Medics at Brighton Mayday protest wore armour (From The Argus)
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Medics at Brighton Mayday protest wore armour
2:11pm Thursday 7th May 2009 in
Clad in a visored helmet, elbow pads, flak jacket and protective shield he was barely distinguishable from the riot police around him.
But as this picture of a modern paramedic illustrates, the dangers faced by those on the front line has never been so high - even if you are a there merely to help others.
This unnamed man was photographed doing his duty during the Smash EDO May Day protest in Brighton on Bank Holiday Monday. He may have been wearing a white rather than black helmet, a green rather than black uniform and his shield emblazoned with the word ambulance but it was not enough to distinguish him from law enforcement officers as he came under fire from anti-capitalists.
Witnesses said that when the paramedic went to help a policewoman who had injured her knee, the crowd hurled missiles at them both.
A spokeswoman for the South East Coast Ambulance Service backed the deployment of the paramedic, adding: “We have a number of specially-trained paramedics who work in partnership with the police to provide frontline medical cover for both the public and police in public order situations.
“The paramedics provide medical assistance if required and do not undertake any kind of police role. They are issued with protective, non-offensive equipment and have all received Home Office-approved police public order training.
“The deployment of these paramedics, who have operated for more than ten years in the Sussex area, ensures the swiftest possible response should medical assistance be required.”
Hundreds of protesters were in the city for the demonstration organised by campaign group Smash EDO.
It was aimed at Brighton defence manufacturers EDO MBM/ ITT, which has a factory in Moulsecoomb.
But the site was not targeted. Instead there were skirmishes between police and campaigners at various locations throughout the city.
Protest organisers denied that any paramedics had been targeted during the protests.
Smash EDO spokesman Andrew Beckett said: “I have not seen any evidence about a paramedic coming under attack.
“I am also concerned at the idea of using armoured medics carrying riot shields. The paramedics should be more clearly distinguishable.”
Comments(123)
Keith Burton
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3:12pm Thu 7 May 09
Er, well perhaps if you lot didn't kick up such a stink they wouldn't need it?
Osama bin there
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4:06pm Thu 7 May 09
I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile?
Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!
jay316
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4:08pm Thu 7 May 09
Osama bin there wrote:I think medics should wear armour all the time.. I do when I work Venue Doors, too many fuckwit out there..
They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around.
I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile?
Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!
I have noticed in these forums, as soon as you say something which disproves what a protestor has said, it all goes quiet
Thermo
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4:26pm Thu 7 May 09
jay316
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4:26pm Thu 7 May 09
Osama bin there wrote:I think medics should wear armour all the time.. I do when I work Venue Doors, too many fuckwit out there..
They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around.
I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile?
Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!
I have noticed in these forums, as soon as you say something which disproves what a protestor has said, it all goes quiet
Arienne Brussels
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4:27pm Thu 7 May 09
To my knowledge it's just a made up story (to create and manipulate news) if sources are anonymous and cannot be confirmed. Also being an eyewitness myself I can say I haven't seen any medics being attacked.
cheezburger
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4:38pm Thu 7 May 09
Arienne Brussels wrote:The majority of the 'protestors' were anonymous and cannot be confirmed either since they wore masks to hide their identity. So they should be ignored too.
I am afraid the news source is a bit dodgy for this article. It's from an anonymous source from a police blog and it's not being confirmed by the head of police. And apparently similar articles have been published in the Sun and Daily Mail before this article, so there's no real news value anymore to this, if you ask me. To my knowledge it's just a made up story (to create and manipulate news) if sources are anonymous and cannot be confirmed. Also being an eyewitness myself I can say I haven't seen any medics being attacked.
bibble
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4:47pm Thu 7 May 09
Osama bin there wrote:Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!
Bog Vern
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6:25pm Thu 7 May 09
Hurray! My days have been so boring since he went away.
Must have had detention or doing his lines or something similar.
Bibble - you are a legend. Is there no beginning to your talents?
BN1
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7:08pm Thu 7 May 09
bibble wrote:Perhaps if the City wasn't full of "protesting" f*uckwits running riot then Ian Tomlinson would still be alive today.
Osama bin there wrote:Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!
Jim BB
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7:49pm Thu 7 May 09
And I think it's sad that the paramedics felt the need to protect themselves. A need fully justified.
Oh, apparently the word Ambulance wasn't a clue.
How about the protesters not throw missiles at anyone, that should prevent future trouble...
bibble
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7:52pm Thu 7 May 09
BN1 wrote:Ian Tomlinson wasn't attacked by the protestors, he was attacked by the police. Nothing new there.
bibble wrote:Perhaps if the City wasn't full of "protesting" f*uckwits running riot then Ian Tomlinson would still be alive today.Osama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
BN1
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7:56pm Thu 7 May 09
bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you.
BN1 wrote:Ian Tomlinson wasn't attacked by the protestors, he was attacked by the police. Nothing new there.
bibble wrote:Perhaps if the City wasn't full of "protesting" f*uckwits running riot then Ian Tomlinson would still be alive today.Osama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
bibble
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7:58pm Thu 7 May 09
BN1 wrote:What a dunce. A police thug assaulted Mr Tomlinson. He was not a part of the demonstration.
bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you.BN1 wrote:Ian Tomlinson wasn't attacked by the protestors, he was attacked by the police. Nothing new there.bibble wrote:Perhaps if the City wasn't full of "protesting" f*uckwits running riot then Ian Tomlinson would still be alive today.Osama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
The same thing could have happened to ANYONE watching the demonstration.
There is a right to protest. If you don't recognise that, too bad.
Bog Vern
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8:09pm Thu 7 May 09
I THINK YOUR DYNAMITE!!
BN1
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8:11pm Thu 7 May 09
bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you.
BN1 wrote:What a dunce. A police thug assaulted Mr Tomlinson. He was not a part of the demonstration.
bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you.BN1 wrote:Ian Tomlinson wasn't attacked by the protestors, he was attacked by the police. Nothing new there.bibble wrote:Perhaps if the City wasn't full of "protesting" f*uckwits running riot then Ian Tomlinson would still be alive today.Osama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
The same thing could have happened to ANYONE watching the demonstration.
There is a right to protest. If you don't recognise that, too bad.
bibble
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8:27pm Thu 7 May 09
BN1 wrote:No police, no dead Ian Tomlinson. I had to spell it out for you.
bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you.BN1 wrote:What a dunce. A police thug assaulted Mr Tomlinson. He was not a part of the demonstration. The same thing could have happened to ANYONE watching the demonstration. There is a right to protest. If you don't recognise that, too bad.bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you.BN1 wrote:Ian Tomlinson wasn't attacked by the protestors, he was attacked by the police. Nothing new there.bibble wrote:Perhaps if the City wasn't full of "protesting" f*uckwits running riot then Ian Tomlinson would still be alive today.Osama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
yoyoman
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8:32pm Thu 7 May 09
well what a lovely headline grabbing story ..it went on to say a women police officer was injured and the protesters chucked stuff at them both.
the argus is using women and our brilliant ambulance servicemen to score a cheap points..
the police need good headlines after deaths and assaults ..this is very low journalism..
the photograph will probably be in tomorrow's daily mail..
ive seen bad on both sides but what concerns me is THAT BACK IN THE 70SS YOU COULD HAVE A JOKE WITH AN POLICE OFFICER AT A DEMO OR A PICKET LINE...SINCE THATCHER GOT INTO POWER IT BECAME A THEM AND US SITUATION..£20 NOTES WAVED AT STRIKING MINERS, EVERY FOOTBALL FANS WAS AN HOOLIGAN ATTITUDE INBREADED INTO THE POLICE AND THIS ATTITUDE COST 96 LIVES AT HILLSBORO WHEN THEY THE PUSHING THE CROWD BACK INTI THE OVERCROWDED PENS...can we have our old police force back?...
MoreMikey
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8:34pm Thu 7 May 09
Osama bin there wrote:Oh why, Osama, did you have to mention him? Now look what you've done! :)
They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around.
I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile?
Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!
yoyoman
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8:36pm Thu 7 May 09
i want to love the police....but generation after generation are getting battered by them...the futures looking BAD
bibble
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8:37pm Thu 7 May 09
Stopping and searching people without any suspicion, but purely to exercise power, does not make the police look good at all, and it is prone to abuse.
Less that 1% of the hundreds of thousands of section 44 stops have resulted in any sort of arrest. But it has resulted in considerable ill-feeling towards the police.
I myself was stopped and searched in London a while back, and I did not thank the policeman who did it. He did not think I was a terrorist, he was wasting my time and his. No doubt he thought he was doing a good job. He wasn't.
BN1
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8:39pm Thu 7 May 09
bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you.
