Poyet: We showed belief (From The Argus)

Not only will the, 'people,' be saying different things our Gus is too, so different from last week.

Hi Vegas, I told you yesterday that Gus would be purring. And so am I. The play-offs or better beckons. Six points from our next two home games and then Palace beware.

Lets face it we are just a top striker away from the prem league.Barnes should have put both those chances away today,it could have cost us big time.I hate to say it was Murray that guy.

Freeloaders wrote:
Lets face it we are just a top striker away from the prem league.Barnes should have put both those chances away today,it could have cost us big time.I hate to say it was Murray that guy.

We should never have got rid of Bobby Zamora. Or Peter Ward for that matter. And what hell happened to Fred Binney? I can't believe we let him go.

Freeloaders wrote:
Lets face it we are just a top striker away from the prem league.Barnes should have put both those chances away today,it could have cost us big time.I hate to say it was Murray that guy.

Even if Murray was "that guy" I'm not sure he still plays for us? or have I missed something?, I wish people would mention important things like that a bit more often....What?!! Van Persie has gone to Man U too, phew I must keep up....
well done Buckers and all the current Albion players....

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

Freeloaders wrote:
Lets face it we are just a top striker away from the prem league.Barnes should have put both those chances away today,it could have cost us big time.I hate to say it was Murray that guy.

We should never have got rid of Bobby Zamora. Or Peter Ward for that matter. And what hell happened to Fred Binney? I can't believe we let him go.

...and Ken Beamish!!!

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

Freeloaders wrote: Lets face it we are just a top striker away from the prem league.Barnes should have put both those chances away today,it could have cost us big time.I hate to say it was Murray that guy.

We should never have got rid of Bobby Zamora. Or Peter Ward for that matter. And what hell happened to Fred Binney? I can't believe we let him go.

Oh do behave.

Must say results have not matched performances, if we had taken a decent percentage of chances this season we would be top two.
We need to ramp it up at the Amex, fans were dead against posh, we need to lift the side.

Could it be that we have the answer to our problems up front; I really do believe that Hoskins is a much better player than people give him credit for. Just give him a run in the side and we will find out. It also proves that Buckley has to play as many games as possible.Do hope Tomo is fit next week as Brezovan has not changed and is still a liability. Painter a surprising success today. lets hope it continues. Onward and upward

Freeloaders wrote:
Lets face it we are just a top striker away from the prem league.Barnes should have put both those chances away today,it could have cost us big time.I hate to say it was Murray that guy.

Go away with your negative attitude, it's not wanted. A win is a win.

I can't believe we just won and you lot are still rattling on about Glenn Murray. Please move on it so boring redding the same crap from the same people.

According to the radio commentary Hoskins was excellent when he came on for cms, Dobbie didn't get on which is surprising, both are better than Barnes and must start ahead of him against Bolton.

mark by the sea wrote:
Must say results have not matched performances, if we had taken a decent percentage of chances this season we would be top two.
We need to ramp it up at the Amex, fans were dead against posh, we need to lift the side.

Yes indeed. I was at the Peterborough Game and couldn't beleive how quiet the fans were (except the North Stand). It works like this: GET BEHIND YOUR TEAM!

Two home games now and if we get six points from them,it will set us up nicely for our little raids into South London with a huge following for both. Lets have two sell outs and set about our rivals as we did against Leeds. UTA

Good result, good performance all round. A lot of positive comments about Will Hoskins, particularly his ability to hold the ball and set up other players. Would love to see him start alongside Will B and Stephen D in the next two home games. Hopefully Gus will realise that scoring an early goal changes opponents tactics, forcing them to come out of their shell and leaving more gaps at the back for us to exploit. Will B is a treasure, so much pace, he's the ideal player to capitalise on space. I so much hope we can keep him.

Alfie T wrote:
According to the radio commentary Hoskins was excellent when he came on for cms, Dobbie didn't get on which is surprising, both are better than Barnes and must start ahead of him against Bolton.

It would be surprising if Dobbie and Hoskins did not feature significantly against Bolton and beyond. I think they will both deliver goals and in particular, I would think Barnes is now under pressure for his place. Healthy competition and some interesting options now emerging for the manager.

Alistair wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:
Must say results have not matched performances, if we had taken a decent percentage of chances this season we would be top two.
We need to ramp it up at the Amex, fans were dead against posh, we need to lift the side.

