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David on the spot for Albion

The Argus: Ashley Barnes' spot kick is saved against Bolton Ashley Barnes' spot kick is saved against Bolton

GUS Poyet will ask David Lopez to end Albion's penalty horrors – if he is on the pitch.

The manager has axed Ashley Barnes from the role following his second failure out of two this season in the 1-1 draw against Bolton Wanderers at The Amex.

Poyet will now look to Lopez, fellow Spaniard Vicente once he returns from injury or Stephen Dobbie – like Lopez an unused substitute against Bolton – who scored from the spot recently at Wolves.

The players have been left to decide the penalty taker between themselves so far but Poyet could make the decision, depending who is on the pitch, after Barnes was denied early on by Bolton keeper Adam Bogdan both from the spot and the rebound.

Poyet was so disgusted by the third penalty save out of six suffered by the Seagulls this season that he briefly disappeared down the tunnel before returning to see Bruno strike his first league goal for nine years in the second half, only for David Ngog to snatch an equaliser deep into stoppage time for Wanderers.

Poyet told The Argus: “I feel sorry for the next one. Who is going to take the next one? Ashley Barnes is not taking any more. That you can write down. That is my decision.

“David Lopez is excellent at taking penalties but he wasn't on the pitch. The one Dobbs took he scored.

“I don't think it would be fair to a player sitting on the bench if his first touch after coming on was a penalty but maybe the rules can be changed in the future so they can be put on and taken off, like in American football, to take a penalty.

“If it was David Lopez I would (make the decision), if it was Vicente on the pitch I would, because I know the quality they have got to do it. But if you ask me who is the best penalty taker at the club who was on the pitch I don't know.”

Paying The Penalty Ashley Barnes v Leicester: Saved Craig Mackail-Smith v Watford: Scored Craig Mackail-Smith v Leeds: One scored, one saved Stephen Dobbie v Wolves: Scored Ashley Barnes v Bolton: Saved

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9:23am Mon 26 Nov 12

Grendel says...

He may as well say he's going to take them himself as say Vicente will!
He may as well say he's going to take them himself as say Vicente will! Grendel
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9:58am Mon 26 Nov 12

Dr Baldhead says...

Have to say the "if" he's on the pitch is a very big one indeed. I haven't seen anything from Lopez yet which would warrant him getting on the pitch. Of course to be fair, he may simply need a little time to adjust to English football.
Have to say the "if" he's on the pitch is a very big one indeed. I haven't seen anything from Lopez yet which would warrant him getting on the pitch. Of course to be fair, he may simply need a little time to adjust to English football. Dr Baldhead
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9:59am Mon 26 Nov 12

pablobrowno says...

Well Gus if you want Dobs, hoskins or Lopez to take one you'd better start giving them some game time. Think Barnsey may be on the bench tomorrow. Would love.to see Hoskins start and some proper time for Dobs!
Well Gus if you want Dobs, hoskins or Lopez to take one you'd better start giving them some game time. Think Barnsey may be on the bench tomorrow. Would love.to see Hoskins start and some proper time for Dobs! pablobrowno
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10:01am Mon 26 Nov 12

pablobrowno says...

Dr Baldhead wrote:
Have to say the "if" he's on the pitch is a very big one indeed. I haven't seen anything from Lopez yet which would warrant him getting on the pitch. Of course to be fair, he may simply need a little time to adjust to English football.
Disagree re Lopez. He certainly needs match time but I think he is a quality player. Too similar to Buckley though and not as good is his problem I think!!
[quote][p][bold]Dr Baldhead[/bold] wrote: Have to say the "if" he's on the pitch is a very big one indeed. I haven't seen anything from Lopez yet which would warrant him getting on the pitch. Of course to be fair, he may simply need a little time to adjust to English football.[/p][/quote]Disagree re Lopez. He certainly needs match time but I think he is a quality player. Too similar to Buckley though and not as good is his problem I think!! pablobrowno
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10:04am Mon 26 Nov 12

wiseman of hove says...

Might be a good idea to get Vicente fit before we start speculating about him taking penalties. In the meantime, Orlandi?
Might be a good idea to get Vicente fit before we start speculating about him taking penalties. In the meantime, Orlandi? wiseman of hove
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10:09am Mon 26 Nov 12

Bob! says...

Reading between the lines:

Lopez or Dobbie will start in place of Barnes on Tuesday.
Reading between the lines: Lopez or Dobbie will start in place of Barnes on Tuesday. Bob!
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10:34am Mon 26 Nov 12

fairweathersupporter says...

Spanish Dave in for Barnes tomorrow night then (as you say Bob!). Has played on the left before and should 'slot in' as opposed to Dobbie who requires a little more support from the midfield to cover his offensive tendancies.
Hoskins will not play unless CMS drops deeper or Hoskins plays in his place. We do not play two strikers. Barnes does not play a striking role...Gus is stubborn and will not change this and arguably has a point; if you look at the chances created and the way we dominate games. Although i accept the counter is that we can't finish those chances off. Even if the striker we need, that i keep harping on about, arrives in January, this will system will not change.
With the exception of Leicester and possibly another away game that escapes me, we have mainly been the better side this season in all games played. We have been our own worst enemy at home and should be unbeaten. To have this expectation become a (near) reality is nothing short of a miracle. And however frustrated we become, never forget that the tactical system introduced by 'my mate Gus' is largely responsible for the top ten status we currently hold.
We ARE a couple of players short of a genuine assault on the summit (as MBTS has stated). But the system works, with a bit more quality and some minor tweaking we will prevail.
Spanish Dave in for Barnes tomorrow night then (as you say Bob!). Has played on the left before and should 'slot in' as opposed to Dobbie who requires a little more support from the midfield to cover his offensive tendancies. Hoskins will not play unless CMS drops deeper or Hoskins plays in his place. We do not play two strikers. Barnes does not play a striking role...Gus is stubborn and will not change this and arguably has a point; if you look at the chances created and the way we dominate games. Although i accept the counter is that we can't finish those chances off. Even if the striker we need, that i keep harping on about, arrives in January, this will system will not change. With the exception of Leicester and possibly another away game that escapes me, we have mainly been the better side this season in all games played. We have been our own worst enemy at home and should be unbeaten. To have this expectation become a (near) reality is nothing short of a miracle. And however frustrated we become, never forget that the tactical system introduced by 'my mate Gus' is largely responsible for the top ten status we currently hold. We ARE a couple of players short of a genuine assault on the summit (as MBTS has stated). But the system works, with a bit more quality and some minor tweaking we will prevail. fairweathersupporter
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11:27am Mon 26 Nov 12

IKnowNowt says...

