Vincelot could still have a role to play with Albion (From The Argus)
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Vincelot could still have a role to play with Albion
5:00pm Tuesday 30th October 2012 in Sport By Andy Naylor
Romain Vincelot is on loan at Gillingham
Gus Poyet has refused to call time on Romain Vincelot’s Albion career.
The manager insists Vincelot could yet play a part in the Seagulls’ Championship campaign, despite being loaned out to Gillingham and told at the start of the season his future is elsewhere.
Poyet says the move to the League Two leaders may turn into a route back into first team contention for the versatile Frenchman.
He told The Argus: “It depends on what he does and how he plays and what we need at the time.
“I always say when players are under contract there is always a chance because you don’t know what is going to happen. Maybe you get a virus and have ten players out.
“I hope it works out for him because he is a very good professional and I don’t have a bad word for him. He trains every day with no complaints and never asks for any extra days off.”
Vincelot, under contract until next summer, scored on his debut for Gillingham in Saturday’s 1-0 win at AFC Wimbledon after joining them for two months.
He has played in several positions for Albion but chose the Kent club for the chance to revert to the attacking midfield role he adopted with success with previous club Dagenham and Redbridge.
Poyet revealed: “There were a few clubs interested in him that wanted him to play at full-back but he was looking for an opportunity to play as an attacking midfielder and get in the box.
“He did that very well at Dagenham. It was not an easy decision for him to drop a couple of divisions but I am pleased for him that he has gone in there and scored.”
Comments(39)
saraman
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5:39pm Tue 30 Oct 12
heathgate
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5:40pm Tue 30 Oct 12
The Real Ryfish
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5:46pm Tue 30 Oct 12
heathgate wrote:Because he was signed as defensive cover.
I cant help but ask why he was signed from on his performances as an attacking m/f player, then played in defence for us. I liked him and feel sorry he has been treated this way when you think of some of the one dimensional players still in situ with us.
wiseman of hove
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5:49pm Tue 30 Oct 12
john newman
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5:53pm Tue 30 Oct 12
Jonathan Mouette
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5:54pm Tue 30 Oct 12
cvs
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6:00pm Tue 30 Oct 12
saraman
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6:02pm Tue 30 Oct 12
cvs wrote:Spot on CVS
I'm not sure any of the squad know what role they're in at the moment. Mostly they just look confused lately
championshipgull
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6:17pm Tue 30 Oct 12
wiseman of hove
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6:45pm Tue 30 Oct 12
PittaPatta
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6:52pm Tue 30 Oct 12
championshipgull wrote:I would have thought that the return to 7 subs would have helped his cause to be honest. A utility player is worth his weight in gold imho, because they make the changing of systems during a match that much easier to implement.
Vincelot's place in the squad as a utility player had more relevance when we had only 5 subs last season, now we have gone back to back to 7 it has not helped him keep the place.
Always liked what I saw of Vincelot, and really hope that Gus takes him back for a purposeful reason.
Hovite
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7:01pm Tue 30 Oct 12
john newman wrote:Yeah, Noone was a loss, but he must have wanted to go to a good club nearer hhome. Cardiff had been on the cards for seven months and it was a good move for him.
Agree with sentiments. Gus seems lacking clarity of thought. Still think Noone was a loss.
For all his lack of a final ball last season, he started this season with us without this problem, before he moved. He didn't just suddenly become good at Cardiff, he is a good player and has a great future.
championshipgull
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7:01pm Tue 30 Oct 12
PittaPatta wrote:Because we have more subs we can have specialist players on the bench, so you don’t need a utility player.
championshipgull wrote:I would have thought that the return to 7 subs would have helped his cause to be honest. A utility player is worth his weight in gold imho, because they make the changing of systems during a match that much easier to implement.
Vincelot's place in the squad as a utility player had more relevance when we had only 5 subs last season, now we have gone back to back to 7 it has not helped him keep the place.
Always liked what I saw of Vincelot, and really hope that Gus takes him back for a purposeful reason.
Jonathan Mouette
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7:06pm Tue 30 Oct 12
Gibseagull
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7:14pm Tue 30 Oct 12
wiseman of hove wrote:Maybe a return to the bench on Friday?
Whilst we are on the subject of out of favour players, is there any significance in the fact that Hoskins played no part in the development squad match yesterday? I was hoping he might at least make the bench on Friday, ready to step up to the plate.