Yes indeed. I was at the Peterborough Game and couldn't beleive how quiet the fans were (except the North Stand). It works like this: GET BEHIND YOUR TEAM!

Yeah, for the first time at the Amex, the crowd reminded me of the dark days of withdean, this is our club, we can make the difference... Get behind them

The reason Murray has scored so many goals, is that nearly half of them have been penalties. CMS has scored as many from open play. I doubt whether Murray would have scored as many for us if he had still been here. Having said that, with the right service he's a bit of a "Grant Holt" type player, so I think he will be OK in the Premiership for a year or two if they get there, and with Ian Holloway in
charge they've got every chance.

We have to move on and stop moaning about him being given away -it is pointless, negative stuff. Watford could say the same about Will Buckley - who was sold to us at £9m less than his true value!!! At his age, Murray's value will never be more than £3m - so we are at least £6m up. Add the £1.4m profit from Elliott Bennett, £700k profit from Craig Noone, and possibly £1.5m profit from CMS if Norwich buy him in January, then we are £10m in credit.
Adam El-Abd must be worth at least £2m, and Kuszak, Bridcutt and Dunk, at least £1m - so we are £15m in credit.

Gus will probably bring in someone like Tom Pope of Port Vale in January, and with Hoskins and Dobbie starting to show some form we could start to get on a winning run.

The Palace bubble will burst at some point (hopefully against us!) especially if Zaha goes to one of say Chelsea, Man-Utd, Arsenal or Man-City.

The Championship top 6 race is going to be "white" hot after Christmas, and I think we could be in there.

In Gus we trust!

Vince wrote:
The reason Murray has scored so many goals, is that nearly half of them have been penalties. CMS has scored as many from open play. I doubt whether Murray would have scored as many for us if he had still been here. Having said that, with the right service he's a bit of a "Grant Holt" type player, so I think he will be OK in the Premiership for a year or two if they get there, and with Ian Holloway in
charge they've got every chance.

We have to move on and stop moaning about him being given away -it is pointless, negative stuff. Watford could say the same about Will Buckley - who was sold to us at £9m less than his true value!!! At his age, Murray's value will never be more than £3m - so we are at least £6m up. Add the £1.4m profit from Elliott Bennett, £700k profit from Craig Noone, and possibly £1.5m profit from CMS if Norwich buy him in January, then we are £10m in credit.
Adam El-Abd must be worth at least £2m, and Kuszak, Bridcutt and Dunk, at least £1m - so we are £15m in credit.

Gus will probably bring in someone like Tom Pope of Port Vale in January, and with Hoskins and Dobbie starting to show some form we could start to get on a winning run.

The Palace bubble will burst at some point (hopefully against us!) especially if Zaha goes to one of say Chelsea, Man-Utd, Arsenal or Man-City.

The Championship top 6 race is going to be "white" hot after Christmas, and I think we could be in there.

In Gus we trust!

Great post, the table means nothing even now, palace will have a poor. Run.. We are about to hit form..

Vince wrote:
The reason Murray has scored so many goals, is that nearly half of them have been penalties. CMS has scored as many from open play. I doubt whether Murray would have scored as many for us if he had still been here. Having said that, with the right service he's a bit of a "Grant Holt" type player, so I think he will be OK in the Premiership for a year or two if they get there, and with Ian Holloway in
charge they've got every chance.

We have to move on and stop moaning about him being given away -it is pointless, negative stuff. Watford could say the same about Will Buckley - who was sold to us at £9m less than his true value!!! At his age, Murray's value will never be more than £3m - so we are at least £6m up. Add the £1.4m profit from Elliott Bennett, £700k profit from Craig Noone, and possibly £1.5m profit from CMS if Norwich buy him in January, then we are £10m in credit.
Adam El-Abd must be worth at least £2m, and Kuszak, Bridcutt and Dunk, at least £1m - so we are £15m in credit.

Gus will probably bring in someone like Tom Pope of Port Vale in January, and with Hoskins and Dobbie starting to show some form we could start to get on a winning run.

The Palace bubble will burst at some point (hopefully against us!) especially if Zaha goes to one of say Chelsea, Man-Utd, Arsenal or Man-City.

The Championship top 6 race is going to be "white" hot after Christmas, and I think we could be in there.

In Gus we trust!

Cracking post!