What it is to be a lucky team? Just a shame that all our luck, at the moment, is indifferent. Bogdan was the man of the match, in my unbiased opinion, on Saturday. With a small change in luck we would have won 5-1 or 0-1.
That's football.
But what do I know?
What it is to be a lucky team? Just a shame that all our luck, at the moment, is indifferent. Bogdan was the man of the match, in my unbiased opinion, on Saturday. With a small change in luck we would have won 5-1 or 0-1. That's football. But what do I know? IKnowNowt
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11:45am Mon 26 Nov 12

fratsomrover says...

What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.
What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties. fratsomrover
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11:55am Mon 26 Nov 12

wiseman of hove says...

fratsomrover wrote:
What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.
Total agreement with all your comments.
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.[/p][/quote]Total agreement with all your comments. wiseman of hove
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11:58am Mon 26 Nov 12

Gee Jay says...

If this is David Lopez' chance, let's hope he takes it and proves he is a better option than Ashley.
Will Hoskins needs at least 25 minutes on the pitch to give him time to prove himself, as he did at Huddersfield. Perhaps with another game on Saturday, Gus will give him this time and give CMS just 60 minutes or so.
CMS still gives his all and chases everything.....we still love the guy.
If this is David Lopez' chance, let's hope he takes it and proves he is a better option than Ashley. Will Hoskins needs at least 25 minutes on the pitch to give him time to prove himself, as he did at Huddersfield. Perhaps with another game on Saturday, Gus will give him this time and give CMS just 60 minutes or so. CMS still gives his all and chases everything.....we still love the guy. Gee Jay
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12:18pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Vince says...

Gus is an enigma. He produces teams who play better football than any other team most fans have ever seen, but he is consistently frustrating fans with his refusal to use the quality attacking players at his disposal - because of his "head in the sand" insistence on playing only one striker. When he does "go for the jugular" so to speak it's usually with 5 or 10 minutes left - usually too late to make a massve difference to the result.

One successful Championship manager said he adapts his tactics to suit the players at his disposal. Gus does the opposite trying to get players to fit his system - with the result that he is forced to try and fit square pegs into round holes - hence his constant frustration at the lack of quality at his disposal!!! Hoskins and Dobbie are quality - but he won't play them. Barnes is not quality - but does lots of things Gus likes. Who is the winner? Certainly not the team when Barnes fails to deliver. Certainly not the fans - who would love to see Gus break free from his self-imposed shackles and play 2 strikers.

Ah well! C'est la vie!
Gus is an enigma. He produces teams who play better football than any other team most fans have ever seen, but he is consistently frustrating fans with his refusal to use the quality attacking players at his disposal - because of his "head in the sand" insistence on playing only one striker. When he does "go for the jugular" so to speak it's usually with 5 or 10 minutes left - usually too late to make a massve difference to the result. One successful Championship manager said he adapts his tactics to suit the players at his disposal. Gus does the opposite trying to get players to fit his system - with the result that he is forced to try and fit square pegs into round holes - hence his constant frustration at the lack of quality at his disposal!!! Hoskins and Dobbie are quality - but he won't play them. Barnes is not quality - but does lots of things Gus likes. Who is the winner? Certainly not the team when Barnes fails to deliver. Certainly not the fans - who would love to see Gus break free from his self-imposed shackles and play 2 strikers. Ah well! C'est la vie! Vince
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12:23pm Mon 26 Nov 12

fairweathersupporter says...

wiseman of hove wrote:
fratsomrover wrote: What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.
Total agreement with all your comments.
If life was so simple and all were so wise...
[quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.[/p][/quote]Total agreement with all your comments.[/p][/quote]If life was so simple and all were so wise... fairweathersupporter
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12:27pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Freeloaders says...

fratsomrover wrote:
What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.
What a wonderful post.Lets face it why sign Dobbie on a 3 year contract if not to play him.Yes he was a big nightclub drunk at Swansea,thats why they got shot.But he can't be that unfit he should have 60 or 70 mins in him still.
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.[/p][/quote]What a wonderful post.Lets face it why sign Dobbie on a 3 year contract if not to play him.Yes he was a big nightclub drunk at Swansea,thats why they got shot.But he can't be that unfit he should have 60 or 70 mins in him still. Freeloaders
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12:27pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Freeloaders says...

fratsomrover wrote:
What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.
What a wonderful post.Lets face it why sign Dobbie on a 3 year contract if not to play him.Yes he was a big nightclub drunk at Swansea,thats why they got shot.But he can't be that unfit he should have 60 or 70 mins in him still.
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.[/p][/quote]What a wonderful post.Lets face it why sign Dobbie on a 3 year contract if not to play him.Yes he was a big nightclub drunk at Swansea,thats why they got shot.But he can't be that unfit he should have 60 or 70 mins in him still. Freeloaders
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12:31pm Mon 26 Nov 12

reagull says...

wiseman of hove wrote:
fratsomrover wrote: What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.
Total agreement with all your comments.
yep, everything wiseman said for me too...
[quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.[/p][/quote]Total agreement with all your comments.[/p][/quote]yep, everything wiseman said for me too... reagull
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12:32pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Vince says...

There's an old adage in football:- "Strikers hunt in pairs". Gus hasn't heard of this obviously. He's obsessed with the Barcelona way. He's achieved it to a point...but will never get where he wants to be unless we get the right man (a la Messi) on the cheap or Bloom gets his cheque book out!

Look at Henderson and Wood of Millwall. Absolutely lethal together.
Millwall in the play-offs and us in 8th -ridiculous. We totally played them off the park earlier this season.

What a nonsense - Gus should have us top of the table - but he will never achieve it in my opinion unless he gets lucky with his system - i.e. he finds the extra player or two to realise his dream. In the meantime - more false hopes - more false dawns. I hope I'm wrong. I really hope Gus proves me wrong!!!
There's an old adage in football:- "Strikers hunt in pairs". Gus hasn't heard of this obviously. He's obsessed with the Barcelona way. He's achieved it to a point...but will never get where he wants to be unless we get the right man (a la Messi) on the cheap or Bloom gets his cheque book out! Look at Henderson and Wood of Millwall. Absolutely lethal together. Millwall in the play-offs and us in 8th -ridiculous. We totally played them off the park earlier this season. What a nonsense - Gus should have us top of the table - but he will never achieve it in my opinion unless he gets lucky with his system - i.e. he finds the extra player or two to realise his dream. In the meantime - more false hopes - more false dawns. I hope I'm wrong. I really hope Gus proves me wrong!!! Vince
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12:36pm Mon 26 Nov 12

reagull says...

reagull wrote:
wiseman of hove wrote:
fratsomrover wrote: What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.
Total agreement with all your comments.
yep, everything wiseman said for me too...
I meant fratsomrover.....
[quote][p][bold]reagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.[/p][/quote]Total agreement with all your comments.[/p][/quote]yep, everything wiseman said for me too...[/p][/quote]I meant fratsomrover..... reagull
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12:46pm Mon 26 Nov 12

tug509 says...

