Ulloa deal hinges on passport

Wayne Bridge celebrates scoring against Ipswich yesterday. Picture by Simon Dack

Wayne Bridge celebrates scoring against Ipswich yesterday. Picture by Simon Dack

First published in Sport by , Chief sports reporter

Albion boss Gus Poyet is “praying” Leonardo Ulloa can get a Spanish passport so that he can sign the Argentinian striker.

The Argus revealed yesterday Almeria marksman Ulloa was a target for the Seagulls in August and is again now that the January transfer window has opened.

The powerful 26-year-old has been in Spain long enough to qualify for dual nationality but unless the passport issue is resolved Albion cannot, under UK immigration legislation, get a work permit for Ulloa to play for them.

Poyet told The Argus: “It’s the main part, because we cannot do anything until he becomes European. It doesn’t matter how much you move or do or how much you want him if he doesn’t qualify to play in England.

“We don’t know how long it will take. The same thing happened in August. We are just praying that he can get the passport tomorrow and then we can move quickly and maybe have a chance to get him. If not we will have to move for somebody else and the danger is you can lose those options, so it’s a bit tricky but I hope we are going to get one (striker). We need to, we have to.

“I think we have got or three great options. It could be a week, or ten days or the 30th of January. I would like it to be Saturday (Newcastle in the FA Cup) but sometimes you don’t know. But it’s close, I think very close.”

Albion, meanwhile, have received no offers so far for star players like Craig Mackail-Smith, who scored along with Dean Hammond and Wayne Bridge in yesterday’s 3-0 win at Ipswich.

Poyet said: “People are asking me continually when somebody is going to leave. I am surprised because nobody has made an offer or approach.”

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9:37am Wed 2 Jan 13

Alan G Skinner says...

Good this is what we want. The Striker in and no key players out.
Good this is what we want. The Striker in and no key players out. Alan G Skinner
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9:54am Wed 2 Jan 13

seagullsays says...

I don't know how these things work, but I wonder why he hasn't sorted out the passport issue in the last few months. If it was the only thing stopping the deal in August, that indicates he's keen to come us (or at least expand his options), so why is this still an issue? Anyone any ideas?

Goalscoring ratio is certainly decent, and at 6foot plus, fits the bill physically. Hope it gets done.
I don't know how these things work, but I wonder why he hasn't sorted out the passport issue in the last few months. If it was the only thing stopping the deal in August, that indicates he's keen to come us (or at least expand his options), so why is this still an issue? Anyone any ideas? Goalscoring ratio is certainly decent, and at 6foot plus, fits the bill physically. Hope it gets done. seagullsays
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9:55am Wed 2 Jan 13

heathgate says...

65 goals in 150 spanish 2nd division is not too shabby, and with his physique we could be onto a winner,... as long as he can cope with the poor weather in the Uk!!??
65 goals in 150 spanish 2nd division is not too shabby, and with his physique we could be onto a winner,... as long as he can cope with the poor weather in the Uk!!?? heathgate
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9:59am Wed 2 Jan 13

Seagullkid says...

this is what we don't need can't get passport in 5 months so no chance of getting one in a week is there!
and like before if we hang on to this hope the other choices we are after would have gone.
gus move on and get the others and if this pulls of even better but don't lose the other targets because of this.
this is what we don't need can't get passport in 5 months so no chance of getting one in a week is there! and like before if we hang on to this hope the other choices we are after would have gone. gus move on and get the others and if this pulls of even better but don't lose the other targets because of this. Seagullkid
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10:06am Wed 2 Jan 13

hannover seagull says...

Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present

what would we get here for that money?

Thoughts anyone

UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present what would we get here for that money? Thoughts anyone UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,, hannover seagull
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10:07am Wed 2 Jan 13

mickygullhove says...

well done gus,you have been promissing us a top striker for over a year now, and at last you have found one. he is a spanish second division player, but wait a minute he has,nt got a passport, and not likely to get one. what a great piece of work by gus and his backroom boys. I bet he will score a load of goals for us in spain.
well done gus,you have been promissing us a top striker for over a year now, and at last you have found one. he is a spanish second division player, but wait a minute he has,nt got a passport, and not likely to get one. what a great piece of work by gus and his backroom boys. I bet he will score a load of goals for us in spain. mickygullhove
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10:18am Wed 2 Jan 13

Alfie T says...

mickygullhove wrote:
well done gus,you have been promissing us a top striker for over a year now, and at last you have found one. he is a spanish second division player, but wait a minute he has,nt got a passport, and not likely to get one. what a great piece of work by gus and his backroom boys. I bet he will score a load of goals for us in spain.
Unlikely to get a passport, you seem we'll informed, please tell us more!
[quote][p][bold]mickygullhove[/bold] wrote: well done gus,you have been promissing us a top striker for over a year now, and at last you have found one. he is a spanish second division player, but wait a minute he has,nt got a passport, and not likely to get one. what a great piece of work by gus and his backroom boys. I bet he will score a load of goals for us in spain.[/p][/quote]Unlikely to get a passport, you seem we'll informed, please tell us more! Alfie T
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10:38am Wed 2 Jan 13

sloughseagull says...

Reading between the lines he is just waiting for the paperwork to clear, this will be done and dusted this week and as Gus has said he is hoping to have him in the country for Newcastle but it might be a bit later. Why would a professional club like he Albion talk about a player they have been chasing since August if there was no hope. Expect the arrival announcement pretty soon.
Reading between the lines he is just waiting for the paperwork to clear, this will be done and dusted this week and as Gus has said he is hoping to have him in the country for Newcastle but it might be a bit later. Why would a professional club like he Albion talk about a player they have been chasing since August if there was no hope. Expect the arrival announcement pretty soon. sloughseagull
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10:40am Wed 2 Jan 13

fratsomrover says...

All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing ! Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised ! fratsomrover
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10:45am Wed 2 Jan 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present

what would we get here for that money?

Thoughts anyone

UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Valued by whom?
[quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present what would we get here for that money? Thoughts anyone UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,[/p][/quote]Valued by whom? Old Scrote of the Amex
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10:49am Wed 2 Jan 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !
Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing ! Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised ![/p][/quote]Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it? Old Scrote of the Amex
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10:55am Wed 2 Jan 13

Alfie T says...

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !
Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?
Agreed,Fratsomrover has to be one of the most negative & pessimistic posters on here. Perhaps a change of club is needed, try Gillingham or Crawley.
[quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing ! Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised ![/p][/quote]Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?[/p][/quote]Agreed,Fratsomrover has to be one of the most negative & pessimistic posters on here. Perhaps a change of club is needed, try Gillingham or Crawley. Alfie T
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10:58am Wed 2 Jan 13

hannover seagull says...

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present

what would we get here for that money?

Thoughts anyone

UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Valued by whom?
Transfermarkt.co.uk/
ulloa

Independent valuation of footballers
[quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present what would we get here for that money? Thoughts anyone UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,[/p][/quote]Valued by whom?[/p][/quote]Transfermarkt.co.uk/ ulloa Independent valuation of footballers hannover seagull
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11:04am Wed 2 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Haven't you got more important things to worry about fratsomrover? Is this comment just your attempt to spread doubt and concern about the way the club is being run? It's a little premature to start moaning and jumping to conclusions.

Ahh, I forgot it is Panto season.

Is this really a lttle odd?

Oh no it isn't!
Haven't you got more important things to worry about fratsomrover? Is this comment just your attempt to spread doubt and concern about the way the club is being run? It's a little premature to start moaning and jumping to conclusions. Ahh, I forgot it is Panto season. Is this really a lttle odd? Oh no it isn't! Hovite
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11:10am Wed 2 Jan 13

mark by the sea says...

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !
Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?
The point would be, Gus has been tipped off by probably the old scout zigic I think his name is, and club have kept eye on him, not sure how things work regarding passports etc, however clearly the 5 year part of his living in Europe is now done, and the Spanish control need to get there finger out, I would imagine someone has been paid to expedite matters, and he is on his way over.. I would imagine 2 million is euros? And club less than that , and payments subject to goals etc, also a sell on clause that Spanish clubs love.
[quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing ! Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised ![/p][/quote]Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?[/p][/quote]The point would be, Gus has been tipped off by probably the old scout zigic I think his name is, and club have kept eye on him, not sure how things work regarding passports etc, however clearly the 5 year part of his living in Europe is now done, and the Spanish control need to get there finger out, I would imagine someone has been paid to expedite matters, and he is on his way over.. I would imagine 2 million is euros? And club less than that , and payments subject to goals etc, also a sell on clause that Spanish clubs love. mark by the sea
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11:12am Wed 2 Jan 13

fratsomrover says...

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !
Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?
My scouting days were many years back now and it was Arsenal who were the main beneficiaries. Still that's another story. I've always been an Albion supporter and always will be and I dont see why my realistic views should be deemed negative. I just stated a fact that Almeira have failed to score in 9 of their last 12 matches. Maybe Ulloa wasn't even playing ??
[quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing ! Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised ![/p][/quote]Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?[/p][/quote]My scouting days were many years back now and it was Arsenal who were the main beneficiaries. Still that's another story. I've always been an Albion supporter and always will be and I dont see why my realistic views should be deemed negative. I just stated a fact that Almeira have failed to score in 9 of their last 12 matches. Maybe Ulloa wasn't even playing ?? fratsomrover
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11:15am Wed 2 Jan 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

hannover seagull wrote:
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present

what would we get here for that money?

Thoughts anyone

UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Valued by whom?
Transfermarkt.co.uk/

ulloa

Independent valuation of footballers
Interesting site, but they value CMS at £2.2-2.5m, Buckley at £1.3-1.5m and, most ridiculously, Bridcutt at £650-750k. Their formulae/algorithms need some tweaking!
[quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present what would we get here for that money? Thoughts anyone UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,[/p][/quote]Valued by whom?[/p][/quote]Transfermarkt.co.uk/ ulloa Independent valuation of footballers[/p][/quote]Interesting site, but they value CMS at £2.2-2.5m, Buckley at £1.3-1.5m and, most ridiculously, Bridcutt at £650-750k. Their formulae/algorithms need some tweaking! Old Scrote of the Amex
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11:16am Wed 2 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Yeah cub scouts, Dib Dib Dib Dob Dob Dob
Yeah cub scouts, Dib Dib Dib Dob Dob Dob Hovite
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11:19am Wed 2 Jan 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

fratsomrover wrote:
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !
Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?
My scouting days were many years back now and it was Arsenal who were the main beneficiaries. Still that's another story. I've always been an Albion supporter and always will be and I dont see why my realistic views should be deemed negative. I just stated a fact that Almeira have failed to score in 9 of their last 12 matches. Maybe Ulloa wasn't even playing ??
I'm not sure that saying "not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship" can be seen as anything other than moderately negative. Do you not think Gus and his staff have sussed him out and think he probably IS good enough for the Championship? They don't just go down a list of foreign players and say "We'll have that one".
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing ! Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised ![/p][/quote]Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?[/p][/quote]My scouting days were many years back now and it was Arsenal who were the main beneficiaries. Still that's another story. I've always been an Albion supporter and always will be and I dont see why my realistic views should be deemed negative. I just stated a fact that Almeira have failed to score in 9 of their last 12 matches. Maybe Ulloa wasn't even playing ??[/p][/quote]I'm not sure that saying "not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship" can be seen as anything other than moderately negative. Do you not think Gus and his staff have sussed him out and think he probably IS good enough for the Championship? They don't just go down a list of foreign players and say "We'll have that one". Old Scrote of the Amex
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11:23am Wed 2 Jan 13

hannover seagull says...

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
hannover seagull wrote:
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present

what would we get here for that money?

Thoughts anyone

UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Valued by whom?
Transfermarkt.co.uk/


ulloa

Independent valuation of footballers
Interesting site, but they value CMS at £2.2-2.5m, Buckley at £1.3-1.5m and, most ridiculously, Bridcutt at £650-750k. Their formulae/algorithms need some tweaking!
Agreed
[quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present what would we get here for that money? Thoughts anyone UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,[/p][/quote]Valued by whom?[/p][/quote]Transfermarkt.co.uk/ ulloa Independent valuation of footballers[/p][/quote]Interesting site, but they value CMS at £2.2-2.5m, Buckley at £1.3-1.5m and, most ridiculously, Bridcutt at £650-750k. Their formulae/algorithms need some tweaking![/p][/quote]Agreed hannover seagull
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11:30am Wed 2 Jan 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

hannover seagull wrote:
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
hannover seagull wrote:
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present

what would we get here for that money?