Orlandi was outstanding today. So composed on the ball. Team built well and patiently from the back. Brez unfortunately was Mr Flappypants throughout. Luckily he wasn't put under a lot of pressure. Huddersfield very poor. Encouraging result with a lot of the 'B' team playing.

BHArulz wrote:

Freeloaders wrote:
Lets face it we are just a top striker away from the prem league.Barnes should have put both those chances away today,it could have cost us big time.I hate to say it was Murray that guy.

Go away with your negative attitude, it's not wanted. A win is a win.

I didn't think i was being negative.Im just pointing out we are one good striker away from the prem league.You can't hide the fact Barnes needs to be putting those chances away.

BHArulz wrote:

Freeloaders wrote:
Lets face it we are just a top striker away from the prem league.Barnes should have put both those chances away today,it could have cost us big time.I hate to say it was Murray that guy.

Go away with your negative attitude, it's not wanted. A win is a win.

I didn't think i was being negative.Im just pointing out we are one good striker away from the prem league.You can't hide the fact Barnes needs to be putting those chances away.

BHArulz wrote:

Freeloaders wrote:
Lets face it we are just a top striker away from the prem league.Barnes should have put both those chances away today,it could have cost us big time.I hate to say it was Murray that guy.

Go away with your negative attitude, it's not wanted. A win is a win.

I didn't think i was being negative.Im just pointing out we are one good striker away from the prem league.You can't hide the fact Barnes needs to be putting those chances away.

Not so sure on some of your valuations Vince and I doubt that we will sell anywhere near the number of players that some might think.
At best/worse, I can see maybe three moving on and if my three did then I think we might end up with 14.5 million from those sales.

Sorry not going to name my three but maybe the total sum might give you a clue.

How did Gordon do today? Bruno? Hammond?

Vince good post. But why are some almost obsessed with who we might sell in january? Firstly if and still a big ,if, granted, but lets be positive we are in the hunt for promotion i bet cms( who has lives near me and has just bought his house! Not rented!) And buckers might not want to leave to say a norwich or even villa as even if money on offer better than us just now may not be the case if we are promoted and in fact they could end up in a relegation battle. In a nutshell unless a big money offer from a top 10 prem side may not be worth jumping ship till end of season.??

After such a great result,it is a little depressing to hear some of you guys speaking of departures,we are only 17 games in!!. Vince whilst your post is as always informative and balanced.....Why bloody why,do some insist on pizzing all over a good day?. We have just beaten a good team on their own turf,and instead of wallowing in glory for the rest of the week,some are selling our goalscorer,after 17 games,talk like this is not good for anyone,except our next opponent.Some of the comments here today,do the job for others.Please remember,this is NEW Albion,not shy little stand at the back albion treading water,you play us on the same terms now,and we will beat you.Talk of selling our stars after such a short time is to me at least,defeatest, pessimistic and ridiculous.Enjoy the win and look to the next!!..UTA

weststandupperlacost
earmy wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

Freeloaders wrote:
Lets face it we are just a top striker away from the prem league.Barnes should have put both those chances away today,it could have cost us big time.I hate to say it was Murray that guy.

We should never have got rid of Bobby Zamora. Or Peter Ward for that matter. And what hell happened to Fred Binney? I can't believe we let him go.

...and Ken Beamish!!!

Bring back Teddy Maybank!

I think there may be some noses slightly out of joint come next match. If WH doesn't start up front alongside CMS with WB and AO in support then I will be very surprised. Just the sight of that selection should terrify most opposition defences. However I have come to realise that I watch an entirely different game to those who actually select the team... and also to being surprised - so I guess nothing will change. I must ask however why the quest for another striker continues if Gus has no intention of playing two together; for me the idea of WH and CMS is mouthwatering... Der! Oh well, great result, fingers crossed for the next one...!

Good win . Jm I think you and I watch similar games . WH up front with cms would be great to see but today again proved what a fit will Buckley can do and have thought all along he could be our secret striker negating the need to get another acquisition to add to our already big squad many of whom ,who unless we get a massive number of injuries( god forbid) will never get on the bench let alone a start . Question to ponder for the week everyone. Who would be (may be should) our keeper in the event Brezovan gets injured on coach hm and Tomas and kasper still not fit??