There are so many good comments and observations above,it is obviously a tough choice for Gus every game ,as to who he thinks will do the best job. I think the "Givens" are Barnes takes no more pens,Dobbie is wasted on the bench,not to say how the guy must feel not getting a game week in week out.

I agree Lopez will show his full ability in due time. Personally i would like to see Will Hoskins start ,we need him ,he`s got a good football brain,so let him prove it by playing him in a free roving role,this should not upset the tactics Gus wants to implement,it will allow WH to make a total nuisance of himself and upset any counter plans Bristol City might have for tomorrow.

If it works we get 3 points before facing "them" if it doesn`t,change it. But i would think this would give CMS a few more chances,if a defender has no idea where the strikers are coming from,he cant read the game so easily,with Craig up front on his own it`s more predictable,with WH or Dobbie having a free role it opens them up imho. UTA
There are so many good comments and observations above,it is obviously a tough choice for Gus every game ,as to who he thinks will do the best job. I think the "Givens" are Barnes takes no more pens,Dobbie is wasted on the bench,not to say how the guy must feel not getting a game week in week out. I agree Lopez will show his full ability in due time. Personally i would like to see Will Hoskins start ,we need him ,he`s got a good football brain,so let him prove it by playing him in a free roving role,this should not upset the tactics Gus wants to implement,it will allow WH to make a total nuisance of himself and upset any counter plans Bristol City might have for tomorrow. If it works we get 3 points before facing "them" if it doesn`t,change it. But i would think this would give CMS a few more chances,if a defender has no idea where the strikers are coming from,he cant read the game so easily,with Craig up front on his own it`s more predictable,with WH or Dobbie having a free role it opens them up imho. UTA tug509
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12:48pm Mon 26 Nov 12

fairweathersupporter says...

reagull wrote:
reagull wrote:
wiseman of hove wrote:
fratsomrover wrote: What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.
Total agreement with all your comments.
yep, everything wiseman said for me too...
I meant fratsomrover.....
Yep, i'd agree with all of you under an assumed name as well But (a. I don't and (b. What's the point?
If any of you are genuine... And i do get the whole Barnes frustration thing and also perhaps there should be some notion as to who is his best penalty taker. Perhaps you should really get a grip. If any of you are suggesting through your somewhat OTT critique that Gus should go, then spare me the drama. And if you are the Wums and idiots that pervade this site... WELL DONE, WELL DONE.
[quote][p][bold]reagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.[/p][/quote]Total agreement with all your comments.[/p][/quote]yep, everything wiseman said for me too...[/p][/quote]I meant fratsomrover.....[/p][/quote]Yep, i'd agree with all of you under an assumed name as well But (a. I don't and (b. What's the point? If any of you are genuine... And i do get the whole Barnes frustration thing and also perhaps there should be some notion as to who is his best penalty taker. Perhaps you should really get a grip. If any of you are suggesting through your somewhat OTT critique that Gus should go, then spare me the drama. And if you are the Wums and idiots that pervade this site... WELL DONE, WELL DONE. fairweathersupporter
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12:58pm Mon 26 Nov 12

fairweathersupporter says...

fairweathersupporter wrote:
reagull wrote:
reagull wrote:
wiseman of hove wrote:
fratsomrover wrote: What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.
Total agreement with all your comments.
yep, everything wiseman said for me too...
I meant fratsomrover.....
Yep, i'd agree with all of you under an assumed name as well But (a. I don't and (b. What's the point? If any of you are genuine... And i do get the whole Barnes frustration thing and also perhaps there should be some notion as to who is his best penalty taker. Perhaps you should really get a grip. If any of you are suggesting through your somewhat OTT critique that Gus should go, then spare me the drama. And if you are the Wums and idiots that pervade this site... WELL DONE, WELL DONE.
Sorry, meant to include the free spirit 'Freeloader' in my rant...
[quote][p][bold]fairweathersupporter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.[/p][/quote]Total agreement with all your comments.[/p][/quote]yep, everything wiseman said for me too...[/p][/quote]I meant fratsomrover.....[/p][/quote]Yep, i'd agree with all of you under an assumed name as well But (a. I don't and (b. What's the point? If any of you are genuine... And i do get the whole Barnes frustration thing and also perhaps there should be some notion as to who is his best penalty taker. Perhaps you should really get a grip. If any of you are suggesting through your somewhat OTT critique that Gus should go, then spare me the drama. And if you are the Wums and idiots that pervade this site... WELL DONE, WELL DONE.[/p][/quote]Sorry, meant to include the free spirit 'Freeloader' in my rant... fairweathersupporter
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12:58pm Mon 26 Nov 12

goldstone says...

Well done, Gus, naming three players who are on the bench or in the treatment room for the great majority of the time.
Well done, Gus, naming three players who are on the bench or in the treatment room for the great majority of the time. goldstone
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1:05pm Mon 26 Nov 12

dave from bexill says...

Vince wrote:
There's an old adage in football:- "Strikers hunt in pairs". Gus hasn't heard of this obviously. He's obsessed with the Barcelona way. He's achieved it to a point...but will never get where he wants to be unless we get the right man (a la Messi) on the cheap or Bloom gets his cheque book out!

Look at Henderson and Wood of Millwall. Absolutely lethal together.
Millwall in the play-offs and us in 8th -ridiculous. We totally played them off the park earlier this season.