Thoughts anyone

UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Valued by whom?
Transfermarkt.co.uk/



ulloa

Independent valuation of footballers
Interesting site, but they value CMS at £2.2-2.5m, Buckley at £1.3-1.5m and, most ridiculously, Bridcutt at £650-750k. Their formulae/algorithms need some tweaking!
Agreed
So, in answer to your original question "what would we get here for that money?", I'm guessing... Wayne Rooney? RvP? Maybe both!
[quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present what would we get here for that money? Thoughts anyone UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,[/p][/quote]Valued by whom?[/p][/quote]Transfermarkt.co.uk/ ulloa Independent valuation of footballers[/p][/quote]Interesting site, but they value CMS at £2.2-2.5m, Buckley at £1.3-1.5m and, most ridiculously, Bridcutt at £650-750k. Their formulae/algorithms need some tweaking![/p][/quote]Agreed[/p][/quote]So, in answer to your original question "what would we get here for that money?", I'm guessing... Wayne Rooney? RvP? Maybe both! Old Scrote of the Amex
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11:32am Wed 2 Jan 13

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
fratsomrover wrote: All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing ! Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !
Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?
My scouting days were many years back now and it was Arsenal who were the main beneficiaries. Still that's another story. I've always been an Albion supporter and always will be and I dont see why my realistic views should be deemed negative. I just stated a fact that Almeira have failed to score in 9 of their last 12 matches. Maybe Ulloa wasn't even playing ??
I'm not sure that saying "not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship" can be seen as anything other than moderately negative. Do you not think Gus and his staff have sussed him out and think he probably IS good enough for the Championship? They don't just go down a list of foreign players and say "We'll have that one".
Well, Scrote, when Sandaza was signed Gus referred to a long list of potential strikers and they had to scroll well down it before a player (Sandaza) said yes. And he was a raging success, wasn't he (like some others)?

So, we can all hope but we'll see in due course, assuming the passport issue can suddenly be resolved.
[quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing ! Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised ![/p][/quote]Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?[/p][/quote]My scouting days were many years back now and it was Arsenal who were the main beneficiaries. Still that's another story. I've always been an Albion supporter and always will be and I dont see why my realistic views should be deemed negative. I just stated a fact that Almeira have failed to score in 9 of their last 12 matches. Maybe Ulloa wasn't even playing ??[/p][/quote]I'm not sure that saying "not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship" can be seen as anything other than moderately negative. Do you not think Gus and his staff have sussed him out and think he probably IS good enough for the Championship? They don't just go down a list of foreign players and say "We'll have that one".[/p][/quote]Well, Scrote, when Sandaza was signed Gus referred to a long list of potential strikers and they had to scroll well down it before a player (Sandaza) said yes. And he was a raging success, wasn't he (like some others)? So, we can all hope but we'll see in due course, assuming the passport issue can suddenly be resolved. Willie, Willie Irvine
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11:43am Wed 2 Jan 13

mickygullhove says...

alfie t. this player could not get a passport last august when gus wanted to sign him, thats nearly 6 months ago, so what gives you the idea he can get passport in the very near future. maybe we can sign him by next august.
alfie t. this player could not get a passport last august when gus wanted to sign him, thats nearly 6 months ago, so what gives you the idea he can get passport in the very near future. maybe we can sign him by next august. mickygullhove
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11:44am Wed 2 Jan 13

Alfie T says...

fratsomrover wrote:
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !
Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?
My scouting days were many years back now and it was Arsenal who were the main beneficiaries. Still that's another story. I've always been an Albion supporter and always will be and I dont see why my realistic views should be deemed negative. I just stated a fact that Almeira have failed to score in 9 of their last 12 matches. Maybe Ulloa wasn't even playing ??
Just give the "glass half full" approach a try, don't write the guy off before he's even signed. Almeria I'm reliably informed are a decent side, second division perhaps, but if they are following the Spanish footballing resurgence then who knows.
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing ! Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised ![/p][/quote]Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?[/p][/quote]My scouting days were many years back now and it was Arsenal who were the main beneficiaries. Still that's another story. I've always been an Albion supporter and always will be and I dont see why my realistic views should be deemed negative. I just stated a fact that Almeira have failed to score in 9 of their last 12 matches. Maybe Ulloa wasn't even playing ??[/p][/quote]Just give the "glass half full" approach a try, don't write the guy off before he's even signed. Almeria I'm reliably informed are a decent side, second division perhaps, but if they are following the Spanish footballing resurgence then who knows. Alfie T
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11:56am Wed 2 Jan 13

BobbyZamoraIsALegend says...

Sign him up, get it done Gus, get rid of the two holding midfielders, 2 up top at home and make the AMEX a fortress....simples ;-)
Sign him up, get it done Gus, get rid of the two holding midfielders, 2 up top at home and make the AMEX a fortress....simples ;-) BobbyZamoraIsALegend
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12:00pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Tommy from the Amex says...

fratsomrover wrote:
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !
Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?
My scouting days were many years back now and it was Arsenal who were the main beneficiaries. Still that's another story. I've always been an Albion supporter and always will be and I dont see why my realistic views should be deemed negative. I just stated a fact that Almeira have failed to score in 9 of their last 12 matches. Maybe Ulloa wasn't even playing ??
How come negative people always try saying I am being realistic to cover up their negativity ?
Also if you were a scout then surely being a good scout involves taking a player from a slightly lower level who you think in your opinion has the ability to succeed at a higher level ??? So why diss the fact that he plays in the Spanish second tier ???
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing ! Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised ![/p][/quote]Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?[/p][/quote]My scouting days were many years back now and it was Arsenal who were the main beneficiaries. Still that's another story. I've always been an Albion supporter and always will be and I dont see why my realistic views should be deemed negative. I just stated a fact that Almeira have failed to score in 9 of their last 12 matches. Maybe Ulloa wasn't even playing ??[/p][/quote]How come negative people always try saying I am being realistic to cover up their negativity ? Also if you were a scout then surely being a good scout involves taking a player from a slightly lower level who you think in your opinion has the ability to succeed at a higher level ??? So why diss the fact that he plays in the Spanish second tier ??? Tommy from the Amex
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12:04pm Wed 2 Jan 13

mikeygit says...

I live in Spain--and they just LOVE paperwork, so I hope IF he is to get his passport he is some way down the process otherwise it could take some time--usually have to apply to Madrid and you cannot turn up at the offices there--all has to be done by post. NOT being pesimistic, just saying it as it is.
Also I hope second division in Spain is not second class striker. Fingers crossed all round!!!
I live in Spain--and they just LOVE paperwork, so I hope IF he is to get his passport he is some way down the process otherwise it could take some time--usually have to apply to Madrid and you cannot turn up at the offices there--all has to be done by post. NOT being pesimistic, just saying it as it is. Also I hope second division in Spain is not second class striker. Fingers crossed all round!!! mikeygit
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12:27pm Wed 2 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present what would we get here for that money? Thoughts anyone UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,
my muisses
[quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present what would we get here for that money? Thoughts anyone UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,[/p][/quote]my muisses VegasSeagull
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12:27pm Wed 2 Jan 13

sussexram40 says...

Find somebody else now is my advice.
It all sounds very uncertain and if we hang on till mid January all the other possibilities will have been snapped up.
Find somebody else now is my advice. It all sounds very uncertain and if we hang on till mid January all the other possibilities will have been snapped up. sussexram40
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12:30pm Wed 2 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

seagullsays wrote:
I don't know how these things work, but I wonder why he hasn't sorted out the passport issue in the last few months. If it was the only thing stopping the deal in August, that indicates he's keen to come us (or at least expand his options), so why is this still an issue? Anyone any ideas? Goalscoring ratio is certainly decent, and at 6foot plus, fits the bill physically. Hope it gets done.
Someone on here explained it to me yesterday, it would seem that the guy is four months short of the required time that he has to live in Spain before he can get a passport.

I will find the comment and guide you to it, it's on one of the threads.
[quote][p][bold]seagullsays[/bold] wrote: I don't know how these things work, but I wonder why he hasn't sorted out the passport issue in the last few months. If it was the only thing stopping the deal in August, that indicates he's keen to come us (or at least expand his options), so why is this still an issue? Anyone any ideas? Goalscoring ratio is certainly decent, and at 6foot plus, fits the bill physically. Hope it gets done.[/p][/quote]Someone on here explained it to me yesterday, it would seem that the guy is four months short of the required time that he has to live in Spain before he can get a passport. I will find the comment and guide you to it, it's on one of the threads. VegasSeagull
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12:40pm Wed 2 Jan 13

fan since 61 says...

It seems to me that this striker issue has come at the right time for all you knockers, after Ipswich you seemed stuck for words
It seems to me that this striker issue has come at the right time for all you knockers, after Ipswich you seemed stuck for words fan since 61
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12:40pm Wed 2 Jan 13

tug509 says...

fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !
Im as optomistic as they get,but he has scored 4 times this season,and is 5`11``,and 11st 8lb,not the big target man we were looking for,so presumably he is the second stiker and not Gus` first choice?...UTA
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing ! Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised ![/p][/quote]Im as optomistic as they get,but he has scored 4 times this season,and is 5`11``,and 11st 8lb,not the big target man we were looking for,so presumably he is the second stiker and not Gus` first choice?...UTA tug509
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12:44pm Wed 2 Jan 13

BobbyLaverick says...

Please, please Mr Poyet, persevere, pressurise and petition parliamentary people/prime minister for the passport. Poor players present problems that plague passionate public popularity, predominantly when perusing playbacks of pitchplay and passing pithy phrases in posts. Potential playmakers please most posters, by placating planks from posting, period.
Please, please Mr Poyet, persevere, pressurise and petition parliamentary people/prime minister for the passport. Poor players present problems that plague passionate public popularity, predominantly when perusing playbacks of pitchplay and passing pithy phrases in posts. Potential playmakers please most posters, by placating planks from posting, period. BobbyLaverick
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12:49pm Wed 2 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

There have been several postings on here in recent times calling for Gus to look in the lower home divisions to find a striker, and that might be a good idea.
If this guy is playing in spanish div 2, and if some think that that division equates to our div one, I don't see a problem.

It all sounds a tad elitetist to say that a player from spanish div two is not up to our standard, just who do you think we are? The guy is being marked down as a failure and he hasn't even pulled on the stripes as of yet.
There have been several postings on here in recent times calling for Gus to look in the lower home divisions to find a striker, and that might be a good idea. If this guy is playing in spanish div 2, and if some think that that division equates to our div one, I don't see a problem. It all sounds a tad elitetist to say that a player from spanish div two is not up to our standard, just who do you think we are? The guy is being marked down as a failure and he hasn't even pulled on the stripes as of yet. VegasSeagull
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12:51pm Wed 2 Jan 13

tinker111 says...

mickygullhove wrote:
well done gus,you have been promissing us a top striker for over a year now, and at last you have found one. he is a spanish second division player, but wait a minute he has,nt got a passport, and not likely to get one. what a great piece of work by gus and his backroom boys. I bet he will score a load of goals for us in spain.
WELL SAID
[quote][p][bold]mickygullhove[/bold] wrote: well done gus,you have been promissing us a top striker for over a year now, and at last you have found one. he is a spanish second division player, but wait a minute he has,nt got a passport, and not likely to get one. what a great piece of work by gus and his backroom boys. I bet he will score a load of goals for us in spain.[/p][/quote]WELL SAID tinker111
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12:52pm Wed 2 Jan 13

tinker111 says...

mickygullhove wrote:
well done gus,you have been promissing us a top striker for over a year now, and at last you have found one. he is a spanish second division player, but wait a minute he has,nt got a passport, and not likely to get one. what a great piece of work by gus and his backroom boys. I bet he will score a load of goals for us in spain.
WELL SAID
[quote][p][bold]mickygullhove[/bold] wrote: well done gus,you have been promissing us a top striker for over a year now, and at last you have found one. he is a spanish second division player, but wait a minute he has,nt got a passport, and not likely to get one. what a great piece of work by gus and his backroom boys. I bet he will score a load of goals for us in spain.[/p][/quote]WELL SAID tinker111
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12:56pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Hovite says...

OH NO IT ISN'T
OH NO IT ISN'T Hovite
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1:01pm Wed 2 Jan 13

tug509 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
There have been several postings on here in recent times calling for Gus to look in the lower home divisions to find a striker, and that might be a good idea.
If this guy is playing in spanish div 2, and if some think that that division equates to our div one, I don't see a problem.

It all sounds a tad elitetist to say that a player from spanish div two is not up to our standard, just who do you think we are? The guy is being marked down as a failure and he hasn't even pulled on the stripes as of yet.
Hi Vegas,im not sure if people are dismissive of this guy,but think that on top of the paperwork issues,he is the 3rd highest scorer at Almeria,would you spend the clubs money on 3rd best?.

As i already said ,he is not the big strong target man Gus has been talking about for over a year. people on here have regularly stated their belief that certain players we have bought were a waste of money,and it is understandable that we dont repeat that mistake!.

