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Sussex beauty spot "cut out" of South Downs National Park

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Residents have reacted with horror after an area of outstanding natural beauty was “cut out” of the planned South Downs National Park.

People living around Green Ridge, a thin band of meadowland between the Westdene area of Brighton and the A27, have launched a campaign to urge officials to change the boundary.

All areas inside the national park, which is due to come into operation next year, will be protected against future development.

Those excluded will have no such protection.

Hailey Sellins, whose home backs onto the Green Ridge AONB, said: "Ever since the national park was first considered in 2001 that area has been in it. It has been in every draft until all of a sudden now it is dropped at the eleventh hour.

"We are all horrified. We've had no chance to protest or make a case because there has never been a need."

The residents led by Maureen Holt have now formed a group called Keep The Ridge Green and are lobbying the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs for the boundary to be re-altered.

Mrs Sellins said: "It is an absolutely beautiful area up there and it is used by a lot of people for walking. It is a meadow with a lot of butterflies and other wildlife. David Bellamy went to visit it when he was in Brighton last year. It would be awful if it was lost."

Their cause has been backed by Brighton Pavilion MP David Lepper and Brighton and Hove City Council, which is expected to pass a resolution tonight to write to Environment Secretary Hilary Benn.

Mr Lepper said: "Local people in the area have worked hard to conserve and protect this unique piece of the South Downs. We hope the secretary of state will think again before a final decision is made."

In a report on the issue that will be reviewed by Councillor Geoffrey Theobald, Brighton and Hove City Council's cabinet member for environment, council officers suggest the situation needs to be drawn to Mr Benn's attention urgently and raise the possibility Green Ridge was cut from the park by a clerical error.

They suggest the area may have been accidentally removed at the same time as Toads' Hole Valley, between Hangleton and the A27.

They add that Green Ridge met all the necessary criteria for being included in the national park.

Comments(32)

Ming says...
1:47pm Thu 7 May 09

They are planning to build the 11,500 new houses in this strip of land

Arriseme says...
2:28pm Thu 7 May 09

Ming is dead right, let’s build there. All AONB land next to the national park should have intensive housing, industrial or, better still, recreational development built on it, like, say, a football stadium. After all, that is the policy of the city council. This patch of land is only another field on the outskirts of Brighton, so why should it be treated any differently?

Charismatic Andrew says...
3:03pm Thu 7 May 09

I would put a waterpark there. Somthing like Blizzard Beach like they have in Florida. It would be great to have a Summit Plummit in Brighton. NIMBYs.

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...
3:41pm Thu 7 May 09

Arriseme wrote:
Ming is dead right, let’s build there. All AONB land next to the national park should have intensive housing, industrial or, better still, recreational development built on it, like, say, a football stadium. After all, that is the policy of the city council. This patch of land is only another field on the outskirts of Brighton, so why should it be treated any differently?
I'm guessing you're being sarcastic which is a shame as the gist of what you say is true! We can't afford to be precious about every bit of land, especially if it's south of the A27.

Voice of the silent Majority says...
3:52pm Thu 7 May 09

This area is earmarked for a carpark for Matchdays just in case the crowds ever climb above 6000

Ming says...
4:29pm Thu 7 May 09

tescos, without alcohol.










for about 5 days

ABC1 says...
5:39pm Thu 7 May 09

I am gobsmacked that a member of the local Labour party that supported the Falmer soccer stadium can be so hypocritical as to oppose the re-zoning of this piece of land.

Except of course, for the fact that politicians have no shame as long as there's a potential vote in it for them.

ABC1 says...
5:39pm Thu 7 May 09

I am gobsmacked that a member of the local Labour party that supported the Falmer soccer stadium can be so hypocritical as to oppose the re-zoning of this piece of land.