What a nonsense - Gus should have us top of the table - but he will never achieve it in my opinion unless he gets lucky with his system - i.e. he finds the extra player or two to realise his dream. In the meantime - more false hopes - more false dawns. I hope I'm wrong. I really hope Gus proves me wrong!!!
Sorry Vince, have I misunderstood what you are saying above? You seem to be praising the two Millwall strikers and how ridiculous it is that they are above us in the league, but then state "We totally Played them off the park". By the way, didn't we actually beat them earlier in the season?
[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: There's an old adage in football:- "Strikers hunt in pairs". Gus hasn't heard of this obviously. He's obsessed with the Barcelona way. He's achieved it to a point...but will never get where he wants to be unless we get the right man (a la Messi) on the cheap or Bloom gets his cheque book out! Look at Henderson and Wood of Millwall. Absolutely lethal together. Millwall in the play-offs and us in 8th -ridiculous. We totally played them off the park earlier this season. What a nonsense - Gus should have us top of the table - but he will never achieve it in my opinion unless he gets lucky with his system - i.e. he finds the extra player or two to realise his dream. In the meantime - more false hopes - more false dawns. I hope I'm wrong. I really hope Gus proves me wrong!!![/p][/quote]Sorry Vince, have I misunderstood what you are saying above? You seem to be praising the two Millwall strikers and how ridiculous it is that they are above us in the league, but then state "We totally Played them off the park". By the way, didn't we actually beat them earlier in the season? dave from bexill
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1:19pm Mon 26 Nov 12

IKnowNowt says...

I think WH should start against Bristol City, he did great against them last season, just make sure he has the correct socks on this time. Ridiculous way to crock yourself.
But what do I know?
I think WH should start against Bristol City, he did great against them last season, just make sure he has the correct socks on this time. Ridiculous way to crock yourself. But what do I know? IKnowNowt
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1:30pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Hovite says...

fairweathersupporter wrote:
fairweathersupporter wrote:
reagull wrote:
reagull wrote:
wiseman of hove wrote:
fratsomrover wrote: What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.
Total agreement with all your comments.
yep, everything wiseman said for me too...
I meant fratsomrover.....
Yep, i'd agree with all of you under an assumed name as well But (a. I don't and (b. What's the point? If any of you are genuine... And i do get the whole Barnes frustration thing and also perhaps there should be some notion as to who is his best penalty taker. Perhaps you should really get a grip. If any of you are suggesting through your somewhat OTT critique that Gus should go, then spare me the drama. And if you are the Wums and idiots that pervade this site... WELL DONE, WELL DONE.
Sorry, meant to include the free spirit 'Freeloader' in my rant...
Concur with you fairweathersupporter
, I’m having a great season and the only drama is invented on this site.

All the woolly fans getting sucked into over reaction by the wums and trolls for their own amusement should stick to watching Eastenders for their soap story.
[quote][p][bold]fairweathersupporter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fairweathersupporter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]reagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: What absolute nonsense from Gus !! He has no idea who the best penalty taker is at the club !!! Really Gus!! You are not doing your job if you dont know your players. And your solution is to select one of two players, Lopez or Vicente because they have "quality". Lopez has so much "quality" he's only played one complete game all season. If he's got so much "quality" why isn't he playing every week ? Vicente isn't even fit enough to pull on a shirt, so can hardly be mentioned as a solution to the problem. Dobbie should have been playing instead of Barnes from the moment he signed. I believe Gus also spoke of his invaluable " class, quality and experience" so lets play the guy instead of sitting him on the bench game after game. Gus has made a mistake in persevering with Barnes when his limitations are there for all to see. He should not be in the team let alone be taking penalties.[/p][/quote]Total agreement with all your comments.[/p][/quote]yep, everything wiseman said for me too...[/p][/quote]I meant fratsomrover.....[/p][/quote]Yep, i'd agree with all of you under an assumed name as well But (a. I don't and (b. What's the point? If any of you are genuine... And i do get the whole Barnes frustration thing and also perhaps there should be some notion as to who is his best penalty taker. Perhaps you should really get a grip. If any of you are suggesting through your somewhat OTT critique that Gus should go, then spare me the drama. And if you are the Wums and idiots that pervade this site... WELL DONE, WELL DONE.[/p][/quote]Sorry, meant to include the free spirit 'Freeloader' in my rant...[/p][/quote]Concur with you fairweathersupporter , I’m having a great season and the only drama is invented on this site. All the woolly fans getting sucked into over reaction by the wums and trolls for their own amusement should stick to watching Eastenders for their soap story. Hovite
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1:35pm Mon 26 Nov 12

mark by the sea says...

Sorry Gus now your naming one who can't get into the team to take pens, and one who has vanished...?
Penalties are about nerves and good technique..
Will Gus drop Barnes and play David? I hope so
Sorry Gus now your naming one who can't get into the team to take pens, and one who has vanished...? Penalties are about nerves and good technique.. Will Gus drop Barnes and play David? I hope so mark by the sea
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1:55pm Mon 26 Nov 12

campotolox says...

No mention of Dave Sexton who died,nice bloke, good player,love the headline iff he is on the pitch?have a job to take them iff he is not?
No mention of Dave Sexton who died,nice bloke, good player,love the headline iff he is on the pitch?have a job to take them iff he is not? campotolox
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1:56pm Mon 26 Nov 12

campotolox says...

No mention of Dave Sexton who died,nice bloke, good player,love the headline iff he is on the pitch?have a job to take them iff he is not?
No mention of Dave Sexton who died,nice bloke, good player,love the headline iff he is on the pitch?have a job to take them iff he is not? campotolox
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2:11pm Mon 26 Nov 12

The Real Ryfish says...

Has anyone noticed a visual similiarity between David and Tobias Menzies?

Anyway, all this "Barnes is ****" stuff is boring because Gus likes him. Dobbie may be better going forward but then this exposes the back as Barnes gets through a shed-load of the ugly side of the game - which almost always goes unappreciated by everyone except the management and team-mates.

Every team in every era has a player the fans don't appreciate: Crumplin was slated for years, Wilkins likewise, Peter Smith even after he got his player-of-the-season award. All got picked because the manager - the man who worked with them in training - saw stuff the untrained eye didn't.
Has anyone noticed a visual similiarity between David and Tobias Menzies? Anyway, all this "Barnes is ****" stuff is boring because Gus likes him. Dobbie may be better going forward but then this exposes the back as Barnes gets through a shed-load of the ugly side of the game - which almost always goes unappreciated by everyone except the management and team-mates. Every team in every era has a player the fans don't appreciate: Crumplin was slated for years, Wilkins likewise, Peter Smith even after he got his player-of-the-season award. All got picked because the manager - the man who worked with them in training - saw stuff the untrained eye didn't. The Real Ryfish
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2:18pm Mon 26 Nov 12

tug509 says...

campotolox wrote:
No mention of Dave Sexton who died,nice bloke, good player,love the headline iff he is on the pitch?have a job to take them iff he is not?
Hello Campo,i agree not a great deal of mention for Dave Sexton,but i think there are very few old enough to give a qualified statement to show proper respect,although i`m sure we all pass on our sincere condolences.
[quote][p][bold]campotolox[/bold] wrote: No mention of Dave Sexton who died,nice bloke, good player,love the headline iff he is on the pitch?have a job to take them iff he is not?[/p][/quote]Hello Campo,i agree not a great deal of mention for Dave Sexton,but i think there are very few old enough to give a qualified statement to show proper respect,although i`m sure we all pass on our sincere condolences. tug509
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2:22pm Mon 26 Nov 12

PittaPatta says...

