol prices to pay for the wars. Also, look up Coltan in Congo, look up Tar Sands, etc. Capitalism is plunder.
.schoolnet.co.uk/USA
bakunin.htm
"Bakunin enjoyed his time in America, claiming that "the most imperfect republic is a thousand times better than the most enlightened monarchy". He added that the United States and Britain were the "only two great countries" where the people possessed genuine "liberty and political power" where even "the most disinherited and miserable foreigners".
Bakunin completely disagreed with Nechayev's approach to anarchism which .....
"The true revolutionary organization does not foist upon the people any new regulations, orders, styles of life, but merely unleashes their will and gives wide scope to their self-determination and their economic and social organization, which must be created by themselves from below and not from above....
MikhailBakunin, Brighton - Who's the fascist now?
Simply lead a good life by example & you will win more support. We are not idiots & people hate to be preached to......
greegall
says...
12:27am Sun 1 May 11
Angryoldman wrote:Your point's valid.But,wearing a face mask isn't part of any religious dress.
Arrested "a 22-year-old woman from Macclesfield, Cheshire and a 28-year-old man from Brighton, both on suspicion of failing to remove face masks" This is a new one! Do you think for one minute that the police would arrest someone for wearing a burka or a Hijab? No of course they wouldnt! There will be a lot more civil unrest when people realise that the old, sick and disabled are taking the brunt of the Condem cuts.
MikhailBakunin
says...
12:56am Sun 1 May 11
Old Ladys Gin
says...
4:38am Sun 1 May 11
How on earth can that possibly be any kind of offence?
I can't wait for Halloween, New Years Eve or any other fancy dress occasion.
What a load of utter nonesense.
stan bailey
says...
7:34am Sun 1 May 11
greegall wrote:What is the difference in people having religious beliefs and believing in other causes? A major problem is they were stopping people having fun. Nothing can be done thesedays unless people are having fun. They cannot give to charity unless they are having fun. All lesson in schools must be fun. And up roles the Brighton Festival at least this year it does have a serious under tone and it is not just about having fun. Good luck to the protesters I say, thankfully we do not live in Syria
Angryoldman wrote: Arrested "a 22-year-old woman from Macclesfield, Cheshire and a 28-year-old man from Brighton, both on suspicion of failing to remove face masks" This is a new one! Do you think for one minute that the police would arrest someone for wearing a burka or a Hijab? No of course they wouldnt! There will be a lot more civil unrest when people realise that the old, sick and disabled are taking the brunt of the Condem cuts.Your point's valid.But,wearing a face mask isn't part of any religious dress.
JHunty
says...
8:05am Sun 1 May 11
Living in the real world.
says...
8:08am Sun 1 May 11
sussexladybabe
says...
8:42am Sun 1 May 11
Living in the real world. wrote:You are outnumbered, out matched and a bunch of filthy head lice infested street urchins. Try "having a go" against the local football hooligans and you will get squashed.
Hey F@*k the lot off you. I was their protesting and standding up for something and doin what I beleive in - were you? Anyone who calls us 'scum' should come down next time and call it too our faces and we can show them what we are capibal of! I am in SmashEDO and we undarstand that being peacefull gets you nowhere and sometimes you need to fight back against authoraty. We WILL take back the streets , by force if needed, and defeat the police with their vans and dogs and batons. We have a factory that makes bombs in Lewes Rd yet nobody else cares?! Anyone who stands in are way will be pushed aside.
Hugh Jass
says...
8:43am Sun 1 May 11
Living in the real world. wrote:Hey F@*k the lot off you.
Hey F@*k the lot off you. I was their protesting and standding up for something and doin what I beleive in - were you? Anyone who calls us 'scum' should come down next time and call it too our faces and we can show them what we are capibal of! I am in SmashEDO and we undarstand that being peacefull gets you nowhere and sometimes you need to fight back against authoraty. We WILL take back the streets , by force if needed, and defeat the police with their vans and dogs and batons. We have a factory that makes bombs in Lewes Rd yet nobody else cares?! Anyone who stands in are way will be pushed aside.
Hey, **** the lot 'of' you.
I was their protesting and standding up for something and doin what I beleive in - were you?
I was 'there' protesting and standing (One d!) up for something and 'doing' what I beleive in - were you?
Anyone who calls us 'scum' should come down next time and call it too our faces and we can show them what we are capibal of!
Anyone who calls us 'scum' should come down next time and call it to (one o) our faces and we can show them what we are 'capable' of!
I am in SmashEDO and we undarstand that being peacefull gets you nowhere and sometimes you need to fight back against authoraty.
I am in SmashEDO and we 'understand' that being peaceful (one L) gets you nowhere and sometimes you need to fight back against 'authority'.
We WILL take back the streets , by force if needed, and defeat the police with their vans and dogs and batons.
Well done - nothing to report there!
We have a factory that makes bombs in Lewes Rd yet nobody else cares?! Anyone who stands in are way will be pushed aside.
We have a factory that makes bombs in Lewes Rd (Factually incorrect but why let facts get in the way of a misguided mission) yet nobody else cares?! (Again factually incorrect but most of us contribute in other more practical ways such as giving through church, charities, lobbying & voting!)
Anyone who stands in are way will be pushed aside.
Anyone who stands in 'our' way will be pushed aside.
Forcing your unelected & unrepresentative views on the population. Boy, you really have become the fascist you profess so much to loathe.
Living in the real world?
I beg to differ!
bladesboy
says...
8:43am Sun 1 May 11
ps please feel free to post your picture then next time I see you I will know who to engage!
sussexladybabe
says...
8:43am Sun 1 May 11
MikhailBakunin wrote:Take your communist rants and shove them up your Marxist - Socialist little arse.
Oh, your beloved 'going about your everyday business'. It's not in UDHR or ECHR but it's so sacred that it makes police thuggery OK according to you. You know where you can stick your 'everyday business', the resistance to your bigotry will continue unabated.
bladesboy
says...
8:51am Sun 1 May 11
Couldn't agree more with you. If we could get rid of these 'tossers' wouldn't Brighton be absolutely brilliant. Taxes would go down, shop insurance costs would reduce and the residents who actually do want to live here would enjoy the benefits.
MikhailBakunin, why don't you take the ginger bearded **** and both do one, oh and do feel free to post your picture
Joshiman
says...
8:55am Sun 1 May 11
squatters/new age types.A greenie stopped a friend of mine in Hove and asked him to vote green as Hove is being targetted.He told him to clear off.The Greenie then told him to vote labour as the Greenies wereng forces with Labour to get rid of the Tories and liberals.Looks as if the Thugs will be in Hove next.Dont dare come to Shoreham.We dont want any of you lot.Get in your converted buses/vans and move on.
Just Four Cough
says...
9:28am Sun 1 May 11
bladesboy wrote:I wish I knew where you lived ;)
I think its about time that the good folk of Brighton were encouraged to go visit these miscreants on their own turf and perhaps resolve issues once and for all!
monty sidewinder
says...
9:39am Sun 1 May 11
MikhailBakunin wrote:you need to read your own insulting posts - that you have sat and posted on the internet. you are a hypocryte. your views represent those of a very small minority in england. you aim to get your point accross by the use of violence. you have threatened violence against shopkeepers on this forum. you are blinded by your own views and opinions. you are nothing more than a terrorist. i would not be suprised to see the people of brighton turn on you lot next time you show your grubby faces.
At least they aren't wasting their time posting hateful drivel like that on the Internet; instead they are fighting back against oppression.
It is revealing that your ilk feel the need to spew such bile, filled with constant belittlement and insults - it shows you have no arguments, only your ill-founded sense of self-importance coming from being a good slave.
sussexladybabe
says...
9:55am Sun 1 May 11
bladesboy wrote:Believe me, B&H was once a lovely and safe town to live. But since it has been infected with Trotskyite filth (staying on students, drifters and Labour infiltrators) it has become a sad reflection of its former self.
Dear sussexladybabe
Couldn't agree more with you. If we could get rid of these 'tossers' wouldn't Brighton be absolutely brilliant. Taxes would go down, shop insurance costs would reduce and the residents who actually do want to live here would enjoy the benefits.
