Vicente's on the way back

Vicente is making his way back to fitness

Vicente is making his way back to fitness

First published in Sport by , Chief sports reporter

Vicente has been earmarked for a New Year comeback for Albion.

And boss Gus Poyet admits it will feel like a January signing if the Spanish playmaker is available again.

A thigh tendon injury has sidelined Vicente since a brief appearance as a substitute in Albion’s first home game in the Championship against Cardiff back in August.

The return of the former Valencia playmaker would provide a boost to the Seagulls’ promotion challenge akin to a fresh face arriving once the transfer window re-opens on January 1.

Poyet told The Argus: “That is the idea. It doesn’t need to be in January, it could be in December! I won’t have a problem if he can play on the 29th (home to Watford) or the 22nd (away to Blackburn). If that was the case it would be great.”

Vicente is currently on an individual rehab programme, specifically designed by Albion’s medical team to step up his recovery.

He has yet to resume training with the rest of the squad and Poyet is loathed to put a precise timescale on his return to the main group after several false starts.

“He has been training last week but with us I don’t know,” Poyet said. “He has been training more than he was a month ago.

“He has been working on his fitness in different ways, a different programme so that he can get better and maybe join the group.

“He has been doing a bit of everything, strength work, controlled training, running, the new gravity treadmill and plenty of pool exercises which could be really hard but not the same as playing.

“It is a different way of bringing him back to the first team quickly, where he can train and forget about everything. I don’t want to put a date on it, because that’s not fair.”

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9:48am Wed 12 Dec 12

Gazza by the sea says...

Ole, ole, ole, ole.........
Ole, ole, ole, ole......... Gazza by the sea
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9:55am Wed 12 Dec 12

Clean Sheet says...

Deja Vu?

If this is real I would be stunned, and delighted.
Deja Vu? If this is real I would be stunned, and delighted. Clean Sheet
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9:59am Wed 12 Dec 12

CantUseNSCatWork says...

Believe it when I see it
Believe it when I see it CantUseNSCatWork
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10:02am Wed 12 Dec 12

Bob! says...

Great News that his rehab seems to be going well.

It's a shame that he's still out while Spanish Andy is out, as I see them competing for the same position.
Great News that his rehab seems to be going well. It's a shame that he's still out while Spanish Andy is out, as I see them competing for the same position. Bob!
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10:07am Wed 12 Dec 12

smilingseagull says...

just glossing over the disapointment of Albion not signing a striker in the Jan window!

Of course I hope I am wrong and we have V back and a murrey esk striker on board.
just glossing over the disapointment of Albion not signing a striker in the Jan window! Of course I hope I am wrong and we have V back and a murrey esk striker on board. smilingseagull
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10:10am Wed 12 Dec 12

Dr Baldhead says...

Bob! wrote:
Great News that his rehab seems to be going well.

It's a shame that he's still out while Spanish Andy is out, as I see them competing for the same position.
You may be right on the position, but there's not a lot of competition. A fit Vicente is head and shoulders above any other playmaker in this division, let alone the club.
[quote][p][bold]Bob![/bold] wrote: Great News that his rehab seems to be going well. It's a shame that he's still out while Spanish Andy is out, as I see them competing for the same position.[/p][/quote]You may be right on the position, but there's not a lot of competition. A fit Vicente is head and shoulders above any other playmaker in this division, let alone the club. Dr Baldhead
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10:26am Wed 12 Dec 12

reagull says...

its my birthday on the 29th......I thought having a home game was a good enough
present, it just might get even better! ole!
its my birthday on the 29th......I thought having a home game was a good enough present, it just might get even better! ole! reagull
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10:28am Wed 12 Dec 12

the taffster says...

good news if it happens.lets hope she doesnt break a fingernail between now and then,otherwise it will be back to the treatment table.gus wont be able to afford players in the jan transfer window in my opinion.we already have a massive wage bill consisting mainly of overpaid midfielders.
good news if it happens.lets hope she doesnt break a fingernail between now and then,otherwise it will be back to the treatment table.gus wont be able to afford players in the jan transfer window in my opinion.we already have a massive wage bill consisting mainly of overpaid midfielders. the taffster
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10:31am Wed 12 Dec 12

lowerbeedingseagull says...

Let's look on the bright side. If he is getting wages & B&HA get a return on their investment then the sooner the better for me. He is a fabulous player.
Let's look on the bright side. If he is getting wages & B&HA get a return on their investment then the sooner the better for me. He is a fabulous player. lowerbeedingseagull
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10:41am Wed 12 Dec 12

BobbyLaverick says...