All this penalty taking talk is really the pits!
Every single player in the squad should be able to take them, and be made to practice on a regular basis. With the advent of penalty shoot-outs, we were actually one of the clubs confident of winning one not so very long ago.
So what happened? Is penalty taking now something ignored in training, and only for those who might feel the inclination to have a go every now and then?
I have backed Barnes before now, but have really come to lose faith in him, having seen him come up far too short in many recent matches. Sticking with him in the team is losing more points than I care to even work out now, so a replacement is long overdue. A replacement who can keep his feet when all about him, are losing theirs and blaming it on Gus!
All this penalty taking talk is really the pits! Every single player in the squad should be able to take them, and be made to practice on a regular basis. With the advent of penalty shoot-outs, we were actually one of the clubs confident of winning one not so very long ago. So what happened? Is penalty taking now something ignored in training, and only for those who might feel the inclination to have a go every now and then? I have backed Barnes before now, but have really come to lose faith in him, having seen him come up far too short in many recent matches. Sticking with him in the team is losing more points than I care to even work out now, so a replacement is long overdue. A replacement who can keep his feet when all about him, are losing theirs and blaming it on Gus! PittaPatta
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2:23pm Mon 26 Nov 12

mikeygit says...

I like the way Gus said 'If Vicente is on the pitch'??? It was said about 10 days ago--if my memory serves me---that Vicente would be ready by Xmas--and many said WHICH Xmas?? Well if it is THIS Xmas we should have heard about him training and get 'reserve' games by now? Xmas is under a month away now!!!
I like the way Gus said 'If Vicente is on the pitch'??? It was said about 10 days ago--if my memory serves me---that Vicente would be ready by Xmas--and many said WHICH Xmas?? Well if it is THIS Xmas we should have heard about him training and get 'reserve' games by now? Xmas is under a month away now!!! mikeygit
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2:40pm Mon 26 Nov 12

MartynMc says...

As there's only ever 2 outcomes as to taking penalties (i.e. you score or you don't) are we questioning whether Barnes is worth his place in the side or do we need somebody else to take the penalties ?
As far as I'm concerned anyone can the penalties as long as they're prepared to step up to the plate and bury it top right bottom left who cares as long as it goes in !
The question should be would we have won or picked up points if we had scored the penalty and the adverse effects on the player involved on their all round contribution to the team.
Gus needs to take full responsibility, change the penalty taker and allow whoever takes over to welly it if need be, be it Bridcutt, Greer or Kzuszczak......
As there's only ever 2 outcomes as to taking penalties (i.e. you score or you don't) are we questioning whether Barnes is worth his place in the side or do we need somebody else to take the penalties ? As far as I'm concerned anyone can the penalties as long as they're prepared to step up to the plate and bury it top right bottom left who cares as long as it goes in ! The question should be would we have won or picked up points if we had scored the penalty and the adverse effects on the player involved on their all round contribution to the team. Gus needs to take full responsibility, change the penalty taker and allow whoever takes over to welly it if need be, be it Bridcutt, Greer or Kzuszczak...... MartynMc
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2:47pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

This all overlooks the fact that Barnes's penalty did not cost us two point - the chances we missed after we scored did, as did the goal we conceded.
This all overlooks the fact that Barnes's penalty did not cost us two point - the chances we missed after we scored did, as did the goal we conceded. Old Scrote of the Amex
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2:55pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Chi Gull says...

campotolox wrote:
No mention of Dave Sexton who died,nice bloke, good player,love the headline iff he is on the pitch?have a job to take them iff he is not?
There was an Argus article on Dave Sexton - I commented on it.
[quote][p][bold]campotolox[/bold] wrote: No mention of Dave Sexton who died,nice bloke, good player,love the headline iff he is on the pitch?have a job to take them iff he is not?[/p][/quote]There was an Argus article on Dave Sexton - I commented on it. Chi Gull
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2:59pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Sarah Booker Lewis says...

campotolox wrote:
No mention of Dave Sexton who died,nice bloke, good player,love the headline iff he is on the pitch?have a job to take them iff he is not?
The story was online on Sunday: http://www.theargus.
co.uk/sport/albion/1
0069848.Former_Albio
n_star_Sexton_dies/
[quote][p][bold]campotolox[/bold] wrote: No mention of Dave Sexton who died,nice bloke, good player,love the headline iff he is on the pitch?have a job to take them iff he is not?[/p][/quote]The story was online on Sunday: http://www.theargus. co.uk/sport/albion/1 0069848.Former_Albio n_star_Sexton_dies/ Sarah Booker Lewis
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3:00pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Chi Gull says...

Yes - interesting to see all the usual moaners and whingers agreeing with each other.

As I have said before, I fail to understand how people can complain about the system we play when we totally ourplayed a side that have only just come down from the premiership.In fact we have dominated all home games this season, with the possible exception of Cardiff. We have a great management team and fantastic ground, great supporters and yummy local beer and pies. All we need is a few more goals to go in.
Yes - interesting to see all the usual moaners and whingers agreeing with each other. As I have said before, I fail to understand how people can complain about the system we play when we totally ourplayed a side that have only just come down from the premiership.In fact we have dominated all home games this season, with the possible exception of Cardiff. We have a great management team and fantastic ground, great supporters and yummy local beer and pies. All we need is a few more goals to go in. Chi Gull
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4:10pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Neville says...

The Real Ryfish says...
2:11pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Has anyone noticed a visual similiarity between David and Tobias Menzies?

Anyway, all this "Barnes is ****" stuff is boring because Gus likes him. Dobbie may be better going forward but then this exposes the back as Barnes gets through a shed-load of the ugly side of the game - which almost always goes unappreciated by everyone except the management and team-mates.

Every team in every era has a player the fans don't appreciate: Crumplin was slated for years, Wilkins likewise, Peter Smith even after he got his player-of-the-season award. All got picked because the manager - the man who worked with them in training - saw stuff the untrained eye didn't.”