BN1 wrote:No police, no dead Ian Tomlinson. I had to spell it out for you.
bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you.BN1 wrote:What a dunce. A police thug assaulted Mr Tomlinson. He was not a part of the demonstration. The same thing could have happened to ANYONE watching the demonstration. There is a right to protest. If you don't recognise that, too bad.bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you.BN1 wrote:Ian Tomlinson wasn't attacked by the protestors, he was attacked by the police. Nothing new there.bibble wrote:Perhaps if the City wasn't full of "protesting" f*uckwits running riot then Ian Tomlinson would still be alive today.Osama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
Sorry to cut and paste again, bubble, but you're not worth much more effort.
yoyoman
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8:41pm Thu 7 May 09
MoreMikey wrote:the police dont have missles .....they just have dogs,batons and tear-gas...
Osama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Oh why, Osama, did you have to mention him? Now look what you've done! :)
osama bin there=idiot
bibble
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8:42pm Thu 7 May 09
BN1 wrote:No police, no dead Ian Tomlinson. Please open your eyes and stop parroting the police line that anyone anywhere who ever gets hurt deserved it.
bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you. Sorry to cut and paste again, bubble, but you're not worth much more effort.BN1 wrote:No police, no dead Ian Tomlinson. I had to spell it out for you.bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you.BN1 wrote:What a dunce. A police thug assaulted Mr Tomlinson. He was not a part of the demonstration. The same thing could have happened to ANYONE watching the demonstration. There is a right to protest. If you don't recognise that, too bad.bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you.BN1 wrote:Ian Tomlinson wasn't attacked by the protestors, he was attacked by the police. Nothing new there.bibble wrote:Perhaps if the City wasn't full of "protesting" f*uckwits running riot then Ian Tomlinson would still be alive today.Osama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
Hopefully the thug who assaulted Ian Tomlinson will be facing a murder charge, but he will probably get off with manslaughter.
bibble
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8:43pm Thu 7 May 09
yoyoman wrote:You missed off tazers. Plus the 99.99999% unquestioning support of the state. That it not to be underestimated.
MoreMikey wrote:the police dont have missles .....they just have dogs,batons and tear-gas... osama bin there=idiotOsama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Oh why, Osama, did you have to mention him? Now look what you've done! :)
g1mp
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8:44pm Thu 7 May 09
yoyoman
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8:49pm Thu 7 May 09
g1mp wrote:she was having a fit after being hit with a baton
On Monday that paramedic (and the police medic) had missles thrown at them when they went to the aid of a female that had collapsed on Grand Junction Road, near the pier roundabout. I have seen photos of people commenting that she was drunk and assaulted by police. She was in fact, having a fit and the so called peaceful demonstrators should be ashamed with their actions. They were assisting someone in medical need.
BN1
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8:49pm Thu 7 May 09
yoyoman
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8:51pm Thu 7 May 09
BN1 wrote:please do not talk about the police like that...
You're right, the future is looking bad. I mean you've seen the violent, resource wasting scum in the streets, right? They were out on Monday.
bibble
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8:51pm Thu 7 May 09
g1mp wrote:Is that true, that the paramedic and police medic-thug were pelted with missiles? Where did you get that information?
On Monday that paramedic (and the police medic) had missles thrown at them when they went to the aid of a female that had collapsed on Grand Junction Road, near the pier roundabout. I have seen photos of people commenting that she was drunk and assaulted by police. She was in fact, having a fit and the so called peaceful demonstrators should be ashamed with their actions. They were assisting someone in medical need.
Remember the police version of events when Ian Tomlinson was killed. It sounds very suspiciously the same. Perhaps the police have an official guide for misreporting incidents.
yoyoman
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8:56pm Thu 7 May 09
bibble wrote:read my comment at 832pm...
g1mp wrote: On Monday that paramedic (and the police medic) had missles thrown at them when they went to the aid of a female that had collapsed on Grand Junction Road, near the pier roundabout. I have seen photos of people commenting that she was drunk and assaulted by police. She was in fact, having a fit and the so called peaceful demonstrators should be ashamed with their actions. They were assisting someone in medical need.Is that true, that the paramedic and police medic-thug were pelted with missiles? Where did you get that information? Remember the police version of events when Ian Tomlinson was killed. It sounds very suspiciously the same. Perhaps the police have an official guide for misreporting incidents.
thatcher is to blame for all of this
BN1
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8:56pm Thu 7 May 09
bibble wrote:I didn't say that anyone anywhere deserves it - did i Bubble? Mr Tomlinson far from deserved to get it. He deserved to walk home in peace and not have to walk through a riot. You see if there wern't any protesters there there wouldn't have been any police there - and Mr Tomlinson would still be alive today. The police were there because the the protesters were running a riot. Had to spell it out for you again.
BN1 wrote:No police, no dead Ian Tomlinson. Please open your eyes and stop parroting the police line that anyone anywhere who ever gets hurt deserved it.
bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you. Sorry to cut and paste again, bubble, but you're not worth much more effort.BN1 wrote:No police, no dead Ian Tomlinson. I had to spell it out for you.bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you.BN1 wrote:What a dunce. A police thug assaulted Mr Tomlinson. He was not a part of the demonstration. The same thing could have happened to ANYONE watching the demonstration. There is a right to protest. If you don't recognise that, too bad.bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you.BN1 wrote:Ian Tomlinson wasn't attacked by the protestors, he was attacked by the police. Nothing new there.bibble wrote:Perhaps if the City wasn't full of "protesting" f*uckwits running riot then Ian Tomlinson would still be alive today.Osama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
Hopefully the thug who assaulted Ian Tomlinson will be facing a murder charge, but he will probably get off with manslaughter.
Haha - my security word is: hole-stop. Big shout out to Bubble.
BN1
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8:59pm Thu 7 May 09
yoyoman wrote:Well done, Tarquin. I see what you did there.
BN1 wrote:please do not talk about the police like that...
You're right, the future is looking bad. I mean you've seen the violent, resource wasting scum in the streets, right? They were out on Monday.
yoyoman
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9:01pm Thu 7 May 09
THAT EVIL COW IS THE REASON WE HAVE TO PUT UP WITH OUR SS TYPE POLICE FORCE
HOPE SHE DIES VERY SOON
bibble
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9:03pm Thu 7 May 09
BN1 wrote:You just don't see the truth. The demonstrators have a right to protest. Some, a very small number, maybe went a trifle too far - but in the big scheme of things one could argue not hardly far enough.
bibble wrote:I didn't say that anyone anywhere deserves it - did i Bubble? Mr Tomlinson far from deserved to get it. He deserved to walk home in peace and not have to walk through a riot. You see if there wern't any protesters there there wouldn't have been any police there - and Mr Tomlinson would still be alive today. The police were there because the the protesters were running a riot. Had to spell it out for you again. Haha - my security word is: hole-stop. Big shout out to Bubble.BN1 wrote:No police, no dead Ian Tomlinson. Please open your eyes and stop parroting the police line that anyone anywhere who ever gets hurt deserved it. Hopefully the thug who assaulted Ian Tomlinson will be facing a murder charge, but he will probably get off with manslaughter.bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you. Sorry to cut and paste again, bubble, but you're not worth much more effort.BN1 wrote:No police, no dead Ian Tomlinson. I had to spell it out for you.bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you.BN1 wrote:What a dunce. A police thug assaulted Mr Tomlinson. He was not a part of the demonstration. The same thing could have happened to ANYONE watching the demonstration. There is a right to protest. If you don't recognise that, too bad.bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you.BN1 wrote:Ian Tomlinson wasn't attacked by the protestors, he was attacked by the police. Nothing new there.bibble wrote:Perhaps if the City wasn't full of "protesting" f*uckwits running riot then Ian Tomlinson would still be alive today.Osama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
The police, on the other hand, are strongly implicated in the death of Ian Tomlinson. Did a protestor FORCE the policeman to violently shove Mr Tomlinson? No.
