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    JHunty wrote:
    Ben Duncan should be a bit careful here, he has denied that he is a supporter of Smash Edo, yet he has consistently supported them in both thought and deed.
    He has clearly shown his support for Smash Edo in the amendment he tabled at the last council meeting, trying to get on record the spurious claim that Edo sell arms to the Israelis that have been used to oppress the Palestinians, he has attended numerous Smash Edo demos, he was the councillor who handed in a petition from Smash Edo a few years ago to a council meeting, though he claimed not to know the person who handed him the petition, he has consistently used his blog to propagate Smash Edo propaganda,(the police are responsible for all the disruption at Smash Edo demos, err no they are not it is Smash Edos refusal to notify police in advance of their intentions that forces the police to provide enough officers for a worst case scenario)
    He is the only member of the Sussex police authority to have had 6 yes count them 6, complaints made against him.

    Cut and paste this link to see how Ben Duncan tried to turn a motion condemning Smash Edo into one that supported them. Please can someone from the Green party come on here and explain why they support a group who has members that have threatened the murder of the manager of Edo and his children.

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    Threats to murder is a pretty serious allegation to make. You should clarify that statement as you obviously know the circumstances.

    Someone told me that they'd seen you post on another site claiming to be a policeman (I think they said it was the Guardian site). If that is true I think there is a real conflict of interest in you posting here. Especially making such accusations without clarification and it would, I'd have thought, be a disciplinary matter and might be of interest to the press.

    That is if it is true that you are a policeman of course and I'm prepared to be corrected here. But given your apparent level of knowledge I wouldn't be surprised if it were true.
    Well doing a bit of searching reveals a Guardian post that suggests that jhunty probably is a policeman (see link below). Something that has been long suspected.

    Not absolutely definite proof it has to be said (depending on the interpretation of "our") but the post does suggest if it is not true there is at least a strong connection with Sussex Police. I'm playing Devil's advocate here.

    So assuming it is, is it appropriate that a policeman is posting such material about a protest group that is supposedly and should be policed neutrally? It doesn't take much imagination to guess who the policeman might be given the apparent obsession with the campaign.

    And is it right that a policeman should be posting about a member of Sussex Police Authority in such a blatantly political and anonymous way? Making allegations about threats to kill without any elaboration is also not acceptable.

    JHunty has made many unsubstantiated allegations about the group over the last few years (usually just going quiet once they are challenged) and given the way the police and more recently the Council respond to scare stories in the press and the current council spat I believe this could be a corker. I'm sure Ben Duncan as a member of the Sussex Police Authority would be very interested not forgetting the press.

    I think the Argus should definitely investigate this as they would have access to IP addresses etc. Given the way that SmashEDO have been criminalised and monitored over the years I think the results could be interesting and certainly would be in the public interest.

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    I think we can take JHunty's silence, if it continues, as an admission of guilt. Of course Policemen work odd shifts and long hours so we'll give him a bit more time to respond. Now what's the address of the IPCC...
    I've read this post and I genuinely can't see how it identifies JHunty as a Police Officer. Could you explain how you have come to suspecting this from his post?
    Well JHunty can speak up and deny it can't he.

    I have said I'm prepared to be corrected but it does seem he has a lot of information about the campaign and individuals in it as well as Sussex Police. As I point out various people have long suspected this and the fact that he is making allegations of threats to murder and using it to attack the politics of a member of the Police Authority makes it important that the issue is cleared up one way or the other.

    And if he feels insulted at being called a policeman I'll even apologise if he convinces us that he's not one.
    Yes but what I'm saying is that maybe you could show the quote he made on this forum and explain which parts identify him as being a police officer.
    If you're talking about contacting the IPCC (quite a serious measure) then the least you can do is explain how you've come to this conclusion."
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Row breaks out over Brighton Smash EDO protest at Jubilee

A bitter row has broken out over councillors’ condemnation of a Diamond Jubilee anti-arms protest.

Conservatives and Labour councillors on Brighton and Hove City Council voted for a motion that the council should call on Smash EDO to drop its June protest plans because of possible disruption to celebrations.

Senior Green councillor Ben Duncan publicly suggested in his blog that Conservative Coun Tony Janio was “corrupt” in proposing the vote because he did not declare at the time that he himself works for an arms company.

Coun Duncan later clarified in a later post that he was not “alleging corruption”.

Smash EDO wants to close down the EDO factory in Home Farm Road, Moulsecoomb, which it claims makes parts for weapons used in overseas military action.

It has called a demonstration in Brighton on Monday, June 4 – the third day of a four-day bank holiday weekend marking the Queen’s 60th year on the throne – as part of a “summer of resistance”.

At a meeting Coun Janio proposed that the council call on Smash EDO to “abandon their plans to disrupt the Diamond Jubilee celebrations in the city” and to work with police over other plans for protests.

The motion was carried with support from Conservative and Labour group members, with the Greens abstaining or voting against the motion.

Coun Janio, who represents the Hangleton and Knoll ward in Hove, has listed in the council’s register of members’ interests that he works as a “technical instructor” for Thales Training and Simulation – owned by French defence company Thales.

Coun Duncan, the council’s cabinet member for communities, equalities and public protection, wrote in his blog after the meeting: “This looks a bit like corruption to me – keeping silent about his links with the arms industry while trying to shut down the activities of a group campaigning against it – either way the question will keep council lawyers busy for the next few weeks.”

He warned disruption was more likely if the council did not work constructively with protest groups.

He is planning to seek legal advice from council officers before deciding whether to lodge a complaint to the council’s standards committee.

Smash EDO spokeswoman Chloe Marsh said the planned demo was not directed at the jubilee.

A spokeswoman said: “The arms trade does not stop just because of the Jubilee holiday.”

Coun Janio himself said he has no conflict of interest because his job is teaching people to fix flight simulators, not making arms.

He said: “We make flight simulators, we also make military flight simulators, but they don’t harm people.

“The worst thing a simulator can do to somebody is if it fell on them.

“We basically make a non-lethal product that teaches people to fly, whether they are military or civil.”

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