Except of course, for the fact that politicians have no shame as long as there's a potential vote in it for them.

chilledmum says...
7:16pm Thu 7 May 09

Before you all go off on one about politicians etc,let's get back to the land..this was deleted out of the SDNP without consultation. Has anyone actually seen this land? It is beautiful. It's not some 'field' on the outskirts of Brighton that Nimbys are trying to keep - it truly is worthy of NP status. The views alone are worth a trip up there. I walk my dog there and I don't live in the area. It needs to saved!

Arriseme says...
7:33pm Thu 7 May 09

JSIR says I am being sarcastic. Sarcastic about what, a precious football ground, I suppose? Every city MP, all local politicians of whatever stripe, including – astonishingly – the Greens, supported building a 22,000 seat football stadium in AONB next to the proposed national park, so what is sarcastic about saying the land at Green Ridge should be built over? And I’m sorry, chilledmum, it really is just another field on the outskirts of Brighton and its urgent development should be on every politician’s agenda now the requirement for building thousands of new homes in the city has been announced by the government.

On_the_Level says...
7:53pm Thu 7 May 09

Whoever had this land removed from the National Park plans probably has a vested interest in housebuilding and ultimately a nice little nest egg. However, once confronted will pull the clerical error card.

Jim BB says...
7:54pm Thu 7 May 09

I used to live near Green Belt and was reassured to know that my kids would have areas of countryside when they grew up.

Now, even Green Belt isn't sacred and that parcel of land is going to be built on.

If we don't make a stand, then what will be left for future generations except for bland housing estates and nowhere for nature, peace and quiet or just space? This is obviously a beautiful strip of land and, once gone, we'll never get it back.

On_the_Level says...
7:56pm Thu 7 May 09

Whoever had this land removed from the National Park plans probably has a vested interest in housebuilding and ultimately a nice little nest egg. However, once confronted will pull the clerical error card.

chilledmum says...
8:00pm Thu 7 May 09

I am sure that if it was big enough it may well have been considered for the new football stadium - but it isn't. If you are so incensed about the building of the stadium at Falmer then perhaps you should be supporting keeping green areas just that? The story here is that this piece of land was in the proposed NP for 8 years and then half of it was taken out without consultation and people want leave to object. This is not about Falmer or the govt initiative to build 1000s of homes.It's about an area of land that meets the NP criteria and it was taken out at the last minute, people that use the land and locals want to overturn this nonsensical decision - is that really such a bad thing?

chilledmum says...
8:12pm Thu 7 May 09

JimBB - I totally agree with you. Instead of sitting on the fence and doing nothing people are actually making a stand...

scaffolder says...
8:18pm Thu 7 May 09

arri just wait till the albion gets in the prem and has to double the amount of fans @ falmer 44k stadium twice the size

EasyBeaker says...
8:23pm Thu 7 May 09

If you can plonk an ugly great white elephant like the Falmer stadium in AONB land, then the bets are off for every green space in the city. Take that Stanmer Park, for instance, what’s it doing without proposals for major development on it? It’s sandwiched between the two universities, a council estate and the by-pass, it’s really just a big muddy field. We should see it as the Falmer football site only bigger, so there shouldn’t be any problem; should be big enough for at least 5,000 houses and a nuclear power station. I’ll get an email off to the Greens tonight….

EasyBeaker says...
8:23pm Thu 7 May 09

If you can plonk an ugly great white elephant like the Falmer stadium in AONB land, then the bets are off for every green space in the city. Take that Stanmer Park, for instance, what’s it doing without proposals for major development on it? It’s sandwiched between the two universities, a council estate and the by-pass, it’s really just a big muddy field. We should see it as the Falmer football site only bigger, so there shouldn’t be any problem; should be big enough for at least 5,000 houses and a nuclear power station. I’ll get an email off to the Greens tonight….

stan bailey says...
8:31pm Thu 7 May 09

ABC1 wrote:
I am gobsmacked that a member of the local Labour party that supported the Falmer soccer stadium can be so hypocritical as to oppose the re-zoning of this piece of land.