Frankly I don't give a rat's **** about what Palace are doing. All I care about is what our team does and the performance of our players. Time to run out Hoskins and CMS together me thinks

mr punch wrote:

weststandupperlacost

earmy wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

Freeloaders wrote:
Lets face it we are just a top striker away from the prem league.Barnes should have put both those chances away today,it could have cost us big time.I hate to say it was Murray that guy.

We should never have got rid of Bobby Zamora. Or Peter Ward for that matter. And what hell happened to Fred Binney? I can't believe we let him go.

...and Ken Beamish!!!

Bring back Teddy Maybank!

Now you really are having a laugh..!

The goals are coming again and confidence and belief will grow with this sort of result. The next couple of matches will be very interesting. Good stuff if they can maintain the trend.

tug509 wrote:
After such a great result,it is a little depressing to hear some of you guys speaking of departures,we are only 17 games in!!. Vince whilst your post is as always informative and balanced.....Why bloody why,do some insist on pizzing all over a good day?. We have just beaten a good team on their own turf,and instead of wallowing in glory for the rest of the week,some are selling our goalscorer,after 17 games,talk like this is not good for anyone,except our next opponent.Some of the comments here today,do the job for others.Please remember,this is NEW Albion,not shy little stand at the back albion treading water,you play us on the same terms now,and we will beat you.Talk of selling our stars after such a short time is to me at least,defeatest, pessimistic and ridiculous.Enjoy the win and look to the next!!..UTA

Well said tug

Teddy Maybank eh!!! Remember him in the Alan Mullery days--also remember him scoring a hat trick--against who I cannot remember---but that was rare. Depended upon how many drinks he had had the night before---Gus would have had his work cut out managing him, and a few others---Golden Days, but I feel we are entering into another, but different, Golden era. Think positive guys--not who we may sell, players should be playing so well they do not WANT to leave. Yes there will be changes as it is obvious we will not be able to hold on to Wayne Bridge---could not afford his wages!! But one man does not make a team. UTA

mr punch wrote:

weststandupperlacost

earmy wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

Freeloaders wrote:
Lets face it we are just a top striker away from the prem league.Barnes should have put both those chances away today,it could have cost us big time.I hate to say it was Murray that guy.

We should never have got rid of Bobby Zamora. Or Peter Ward for that matter. And what hell happened to Fred Binney? I can't believe we let him go.

...and Ken Beamish!!!

Bring back Teddy Maybank!

Bring back Vicente! That is funny!,

mikeygit wrote:
Teddy Maybank eh!!! Remember him in the Alan Mullery days--also remember him scoring a hat trick--against who I cannot remember---but that was rare. Depended upon how many drinks he had had the night before---Gus would have had his work cut out managing him, and a few others---Golden Days, but I feel we are entering into another, but different, Golden era. Think positive guys--not who we may sell, players should be playing so well they do not WANT to leave. Yes there will be changes as it is obvious we will not be able to hold on to Wayne Bridge---could not afford his wages!! But one man does not make a team. UTA

Teddy is living in blatchington road, I recently saw photo of him from his Fulham days.. That was a team! Not sure how he got a game, good looking guy, shame what KFC does to a man!

Ah, a win at last is like a breath of fresh air! Keep it up Gus.

mark by the sea wrote:

mikeygit wrote:
Teddy Maybank eh!!! Remember him in the Alan Mullery days--also remember him scoring a hat trick--against who I cannot remember---but that was rare. Depended upon how many drinks he had had the night before---Gus would have had his work cut out managing him, and a few others---Golden Days, but I feel we are entering into another, but different, Golden era. Think positive guys--not who we may sell, players should be playing so well they do not WANT to leave. Yes there will be changes as it is obvious we will not be able to hold on to Wayne Bridge---could not afford his wages!! But one man does not make a team. UTA

Teddy is living in blatchington road, I recently saw photo of him from his Fulham days.. That was a team! Not sure how he got a game, good looking guy, shame what KFC does to a man!

Works in the flooring business these days, won the weakest link, so not your usual bonehead footballer.

Kings club Maybank. What a waste of £900,000. A lot of money in those days!! Hard as nails or was it the drink!

Gus has shown that he doesn't like to change a winning team, and why would he, any reason why he wouldn't start the next match with the same out field players?

Hoskins or Dobbie for Barnes might be one change he would make but given his previous decisions Barnes looks safe.

Painter had a good game, according to reports, but I guess Bridge is a shoe in if fit.