So, on all points, you lose.
yoyoman
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9:07pm Thu 7 May 09
bibble wrote:THATCHER INVENTED ROBO-COP
BN1 wrote:You just don't see the truth. The demonstrators have a right to protest. Some, a very small number, maybe went a trifle too far - but in the big scheme of things one could argue not hardly far enough. The police, on the other hand, are strongly implicated in the death of Ian Tomlinson. Did a protestor FORCE the policeman to violently shove Mr Tomlinson? No. So, on all points, you lose.bibble wrote:I didn't say that anyone anywhere deserves it - did i Bubble? Mr Tomlinson far from deserved to get it. He deserved to walk home in peace and not have to walk through a riot. You see if there wern't any protesters there there wouldn't have been any police there - and Mr Tomlinson would still be alive today. The police were there because the the protesters were running a riot. Had to spell it out for you again. Haha - my security word is: hole-stop. Big shout out to Bubble.BN1 wrote:No police, no dead Ian Tomlinson. Please open your eyes and stop parroting the police line that anyone anywhere who ever gets hurt deserved it. Hopefully the thug who assaulted Ian Tomlinson will be facing a murder charge, but he will probably get off with manslaughter.bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you. Sorry to cut and paste again, bubble, but you're not worth much more effort.BN1 wrote:No police, no dead Ian Tomlinson. I had to spell it out for you.bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you.BN1 wrote:What a dunce. A police thug assaulted Mr Tomlinson. He was not a part of the demonstration. The same thing could have happened to ANYONE watching the demonstration. There is a right to protest. If you don't recognise that, too bad.bibble wrote:No protesters. No Police. I had to spell it out for you.BN1 wrote:Ian Tomlinson wasn't attacked by the protestors, he was attacked by the police. Nothing new there.bibble wrote:Perhaps if the City wasn't full of "protesting" f*uckwits running riot then Ian Tomlinson would still be alive today.Osama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
SHE DIVIDED THE PEOPLE
SHE DIVIDED THE COMMUNITIES AGAINST OUR POLICE
EVIL COW
BN1
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9:07pm Thu 7 May 09
But they the reason the police were there. Can you not see that? Would you like it spelled out again?
Metro Reader on 7.47
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9:09pm Thu 7 May 09
Just like to Argus!
Metro Reader on 7.47
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9:12pm Thu 7 May 09
Just like to Argus!
bibble
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9:12pm Thu 7 May 09
BN1 wrote:You are being very obtuse.
"Did a protestor FORCE the policeman to violently shove Mr Tomlinson? No." But they the reason the police were there. Can you not see that? Would you like it spelled out again?
The policeman was responsible for his actions. Nobody forced him to do what he did. It is nobody else's fault.
Bog Vern
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9:16pm Thu 7 May 09
Please can I have your autograph?
BN1
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9:21pm Thu 7 May 09
http://eeuauaughhhua
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BN1
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9:22pm Thu 7 May 09
http://eeuauaughhhua
uaahh.ytmnd.com/
bibble
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9:26pm Thu 7 May 09
Metro Reader on 7.47 wrote:It was noticeable how all the "quality" newspapers immediately parroted the official police version of events after the death of Ian Tomlinson. It was only after the video clip was put on The Guardian web site that they woke up and smelled the bacon.
"Perhaps the police have an official guide for misreporting incidents" Just like to Argus!
The quality of journalism has gone down hill over the last few years. I don't know where the fault lies. Possibly with the ubiquitous Internet. Far fewer people now do stringent research, i.e. they are lazy, and instead rely on things like Wikipedia. It was laughable that when an ex-BBC staffer died, the BBC web site quoted incorrect information about his time at the BBC. The wrong information came straight from... Wikipedia. One would think they would be able to run along to his old department and ask somebody for an obituary (the Daily Telegraph obituary was accurate, but they have an enviable reputation for obituaries).
Likewise the copy and paste "intelligence" work done by the SIS in the lead up to Gulf war - complete with the grammatical error that was in the original!
Bog Vern
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9:28pm Thu 7 May 09
Oooooo - he'd be dead sexy
bibble
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9:29pm Thu 7 May 09
BN1 wrote:If you were driving a vehicle, that is if you can drive and have a licence and insurance, you would blame the car in front if you ran into the back of it.
Lets not forget that bibble is in the driving seat here. http://eeuauaughhhua uaahh.ytmnd.com/
BN1
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9:35pm Thu 7 May 09
What's that supposed to mean, bubble?
Osama bin there
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9:36pm Thu 7 May 09
bibble wrote:Doubt it.
Osama bin there wrote:Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!
Bog Vern
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9:37pm Thu 7 May 09
Are you really Boris Johnson? I think you have great hair.
bibble
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9:42pm Thu 7 May 09
BN1 wrote:It means that vision is useful sense for driving, but you have a tendency to close your eyes.
"that is if you can drive and have a licence and insurance" What's that supposed to mean, bubble?
bibble
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9:44pm Thu 7 May 09
Osama bin there wrote:Good point, Osama. It was a very forceful push. Even the Terminator might have had problems after that.
bibble wrote:Doubt it.Osama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
Bog Vern
says...
9:46pm Thu 7 May 09
bibble wrote:Bibble
Osama bin there wrote:Good point, Osama. It was a very forceful push. Even the Terminator might have had problems after that.
bibble wrote:Doubt it.Osama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
Do you believe in 'All-bran' style breakfast or should it be a jolly good fry up?
BN1
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9:48pm Thu 7 May 09
bibble wrote:Oh dear. No wonder everyone dislikes you.
BN1 wrote:It means that vision is useful sense for driving, but you have a tendency to close your eyes.
"that is if you can drive and have a licence and insurance" What's that supposed to mean, bubble?
Don't you have a local rag you can bibble on?
bibble
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9:50pm Thu 7 May 09
Bog Vern wrote:I usually prefer a fry up.
bibble wrote:Bibble Do you believe in 'All-bran' style breakfast or should it be a jolly good fry up?Osama bin there wrote:Good point, Osama. It was a very forceful push. Even the Terminator might have had problems after that.bibble wrote:Doubt it.Osama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
Bog Vern
says...
9:51pm Thu 7 May 09
'We love you Bibble, we do, We love you Bibble we do, We love you Bibble we do OoooooooooooooooooHH Bible we love you'
bibble
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9:52pm Thu 7 May 09
BN1 wrote:I don't think "everyone" dislikes me. If it's just people like you it's unimportant.
bibble wrote:Oh dear. No wonder everyone dislikes you. Don't you have a local rag you can bibble on?BN1 wrote: "that is if you can drive and have a licence and insurance" What's that supposed to mean, bubble?It means that vision is useful sense for driving, but you have a tendency to close your eyes.
I visit Brighton very regularly, and may well move here.
Bog Vern
says...
9:53pm Thu 7 May 09
bibble wrote:Bibble,
Bog Vern wrote:I usually prefer a fry up.
bibble wrote:Bibble Do you believe in 'All-bran' style breakfast or should it be a jolly good fry up?Osama bin there wrote:Good point, Osama. It was a very forceful push. Even the Terminator might have had problems after that.bibble wrote:Doubt it.Osama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
Does that include black pudding or do you think that spoils the overall flavour of the dish?
BN1
says...
9:54pm Thu 7 May 09
bibble
says...
10:10pm Thu 7 May 09
BN1 wrote:I think you're given to exaggeration as well as having blinkers.
No, it is everyone.
MoreMikey
says...
10:13pm Thu 7 May 09
BN1 wrote:That was pretty good.
Lets not forget that bibble is in the driving seat here.
http://eeuauaughhhua
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Bog Vern
says...
10:16pm Thu 7 May 09
bibble wrote:Blinkers for the first time, 240 at Kempton - does he stand a chance?
BN1 wrote:I think you're given to exaggeration as well as having blinkers.
No, it is everyone.
bibble
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10:20pm Thu 7 May 09
Bog Vern wrote:He would probably stumble at the first fence, then blame the fence for being on the course.
bibble wrote:Blinkers for the first time, 240 at Kempton - does he stand a chance?BN1 wrote: No, it is everyone.I think you're given to exaggeration as well as having blinkers.
BN1
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10:28pm Thu 7 May 09
getreal1
says...
11:33pm Thu 7 May 09
bibble wrote:He was too stupid to live - ****-arsing around in front of the police when the tensions were at high. Just on his way home? I think not.
Osama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
weaverfish
says...
11:47pm Thu 7 May 09
weaverfish
says...
11:48pm Thu 7 May 09
weaverfish
says...
11:48pm Thu 7 May 09
BN1
says...
12:15am Fri 8 May 09
Oh man-security word: away-deal - it's all on your tip, bibble.
socrates
says...
12:28am Fri 8 May 09
Lets not forget that this protest was massively over policed and, of course over reported.
Lets not forget that the joint task force of police comprised officers from the met and kent forces.
Lets not forget that the met and the kent forces have been caught breaking the law and police code many times when faced with legal protests and the press these attract.
Lets not forget that an innocent bystander was killed by the met recently for no reason other than being near an angry thug (sorry met officer).
I didnt forget any of this and even so I was shocked by what I found when I went into town on this day and found hundreds of police playing soldier (what else do you call columns of police shouting war cries and marching around the city?).
I, along with many other ordinary residents watched the police (supposedly there to protect us) being run ragged by a gang of drunken youths who had them on the hop the whole day.
Severe threat of terrorism indeed - twits armed with cans of special brew (most wearing city clean uniforms btw) outwitted them.