Catch 22 situation here. Vicente would more than likely have left by now but for his continuing injuries. This is good for us, because he is still in the squad. On the other hand, he is something of a financial liability to the club. He still draws wages, but his rare appearances make him of negligible value overall.
Yes, he is a very good player to watch, a crowd attraction and pleaser. But at the end of the day, he is not exactly helping the club to better things.
Catch 22 situation here. Vicente would more than likely have left by now but for his continuing injuries. This is good for us, because he is still in the squad. On the other hand, he is something of a financial liability to the club. He still draws wages, but his rare appearances make him of negligible value overall. Yes, he is a very good player to watch, a crowd attraction and pleaser. But at the end of the day, he is not exactly helping the club to better things. BobbyLaverick
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10:42am Wed 12 Dec 12

pjwilk says...

What planet is he on his way back from.
What planet is he on his way back from. pjwilk
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10:42am Wed 12 Dec 12

pjwilk says...

What planet is he on his way back from.
What planet is he on his way back from. pjwilk
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10:42am Wed 12 Dec 12

hannover seagull says...

It must be hard for Gus to know what to say about Vicente to satisfy everyone

Thigh tendon injuries are notoriously difficult to deal with (big muscle etc)as opposed to breaks which are sometimes easier to mend
Predicting an exact time of return after re-hab is anyones guess
We just have to keep patient till we know one way or the other and I for one hope and believe he will be back with a vengeance

As Harry Redknapp once said

Managing a football club is easy
managing the expectations of supporters is another matter
It must be hard for Gus to know what to say about Vicente to satisfy everyone Thigh tendon injuries are notoriously difficult to deal with (big muscle etc)as opposed to breaks which are sometimes easier to mend Predicting an exact time of return after re-hab is anyones guess We just have to keep patient till we know one way or the other and I for one hope and believe he will be back with a vengeance As Harry Redknapp once said Managing a football club is easy managing the expectations of supporters is another matter hannover seagull
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11:49am Wed 12 Dec 12

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...

CantUseNSCatWork wrote:
Believe it when I see it
And don't blink or you'll miss it as he'll get injured again.
[quote][p][bold]CantUseNSCatWork[/bold] wrote: Believe it when I see it[/p][/quote]And don't blink or you'll miss it as he'll get injured again. Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit
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11:52am Wed 12 Dec 12

pappaK says...

A good Christmas present to those who wait VINCENTE.To all you guys and Girls out there .wish you all a Happy Christmas,I`m off home to OZ till Feb.In the New Year,may you all be Happy-Healthy-Tolere
nt-Understanding- Patient- and debate well without malice.I was not here when you were at Withdean.Stop for a minute and think how far you have come in such a short time,embrace the staff,players stadium you now own.
YOU also have a Theatre of DREAMS. .......... Q.. E... D
A good Christmas present to those who wait VINCENTE.To all you guys and Girls out there .wish you all a Happy Christmas,I`m off home to OZ till Feb.In the New Year,may you all be Happy-Healthy-Tolere nt-Understanding- Patient- and debate well without malice.I was not here when you were at Withdean.Stop for a minute and think how far you have come in such a short time,embrace the staff,players stadium you now own. YOU also have a Theatre of DREAMS. .......... Q.. E... D pappaK
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11:53am Wed 12 Dec 12

SamPeters93 says...

We heard this a couple times now, believe it when we see it but it would be nice to have him back
We heard this a couple times now, believe it when we see it but it would be nice to have him back SamPeters93
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11:54am Wed 12 Dec 12

Gee Jay says...

Who?
Who? Gee Jay
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11:57am Wed 12 Dec 12

Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS) says...

smilingseagull wrote:
just glossing over the disapointment of Albion not signing a striker in the Jan window!

Of course I hope I am wrong and we have V back and a murrey esk striker on board.
My thoughts exactly. However, I'm typing this with a broad smile as I can't wait to see Vicente back in action - we're a different team with him in the side and I think we owe one or two of our competitors a bit of a spanking (one in particular!)
[quote][p][bold]smilingseagull[/bold] wrote: just glossing over the disapointment of Albion not signing a striker in the Jan window! Of course I hope I am wrong and we have V back and a murrey esk striker on board.[/p][/quote]My thoughts exactly. However, I'm typing this with a broad smile as I can't wait to see Vicente back in action - we're a different team with him in the side and I think we owe one or two of our competitors a bit of a spanking (one in particular!) Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
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12:12pm Wed 12 Dec 12

wole says...