Also if this guy is that good ,how come he hasn`t been picked up by a bigger club in Spain in the last 5 years?. I agree with some of the above,we need to get our targets that ARE available,before we miss out again!!. UTA
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: There have been several postings on here in recent times calling for Gus to look in the lower home divisions to find a striker, and that might be a good idea. If this guy is playing in spanish div 2, and if some think that that division equates to our div one, I don't see a problem. It all sounds a tad elitetist to say that a player from spanish div two is not up to our standard, just who do you think we are? The guy is being marked down as a failure and he hasn't even pulled on the stripes as of yet.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas,im not sure if people are dismissive of this guy,but think that on top of the paperwork issues,he is the 3rd highest scorer at Almeria,would you spend the clubs money on 3rd best?. As i already said ,he is not the big strong target man Gus has been talking about for over a year. people on here have regularly stated their belief that certain players we have bought were a waste of money,and it is understandable that we dont repeat that mistake!. Also if this guy is that good ,how come he hasn`t been picked up by a bigger club in Spain in the last 5 years?. I agree with some of the above,we need to get our targets that ARE available,before we miss out again!!. UTA tug509
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1:06pm Wed 2 Jan 13

pjwilk says...

Do what the illegal imigrants do ,just come,no money or job necessary.
Do what the illegal imigrants do ,just come,no money or job necessary. pjwilk
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1:16pm Wed 2 Jan 13

CAKEBEARD says...

mickygullhove wrote:
well done gus,you have been promissing us a top striker for over a year now, and at last you have found one. he is a spanish second division player, but wait a minute he has,nt got a passport, and not likely to get one. what a great piece of work by gus and his backroom boys. I bet he will score a load of goals for us in spain.
Yes, a dangerous game and not like he's proven at top level! we'll probably end up scraping the barrel!
[quote][p][bold]mickygullhove[/bold] wrote: well done gus,you have been promissing us a top striker for over a year now, and at last you have found one. he is a spanish second division player, but wait a minute he has,nt got a passport, and not likely to get one. what a great piece of work by gus and his backroom boys. I bet he will score a load of goals for us in spain.[/p][/quote]Yes, a dangerous game and not like he's proven at top level! we'll probably end up scraping the barrel! CAKEBEARD
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1:17pm Wed 2 Jan 13

pjwilk says...

He is not that good or that big or that young,but maybe he fits in with our passing style(oh dear)
He is not that good or that big or that young,but maybe he fits in with our passing style(oh dear) pjwilk
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1:20pm Wed 2 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

For those that, 'KNOW,' that this guy is not good enough to play for Brighton, those that are so clever they don't even have to see him play to tell Gus he should look elsewhere, I have a question for you and it is this;

Does your vast inteligence tell you that the wheel was invented, do you KNOW this for a fact, if you do, you are WRONG, the wheel was never invented or discovered.

Those of us with minds capable of flexible thinking indeed do KNOW what was invented, it was a circle, and one of the attributes of a circle is that it can be turned into a wheel.

When the time comes that those that KNOW so much, can offer comments that are based on open minded thinking rather than dogmatic assumptions, when that happens, then they can tell us whether this player is right or wrong for Brighton, and say why.

Untill that day comes I will leave them to carry on KNOWING that the wheel was invented and I will continue to treat their knowledge with the contempt it deserves.
For those that, 'KNOW,' that this guy is not good enough to play for Brighton, those that are so clever they don't even have to see him play to tell Gus he should look elsewhere, I have a question for you and it is this; Does your vast inteligence tell you that the wheel was invented, do you KNOW this for a fact, if you do, you are WRONG, the wheel was never invented or discovered. Those of us with minds capable of flexible thinking indeed do KNOW what was invented, it was a circle, and one of the attributes of a circle is that it can be turned into a wheel. When the time comes that those that KNOW so much, can offer comments that are based on open minded thinking rather than dogmatic assumptions, when that happens, then they can tell us whether this player is right or wrong for Brighton, and say why. Untill that day comes I will leave them to carry on KNOWING that the wheel was invented and I will continue to treat their knowledge with the contempt it deserves. VegasSeagull
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1:23pm Wed 2 Jan 13

russellsnr2 says...

Hi, Sorry but do you really think that Gus and Mr Bloom would spend the money on a player if he was not up to what they want from a player?
They must also no that a passport is on the horizon or they would not be wasting there time.
The problem is IMO that we have been saying for sometime that we need a striker and a quality one at that and as supporters we kind of go into free fall with dreams of a big name or names coming to the club. We have to step back and look at how far we have come as a club over the last three years and big name players will come to play for the club but not just yet we are not really in the roll of things a big club yet but we will get there and when we do that is when really big names will come to play for us, (1) because we will be able to afford the wages (2) we will be a premiership club (3) We will be playing in Europe, but this all takes time and money. So be patient because as they say "All good things come to those who wait".
Hi, Sorry but do you really think that Gus and Mr Bloom would spend the money on a player if he was not up to what they want from a player? They must also no that a passport is on the horizon or they would not be wasting there time. The problem is IMO that we have been saying for sometime that we need a striker and a quality one at that and as supporters we kind of go into free fall with dreams of a big name or names coming to the club. We have to step back and look at how far we have come as a club over the last three years and big name players will come to play for the club but not just yet we are not really in the roll of things a big club yet but we will get there and when we do that is when really big names will come to play for us, (1) because we will be able to afford the wages (2) we will be a premiership club (3) We will be playing in Europe, but this all takes time and money. So be patient because as they say "All good things come to those who wait". russellsnr2
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1:24pm Wed 2 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

The comment posted that helped me understand the passport issue for this guy is very near the end of the "clinical,' thread.
The comment posted that helped me understand the passport issue for this guy is very near the end of the "clinical,' thread. VegasSeagull
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1:35pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

russellsnr2 wrote:
Hi, Sorry but do you really think that Gus and Mr Bloom would spend the money on a player if he was not up to what they want from a player? They must also no that a passport is on the horizon or they would not be wasting there time. The problem is IMO that we have been saying for sometime that we need a striker and a quality one at that and as supporters we kind of go into free fall with dreams of a big name or names coming to the club. We have to step back and look at how far we have come as a club over the last three years and big name players will come to play for the club but not just yet we are not really in the roll of things a big club yet but we will get there and when we do that is when really big names will come to play for us, (1) because we will be able to afford the wages (2) we will be a premiership club (3) We will be playing in Europe, but this all takes time and money. So be patient because as they say "All good things come to those who wait".
Holroyd, Sandaza, Harley et al...up to it?

I think there is just cause for some to be less than overflowing with confidence when Albion go to the market. And by the way, Gus himself said he was near a big name just before Christmas - and even you seem to agree this isn't it.

I certainly hope we get it right, whoever is bought, but from acquisitions over the last two years that could be something of a lottery..
[quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: Hi, Sorry but do you really think that Gus and Mr Bloom would spend the money on a player if he was not up to what they want from a player? They must also no that a passport is on the horizon or they would not be wasting there time. The problem is IMO that we have been saying for sometime that we need a striker and a quality one at that and as supporters we kind of go into free fall with dreams of a big name or names coming to the club. We have to step back and look at how far we have come as a club over the last three years and big name players will come to play for the club but not just yet we are not really in the roll of things a big club yet but we will get there and when we do that is when really big names will come to play for us, (1) because we will be able to afford the wages (2) we will be a premiership club (3) We will be playing in Europe, but this all takes time and money. So be patient because as they say "All good things come to those who wait".[/p][/quote]Holroyd, Sandaza, Harley et al...up to it? I think there is just cause for some to be less than overflowing with confidence when Albion go to the market. And by the way, Gus himself said he was near a big name just before Christmas - and even you seem to agree this isn't it. I certainly hope we get it right, whoever is bought, but from acquisitions over the last two years that could be something of a lottery.. Willie, Willie Irvine
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1:38pm Wed 2 Jan 13

seagullsays says...

tug509 wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !
Im as optomistic as they get,but he has scored 4 times this season,and is 5`11``,and 11st 8lb,not the big target man we were looking for,so presumably he is the second stiker and not Gus` first choice?...UTA
According to the Almeria website, he's 1.90m and 85 kilos. That's 6ft 2inches and 13st 5lbs. Sounds like a big enough target to me.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing ! Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised ![/p][/quote]Im as optomistic as they get,but he has scored 4 times this season,and is 5`11``,and 11st 8lb,not the big target man we were looking for,so presumably he is the second stiker and not Gus` first choice?...UTA[/p][/quote]According to the Almeria website, he's 1.90m and 85 kilos. That's 6ft 2inches and 13st 5lbs. Sounds like a big enough target to me. seagullsays
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1:40pm Wed 2 Jan 13

PressBoxTeaBoy says...

hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present what would we get here for that money? Thoughts anyone UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,
He is indeed valued at around 2 MILL but also has a player rating of 5/10 and is described as: "a below average player, out of touch and off form".

Almeria's current record is not unlike the Albion's.

He should fit right in !
[quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present what would we get here for that money? Thoughts anyone UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,[/p][/quote]He is indeed valued at around 2 MILL but also has a player rating of 5/10 and is described as: "a below average player, out of touch and off form". Almeria's current record is not unlike the Albion's. He should fit right in ! PressBoxTeaBoy
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1:42pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Neville says...

According to football stats Marcus Painter and Lua Lua are both 5ft 11 ins,
so difficult to believe anyhting really.
According to football stats Marcus Painter and Lua Lua are both 5ft 11 ins, so difficult to believe anyhting really. Neville
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1:48pm Wed 2 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

tug509 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote: There have been several postings on here in recent times calling for Gus to look in the lower home divisions to find a striker, and that might be a good idea. If this guy is playing in spanish div 2, and if some think that that division equates to our div one, I don't see a problem. It all sounds a tad elitetist to say that a player from spanish div two is not up to our standard, just who do you think we are? The guy is being marked down as a failure and he hasn't even pulled on the stripes as of yet.
Hi Vegas,im not sure if people are dismissive of this guy,but think that on top of the paperwork issues,he is the 3rd highest scorer at Almeria,would you spend the clubs money on 3rd best?. As i already said ,he is not the big strong target man Gus has been talking about for over a year. people on here have regularly stated their belief that certain players we have bought were a waste of money,and it is understandable that we dont repeat that mistake!. Also if this guy is that good ,how come he hasn`t been picked up by a bigger club in Spain in the last 5 years?. I agree with some of the above,we need to get our targets that ARE available,before we miss out again!!. UTA
Tug the way I see it, and I could be wrong, is, what role does he have at his club and what has it been over the last two seasons.
What are the players like around him, doe she serve or get service, we don't know but I bet Gus knows.

Correct me if I am wrong but over the last two seasons isn't Buckley our third best striker, do we rate Buckley?

He might be third best in terms of goals scored but he might also be THE best at what his club want him to do, again we don't know.

This signing, should it happen, is not a last minute deal, grab who you can, we have been after him for some time now. Gus and his crew probabaly know all there is to know about him, what he can and can't do, what he will bring to the squad and what he won't.

Managers don't get it right with every signing, Liverpool springs to mind. The amount of time Gus has had to monitor this player suggests to me that he will be a good asset, and that is based on Gus's opinion not mine.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: There have been several postings on here in recent times calling for Gus to look in the lower home divisions to find a striker, and that might be a good idea. If this guy is playing in spanish div 2, and if some think that that division equates to our div one, I don't see a problem. It all sounds a tad elitetist to say that a player from spanish div two is not up to our standard, just who do you think we are? The guy is being marked down as a failure and he hasn't even pulled on the stripes as of yet.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas,im not sure if people are dismissive of this guy,but think that on top of the paperwork issues,he is the 3rd highest scorer at Almeria,would you spend the clubs money on 3rd best?. As i already said ,he is not the big strong target man Gus has been talking about for over a year. people on here have regularly stated their belief that certain players we have bought were a waste of money,and it is understandable that we dont repeat that mistake!. Also if this guy is that good ,how come he hasn`t been picked up by a bigger club in Spain in the last 5 years?. I agree with some of the above,we need to get our targets that ARE available,before we miss out again!!. UTA[/p][/quote]Tug the way I see it, and I could be wrong, is, what role does he have at his club and what has it been over the last two seasons. What are the players like around him, doe she serve or get service, we don't know but I bet Gus knows. Correct me if I am wrong but over the last two seasons isn't Buckley our third best striker, do we rate Buckley? He might be third best in terms of goals scored but he might also be THE best at what his club want him to do, again we don't know. This signing, should it happen, is not a last minute deal, grab who you can, we have been after him for some time now. Gus and his crew probabaly know all there is to know about him, what he can and can't do, what he will bring to the squad and what he won't. Managers don't get it right with every signing, Liverpool springs to mind. The amount of time Gus has had to monitor this player suggests to me that he will be a good asset, and that is based on Gus's opinion not mine. VegasSeagull
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1:48pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Far gull says...

Always prepared to eat humble pie. See woods scored twice in his first game for leicester !!!!!!! that said 2 million was still hefty for us unless we are getting this argy for nothing which i hope.
Always prepared to eat humble pie. See woods scored twice in his first game for leicester !!!!!!! that said 2 million was still hefty for us unless we are getting this argy for nothing which i hope. Far gull
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1:50pm Wed 2 Jan 13

ballantrrae says...

