Albion attendances skyrocket (From The Argus)

Please also note the attendance is who comes through the turnstile, and not who has a ticket, but did not attend the game, in terms of money, the club are moving rapidly in a great direction, while the manager is learning, please remember ferguson saved himself by beating brighton in the fa cup..

It just goes to show what a fantastic fan base the Albion has. It also underlines how much the club suffered after the Goldstone was sold with the club barely surviving which was difficult without a permanent decent ground. Survive BHA did thanks largely to Dick Knight.
Now thanks to TB we have a great stadium and a solid foundation being built with the Academy project underway.
Hopefully the extra revenue being generated, even after allowing for all the increased costs, should feed through to the benefit of the playing squad.
Recent comments from Poyet indicate that there should be some signings in the January window with another CB and striker top off the wish list.
Talking of strikers on the Football Transfer Rumours website today there is a posting speculating whether we might make another approach for Genoa's Uruguayan forward Ribas whom we were interested in in the summer. Apparently his loan to Monaco (?) ends in January.
Anyway it will be interesting to see what ' New Year's Presents'/Signings Poyet will reveal next month.
Thoughts anyone ?

It seems a bit futile to compare Withdene attendances to the Amex as a percentage increase. That is meaningless. A true comparison would be that of the old Goldstone ground when in the good days the attendance was in the region of 20-25 thousand. Therefore to date the increase is negligable.

It was Ron Atkinson though.

Hovite wrote:
It was Ron Atkinson though.

meant for mbts

mark by the sea wrote:
Please also note the attendance is who comes through the turnstile, and not who has a ticket, but did not attend the game, in terms of money, the club are moving rapidly in a great direction, while the manager is learning, please remember ferguson saved himself by beating brighton in the fa cup..

MBTS sorry to question one element of your posting but if you are referring to the 1983 Cup final I think Ron Atkinson was United's Manager. I may be wrong... No doubt various Posters will correct me if I am.

ballantrrae wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:
Please also note the attendance is who comes through the turnstile, and not who has a ticket, but did not attend the game, in terms of money, the club are moving rapidly in a great direction, while the manager is learning, please remember ferguson saved himself by beating brighton in the fa cup..

MBTS sorry to question one element of your posting but if you are referring to the 1983 Cup final I think Ron Atkinson was United's Manager. I may be wrong... No doubt various Posters will correct me if I am.

You could be right, I know he is about 25 years plus at the helm, long long time ago.

I wonder what the difference is between the average wage of those that attended the last year at the Goldstone and those of the people that attend the Amex today, then compare that as a percentage of what is charged at the turnstile.

Football has become expensive and the turnstile price reflects that. The fact that Brighton can rely on such big crowd numbers is testomony what the club is offering, both in quality of the players and the expectation of even greater things to come.

mark by the sea wrote:
Please also note the attendance is who comes through the turnstile, and not who has a ticket, but did not attend the game, in terms of money, the club are moving rapidly in a great direction, while the manager is learning, please remember ferguson saved himself by beating brighton in the fa cup..

Ferguson's job was saved by Hughes scoring a last minute equaliser against Oldham in the semi final of the cup back in around 91/92...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I wonder what the difference is between the average wage of those that attended the last year at the Goldstone and those of the people that attend the Amex today, then compare that as a percentage of what is charged at the turnstile.

Football has become expensive and the turnstile price reflects that. The fact that Brighton can rely on such big crowd numbers is testomony what the club is offering, both in quality of the players and the expectation of even greater things to come.

I remember at the Goldstone the exorbitant price of a polystyrene cup of chips. I don't think things are that much worse at the Amex!

ballantrrae wrote:

mark by the sea wrote: Please also note the attendance is who comes through the turnstile, and not who has a ticket, but did not attend the game, in terms of money, the club are moving rapidly in a great direction, while the manager is learning, please remember ferguson saved himself by beating brighton in the fa cup..

MBTS sorry to question one element of your posting but if you are referring to the 1983 Cup final I think Ron Atkinson was United's Manager. I may be wrong... No doubt various Posters will correct me if I am.

It was Big Ron.

It was definitely Atkinson who was the Man Ure manager at the Cup Final. I was there. Atkinson then went on to coin the terrible phrase 'Early doors' in an interview when he said 'Early Days' incorrectly because he had had a few. He was an idiot. A nice bloke though.
While we're on the subject of managers saying daft things; it was Glenn Doddle (yes, I know) who first started the awful incorrect cliche of 'moment in time'.Sheer tautology as everybody knows that 'moment' means a point in time so the additional 'in time' is redundant. People say stupid things and most of the rest of footballers follow them because they are not very bright.
Ah, that's better. Rant over.