Well it would be nice for him to play again just so another club can transfer him and have him on their wage bill.
No doubt about his talent and is by far the best in that league but he is taking the pi55 out of the club.
Well it would be nice for him to play again just so another club can transfer him and have him on their wage bill. No doubt about his talent and is by far the best in that league but he is taking the pi55 out of the club. wole
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12:16pm Wed 12 Dec 12

mark5 says...

I think it is cruel for the Argus to play these these pranks on us unsuspecting Albion fans, particularly on the lead up to Christmas!! Think it could have been reserved for April 1st, however I guess that would be too near the end of the season then and no one would be fooled!
I think it is cruel for the Argus to play these these pranks on us unsuspecting Albion fans, particularly on the lead up to Christmas!! Think it could have been reserved for April 1st, however I guess that would be too near the end of the season then and no one would be fooled! mark5
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12:18pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Bob! says...

BobbyLaverick wrote:
Catch 22 situation here. Vicente would more than likely have left by now but for his continuing injuries. This is good for us, because he is still in the squad. On the other hand, he is something of a financial liability to the club. He still draws wages, but his rare appearances make him of negligible value overall. Yes, he is a very good player to watch, a crowd attraction and pleaser. But at the end of the day, he is not exactly helping the club to better things.
As I understand it the guy is on a pay per play, so is not a large financial outlay for The Albion whilst he's not playing.

I hope we get to pay loads more to the guy, as that will mean he's playing!
[quote][p][bold]BobbyLaverick[/bold] wrote: Catch 22 situation here. Vicente would more than likely have left by now but for his continuing injuries. This is good for us, because he is still in the squad. On the other hand, he is something of a financial liability to the club. He still draws wages, but his rare appearances make him of negligible value overall. Yes, he is a very good player to watch, a crowd attraction and pleaser. But at the end of the day, he is not exactly helping the club to better things.[/p][/quote]As I understand it the guy is on a pay per play, so is not a large financial outlay for The Albion whilst he's not playing. I hope we get to pay loads more to the guy, as that will mean he's playing! Bob!
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12:22pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

wole wrote:
Well it would be nice for him to play again just so another club can transfer him and have him on their wage bill.
No doubt about his talent and is by far the best in that league but he is taking the pi55 out of the club.
Is he? Is he really? In what way? The guy is injured, FFS. Just because he's not got a plaster cast on or hobbling around on crutches does not mean he is fit to play. He is injured and will play when fit.
[quote][p][bold]wole[/bold] wrote: Well it would be nice for him to play again just so another club can transfer him and have him on their wage bill. No doubt about his talent and is by far the best in that league but he is taking the pi55 out of the club.[/p][/quote]Is he? Is he really? In what way? The guy is injured, FFS. Just because he's not got a plaster cast on or hobbling around on crutches does not mean he is fit to play. He is injured and will play when fit. Old Scrote of the Amex
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12:31pm Wed 12 Dec 12

tinker111 says...

April 1st joke but late ?????
April 1st joke but late ????? tinker111
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1:18pm Wed 12 Dec 12

VegasSeagull says...

I guess we can assume that the injury is now healed and now it's all about getting him back into condition, I doubt he could do the work Gus says that he is were the injury not dealt with.

There is no resale value to Brighton, he is not on contract after this season, so we must get all we can from him whilst he is here.

With the amount of matches he has missed so far, and the few he will miss as we run up to january, I would have torn up his contract but that's me and I don't manage the club.
Brighton are a better team with a fit Vicente than we are without him so I hope he can repay the patience both the fans and club have shown to him.

When a fit Vicente takes to the park he can raise the game of those around him, it will be interesting to see who benefits most, CMS, Hoskins and maybe Dobbie, I can see them two working well together.
I guess we can assume that the injury is now healed and now it's all about getting him back into condition, I doubt he could do the work Gus says that he is were the injury not dealt with. There is no resale value to Brighton, he is not on contract after this season, so we must get all we can from him whilst he is here. With the amount of matches he has missed so far, and the few he will miss as we run up to january, I would have torn up his contract but that's me and I don't manage the club. Brighton are a better team with a fit Vicente than we are without him so I hope he can repay the patience both the fans and club have shown to him. When a fit Vicente takes to the park he can raise the game of those around him, it will be interesting to see who benefits most, CMS, Hoskins and maybe Dobbie, I can see them two working well together. VegasSeagull
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1:28pm Wed 12 Dec 12

9 of us says...

“He has been training last week but with us I don’t know,” Poyet said. “He has been training more than he was a month ago.