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
hannover seagull wrote:
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present

what would we get here for that money?

Thoughts anyone

UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Valued by whom?
Transfermarkt.co.uk/


ulloa

Independent valuation of footballers
Interesting site, but they value CMS at £2.2-2.5m, Buckley at £1.3-1.5m and, most ridiculously, Bridcutt at £650-750k. Their formulae/algorithms need some tweaking!
Players are only worth what somebody (some club) is actually prepared to pay for them.
I don't think we would sell Buckley for £1.5 million or Bridcutt for £750,000 it would cost more to replace them. I would concede that we might at a pinch in the Summer accept £2.5 million for CMS (he would still have 2 years left on his contract then).
As far as Ulloa is concerned I share others such as Seagullsays misgivings over his continuing passport problems. 5 months seems along time in which it hasn't been sorted. Poyet by implication is also concerned which is why I believe he is putting pressure on Ulloa, his advisors and Almeria by making the statement regarding what is happening.
I suspect that back in August that Ulloa hadn't spent 5 years in Spain and therefore couldn't get a passport. In the intervening time he probably did reach that landmark. Why he hasn't rushed out to get a passport quickly we don't know and it is feasible that the delay might be down to a combination of Spanish red tape and the festive season.
Waiting for Ulloa to become available now might just be the reason that Poyet didn't bring any other striker in during the loan window.
When and if he signs, lets hope he provides the squad with that additional option in attack that many (myself included) feel has been missing.
However I trust that Poyet and Co do not wait for more than a week at most to see if his situation can be resolved since we might, as others have quite rightly highlighted, miss out on other Strikers. I think we might need all of 3 weeks to pursue and seal any deals with an alternative striking option.
With all the focus on signing a striker I hope that BHA are not neglecting the need for another defender and powerhouse midfielder. Incidently there is a young quick talented winger playing for Aberdeen called Ryan Fraser who I think that the Albion could look at as cover for Buckley and LuaLua.
It should be interesting to see exactly who we sign and who goes this month. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present what would we get here for that money? Thoughts anyone UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,[/p][/quote]Valued by whom?[/p][/quote]Transfermarkt.co.uk/ ulloa Independent valuation of footballers[/p][/quote]Interesting site, but they value CMS at £2.2-2.5m, Buckley at £1.3-1.5m and, most ridiculously, Bridcutt at £650-750k. Their formulae/algorithms need some tweaking![/p][/quote]Players are only worth what somebody (some club) is actually prepared to pay for them. I don't think we would sell Buckley for £1.5 million or Bridcutt for £750,000 it would cost more to replace them. I would concede that we might at a pinch in the Summer accept £2.5 million for CMS (he would still have 2 years left on his contract then). As far as Ulloa is concerned I share others such as Seagullsays misgivings over his continuing passport problems. 5 months seems along time in which it hasn't been sorted. Poyet by implication is also concerned which is why I believe he is putting pressure on Ulloa, his advisors and Almeria by making the statement regarding what is happening. I suspect that back in August that Ulloa hadn't spent 5 years in Spain and therefore couldn't get a passport. In the intervening time he probably did reach that landmark. Why he hasn't rushed out to get a passport quickly we don't know and it is feasible that the delay might be down to a combination of Spanish red tape and the festive season. Waiting for Ulloa to become available now might just be the reason that Poyet didn't bring any other striker in during the loan window. When and if he signs, lets hope he provides the squad with that additional option in attack that many (myself included) feel has been missing. However I trust that Poyet and Co do not wait for more than a week at most to see if his situation can be resolved since we might, as others have quite rightly highlighted, miss out on other Strikers. I think we might need all of 3 weeks to pursue and seal any deals with an alternative striking option. With all the focus on signing a striker I hope that BHA are not neglecting the need for another defender and powerhouse midfielder. Incidently there is a young quick talented winger playing for Aberdeen called Ryan Fraser who I think that the Albion could look at as cover for Buckley and LuaLua. It should be interesting to see exactly who we sign and who goes this month. UTA ballantrrae
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1:52pm Wed 2 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

CAKEBEARD wrote:
mickygullhove wrote: well done gus,you have been promissing us a top striker for over a year now, and at last you have found one. he is a spanish second division player, but wait a minute he has,nt got a passport, and not likely to get one. what a great piece of work by gus and his backroom boys. I bet he will score a load of goals for us in spain.
Yes, a dangerous game and not like he's proven at top level! we'll probably end up scraping the barrel!
CAKEBEARD, we don't play at the top level, maybe you were not aware of this fact.
[quote][p][bold]CAKEBEARD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mickygullhove[/bold] wrote: well done gus,you have been promissing us a top striker for over a year now, and at last you have found one. he is a spanish second division player, but wait a minute he has,nt got a passport, and not likely to get one. what a great piece of work by gus and his backroom boys. I bet he will score a load of goals for us in spain.[/p][/quote]Yes, a dangerous game and not like he's proven at top level! we'll probably end up scraping the barrel![/p][/quote]CAKEBEARD, we don't play at the top level, maybe you were not aware of this fact. VegasSeagull
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1:56pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Some stats here;

http://www.soccerbas
e.com/players/player
.sd?player_id=54111&
season_id=141
Some stats here; http://www.soccerbas e.com/players/player .sd?player_id=54111& season_id=141 Hovite
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1:57pm Wed 2 Jan 13

tug509 says...

Vegas ,the three players at our great club that we are worried about losing are,our best striker,best midfield,and best winger,the three strikers that have been mentioned on this site the most are the best at their respective clubs,so again i ask why would we want Almerias third best?.

Of course i dont know any information about this man for a fact,not even the guys on here that live in Spain have claimed that,but isn`t that what this forum is for,discussion,or did i get that wrong as well?.

We can not afford to replicate the Vicente saga,or tie up much needed capital in players such as (sparrow,vincelot,ev
en as valuable as he could be,harley ) or any other fringe player that is not being used but is drawing a wage that could be better used on a top player. If Ulloa is as good as you seem to think then why hasn`t he drawn more attention?.

Everyone that we want is also wanted by other teams,but not this guy. I have absolutely nothing against Ulloa,but he does seem an unproven quantity,and another Vicente could criple the finances for further transfers. Gus play it safe and bring in proven quality ,that wont come with baggage,or moan about playing in the rain.

By the way,the circle was not invented,it is a natural occurrence within nature!. UTA
Vegas ,the three players at our great club that we are worried about losing are,our best striker,best midfield,and best winger,the three strikers that have been mentioned on this site the most are the best at their respective clubs,so again i ask why would we want Almerias third best?. Of course i dont know any information about this man for a fact,not even the guys on here that live in Spain have claimed that,but isn`t that what this forum is for,discussion,or did i get that wrong as well?. We can not afford to replicate the Vicente saga,or tie up much needed capital in players such as (sparrow,vincelot,ev en as valuable as he could be,harley ) or any other fringe player that is not being used but is drawing a wage that could be better used on a top player. If Ulloa is as good as you seem to think then why hasn`t he drawn more attention?. Everyone that we want is also wanted by other teams,but not this guy. I have absolutely nothing against Ulloa,but he does seem an unproven quantity,and another Vicente could criple the finances for further transfers. Gus play it safe and bring in proven quality ,that wont come with baggage,or moan about playing in the rain. By the way,the circle was not invented,it is a natural occurrence within nature!. UTA tug509
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2:00pm Wed 2 Jan 13

raymondo999 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
For those that, 'KNOW,' that this guy is not good enough to play for Brighton, those that are so clever they don't even have to see him play to tell Gus he should look elsewhere, I have a question for you and it is this;

Does your vast inteligence tell you that the wheel was invented, do you KNOW this for a fact, if you do, you are WRONG, the wheel was never invented or discovered.

Those of us with minds capable of flexible thinking indeed do KNOW what was invented, it was a circle, and one of the attributes of a circle is that it can be turned into a wheel.

When the time comes that those that KNOW so much, can offer comments that are based on open minded thinking rather than dogmatic assumptions, when that happens, then they can tell us whether this player is right or wrong for Brighton, and say why.

Untill that day comes I will leave them to carry on KNOWING that the wheel was invented and I will continue to treat their knowledge with the contempt it deserves.
Great post. Always useful to have some clarity of thought. Knowledge is a tricky concept and should always be distinguished from opinion.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: For those that, 'KNOW,' that this guy is not good enough to play for Brighton, those that are so clever they don't even have to see him play to tell Gus he should look elsewhere, I have a question for you and it is this; Does your vast inteligence tell you that the wheel was invented, do you KNOW this for a fact, if you do, you are WRONG, the wheel was never invented or discovered. Those of us with minds capable of flexible thinking indeed do KNOW what was invented, it was a circle, and one of the attributes of a circle is that it can be turned into a wheel. When the time comes that those that KNOW so much, can offer comments that are based on open minded thinking rather than dogmatic assumptions, when that happens, then they can tell us whether this player is right or wrong for Brighton, and say why. Untill that day comes I will leave them to carry on KNOWING that the wheel was invented and I will continue to treat their knowledge with the contempt it deserves.[/p][/quote]Great post. Always useful to have some clarity of thought. Knowledge is a tricky concept and should always be distinguished from opinion. raymondo999
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2:13pm Wed 2 Jan 13

reagull says...

Vicente Spotted!....I have just seen the lesser striped Vicente, wife and child shopping in Holmbush Tesco , might be some clue to how his wages are set up?

or perhaps no one had told him that M&S is next door....?
Vicente Spotted!....I have just seen the lesser striped Vicente, wife and child shopping in Holmbush Tesco , might be some clue to how his wages are set up? or perhaps no one had told him that M&S is next door....? reagull
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2:14pm Wed 2 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

tug509 wrote:
Vegas ,the three players at our great club that we are worried about losing are,our best striker,best midfield,and best winger,the three strikers that have been mentioned on this site the most are the best at their respective clubs,so again i ask why would we want Almerias third best?. Of course i dont know any information about this man for a fact,not even the guys on here that live in Spain have claimed that,but isn`t that what this forum is for,discussion,or did i get that wrong as well?. We can not afford to replicate the Vicente saga,or tie up much needed capital in players such as (sparrow,vincelot,ev en as valuable as he could be,harley ) or any other fringe player that is not being used but is drawing a wage that could be better used on a top player. If Ulloa is as good as you seem to think then why hasn`t he drawn more attention?. Everyone that we want is also wanted by other teams,but not this guy. I have absolutely nothing against Ulloa,but he does seem an unproven quantity,and another Vicente could criple the finances for further transfers. Gus play it safe and bring in proven quality ,that wont come with baggage,or moan about playing in the rain. By the way,the circle was not invented,it is a natural occurrence within nature!. UTA
Of course you are right about the circle, I was trying to make a bigge rpoint but it matters not.

Tug it is not my evaluation of this player that I am talking about, I have no idea as to whether or not he is right for us, I am relying on Gus and the amount of time he has been tracking the guy. This is not a end of window signing, should it happen.

You are right about the money issue but do we have the money to buy a name we all know, a proven striker. I repeat, Gus has tracked this guy for some time, he knows his worth, maybe for the amount of money available for Gus to spend, spend without selling, this guy is right for us.

Just a note, Vicente was of proven ability, his issue has been injuries, I am not sure if Gus could factor in a deep tissue injury occuring prior to signing him, but that's by the by.

Liverpool, I think, paid about 40 million for Andy Caroll, that didn't work out too well did it. Big name, supposed proven ability and now out on loan.

Some players do come from obscurity, Michu (spell check) for one.

Norwich might fancy our best goal scorer, CMS, but they are looking elsewhere first, CMS maybe our first choice but it appears he is not theirs, so does that rank CMS as third choice? Two other strikers on the shopping list of Norwich, Murray is one I forget the other.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Vegas ,the three players at our great club that we are worried about losing are,our best striker,best midfield,and best winger,the three strikers that have been mentioned on this site the most are the best at their respective clubs,so again i ask why would we want Almerias third best?. Of course i dont know any information about this man for a fact,not even the guys on here that live in Spain have claimed that,but isn`t that what this forum is for,discussion,or did i get that wrong as well?. We can not afford to replicate the Vicente saga,or tie up much needed capital in players such as (sparrow,vincelot,ev en as valuable as he could be,harley ) or any other fringe player that is not being used but is drawing a wage that could be better used on a top player. If Ulloa is as good as you seem to think then why hasn`t he drawn more attention?. Everyone that we want is also wanted by other teams,but not this guy. I have absolutely nothing against Ulloa,but he does seem an unproven quantity,and another Vicente could criple the finances for further transfers. Gus play it safe and bring in proven quality ,that wont come with baggage,or moan about playing in the rain. By the way,the circle was not invented,it is a natural occurrence within nature!. UTA[/p][/quote]Of course you are right about the circle, I was trying to make a bigge rpoint but it matters not. Tug it is not my evaluation of this player that I am talking about, I have no idea as to whether or not he is right for us, I am relying on Gus and the amount of time he has been tracking the guy. This is not a end of window signing, should it happen. You are right about the money issue but do we have the money to buy a name we all know, a proven striker. I repeat, Gus has tracked this guy for some time, he knows his worth, maybe for the amount of money available for Gus to spend, spend without selling, this guy is right for us. Just a note, Vicente was of proven ability, his issue has been injuries, I am not sure if Gus could factor in a deep tissue injury occuring prior to signing him, but that's by the by. Liverpool, I think, paid about 40 million for Andy Caroll, that didn't work out too well did it. Big name, supposed proven ability and now out on loan. Some players do come from obscurity, Michu (spell check) for one. Norwich might fancy our best goal scorer, CMS, but they are looking elsewhere first, CMS maybe our first choice but it appears he is not theirs, so does that rank CMS as third choice? Two other strikers on the shopping list of Norwich, Murray is one I forget the other. VegasSeagull
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2:16pm Wed 2 Jan 13

raymondo999 says...