MikhailBakunin, why don't you take the ginger bearded **** and both do one, oh and do feel free to post your picture
Hopefully after they have all been driven out, it will regain its cheerful self once again.
sussexladybabe
says...
10:03am Sun 1 May 11
Angryoldman wrote:"Do you think for one minute that the police would arrest someone for wearing a burka or a Hijab?
Arrested "a 22-year-old woman from Macclesfield, Cheshire and a 28-year-old man from Brighton, both on suspicion of failing to remove face masks"
This is a new one! Do you think for one minute that the police would arrest someone for wearing a burka or a Hijab?
No of course they wouldnt!
There will be a lot more civil unrest when people realise that the old, sick and disabled are taking the brunt of the Condem cuts.
No of course they wouldnt!"
So the seeds that your masters in the Marxist Party AKA Labour had sown are coming back to kick you up the backside. What goes around comes around!
Just Four Cough
says...
10:08am Sun 1 May 11
bladesboy
says...
10:20am Sun 1 May 11
Just Four Cough wrote:Just Four Cough, Brighton says...
bladesboy wrote:I wish I knew where you lived ;)
I think its about time that the good folk of Brighton were encouraged to go visit these miscreants on their own turf and perhaps resolve issues once and for all!
9:28am Sun 1 May 11
bladesboy wrote:
I think its about time that the good folk of Brighton were encouraged to go visit these miscreants on their own turf and perhaps resolve issues once and for all!
I wish I knew where you lived ;)
I suspect I have found the **** with the ginger beard
Just Four Cough
says...
10:29am Sun 1 May 11
JHunty
says...
10:33am Sun 1 May 11
, well you dont do you? Still telling the lie that there is a factory making bombs in Brighton, a very revealing post from you though, a peace protestor admitting that they are happy to use violence, you dont see the contradiction there? Tell me again when your dissent is imposed on people against their will, what legitimacy does it have? Imposing your minority views on the majority through violence harrasment and intimidation is wrong. What does that make you when you do that? How many people joined your cause today because of your demo? None in fact you have just driven more people away. You were so busy thinking tactically that you lost site of your objective, to get people on your side. Instead of which you just ran around on an ego trip causing as much disruption as you could.
SmashEdo the longest running and therefore least succesful campaign in Brighton.
Suxinthecity
says...
10:41am Sun 1 May 11
bladesboy
says...
10:42am Sun 1 May 11
Just Four Cough wrote:Perhaps with a wash you might not be ginger, feel free to post a picture either way
been looking down your trousers again ?
Wiggum
says...
10:52am Sun 1 May 11
Suxinthecity wrote:@suxinthecity
Well , I attended the march with a couple of colleagues after a hard night shift. I was not affiliated to any group but was exercising my lawful right to peacefully protest against the up coming cuts and possible loss of my job. When asked by members of the public what was I doing I explained this and got a lot of support and cheers. I then fell into conversation with a lovely police man walking along side me who explained to me about their fears of all the cuts and how the "local" police force was going to be restructured as to be based in Haywards Heath. With the loss of around 500 officers. And I quote "I for 1 agree with you and I know a lot of other officers patrolling this march do too." :)
But how do you feel about your march being hijacked by obvious members of the black block movement ? I am all for our right to march and to demonstrate. However, with this march there was no common goal, no dialogue with authorities to confirm your intentions and no overall message in which to promote your cause. It was a mess, it looked a mess, the people attending were to put it bluntly, not the type of people who I want representing the message of 'there is a better world' - Everyone here should do some research into the make up of this march. Black Block ideals are firmly planted in violence and vandalism. They're an anarchist anti-establishment and anti-capitalist movement. I would genuinely like to offer an alternative march in which genuine interest groups can take part and a peaceful, family day can be arranged in which a common cause can be identified. Real workers rights, not 'squatters rights', not 'hunt sabatours' (as far as I know hunting has been banned for years). If anyone can arrange this I think the movement will gain far more sympathy from the general public than the mess that occurred yesterday.
Just Four Cough
says...
10:53am Sun 1 May 11
At least you will have something to do all day
Suxinthecity
says...
11:33am Sun 1 May 11
bobbob94
says...
11:53am Sun 1 May 11
Around 200 people had a demonstration to mark Mayday and oppose the cuts, nothing was smashed up, nobody was hospitalised, there were a few arrests for minor offences, and some temporarily inconvenienced shoppers....
Rose Watson
says...
12:03pm Sun 1 May 11
Ballroom Blitz
says...
12:15pm Sun 1 May 11
MikhailBakunin wrote:Complete nonsense. I've read all your posts and you are a complete **** with no graps of any sort of reality.
"Balancing" the basic human right to protest against the greed of bosses trying to make a fast buck. You couldn't make this stuff up. What next? Torturing people to make them buy more stuff?
I bet you haven't got a jib.
Ballroom Blitz
says...
12:16pm Sun 1 May 11
Ballroom Blitz wrote:or a job...
MikhailBakunin wrote: "Balancing" the basic human right to protest against the greed of bosses trying to make a fast buck. You couldn't make this stuff up. What next? Torturing people to make them buy more stuff?Complete nonsense. I've read all your posts and you are a complete **** with no graps of any sort of reality. I bet you haven't got a jib.
brighton_boy
says...
12:19pm Sun 1 May 11
Living in the real world.
says...
12:21pm Sun 1 May 11
brunswick63
says...
12:24pm Sun 1 May 11
Rose Watson
says...
12:29pm Sun 1 May 11
Many in this country are retired like me, sick, at school or university, caring for children while a partner works, independently (un)wealthy or one of the two and a half million out of work. Do you not know anyone in these categories?
Do you also look down on them from your no doubt high-powered job? Do you think they are all wasters?
JHunty
says...
1:03pm Sun 1 May 11
Livingintherealworld
, you are living in a matrix organised by SmashEdo, Edo in Brighton does not make bombs, you are wrong about that, stop lying. The use of Edos products against the Palestinians has never been proved. Your violence and fanaticism does great harm to the Palestinian cause, it makes it easier for people to paint all Palestinians and their supporters as violent fanatics who cannot be reasoned with, thats why I oppose you and your methods, because I genuinely support the Palestinians and you make it harder to plead their cause. Tell me again how did smashing up parts of the palace pier a couple of years ago help the people in Gaza? Did the Palestinians sleep safer in their beds that night knowing a bunch of fantatics had attacked a McDonalds on their behalf? SmashEdo only started linking Edo to Israel when they realised how deperately unpopular they were and decided to cynically try and use the Palestinians as a way of boosting their support.
Yes Caroline jump on the nearest bandwagon Lucas was here yesterday, flew over specially from Brussels I should think.
Sussevingian
says...
1:14pm Sun 1 May 11
gersuk wrote:You obviously have not grasped facts. It is a fact that in these other places there would be cracked skulls, because they don't put up with it, whereas Brighton does. What you DO with that fact is up to you. It has nothing to do with democracy or fascism. A punch in the face is a punch in the face is a punch in the face, whether it's a fascist or a democrat (whatever that is) who gives it out. Everyone's blood is red no matter what party they belong to. That is a fact.
Sussevingian wrote:You obviously have not grasped the concept of democracy.
There's a reason Brighton is a magnet for these goombahs. If they tried this stuff in London, Manchester, Leeds, Sheffield, or Birmingham, or a lot of other places, there'd be some cracked skulls. Brighton puts up with it.
Are you elated to The Fuhrer sussexladybabe?
sussexladybabe, not that is an oxymoron. Only in your dreams, eh?
bobbob94
says...
1:15pm Sun 1 May 11
bobbob94
says...
1:22pm Sun 1 May 11
you are aware that protests occur in other areas of the country right? you might have heard of rather a large one in London recently. There were anti student fee protests in all the places you mention as "not putting up with it" just a few months ago. There's nothing particularly special about Brighton or the approach of Sussex police to these things...
sambreroyo
says...
1:22pm Sun 1 May 11
The lack of communication with a willing police force speaks volumes.
The people of Brighton have listened but these constant protests are just now becoming a nuisance. Stopping bus services on a busy day, being rowdy and uncooperative and generally being abusive is not going to achieve anything other then a loss of support.