I do wonder if this is actually what he said? Planet Pluto for sure as someone mentioned earlier.
“He has been training last week but with us I don’t know,” Poyet said. “He has been training more than he was a month ago. I do wonder if this is actually what he said? Planet Pluto for sure as someone mentioned earlier. 9 of us
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1:41pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Albion23 says...

If V incente is on way back to training wiwith the lads then lets be glad of it. One thing any sensible supporter knowa as had been said we are better for him in the side. Got som e tough games coming up.
If V incente is on way back to training wiwith the lads then lets be glad of it. One thing any sensible supporter knowa as had been said we are better for him in the side. Got som e tough games coming up. Albion23
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2:15pm Wed 12 Dec 12

saraman says...

And I will win the Spanish lottery next week. Vicente will not play again for The Albion again is my belief.
And I will win the Spanish lottery next week. Vicente will not play again for The Albion again is my belief. saraman
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2:19pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Carter_Cooldancer says...

Whatever!!!!
Whatever!!!! Carter_Cooldancer
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2:39pm Wed 12 Dec 12

saraman says...

Vicente aside. Is it my imagination in that we appear to get far more injuries since we moved to The Amex than we ever did at Withdene or The Goldstone? Maybe we have purchased or loaned far more already crocked players.
Vicente aside. Is it my imagination in that we appear to get far more injuries since we moved to The Amex than we ever did at Withdene or The Goldstone? Maybe we have purchased or loaned far more already crocked players. saraman
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2:39pm Wed 12 Dec 12

BobbyLaverick says...

Bob! wrote:
BobbyLaverick wrote:
Catch 22 situation here. Vicente would more than likely have left by now but for his continuing injuries. This is good for us, because he is still in the squad. On the other hand, he is something of a financial liability to the club. He still draws wages, but his rare appearances make him of negligible value overall. Yes, he is a very good player to watch, a crowd attraction and pleaser. But at the end of the day, he is not exactly helping the club to better things.
As I understand it the guy is on a pay per play, so is not a large financial outlay for The Albion whilst he's not playing.

I hope we get to pay loads more to the guy, as that will mean he's playing!
Pay per play? You're having a laugh aren't you? No way!
[quote][p][bold]Bob![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BobbyLaverick[/bold] wrote: Catch 22 situation here. Vicente would more than likely have left by now but for his continuing injuries. This is good for us, because he is still in the squad. On the other hand, he is something of a financial liability to the club. He still draws wages, but his rare appearances make him of negligible value overall. Yes, he is a very good player to watch, a crowd attraction and pleaser. But at the end of the day, he is not exactly helping the club to better things.[/p][/quote]As I understand it the guy is on a pay per play, so is not a large financial outlay for The Albion whilst he's not playing. I hope we get to pay loads more to the guy, as that will mean he's playing![/p][/quote]Pay per play? You're having a laugh aren't you? No way! BobbyLaverick
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2:44pm Wed 12 Dec 12

tug509 says...

To have a fully fit Vicente would be a massive boon to the team,but,and i hate myself for this,because im a cynic where this guy is concerned,i cant help but think if he returns,it would mainly be to put himself in the shop window for Elche or another club back in Spain. If he finished the season injured ,his options would be limited to say the least,personally i think he will finish the season with us strongly,which of course would make everyone happy. UTA
To have a fully fit Vicente would be a massive boon to the team,but,and i hate myself for this,because im a cynic where this guy is concerned,i cant help but think if he returns,it would mainly be to put himself in the shop window for Elche or another club back in Spain. If he finished the season injured ,his options would be limited to say the least,personally i think he will finish the season with us strongly,which of course would make everyone happy. UTA tug509
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3:03pm Wed 12 Dec 12

mr punch says...

whatever your opinions on Vicente and the whole shebang surrounding him I will be delighted to have him back. If it turns out to be for 3 games or 3 months I don't care. A class player that CAN make a difference. We wont but anyone in January and we all know it. Sure, we dont eally need anyone, just a bit more belief! UTA
whatever your opinions on Vicente and the whole shebang surrounding him I will be delighted to have him back. If it turns out to be for 3 games or 3 months I don't care. A class player that CAN make a difference. We wont but anyone in January and we all know it. Sure, we dont eally need anyone, just a bit more belief! UTA mr punch
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3:37pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Hovite says...