BobbyLaverick wrote:
Please, please Mr Poyet, persevere, pressurise and petition parliamentary people/prime minister for the passport. Poor players present problems that plague passionate public popularity, predominantly when perusing playbacks of pitchplay and passing pithy phrases in posts. Potential playmakers please most posters, by placating planks from posting, period.
Personally I think pleading with Poyet is pointless. He is powerless in the face of prevaricating politicians and passports present perennial problems.
[quote][p][bold]BobbyLaverick[/bold] wrote: Please, please Mr Poyet, persevere, pressurise and petition parliamentary people/prime minister for the passport. Poor players present problems that plague passionate public popularity, predominantly when perusing playbacks of pitchplay and passing pithy phrases in posts. Potential playmakers please most posters, by placating planks from posting, period.[/p][/quote]Personally I think pleading with Poyet is pointless. He is powerless in the face of prevaricating politicians and passports present perennial problems. raymondo999
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2:22pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Hovite says...

It's a pheasant plucking life.
It's a pheasant plucking life. Hovite
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2:26pm Wed 2 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

I doubt that the player is dealing with his passport issue him self, probabaly his agent is dealing with the application and the player simply gets a pic taken and signs the forms.

Could it be that the agent has dragged his heels, maybe other options were being considered, possible.

As I said earlier, it was told to me on the, 'clinical,' thread that the lad is four months shy of the required number of years in Spain. If that is correct I guess they would have to apply for a waiver to the norm, is that possible to do, I don't know.
I doubt that the player is dealing with his passport issue him self, probabaly his agent is dealing with the application and the player simply gets a pic taken and signs the forms. Could it be that the agent has dragged his heels, maybe other options were being considered, possible. As I said earlier, it was told to me on the, 'clinical,' thread that the lad is four months shy of the required number of years in Spain. If that is correct I guess they would have to apply for a waiver to the norm, is that possible to do, I don't know. VegasSeagull
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2:31pm Wed 2 Jan 13

tug509 says...

seagullsays wrote:
tug509 wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !
Im as optomistic as they get,but he has scored 4 times this season,and is 5`11``,and 11st 8lb,not the big target man we were looking for,so presumably he is the second stiker and not Gus` first choice?...UTA
According to the Almeria website, he's 1.90m and 85 kilos. That's 6ft 2inches and 13st 5lbs. Sounds like a big enough target to me.
On Yahoo Eurosport he is 3 inches shorter and almost 2 stone lighter,big error which ever is accurate!. UTA
[quote][p][bold]seagullsays[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing ! Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised ![/p][/quote]Im as optomistic as they get,but he has scored 4 times this season,and is 5`11``,and 11st 8lb,not the big target man we were looking for,so presumably he is the second stiker and not Gus` first choice?...UTA[/p][/quote]According to the Almeria website, he's 1.90m and 85 kilos. That's 6ft 2inches and 13st 5lbs. Sounds like a big enough target to me.[/p][/quote]On Yahoo Eurosport he is 3 inches shorter and almost 2 stone lighter,big error which ever is accurate!. UTA tug509
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2:34pm Wed 2 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Just a comment on some of the players bought in by Gus, players that we no longer need.

I do wish that people would see these guys for what they are and were when signed.
Last season the players got us to the top ten of the division, that was their role, in fact 10th might have been higher than expected. The guys did what was asked and expected of them.

Today, this season, we have bigger aspirations and some of those players might not fit the bill now, but that does not mean that they were bad signings.

Those players that are now considered fringe players did a job for us, to constantly bang on about how they are not good enough now is a waste of effort. You buy to achieve targets, last year we reached our target, maybe even surpassed it.
Just a comment on some of the players bought in by Gus, players that we no longer need. I do wish that people would see these guys for what they are and were when signed. Last season the players got us to the top ten of the division, that was their role, in fact 10th might have been higher than expected. The guys did what was asked and expected of them. Today, this season, we have bigger aspirations and some of those players might not fit the bill now, but that does not mean that they were bad signings. Those players that are now considered fringe players did a job for us, to constantly bang on about how they are not good enough now is a waste of effort. You buy to achieve targets, last year we reached our target, maybe even surpassed it. VegasSeagull
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2:34pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Hovite wrote:
Some stats here;

http://www.soccerbas

e.com/players/player

.sd?player_id=54111&
amp;
season_id=141
Have you tried this link to his stats Tug?
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: Some stats here; http://www.soccerbas e.com/players/player .sd?player_id=54111& amp; season_id=141[/p][/quote]Have you tried this link to his stats Tug? Hovite
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2:43pm Wed 2 Jan 13

tug509 says...

Hovite wrote:
Hovite wrote:
Some stats here;

http://www.soccerbas


e.com/players/player


.sd?player_id=54111&
amp;
amp;
season_id=141
Have you tried this link to his stats Tug?
Lol,i have just visited soccerbase,thanks Hovite. ps they have him at 6ft and 11st 8lb. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: Some stats here; http://www.soccerbas e.com/players/player .sd?player_id=54111& amp; amp; season_id=141[/p][/quote]Have you tried this link to his stats Tug?[/p][/quote]Lol,i have just visited soccerbase,thanks Hovite. ps they have him at 6ft and 11st 8lb. UTA tug509
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2:55pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Hovite says...

If you scroll down the page and select his 2011 - 2012 season you can see last seasons goal form.

28 goals in 38 games, worth a punt I'd say.
If you scroll down the page and select his 2011 - 2012 season you can see last seasons goal form. 28 goals in 38 games, worth a punt I'd say. Hovite
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3:02pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Just a comment on some of the players bought in by Gus, players that we no longer need. I do wish that people would see these guys for what they are and were when signed. Last season the players got us to the top ten of the division, that was their role, in fact 10th might have been higher than expected. The guys did what was asked and expected of them. Today, this season, we have bigger aspirations and some of those players might not fit the bill now, but that does not mean that they were bad signings. Those players that are now considered fringe players did a job for us, to constantly bang on about how they are not good enough now is a waste of effort. You buy to achieve targets, last year we reached our target, maybe even surpassed it.
Interesting. A few posts earlier you were condescendingly critical of posters stating opinion as fact - in your opinion. Much of this post of opionion stated as fact - in my humble opinion...

And we all 'know' the circle is actually just a square with the corners knocked off.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just a comment on some of the players bought in by Gus, players that we no longer need. I do wish that people would see these guys for what they are and were when signed. Last season the players got us to the top ten of the division, that was their role, in fact 10th might have been higher than expected. The guys did what was asked and expected of them. Today, this season, we have bigger aspirations and some of those players might not fit the bill now, but that does not mean that they were bad signings. Those players that are now considered fringe players did a job for us, to constantly bang on about how they are not good enough now is a waste of effort. You buy to achieve targets, last year we reached our target, maybe even surpassed it.[/p][/quote]Interesting. A few posts earlier you were condescendingly critical of posters stating opinion as fact - in your opinion. Much of this post of opionion stated as fact - in my humble opinion... And we all 'know' the circle is actually just a square with the corners knocked off. Willie, Willie Irvine
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3:07pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Hovite says...

I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon.

Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.
I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon. Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit. Hovite
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3:12pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

Hovite wrote:
I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon. Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.
So now I've invented the octagonal wheel..? Dragons Den here I come...
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon. Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.[/p][/quote]So now I've invented the octagonal wheel..? Dragons Den here I come... Willie, Willie Irvine
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3:15pm Wed 2 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote: Just a comment on some of the players bought in by Gus, players that we no longer need. I do wish that people would see these guys for what they are and were when signed. Last season the players got us to the top ten of the division, that was their role, in fact 10th might have been higher than expected. The guys did what was asked and expected of them. Today, this season, we have bigger aspirations and some of those players might not fit the bill now, but that does not mean that they were bad signings. Those players that are now considered fringe players did a job for us, to constantly bang on about how they are not good enough now is a waste of effort. You buy to achieve targets, last year we reached our target, maybe even surpassed it.
Interesting. A few posts earlier you were condescendingly critical of posters stating opinion as fact - in your opinion. Much of this post of opionion stated as fact - in my humble opinion... And we all 'know' the circle is actually just a square with the corners knocked off.
We signed the players, fact
They played for us, fact
They took up the positions they were told to, fact
We finshed 10th, fact
Some are now fringe players, fact

'in fact 10th might have been higher than expected,' opinion not stated as a fact
[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just a comment on some of the players bought in by Gus, players that we no longer need. I do wish that people would see these guys for what they are and were when signed. Last season the players got us to the top ten of the division, that was their role, in fact 10th might have been higher than expected. The guys did what was asked and expected of them. Today, this season, we have bigger aspirations and some of those players might not fit the bill now, but that does not mean that they were bad signings. Those players that are now considered fringe players did a job for us, to constantly bang on about how they are not good enough now is a waste of effort. You buy to achieve targets, last year we reached our target, maybe even surpassed it.[/p][/quote]Interesting. A few posts earlier you were condescendingly critical of posters stating opinion as fact - in your opinion. Much of this post of opionion stated as fact - in my humble opinion... And we all 'know' the circle is actually just a square with the corners knocked off.[/p][/quote]We signed the players, fact They played for us, fact They took up the positions they were told to, fact We finshed 10th, fact Some are now fringe players, fact 'in fact 10th might have been higher than expected,' opinion not stated as a fact VegasSeagull
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3:15pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Hovite says...

This is that eureka moment WWI, I can see the future now.
This is that eureka moment WWI, I can see the future now. Hovite
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3:19pm Wed 2 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Hovite wrote:
If you scroll down the page and select his 2011 - 2012 season you can see last seasons goal form. 28 goals in 38 games, worth a punt I'd say.
I wonder, if a player in Div one had scored 28 in 38 during the 2011-2012 season, would people be calling to give him a punt simply because he was playing in England rather than in Spain?
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: If you scroll down the page and select his 2011 - 2012 season you can see last seasons goal form. 28 goals in 38 games, worth a punt I'd say.[/p][/quote]I wonder, if a player in Div one had scored 28 in 38 during the 2011-2012 season, would people be calling to give him a punt simply because he was playing in England rather than in Spain? VegasSeagull
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3:21pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Clean Sheet says...

Hovite wrote:
I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon.

Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.
The axle was easy enough, it was the differential that took some engineering.........
sorry, Fred Drift again.

Anyway, good news in that there is no bad news so far about first team players leaving :)
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon. Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.[/p][/quote]The axle was easy enough, it was the differential that took some engineering......... sorry, Fred Drift again. Anyway, good news in that there is no bad news so far about first team players leaving :) Clean Sheet
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3:22pm Wed 2 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Hovite wrote:
I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon. Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.
isn't a square with the corners knocked off nothing more than a damaged square?
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon. Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.[/p][/quote]isn't a square with the corners knocked off nothing more than a damaged square? VegasSeagull
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3:29pm Wed 2 Jan 13

tug509 says...

Hovite wrote:
If you scroll down the page and select his 2011 - 2012 season you can see last seasons goal form.

28 goals in 38 games, worth a punt I'd say.
Thats impressive,but only 4 from 18 this season,but can see why Gus likes him. If he comes to us ,we can only hope Gus uses him as they did then!. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: If you scroll down the page and select his 2011 - 2012 season you can see last seasons goal form. 28 goals in 38 games, worth a punt I'd say.[/p][/quote]Thats impressive,but only 4 from 18 this season,but can see why Gus likes him. If he comes to us ,we can only hope Gus uses him as they did then!. UTA tug509
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3:30pm Wed 2 Jan 13

rusty dave says...