Except of course, for the fact that politicians have no shame as long as there's a potential vote in it for them.
I am amazed that the football stadium appears to be a company, but it can get funding right left and centre to fund it.

stan bailey says...
8:32pm Thu 7 May 09

ABC1 wrote:
I am gobsmacked that a member of the local Labour party that supported the Falmer soccer stadium can be so hypocritical as to oppose the re-zoning of this piece of land.

Except of course, for the fact that politicians have no shame as long as there's a potential vote in it for them.
I am amazed that the football stadium appears to be a company, but it can get funding right left and centre to fund it.

Dave in Hastings says...
9:58pm Thu 7 May 09

Oh dear this story has brought out lots of the bitter and twisted anti-Falmer stadium brigade with their misleading nonsense. I wish you sad bunch would get over it. There is no comparison between the land that the stadium is being built on and this lovely meadow much loved by the locals - hope they win their case to get it reinstated within the Park boundary.

chilledmum says...
10:18pm Thu 7 May 09

I keep coming back on here to read some messages about the land and all I've got is a load of Falmer tosh. Honestly - can't you open up your own chatroom so you can all moan about it together - maybe then someone will care?

ABC1 says...
8:06am Fri 8 May 09

The problem, chilledmum, is that Falmer soccer stadium stands for all that is bad in politics locally and nationally. So it is inevitable that it will get mentioned frequently. It too had all the right arguments on its side and won the only pblic enquiry called to consider it, with two senior Govt. inspectors finding against it.

I hope that the residents of Green Ridge get their way, but actually, why should they? There are plenty of schemes encroaching onto green belt land right now, so why should these people be exempt from their effects? There is no doubt that the South East needs more homes and that there is more demand for housing than supply. On this basis, it is less than community minded of the Green Ridge residents not to give up their land. I'll bet also that a number of them voted in favour of the Albion scheme at Falmer. And so they reap what they sow. The so-called referendum on Falmer, far from being a uniting agent, actually showed the divide in Brighton, with more than 65% of available voters not voting in favour of the scheme.

For me, the Falmer debate polarised the community and threw up some fantastic hypocrisy that is relevant to this debate. As an example, I don't expect much in the way of principle from the main parties, but the Greens sell themselves differently. However, they exposed themselves as having as little in the way of principle as anyone else. The Word Green in "Green" party should really have italics round it.

Falmer also highlighted the fact that the usual quasi-judicial processes are meaningless if the political circumstances are right. The Green ridge residents have suffered from this, but so have the residents of Falmer. It also demonstrated that communities are quite happy to **** on each other if they feel threatened. For example, there was no community in Brighton and Hove that wanted the stadium in their location, only in someone else's.

So the residents of Green Ridge will get support only for as long as there are potential votes in it for the politicians. And crucially, only for as long as it takes other residents to realise that development may be coming their way instead.

leebha says...
8:52am Fri 8 May 09

You all know that despite being AONB Falmer was just an ugly ploughed field - get over it!

leebha says...
8:52am Fri 8 May 09

You all know that despite being AONB Falmer was just an ugly ploughed field - get over it!

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...
9:18am Fri 8 May 09

A collection of rubbish, half-truths and lies I'm afraid there ABC1. What the go-ahead for Falmer represented was a victory for democracy and ordinary people over an unholy alliance of misguided environmentalists and reactionary rural Tories. And even if you want to hide behind arcane bits of misapplied planning legislation it still means the planning tail was not allowed to wag the democratic dog - so it was also a defeat for beauracracy.

Also part of the footprint of the stadium is replacing some old 1960s buildings - and the land was earmarked for development anyway.

PS - Stanmer's north of the bypass, so even if it is a 'muddy field' (made better since they've stopped cars driving onto it) it probably won't be built on in the foreseeable future.

ABC1 says...
10:06am Fri 8 May 09

Sorry Jimmy, I am baffled by your comments.

There were two public enquiries. One specifically dealt with the Falmer site and rejected the application out of hand. FACT. The other dealt with other potential sites and found there were none suitable. FACT. Therefore, under planning guidelines, the stadium should have been canned after the first enquiry, let alone the second.

