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Comment: 'What if you don't follow a religion?'
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| Young people take part in an Easter procession in Worthing |
Christianity, Judaism and Islam are all
mainstays of the religious education
curriculum in Sussex.
But humanist Andrew Edmondson argues it is a breach of children's
human rights not to be taught how people
can live well without following a religion. Andy Chiles reports.
From the age of four children
across Sussex are taught about
the life and teachings of Christ
and Allah.
They learn how and why
Christianity, Judaism and Islam
developed and the ways followers
choose to, or have to, show their
devotion.
Later in their school lives they
are taught about Buddhism,
Sikhism and Hinduism, as well as
other religions.
The syllabus has provoked argument
and debate. Different groups
believe different aspects should be
expanded, reduced, or dropped
altogether.
Some believe traditional
Christianity and Bible stories
should be emphasised, some think
they have become irrelevant.
But what happens if you do not
follow a faith at all?
The question is whether learning
about religion should include
lessons in non-religious living.
Andrew Edmondson, of Mid
Sussex Freethinkers, has been
battling to force West Sussex to
make humanism, or secularism, a
fixture in its curriculum.
He argues children need to be
aware that they can lead a good and
ethical life, as humanism encourages,
without following the doctrines
of a formal religion.
Mr Edmondson says: "Up until
now, community schools in West
Sussex have been advised to teach
children religious world views but
ignore the non-religious."
He says that with the syllabus for
West Sussex about to be fixed for
the next five years it is important
action is taken.
Humanism, as Mr Edmondson
explains, is the concept of being
dedicated to living a good, moral
and ethical life without subscribing
to a formal religion and
worshipping deities.
The current curriculums in
Sussex allow schools to touch on
the subject but it is not compulsory.
It is up to individual teachers
whether they discuss humanism
and Mr Edmondson argues that
this means it is often ignored.
The biggest issue, he claims, is
that not teaching children about
this kind of lifestyle is an abuse of
their rights.
He says: "It is against the Human
Rights Act and can be considered a
form of indoctrination, as the
Religious Education Council points
out.
"Schools are now obliged to promote
community cohesion, which
can hardly be achieved by excluding
the non-religious.
"Humanism is the belief that we
can lead good lives without religion,
and that the world is best
explained using reason, science and
shared human experience."
Mr Edmondson is a representative
of the British Humanist Association
(BHA), which was formed as
an organisation to represent the
non-religious.
He applied unsuccessfully for a
place on the West Sussex Standing
Advisory Council for Religious
Education (SACRE) last year.
SACRE is responsible for setting
the county's RE syllabus.
One of Mr Edmondson's fellow
BHA members was successfully
voted on to the equivalent body for
Brighton and Hove.
Despite missing out on membership,
Mr Edmondson has continued
to attend SACRE meetings as an
observer and make recommendations
to it.
He says a recent MORI poll
showed that 36 per cent of people
prefer humanist views, while a
report from the Department for
Education and Skills showed that
65% of 12 to 19-year-olds are not
religious.
He says: "The new religious education
syllabus for West Sussex
runs from September and lasts for
five years.
"For the first time, it mentions
secular world views, which is a
welcome first step towards the
inclusion of the non-religious.
"Unfortunately, the syllabus
advises schools to teach nonreligious
world views only where
appropriate'.
"The obvious question is when
is it inappropriate to teach non-religious
world views in a state-funded
community school."
He says the framework followed
by West Sussex was drawn up by
the Qualifications and Curriculum
Authority, whose RE advisor did
not give any instance when it
would be inappropriate.
Mr Edmondson says: "The new
RE syllabus now contains a reference
to humanism in its preamble.
But I was unable to remove the
phrase where appropriate' from
the RE syllabus."
He adds that the gap in the curriculum
is something he feels local
politicians want addressed.
He says: "As a local development
volunteer for the BHA, I represent
the non-religious in local government
consultations concerning
equality, diversity and social
cohesion.
"Council officers are keen to seek
humanist involvement. In contrast,
the archaic SACRE system is holding
back progress in West Sussex.
"A broad and balanced education
is essential for social cohesion, as
are community schools.
"West Sussex County Council
needs to make an effort to break the
divisive traditions of the past.
"Schools, especially primary
schools, are not going to change
their practices without clear guidance."
Mr Edmondson runs Mid Sussex
Freethinkers (www.midsussexfreethinkers.org.uk), which will hold
its next meeting in the Red Lion
pub, in High Street, Handcross, on
Thursday, April 17, at 7.30pm. Call
01444 811413 for information.
The Brighton and Hove Humanist
Society next meets at the Lord
Nelson Inn, in Trafalgar Street, on
Wednesday, May 7, at 7.30pm. Call
01273 461404 for information.
12:37pm Thursday 3rd April 2008
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CommentPosted by: John Eriscsson, London on 10:52am Fri 4 Apr 08
If we use god/religion as the foundation for teaching morals and ethics, what happens if a child no longer believes in it? No god, no right or wrong?