At the pier I watched a met officer assault a young man. His reason for this assault was being called out by a group of people for being one of the officers involved with the tomlinson affair. I stopped him from dragging this youth off by his neck and this brought a few people over to us. The officer decided to assault more people - especially those with cameras.
His shoulder number was CO 2885.
I reported this on the day to the Sussex police commander and was assured that this officer would be dealt with. I actually trust the words of the local cop but doubt how he can bring an officer from another force to account.
The police did eventually see sense and went home thus ending the days carnival of nonsense.
This is why we need citizen oversight of our police force in this city - so that we can ensure those that take responsibility for our safety actually live up to this role.
As the argus has reported this is something the local police do not want and of course their national bodies support this.
If this bothers anyone maybe take time out to check whats going on under your noses and maybe vote once in a while...
socrates
says...
12:29am Fri 8 May 09
Lets not forget that this protest was massively over policed and, of course over reported.
Lets not forget that the joint task force of police comprised officers from the met and kent forces.
Lets not forget that the met and the kent forces have been caught breaking the law and police code many times when faced with legal protests and the press these attract.
Lets not forget that an innocent bystander was killed by the met recently for no reason other than being near an angry thug (sorry met officer).
I didnt forget any of this and even so I was shocked by what I found when I went into town on this day and found hundreds of police playing soldier (what else do you call columns of police shouting war cries and marching around the city?).
I, along with many other ordinary residents watched the police (supposedly there to protect us) being run ragged by a gang of drunken youths who had them on the hop the whole day.
Severe threat of terrorism indeed - twits armed with cans of special brew (most wearing city clean uniforms btw) outwitted them.
At the pier I watched a met officer assault a young man. His reason for this assault was being called out by a group of people for being one of the officers involved with the tomlinson affair. I stopped him from dragging this youth off by his neck and this brought a few people over to us. The officer decided to assault more people - especially those with cameras.
His shoulder number was CO 2885.
I reported this on the day to the Sussex police commander and was assured that this officer would be dealt with. I actually trust the words of the local cop but doubt how he can bring an officer from another force to account.
The police did eventually see sense and went home thus ending the days carnival of nonsense.
This is why we need citizen oversight of our police force in this city - so that we can ensure those that take responsibility for our safety actually live up to this role.
As the argus has reported this is something the local police do not want and of course their national bodies support this.
If this bothers anyone maybe take time out to check whats going on under your noses and maybe vote once in a while...
socrates
says...
12:30am Fri 8 May 09
Lets not forget that this protest was massively over policed and, of course over reported.
I do not believe the content of this story as reported.
Lets not forget that the joint task force of police comprised officers from the met and kent forces.
Lets not forget that the met and the kent forces have been caught breaking the law and police code many times when faced with legal protests and the press these attract.
Lets not forget that an innocent bystander was killed by the met recently for no reason other than being near an angry thug (sorry met officer).
I didnt forget any of this and even so I was shocked by what I found when I went into town on this day and found hundreds of police playing soldier (what else do you call columns of police shouting war cries and marching around the city?).
I, along with many other ordinary residents watched the police (supposedly there to protect us) being run ragged by a gang of drunken youths who had them on the hop the whole day.
Severe threat of terrorism indeed - twits armed with cans of special brew (most wearing city clean uniforms btw) outwitted them.
At the pier I watched a met officer assault a young man. His reason for this assault was being called out by a group of people for being one of the officers involved with the tomlinson affair. I stopped him from dragging this youth off by his neck and this brought a few people over to us. The officer decided to assault more people - especially those with cameras.
His shoulder number was CO 2885.
I reported this on the day to the Sussex police commander and was assured that this officer would be dealt with. I actually trust the words of the local cop but doubt how he can bring an officer from another force to account.
The police did eventually see sense and went home thus ending the days carnival of nonsense.
This is why we need citizen oversight of our police force in this city - so that we can ensure those that take responsibility for our safety actually live up to this role.
As the argus has reported this is something the local police do not want and of course their national bodies support this.
If this bothers anyone maybe take time out to check whats going on under your noses and maybe vote once in a while...
yoyoman
says...
1:07am Fri 8 May 09
socrates wrote:some great points there mate..
Lets not forget that this is the same ambulance 'service' that let a disabled civil servant die in his own home as he was 'not worth saving'. Lets not forget that this protest was massively over policed and, of course over reported. I do not believe the content of this story as reported. Lets not forget that the joint task force of police comprised officers from the met and kent forces. Lets not forget that the met and the kent forces have been caught breaking the law and police code many times when faced with legal protests and the press these attract. Lets not forget that an innocent bystander was killed by the met recently for no reason other than being near an angry thug (sorry met officer). I didnt forget any of this and even so I was shocked by what I found when I went into town on this day and found hundreds of police playing soldier (what else do you call columns of police shouting war cries and marching around the city?). I, along with many other ordinary residents watched the police (supposedly there to protect us) being run ragged by a gang of drunken youths who had them on the hop the whole day. Severe threat of terrorism indeed - twits armed with cans of special brew (most wearing city clean uniforms btw) outwitted them. At the pier I watched a met officer assault a young man. His reason for this assault was being called out by a group of people for being one of the officers involved with the tomlinson affair. I stopped him from dragging this youth off by his neck and this brought a few people over to us. The officer decided to assault more people - especially those with cameras. His shoulder number was CO 2885. I reported this on the day to the Sussex police commander and was assured that this officer would be dealt with. I actually trust the words of the local cop but doubt how he can bring an officer from another force to account. The police did eventually see sense and went home thus ending the days carnival of nonsense. This is why we need citizen oversight of our police force in this city - so that we can ensure those that take responsibility for our safety actually live up to this role. As the argus has reported this is something the local police do not want and of course their national bodies support this. If this bothers anyone maybe take time out to check whats going on under your noses and maybe vote once in a while...
scroll up and you will see some numpty's that read the daily mail...
it is a great shame that our police force have gone from laughing and joking on the picket lines and at demo's ...to hating us and treating us like the enemy...
a quote from a senior officer before the g20... ''we are up for it''
Ian Tomlinson's family now have to suffer because one officer was ''up for it''
...the government will not review police tactics until another pc Blakelock incident happens...
the **** police that harassed coloured people in tottenham were knowhere to be seen when pc Blakelock sadly lost his life,,,it was pc Blakelocks first ever time on broadwater farm and the poor guy got knifed because of the actions of other officer's...this will happen again...
THATCHER INVENTED ROBO-COP and 30 years on i cannot see it changing..
..GO TO YOUTUBE AND TYPE IN ''EDO pepperspray brighton'' ...
the suSSex police will be wearing brown shirts soon!!
kkj
says...
1:07am Fri 8 May 09
But just in case he's still tuned-in -
Ian Tomlinson - agreed, officer was wrong (see Nicola Fisher thread), but by any reasonable definition of murder, its not. Manslaughter yes, and I hope the officer is tried and found guilty.
Regarding BN1's comments at 7:56pm. No protesters no police.
You respond that everyone has the right to protest. Yes (within the constraints previously specified), they do, but had the G20 protest not been occurring, the City of London would not have been policed as it were. Mr Tomlinson would have been free to walk home, would have found no-one to play silly b*ggers with and would not have been pushed over, so the chances are, without the protest he would still be alive. That's all BN1's saying - how can you disagree with that? You youself say 'No police, no dead Ian Tomlinson' but you fail to acknowledge that the ONLY reason the police were there to assault Mr Tomlinson was because the protest was taking place. Now, who mentioned blinkers?
yoyoman
says...
1:21am Fri 8 May 09
kkj wrote:kkj bn1 and bibble
I'm severely p*ssed off. When I went to work, this was a thread of 4 comments. I come home and theres 70 of them! I missed the opportunity to re-engage bibble in a debate. But just in case he's still tuned-in - Ian Tomlinson - agreed, officer was wrong (see Nicola Fisher thread), but by any reasonable definition of murder, its not. Manslaughter yes, and I hope the officer is tried and found guilty. Regarding BN1's comments at 7:56pm. No protesters no police. You respond that everyone has the right to protest. Yes (within the constraints previously specified), they do, but had the G20 protest not been occurring, the City of London would not have been policed as it were. Mr Tomlinson would have been free to walk home, would have found no-one to play silly b*ggers with and would not have been pushed over, so the chances are, without the protest he would still be alive. That's all BN1's saying - how can you disagree with that? You youself say 'No police, no dead Ian Tomlinson' but you fail to acknowledge that the ONLY reason the police were there to assault Mr Tomlinson was because the protest was taking place. Now, who mentioned blinkers?
you sound like a load extra's from the jeremy kyle show...
childish point scoring...none of you give a 5h1t about Ian Tomlinson..