The SoS in her permission letter stated that the stadium would be harmful to the nvironment for all the reasons given by the first inspector. FACT. The car parking provision that was allowed was also found to be well over what they should have allowed. FACT.

The system exists to protect the ordinary people who don't have a voice that reaches to Govt. level, and to protect ordinary people from being exploited. You talk about democracy, but given the time, trouble and money spent on the enquiries, what evidence that didn't appear at the enquiries swung the decision in the club's favour? Obviously conversations outside of the public domain which were subsequently published as a decision. All this show is that if you don't have a voice that reaches the right people, you won't get anywhere.

So good luck to the people of Green Ridge, you never know, you may even win. But to say that they are more deserving than the Falmer residents is clearly a crock, and to find in their favour after lobbying from the very people destroying AONB via the football club is just hypocrisy of the highest order.

chilledmum says...
12:43pm Fri 8 May 09

Ok, please go somewhere else and discuss Falmer - whilst there are some similarities (land on the outskirts of Brighton, is about all I can come up with), can I ask if that field was used by dog walkers?ramblers?wil
dlife enthusiasts?children
?families?mountain bikers? joggers? every day, come rain or shine? was there benches? a pond?an ancient saxon hedge surrounding it? Had it been lovingly maintained by a local wildlike group for years? A BIG FAT NO, it was a field. Please do not insult me by saying it is the same - it clearly isn't. SAVE GREEN RIDGE

pw08 says...
1:47pm Fri 8 May 09

I'm sorry, but Falmer is totally relevant here, and ABC1 is correct. As soon as New Labour got the planning inspector's report overturned, every piece of green land around Brighton was up for grabs. As will Green Ridge be, if the "clerical error" is not overturned. I'm afraid the inevitable price of the Falmer fix will be the destruction of every piece of green land on the Brighton border that is not in the national park.

And it's about time the Falmer supporters had the guts to realise the consequences of what they have done.

EasyBeaker says...
3:42pm Fri 8 May 09

I’m afraid Mrs. Chilledmum, the Falmer saga has lots to do with your predicament. If there’s a lesson here for you Green Ridge people, it’s to get one, or better still several, of your people sleeping with the key decision makers. Then you must invite the Secretary of State down for a day out while he or she is supposed to be independently assessing your case – just remember only to give them a meat pie and a warm cup of tea, mind. Lastly, don’t involve the Greens, as they are particularly fond of allowing stadiums on AONB sites like yours. That’s how it’s done, I understand.

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...
4:49pm Fri 8 May 09

Sorry ABC1, I don't want to quote your post otherwise the page will take about five minutes to load! But you're still trying to find the devil in the detail to justify your opposition. But we're not going to agree are we? :-)

I agree with Easybeaker inasmuch as I think the stadium IS related to this. I was always vaguely opposed to development in greenfield sites (which Falmer ISN'T) but the pig-ignorant oppositon to the stadium (and the sewage treatment works) and the unbelivably convoluted planning process made me change my mind. Now I think the planning laws should be relaxed to presume in favour of development - and not just in fields but in the heart of the city as well. You can't make an omlettee without breaking eggs.

And anyway aren't we getting ahead of ourselves? All that's happened is this field isn't going to be in the NP. No one's yet suggested it will be a suitable site of a nuclear waste dump. Let's wait and see eh?

stan bailey says...
9:35pm Fri 8 May 09

EasyBeaker wrote:
I’m afraid Mrs. Chilledmum, the Falmer saga has lots to do with your predicament. If there’s a lesson here for you Green Ridge people, it’s to get one, or better still several, of your people sleeping with the key decision makers. Then you must invite the Secretary of State down for a day out while he or she is supposed to be independently assessing your case – just remember only to give them a meat pie and a warm cup of tea, mind. Lastly, don’t involve the Greens, as they are particularly fond of allowing stadiums on AONB sites like yours. That’s how it’s done, I understand.
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