BobbyLaverick wrote:
Please, please Mr Poyet, persevere, pressurise and petition parliamentary people/prime minister for the passport. Poor players present problems that plague passionate public popularity, predominantly when perusing playbacks of pitchplay and passing pithy phrases in posts. Potential playmakers please most posters, by placating planks from posting, period.
Are you taking the "P" BL ???????
[quote][p][bold]BobbyLaverick[/bold] wrote: Please, please Mr Poyet, persevere, pressurise and petition parliamentary people/prime minister for the passport. Poor players present problems that plague passionate public popularity, predominantly when perusing playbacks of pitchplay and passing pithy phrases in posts. Potential playmakers please most posters, by placating planks from posting, period.[/p][/quote]Are you taking the "P" BL ??????? rusty dave
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3:32pm Wed 2 Jan 13

russellsnr2 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Hovite wrote:
I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon. Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.
isn't a square with the corners knocked off nothing more than a damaged square?
Na!! It's a football pitch!!!!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon. Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.[/p][/quote]isn't a square with the corners knocked off nothing more than a damaged square?[/p][/quote]Na!! It's a football pitch!!!! russellsnr2
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3:33pm Wed 2 Jan 13

jockithenoo says...

Alfie T wrote:
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !
Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?
Agreed,Fratsomrover has to be one of the most negative & pessimistic posters on here. Perhaps a change of club is needed, try Gillingham or Crawley.
I just checked some stats ulloa has come on sub 70/80 mins so hadn't played?
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing ! Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised ![/p][/quote]Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?[/p][/quote]Agreed,Fratsomrover has to be one of the most negative & pessimistic posters on here. Perhaps a change of club is needed, try Gillingham or Crawley.[/p][/quote]I just checked some stats ulloa has come on sub 70/80 mins so hadn't played? jockithenoo
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3:38pm Wed 2 Jan 13

rusty dave says...

russellsnr2 wrote:
Hi, Sorry but do you really think that Gus and Mr Bloom would spend the money on a player if he was not up to what they want from a player?
They must also no that a passport is on the horizon or they would not be wasting there time.
The problem is IMO that we have been saying for sometime that we need a striker and a quality one at that and as supporters we kind of go into free fall with dreams of a big name or names coming to the club. We have to step back and look at how far we have come as a club over the last three years and big name players will come to play for the club but not just yet we are not really in the roll of things a big club yet but we will get there and when we do that is when really big names will come to play for us, (1) because we will be able to afford the wages (2) we will be a premiership club (3) We will be playing in Europe, but this all takes time and money. So be patient because as they say "All good things come to those who wait".
Spot On !!!!!!! Lets just see how Portsmouth are doing right now eh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: Hi, Sorry but do you really think that Gus and Mr Bloom would spend the money on a player if he was not up to what they want from a player? They must also no that a passport is on the horizon or they would not be wasting there time. The problem is IMO that we have been saying for sometime that we need a striker and a quality one at that and as supporters we kind of go into free fall with dreams of a big name or names coming to the club. We have to step back and look at how far we have come as a club over the last three years and big name players will come to play for the club but not just yet we are not really in the roll of things a big club yet but we will get there and when we do that is when really big names will come to play for us, (1) because we will be able to afford the wages (2) we will be a premiership club (3) We will be playing in Europe, but this all takes time and money. So be patient because as they say "All good things come to those who wait".[/p][/quote]Spot On !!!!!!! Lets just see how Portsmouth are doing right now eh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rusty dave
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3:39pm Wed 2 Jan 13

tug509 says...

russellsnr2 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Hovite wrote:
I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon. Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.
isn't a square with the corners knocked off nothing more than a damaged square?
Na!! It's a football pitch!!!!
A damaged square football pitch,...can only be smellhurst park. UTA
[quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon. Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.[/p][/quote]isn't a square with the corners knocked off nothing more than a damaged square?[/p][/quote]Na!! It's a football pitch!!!![/p][/quote]A damaged square football pitch,...can only be smellhurst park. UTA tug509
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3:44pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

russellsnr2 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Hovite wrote: I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon. Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.
isn't a square with the corners knocked off nothing more than a damaged square?
Na!! It's a football pitch!!!!
Hmm. That's got me thinking. Perhaps I could invent a table game on this principal, call it poolker or something like that. The ol' grey matter is really in overdrive today...
[quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon. Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.[/p][/quote]isn't a square with the corners knocked off nothing more than a damaged square?[/p][/quote]Na!! It's a football pitch!!!![/p][/quote]Hmm. That's got me thinking. Perhaps I could invent a table game on this principal, call it poolker or something like that. The ol' grey matter is really in overdrive today... Willie, Willie Irvine
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4:20pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Claude Back says...

fan since 61 wrote:
It seems to me that this striker issue has come at the right time for all you knockers, after Ipswich you seemed stuck for words
I like knockers.... but I fully realise some people in the Brighton community won't. ;-)
[quote][p][bold]fan since 61[/bold] wrote: It seems to me that this striker issue has come at the right time for all you knockers, after Ipswich you seemed stuck for words[/p][/quote]I like knockers.... but I fully realise some people in the Brighton community won't. ;-) Claude Back
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4:44pm Wed 2 Jan 13

weststandupperlacostearmy says...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Just a comment on some of the players bought in by Gus, players that we no longer need. I do wish that people would see these guys for what they are and were when signed. Last season the players got us to the top ten of the division, that was their role, in fact 10th might have been higher than expected. The guys did what was asked and expected of them. Today, this season, we have bigger aspirations and some of those players might not fit the bill now, but that does not mean that they were bad signings. Those players that are now considered fringe players did a job for us, to constantly bang on about how they are not good enough now is a waste of effort. You buy to achieve targets, last year we reached our target, maybe even surpassed it.
Interesting. A few posts earlier you were condescendingly critical of posters stating opinion as fact - in your opinion. Much of this post of opionion stated as fact - in my humble opinion...

And we all 'know' the circle is actually just a square with the corners knocked off.
...Or is it a circle with 4 right angles added???
[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just a comment on some of the players bought in by Gus, players that we no longer need. I do wish that people would see these guys for what they are and were when signed. Last season the players got us to the top ten of the division, that was their role, in fact 10th might have been higher than expected. The guys did what was asked and expected of them. Today, this season, we have bigger aspirations and some of those players might not fit the bill now, but that does not mean that they were bad signings. Those players that are now considered fringe players did a job for us, to constantly bang on about how they are not good enough now is a waste of effort. You buy to achieve targets, last year we reached our target, maybe even surpassed it.[/p][/quote]Interesting. A few posts earlier you were condescendingly critical of posters stating opinion as fact - in your opinion. Much of this post of opionion stated as fact - in my humble opinion... And we all 'know' the circle is actually just a square with the corners knocked off.[/p][/quote]...Or is it a circle with 4 right angles added??? weststandupperlacostearmy
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4:47pm Wed 2 Jan 13

weststandupperlacostearmy says...

reagull wrote:
Vicente Spotted!....I have just seen the lesser striped Vicente, wife and child shopping in Holmbush Tesco , might be some clue to how his wages are set up?

or perhaps no one had told him that M&S is next door....?
...he was in NEXT buying a reduced recliner. LAZY BOY!!!
[quote][p][bold]reagull[/bold] wrote: Vicente Spotted!....I have just seen the lesser striped Vicente, wife and child shopping in Holmbush Tesco , might be some clue to how his wages are set up? or perhaps no one had told him that M&S is next door....?[/p][/quote]...he was in NEXT buying a reduced recliner. LAZY BOY!!! weststandupperlacostearmy
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4:49pm Wed 2 Jan 13

weststandupperlacostearmy says...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Just a comment on some of the players bought in by Gus, players that we no longer need. I do wish that people would see these guys for what they are and were when signed. Last season the players got us to the top ten of the division, that was their role, in fact 10th might have been higher than expected. The guys did what was asked and expected of them. Today, this season, we have bigger aspirations and some of those players might not fit the bill now, but that does not mean that they were bad signings. Those players that are now considered fringe players did a job for us, to constantly bang on about how they are not good enough now is a waste of effort. You buy to achieve targets, last year we reached our target, maybe even surpassed it.
Interesting. A few posts earlier you were condescendingly critical of posters stating opinion as fact - in your opinion. Much of this post of opionion stated as fact - in my humble opinion...

And we all 'know' the circle is actually just a square with the corners knocked off.
...Or is it a circle with 4 right angles added???
[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just a comment on some of the players bought in by Gus, players that we no longer need. I do wish that people would see these guys for what they are and were when signed. Last season the players got us to the top ten of the division, that was their role, in fact 10th might have been higher than expected. The guys did what was asked and expected of them. Today, this season, we have bigger aspirations and some of those players might not fit the bill now, but that does not mean that they were bad signings. Those players that are now considered fringe players did a job for us, to constantly bang on about how they are not good enough now is a waste of effort. You buy to achieve targets, last year we reached our target, maybe even surpassed it.[/p][/quote]Interesting. A few posts earlier you were condescendingly critical of posters stating opinion as fact - in your opinion. Much of this post of opionion stated as fact - in my humble opinion... And we all 'know' the circle is actually just a square with the corners knocked off.[/p][/quote]...Or is it a circle with 4 right angles added??? weststandupperlacostearmy
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4:52pm Wed 2 Jan 13

weststandupperlacostearmy says...

rusty dave wrote:
russellsnr2 wrote:
Hi, Sorry but do you really think that Gus and Mr Bloom would spend the money on a player if he was not up to what they want from a player?
They must also no that a passport is on the horizon or they would not be wasting there time.
The problem is IMO that we have been saying for sometime that we need a striker and a quality one at that and as supporters we kind of go into free fall with dreams of a big name or names coming to the club. We have to step back and look at how far we have come as a club over the last three years and big name players will come to play for the club but not just yet we are not really in the roll of things a big club yet but we will get there and when we do that is when really big names will come to play for us, (1) because we will be able to afford the wages (2) we will be a premiership club (3) We will be playing in Europe, but this all takes time and money. So be patient because as they say "All good things come to those who wait".
Spot On !!!!!!! Lets just see how Portsmouth are doing right now eh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good evening Rusty Dave! good post! are you in The Sussex Cricketer having pint?
[quote][p][bold]rusty dave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]russellsnr2[/bold] wrote: Hi, Sorry but do you really think that Gus and Mr Bloom would spend the money on a player if he was not up to what they want from a player? They must also no that a passport is on the horizon or they would not be wasting there time. The problem is IMO that we have been saying for sometime that we need a striker and a quality one at that and as supporters we kind of go into free fall with dreams of a big name or names coming to the club. We have to step back and look at how far we have come as a club over the last three years and big name players will come to play for the club but not just yet we are not really in the roll of things a big club yet but we will get there and when we do that is when really big names will come to play for us, (1) because we will be able to afford the wages (2) we will be a premiership club (3) We will be playing in Europe, but this all takes time and money. So be patient because as they say "All good things come to those who wait".[/p][/quote]Spot On !!!!!!! Lets just see how Portsmouth are doing right now eh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Good evening Rusty Dave! good post! are you in The Sussex Cricketer having pint? weststandupperlacostearmy
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5:02pm Wed 2 Jan 13

brightonup says...

sussexram40 wrote:
Find somebody else now is my advice. It all sounds very uncertain and if we hang on till mid January all the other possibilities will have been snapped up.
On what basis do you think your advice is either helpful or required. Who are you advising? How do you know more than the Albion management?

Have to say - wrong again! Why Bother?
[quote][p][bold]sussexram40[/bold] wrote: Find somebody else now is my advice. It all sounds very uncertain and if we hang on till mid January all the other possibilities will have been snapped up.[/p][/quote]On what basis do you think your advice is either helpful or required. Who are you advising? How do you know more than the Albion management? Have to say - wrong again! Why Bother? brightonup
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5:03pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

Claude Back wrote:
fan since 61 wrote: It seems to me that this striker issue has come at the right time for all you knockers, after Ipswich you seemed stuck for words
I like knockers.... but I fully realise some people in the Brighton community won't. ;-)
Why, Claude - they've all got front doors, haven't they..? I've seen some fine examples of truly splendid knockers when walking along the seafront, admiring the architecture. Me walking, that is, not the knockers...
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fan since 61[/bold] wrote: It seems to me that this striker issue has come at the right time for all you knockers, after Ipswich you seemed stuck for words[/p][/quote]I like knockers.... but I fully realise some people in the Brighton community won't. ;-)[/p][/quote]Why, Claude - they've all got front doors, haven't they..? I've seen some fine examples of truly splendid knockers when walking along the seafront, admiring the architecture. Me walking, that is, not the knockers... Willie, Willie Irvine
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5:08pm Wed 2 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

Ok so this is the guy Gus wants, no dounts about that but is he all he wants.

I have to assume that he represents the hold up target type man, will Gus also go for an all out striker? Now he might not be the target man, he could be the extra striker, does Gus still have to find one?

We are clearly short one player at the back, I wonder if Gus is trying to sort that too, would have to think he is, maybe a loan deal?

Clubs appear not to be falling over themselves to make offers for our gems, or at least none that we are being told of, do we think that is because they are second and third choices for other clubs? Did the warning Gus issued regarding their price scare potential suitors away?

What do we think of the price tag Palace have placed on Zaha, 20 million, is that crazy or are they jacking it up so as to get maybe 14 million.
What effect does his value have on Buckley?