THE DEBATE IS..
an ambulanceman being used as a media toy..
he was helping a WOMAN officer and objects were thrown at both of them...the police need a good story after the g20 assaults .
the protesters dont care about the press no more because of there biast comments etc..
the point is our police are out of control..ALL UNDER THE GUISE OF ANTI-TERROR LAWS..
go on idiot say it
''if you have nothing to hide you dont have to worry''
kkj
says...
1:36am Fri 8 May 09
yoyoman wrote:I'll go first.
kkj wrote:kkj bn1 and bibble
I'm severely p*ssed off. When I went to work, this was a thread of 4 comments. I come home and theres 70 of them! I missed the opportunity to re-engage bibble in a debate. But just in case he's still tuned-in - Ian Tomlinson - agreed, officer was wrong (see Nicola Fisher thread), but by any reasonable definition of murder, its not. Manslaughter yes, and I hope the officer is tried and found guilty. Regarding BN1's comments at 7:56pm. No protesters no police. You respond that everyone has the right to protest. Yes (within the constraints previously specified), they do, but had the G20 protest not been occurring, the City of London would not have been policed as it were. Mr Tomlinson would have been free to walk home, would have found no-one to play silly b*ggers with and would not have been pushed over, so the chances are, without the protest he would still be alive. That's all BN1's saying - how can you disagree with that? You youself say 'No police, no dead Ian Tomlinson' but you fail to acknowledge that the ONLY reason the police were there to assault Mr Tomlinson was because the protest was taking place. Now, who mentioned blinkers?
you sound like a load extra's from the jeremy kyle show...
childish point scoring...none of you give a 5h1t about Ian Tomlinson..
THE DEBATE IS..
an ambulanceman being used as a media toy..
he was helping a WOMAN officer and objects were thrown at both of them...the police need a good story after the g20 assaults .
the protesters dont care about the press no more because of there biast comments etc..
the point is our police are out of control..ALL UNDER THE GUISE OF ANTI-TERROR LAWS..
go on idiot say it
''if you have nothing to hide you dont have to worry''
I probably care as much about Ian Tomlinson as you do.
Now, an ambulanceman being used as a media toy - who is using him - not me; I never mentioned him, unlike you.
The remainder of your comment I'll ignore except for the last bit. 'Our police are out of control.' Not entirely. I agree, some of the current legislation is worrying and occasions police behaviour often leads a lot to be desired, but they're hardly kicking in innocent peoples doors and dragging them out of bed on a regular basis now are they? Some perspective please.
And as you use the word 'idiot' I can safely assume that last comment is not addressed to me.
Fight Back
says...
8:39am Fri 8 May 09
yoyoman wrote:It is not Thatchers fault. As is becoming common people are unable to take responsibility for their own actions. You seriously expect police to have friendly relationship with an organisation that has flatly refused to talk to them about the arrangements for the demo ? So not wear body armour when mindless thugs are stomping around town with golf clubs as weapons and covering their faces ??? I went on the Albion demos - not one robo-cop and all happy to chat - why ? - because we held a PEACEFUL demo. SmashEDO are nothing but a bunch of thugs intent on a fight. That is why the services - police, medics etc - have to use armour. What SmashEDO have done is put back any chance of closing down the British arms industry - I don't agree with that aim but they every right to hold it. If they carried out peaceful intelligent protests then they might achieve something. How about targeting other towns and cities rather than just Brighton ? They should look at the campaigns run by Albion fans and Joanna Lumbley for the Gurkkas - one was sucessful in getting a new stadium and the other looks like they have successfully held the government to account. All with no violence to terrorising the local population. I'm sure I'm not the only one who will ensure I support the very businesses SmashEDO want me to avoid purely because of THEIR behaviour.
socrates wrote:some great points there mate..
Lets not forget that this is the same ambulance 'service' that let a disabled civil servant die in his own home as he was 'not worth saving'. Lets not forget that this protest was massively over policed and, of course over reported. I do not believe the content of this story as reported. Lets not forget that the joint task force of police comprised officers from the met and kent forces. Lets not forget that the met and the kent forces have been caught breaking the law and police code many times when faced with legal protests and the press these attract. Lets not forget that an innocent bystander was killed by the met recently for no reason other than being near an angry thug (sorry met officer). I didnt forget any of this and even so I was shocked by what I found when I went into town on this day and found hundreds of police playing soldier (what else do you call columns of police shouting war cries and marching around the city?). I, along with many other ordinary residents watched the police (supposedly there to protect us) being run ragged by a gang of drunken youths who had them on the hop the whole day. Severe threat of terrorism indeed - twits armed with cans of special brew (most wearing city clean uniforms btw) outwitted them. At the pier I watched a met officer assault a young man. His reason for this assault was being called out by a group of people for being one of the officers involved with the tomlinson affair. I stopped him from dragging this youth off by his neck and this brought a few people over to us. The officer decided to assault more people - especially those with cameras. His shoulder number was CO 2885. I reported this on the day to the Sussex police commander and was assured that this officer would be dealt with. I actually trust the words of the local cop but doubt how he can bring an officer from another force to account. The police did eventually see sense and went home thus ending the days carnival of nonsense. This is why we need citizen oversight of our police force in this city - so that we can ensure those that take responsibility for our safety actually live up to this role. As the argus has reported this is something the local police do not want and of course their national bodies support this. If this bothers anyone maybe take time out to check whats going on under your noses and maybe vote once in a while...
scroll up and you will see some numpty's that read the daily mail...
it is a great shame that our police force have gone from laughing and joking on the picket lines and at demo's ...to hating us and treating us like the enemy...
a quote from a senior officer before the g20... ''we are up for it''
Ian Tomlinson's family now have to suffer because one officer was ''up for it''
...the government will not review police tactics until another pc Blakelock incident happens...
the **** police that harassed coloured people in tottenham were knowhere to be seen when pc Blakelock sadly lost his life,,,it was pc Blakelocks first ever time on broadwater farm and the poor guy got knifed because of the actions of other officer's...this will happen again...
THATCHER INVENTED ROBO-COP and 30 years on i cannot see it changing..
..GO TO YOUTUBE AND TYPE IN ''EDO pepperspray brighton'' ...
the suSSex police will be wearing brown shirts soon!!
Tye
says...
8:48am Fri 8 May 09
bibble wrote:well he was asking for it wasn't he?
Osama bin there wrote: They would have been stupid not to wear armour with all those nutters around. I seem to remember an innocent female bystander was injured by a thrown missile? Of course, in Bibbleworld, it was the fault of the police....in fact he'll tell you that the police threw the missile, if you get him going!Perhaps if Ian Tomlinson had armour he might still be alive.
trying to walk in front and impede a line of riot cops clearing a street of "peaceful demonstrators"
Maybe if cops had used water cannon he would be alive today just complaining he got a chill from that cold water!
Arienne Brussels
says...
9:18am Fri 8 May 09
So the organizers have done nothing wrong at all. The demonstration had been announced a long time ago.
To demonstrate is a right and it is a tool to show people and authorities your opinion. And the May Day demo was a big successful demonstration. Lots of people joined the demonstration, there was even a special kids part. Little kids are no thugs eh! And some of the 3 and 5 year olds were wearing masks....
SmashEDO are no thugs with intent on a fight. Contrary! Smash EDO wants to stop fights, wants to stop wars, wants to the arms trade and the factory which are responsible for thousands of horrible deaths in the world. I think it is ridiculous that people are getting so wind up over a demonstration like this! Nothing really bad happened, nothing actually got smashed or broken.The demonstration was overall a success.
Arienne Brussels
says...
9:18am Fri 8 May 09
So the organizers have done nothing wrong at all. The demonstration had been announced a long time ago.
To demonstrate is a right and it is a tool to show people and authorities your opinion. And the May Day demo was a big successful demonstration. Lots of people joined the demonstration, there was even a special kids part. Little kids are no thugs eh! And some of the 3 and 5 year olds were wearing masks....
SmashEDO are no thugs with intent on a fight. Contrary! Smash EDO wants to stop fights, wants to stop wars, wants to the arms trade and the factory which are responsible for thousands of horrible deaths in the world. I think it is ridiculous that people are getting so wind up over a demonstration like this! Nothing really bad happened, nothing actually got smashed or broken.The demonstration was overall a success.
Arienne Brussels
says...
9:18am Fri 8 May 09
So the organizers have done nothing wrong at all. The demonstration had been announced a long time ago.
To demonstrate is a right and it is a tool to show people and authorities your opinion. And the May Day demo was a big successful demonstration. Lots of people joined the demonstration, there was even a special kids part. Little kids are no thugs eh! And some of the 3 and 5 year olds were wearing masks....