Depends if quantum physics are taken into account and which parallel universe you are in.

When our time comes for promotion it is not fairytale land to think that we will have a sell out for every home match. Away support will be better and of course our own will want to be there. Some might say that being somewhat isolated on the southcoast is a bad thing, but it also means that we don't have any competion for bums on seats.
Is it possible that all the seats available to Brighton supporters could go season ticket?
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Claude Back wrote:
It was definitely Atkinson who was the Man Ure manager at the Cup Final. I was there. Atkinson then went on to coin the terrible phrase 'Early doors' in an interview when he said 'Early Days' incorrectly because he had had a few. He was an idiot. A nice bloke though.
While we're on the subject of managers saying daft things; it was Glenn Doddle (yes, I know) who first started the awful incorrect cliche of 'moment in time'.Sheer tautology as everybody knows that 'moment' means a point in time so the additional 'in time' is redundant. People say stupid things and most of the rest of footballers follow them because they are not very bright.
Ah, that's better. Rant over.

Don't worry Claude - H.E. Bates used "A Moment in Time" for the title of one of his books (which Is where Glenn Hoddle probably first heard it, I suspect). So who are we mere mortals to worry about such tautology?

Hovite wrote:
Depends if quantum physics are taken into account and which parallel universe you are in.

Forth dimension I would say, on planet Zog. Go on, ask me where planet Zog is

In 1964/65 the year we finished Champions of the old Division 4, the average home crowd at the Goldstone was almost 18,000. The final game of the season against Darlington we had about 31,000 there. It goes to show that the Albion have always had a huge following, no matter where they were in the League. This is fantastic news, and it shows that the club is headed in the right direction with a great staff, and playing an excellent brand of football. Wish I could be at Falmer every other week to share in it. Up the Albion...

In 1964/65 the year we finished Champions of the old Division 4, the average home crowd at the Goldstone was almost 18,000. The final game of the season against Darlington we had about 31,000 there. It goes to show that the Albion have always had a huge following, no matter where they were in the League. This is fantastic news, and it shows that the club is headed in the right direction with a great staff, and playing an excellent brand of football. Wish I could be at Falmer every other week to share in it. Up the Albion...

All we need now is a top class manager and a top class team good enough to win promotion. Obviously Mark Hughes who has been mentioned here is available. Martin O Neill may also be available if Sunderland lose tonight. Roberto Di Matteo is also out of a job I would add, which would continue the Chesea connection.

saraman wrote:

Hovite wrote:
Depends if quantum physics are taken into account and which parallel universe you are in.

Forth dimension I would say, on planet Zog. Go on, ask me where planet Zog is

I know where it is, I'm half zogian myself.

mark by the sea wrote:
Please also note the attendance is who comes through the turnstile, and not who has a ticket, but did not attend the game, in terms of money, the club are moving rapidly in a great direction, while the manager is learning, please remember ferguson saved himself by beating brighton in the fa cup..

Actually, it was Mark Robins, currently the manager of Coventry, about whom it is reported, saved Alex Ferguson's job, by scoring a winning goal in an FA cup round (3 I think) in 1990 against Forest.

sussexram40 wrote:
All we need now is a top class manager and a top class team good enough to win promotion. Obviously Mark Hughes who has been mentioned here is available. Martin O Neill may also be available if Sunderland lose tonight. Roberto Di Matteo is also out of a job I would add, which would continue the Chesea connection.

are you serious

sussexram40 wrote:
All we need now is a top class manager and a top class team good enough to win promotion. Obviously Mark Hughes who has been mentioned here is available. Martin O Neill may also be available if Sunderland lose tonight. Roberto Di Matteo is also out of a job I would add, which would continue the Chesea connection.

We've got one and are close to the second.

saraman wrote:
It seems a bit futile to compare Withdene attendances to the Amex as a percentage increase. That is meaningless. A true comparison would be that of the old Goldstone ground when in the good days the attendance was in the region of 20-25 thousand. Therefore to date the increase is negligable.

Agreed. A comparison with the Goldstone is relevant. I recall being there when Fulham came circa 1960 with Johnny Haynes and I think the gate was around 35,000. The forthcoming capacity of 30,750 will be easily reached if current progress is maintained - as I'm sure it will - and will start to become a 'problem' if the premiership is reached and that status is maintained.

sussexram40 wrote:
All we need now is a top class manager and a top class team good enough to win promotion. Obviously Mark Hughes who has been mentioned here is available. Martin O Neill may also be available if Sunderland lose tonight. Roberto Di Matteo is also out of a job I would add, which would continue the Chesea connection.