Lets not separate children at age of five by telling them that their religious differences are so great they can not even be taught together.
If we use god/religion as the foundation for teaching morals and ethics, what happens if a child no longer believes in it? No god, no right or wrong?
Lets not separate children at age of five by telling them that their religious differences are so great they can not even be taught together.
Posted by: Stuart Hartill, Isle of man on 11:38am Fri 4 Apr 08
I face exactly the same problem with my child in the Isle of man, where religious education policy is made by a secretive committee containing by law only members of the most right wing churches and chaired by a Bishop selected by Gordon Brown.
I am, by usual standards, a pillar of the community - 30 years a member of Amnesty international and other human rights groups etc. - and respected as such by local liberal Christians. Yet my child's moral education is dictated by people who have displayed racist, sexist and homophobic views and there is nothing I can do about it.
I face exactly the same problem with my child in the Isle of man, where religious education policy is made by a secretive committee containing by law only members of the most right wing churches and chaired by a Bishop selected by Gordon Brown.
I am, by usual standards, a pillar of the community - 30 years a member of Amnesty international and other human rights groups etc. - and respected as such by local liberal Christians. Yet my child's moral education is dictated by people who have displayed racist, sexist and homophobic views and there is nothing I can do about it.
Posted by: Keith, Essex England on 12:58pm Fri 4 Apr 08
When considering all the measures New Labour have taken to empower and massively fund religion it does appear that collectively these measures represent an extreme form of discrimination against non religious people.If the non religious have the same rights as the religious why is this not a hate crime?
When considering all the measures New Labour have taken to empower and massively fund religion it does appear that collectively these measures represent an extreme form of discrimination against non religious people.If the non religious have the same rights as the religious why is this not a hate crime?
Posted by: Andrew Edmondson, Balcombe, West Sussex on 7:25pm Fri 4 Apr 08
I am appearing on BBC Souther Counties radio programme "Faith and Ethics" at around 7am this Sunday. They will be talking about the new RE syllabus and RE in general.
I shall be archiving a recording on my website, so no need to get up that early!
Here is a working link to Mid Sussex Freethinkers: http://www.MidSussex
Freethinkers.org.uk as the above link is not working.
I am appearing on BBC Souther Counties radio programme "Faith and Ethics" at around 7am this Sunday. They will be talking about the new RE syllabus and RE in general.
I shall be archiving a recording on my website, so no need to get up that early!
Here is a working link to Mid Sussex Freethinkers: http://www.MidSussex
Freethinkers.org.uk as the above link is not working.
Posted by: Andrew Edmondson, Balcombe, West Sussex on 7:27pm Fri 4 Apr 08
The new link doesn't work either. Copy and paste the first link.
The new link doesn't work either. Copy and paste the first link.
Posted by: Anthony Hopkins, Brighton on 7:18am Sat 5 Apr 08
Children should make up their own minds.
Remember the biggest cause of wars & conflict is religion - which we are starting to see
globally - Nostradmos predicted the third world war would enamate from the Middle East.
Children should make up their own minds.
Remember the biggest cause of wars & conflict is religion - which we are starting to see
globally - Nostradmos predicted the third world war would enamate from the Middle East.
Posted by: Andrew Edmondson, Balcombe, West Sussex on 2:44pm Sat 5 Apr 08
That's the whole problem Anthony. Children are not being given the chance to make up their own minds.
To do so, they would need to be taught in a balanced way, which they are not. Week in, week out, they are being taught religious beliefs and practices in meticulous detail. But they are not being taught about the alternative, i.e. non-religious beliefs. How one-sided can you get?
This is against the Humand Rights Act (discrimination on the gounds of religion or belief; and witholding knowledge from children). It is also a form of indoctrination, according to the Religious Education Council.
Starting Religious Education from the age of 4 is dangerous. Schools should wait until children are old enough to form their own views.
As for prohecy, weeing into the future is a form of sperstition which should not be encouraged. Most predictions do not come true. Of course, some will come true by pure coincidence. I wouldn't cancel your life insurance in a hurry.
That's the whole problem Anthony. Children are not being given the chance to make up their own minds.
To do so, they would need to be taught in a balanced way, which they are not. Week in, week out, they are being taught religious beliefs and practices in meticulous detail. But they are not being taught about the alternative, i.e. non-religious beliefs. How one-sided can you get?
This is against the Humand Rights Act (discrimination on the gounds of religion or belief; and witholding knowledge from children). It is also a form of indoctrination, according to the Religious Education Council.
Starting Religious Education from the age of 4 is dangerous. Schools should wait until children are old enough to form their own views.
As for prohecy, weeing into the future is a form of sperstition which should not be encouraged. Most predictions do not come true. Of course, some will come true by pure coincidence. I wouldn't cancel your life insurance in a hurry.
Posted by: Andrew Edmondson, Balcombe, West Sussex on 2:47pm Sat 5 Apr 08
Sorry for the typos!
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