I for one will not show any support to anyone who threatens violence or spews abuse.
There was no clear message or protest yesterday and some of the verbal attacks on police just made me lose any sympathy for anyone protesting.
Small businesses are being affected by these constant 'protests' and protesters need to realise the damage they are causing.
brunswick63
says...
1:56pm Sun 1 May 11
bobbob94 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Caroline Lucas was in attendance; anything pro-immigration/pro-
Caroline Lucas was there? Really? It wasn't reported anywhere that I've seen. Can you link to anything that shows she was or is it just your assumption?
squatting/pro-Palest
inian/pro-criminals 'right's, is bound to attract Dr. Lucas (she probably flew over all the way from Brussels to attend!). Anybody remember her claim that people who make short flights do as much damage as people who stab other people? I wonder how many flights Caroline Lucas makes from her beloved Brussels to attend events such as this?
bladesboy
says...
2:09pm Sun 1 May 11
Living in the real world. wrote:You lot live in cloud cuckoo land with your fancy names and ideals; typical public school kids no doubt, who I imagine feel the need to be seen to visibly shake off the link to mummy and daddy's wealth. If you really believe then stop claiming benefits, disown your inheritances and add some value to society, in a well articulated and constructive way. Wasters!!
One day youll reilise that these 'scum' you are talkking about are doing this for the good of everyone. If you dont like SmashEDO trying to stop EDO making bombs that kills kids in Gaza then shame on you. I sugest that anyone who calls us scum can come down to the next march and visit the SmashEDO lot and we will sort it out man to man. We fight the police and we,ll fight you too. We stand along side MikhailBakunin and his cause and will fight together.
virtuoso
says...
2:22pm Sun 1 May 11
ade1200
says...
2:23pm Sun 1 May 11
If they want to do more than have a bit of fun and a nice day out in Brighton they need to substantiate their claims. Otherwise it is just a waste of everybody's time and achieves nothing.
Brampton_Horritt
says...
2:26pm Sun 1 May 11
It wasn't until we got closer to town that we started noticing the heavy police presence - then suddenly a group of about 25 people in masks came racing towards us, hurling abuse at the Police and physically pushing three of us out of their way - including a 5 year old child.
The kids were upset so we decided to avoid the centre, scrap the shopping plans and head to Pavillion Gardens to grab some food and get out of these people's way.
When we got there, there was another group of people - none of whom looked either sober or hygenic - shouting and swearing at everyone that walked past. Hardly getting any sympathy from the public either!
My young cousins were scared stiff so we decided to head home to calm them down.
Not only did these protestors succeed in driving us out of town - and away from the smaller businesses and restaurants in the Laines which we'd intended on visiting - but also ruined the day for my family - who left Brighton this morning with a pretty negative impression of the place.
I admire the Police's efforts in facilitating people's right to peaceful protest etc, but when these 'people' stop playing by the rules, and end up intimidating the public and hindering local business - the response should be to revoke the protest rights and put their batons to use as they would anywhere else in mainland europe.
Oh, and thanks for ruining my family's weekend. W***ers
bobbob94
says...
2:27pm Sun 1 May 11
brunswick63 wrote:So that'd be a no to Caroline Lucas being there then? And while we're on the subject I believe she travels to Brussels on the Eurostar rather than flying, which isn't exactly surprising for a Green MP....
bobbob94 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Caroline Lucas was in attendance; anything pro-immigration/pro-
Caroline Lucas was there? Really? It wasn't reported anywhere that I've seen. Can you link to anything that shows she was or is it just your assumption?
squatting/pro-Palest
inian/pro-criminals 'right's, is bound to attract Dr. Lucas (she probably flew over all the way from Brussels to attend!). Anybody remember her claim that people who make short flights do as much damage as people who stab other people? I wonder how many flights Caroline Lucas makes from her beloved Brussels to attend events such as this?
bobbob94
says...
2:33pm Sun 1 May 11
ade1200 wrote:I don't think UK Uncut say they are doing anything illegal, that's not really the point. The claim is that those companies use loopholes in tax regulations (and their political influence) to avoid paying vast amounts of corporation tax, and that if those tax avoidence schemes were closed down, a lot of public services facing funding cuts could be saved...
Idiots - all they do is make me want to support these firms. I looked on the UKuncut website for some firm info that these companies were breaking the law...nothing.
If they want to do more than have a bit of fun and a nice day out in Brighton they need to substantiate their claims. Otherwise it is just a waste of everybody's time and achieves nothing.
Rose Watson
says...
2:41pm Sun 1 May 11
Well after a lot of searching. I think I found the only two polls I remember concerning demonstrations in Brighton.
http://www.theargus.
co.uk/news/8685073.L
iveblog__1_500_stude
nts_join_Brighton_ma
rch_against_educatio
n_cuts/
http://www.theargus.
co.uk/news/8455148.S
mash_EDO_policing_bi
ll_to_top___1m/
My memory was that they were only marginally pro-demonstrator but it's clearly more than marginal support for the demonstrations. Not saying you didn't think you saw the poll you mentioned but I couldn't find it and did find two here in black and white that contradict your recollection.
JHunty
says...
2:43pm Sun 1 May 11
Rose Watson
says...
2:55pm Sun 1 May 11
Brampton_Horritt wrote:Brampton_Horritt, Kemp Town
We had relatives come from Wales to visit us yesterday. It was their first time in Brighton, so we took them for a walk through town, show them the city, get some food, do some shopping etc.
It wasn't until we got closer to town that we started noticing the heavy police presence - then suddenly a group of about 25 people in masks came racing towards us, hurling abuse at the Police and physically pushing three of us out of their way - including a 5 year old child.
The kids were upset so we decided to avoid the centre, scrap the shopping plans and head to Pavillion Gardens to grab some food and get out of these people's way.
When we got there, there was another group of people - none of whom looked either sober or hygenic - shouting and swearing at everyone that walked past. Hardly getting any sympathy from the public either!
My young cousins were scared stiff so we decided to head home to calm them down.
Not only did these protestors succeed in driving us out of town - and away from the smaller businesses and restaurants in the Laines which we'd intended on visiting - but also ruined the day for my family - who left Brighton this morning with a pretty negative impression of the place.
I admire the Police's efforts in facilitating people's right to peaceful protest etc, but when these 'people' stop playing by the rules, and end up intimidating the public and hindering local business - the response should be to revoke the protest rights and put their batons to use as they would anywhere else in mainland europe.
Oh, and thanks for ruining my family's weekend. W***ers
It's funny that you complain of foul-language from protesters then sign off your contribution with some foul-language. So we have evidence of the kind of language you use. Do you have evidence that protesters shouted foul-language at passers-by or do we just have to take your word for it?
sussexladybabe
says...
2:57pm Sun 1 May 11
Living in the real world. wrote:"EDO making bombs that kills kids in Gaza then shame on you."
One day youll reilise that these 'scum' you are talkking about are doing this for the good of everyone. If you dont like SmashEDO trying to stop EDO making bombs that kills kids in Gaza then shame on you. I sugest that anyone who calls us scum can come down to the next march and visit the SmashEDO lot and we will sort it out man to man. We fight the police and we,ll fight you too. We stand along side MikhailBakunin and his cause and will fight together.
And the bombed kids in Israel are worthless are they?
I hope the factory makes more explosives because the UK will need them when we rid ourselves of worthless left wing trash like you.
lucifel
says...
3:00pm Sun 1 May 11
Living in the real world. wrote:"I am in SmashEDO and we undarstand that being peacefull gets you nowhere and sometimes you need to fight back against authoraty. "
Hey F@*k the lot off you. I was their protesting and standding up for something and doin what I beleive in - were you? Anyone who calls us 'scum' should come down next time and call it too our faces and we can show them what we are capibal of! I am in SmashEDO and we undarstand that being peacefull gets you nowhere and sometimes you need to fight back against authoraty. We WILL take back the streets , by force if needed, and defeat the police with their vans and dogs and batons. We have a factory that makes bombs in Lewes Rd yet nobody else cares?! Anyone who stands in are way will be pushed aside.
If being peaceful gets you nowhere, whats your problem with weapon factories? Their clientele shares your worldview 100%
Suxinthecity
says...