We've got one and are close to the second.

Dave at times I really wonder what must be going on in some people's heads.

We got promoted as champions just a couple of seasons ago, as yet we have not even had two seasons in the Championship and some are complaining already!

Sussexram, do you really think it fair to expect Gus to amass a team good enough
to get promotion to the prem in less than two seasons?

How about saying that if we hadn't left Withdene and used the 90 million it cost to build our stadium on players, we could not be in the prem, that makes just as much sense as what you are saying.

Sir you have no concept of what it takes to make such a huge step. Instant gratification is your wish, much like those hooked on drugs. You want something and unless you get it, NOW, then people are letting you down, that is not the attitude of a Brighton fan, but sadly it is yours.

we could be in the prem

sussexram40 wrote:
All we need now is a top class manager and a top class team good enough to win promotion. Obviously Mark Hughes who has been mentioned here is available. Martin O Neill may also be available if Sunderland lose tonight. Roberto Di Matteo is also out of a job I would add, which would continue the Chesea connection.

Was that a good fishing trip?

Ferguson was the manager when we played Man Utd in the Barry Lloyd era in 3rd or 4th round of FA Cup. Ferguson was under a lot of pressure and Giggs rescued them with a winner in the last 10 mins - from memory. I remember the Albion fans chanting 'will you ever win the league' at one point ... which of course they did, several times thereafter. I think that's what MBTS is referring to.

VegasSeagull wrote:

sussexram40 wrote:
All we need now is a top class manager and a top class team good enough to win promotion. Obviously Mark Hughes who has been mentioned here is available. Martin O Neill may also be available if Sunderland lose tonight. Roberto Di Matteo is also out of a job I would add, which would continue the Chesea connection.

are you serious

No he's not serious. He's a WUM!

wiseman of hove wrote:

saraman wrote:
It seems a bit futile to compare Withdene attendances to the Amex as a percentage increase. That is meaningless. A true comparison would be that of the old Goldstone ground when in the good days the attendance was in the region of 20-25 thousand. Therefore to date the increase is negligable.

Agreed. A comparison with the Goldstone is relevant. I recall being there when Fulham came circa 1960 with Johnny Haynes and I think the gate was around 35,000. The forthcoming capacity of 30,750 will be easily reached if current progress is maintained - as I'm sure it will - and will start to become a 'problem' if the premiership is reached and that status is maintained.

36,747 if I remember correctly and there was room for even more as there was a load of space in the NE corner.
4th division also mentioned when we played the most fantastic football, fans regularly came down from "the smoke" to watch us as we were more entertaining than all the London clubs during that season.

sussexram40 wrote:
All we need now is a top class manager and a top class team good enough to win promotion. Obviously Mark Hughes who has been mentioned here is available. Martin O Neill may also be available if Sunderland lose tonight. Roberto Di Matteo is also out of a job I would add, which would continue the Chesea connection.

Ha,ha,ha. Amused me this one! Now wait for the responses from incredulous fellow contributors and........job done!!

A breakdown by age of all season ticket holders would add value to understanding the actual proportion and make up of our increased attendances.
If you were aged 15 back in 1997, you'd of been 29 at the start of the 2011 AMEX. I bet there are many 18-25 year olds who represent a big part of this increase.

9 of us wrote:
A breakdown by age of all season ticket holders would add value to understanding the actual proportion and make up of our increased attendances. If you were aged 15 back in 1997, you'd of been 29 at the start of the 2011 AMEX. I bet there are many 18-25 year olds who represent a big part of this increase.

15-29 years of age, I wish.

Claude Back wrote:
It was definitely Atkinson who was the Man Ure manager at the Cup Final. I was there. Atkinson then went on to coin the terrible phrase 'Early doors' in an interview when he said 'Early Days' incorrectly because he had had a few. He was an idiot. A nice bloke though.
While we're on the subject of managers saying daft things; it was Glenn Doddle (yes, I know) who first started the awful incorrect cliche of 'moment in time'.Sheer tautology as everybody knows that 'moment' means a point in time so the additional 'in time' is redundant. People say stupid things and most of the rest of footballers follow them because they are not very bright.
Ah, that's better. Rant over.