SmashEDO are no thugs with intent on a fight. Contrary! Smash EDO wants to stop fights, wants to stop wars, wants to the arms trade and the factory which are responsible for thousands of horrible deaths in the world. I think it is ridiculous that people are getting so wind up over a demonstration like this! Nothing really bad happened, nothing actually got smashed or broken.The demonstration was overall a success.
Osama bin there
says...
9:25am Fri 8 May 09
bibble wrote:Or in Bibbleworld, stumble at the 1st fence and them blame the entire police force for tripping him up!
Bog Vern wrote:He would probably stumble at the first fence, then blame the fence for being on the course.bibble wrote:Blinkers for the first time, 240 at Kempton - does he stand a chance?BN1 wrote: No, it is everyone.I think you're given to exaggeration as well as having blinkers.
Arienne Brussels
says...
9:57am Fri 8 May 09
So the organizers have done nothing wrong at all. The demonstration had been announced a long time ago.
To demonstrate is a right and it is a tool to show people and authorities your opinion. And the May Day demo was a big successful demonstration. Lots of people joined the demonstration, there was even a special kids part. Little kids are no thugs eh! And some of the 3 and 5 year olds were wearing masks....
SmashEDO are no thugs with intent on a fight. Contrary! Smash EDO wants to stop fights, wants to stop wars, wants to the arms trade and the factory which are responsible for thousands of horrible deaths in the world. I think it is ridiculous that people are getting so wind up over a demonstration like this! Nothing really bad happened, nothing actually got smashed or broken.The demonstration was overall a success.
Fight Back
says...
9:57am Fri 8 May 09
Arienne Brussels wrote:It is irresponsible not to ensure adequate provision is taken for public safety before a demo takes place. SmashEDO refused to help the police to provide this. And it is a requirement to provide this information. It is indeed a legal right to be able to protest but with that right comes responsibilities - something SmashEDO seem intent on ignoring.
As far as I know it is legal to have a demonstration and you only have to announce it, by law it is not necessary to discuss the whole demonstration in detail with the police.
So the organizers have done nothing wrong at all. The demonstration had been announced a long time ago.
To demonstrate is a right and it is a tool to show people and authorities your opinion. And the May Day demo was a big successful demonstration. Lots of people joined the demonstration, there was even a special kids part. Little kids are no thugs eh! And some of the 3 and 5 year olds were wearing masks....
SmashEDO are no thugs with intent on a fight. Contrary! Smash EDO wants to stop fights, wants to stop wars, wants to the arms trade and the factory which are responsible for thousands of horrible deaths in the world. I think it is ridiculous that people are getting so wind up over a demonstration like this! Nothing really bad happened, nothing actually got smashed or broken.The demonstration was overall a success.
Nothing got smashed or broken ???? What about the McDonalds window, or the damage to the cafe, or the paint on the police van, or the damamge to some properties in North Laine ?
SmashEDO not a bunch of thugs ? Why does every demo of theirs end in violence then ? The demo could only be classed as a success if you closed down EDO - you haven't, thankfully. SmashEDO ARE thugs who smash property and terrorise local people including EDO employees. What makes it worse is that you hide your faces and are not prepared to give your real names for the media to report on. If your cause was so important to you then you would indentify yourselves rather than walk around town in masks carrying golf clubs.
kkj
says...
9:58am Fri 8 May 09
Arienne Brussels wrote:This may be true in Belgium but not in Britain.
As far as I know it is legal to have a demonstration and you only have to announce it, by law it is not necessary to discuss the whole demonstration in detail with the police.
So the organizers have done nothing wrong at all. The demonstration had been announced a long time ago.
To demonstrate is a right and it is a tool to show people and authorities your opinion. And the May Day demo was a big successful demonstration. Lots of people joined the demonstration, there was even a special kids part. Little kids are no thugs eh! And some of the 3 and 5 year olds were wearing masks....
SmashEDO are no thugs with intent on a fight. Contrary! Smash EDO wants to stop fights, wants to stop wars, wants to the arms trade and the factory which are responsible for thousands of horrible deaths in the world. I think it is ridiculous that people are getting so wind up over a demonstration like this! Nothing really bad happened, nothing actually got smashed or broken.The demonstration was overall a success.
Read
http://www.yourright
s.org.uk/yourrights/
the-right-of-peacefu
l-protest/marches-an
d-processions.html
for details about what the requirements are, specifically the subsection headed 'Advance Notice'.
kkj
says...
10:24am Fri 8 May 09
Arienne Brussels wrote:This may be true in Belgium but not in Britain.
As far as I know it is legal to have a demonstration and you only have to announce it, by law it is not necessary to discuss the whole demonstration in detail with the police.
So the organizers have done nothing wrong at all. The demonstration had been announced a long time ago.
To demonstrate is a right and it is a tool to show people and authorities your opinion. And the May Day demo was a big successful demonstration. Lots of people joined the demonstration, there was even a special kids part. Little kids are no thugs eh! And some of the 3 and 5 year olds were wearing masks....
SmashEDO are no thugs with intent on a fight. Contrary! Smash EDO wants to stop fights, wants to stop wars, wants to the arms trade and the factory which are responsible for thousands of horrible deaths in the world. I think it is ridiculous that people are getting so wind up over a demonstration like this! Nothing really bad happened, nothing actually got smashed or broken.The demonstration was overall a success.
Read
http://www.yourright
s.org.uk/yourrights/
the-right-of-peacefu
l-protest/marches-an
d-processions.html
for details about what the requirements are, specifically the subsection headed 'Advance Notice'.
Dixonian
says...
12:43pm Fri 8 May 09
But there are some people who clearly don't like protestors full stop - as if they are abusing our powers of free speech. Perhaps some are, but most aren't.
Dixonian
says...
12:44pm Fri 8 May 09
But there are some people who clearly don't like protestors full stop - as if they are abusing our powers of free speech. Perhaps some are, but most aren't.
Dixonian
says...
12:44pm Fri 8 May 09
But there are some people who clearly don't like protestors full stop - as if they are abusing our powers of free speech. Perhaps some are, but most aren't.
Dixonian
says...
12:45pm Fri 8 May 09
But there are some people who clearly don't like protestors full stop - as if they are abusing our powers of free speech. Perhaps some are, but most aren't.
cult of edo
says...
1:51pm Fri 8 May 09
Bibble you accuse people who do not protest of being sheep and yet you claim to have been in Brighton and not protested yourself.. does that make you the shepherd?
The whole campaign is built on a lie, that there is an arms factory in Brighton and the overly emotive language the cult members use, souless child killers, murderers, nazis etc is just a verbal wall to try and hide this.
You people who attended the march with good intentions just provided a thin veneer of respectability to cover the cults criminal intent, to smash up what ever they dont like.
For the cult leaders, violent confrontation with the police is a deliberate tactic, they use it to radicalise new recruits, which is exactly what one of the protestors admitted to the Argus.
By your violence and extemism you do great harm to the palestinians cause. You give more ammunition to those who claim that all palestinians and their supporters are terrorists with whom you cannot negotiate.
Do you really think the people of Gaze slept sounder in their beds on Monday night knowing that some drunk crusties were vandalising the Palace Pier.
Bibble as you so often sign off with a name, like Ian Tomlinson heres another name for you
Stephen Oakes
Tye
says...
2:06pm Fri 8 May 09
To everyone else -
Don't bother arguing with the anti-police minority - they will either grow out of it as they mature or end up as professional criminals
PS Bring in DNA testing for EVERYONE - the guilty will once again whinge and bleat
Jim BB
says...
2:59pm Fri 8 May 09
A friend of mine was involved in helping to identify the bodies/body parts after 9/11 - and that's why I'd choose to sign up to a DNA database, for my family's sake - but it should be an opt-in list, not a compulsory one.
I was reading a 2007 book about Brighton today which mentioned Smash EDO, stressing that they were a non-violent organisation.
It's a shame that their message has become so diluted because of the actions of a minority - I wonder if half of those who attended the protests even understood what the message was or if they just came to cause trouble?
Tye
says...
3:43pm Fri 8 May 09
Arienne Brussels wrote:LOL
As far as I know it is legal to have a demonstration and you only have to announce it, by law it is not necessary to discuss the whole demonstration in detail with the police. So the organizers have done nothing wrong at all. The demonstration had been announced a long time ago. To demonstrate is a right and it is a tool to show people and authorities your opinion. And the May Day demo was a big successful demonstration. Lots of people joined the demonstration, there was even a special kids part. Little kids are no thugs eh! And some of the 3 and 5 year olds were wearing masks.... SmashEDO are no thugs with intent on a fight. Contrary! Smash EDO wants to stop fights, wants to stop wars, wants to the arms trade and the factory which are responsible for thousands of horrible deaths in the world. I think it is ridiculous that people are getting so wind up over a demonstration like this! Nothing really bad happened, nothing actually got smashed or broken.The demonstration was overall a success.