3:14pm Sun 1 May 11
Magnatron2010
says...
3:22pm Sun 1 May 11
bobbob94 wrote:1) Caroline Lucas flies from Brussels to the UK (reference: interview she gave for 'Stars And Sparks' magazine, 12/03/2010. 2) Caroline Lucas has a chauffeur-driven car that drives her from London to Brighton (when she can actually be bothered to come down). Check Guardian article about her 02/10/2010. She occasionally uses the train, but says that she 'works more efficiently' when driven
brunswick63 wrote:So that'd be a no to Caroline Lucas being there then? And while we're on the subject I believe she travels to Brussels on the Eurostar rather than flying, which isn't exactly surprising for a Green MP....
bobbob94 wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Caroline Lucas was in attendance; anything pro-immigration/pro-
Caroline Lucas was there? Really? It wasn't reported anywhere that I've seen. Can you link to anything that shows she was or is it just your assumption?
squatting/pro-Palest
inian/pro-criminals 'right's, is bound to attract Dr. Lucas (she probably flew over all the way from Brussels to attend!). Anybody remember her claim that people who make short flights do as much damage as people who stab other people? I wonder how many flights Caroline Lucas makes from her beloved Brussels to attend events such as this?
sharpley
says...
3:22pm Sun 1 May 11
sussexladybabe wrote:As people never tire of pointing out, the EDO factory makes bomb release mechanisms, amongst other things, not explosives. So I'm afraid sussexladybabe will have to find other sources of munitions for her fantasy civil war where people are apparently to be murdered for having left wing political views...
Living in the real world. wrote:"EDO making bombs that kills kids in Gaza then shame on you."
One day youll reilise that these 'scum' you are talkking about are doing this for the good of everyone. If you dont like SmashEDO trying to stop EDO making bombs that kills kids in Gaza then shame on you. I sugest that anyone who calls us scum can come down to the next march and visit the SmashEDO lot and we will sort it out man to man. We fight the police and we,ll fight you too. We stand along side MikhailBakunin and his cause and will fight together.
And the bombed kids in Israel are worthless are they?
I hope the factory makes more explosives because the UK will need them when we rid ourselves of worthless left wing trash like you.
Pinochet would be proud of you. Sigh.
bladesboy
says...
4:01pm Sun 1 May 11
neofab
says...
4:43pm Sun 1 May 11
Also - in regards to the comments regarding the EDO factory: Aren't bomb release mechanisms a necessary component in triggering bomb release? Don't bombs kill people? I fail to see your point.
Thanks to The Argus once again for their terrible reporting on the issue. God forbid that any form of moral dissent should inconvenience the middle class of Brighton.
bladesboy
says...
5:00pm Sun 1 May 11
I don't actually think its the middle class on the site, making the comments you refer to. It's working class people like me who work hard every day, contributing positively to society that are fed up with a small minority of tossers ruining everything. I suspect that in the main these protesters are a bunch of upper class toff's who have been given the opportunity to study some of the historical contentions between wealth and oppression and due to lack of intellect cant resolve the fact that nothing is black and white, just grey. As a consequence this has probably caused mental instability, which no doubt fueled by drugs and alcohol (paid for by the tax payer directly or indirectly, or both) and has caused this unacceptable behavior. Get em all banged up, or back to mummy and daddy's!
Oh yes and the next book to study should be 'The Emperor's New Clothes'; read it soon and wake up and smell the coffee
Finally lets have some names and facial pictures (after a wash and hair cut) so we know who to engage!?
fred clause
says...
5:01pm Sun 1 May 11
Fight Back
says...
5:13pm Sun 1 May 11
Living in the real world. wrote:So let me get this right - you are against violence in Gaza ? So am I - the Israeli government are a bunch of murderers - but if I question your motives, beliefs or actions you want to smash my face in ? You truly are an idiot and no better than the Israeli government. It is my RIGHT to disagree with you without being threatened with violence.
One day youll reilise that these 'scum' you are talkking about are doing this for the good of everyone. If you dont like SmashEDO trying to stop EDO making bombs that kills kids in Gaza then shame on you. I sugest that anyone who calls us scum can come down to the next march and visit the SmashEDO lot and we will sort it out man to man. We fight the police and we,ll fight you too. We stand along side MikhailBakunin and his cause and will fight together.
Rose Watson
says...
5:17pm Sun 1 May 11
Fight Back wrote:To be fair he said anyone who calls them scum rather than anyone who disagrees with them. Not quite the same thing.
Living in the real world. wrote:So let me get this right - you are against violence in Gaza ? So am I - the Israeli government are a bunch of murderers - but if I question your motives, beliefs or actions you want to smash my face in ? You truly are an idiot and no better than the Israeli government. It is my RIGHT to disagree with you without being threatened with violence.
One day youll reilise that these 'scum' you are talkking about are doing this for the good of everyone. If you dont like SmashEDO trying to stop EDO making bombs that kills kids in Gaza then shame on you. I sugest that anyone who calls us scum can come down to the next march and visit the SmashEDO lot and we will sort it out man to man. We fight the police and we,ll fight you too. We stand along side MikhailBakunin and his cause and will fight together.
neofab
says...
5:17pm Sun 1 May 11
Whatever class the ignorant and offensive on this page originate from, they betray their arrogance and ignorance with constant reference to the protesters concerned hygiene, dress and style.
Such an easy way to demarcate yourselves from these dissenters isn't it? You the clean, righteous and moral, the rest "filthy", "smelly", "unclean", "scum".
I'm glad you can find satisfaction in contributing positively to the project of this corrupt society, indeed the blinkered five day week routine is arguably the easiest option.
But for those who see the incredible injustice of it all, who risk their own personal safety and time to make a point of that, give them a break eh?
bladesboy
says...
5:23pm Sun 1 May 11
Living in the real world.
says...
5:24pm Sun 1 May 11
All of the protesters out their yesterday are tired of being ignorred. Sometimes you have to take more direct action to get your point across.
bladesboy
says...
5:25pm Sun 1 May 11
Rose Watson
says...
5:32pm Sun 1 May 11
bladesboy wrote:Sorry that makes no sense at all.
Dear Neofab, Please get a copy of the Emperor's New Clothes soonest, read and understand and then you will wake up and smell the coffee and life will be so much better. Initially you may find yourself frustrated by similar people to those you used to believe you were and more importantly their actions!
bladesboy
says...
5:34pm Sun 1 May 11
neofab
says...
5:36pm Sun 1 May 11
However my point still remains.
Perhaps a good Columbian blend could rouse your senses. God knows a wake up call is needed for some.
bladesboy
says...
5:38pm Sun 1 May 11
neofab
says...
5:41pm Sun 1 May 11
dawind
says...
5:42pm Sun 1 May 11
The puerile comments made by some ( you know who you are ) epitimise the cretinous nature of some who are deralict in their duty towards building a furture of which we can all be proud.
It would seem prudent to have a cogent understanding of the issues raised by this march.
What we get are morons requesting photos of people they disagree with. Others (the same old...) accuse people of Marxism or of being an anarchist ( as if this was something to despise ). If they were to acquire a smidgen of knowledge about either they would be entitled to comment however like the fools they are they persist in displaying their ignorance in public. Clue: One is predominately about economics the other is about Democracy ie participatory verses representative. To be shameless enough to quote these terms without knowledge is akin to standing in a forest at night and, on seeing a distant lantern proclaiming, like a fool , that you can now see clearly
Rose Watson
says...
5:45pm Sun 1 May 11
bladesboy
says...
5:46pm Sun 1 May 11
neofab
says...
5:46pm Sun 1 May 11
neofab
says...
5:48pm Sun 1 May 11
bladesboy
says...
5:50pm Sun 1 May 11
Rose Watson
says...
5:55pm Sun 1 May 11
bladesboy wrote:You too since you're no help here. Take it easy reading too many of those fairy stories. They can be mentally challenging.
LOL I shall leave you girls to construct and debate whatever it actually is that you believe in, cause its not clear so far. Enjoy your evenings
brighton****
says...
6:55pm Sun 1 May 11
spider72
says...
7:09pm Sun 1 May 11
neofab
says...