Who cares about visual similarities,really dumb post.
You also slate people for not liking and always mentioning Barnes and then you bring him up again,ridiculous.
At least Gus has now made a long overdue decision in relation to penalty takers,even if it is likely that none will be on the pitch when we get the next penalty.
The Real Ryfish says... 2:11pm Mon 26 Nov 12 Has anyone noticed a visual similiarity between David and Tobias Menzies? Anyway, all this "Barnes is ****" stuff is boring because Gus likes him. Dobbie may be better going forward but then this exposes the back as Barnes gets through a shed-load of the ugly side of the game - which almost always goes unappreciated by everyone except the management and team-mates. Every team in every era has a player the fans don't appreciate: Crumplin was slated for years, Wilkins likewise, Peter Smith even after he got his player-of-the-season award. All got picked because the manager - the man who worked with them in training - saw stuff the untrained eye didn't.” Who cares about visual similarities,really dumb post. You also slate people for not liking and always mentioning Barnes and then you bring him up again,ridiculous. At least Gus has now made a long overdue decision in relation to penalty takers,even if it is likely that none will be on the pitch when we get the next penalty. Neville
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4:11pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Neville says...

The Real Ryfish says...
2:11pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Has anyone noticed a visual similiarity between David and Tobias Menzies?

Anyway, all this "Barnes is ****" stuff is boring because Gus likes him. Dobbie may be better going forward but then this exposes the back as Barnes gets through a shed-load of the ugly side of the game - which almost always goes unappreciated by everyone except the management and team-mates.

Every team in every era has a player the fans don't appreciate: Crumplin was slated for years, Wilkins likewise, Peter Smith even after he got his player-of-the-season award. All got picked because the manager - the man who worked with them in training - saw stuff the untrained eye didn't.”

Who cares about visual similarities,really dumb post.
You also slate people for not liking and always mentioning Barnes and then you bring him up again,ridiculous.
At least Gus has now made a long overdue decision in relation to penalty takers,even if it is likely that none will be on the pitch when we get the next penalty.
The Real Ryfish says... 2:11pm Mon 26 Nov 12 Has anyone noticed a visual similiarity between David and Tobias Menzies? Anyway, all this "Barnes is ****" stuff is boring because Gus likes him. Dobbie may be better going forward but then this exposes the back as Barnes gets through a shed-load of the ugly side of the game - which almost always goes unappreciated by everyone except the management and team-mates. Every team in every era has a player the fans don't appreciate: Crumplin was slated for years, Wilkins likewise, Peter Smith even after he got his player-of-the-season award. All got picked because the manager - the man who worked with them in training - saw stuff the untrained eye didn't.” Who cares about visual similarities,really dumb post. You also slate people for not liking and always mentioning Barnes and then you bring him up again,ridiculous. At least Gus has now made a long overdue decision in relation to penalty takers,even if it is likely that none will be on the pitch when we get the next penalty. Neville
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5:01pm Mon 26 Nov 12

albionbloke says...

".........Vicente once he returns from injury."

Someone's having a laugh with this one!
".........Vicente once he returns from injury." Someone's having a laugh with this one! albionbloke
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5:33pm Mon 26 Nov 12

tug509 says...

If everyone on this site agreed about everything,we would be a bunch of sycophants and were not.
So whats the problem! this site is here for all of us to say whats on our minds,and as i still consider myself a rookie,can i start.

QPR have a great squad,but a totally inadequate manager,until HR,bet it wont take long to see the improvements. We have a great manager,and a great squad,for a side in our (all round) position. Frustration is the key word for me,we batter teams week in and out,guarantee no one looks at their fixtures and says ,oh good we got the Albion,more like pack my extra special undies misses.

All you GM divas,We wont be giving him the same chances as other teams have,great big pile of guano that they are!. a little faith...UTA
If everyone on this site agreed about everything,we would be a bunch of sycophants and were not. So whats the problem! this site is here for all of us to say whats on our minds,and as i still consider myself a rookie,can i start. QPR have a great squad,but a totally inadequate manager,until HR,bet it wont take long to see the improvements. We have a great manager,and a great squad,for a side in our (all round) position. Frustration is the key word for me,we batter teams week in and out,guarantee no one looks at their fixtures and says ,oh good we got the Albion,more like pack my extra special undies misses. All you GM divas,We wont be giving him the same chances as other teams have,great big pile of guano that they are!. a little faith...UTA tug509
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5:47pm Mon 26 Nov 12

The Real Ryfish says...

Hello again Neville, it's been too long since we last hooked up, my old friend! How's the family? We really must meet up for a beer again soon!
(sigh)

You really do pick up on the smallest thing I say, don't you? Have you never heard of an aside? You'll spot them in lots of posts but will ignore them. I presume you will now go back and write 'really dumb post' in reply to all the other comments you don't care about in all the other stories?

You have - once again - entirely missed the point of my post. This is becoming a habit. It might be a good idea if you read and understand before replying. I know that you might consider it a waste of time as you have already made up your mind to disagree with me, but at least show some manners? For clarification this had become a discussion on Barnes and I voiced my opinion and gave some reason for it, fully aware of all irony. I was not dragging up a name that had not been mentioned.

Why not just skip right past my posts once you see my name, it will save us both the tedium of these exchanges. You hate me, I pity you. And so the world keeps turning.

Anyway, sorry, what was your point again?

PS: Apologies to all the other (ie worthwhile) posters on here for these spats too - these were never my intention. I have finally had enough of the idiots on this website (Neville, BB and the plank who posts under about a dozen pseudonyms) and will not bother again. Cheerio to Hovite, MTBS, Rhodes Seagull and all the other fine people on here with whom I have enjoyed chatting. Thanks for all the fish. It was fun for a few years.
Hello again Neville, it's been too long since we last hooked up, my old friend! How's the family? We really must meet up for a beer again soon! (sigh) You really do pick up on the smallest thing I say, don't you? Have you never heard of an aside? You'll spot them in lots of posts but will ignore them. I presume you will now go back and write 'really dumb post' in reply to all the other comments you don't care about in all the other stories? You have - once again - entirely missed the point of my post. This is becoming a habit. It might be a good idea if you read and understand before replying. I know that you might consider it a waste of time as you have already made up your mind to disagree with me, but at least show some manners? For clarification this had become a discussion on Barnes and I voiced my opinion and gave some reason for it, fully aware of all irony. I was not dragging up a name that had not been mentioned. Why not just skip right past my posts once you see my name, it will save us both the tedium of these exchanges. You hate me, I pity you. And so the world keeps turning. Anyway, sorry, what was your point again? PS: Apologies to all the other (ie worthwhile) posters on here for these spats too - these were never my intention. I have finally had enough of the idiots on this website (Neville, BB and the plank who posts under about a dozen pseudonyms) and will not bother again. Cheerio to Hovite, MTBS, Rhodes Seagull and all the other fine people on here with whom I have enjoyed chatting. Thanks for all the fish. It was fun for a few years. The Real Ryfish
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5:51pm Mon 26 Nov 12

wiseman of hove says...

tug509 wrote:
If everyone on this site agreed about everything,we would be a bunch of sycophants and were not.
So whats the problem! this site is here for all of us to say whats on our minds,and as i still consider myself a rookie,can i start.