pappaK wrote:
A good Christmas present to those who wait VINCENTE.To all you guys and Girls out there .wish you all a Happy Christmas,I`m off home to OZ till Feb.In the New Year,may you all be Happy-Healthy-Tolere

nt-Understanding- Patient- and debate well without malice.I was not here when you were at Withdean.Stop for a minute and think how far you have come in such a short time,embrace the staff,players stadium you now own.
YOU also have a Theatre of DREAMS. .......... Q.. E... D
Off to Oz to play poker with Tony Bloom again?
[quote][p][bold]pappaK[/bold] wrote: A good Christmas present to those who wait VINCENTE.To all you guys and Girls out there .wish you all a Happy Christmas,I`m off home to OZ till Feb.In the New Year,may you all be Happy-Healthy-Tolere nt-Understanding- Patient- and debate well without malice.I was not here when you were at Withdean.Stop for a minute and think how far you have come in such a short time,embrace the staff,players stadium you now own. YOU also have a Theatre of DREAMS. .......... Q.. E... D[/p][/quote]Off to Oz to play poker with Tony Bloom again? Hovite
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4:00pm Wed 12 Dec 12

mark by the sea says...

He is raring to go, .... It's the Xmas birthday bash.. I suspect the abuse from fellow players is enough... Oatway calls it banter !
He is raring to go, .... It's the Xmas birthday bash.. I suspect the abuse from fellow players is enough... Oatway calls it banter ! mark by the sea
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4:18pm Wed 12 Dec 12

ballantrrae says...

BobbyLaverick wrote:
Bob! wrote:
BobbyLaverick wrote:
Catch 22 situation here. Vicente would more than likely have left by now but for his continuing injuries. This is good for us, because he is still in the squad. On the other hand, he is something of a financial liability to the club. He still draws wages, but his rare appearances make him of negligible value overall. Yes, he is a very good player to watch, a crowd attraction and pleaser. But at the end of the day, he is not exactly helping the club to better things.
As I understand it the guy is on a pay per play, so is not a large financial outlay for The Albion whilst he's not playing.

I hope we get to pay loads more to the guy, as that will mean he's playing!
Pay per play? You're having a laugh aren't you? No way!
I thought he was on a basic salary with add ons when he plays.
The good news is that he might be fit for the Newcastle game. Having seen his performance against Chelsea one would be delighted to see him back.
Still unsure whether we will get more than a few games from him - his body seems crocked.
[quote][p][bold]BobbyLaverick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BobbyLaverick[/bold] wrote: Catch 22 situation here. Vicente would more than likely have left by now but for his continuing injuries. This is good for us, because he is still in the squad. On the other hand, he is something of a financial liability to the club. He still draws wages, but his rare appearances make him of negligible value overall. Yes, he is a very good player to watch, a crowd attraction and pleaser. But at the end of the day, he is not exactly helping the club to better things.[/p][/quote]As I understand it the guy is on a pay per play, so is not a large financial outlay for The Albion whilst he's not playing. I hope we get to pay loads more to the guy, as that will mean he's playing![/p][/quote]Pay per play? You're having a laugh aren't you? No way![/p][/quote]I thought he was on a basic salary with add ons when he plays. The good news is that he might be fit for the Newcastle game. Having seen his performance against Chelsea one would be delighted to see him back. Still unsure whether we will get more than a few games from him - his body seems crocked. ballantrrae
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4:24pm Wed 12 Dec 12

JoeBlow says...

Sadly most people's opinions of Vicente's health seem to have been generated by the facile comments in the Argus rather than what the club have said all along.
Sadly most people's opinions of Vicente's health seem to have been generated by the facile comments in the Argus rather than what the club have said all along. JoeBlow
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4:52pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Hovite says...

Yes this is sadly the case JoeBlow, especially the mental health comments from the wums and trolls planting seeds of doubt and speculation for their own amusement.

Funny thing is, some fans beleive this tripe.

Good to know we are not alone in understanding this.
Yes this is sadly the case JoeBlow, especially the mental health comments from the wums and trolls planting seeds of doubt and speculation for their own amusement. Funny thing is, some fans beleive this tripe. Good to know we are not alone in understanding this. Hovite
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4:58pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Hovite says...

No offence to you genuine fans but some of you encourage these idiots by joining in with the stupid comments for them to feed off and polute the board.
No offence to you genuine fans but some of you encourage these idiots by joining in with the stupid comments for them to feed off and polute the board. Hovite
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5:17pm Wed 12 Dec 12

ballantrrae says...