7:15pm Sun 1 May 11
bladesboy
says...
7:28pm Sun 1 May 11
neofab wrote:you are a ****
If this was facebook I'd like.
Rose Watson
says...
7:44pm Sun 1 May 11
bladesboy wrote:Thought you were off reading fairy stories bladesboy.
neofab wrote:you are a ****
If this was facebook I'd like.
Hugh Jass
says...
7:52pm Sun 1 May 11
Living in the real world. wrote:Two wrongs don't make a right!
Sometimes you have to break some eggs to make an ommlett, ever heard that one before?
All of the protesters out their yesterday are tired of being ignorred. Sometimes you have to take more direct action to get your point across.
Ever heard of that one?
hursthill
says...
8:38pm Sun 1 May 11
As many of the smash edo protestors are gay, they should be aware gays are persecuted in gaza, along with feminists and secularists.
Their next protest should be outside the Syrian, Libyan & Bahrain embasies, where 1,000's of protestors have been shot, just for daring to protest.
Rose Watson
says...
8:57pm Sun 1 May 11
hursthill wrote:OK I'm sure many activists look forward to seeing you there.
If smash edo were protesting against arms being sold to the murderous thugs who rule gaza - hamas, then they have my full support. Last week hamas fired an advanced anti-tank missile at a school bus killing a 16 year old Israeli school kid. 12,000 + rockets fired at Israeli civilians by hamas to date.
As many of the smash edo protestors are gay, they should be aware gays are persecuted in gaza, along with feminists and secularists.
Their next protest should be outside the Syrian, Libyan & Bahrain embasies, where 1,000's of protestors have been shot, just for daring to protest.
Just Four Cough
says...
9:56pm Sun 1 May 11
bladesboy wrote:* BITTER NORTHERNER ALERT *
Living in the real world. wrote:You lot live in cloud cuckoo land with your fancy names and ideals; typical public school kids no doubt, who I imagine feel the need to be seen to visibly shake off the link to mummy and daddy's wealth. If you really believe then stop claiming benefits, disown your inheritances and add some value to society, in a well articulated and constructive way. Wasters!!
One day youll reilise that these 'scum' you are talkking about are doing this for the good of everyone. If you dont like SmashEDO trying to stop EDO making bombs that kills kids in Gaza then shame on you. I sugest that anyone who calls us scum can come down to the next march and visit the SmashEDO lot and we will sort it out man to man. We fight the police and we,ll fight you too. We stand along side MikhailBakunin and his cause and will fight together.
bladesboy
says...
8:03am Mon 2 May 11
bladesboy
says...
8:09am Mon 2 May 11
dawind wrote:In less than 20 words please tell us what the primary objective of 'this march' was and how the approach taken was designed to achieve that outcome, you pompous waster. Then please advise whether you were at Eaton, or Marlborough for your idealistic schooling?
There really should be a mental age limit on here. 12 sounds about right.
The puerile comments made by some ( you know who you are ) epitimise the cretinous nature of some who are deralict in their duty towards building a furture of which we can all be proud.
It would seem prudent to have a cogent understanding of the issues raised by this march.
What we get are morons requesting photos of people they disagree with. Others (the same old...) accuse people of Marxism or of being an anarchist ( as if this was something to despise ). If they were to acquire a smidgen of knowledge about either they would be entitled to comment however like the fools they are they persist in displaying their ignorance in public. Clue: One is predominately about economics the other is about Democracy ie participatory verses representative. To be shameless enough to quote these terms without knowledge is akin to standing in a forest at night and, on seeing a distant lantern proclaiming, like a fool , that you can now see clearly
htmltomycss
says...
9:26am Mon 2 May 11
Clouded Judgement
says...
10:30am Mon 2 May 11
htmltomycss wrote:Argus, once you have given video evidence of this request!!!! ... can we then have some coverage of the excessive use of foul language used towards the Police whilst the protestors were walking around Brighton on a busy weekend.
Argus, could we please have some coverage on the excessive force and brutality on the police's side? Not very good journalism to exclude the fact that police were linking arms, facing outwards of the kettle they'd put protesters in, and blindly kicking backwards into the crowd behind them. Truly sickening to have witnessed.
Can you show the reaction of families who turned around and walked away from these protestors. Can we see the anger and hatered on the faces of the protestors (those without masks) who abuse the Police.
Then can we have coverage of when they rolled the dice to decide where to pick on and try to cause damage which shows intent in their criminal activites!
Then can we see who the Police, when they make an arrest, are attacked by other protestors trying to get their 'friends' away from them.
Oh and on the linking arms bits, lets see behind the protestors banners to see how reinforced they are to smash through the Police and general public who get in their way.
Just Four Cough
says...
11:05am Mon 2 May 11
bladesboy wrote:Boys' Model School , Belfast. no land. just lots and lots of wise investments ;) now change the record you boring pr1ck, and bring some argument to the argument. Alll you seem to do is rant like someone who isnt taken very seriously in life. Short man syndrome perhaps ? you seem very 'good' at profiling people. I would hazardm a guess you are middle aged, probably divorced, perhaps even suffering from male pattern baldness. Oh, and lacking any personality.
Brighton, born and schooled. Now 'Just For Cough' you waster was it Eaton, or Marlborough and how much land does daddy have?
bladesboy
says...
11:57am Mon 2 May 11
bladesboy
says...
12:04pm Mon 2 May 11
dawind
says...
12:21pm Mon 2 May 11
bladesboy wrote:Moulsecoomb- infants, juniors and seniors.
dawind wrote:In less than 20 words please tell us what the primary objective of 'this march' was and how the approach taken was designed to achieve that outcome, you pompous waster. Then please advise whether you were at Eaton, or Marlborough for your idealistic schooling?
There really should be a mental age limit on here. 12 sounds about right.
The puerile comments made by some ( you know who you are ) epitimise the cretinous nature of some who are deralict in their duty towards building a furture of which we can all be proud.
It would seem prudent to have a cogent understanding of the issues raised by this march.
What we get are morons requesting photos of people they disagree with. Others (the same old...) accuse people of Marxism or of being an anarchist ( as if this was something to despise ). If they were to acquire a smidgen of knowledge about either they would be entitled to comment however like the fools they are they persist in displaying their ignorance in public. Clue: One is predominately about economics the other is about Democracy ie participatory verses representative. To be shameless enough to quote these terms without knowledge is akin to standing in a forest at night and, on seeing a distant lantern proclaiming, like a fool , that you can now see clearly
Daddy worked in a factory, Mummy worked in a canteen.
The difference between you and I is that I could see a way out from growing into a ****.
bladesboy
says...
12:50pm Mon 2 May 11
Just Four Cough
says...
12:53pm Mon 2 May 11
Just Four Cough
says...
12:55pm Mon 2 May 11
bladesboy
says...
1:10pm Mon 2 May 11
dawind
says...
1:40pm Mon 2 May 11
Freedom, Justice and Dignity.
ie things denied to us in this system.
Therefore change the system.
Cheers Comrade.
Brampton_Horritt
says...
3:45pm Mon 2 May 11
I'm sure you'd have witnessed the screaming and foul language for yourself if you were anywhere near on the day?
Wonder how you'd feel if they decide to disrupt sunny Horsham next year instead - and push and shout at your family??
Rose Watson
says...
4:19pm Mon 2 May 11
Brampton_Horritt wrote:A bit of protest here might be quite nice to wake people up from their torpor - why should Brighton get it all.
@Rose Watson - I can show you three children - aged 3, 5 and 7 - who will confirm they were scared and threatened by the protestors aggressive behaviour and foul language. I can also vouch for four adults who - as a direct result of this march - did not spend any of our hard earned money in Brighton's shops and restaurants.
I'm sure you'd have witnessed the screaming and foul language for yourself if you were anywhere near on the day?
Wonder how you'd feel if they decide to disrupt sunny Horsham next year instead - and push and shout at your family??
Only shouting I saw was at the police and the very occasional abusive passer-by who only got back as good as they gave. Maybe you were one of them - I don't know. Most passers-by were either indifferent or supportive to varying degrees.
Glad you've moderated your language.
AmboGuy
says...