Zaha says that he wants to stay with Palace for the rest of this season, would he be nuts to turn down a move to United?
Ok so this is the guy Gus wants, no dounts about that but is he all he wants. I have to assume that he represents the hold up target type man, will Gus also go for an all out striker? Now he might not be the target man, he could be the extra striker, does Gus still have to find one? We are clearly short one player at the back, I wonder if Gus is trying to sort that too, would have to think he is, maybe a loan deal? Clubs appear not to be falling over themselves to make offers for our gems, or at least none that we are being told of, do we think that is because they are second and third choices for other clubs? Did the warning Gus issued regarding their price scare potential suitors away? What do we think of the price tag Palace have placed on Zaha, 20 million, is that crazy or are they jacking it up so as to get maybe 14 million. What effect does his value have on Buckley? Zaha says that he wants to stay with Palace for the rest of this season, would he be nuts to turn down a move to United? VegasSeagull
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5:17pm Wed 2 Jan 13

weststandupperlacostearmy says...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
fan since 61 wrote: It seems to me that this striker issue has come at the right time for all you knockers, after Ipswich you seemed stuck for words
I like knockers.... but I fully realise some people in the Brighton community won't. ;-)
Why, Claude - they've all got front doors, haven't they..? I've seen some fine examples of truly splendid knockers when walking along the seafront, admiring the architecture. Me walking, that is, not the knockers...
you need Knockers in life!!! and they come in all shapes and sizes...lovely jubbly x
[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fan since 61[/bold] wrote: It seems to me that this striker issue has come at the right time for all you knockers, after Ipswich you seemed stuck for words[/p][/quote]I like knockers.... but I fully realise some people in the Brighton community won't. ;-)[/p][/quote]Why, Claude - they've all got front doors, haven't they..? I've seen some fine examples of truly splendid knockers when walking along the seafront, admiring the architecture. Me walking, that is, not the knockers...[/p][/quote]you need Knockers in life!!! and they come in all shapes and sizes...lovely jubbly x weststandupperlacostearmy
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5:35pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

weststandupperlacost
earmy
wrote:
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
fan since 61 wrote: It seems to me that this striker issue has come at the right time for all you knockers, after Ipswich you seemed stuck for words
I like knockers.... but I fully realise some people in the Brighton community won't. ;-)
Why, Claude - they've all got front doors, haven't they..? I've seen some fine examples of truly splendid knockers when walking along the seafront, admiring the architecture. Me walking, that is, not the knockers...
you need Knockers in life!!! and they come in all shapes and sizes...lovely jubbly x
We could bring this thread full circle (that circle again) by linking these comments to centre forwards. The big ones up front always get the most attention and are the hardest to keep under control. Gus has clearly decided he likes big ones...
[quote][p][bold]weststandupperlacost earmy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fan since 61[/bold] wrote: It seems to me that this striker issue has come at the right time for all you knockers, after Ipswich you seemed stuck for words[/p][/quote]I like knockers.... but I fully realise some people in the Brighton community won't. ;-)[/p][/quote]Why, Claude - they've all got front doors, haven't they..? I've seen some fine examples of truly splendid knockers when walking along the seafront, admiring the architecture. Me walking, that is, not the knockers...[/p][/quote]you need Knockers in life!!! and they come in all shapes and sizes...lovely jubbly x[/p][/quote]We could bring this thread full circle (that circle again) by linking these comments to centre forwards. The big ones up front always get the most attention and are the hardest to keep under control. Gus has clearly decided he likes big ones... Willie, Willie Irvine
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5:41pm Wed 2 Jan 13

jockithenoo says...

weststandupperlacost
earmy
wrote:
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Just a comment on some of the players bought in by Gus, players that we no longer need. I do wish that people would see these guys for what they are and were when signed. Last season the players got us to the top ten of the division, that was their role, in fact 10th might have been higher than expected. The guys did what was asked and expected of them. Today, this season, we have bigger aspirations and some of those players might not fit the bill now, but that does not mean that they were bad signings. Those players that are now considered fringe players did a job for us, to constantly bang on about how they are not good enough now is a waste of effort. You buy to achieve targets, last year we reached our target, maybe even surpassed it.
Interesting. A few posts earlier you were condescendingly critical of posters stating opinion as fact - in your opinion. Much of this post of opionion stated as fact - in my humble opinion...

And we all 'know' the circle is actually just a square with the corners knocked off.
...Or is it a circle with 4 right angles added???
Stop! ! Every body knows its not square
a pitch can be 90 yds x 90 yds but it isn't allowed to be square . LOL
UTA
[quote][p][bold]weststandupperlacost earmy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just a comment on some of the players bought in by Gus, players that we no longer need. I do wish that people would see these guys for what they are and were when signed. Last season the players got us to the top ten of the division, that was their role, in fact 10th might have been higher than expected. The guys did what was asked and expected of them. Today, this season, we have bigger aspirations and some of those players might not fit the bill now, but that does not mean that they were bad signings. Those players that are now considered fringe players did a job for us, to constantly bang on about how they are not good enough now is a waste of effort. You buy to achieve targets, last year we reached our target, maybe even surpassed it.[/p][/quote]Interesting. A few posts earlier you were condescendingly critical of posters stating opinion as fact - in your opinion. Much of this post of opionion stated as fact - in my humble opinion... And we all 'know' the circle is actually just a square with the corners knocked off.[/p][/quote]...Or is it a circle with 4 right angles added???[/p][/quote]Stop! ! Every body knows its not square a pitch can be 90 yds x 90 yds but it isn't allowed to be square . LOL UTA jockithenoo
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6:12pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Claude Back says...

BobbyLaverick wrote:
Please, please Mr Poyet, persevere, pressurise and petition parliamentary people/prime minister for the passport. Poor players present problems that plague passionate public popularity, predominantly when perusing playbacks of pitchplay and passing pithy phrases in posts. Potential playmakers please most posters, by placating planks from posting, period.
You probably have a propensity for popular alliteration? ;-)
[quote][p][bold]BobbyLaverick[/bold] wrote: Please, please Mr Poyet, persevere, pressurise and petition parliamentary people/prime minister for the passport. Poor players present problems that plague passionate public popularity, predominantly when perusing playbacks of pitchplay and passing pithy phrases in posts. Potential playmakers please most posters, by placating planks from posting, period.[/p][/quote]You probably have a propensity for popular alliteration? ;-) Claude Back
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6:16pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Nice on CB, any words that makes me have to check out the Thesaurus is an education.
Nice on CB, any words that makes me have to check out the Thesaurus is an education. Hovite
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6:21pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Baldseagull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
For those that, 'KNOW,' that this guy is not good enough to play for Brighton, those that are so clever they don't even have to see him play to tell Gus he should look elsewhere, I have a question for you and it is this;

Does your vast inteligence tell you that the wheel was invented, do you KNOW this for a fact, if you do, you are WRONG, the wheel was never invented or discovered.

Those of us with minds capable of flexible thinking indeed do KNOW what was invented, it was a circle, and one of the attributes of a circle is that it can be turned into a wheel.

When the time comes that those that KNOW so much, can offer comments that are based on open minded thinking rather than dogmatic assumptions, when that happens, then they can tell us whether this player is right or wrong for Brighton, and say why.

Untill that day comes I will leave them to carry on KNOWING that the wheel was invented and I will continue to treat their knowledge with the contempt it deserves.
Not fussed if no-one comes in, so long as we hold on to everyone we want to stay. The players we have can do the job if they find their form, and I think they will.
Aside from new signings, I believe JFC will be back from Oxford, could be his time now.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: For those that, 'KNOW,' that this guy is not good enough to play for Brighton, those that are so clever they don't even have to see him play to tell Gus he should look elsewhere, I have a question for you and it is this; Does your vast inteligence tell you that the wheel was invented, do you KNOW this for a fact, if you do, you are WRONG, the wheel was never invented or discovered. Those of us with minds capable of flexible thinking indeed do KNOW what was invented, it was a circle, and one of the attributes of a circle is that it can be turned into a wheel. When the time comes that those that KNOW so much, can offer comments that are based on open minded thinking rather than dogmatic assumptions, when that happens, then they can tell us whether this player is right or wrong for Brighton, and say why. Untill that day comes I will leave them to carry on KNOWING that the wheel was invented and I will continue to treat their knowledge with the contempt it deserves.[/p][/quote]Not fussed if no-one comes in, so long as we hold on to everyone we want to stay. The players we have can do the job if they find their form, and I think they will. Aside from new signings, I believe JFC will be back from Oxford, could be his time now. Baldseagull
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6:26pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Claude Back says...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
weststandupperlacost

earmy
wrote:
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
Claude Back wrote:
fan since 61 wrote: It seems to me that this striker issue has come at the right time for all you knockers, after Ipswich you seemed stuck for words
I like knockers.... but I fully realise some people in the Brighton community won't. ;-)
Why, Claude - they've all got front doors, haven't they..? I've seen some fine examples of truly splendid knockers when walking along the seafront, admiring the architecture. Me walking, that is, not the knockers...
you need Knockers in life!!! and they come in all shapes and sizes...lovely jubbly x
We could bring this thread full circle (that circle again) by linking these comments to centre forwards. The big ones up front always get the most attention and are the hardest to keep under control. Gus has clearly decided he likes big ones...
People used to say there were a lot of knockers at Withdean but I never saw any. Probably too cold and wet.
[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]weststandupperlacost earmy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fan since 61[/bold] wrote: It seems to me that this striker issue has come at the right time for all you knockers, after Ipswich you seemed stuck for words[/p][/quote]I like knockers.... but I fully realise some people in the Brighton community won't. ;-)[/p][/quote]Why, Claude - they've all got front doors, haven't they..? I've seen some fine examples of truly splendid knockers when walking along the seafront, admiring the architecture. Me walking, that is, not the knockers...[/p][/quote]you need Knockers in life!!! and they come in all shapes and sizes...lovely jubbly x[/p][/quote]We could bring this thread full circle (that circle again) by linking these comments to centre forwards. The big ones up front always get the most attention and are the hardest to keep under control. Gus has clearly decided he likes big ones...[/p][/quote]People used to say there were a lot of knockers at Withdean but I never saw any. Probably too cold and wet. Claude Back
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6:39pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Hovite says...

I won't mention Gully's girls, but cold and wet weather conditions is a bonus.
I won't mention Gully's girls, but cold and wet weather conditions is a bonus. Hovite
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7:00pm Wed 2 Jan 13

BobbyLaverick says...

Hovite wrote:
I won't mention Gully's girls, but cold and wet weather conditions is a bonus.
Bobby gives you the booby prize for that one Hovite ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: I won't mention Gully's girls, but cold and wet weather conditions is a bonus.[/p][/quote]Bobby gives you the booby prize for that one Hovite ;-) BobbyLaverick
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7:33pm Wed 2 Jan 13

BobbyLaverick says...

Claude Back wrote:
BobbyLaverick wrote:
Please, please Mr Poyet, persevere, pressurise and petition parliamentary people/prime minister for the passport. Poor players present problems that plague passionate public popularity, predominantly when perusing playbacks of pitchplay and passing pithy phrases in posts. Potential playmakers please most posters, by placating planks from posting, period.
You probably have a propensity for popular alliteration? ;-)
I'm just permanantly peeved with political correctness CB ;-)
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BobbyLaverick[/bold] wrote: Please, please Mr Poyet, persevere, pressurise and petition parliamentary people/prime minister for the passport. Poor players present problems that plague passionate public popularity, predominantly when perusing playbacks of pitchplay and passing pithy phrases in posts. Potential playmakers please most posters, by placating planks from posting, period.[/p][/quote]You probably have a propensity for popular alliteration? ;-)[/p][/quote]I'm just permanantly peeved with political correctness CB ;-) BobbyLaverick
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8:22pm Wed 2 Jan 13

bruce beckett says...

All I can say is that if we do sign this guy he turns out to be significantly better than his compatriot Federico Turienzo. I seem to recall he cost 100k and was absolute rubbish.
All I can say is that if we do sign this guy he turns out to be significantly better than his compatriot Federico Turienzo. I seem to recall he cost 100k and was absolute rubbish. bruce beckett
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10:59pm Wed 2 Jan 13

sussexram40 says...

If we sign Ulloa it could be a problem on the commentary. If you say Ulloa it sounds a bit like LuaLua - especially if you have bad reception or are driving.
Not a serious consideration but just something that came to mind.
If we sign Ulloa it could be a problem on the commentary. If you say Ulloa it sounds a bit like LuaLua - especially if you have bad reception or are driving. Not a serious consideration but just something that came to mind. sussexram40
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11:26pm Wed 2 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Don't worry, you will always get a bad reception whether driving or not.
Don't worry, you will always get a bad reception whether driving or not. Hovite
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11:44pm Wed 2 Jan 13

consultsmithy says...