JoeBlow wrote:
Sadly most people's opinions of Vicente's health seem to have been generated by the facile comments in the Argus rather than what the club have said all along.
I don't think it is the Argus's comments that really are the basis for many posters's views regarding Vicente's health.
Most of the news on Vicente's recovery from injury have originated from the Club both last season and this. The club clearly realises that his fitness is problematical and are doing their best to handle it.
Given his injury problems at the end of his time with Valencia and the relatively few appearances he has made for the Albion Vicente clearly has an ongoing problem in trying to maintain fitness.
This is a tragedy for him and most unfortunate for BHA. One must however applaud the club's efforts in trying to deal with the situation and get him back playing again. If the club succeeds it could benefit hugely.
In the meantime I hope the club can get Orlandi back playing again asap.
[quote][p][bold]JoeBlow[/bold] wrote: Sadly most people's opinions of Vicente's health seem to have been generated by the facile comments in the Argus rather than what the club have said all along.[/p][/quote]I don't think it is the Argus's comments that really are the basis for many posters's views regarding Vicente's health. Most of the news on Vicente's recovery from injury have originated from the Club both last season and this. The club clearly realises that his fitness is problematical and are doing their best to handle it. Given his injury problems at the end of his time with Valencia and the relatively few appearances he has made for the Albion Vicente clearly has an ongoing problem in trying to maintain fitness. This is a tragedy for him and most unfortunate for BHA. One must however applaud the club's efforts in trying to deal with the situation and get him back playing again. If the club succeeds it could benefit hugely. In the meantime I hope the club can get Orlandi back playing again asap. ballantrrae
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6:05pm Wed 12 Dec 12

VegasSeagull says...

Many of us have offered some harsh words regarding Vicente, not least of all yours truly, and some still do but, if the guy can get back playing then we should all get behind him.

I think Vicente might be closer to a come back than some of us think, I say this simply based on what Gus is saying, 'it doesn't need to be january it could be in december.'
As we all know the swimming pool is the best place to exercise because every part of your body gets a work out, you can't protect any area. Vicente is reported to be working in the pool and has been doing strength work and running, these must be good signs as to his full recovery.
Many of us have offered some harsh words regarding Vicente, not least of all yours truly, and some still do but, if the guy can get back playing then we should all get behind him. I think Vicente might be closer to a come back than some of us think, I say this simply based on what Gus is saying, 'it doesn't need to be january it could be in december.' As we all know the swimming pool is the best place to exercise because every part of your body gets a work out, you can't protect any area. Vicente is reported to be working in the pool and has been doing strength work and running, these must be good signs as to his full recovery. VegasSeagull
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6:11pm Wed 12 Dec 12

pablobrowno says...

The ironic thing is I'm pretty sure we picked up less points with V in the side last season than we did without him. One day I'll be boring enough to sit down and work it out......one day.

I'm not seriously suggesting that we wouldn't benefit from a fit V but merely pointing out that one swallow doesn't make a summer, and indeed one Vicente doesn't make a winning team! ;)
The ironic thing is I'm pretty sure we picked up less points with V in the side last season than we did without him. One day I'll be boring enough to sit down and work it out......one day. I'm not seriously suggesting that we wouldn't benefit from a fit V but merely pointing out that one swallow doesn't make a summer, and indeed one Vicente doesn't make a winning team! ;) pablobrowno
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6:33pm Wed 12 Dec 12

VegasSeagull says...

pablobrowno wrote:
The ironic thing is I'm pretty sure we picked up less points with V in the side last season than we did without him. One day I'll be boring enough to sit down and work it out......one day. I'm not seriously suggesting that we wouldn't benefit from a fit V but merely pointing out that one swallow doesn't make a summer, and indeed one Vicente doesn't make a winning team! ;)
You are probabaly right about the points thing but, this season we have better players than last, well we do IMHO.
As I said in an earlier post, it's how Vicente links up with the other players and what his abilities means to other's performances.
If Vicente can bring us the creative element that we seem to have been lacking we might see more goals.
[quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote: The ironic thing is I'm pretty sure we picked up less points with V in the side last season than we did without him. One day I'll be boring enough to sit down and work it out......one day. I'm not seriously suggesting that we wouldn't benefit from a fit V but merely pointing out that one swallow doesn't make a summer, and indeed one Vicente doesn't make a winning team! ;)[/p][/quote]You are probabaly right about the points thing but, this season we have better players than last, well we do IMHO. As I said in an earlier post, it's how Vicente links up with the other players and what his abilities means to other's performances. If Vicente can bring us the creative element that we seem to have been lacking we might see more goals. VegasSeagull
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6:39pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Hovite says...

Funny that pablobrowno; however you are suggesting that we wouldn't benefit from a fit V by suggesting it, whether seriously or not.