5:53pm Mon 2 May 11
htmltomycss wrote:Well in this age of mobile phones able to take videos this coverage will surely exist if it happened. How long does it take to put something up on YouTube? If you could point us in the direction of where to see it then we'd be more than happy to have a look.
Argus, could we please have some coverage on the excessive force and brutality on the police's side? Not very good journalism to exclude the fact that police were linking arms, facing outwards of the kettle they'd put protesters in, and blindly kicking backwards into the crowd behind them. Truly sickening to have witnessed.
bladesboy
says...
6:45pm Mon 2 May 11
dawind wrote:What a complete load of old bo**ox. Suggest you have another go and be a little more specific. LOL
@ bladesboy
Freedom, Justice and Dignity.
ie things denied to us in this system.
Therefore change the system.
Cheers Comrade.
Living in the real world.
says...
6:56pm Mon 2 May 11
bladesboy
says...
7:05pm Mon 2 May 11
Living in the real world. wrote:You have no mandate to proceed on this basis. crawl back in your posh-kids hole, loser
We tried being peacfull and noone listend. We put up with police brutallity for years and noone notised. We had to start using some violence in our marches as at least you all now take notise and know what our causes are. Every protester hear agrees that peacfull marches just dont work.
bladesboy
says...
7:07pm Mon 2 May 11
bladesboy wrote:ps surely you posh school education, should have prepared you better to accurately spell 4+ letter words?
Living in the real world. wrote:You have no mandate to proceed on this basis. crawl back in your posh-kids hole, loser
We tried being peacfull and noone listend. We put up with police brutallity for years and noone notised. We had to start using some violence in our marches as at least you all now take notise and know what our causes are. Every protester hear agrees that peacfull marches just dont work.
AmboGuy
says...
7:41pm Mon 2 May 11
bladesboy wrote:I am not a 'posh boy'. I am from Croydon , one of Londons least posh subberbs.
bladesboy wrote:ps surely you posh school education, should have prepared you better to accurately spell 4+ letter words?Living in the real world. wrote: We tried being peacfull and noone listend. We put up with police brutallity for years and noone notised. We had to start using some violence in our marches as at least you all now take notise and know what our causes are. Every protester hear agrees that peacfull marches just dont work.You have no mandate to proceed on this basis. crawl back in your posh-kids hole, loser
bladesboy
says...
7:44pm Mon 2 May 11
AmboGuy
says...
7:49pm Mon 2 May 11
AmboGuy wrote:Hi Folks,
bladesboy wrote:I am not a 'posh boy'. I am from Croydon , one of Londons least posh subberbs.bladesboy wrote:ps surely you posh school education, should have prepared you better to accurately spell 4+ letter words?Living in the real world. wrote: We tried being peacfull and noone listend. We put up with police brutallity for years and noone notised. We had to start using some violence in our marches as at least you all now take notise and know what our causes are. Every protester hear agrees that peacfull marches just dont work.You have no mandate to proceed on this basis. crawl back in your posh-kids hole, loser
Please please ignore my last comment. My 'hilarious' mate decided to post under my name after I had just logged in.
What I was going to say was that Living in the real world is really showing his true colours now and is a nasty piece of work.
Tip: Never leave your PC unattended when you go to the loo!!!!! Excuse me while I now slap him!
Rose Watson
says...
8:12pm Mon 2 May 11
AmboGuy wrote:Or perhaps you're posting slightly violent comments making it look like they're coming from a genuine protester.
AmboGuy wrote:Hi Folks,
bladesboy wrote:I am not a 'posh boy'. I am from Croydon , one of Londons least posh subberbs.bladesboy wrote:ps surely you posh school education, should have prepared you better to accurately spell 4+ letter words?Living in the real world. wrote: We tried being peacfull and noone listend. We put up with police brutallity for years and noone notised. We had to start using some violence in our marches as at least you all now take notise and know what our causes are. Every protester hear agrees that peacfull marches just dont work.You have no mandate to proceed on this basis. crawl back in your posh-kids hole, loser
Please please ignore my last comment. My 'hilarious' mate decided to post under my name after I had just logged in.
What I was going to say was that Living in the real world is really showing his true colours now and is a nasty piece of work.
Tip: Never leave your PC unattended when you go to the loo!!!!! Excuse me while I now slap him!
AmboGuy
says...
8:49pm Mon 2 May 11
Rose Watson wrote:Oh dear, just because I don't agree with your views you resort to accusations like this - very sad and a cheap shot.
AmboGuy wrote:Or perhaps you're posting slightly violent comments making it look like they're coming from a genuine protester.AmboGuy wrote:Hi Folks, Please please ignore my last comment. My 'hilarious' mate decided to post under my name after I had just logged in. What I was going to say was that Living in the real world is really showing his true colours now and is a nasty piece of work. Tip: Never leave your PC unattended when you go to the loo!!!!! Excuse me while I now slap him!bladesboy wrote:I am not a 'posh boy'. I am from Croydon , one of Londons least posh subberbs.bladesboy wrote:ps surely you posh school education, should have prepared you better to accurately spell 4+ letter words?Living in the real world. wrote: We tried being peacfull and noone listend. We put up with police brutallity for years and noone notised. We had to start using some violence in our marches as at least you all now take notise and know what our causes are. Every protester hear agrees that peacfull marches just dont work.You have no mandate to proceed on this basis. crawl back in your posh-kids hole, loser
Unlike this idiot I can spell and clearly had an education. If you look at some of my other posts you'll know that I live and work in Brighton (that's why I care about my city getting smashed up by protesters).
Living in the real world.
says...
9:14pm Mon 2 May 11
AmboGuy wrote:Why Croydon Amboguy?? Why did you deside to say this? Born and lived in Moulsecoomb all my life. Not posh, parents got no money I don't have much either. There is no sillver spoon Bladeboy! you???
bladesboy wrote:I am not a 'posh boy'. I am from Croydon , one of Londons least posh subberbs.bladesboy wrote:ps surely you posh school education, should have prepared you better to accurately spell 4+ letter words?Living in the real world. wrote: We tried being peacfull and noone listend. We put up with police brutallity for years and noone notised. We had to start using some violence in our marches as at least you all now take notise and know what our causes are. Every protester hear agrees that peacfull marches just dont work.You have no mandate to proceed on this basis. crawl back in your posh-kids hole, loser
Rose Watson
says...
10:20pm Mon 2 May 11
AmboGuy wrote:Yea we believe you Amboguy. If it was your mate why did he make the comment he did? You have to admit it looks a bit weird.
Rose Watson wrote:Oh dear, just because I don't agree with your views you resort to accusations like this - very sad and a cheap shot.
AmboGuy wrote:Or perhaps you're posting slightly violent comments making it look like they're coming from a genuine protester.AmboGuy wrote:Hi Folks, Please please ignore my last comment. My 'hilarious' mate decided to post under my name after I had just logged in. What I was going to say was that Living in the real world is really showing his true colours now and is a nasty piece of work. Tip: Never leave your PC unattended when you go to the loo!!!!! Excuse me while I now slap him!bladesboy wrote:I am not a 'posh boy'. I am from Croydon , one of Londons least posh subberbs.bladesboy wrote:ps surely you posh school education, should have prepared you better to accurately spell 4+ letter words?Living in the real world. wrote: We tried being peacfull and noone listend. We put up with police brutallity for years and noone notised. We had to start using some violence in our marches as at least you all now take notise and know what our causes are. Every protester hear agrees that peacfull marches just dont work.You have no mandate to proceed on this basis. crawl back in your posh-kids hole, loser
Unlike this idiot I can spell and clearly had an education. If you look at some of my other posts you'll know that I live and work in Brighton (that's why I care about my city getting smashed up by protesters).
And just bcos the speling aint write dosn't meen its some one else.
AngelicDevil
says...
10:29pm Mon 2 May 11
It's a disgusting way to behave. By using violence you lose. I don't care about your "cause" because you're now ruining it for the majority. You're losing your voice and making people angry and fed up. You guys are in the minority. Most people are realistic enough to see that capitalism works. Without it you guys wouldn't have your benefits.
You think this is a police state??? Get a grip. Go and google "police state".