Jackanory
Jackanory
bibble
says...
4:55pm Fri 8 May 09
cult of edo wrote:Attempting to link violent protest with extremism is a mistake.
Violent protests are nothing to do with free speech. It was the leaders of the cult of edo that instructed their followers to come along and be prepared to fight, it was them that talked about a show of force and it was them that called themselves Smash edo and they have shown again and again that they mean that literally. For a tiny minority of people to try and impose their extremist views on the majority through violence harrasment and intimidation angers people because it is fundamentally anti democratic. Bibble you accuse people who do not protest of being sheep and yet you claim to have been in Brighton and not protested yourself.. does that make you the shepherd? The whole campaign is built on a lie, that there is an arms factory in Brighton and the overly emotive language the cult members use, souless child killers, murderers, nazis etc is just a verbal wall to try and hide this. You people who attended the march with good intentions just provided a thin veneer of respectability to cover the cults criminal intent, to smash up what ever they dont like. For the cult leaders, violent confrontation with the police is a deliberate tactic, they use it to radicalise new recruits, which is exactly what one of the protestors admitted to the Argus. By your violence and extemism you do great harm to the palestinians cause. You give more ammunition to those who claim that all palestinians and their supporters are terrorists with whom you cannot negotiate. Do you really think the people of Gaze slept sounder in their beds on Monday night knowing that some drunk crusties were vandalising the Palace Pier. Bibble as you so often sign off with a name, like Ian Tomlinson heres another name for you Stephen Oakes
If the powers that be listened, there would be no need for violence.
Let's go back to the Gulf War for a few seconds. There was a huge protest, I think possibly even the biggest ever in this country. The government didn't listen. If a few hundred protestors broke into Downing Street and wrecked it, together with the Foreign Office and MOD, perhaps the result would have been different.
Violent protest is INEVITABLE if the people close their ears.
bibble
says...
4:58pm Fri 8 May 09
Tye wrote:People are right to be anti-police when the police are so clearly anti-people.
Oh Socrates - what an ego in choosing your nom de guerre To everyone else - Don't bother arguing with the anti-police minority - they will either grow out of it as they mature or end up as professional criminals PS Bring in DNA testing for EVERYONE - the guilty will once again whinge and bleat
The police have forgotten who pays them, and they have forgotten that they are public servants and not lords and masters.
The only innocent people who should be on the DNA database are those advocating putting innocent people on the DNA database. They are would-be totalitarians.
Bog Vern
says...
5:28pm Fri 8 May 09
bibble wrote:Bibble
Tye wrote:People are right to be anti-police when the police are so clearly anti-people.
Oh Socrates - what an ego in choosing your nom de guerre To everyone else - Don't bother arguing with the anti-police minority - they will either grow out of it as they mature or end up as professional criminals PS Bring in DNA testing for EVERYONE - the guilty will once again whinge and bleat
The police have forgotten who pays them, and they have forgotten that they are public servants and not lords and masters.
The only innocent people who should be on the DNA database are those advocating putting innocent people on the DNA database. They are would-be totalitarians.
I am going out tonight - do you think brown goes with green or should I just dress all in black?
cult of edo
says...
5:44pm Fri 8 May 09
You cannot get around the contradiction of a peace movement using violence to achieve their aims. The violence is a deliberate tool of the cult leaders to radicalise a new generation of recruits, its an old old old left wing tactic. You know that the cult leaders have played the role of puppet masters with the protestors who they have lied to and manipulated in order to provide a cover for their activities. For the leaders of the cult, democracy is just an inconvenience, it means they cant just dictate to others what they are allowed to think and do.
BN1
says...
5:47pm Fri 8 May 09
BN1
says...
5:57pm Fri 8 May 09
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bibble
says...
6:02pm Fri 8 May 09
cult of edo wrote:No, violent protest is not extreme. Violent protest happens when the powers that be, typically the government, turn a deaf ear to protest.
Bibble, violent protest is extreme and is undertaken by extremists and in this context could only be justified if the edo factory was an arms factory. If edo is an arms factory why, when the cult members broke into it, did they find no arms, or weapons systems. They could have gone to the shop floor to see what was being made but they didnt, they could have looked for invoices, purchase orders and shipping logs to see what was being made and who was buying it but they didnt. Read the article on the Guardian website about the break in written by one of the leaders, all the usual half truths and lies are there as well as the fact that the cult member uses the word trotskyist as an insult. This shows clearly the mindset of those who lead the cult, they are stuck in a 1980s world of left wing extremism. For them the edo protest is a means to an end, they dont care if it shuts or not they are just using the protests as a recruiting sargeant for their left wing fantasies of building a mass movement that will rise up and overthrow the old order. You cannot get around the contradiction of a peace movement using violence to achieve their aims. The violence is a deliberate tool of the cult leaders to radicalise a new generation of recruits, its an old old old left wing tactic. You know that the cult leaders have played the role of puppet masters with the protestors who they have lied to and manipulated in order to provide a cover for their activities. For the leaders of the cult, democracy is just an inconvenience, it means they cant just dictate to others what they are allowed to think and do.
Go and read up on the Gulf War demonstrations and you will see why violent protest is often necessary.
The state can't have it all its own way. If the state refuses to listen, more violent action is entirely justified in my view.
I will not condemn violent action. I will instead condemn that violence is sometimes necessary. I condemn those in government who refuse to listen, parroting whatever their party line is.
I don't speak for Smash EDO, and I don't know what methods they use nor what action they advocate.
If violent protest is extreme, is not violent policing in return also extreme? I suppose you would say no, it's necessary. Then how do you square that argument with your last paragraph about contradictions?
BN1
says...
6:15pm Fri 8 May 09
Bog Vern
says...
6:22pm Fri 8 May 09
Should I use brylcream or rigid gel for my hair?
Also - I am thinking of changing my car soon - should I continue with the Bentley Continental or be more modest and buy an Austin Allegro?
HELP
cult of edo
says...
6:25pm Fri 8 May 09
Bog Vern
says...
6:37pm Fri 8 May 09
On a more serious note - how do you get bubble gum out of a carpet?
It is a really deep shag pile.
colin218uk
says...
6:41pm Fri 8 May 09
Can we be sure as well that the photograph hasn't been touched up with Photoshop?
colin218uk
says...
6:42pm Fri 8 May 09
Can we be sure as well that the photograph hasn't been touched up with Photoshop?
churchst
says...
8:20pm Fri 8 May 09
Bog Vern wrote:No-one seems care or respond to childish comments Bog... so why bother? You've been trying so hard...
Bibble
On a more serious note - how do you get bubble gum out of a carpet?
It is a really deep shag pile.
Is you life that mundane? Is there nothing better for you to do than to continue this pathetic 'attack'.
You might think your anonymous here, that no-one knows who you really are... but there is someone who know does.
you.
Bog Vern
says...
8:34pm Fri 8 May 09
churchst wrote:You did
Bog Vern wrote:No-one seems care or respond to childish comments Bog... so why bother? You've been trying so hard...
Bibble
On a more serious note - how do you get bubble gum out of a carpet?
It is a really deep shag pile.
Is you life that mundane? Is there nothing better for you to do than to continue this pathetic 'attack'.
You might think your anonymous here, that no-one knows who you really are... but there is someone who know does.
you.
HA HA HA
Bog Vern
says...
8:37pm Fri 8 May 09
How long does it take to boil an egg? Do I have time to go out for a run or not?
xxxxxx
BN1
says...
8:44pm Fri 8 May 09
Dear Smash EDO...
John Rambo.
says...
9:32pm Fri 8 May 09
Partygoer
says...
12:09pm Sat 9 May 09
Dear Argus,
I was part of a group of first aiders who provided first aid to people on the May Day demonstration in Brighton. After witnessing violent policing and incompetent police medics on previous demonstrations we felt this was necessary.
The Argus on Tuesday reported that 3 police officers had been injured. I’d like to add that our group of first aiders treated approximately 40 people, mainly for minor injuries. These included a fractured finger, soft tissue injuries from police batoning to the legs and police jabbing batons in the abdomen, and an open knee wound.
The Argus also reported that ‘one person was struck in the face by a missile and had to be treated by a police medical team.’ At the request of the injured person the police medics quickly handed this patient to our group of medics who treated her.
An asthmatic protester was hit on the chest by police batons. While first aiders were trying to calm his breathing police were trying to clear the area. A friendly shop keeper let the man be treated in his shop.
Some first aiders were concerned that they’d seen a protester knocked unconscious by police batons. Police medics would not allow them to treat the casualty. When he regained consciousness they believed he was arrested.