To suggest something is to suggest something full stop?
Funny that pablobrowno; however you are suggesting that we wouldn't benefit from a fit V by suggesting it, whether seriously or not. To suggest something is to suggest something full stop? Hovite
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6:56pm Wed 12 Dec 12

dave from bexill says...

pablobrowno wrote:
The ironic thing is I'm pretty sure we picked up less points with V in the side last season than we did without him. One day I'll be boring enough to sit down and work it out......one day.

I'm not seriously suggesting that we wouldn't benefit from a fit V but merely pointing out that one swallow doesn't make a summer, and indeed one Vicente doesn't make a winning team! ;)
One Vicente may not, as you say, make a winning team, but our team with a fit Vicente in it, surely has more chance of being a winning team.
[quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote: The ironic thing is I'm pretty sure we picked up less points with V in the side last season than we did without him. One day I'll be boring enough to sit down and work it out......one day. I'm not seriously suggesting that we wouldn't benefit from a fit V but merely pointing out that one swallow doesn't make a summer, and indeed one Vicente doesn't make a winning team! ;)[/p][/quote]One Vicente may not, as you say, make a winning team, but our team with a fit Vicente in it, surely has more chance of being a winning team. dave from bexill
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7:23pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Bucket feet Duffy says...

tug509 wrote:
To have a fully fit Vicente would be a massive boon to the team,but,and i hate myself for this,because im a cynic where this guy is concerned,i cant help but think if he returns,it would mainly be to put himself in the shop window for Elche or another club back in Spain. If he finished the season injured ,his options would be limited to say the least,personally i think he will finish the season with us strongly,which of course would make everyone happy. UTA
I kind of agree with this post, I also think the club may have come to a compromise in recent months over his family issues, which might explain the is he fit or not continuing saga, I think he will be available to play out the season as he was last, let's hope we finish strongly and reach the playoffs.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: To have a fully fit Vicente would be a massive boon to the team,but,and i hate myself for this,because im a cynic where this guy is concerned,i cant help but think if he returns,it would mainly be to put himself in the shop window for Elche or another club back in Spain. If he finished the season injured ,his options would be limited to say the least,personally i think he will finish the season with us strongly,which of course would make everyone happy. UTA[/p][/quote]I kind of agree with this post, I also think the club may have come to a compromise in recent months over his family issues, which might explain the is he fit or not continuing saga, I think he will be available to play out the season as he was last, let's hope we finish strongly and reach the playoffs. Bucket feet Duffy
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7:42pm Wed 12 Dec 12

hannover seagull says...

Bucket feet Duffy wrote:
tug509 wrote:
To have a fully fit Vicente would be a massive boon to the team,but,and i hate myself for this,because im a cynic where this guy is concerned,i cant help but think if he returns,it would mainly be to put himself in the shop window for Elche or another club back in Spain. If he finished the season injured ,his options would be limited to say the least,personally i think he will finish the season with us strongly,which of course would make everyone happy. UTA
I kind of agree with this post, I also think the club may have come to a compromise in recent months over his family issues, which might explain the is he fit or not continuing saga, I think he will be available to play out the season as he was last, let's hope we finish strongly and reach the playoffs.
Gus has said all along the guy is injured

Nothing more nothing less

Do you believe our managers statement of belief or not?
[quote][p][bold]Bucket feet Duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: To have a fully fit Vicente would be a massive boon to the team,but,and i hate myself for this,because im a cynic where this guy is concerned,i cant help but think if he returns,it would mainly be to put himself in the shop window for Elche or another club back in Spain. If he finished the season injured ,his options would be limited to say the least,personally i think he will finish the season with us strongly,which of course would make everyone happy. UTA[/p][/quote]I kind of agree with this post, I also think the club may have come to a compromise in recent months over his family issues, which might explain the is he fit or not continuing saga, I think he will be available to play out the season as he was last, let's hope we finish strongly and reach the playoffs.[/p][/quote]Gus has said all along the guy is injured Nothing more nothing less Do you believe our managers statement of belief or not? hannover seagull
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9:11pm Wed 12 Dec 12

barnieb says...

Rumour has it he will play wearing solar panels on his back
Rumour has it he will play wearing solar panels on his back barnieb
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9:31pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Ringmer Rich says...

Vicente is the king! Viva el rey!!
Vicente is the king! Viva el rey!! Ringmer Rich
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9:44pm Wed 12 Dec 12

weststandupperlacostearmy says...

Would rather have Jake back!
Would rather have Jake back! weststandupperlacostearmy
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11:15pm Wed 12 Dec 12

bhaforever says...