PittaPatta
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7:37pm Tue 30 Oct 12
championshipgull wrote:A utility player IS a specialist player in my book.
PittaPatta wrote:Because we have more subs we can have specialist players on the bench, so you don’t need a utility player.
championshipgull wrote:I would have thought that the return to 7 subs would have helped his cause to be honest. A utility player is worth his weight in gold imho, because they make the changing of systems during a match that much easier to implement.
Vincelot's place in the squad as a utility player had more relevance when we had only 5 subs last season, now we have gone back to back to 7 it has not helped him keep the place.
Always liked what I saw of Vincelot, and really hope that Gus takes him back for a purposeful reason.
WiseOldSeagull
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7:55pm Tue 30 Oct 12
My opinion is that GP is trying to play a purist style of football with the players available within the budget and it isn't always going to work. Barca can play this way due to the personnel available but unfortunately we do not have that luxury.
We can therefore expect ups and downs until the required personnel are within our reach. For GP's style of football to succeed at the highest level we require a budget far superior to the one we have.
We are competitive this season again but if we can go that extra mile into the playoffs remains to be seen.
championshipgull
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8:00pm Tue 30 Oct 12
PittaPatta wrote:Pitta patta. I hope I didn’t sound critical, your views are bona fide IMHO
championshipgull wrote:A utility player IS a specialist player in my book.
PittaPatta wrote:Because we have more subs we can have specialist players on the bench, so you don’t need a utility player.
championshipgull wrote:I would have thought that the return to 7 subs would have helped his cause to be honest. A utility player is worth his weight in gold imho, because they make the changing of systems during a match that much easier to implement.
Vincelot's place in the squad as a utility player had more relevance when we had only 5 subs last season, now we have gone back to back to 7 it has not helped him keep the place.
Always liked what I saw of Vincelot, and really hope that Gus takes him back for a purposeful reason.
Cabin fever
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8:30pm Tue 30 Oct 12
They should send Tony their CVs...
IRISHGULL
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9:00pm Tue 30 Oct 12
from what i saw of vincelot last season there are two current first teamers
from what i saw of this guy, there are two current first teamers, that i would replace with him. Think he may have been abit exposed by the better quality wide men. But it seems fullback is not his preferred position. But one thing for sure we are crying out for a goal scoring midfielder.
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PittaPatta
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9:11pm Tue 30 Oct 12
championshipgull wrote:I appreciate all your comments championshipgull, they make for interesting debate imho. Far from sounding critical, you were expressing your opinions, which is the reason for this site being as it is.
PittaPatta wrote:Pitta patta. I hope I didn’t sound critical, your views are bona fide IMHO
championshipgull wrote:A utility player IS a specialist player in my book.
PittaPatta wrote:Because we have more subs we can have specialist players on the bench, so you don’t need a utility player.
championshipgull wrote:I would have thought that the return to 7 subs would have helped his cause to be honest. A utility player is worth his weight in gold imho, because they make the changing of systems during a match that much easier to implement.
Vincelot's place in the squad as a utility player had more relevance when we had only 5 subs last season, now we have gone back to back to 7 it has not helped him keep the place.
Always liked what I saw of Vincelot, and really hope that Gus takes him back for a purposeful reason.
Hoping that you will have to change your epithet to premierleaguegull before very long.
IRISHGULL
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9:11pm Tue 30 Oct 12
Dr Baldhead
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9:24pm Tue 30 Oct 12
Warren Aspinall on Saturday's commentary was saying that Hoskins neded up to 8 reserve games before being eligible for the matchday squad. A quite ridiculous comment. That said, they played a sound bite from the prematch press conference with Oatway and when asked about Hoskins he burbled on about players returning to fitness and being available after Christmas (same for Vincente).
One can but hope....
Hovite
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9:31pm Tue 30 Oct 12
GosportGull
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9:47pm Tue 30 Oct 12
tug509
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10:08pm Tue 30 Oct 12
Cabin fever
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10:28pm Tue 30 Oct 12
GosportGull wrote:Doing better? Which championship clubs are they playing for again?
A bit bizarre but our on loan players are doing better than the ones at the club ... Hmm ... I always liked Vincelot and still do ... an attacking midfield player ...dont we have another one of those at Oxford on loan ? I am starting to worry about Gus and some of his decsions and comments just recently ... The "Boring" comment , his tactics , player selections...Hope he can turn it around ..As for Friday night , i dont think i want to watch ! GG
If you don't think you can watch, then don't.