Champagne socialists, absolute bigots. Met a few in my life time, all had their inheritance from mummy/daddy yet bleat on about how all inheritance should go to the state, sorry but my parents worked to earn that money so should choose exactly where it goes, definitely not into your sponging pockets.
Stop being such hypocrits and take a good look at the country you actually live in that allows you your freedom.
Violent, rude protestors deserve everything they get from the police. Don't complain about being "kettled" when you should be well aware of the consequences to your actions.
AmboGuy
says...
11:13pm Mon 2 May 11
Rose Watson wrote:Because he thought it would be funny Rose. I was telling him about this SmashEDO idiot and all the stupid comments he'd been making. He saw his chance and did it as a wind up as that's the kind of stuff he does for kicks.
AmboGuy wrote:Yea we believe you Amboguy. If it was your mate why did he make the comment he did? You have to admit it looks a bit weird. And just bcos the speling aint write dosn't meen its some one else.Rose Watson wrote:Oh dear, just because I don't agree with your views you resort to accusations like this - very sad and a cheap shot. Unlike this idiot I can spell and clearly had an education. If you look at some of my other posts you'll know that I live and work in Brighton (that's why I care about my city getting smashed up by protesters).AmboGuy wrote:Or perhaps you're posting slightly violent comments making it look like they're coming from a genuine protester.AmboGuy wrote:Hi Folks, Please please ignore my last comment. My 'hilarious' mate decided to post under my name after I had just logged in. What I was going to say was that Living in the real world is really showing his true colours now and is a nasty piece of work. Tip: Never leave your PC unattended when you go to the loo!!!!! Excuse me while I now slap him!bladesboy wrote:I am not a 'posh boy'. I am from Croydon , one of Londons least posh subberbs.bladesboy wrote:ps surely you posh school education, should have prepared you better to accurately spell 4+ letter words?Living in the real world. wrote: We tried being peacfull and noone listend. We put up with police brutallity for years and noone notised. We had to start using some violence in our marches as at least you all now take notise and know what our causes are. Every protester hear agrees that peacfull marches just dont work.You have no mandate to proceed on this basis. crawl back in your posh-kids hole, loser
I can see that humour (whether it's any good or not) clearly doesn't feature much in your life and I'm sorry that's the case.
Anyway, could you try and stay on topic please.
Rose Watson
says...
11:52am Tue 3 May 11
AmboGuy wrote:Bless you dear. I can assure you I have plenty of humour and many other good things in my life (in case you're worried).
Rose Watson wrote:Because he thought it would be funny Rose. I was telling him about this SmashEDO idiot and all the stupid comments he'd been making. He saw his chance and did it as a wind up as that's the kind of stuff he does for kicks.
AmboGuy wrote:Yea we believe you Amboguy. If it was your mate why did he make the comment he did? You have to admit it looks a bit weird. And just bcos the speling aint write dosn't meen its some one else.Rose Watson wrote:Oh dear, just because I don't agree with your views you resort to accusations like this - very sad and a cheap shot. Unlike this idiot I can spell and clearly had an education. If you look at some of my other posts you'll know that I live and work in Brighton (that's why I care about my city getting smashed up by protesters).AmboGuy wrote:Or perhaps you're posting slightly violent comments making it look like they're coming from a genuine protester.AmboGuy wrote:Hi Folks, Please please ignore my last comment. My 'hilarious' mate decided to post under my name after I had just logged in. What I was going to say was that Living in the real world is really showing his true colours now and is a nasty piece of work. Tip: Never leave your PC unattended when you go to the loo!!!!! Excuse me while I now slap him!bladesboy wrote:I am not a 'posh boy'. I am from Croydon , one of Londons least posh subberbs.bladesboy wrote:ps surely you posh school education, should have prepared you better to accurately spell 4+ letter words?Living in the real world. wrote: We tried being peacfull and noone listend. We put up with police brutallity for years and noone notised. We had to start using some violence in our marches as at least you all now take notise and know what our causes are. Every protester hear agrees that peacfull marches just dont work.You have no mandate to proceed on this basis. crawl back in your posh-kids hole, loser
I can see that humour (whether it's any good or not) clearly doesn't feature much in your life and I'm sorry that's the case.
Anyway, could you try and stay on topic please.
But I still can't quite see why he said what he actually said and how it makes it a wind up.
Other mailing lists have been shown to have been contributed by people (sometimes police) posing as activists making extreme statements.
Just to vindicate you probably worth me contacting the Argus and if they agree it looks a bit strange they can quickly check the IP Addresses then we can see if you and "Living in the real world" really are one and the same. He does seem to have gone very quiet anyway. If it really was your mate then it'll be no problem.
AmboGuy
says...
12:07pm Tue 3 May 11
Rose Watson wrote:Rose Rose it isn't a problem - calm down dear. Ok you contact The Argus and let me know anyway, you're taking this very seriously you need to relax. If you can't see why a mate (also a work collegue) would post to make out I was a slightly chavvy protester (no offence) then maybe you should ask a freind to explain it to you. Has Living in... gone quiet? He's only put a few posts up (albeit all of them stupid) on this forum so I don't really think so.
AmboGuy wrote:Bless you dear. I can assure you I have plenty of humour and many other good things in my life (in case you're worried). But I still can't quite see why he said what he actually said and how it makes it a wind up. Other mailing lists have been shown to have been contributed by people (sometimes police) posing as activists making extreme statements. Just to vindicate you probably worth me contacting the Argus and if they agree it looks a bit strange they can quickly check the IP Addresses then we can see if you and "Living in the real world" really are one and the same. He does seem to have gone very quiet anyway. If it really was your mate then it'll be no problem.Rose Watson wrote:Because he thought it would be funny Rose. I was telling him about this SmashEDO idiot and all the stupid comments he'd been making. He saw his chance and did it as a wind up as that's the kind of stuff he does for kicks. I can see that humour (whether it's any good or not) clearly doesn't feature much in your life and I'm sorry that's the case. Anyway, could you try and stay on topic please.AmboGuy wrote:Yea we believe you Amboguy. If it was your mate why did he make the comment he did? You have to admit it looks a bit weird. And just bcos the speling aint write dosn't meen its some one else.Rose Watson wrote:Oh dear, just because I don't agree with your views you resort to accusations like this - very sad and a cheap shot. Unlike this idiot I can spell and clearly had an education. If you look at some of my other posts you'll know that I live and work in Brighton (that's why I care about my city getting smashed up by protesters).AmboGuy wrote:Or perhaps you're posting slightly violent comments making it look like they're coming from a genuine protester.AmboGuy wrote:Hi Folks, Please please ignore my last comment. My 'hilarious' mate decided to post under my name after I had just logged in. What I was going to say was that Living in the real world is really showing his true colours now and is a nasty piece of work. Tip: Never leave your PC unattended when you go to the loo!!!!! Excuse me while I now slap him!bladesboy wrote:I am not a 'posh boy'. I am from Croydon , one of Londons least posh subberbs.bladesboy wrote:ps surely you posh school education, should have prepared you better to accurately spell 4+ letter words?Living in the real world. wrote: We tried being peacfull and noone listend. We put up with police brutallity for years and noone notised. We had to start using some violence in our marches as at least you all now take notise and know what our causes are. Every protester hear agrees that peacfull marches just dont work.You have no mandate to proceed on this basis. crawl back in your posh-kids hole, loser
Anyway, as I said in my last post, please try to keep on topic. Do you have anything more to contribute to the discussion?
Rose Watson
says...
12:29pm Tue 3 May 11
But anyway. It's out of my hands now so I need say or do no more.
AmboGuy
says...
12:59pm Tue 3 May 11
Anyway I'll bring us back on topic then shall I as you seem to have no interest contributing anymore.
I think that the protesters sometimes need to think what would they think if this was THEIR home town? I'm sure some are from B&H but lots aren't. How would they like it if it was their city constantly being brought to a standstill? I live here so I have to see the mayhem caused and the damage and rubbish left behind. I simply don't understand why they can't pick any other big places to protest, Eastbourne or Hastings for example??? I really don't wish this on those places but why is it ALWAYS Brighton? As one of the previous comments said he had family over and they witnessed disgusting behaviour from some of these protesters. It really doesn't make me proud to be a resident here sometimes when idiots like this constantly protest here.