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

mr punch wrote:

weststandupperlacost


earmy wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

Freeloaders wrote:
Lets face it we are just a top striker away from the prem league.Barnes should have put both those chances away today,it could have cost us big time.I hate to say it was Murray that guy.

We should never have got rid of Bobby Zamora. Or Peter Ward for that matter. And what hell happened to Fred Binney? I can't believe we let him go.

...and Ken Beamish!!!

Bring back Teddy Maybank!

Now you really are having a laugh..!

Yes Willie, I was havin a laugh! I remember being at the dogs one night and Teddy was there and I asked for his autograph (I was about 16). He signed my race card nd I thought he was a bit strange until my Dad pointed out that he had had a few too many.

Good start by Albion on Saturday, Huddersfield were perhaps not allowed to be at their best by Gus' men. Although we did suffer the (normal) last few minutes of panic.
Marcos Painter did well despite getting 'clocked' in the face a couple of times.
With his confidence up, I was surprised Will Buckley did not score his third when one on one with their keeper in the second half. But can't fault the guy for his match performance.
Very encouraging to see 'Hosko' get 30 odd minutes, the fans are really willing him to get into the side now he is fit. He needs a goal.
Mark is right, the Amex crowd need to be as proportionally loud as the away fans were at Huddersfield to push our lads to two home wins.
Come On! UTA

mark by the sea wrote:

mikeygit wrote:
Teddy Maybank eh!!! Remember him in the Alan Mullery days--also remember him scoring a hat trick--against who I cannot remember---but that was rare. Depended upon how many drinks he had had the night before---Gus would have had his work cut out managing him, and a few others---Golden Days, but I feel we are entering into another, but different, Golden era. Think positive guys--not who we may sell, players should be playing so well they do not WANT to leave. Yes there will be changes as it is obvious we will not be able to hold on to Wayne Bridge---could not afford his wages!! But one man does not make a team. UTA

Teddy is living in blatchington road, I recently saw photo of him from his Fulham days.. That was a team! Not sure how he got a game, good looking guy, shame what KFC does to a man!

...its not the KFC, its the ten pints before it !!!

weststandupperlacost
earmy wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:

mikeygit wrote:
Teddy Maybank eh!!! Remember him in the Alan Mullery days--also remember him scoring a hat trick--against who I cannot remember---but that was rare. Depended upon how many drinks he had had the night before---Gus would have had his work cut out managing him, and a few others---Golden Days, but I feel we are entering into another, but different, Golden era. Think positive guys--not who we may sell, players should be playing so well they do not WANT to leave. Yes there will be changes as it is obvious we will not be able to hold on to Wayne Bridge---could not afford his wages!! But one man does not make a team. UTA

Teddy is living in blatchington road, I recently saw photo of him from his Fulham days.. That was a team! Not sure how he got a game, good looking guy, shame what KFC does to a man!

...its not the KFC, its the ten pints before it !!!

He used to live in Cromwell road,my mate had a crush on his misses,he still mentions it from time to time..UTA

Unfortunately Ted had a crush on everybody elses Mrs as well!

Alfie T wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:

mikeygit wrote:
Teddy Maybank eh!!! Remember him in the Alan Mullery days--also remember him scoring a hat trick--against who I cannot remember---but that was rare. Depended upon how many drinks he had had the night before---Gus would have had his work cut out managing him, and a few others---Golden Days, but I feel we are entering into another, but different, Golden era. Think positive guys--not who we may sell, players should be playing so well they do not WANT to leave. Yes there will be changes as it is obvious we will not be able to hold on to Wayne Bridge---could not afford his wages!! But one man does not make a team. UTA

Teddy is living in blatchington road, I recently saw photo of him from his Fulham days.. That was a team! Not sure how he got a game, good looking guy, shame what KFC does to a man!

Works in the flooring business these days, won the weakest link, so not your usual bonehead footballer.

As I recall he appeared on Blind Date after leaving Albion. He forgot to mention he was married, though...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:

mikeygit wrote:
Teddy Maybank eh!!! Remember him in the Alan Mullery days--also remember him scoring a hat trick--against who I cannot remember---but that was rare. Depended upon how many drinks he had had the night before---Gus would have had his work cut out managing him, and a few others---Golden Days, but I feel we are entering into another, but different, Golden era. Think positive guys--not who we may sell, players should be playing so well they do not WANT to leave. Yes there will be changes as it is obvious we will not be able to hold on to Wayne Bridge---could not afford his wages!! But one man does not make a team. UTA

Teddy is living in blatchington road, I recently saw photo of him from his Fulham days.. That was a team! Not sure how he got a game, good looking guy, shame what KFC does to a man!

