Translator Tom wrote:
Mr Turner said: "Climate change is far and away the most important thing on the political agenda." What he meant was: "by using the words climate change I am hoping to appeal to ignorant voters with buzz-words and cliches that I have recently hear being used but that I don't really understand or grasp the concepts of."

S.T. Rewth wrote:
Always amused to see people being called bigots because they happen to have differnt views to the supposed righteous!

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GetWithTheProgramme wrote:
The sooner you start taking a positive action on this crucial issue, the better for all of our chances in an uncertain future. Our dependency on oil is just not sustainable and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. Out of interest, most of the percentage of the 100 people attending on Saturday, including myself, are not only full-time working and council-tax paying citizens, but we are committed to a secure and long-lasting future for us all, so please don't patronise us with your undermining suggestions that it is only the 'great unwashed' who come out on a Saturday to make their voices heard. Soon your ignorant denial will be drowned out by a future that is defined by inventive, high-tech and long-lasting carbon-free ways of living, that will transform society - building collective resilience in the face of climate change and the end of oil. Historically, many civilizations have been too short sighted to invent new ways of thinking and living, consequently causing themselves to be wiped out as they use up all available resources, expand into and stretch their environment to the absolute limits that it could support. As a species we need to adapt to survive, and right now this means getting real about climate change and responding to it appropriately. What is 'appropriate' is a strong Climate Law is actually scientifically effective in the face of the facts and without which we all really don't have a hope in hell. Without the inclusion of aviation and shipping in this Bill, the whole thing is a complete farce.

GetWithTheProgramme wrote:
Kindly stop wasting our time with your ill-informed arguments. Please get back to the debate when you've done some research on the issue.

flatulence wrote:
I was swimming at the King Alfred on Saturday afternoon. Didn't notice any Pole dancers, just a few immigrant families teaching their kids to swim.

Stephen Watson wrote:
Reading some comments here it's really hard to tell these days whether it's simply the state of our education system, wilful ignorance or some attempt at 'humour' but it obviously needs saying again: Global Warming is the cause. Climate Change is the result. When you have afternoon tea in the garden on Saturday and it snows the next day, that's a change in the weather. When 90% of the hottest years have been in the last decade, that's a change in the climate. Is that clear? Good.

Jacob Skinner wrote:
The negative comments left about this event should be dismissed as the angsty nonsense of the badly educated bigots expressing them. The weight of public opinion is now clearly behind the very sentiments of the organisers of this event and the presence of two of our local MP's shows that the threat of Climate Change is now an extremely important political issue. The issues raised by this event are part of a growing movement and in a short space of time this will become clear, even to these idiotic few, who will of course then move on to poke holes in another selfless minority. Well done to the organisers. Brighton is a trend setter and we should be proud.

steve wrote:
What a load of idiots we have in Brighton.Climate change is caused by SOLAR ACTIVITY,and Nothing we do can CHANGE THAT FACT.

Jacob Skinner wrote:

steve wrote: What a load of idiots we have in Brighton.Climate change is caused by SOLAR ACTIVITY,and Nothing we do can CHANGE THAT FACT.

The 'great global warming swindle' used this 'fact', it is actually fiction. In fact all the nonsense of that film has been proved to be wrong and I advise those clinging to such piffle to go away and reassess the 'facts' of men made climate change. It really is a shame that grown adults can communicate so dismissively and without common courtesy.

GetWithTheProgramme wrote:
The issue here is no longer whether Climate Change is man-made or not. That debate is conclusively done and dusted. If you are not familiar with what 1000's of scientists have come to a consensus upon then have a trawl through http://www.realclima te.org This website http://www.skeptical science.com/argument .php also seems to cover all the skeptical arguments outlined in this thread. The fact remains that certain 'powers that be' continue to hold a vested interest in thwarting widespread political/environmen tal changes and thereby maintaining their 'business as usual'. In creating an impression that there is a sense of uncertainty surrounding this issue, they hope people and politicians alike, will hesitate and falter - delaying or watering down the measures - and hence securing the buoyancy of their profits. Their tried and tested tactics largely involve the introduction of 'uncertainty' into every Climate Change debate, however scientifically unfounded. All that matters is to present a counter voice and to attack the views that threaten their interest. Their constant nit-picking over detail and flat-denials, simply intend to muddy the waters and prevent the true voice of scientific fact from ringing clear. There is a certain conscious belligerence going on in many responses here. I would posit that these time-wasting debaters need to take responsibility for the effects of their flame-fanning. Every day we lose more chances. 'Debate' on this issue really does not hold the intelligent higher ground anymore. We need urgent and effective action from central government, as the carbon bottom line won't wait around for all these doubters to be convinced.

Phil wrote:

GetWithTheProgramme wrote: The issue here is no longer whether Climate Change is man-made or not. That debate is conclusively done and dusted. If you are not familiar with what 1000's of scientists have come to a consensus upon then have a trawl through http://www.realclima te.org This website http://www.skeptical science.com/argument .php also seems to cover all the skeptical arguments outlined in this thread. The fact remains that certain 'powers that be' continue to hold a vested interest in thwarting widespread political/environmen tal changes and thereby maintaining their 'business as usual'. In creating an impression that there is a sense of uncertainty surrounding this issue, they hope people and politicians alike, will hesitate and falter - delaying or watering down the measures - and hence securing the buoyancy of their profits. Their tried and tested tactics largely involve the introduction of 'uncertainty' into every Climate Change debate, however scientifically unfounded. All that matters is to present a counter voice and to attack the views that threaten their interest. Their constant nit-picking over detail and flat-denials, simply intend to muddy the waters and prevent the true voice of scientific fact from ringing clear. There is a certain conscious belligerence going on in many responses here. I would posit that these time-wasting debaters need to take responsibility for the effects of their flame-fanning. Every day we lose more chances. 'Debate' on this issue really does not hold the intelligent higher ground anymore. We need urgent and effective action from central government, as the carbon bottom line won't wait around for all these doubters to be convinced.

'Nit Picking' - no just honest thirst for information. I am afraid that until there is complete evidence to support your views then I will not change my ways. We have been fed part truths, part lies, part hopes and part debates many times by Govts, agencies and pressure groups. They all have their own agendas and I believe none of them.