QPR have a great squad,but a totally inadequate manager,until HR,bet it wont take long to see the improvements. We have a great manager,and a great squad,for a side in our (all round) position. Frustration is the key word for me,we batter teams week in and out,guarantee no one looks at their fixtures and says ,oh good we got the Albion,more like pack my extra special undies misses.

All you GM divas,We wont be giving him the same chances as other teams have,great big pile of guano that they are!. a little faith...UTA
Sensible comments. Usually agree with you tug509 but just on the QPR issue, I think the overall squad is poor. I have them down for relegation notwithstanding HR's arrival. Just a feeing that this is a rescue mission one too many for HR.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: If everyone on this site agreed about everything,we would be a bunch of sycophants and were not. So whats the problem! this site is here for all of us to say whats on our minds,and as i still consider myself a rookie,can i start. QPR have a great squad,but a totally inadequate manager,until HR,bet it wont take long to see the improvements. We have a great manager,and a great squad,for a side in our (all round) position. Frustration is the key word for me,we batter teams week in and out,guarantee no one looks at their fixtures and says ,oh good we got the Albion,more like pack my extra special undies misses. All you GM divas,We wont be giving him the same chances as other teams have,great big pile of guano that they are!. a little faith...UTA[/p][/quote]Sensible comments. Usually agree with you tug509 but just on the QPR issue, I think the overall squad is poor. I have them down for relegation notwithstanding HR's arrival. Just a feeing that this is a rescue mission one too many for HR. wiseman of hove
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6:32pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Neville says...

For Ryfish
This site is all about opinions and everyone has the right to an opinion,whether right or wrong. What is not right is to dismiss everyone elses opinion out of hand when you do not concur and make personal remarks,that is not acceptable,thats what I don't like.
Look fwd to chatting with you on the cricket website,lol.
For Ryfish This site is all about opinions and everyone has the right to an opinion,whether right or wrong. What is not right is to dismiss everyone elses opinion out of hand when you do not concur and make personal remarks,that is not acceptable,thats what I don't like. Look fwd to chatting with you on the cricket website,lol. Neville
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6:51pm Mon 26 Nov 12

namgo49 says...

Bolton were a rubbish side and we should have been so far ahead at half time they would not have wanted to come out after the break.

As is we gave the game away and now there is the possibility of lightweight Lopez getting a run out. Absurd. Reminds me a lot of the players Brighton had playing week in week out last season. Just off the pace and too easily knocked off the ball. It would be an error to play him. Bring in Hoskins or Dobbie for Barnes and that will do.

CMS is low on confidence again and just can't play the game that GP wants his lone striker to do. I can't see his long term future being with the club. If we can get our money back on him then we would do well do do so in January.

Vicente, no point in him staying. There is a need to free up a treatment table.

It's El-Abd we really miss. Dunk has lost his way and is a liability.

Thought Painter had a really good game and it was a bit of a mystery as to why he came off.

Nothing less than a convincing win tomorrow night will do. Palace on Saturday and we shall get nothing from that one!!
Bolton were a rubbish side and we should have been so far ahead at half time they would not have wanted to come out after the break. As is we gave the game away and now there is the possibility of lightweight Lopez getting a run out. Absurd. Reminds me a lot of the players Brighton had playing week in week out last season. Just off the pace and too easily knocked off the ball. It would be an error to play him. Bring in Hoskins or Dobbie for Barnes and that will do. CMS is low on confidence again and just can't play the game that GP wants his lone striker to do. I can't see his long term future being with the club. If we can get our money back on him then we would do well do do so in January. Vicente, no point in him staying. There is a need to free up a treatment table. It's El-Abd we really miss. Dunk has lost his way and is a liability. Thought Painter had a really good game and it was a bit of a mystery as to why he came off. Nothing less than a convincing win tomorrow night will do. Palace on Saturday and we shall get nothing from that one!! namgo49
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7:13pm Mon 26 Nov 12

tug509 says...

namgo49 wrote:
Bolton were a rubbish side and we should have been so far ahead at half time they would not have wanted to come out after the break.

As is we gave the game away and now there is the possibility of lightweight Lopez getting a run out. Absurd. Reminds me a lot of the players Brighton had playing week in week out last season. Just off the pace and too easily knocked off the ball. It would be an error to play him. Bring in Hoskins or Dobbie for Barnes and that will do.

CMS is low on confidence again and just can't play the game that GP wants his lone striker to do. I can't see his long term future being with the club. If we can get our money back on him then we would do well do do so in January.

Vicente, no point in him staying. There is a need to free up a treatment table.

It's El-Abd we really miss. Dunk has lost his way and is a liability.

Thought Painter had a really good game and it was a bit of a mystery as to why he came off.

Nothing less than a convincing win tomorrow night will do. Palace on Saturday and we shall get nothing from that one!!
Wash your mouth out Namgo,Bolton were rubbish because we allowed them to look that good. Your not the only one to be disappointed,look on the bright side,were slaughtering teams and they know it,so far they have the luck,what we have is better,skill,ability
,and when it comes together,the league.

Gus reckons we are due a big win,anyone for Saturday!!!!!...UTA.
.PAS
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote: Bolton were a rubbish side and we should have been so far ahead at half time they would not have wanted to come out after the break. As is we gave the game away and now there is the possibility of lightweight Lopez getting a run out. Absurd. Reminds me a lot of the players Brighton had playing week in week out last season. Just off the pace and too easily knocked off the ball. It would be an error to play him. Bring in Hoskins or Dobbie for Barnes and that will do. CMS is low on confidence again and just can't play the game that GP wants his lone striker to do. I can't see his long term future being with the club. If we can get our money back on him then we would do well do do so in January. Vicente, no point in him staying. There is a need to free up a treatment table. It's El-Abd we really miss. Dunk has lost his way and is a liability. Thought Painter had a really good game and it was a bit of a mystery as to why he came off. Nothing less than a convincing win tomorrow night will do. Palace on Saturday and we shall get nothing from that one!![/p][/quote]Wash your mouth out Namgo,Bolton were rubbish because we allowed them to look that good. Your not the only one to be disappointed,look on the bright side,were slaughtering teams and they know it,so far they have the luck,what we have is better,skill,ability ,and when it comes together,the league. Gus reckons we are due a big win,anyone for Saturday!!!!!...UTA. .PAS tug509
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7:56pm Mon 26 Nov 12

Eddy B says...