Works in the flooring business these days, won the weakest link, so not your usual bonehead footballer.

As I recall he appeared on Blind Date after leaving Albion. He forgot to mention he was married, though...

He never mentioned it to a lot of women!
I saw him other day at JJB , trying on jimmy saville track suit, they had all sizes in jackets, but you had to fit into a kids. Bottom.

mark by the sea wrote:

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:

mikeygit wrote: Teddy Maybank eh!!! Remember him in the Alan Mullery days--also remember him scoring a hat trick--against who I cannot remember---but that was rare. Depended upon how many drinks he had had the night before---Gus would have had his work cut out managing him, and a few others---Golden Days, but I feel we are entering into another, but different, Golden era. Think positive guys--not who we may sell, players should be playing so well they do not WANT to leave. Yes there will be changes as it is obvious we will not be able to hold on to Wayne Bridge---could not afford his wages!! But one man does not make a team. UTA

Teddy is living in blatchington road, I recently saw photo of him from his Fulham days.. That was a team! Not sure how he got a game, good looking guy, shame what KFC does to a man!

Works in the flooring business these days, won the weakest link, so not your usual bonehead footballer.

As I recall he appeared on Blind Date after leaving Albion. He forgot to mention he was married, though...

He never mentioned it to a lot of women! I saw him other day at JJB , trying on jimmy saville track suit, they had all sizes in jackets, but you had to fit into a kids. Bottom.

so wrong...............
...... but vey funny

tug509 wrote:
After such a great result,it is a little depressing to hear some of you guys speaking of departures,we are only 17 games in!!. Vince whilst your post is as always informative and balanced.....Why bloody why,do some insist on pizzing all over a good day?. We have just beaten a good team on their own turf,and instead of wallowing in glory for the rest of the week,some are selling our goalscorer,after 17 games,talk like this is not good for anyone,except our next opponent.Some of the comments here today,do the job for others.Please remember,this is NEW Albion,not shy little stand at the back albion treading water,you play us on the same terms now,and we will beat you.Talk of selling our stars after such a short time is to me at least,defeatest, pessimistic and ridiculous.Enjoy the win and look to the next!!..UTA

You are absolutely right! I was really trying to get a positive slant on things, because people keep banging on about "if only we had Murray" blah blah which is boring negative stuff. I don't think that Gus will sell anyone of the existing players I mentioned, although CMS probably only has 3 or 4 good years ahead of him, so that if say a £5M bid did come in from a team like Norwich, Gus would probably not want to hold him back, if he was desperate to go.

The main point of my post was to say that, on current value, our players are worth a huge amount more than we paid for them. We have a huge amount to be delighted about. Therefore, being over-despondent about a player like Murray, (who although he is skilfull and has a presence about him in the penalty area, lacks pace and probably quite near the end of his career), is a pointless waste of time. Murray has been successful at Palace because he suits their style of play and thrives on feeding off a constant supply of crosses. At the Albion he would have been expected to get through a lot more work often working in isolation up front. I don't think that would have suited him (or for that matter, Chris Wood of Millwall who needs others around him).

Some M/Bs have been saying they would like to see Hoskins and CMS up front together. I don't think this would work. I see Hoskins as a deep-lying forward who will play in the likes of CMS and Buckley. It was clear from the radio commentary that Hoskins linked up brilliantly with Buckley, and gave him a gilt-edged chance for a hat trick. As someone said above, Buckley could be the other striker we need, like Aluko of Hull, who uses pace and skill to outpace defences. Hoskins has the brain, close control and know how to play in strikers like CMS and Buckley.