First aiders witnessed another protester being knocked to the ground, and repeatedly hit with batons. Shortly after one of the first aiders was hit with a police shield.
At the palace pier, first aiders witnessed and called 999 for a woman who was having multiple seizures. Between seizures she got up and ran through police lines. When trying to pursue her, first aiders were told by a police medic to ignore her because she was ‘doing it for attention’. The first aiders successfully managed to guide paramedics to her.
Yours Sincerely,
First-aider, Brighton.
Partygoer
says...
12:09pm Sat 9 May 09
Dear Argus,
I was part of a group of first aiders who provided first aid to people on the May Day demonstration in Brighton. After witnessing violent policing and incompetent police medics on previous demonstrations we felt this was necessary.
The Argus on Tuesday reported that 3 police officers had been injured. I’d like to add that our group of first aiders treated approximately 40 people, mainly for minor injuries. These included a fractured finger, soft tissue injuries from police batoning to the legs and police jabbing batons in the abdomen, and an open knee wound.
The Argus also reported that ‘one person was struck in the face by a missile and had to be treated by a police medical team.’ At the request of the injured person the police medics quickly handed this patient to our group of medics who treated her.
An asthmatic protester was hit on the chest by police batons. While first aiders were trying to calm his breathing police were trying to clear the area. A friendly shop keeper let the man be treated in his shop.
Some first aiders were concerned that they’d seen a protester knocked unconscious by police batons. Police medics would not allow them to treat the casualty. When he regained consciousness they believed he was arrested.
First aiders witnessed another protester being knocked to the ground, and repeatedly hit with batons. Shortly after one of the first aiders was hit with a police shield.
At the palace pier, first aiders witnessed and called 999 for a woman who was having multiple seizures. Between seizures she got up and ran through police lines. When trying to pursue her, first aiders were told by a police medic to ignore her because she was ‘doing it for attention’. The first aiders successfully managed to guide paramedics to her.
Yours Sincerely,
First-aider, Brighton.
Partygoer
says...
12:09pm Sat 9 May 09
Dear Argus,
I was part of a group of first aiders who provided first aid to people on the May Day demonstration in Brighton. After witnessing violent policing and incompetent police medics on previous demonstrations we felt this was necessary.
The Argus on Tuesday reported that 3 police officers had been injured. I’d like to add that our group of first aiders treated approximately 40 people, mainly for minor injuries. These included a fractured finger, soft tissue injuries from police batoning to the legs and police jabbing batons in the abdomen, and an open knee wound.
The Argus also reported that ‘one person was struck in the face by a missile and had to be treated by a police medical team.’ At the request of the injured person the police medics quickly handed this patient to our group of medics who treated her.
An asthmatic protester was hit on the chest by police batons. While first aiders were trying to calm his breathing police were trying to clear the area. A friendly shop keeper let the man be treated in his shop.
Some first aiders were concerned that they’d seen a protester knocked unconscious by police batons. Police medics would not allow them to treat the casualty. When he regained consciousness they believed he was arrested.
First aiders witnessed another protester being knocked to the ground, and repeatedly hit with batons. Shortly after one of the first aiders was hit with a police shield.
At the palace pier, first aiders witnessed and called 999 for a woman who was having multiple seizures. Between seizures she got up and ran through police lines. When trying to pursue her, first aiders were told by a police medic to ignore her because she was ‘doing it for attention’. The first aiders successfully managed to guide paramedics to her.
Yours Sincerely,
First-aider, Brighton.
Partygoer
says...
12:23pm Sat 9 May 09
Dear Argus,
I was part of a group of first aiders who provided first aid to people on the May Day demonstration in Brighton. After witnessing violent policing and incompetent police medics on previous demonstrations we felt this was necessary.
The Argus on Tuesday reported that 3 police officers had been injured. I’d like to add that our group of first aiders treated approximately 40 people, mainly for minor injuries. These included a fractured finger, soft tissue injuries from police batoning to the legs and police jabbing batons in the abdomen, and an open knee wound.
The Argus also reported that ‘one person was struck in the face by a missile and had to be treated by a police medical team.’ At the request of the injured person the police medics quickly handed this patient to our group of medics who treated her.
An asthmatic protester was hit on the chest by police batons. While first aiders were trying to calm his breathing police were trying to clear the area. A friendly shop keeper let the man be treated in his shop.
Some first aiders were concerned that they’d seen a protester knocked unconscious by police batons. Police medics would not allow them to treat the casualty. When he regained consciousness they believed he was arrested.
First aiders witnessed another protester being knocked to the ground, and repeatedly hit with batons. Shortly after one of the first aiders was hit with a police shield.
At the palace pier, first aiders witnessed and called 999 for a woman who was having multiple seizures. Between seizures she got up and ran through police lines. When trying to pursue her, first aiders were told by a police medic to ignore her because she was ‘doing it for attention’. The first aiders successfully managed to guide paramedics to her.
Yours Sincerely,
First-aider, Brighton.
Partygoer
says...
12:29pm Sat 9 May 09
Dear Argus,
I was part of a group of first aiders who provided first aid to people on the May Day demonstration in Brighton. After witnessing violent policing and incompetent police medics on previous demonstrations we felt this was necessary.
The Argus on Tuesday reported that 3 police officers had been injured. I’d like to add that our group of first aiders treated approximately 40 people, mainly for minor injuries. These included a fractured finger, soft tissue injuries from police batoning to the legs and police jabbing batons in the abdomen, and an open knee wound.
The Argus also reported that ‘one person was struck in the face by a missile and had to be treated by a police medical team.’ At the request of the injured person the police medics quickly handed this patient to our group of medics who treated her.
An asthmatic protester was hit on the chest by police batons. While first aiders were trying to calm his breathing police were trying to clear the area. A friendly shop keeper let the man be treated in his shop.
Some first aiders were concerned that they’d seen a protester knocked unconscious by police batons. Police medics would not allow them to treat the casualty. When he regained consciousness they believed he was arrested.
First aiders witnessed another protester being knocked to the ground, and repeatedly hit with batons. Shortly after one of the first aiders was hit with a police shield.
At the palace pier, first aiders witnessed and called 999 for a woman who was having multiple seizures. Between seizures she got up and ran through police lines. When trying to pursue her, first aiders were told by a police medic to ignore her because she was ‘doing it for attention’. The first aiders successfully managed to guide paramedics to her.
Yours Sincerely,
First-aider, Brighton.
lastgasp
says...
10:30pm Sun 10 May 09
A police officer in full body armour, acting as a security guard for a private arms company is another matter. after 5 years of protests against EDO the police force, (and it is a force regardless of their PR), has lost the respect of almost everybody who has encountered them on any demonstration. Nasty, brutish, ignorant thugs the lot of them. Come on sussex ambulance, dont dress like police, you are a well respected and loved service in this town. x
PvtWooly
says...
7:04pm Mon 11 May 09
lastgasp wrote:Unfortunately... People do attack Ambulance staff...Protest or no protest.
What the hell is a paramedic doing dressed in armour with a shield looking identical to a police officer? Methinks he's in the wrong job. Noone would attack a clearly marked out paramedic unless they had serious mental health problems. A police officer in full body armour, acting as a security guard for a private arms company is another matter. after 5 years of protests against EDO the police force, (and it is a force regardless of their PR), has lost the respect of almost everybody who has encountered them on any demonstration. Nasty, brutish, ignorant thugs the lot of them. Come on sussex ambulance, dont dress like police, you are a well respected and loved service in this town. x
When all they are doing is trying to help! I dont blame that paramedic for being dressed as he is.
lastgasp
says...
11:04pm Mon 11 May 09
Bobster
says...
11:55am Tue 12 May 09
lastgasp wrote:How naiive your comment is. Never heard of kids chucking stones at firefighters?
What the hell is a paramedic doing dressed in armour with a shield looking identical to a police officer? Methinks he's in the wrong job. Noone would attack a clearly marked out paramedic unless they had serious mental health problems. A police officer in full body armour, acting as a security guard for a private arms company is another matter. after 5 years of protests against EDO the police force, (and it is a force regardless of their PR), has lost the respect of almost everybody who has encountered them on any demonstration. Nasty, brutish, ignorant thugs the lot of them. Come on sussex ambulance, dont dress like police, you are a well respected and loved service in this town. x
Please knock when you want to come back in from dreamland.
lastgasp
says...
12:43pm Tue 12 May 09
Mr nothing head
says...
1:26pm Tue 26 May 09
No more 'civilian' excuses...
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mike_on_the_mike says...
2:39pm Thu 7 May 09
Much credit to him though, I'm sure many would shy at the thought of putting themselves in harm's way to help others.