Newsflash evening argus have said sorry to thousands of albion fans today after they published the headlines VICENTE'S ON WAY BACK it was a misprint and should read VICENTE'S ON WAY BACK TO SPAIN
Newsflash evening argus have said sorry to thousands of albion fans today after they published the headlines VICENTE'S ON WAY BACK it was a misprint and should read VICENTE'S ON WAY BACK TO SPAIN bhaforever
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1:04am Thu 13 Dec 12

Freeloaders says...

He will play again soon im very sure.His the best player to ever play for the club by a million miles.
He will play again soon im very sure.His the best player to ever play for the club by a million miles. Freeloaders
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1:06am Thu 13 Dec 12

pablobrowno says...

Hovite wrote:
Funny that pablobrowno; however you are suggesting that we wouldn't benefit from a fit V by suggesting it, whether seriously or not.

To suggest something is to suggest something full stop?
Au contrare Hovite, I suggested we may not have benefited LAST year from a fully fit Vicente, indeed the points tally (probably) proves it. I repeat, I am NOT suggesting we wouldn't benefit from a fully fit Vicente THIS season.

Hope that clears it up for you!
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: Funny that pablobrowno; however you are suggesting that we wouldn't benefit from a fit V by suggesting it, whether seriously or not. To suggest something is to suggest something full stop?[/p][/quote]Au contrare Hovite, I suggested we may not have benefited LAST year from a fully fit Vicente, indeed the points tally (probably) proves it. I repeat, I am NOT suggesting we wouldn't benefit from a fully fit Vicente THIS season. Hope that clears it up for you! pablobrowno
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1:07am Thu 13 Dec 12

pablobrowno says...

Au contrare Hovite, I suggested we may not have benefited LAST year from a fully fit Vicente, indeed the points tally (probably) proves it. I repeat, I am NOT suggesting we wouldn't benefit from a fully fit Vicente THIS season.

Hope that clears it up for you!
Au contrare Hovite, I suggested we may not have benefited LAST year from a fully fit Vicente, indeed the points tally (probably) proves it. I repeat, I am NOT suggesting we wouldn't benefit from a fully fit Vicente THIS season. Hope that clears it up for you! pablobrowno
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7:57am Thu 13 Dec 12

mark by the sea says...

weststandupperlacost
earmy
wrote:
Would rather have Jake back!
Jake who? Another one who has woke up recently when about to be out of work..
[quote][p][bold]weststandupperlacost earmy[/bold] wrote: Would rather have Jake back![/p][/quote]Jake who? Another one who has woke up recently when about to be out of work.. mark by the sea
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4:45pm Thu 13 Dec 12

SicklySeagull says...

Reading between the lines it seems Gus has no real idea when or if Vicente will appear again in our colours,when you consider how little he played in the couple of seasons before he signed for us we cannot be very hopeful.
Reading between the lines it seems Gus has no real idea when or if Vicente will appear again in our colours,when you consider how little he played in the couple of seasons before he signed for us we cannot be very hopeful. SicklySeagull
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5:59pm Thu 13 Dec 12

VegasSeagull says...

SicklySeagull wrote:
Reading between the lines it seems Gus has no real idea when or if Vicente will appear again in our colours,when you consider how little he played in the couple of seasons before he signed for us we cannot be very hopeful.
My reading of what might be, 'between the lines,' is that perhaps Vicente is fitter than we think at this itme.

Gus says that it doesn't have to be january, maybe late december, that thinking has to come from his understanding of the fitness work Vicente is doing and the results of that work.
[quote][p][bold]SicklySeagull[/bold] wrote: Reading between the lines it seems Gus has no real idea when or if Vicente will appear again in our colours,when you consider how little he played in the couple of seasons before he signed for us we cannot be very hopeful.[/p][/quote]My reading of what might be, 'between the lines,' is that perhaps Vicente is fitter than we think at this itme. Gus says that it doesn't have to be january, maybe late december, that thinking has to come from his understanding of the fitness work Vicente is doing and the results of that work. VegasSeagull
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6:31pm Thu 13 Dec 12

sussexram40 says...

Rejoice. Tis the season to be merry.
The Spanish genius is on his way back at last. Could make all the difference for a late play off surge.
Rejoice. Tis the season to be merry. The Spanish genius is on his way back at last. Could make all the difference for a late play off surge. sussexram40
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10:35am Tue 18 Dec 12

GosportGull says...

weststandupperlacost
earmy
wrote:
Would rather have Jake back!
Me too ..but be nice to have both ...GG
[quote][p][bold]weststandupperlacost earmy[/bold] wrote: Would rather have Jake back![/p][/quote]Me too ..but be nice to have both ...GG GosportGull
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