I would substitute Dobbie for Barnes and always play Orlandi (with Hammond /Crofts as sub)

My team for Saturday if all fit would be

Kuszac
Bridge El Abd Greer Bruno
Bridcutt
Barnes(Dobbie) Orlandi Hoskins
CMS Buckley

Vince wrote:

tug509 wrote:
After such a great result,it is a little depressing to hear some of you guys speaking of departures,we are only 17 games in!!. Vince whilst your post is as always informative and balanced.....Why bloody why,do some insist on pizzing all over a good day?. We have just beaten a good team on their own turf,and instead of wallowing in glory for the rest of the week,some are selling our goalscorer,after 17 games,talk like this is not good for anyone,except our next opponent.Some of the comments here today,do the job for others.Please remember,this is NEW Albion,not shy little stand at the back albion treading water,you play us on the same terms now,and we will beat you.Talk of selling our stars after such a short time is to me at least,defeatest, pessimistic and ridiculous.Enjoy the win and look to the next!!..UTA

You are absolutely right! I was really trying to get a positive slant on things, because people keep banging on about "if only we had Murray" blah blah which is boring negative stuff. I don't think that Gus will sell anyone of the existing players I mentioned, although CMS probably only has 3 or 4 good years ahead of him, so that if say a £5M bid did come in from a team like Norwich, Gus would probably not want to hold him back, if he was desperate to go.

The main point of my post was to say that, on current value, our players are worth a huge amount more than we paid for them. We have a huge amount to be delighted about. Therefore, being over-despondent about a player like Murray, (who although he is skilfull and has a presence about him in the penalty area, lacks pace and probably quite near the end of his career), is a pointless waste of time. Murray has been successful at Palace because he suits their style of play and thrives on feeding off a constant supply of crosses. At the Albion he would have been expected to get through a lot more work often working in isolation up front. I don't think that would have suited him (or for that matter, Chris Wood of Millwall who needs others around him).

Some M/Bs have been saying they would like to see Hoskins and CMS up front together. I don't think this would work. I see Hoskins as a deep-lying forward who will play in the likes of CMS and Buckley. It was clear from the radio commentary that Hoskins linked up brilliantly with Buckley, and gave him a gilt-edged chance for a hat trick. As someone said above, Buckley could be the other striker we need, like Aluko of Hull, who uses pace and skill to outpace defences. Hoskins has the brain, close control and know how to play in strikers like CMS and Buckley.

I would substitute Dobbie for Barnes and always play Orlandi (with Hammond /Crofts as sub)

My team for Saturday if all fit would be

Kuszac
Bridge El Abd Greer Bruno
Bridcutt
Barnes(Dobbie) Orlandi Hoskins
CMS Buckley

That side is too attacking, Hammond does what Barnes does , he brings bits and players together . Your side is great going forward, but would never keep ball under pressure.
Any news on Vicente? He would change things.

You say with my selection we wouldn't keep the ball under pressure - but think about the players - Orlandi, Hoskins and Buckley. They all hold the ball up well, and would be well supported on the flanks by Bridge and Bruno who are also good at keeping the ball when going forward. Bridcutt is also hard to shake off the ball when in possession. CMS would be much more in the game, and we would be 3-0 up before we perhaps introduced Hammond to stiffen things up in the midfield. Game over! (like at Huddersfield).

Hoskins and Dobbie - their time has come.

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Lets face it we are just a top striker away from the prem league.Barnes should have put both those chances away today,it could have cost us big time.I hate to say it was Murray that guy.

You are kidding....right? Not about Murray - that is obvious, but the prem? We would get hammered with the squad we currently have. Not saying there is no quality in our squad - of course not but my money would be on us being in the position Southampton currently find themselves..........
and yes, I am aware they picked up three points on Saturday.

If we all took a dose of reality medicine I think we could then start talking about our squad and the prem division.

If you firstly consider who, come january, want to buy from us. Secondly, who are they offering money for and lastly, how big is the offer, then you know if Brighton have real prem level players.

Southampton are not a prem level team, they are playing for survival so if they came in with an offer for someone it would be like Cardiff or Palace making a bid. Now if Spurs wanted the same player that would be a better assesment of the targeted player.

I doubt that we have more than four players, on contract, that would attract prem teams interest, and thos eprem teams would all be below half way in the table. Dunk might be the exception, he is young and has talent, the type of player Wenger likes to pick up and develope, but that is what he would be, a development squad player.

Fulham, Wigan and maybe even a club like Newcastle, might take a look at CMS and or Buckley but both would be a bit of a gamble, maybe less so in the case of CMS.

Bruno, Bridcutt and Kuzack, all three might draw a little attention. As I said, January will tell us just how many of our squad are good enough for the step up because those that are will draw bids and those that are not won't. I would be surprised to see any of our players go to any prem club that is above 8th from bottom in the prem table come january.