Jonathan Mouette
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5:26am Wed 31 Oct 12
tug509
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8:44am Wed 31 Oct 12
Jonathan Mouette wrote:Yep JM,a perfect example of,it would be funny if it were not true!!.UTA
I remember recently reading that we should plough through the lower leagues for new talent and, in particular, a striker (sorry Romain - going a tad off the thread subject for a second). Last night I saw a 6ft striker from Swindon score 2 goals against Aston Villa. The 1st was good, the 2nd was sublime. His 3rd in 2 games. How about getting him in on loan, that's if DiCanio would release him. Maybe we could buy...? His name is Miles Storey and he's 18. That means he could spend 2 or 3 years in the development squad learning how to score against clubs like Villa... oops, I forgot - he knows how to do that already.
wiseman of hove
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9:58am Wed 31 Oct 12
Jonathan Mouette wrote:Very pleased you noticed my post last week. I would hope that even before last nights game, he would have been under review Perhaps one of the Albion's 'scouts' could go and watch him in a Swindon away game and see how he performs effort wise towards the end of a game.
I remember recently reading that we should plough through the lower leagues for new talent and, in particular, a striker (sorry Romain - going a tad off the thread subject for a second). Last night I saw a 6ft striker from Swindon score 2 goals against Aston Villa. The 1st was good, the 2nd was sublime. His 3rd in 2 games. How about getting him in on loan, that's if DiCanio would release him. Maybe we could buy...? His name is Miles Storey and he's 18. That means he could spend 2 or 3 years in the development squad learning how to score against clubs like Villa... oops, I forgot - he knows how to do that already.
the taffster
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10:27am Wed 31 Oct 12
mikeygit
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1:36pm Wed 31 Oct 12
pte
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2:09pm Wed 31 Oct 12
From his point of view, his best bet would be a move even if it is only to the Gills. From there, like Crofts he can move on.
Gus can back pedal all he likes but we already have a surplus of midfielders, so Romaine has to base his decision on past managerial decisions not on any sweet talk Gus now whispers in his ear
Jonathan Mouette
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2:23pm Wed 31 Oct 12
pte wrote:It's called Man-Management... or, in this case, total lack of it...! Oh well, never mind, in the eyes of many he is totally irreproachable and can never put a foot wrong... maybe they're right - fingers crossed...
The Gills are playing Romaine in midfield and thats the position he favours. From what he says he's quite happy to stay at the club in that favoured role and he's given up on the Albion now as an option to develop his career.
From his point of view, his best bet would be a move even if it is only to the Gills. From there, like Crofts he can move on.
Gus can back pedal all he likes but we already have a surplus of midfielders, so Romaine has to base his decision on past managerial decisions not on any sweet talk Gus now whispers in his ear
PS pte, it's Romain without the e on the end (makes it a girl's name!). Sorry.
CAKEBEARD
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4:00pm Wed 31 Oct 12
thruball
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4:16pm Wed 31 Oct 12
No way back for RV. Au revoir et merci, monsieur.
pte
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4:55pm Wed 31 Oct 12
CAKEBEARD wrote:Yes but he's OUR pratt.
I'm fast coming to the realisation that Gus is a bit of a prat, I think I've always known it but hey he's our manager so ive kept quiet until now. Not one Albion fan I know of had anything but praise for Vincelot and no Albion fan I know of could understand why Gus left him out in the cold.
You have to remember most football managers once you get to know them are pratts.
It just takes time to suss them out behind the smiles and the BS.
Can you think of any that arent pratts? Even Fergie can be a bit of a pratt
Captain Haddock
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3:08pm Thu 1 Nov 12
pte wrote:EVEN Fergie....surely you mean ESPECIALLY Fergie!
CAKEBEARD wrote: I'm fast coming to the realisation that Gus is a bit of a prat, I think I've always known it but hey he's our manager so ive kept quiet until now. Not one Albion fan I know of had anything but praise for Vincelot and no Albion fan I know of could understand why Gus left him out in the cold.Yes but he's OUR pratt. You have to remember most football managers once you get to know them are pratts. It just takes time to suss them out behind the smiles and the BS. Can you think of any that arent pratts? Even Fergie can be a bit of a pratt
dave from bexill says...
5:39pm Tue 30 Oct 12