In physics, the term moment can refer to many different concepts. Roughly speaking any physical quantity multiplied by a length can be called moment.

i can remember 1967 we got chelsea at home in the 4th round FA cup,to get our tickets we had to pay to watch the resevers play this must have been the biggest attendance for a reserve game against chelsea there were 35000 i cannot for the life of me remember which team the reserves were playing against or what the attendance was.Glad to hear Mr Vincente might play at last.Is he looking for another team this soon in the season.

meaty loaf wrote:

Claude Back wrote:
It was definitely Atkinson who was the Man Ure manager at the Cup Final. I was there. Atkinson then went on to coin the terrible phrase 'Early doors' in an interview when he said 'Early Days' incorrectly because he had had a few. He was an idiot. A nice bloke though.
While we're on the subject of managers saying daft things; it was Glenn Doddle (yes, I know) who first started the awful incorrect cliche of 'moment in time'.Sheer tautology as everybody knows that 'moment' means a point in time so the additional 'in time' is redundant. People say stupid things and most of the rest of footballers follow them because they are not very bright.
Ah, that's better. Rant over.

In physics, the term moment can refer to many different concepts. Roughly speaking any physical quantity multiplied by a length can be called moment.

Claude Back and Meaty Loaf, I saw a program last night on BBC about Simon and Garfunkel and the recording of the Bridge over Troubled Water album. (really interesting if you like music by the way).
In an interview Paul Simon had at the time (1970ish) the interviewer used the expression 'Moment in Time'. Having just read these postings only a few hours earlier I noted it.
It is not uncommon in my experience for these buzz phrases, as 'Moment in Time' became, to originate in the USA, normally on the TV. I think therefore that Glen Hoddle and others can be forgiven in this instance

Johnny Haynes, coats for goalposts! 30,000 at the goldstone. Is it my imagination or were Albion involved in some match fixing back in the dark old days. Got promotion on the last day of the season and denied brentford. Up the Bees,! Or was it all a dream?

ballantrrae wrote:

meaty loaf wrote:

Claude Back wrote:
It was definitely Atkinson who was the Man Ure manager at the Cup Final. I was there. Atkinson then went on to coin the terrible phrase 'Early doors' in an interview when he said 'Early Days' incorrectly because he had had a few. He was an idiot. A nice bloke though.
While we're on the subject of managers saying daft things; it was Glenn Doddle (yes, I know) who first started the awful incorrect cliche of 'moment in time'.Sheer tautology as everybody knows that 'moment' means a point in time so the additional 'in time' is redundant. People say stupid things and most of the rest of footballers follow them because they are not very bright.
Ah, that's better. Rant over.

In physics, the term moment can refer to many different concepts. Roughly speaking any physical quantity multiplied by a length can be called moment.

Claude Back and Meaty Loaf, I saw a program last night on BBC about Simon and Garfunkel and the recording of the Bridge over Troubled Water album. (really interesting if you like music by the way).
In an interview Paul Simon had at the time (1970ish) the interviewer used the expression 'Moment in Time'. Having just read these postings only a few hours earlier I noted it.
It is not uncommon in my experience for these buzz phrases, as 'Moment in Time' became, to originate in the USA, normally on the TV. I think therefore that Glen Hoddle and others can be forgiven in this instance

Whitney Houston sang a song about it. How did it go now........?

ballantrrae wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:
Please also note the attendance is who comes through the turnstile, and not who has a ticket, but did not attend the game, in terms of money, the club are moving rapidly in a great direction, while the manager is learning, please remember ferguson saved himself by beating brighton in the fa cup..

MBTS sorry to question one element of your posting but if you are referring to the 1983 Cup final I think Ron Atkinson was United's Manager. I may be wrong... No doubt various Posters will correct me if I am.

Speaking of Big Ron, and for some light relief from the bickering that goes on in this forum, there's a classic clip worth watching of David Coleman talking with Ron and Jimmy Melia.

Well, good for the old-timers anyway.

Listen out near the end when David brings up the arrival at Wembley by British Caledonian helicopter, and Ron says to Jimmy, "and don't let none of those Irish lads turn the fan off".
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=lilgF4AzU
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I liked Jimmy, we played some good stuff then. I went to Anfiefld on our FA cup run to see us beat Liverpool 2-1, when Liverpool had a penalty awarded to make things level but they blasted it into the Cop instead of the goal. You should have heard the silence of Cop followed by the roar of us fans.

I think we took over 5,000 up there and it was the best footballing memory I had.

Those were the days when we had the roof taken off the North Stand and we all made the most of the acoustics at Anfield that day and out sang Liverpool. What a difference a roof makes.

We even had a brick thrown through the coach window.

Them were the days