Ashles
says...
1:07pm Tue 3 May 11
Living in the real world. wrote:But what point are you trying to make? That's the real failure of the protests - I am genuinely unclear what point was trying to be made.
We tried being peacfull and noone listend. We put up with police brutallity for years and noone notised. We had to start using some violence in our marches as at least you all now take notise and know what our causes are. Every protester hear agrees that peacfull marches just dont work.
Surely SmashEDO is not actually anti-weapons (it would naive to the point of stupidity to believe we should abolish weapon production) so presumably it is more pro Palestine, anti-Israel then? Wouldn't it make sense then to focus on that? Protest outside the Israeli embassy. Form pressure groups on MPs who actually make decisions about military action (hint these decisions don't rest with the Brighton branches of Sainsbury's).
Also as pointed out above, why not other Middle Eastern concerns?
I picked up some ecological concerns (but again what specifics are being requested).
Then there are the protests against cuts. Okay fine, but what alternatives would you like? Simply NO cuts? How would that work? There have to be cuts somewhere.
I will support an alternative to public sector cuts if it is a viable one - but what is being proposed?
Ultimately an unfocused protest by a minority (and at the moment it is a minority) is going to achieve nothing. Even less if they add violence.
The attempt to cast themselves in the light of heroic fighters for freedom just doesn't work without some form of viable alternatives being suggested.
The net result of this march is surely absolutely zero towards any of the concenrs being raised, and probably overall a alienating the average people on the street.
Rose Watson
says...
1:19pm Tue 3 May 11
Ashles
says...
1:35pm Tue 3 May 11
Is that correct?
Ashles
says...
1:37pm Tue 3 May 11
Smash EDO, South Coast Climate Camp, Brighton Uncut, Brighton Anarchist Black Cross, Sussex Industrial Workers of the World, No Borders Brighton, Squatters' Network of Brighton, Brighton AntiFascists, Brighton Hunt Saboteurs, students, Queer Mutiny Brighton and Brighton Benefits Campaign...... but no NVDA.
Rose Watson
says...
1:50pm Tue 3 May 11
From his posts "Living in the real world" doesn't seem to understand the "non-violent" bit so not sure he's the best person to ask about their other aims and beliefs.
Ashles
says...
1:59pm Tue 3 May 11
I ask you the same questions then.
What are the specific goals or aims of the protest?
Rose Watson
says...
2:28pm Tue 3 May 11
Violence was initiated by the police who are trained in such ways. I've seen it time after time. People repeatedly make claims about protests being unpopular (see earlier post by JHunty and its rebuttal) or being violent but I have yet to see any evidence.
As for the goals and aims - although I am broadly sympathetic to some of the groups I was merely a by-stander so do not feel qualified to comment on their behalf. Frankly I don't know what their aims were on that day and I'm sure the aims of individual groups varied so I can't possibly speak for them.
However I can say as an individual and on my own behalf that it as important to exercise our right to protest and from what I saw and later been told and seen on video there would have been a lot less disruption if the police had not been so heavy handed and stopped the march in its tracks thus increasing the tension and anger of both protesters and passers-by. The horses and police forming a line in Churchill Square was pure farce.
Living in the real world.
says...
2:43pm Tue 3 May 11
It is the thinkking of ALOT of protesters that NVDA does not work!! It never worked before and it wont now. People who think it works live in cloud cukoo land!
Rose Watson
says...
4:22pm Tue 3 May 11
Living in the real world. wrote:Ha ha! Nice try.
Whats up Ambo guy you trying to become a member in SmashEDO? You want to be me , well why not join are group were allways looking for new members!!!!!!!!!!
It is the thinkking of ALOT of protesters that NVDA does not work!! It never worked before and it wont now. People who think it works live in cloud cukoo land!
AmboGuy
says...
5:19pm Tue 3 May 11
Ashles wrote:They'll never give you an answer to that I'm afraid. I've asked countless times what they hope to achieve, what their overall message is and I get politicians answers. They'll avoid answering me, answer my question with their own question or just pretend they didn't see it. You're bashing your head against a brick wall if you think they'll answer you.
Then it's doubly unfortunate that these protests are being hijacked by a small minority of violent protesters and linking the protests with potential violence and destruction. I ask you the same questions then. What are the specific goals or aims of the protest?
bladesboy
says...
7:19pm Tue 3 May 11
My personal summary of what I have heard and gleaned is that there are a small number of faceless, mindless morons, who cant specify what their issues and hopes are and accordingly don't understand why people aren't listening to them and have become disengaged.
Their solution is both naive and ridiculous as without that clarity of purpose and reasoned argument they are failing to influence and gain support from others and indeed have further marginalised themselves by their posh kid playground actions.
The good news for all is as they grow older they will inherit huge wealth (they are all posh kids) and will mysteriously forget about their previous causes and no doubt the few working class chums they had made and all has gone before.
The bad news is that in many cases their children will have no discipline and will lack common decency and will fill the gap their parents leave behind.............
Oh joy, cant wait to watch the cycle repeat itself.
I am still as keen as mustard to have facial photo's of the disengaged so we can maybe show our appreciation of them if we have the fortune of bumping into them in the street.
Could we please? No of course not, faceless, mindless morons wouldn't want that!
THE END!
AmboGuy
says...
9:34pm Tue 3 May 11
WakeUpYouFreaks!
says...
12:19pm Wed 4 May 11
- And now, because he thinks that it is a) his job as self appointed moderator, and b) due to a strange obsessive compulsive disorder of which he seems to suffer, he thinks that by shouting 'THE END!' he can have the last word.
So very foolish.... if only he realised how much he regularly contradicts his own forum 'ground rules' that he often slates everybody else for breaking, regardless of whether their opinions fall on his side of the argument or not. No doubt i will be branded a public school posho for pointing this out... oh, if only you knew.... hahaha.
Rose Watson
says...
4:39pm Wed 4 May 11
Just Four Cough
says...
6:57pm Wed 4 May 11
Unfortunately, I must remain faceless until the Argus affords us the luxury of profile pictures for anyone commentating on the stories.....
Oh well, better get on with life....
bladesboy
says...
12:06am Fri 6 May 11
Just Four Cough wrote:What a pair of idiots
WakeUpYouFreaks just told it like it is, well done sir!
Unfortunately, I must remain faceless until the Argus affords us the luxury of profile pictures for anyone commentating on the stories.....
Oh well, better get on with life....
WakeUpYouFreaks!
says...
1:39pm Fri 6 May 11
bladesboy wrote:BINGO! Maybe you should scroll back and read through your own comments again before you make such statements. It appears that all of the evidence, in regards to idiocy, is dotted throughout this thread underneath your name. Are you not embarrassed that you made so many thinly veiled threats of violence?
Just Four Cough wrote: WakeUpYouFreaks just told it like it is, well done sir! Unfortunately, I must remain faceless until the Argus affords us the luxury of profile pictures for anyone commentating on the stories..... Oh well, better get on with life....What a pair of idiots
bladesboy
says...
6:19am Sat 7 May 11
WakeUpYouFreaks! wrote:No need to as unlike you, you waster, I have complete clarity over everything I have stated.
bladesboy wrote:BINGO! Maybe you should scroll back and read through your own comments again before you make such statements. It appears that all of the evidence, in regards to idiocy, is dotted throughout this thread underneath your name. Are you not embarrassed that you made so many thinly veiled threats of violence?
Just Four Cough wrote: WakeUpYouFreaks just told it like it is, well done sir! Unfortunately, I must remain faceless until the Argus affords us the luxury of profile pictures for anyone commentating on the stories..... Oh well, better get on with life....What a pair of idiots
Maybe you should stop hiding behind a ridiculous screen name, when making your inane comments, or better still only make them when you understand and can articulate what it is you believe in. Ha ha ha
Just Four Cough
says...
6:25am Sat 7 May 11
bladesboy
says...
7:31am Sat 7 May 11
Just Four Cough wrote:Hoisted by her own petard, can't even string a sentence together and feels the need to disrespect the working population. A typical faceless posh kid tactic!
hurry up and get to work dickhead, people need ther mc breakfast
says...