Penalties (and by inference referees) are a very significant part of the game so deserve careful consideration. We have had 6 so far this season - what's that, 1 in 3 games? Although there are always some exceptions I would prefer to bank on a striker who is used to hitting the net (that's why it was bonkers having players like Batty and Southgate taking penalties for England in vital shootouts). So anyone from Dobbie, Barnes, CMS, Buckley should' n't have a problem. But Barnes will have lost confidence. Also does need to be a first team regular of course. I'd give Dobbie a regular run in the team and give him the job.
Penalties (and by inference referees) are a very significant part of the game so deserve careful consideration. We have had 6 so far this season - what's that, 1 in 3 games? Although there are always some exceptions I would prefer to bank on a striker who is used to hitting the net (that's why it was bonkers having players like Batty and Southgate taking penalties for England in vital shootouts). So anyone from Dobbie, Barnes, CMS, Buckley should' n't have a problem. But Barnes will have lost confidence. Also does need to be a first team regular of course. I'd give Dobbie a regular run in the team and give him the job. Eddy B
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8:30pm Mon 26 Nov 12

tug509 says...

Eddy B wrote:
Penalties (and by inference referees) are a very significant part of the game so deserve careful consideration. We have had 6 so far this season - what's that, 1 in 3 games? Although there are always some exceptions I would prefer to bank on a striker who is used to hitting the net (that's why it was bonkers having players like Batty and Southgate taking penalties for England in vital shootouts). So anyone from Dobbie, Barnes, CMS, Buckley should' n't have a problem. But Barnes will have lost confidence. Also does need to be a first team regular of course. I'd give Dobbie a regular run in the team and give him the job.
Whats your point Eddy.? UTA
[quote][p][bold]Eddy B[/bold] wrote: Penalties (and by inference referees) are a very significant part of the game so deserve careful consideration. We have had 6 so far this season - what's that, 1 in 3 games? Although there are always some exceptions I would prefer to bank on a striker who is used to hitting the net (that's why it was bonkers having players like Batty and Southgate taking penalties for England in vital shootouts). So anyone from Dobbie, Barnes, CMS, Buckley should' n't have a problem. But Barnes will have lost confidence. Also does need to be a first team regular of course. I'd give Dobbie a regular run in the team and give him the job.[/p][/quote]Whats your point Eddy.? UTA tug509
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10:27am Tue 27 Nov 12

Cabin fever says...

The Real Ryfish wrote:
Hello again Neville, it's been too long since we last hooked up, my old friend! How's the family? We really must meet up for a beer again soon!
(sigh)

You really do pick up on the smallest thing I say, don't you? Have you never heard of an aside? You'll spot them in lots of posts but will ignore them. I presume you will now go back and write 'really dumb post' in reply to all the other comments you don't care about in all the other stories?

You have - once again - entirely missed the point of my post. This is becoming a habit. It might be a good idea if you read and understand before replying. I know that you might consider it a waste of time as you have already made up your mind to disagree with me, but at least show some manners? For clarification this had become a discussion on Barnes and I voiced my opinion and gave some reason for it, fully aware of all irony. I was not dragging up a name that had not been mentioned.

Why not just skip right past my posts once you see my name, it will save us both the tedium of these exchanges. You hate me, I pity you. And so the world keeps turning.

Anyway, sorry, what was your point again?

PS: Apologies to all the other (ie worthwhile) posters on here for these spats too - these were never my intention. I have finally had enough of the idiots on this website (Neville, BB and the plank who posts under about a dozen pseudonyms) and will not bother again. Cheerio to Hovite, MTBS, Rhodes Seagull and all the other fine people on here with whom I have enjoyed chatting. Thanks for all the fish. It was fun for a few years.
I've always read your posts and thought that I would have written exactly the same things. I don't think I've read much that I've disagreed with, same as Ringmer Rich.

It seems like we also agree on the quality of contributors to this site, which are, to a large degree, made up of armchair managers and wind-up merchants.

I'm quite tempted to leave them to it too...
[quote][p][bold]The Real Ryfish[/bold] wrote: Hello again Neville, it's been too long since we last hooked up, my old friend! How's the family? We really must meet up for a beer again soon! (sigh) You really do pick up on the smallest thing I say, don't you? Have you never heard of an aside? You'll spot them in lots of posts but will ignore them. I presume you will now go back and write 'really dumb post' in reply to all the other comments you don't care about in all the other stories? You have - once again - entirely missed the point of my post. This is becoming a habit. It might be a good idea if you read and understand before replying. I know that you might consider it a waste of time as you have already made up your mind to disagree with me, but at least show some manners? For clarification this had become a discussion on Barnes and I voiced my opinion and gave some reason for it, fully aware of all irony. I was not dragging up a name that had not been mentioned. Why not just skip right past my posts once you see my name, it will save us both the tedium of these exchanges. You hate me, I pity you. And so the world keeps turning. Anyway, sorry, what was your point again? PS: Apologies to all the other (ie worthwhile) posters on here for these spats too - these were never my intention. I have finally had enough of the idiots on this website (Neville, BB and the plank who posts under about a dozen pseudonyms) and will not bother again. Cheerio to Hovite, MTBS, Rhodes Seagull and all the other fine people on here with whom I have enjoyed chatting. Thanks for all the fish. It was fun for a few years.[/p][/quote]I've always read your posts and thought that I would have written exactly the same things. I don't think I've read much that I've disagreed with, same as Ringmer Rich. It seems like we also agree on the quality of contributors to this site, which are, to a large degree, made up of armchair managers and wind-up merchants. I'm quite tempted to leave them to it too... Cabin fever
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11:15am Tue 27 Nov 12

Hovite says...

Agree Cabs and TRF, too much pointless twaddle on here now days. On the plus side, the truth will prevail no matter how much negative invention is thrown in.

Hope to see all the good posters past and present back on here one day, but for now it's best to quit and leave the dedicated idiots to it.
Agree Cabs and TRF, too much pointless twaddle on here now days. On the plus side, the truth will prevail no matter how much negative invention is thrown in. Hope to see all the good posters past and present back on here one day, but for now it's best to quit and leave the dedicated idiots to it. Hovite
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11:45am Tue 27 Nov 12

Hovite says...

I mean TRR
I mean TRR Hovite
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