Personally I can't see why we'd be particularly interested in a Spanish 2nd division striker. Is their 2nd division so much better than ours? Also why should this Argentinian guy be given a European passport? Spanish unemployment stands at 26%, with youth unemployment (18-25) at a shocking 53%! He can hardly be considered an essential worker, and the second divisions of Spain and England should be the breeding grounds for young local talent. JF-C anybody?
Personally I can't see why we'd be particularly interested in a Spanish 2nd division striker. Is their 2nd division so much better than ours? Also why should this Argentinian guy be given a European passport? Spanish unemployment stands at 26%, with youth unemployment (18-25) at a shocking 53%! He can hardly be considered an essential worker, and the second divisions of Spain and England should be the breeding grounds for young local talent. JF-C anybody? consultsmithy
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12:09am Thu 3 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

consultsmithy wrote:
Personally I can't see why we'd be particularly interested in a Spanish 2nd division striker. Is their 2nd division so much better than ours? Also why should this Argentinian guy be given a European passport? Spanish unemployment stands at 26%, with youth unemployment (18-25) at a shocking 53%! He can hardly be considered an essential worker, and the second divisions of Spain and England should be the breeding grounds for young local talent. JF-C anybody?
Is this a serious posting or do we have a new WUM?

Think for a moment what the implications are from what you are writing.

Remove all young foreign players from Spain and why, well to create jobs for young spaniards.
Remove all other foreign players from spain and why, well to create jobs for older spaniards of course.

How about removing all foreign nurses and doctors from Spain, that would create some jobs.
Close all foreign restaurants in Spain, more jobs created.

Why mess about, why not remove all foreigners from any job in Spain and create a whole bunch of jobs.

Consultsmithy I wonder, are there any other countries whose unemployment rate keeps you up at night?

If you can pull yourself away from those pesky spanish employment numbers perhaps you could give us your opinion of the player in question.
[quote][p][bold]consultsmithy[/bold] wrote: Personally I can't see why we'd be particularly interested in a Spanish 2nd division striker. Is their 2nd division so much better than ours? Also why should this Argentinian guy be given a European passport? Spanish unemployment stands at 26%, with youth unemployment (18-25) at a shocking 53%! He can hardly be considered an essential worker, and the second divisions of Spain and England should be the breeding grounds for young local talent. JF-C anybody?[/p][/quote]Is this a serious posting or do we have a new WUM? Think for a moment what the implications are from what you are writing. Remove all young foreign players from Spain and why, well to create jobs for young spaniards. Remove all other foreign players from spain and why, well to create jobs for older spaniards of course. How about removing all foreign nurses and doctors from Spain, that would create some jobs. Close all foreign restaurants in Spain, more jobs created. Why mess about, why not remove all foreigners from any job in Spain and create a whole bunch of jobs. Consultsmithy I wonder, are there any other countries whose unemployment rate keeps you up at night? If you can pull yourself away from those pesky spanish employment numbers perhaps you could give us your opinion of the player in question. VegasSeagull
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1:57am Thu 3 Jan 13

JoeBlow says...

consultsmithy wrote:
Personally I can't see why we'd be particularly interested in a Spanish 2nd division striker. Is their 2nd division so much better than ours? Also why should this Argentinian guy be given a European passport? Spanish unemployment stands at 26%, with youth unemployment (18-25) at a shocking 53%! He can hardly be considered an essential worker, and the second divisions of Spain and England should be the breeding grounds for young local talent. JF-C anybody?
Is that the JF-C who can only make the bench for Oxford at the moment, and then isn't one of the three subs used? That JF-C?
[quote][p][bold]consultsmithy[/bold] wrote: Personally I can't see why we'd be particularly interested in a Spanish 2nd division striker. Is their 2nd division so much better than ours? Also why should this Argentinian guy be given a European passport? Spanish unemployment stands at 26%, with youth unemployment (18-25) at a shocking 53%! He can hardly be considered an essential worker, and the second divisions of Spain and England should be the breeding grounds for young local talent. JF-C anybody?[/p][/quote]Is that the JF-C who can only make the bench for Oxford at the moment, and then isn't one of the three subs used? That JF-C? JoeBlow
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8:17am Thu 3 Jan 13

Freeloaders says...

hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present

what would we get here for that money?

Thoughts anyone

UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,
You would get Chris Wood for under one & half million.Which is all Leicester payed in the end.Unlike vile freeloaders he got 2 goals in his first game.Odd he didn't need time to bed in,or get to know his team mates first lol.But im sure Hovite would say thats the case with Hoskins & Dobbie.Also Hovite plz ask MBTS about Dave Allen one of the best scouts in sussex for many a year.Like his found Charlie Gilmour just 13 years old & now with Arsenal.A former Hove Park schoolboy.
[quote][p][bold]hannover seagull[/bold] wrote: Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present what would we get here for that money? Thoughts anyone UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,[/p][/quote]You would get Chris Wood for under one & half million.Which is all Leicester payed in the end.Unlike vile freeloaders he got 2 goals in his first game.Odd he didn't need time to bed in,or get to know his team mates first lol.But im sure Hovite would say thats the case with Hoskins & Dobbie.Also Hovite plz ask MBTS about Dave Allen one of the best scouts in sussex for many a year.Like his found Charlie Gilmour just 13 years old & now with Arsenal.A former Hove Park schoolboy. Freeloaders
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8:31am Thu 3 Jan 13

Freeloaders says...

JoeBlow wrote:
consultsmithy wrote:
Personally I can't see why we'd be particularly interested in a Spanish 2nd division striker. Is their 2nd division so much better than ours? Also why should this Argentinian guy be given a European passport? Spanish unemployment stands at 26%, with youth unemployment (18-25) at a shocking 53%! He can hardly be considered an essential worker, and the second divisions of Spain and England should be the breeding grounds for young local talent. JF-C anybody?
Is that the JF-C who can only make the bench for Oxford at the moment, and then isn't one of the three subs used? That JF-C?
Top post yet again from a fan with their own brain.I asked for reports about all of them yesterday.Barker pure rubbish,Dickerson pure rubbish,and JFC pure rubbish lol.Crawley are after a striker to help their push for the league one play-offs on crowds under three thousand.I have a good idear the player they would really like to get,but for a joke i said how about Oatway Jr,Barker,or maybe Dobbie as his not playing.These players are not even wanted by most league one clubs.Like one guy said,"Your lot just about got Harley out on loan to MKD." LOL
[quote][p][bold]JoeBlow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]consultsmithy[/bold] wrote: Personally I can't see why we'd be particularly interested in a Spanish 2nd division striker. Is their 2nd division so much better than ours? Also why should this Argentinian guy be given a European passport? Spanish unemployment stands at 26%, with youth unemployment (18-25) at a shocking 53%! He can hardly be considered an essential worker, and the second divisions of Spain and England should be the breeding grounds for young local talent. JF-C anybody?[/p][/quote]Is that the JF-C who can only make the bench for Oxford at the moment, and then isn't one of the three subs used? That JF-C?[/p][/quote]Top post yet again from a fan with their own brain.I asked for reports about all of them yesterday.Barker pure rubbish,Dickerson pure rubbish,and JFC pure rubbish lol.Crawley are after a striker to help their push for the league one play-offs on crowds under three thousand.I have a good idear the player they would really like to get,but for a joke i said how about Oatway Jr,Barker,or maybe Dobbie as his not playing.These players are not even wanted by most league one clubs.Like one guy said,"Your lot just about got Harley out on loan to MKD." LOL Freeloaders
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8:35am Thu 3 Jan 13

Freeloaders says...

Hovite wrote:
Yeah cub scouts, Dib Dib Dib Dob Dob Dob
What you know about football you could put on the back of a stamp.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: Yeah cub scouts, Dib Dib Dib Dob Dob Dob[/p][/quote]What you know about football you could put on the back of a stamp. Freeloaders
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8:49am Thu 3 Jan 13

Freeloaders says...

fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !
Such a good post my friend.Plz also note not one other club in England are after this guy lol.The Albion have let the world know they are after this guy,but not one other club is sniffing around.Not really Chris Wood is it lol.Two goals in his first game.I thought he may need time to get to know his team mates,and get used to his new house.Or whats the other one some of you freeloaders say on here to keep the free money coming in."His in a hotel,and his wife or girlfriend are not with him yet."The poor things at the Albion,they must get so lonley.Lets face it the only thing they have to do is play football,they are not being asked to run the bank of England.
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing ! Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised ![/p][/quote]Such a good post my friend.Plz also note not one other club in England are after this guy lol.The Albion have let the world know they are after this guy,but not one other club is sniffing around.Not really Chris Wood is it lol.Two goals in his first game.I thought he may need time to get to know his team mates,and get used to his new house.Or whats the other one some of you freeloaders say on here to keep the free money coming in."His in a hotel,and his wife or girlfriend are not with him yet."The poor things at the Albion,they must get so lonley.Lets face it the only thing they have to do is play football,they are not being asked to run the bank of England. Freeloaders
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9:03am Thu 3 Jan 13

Freeloaders says...

Baldseagull wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
For those that, 'KNOW,' that this guy is not good enough to play for Brighton, those that are so clever they don't even have to see him play to tell Gus he should look elsewhere, I have a question for you and it is this;

Does your vast inteligence tell you that the wheel was invented, do you KNOW this for a fact, if you do, you are WRONG, the wheel was never invented or discovered.

Those of us with minds capable of flexible thinking indeed do KNOW what was invented, it was a circle, and one of the attributes of a circle is that it can be turned into a wheel.

When the time comes that those that KNOW so much, can offer comments that are based on open minded thinking rather than dogmatic assumptions, when that happens, then they can tell us whether this player is right or wrong for Brighton, and say why.

Untill that day comes I will leave them to carry on KNOWING that the wheel was invented and I will continue to treat their knowledge with the contempt it deserves.
Not fussed if no-one comes in, so long as we hold on to everyone we want to stay. The players we have can do the job if they find their form, and I think they will.
Aside from new signings, I believe JFC will be back from Oxford, could be his time now.
Yes thats why MUFC,Chelsea,Spurs,a
nd Arsenal are all watching the lad i take it.If they can find out about a 13 year old from Hove Park,im sure they can find out about the nightclub super kid thats been a unused sub most weeks in league two lol.
[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: For those that, 'KNOW,' that this guy is not good enough to play for Brighton, those that are so clever they don't even have to see him play to tell Gus he should look elsewhere, I have a question for you and it is this; Does your vast inteligence tell you that the wheel was invented, do you KNOW this for a fact, if you do, you are WRONG, the wheel was never invented or discovered. Those of us with minds capable of flexible thinking indeed do KNOW what was invented, it was a circle, and one of the attributes of a circle is that it can be turned into a wheel. When the time comes that those that KNOW so much, can offer comments that are based on open minded thinking rather than dogmatic assumptions, when that happens, then they can tell us whether this player is right or wrong for Brighton, and say why. Untill that day comes I will leave them to carry on KNOWING that the wheel was invented and I will continue to treat their knowledge with the contempt it deserves.[/p][/quote]Not fussed if no-one comes in, so long as we hold on to everyone we want to stay. The players we have can do the job if they find their form, and I think they will. Aside from new signings, I believe JFC will be back from Oxford, could be his time now.[/p][/quote]Yes thats why MUFC,Chelsea,Spurs,a nd Arsenal are all watching the lad i take it.If they can find out about a 13 year old from Hove Park,im sure they can find out about the nightclub super kid thats been a unused sub most weeks in league two lol. Freeloaders
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1:30pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Eddy B says...

Actually folks having just watched some youtube clips I think he could be an excellent acquisition. Age 26, looks fairly stocky and I reckon definately between 5, 11, and 6, 2, :) but reckon towards the top end, and Spanish 2nd division top scorer with 28 last season.

(notwithstanding the pronounciation problems, not only Ulloa, but Leo Ulloa!)
Actually folks having just watched some youtube clips I think he could be an excellent acquisition. Age 26, looks fairly stocky and I reckon definately between 5, 11, and 6, 2, :) but reckon towards the top end, and Spanish 2nd division top scorer with 28 last season. (notwithstanding the pronounciation problems, not only Ulloa, but Leo Ulloa!) Eddy B
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4:32pm Thu 3 Jan 13

seagulls92 says...

Freeloaders, as you seem to constantly bang on about Charlie Gilmour, im sure you will know he actually turned down the albion to play for arsenal. His older brother Dean also turned down the albion to play for west ham who were in the prem at that time. Where's Dean now? Playing sunday league. JFC turned down Arsenal and Villa to play for Albion. Plenty of young players get scouted for top sides, how many then go on to break through for that side and progress to become top players? Very few.
Freeloaders, as you seem to constantly bang on about Charlie Gilmour, im sure you will know he actually turned down the albion to play for arsenal. His older brother Dean also turned down the albion to play for west ham who were in the prem at that time. Where's Dean now? Playing sunday league. JFC turned down Arsenal and Villa to play for Albion. Plenty of young players get scouted for top sides, how many then go on to break through for that side and progress to become top players? Very few. seagulls92
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4:35pm Thu 3 Jan 13

Rob_in_Tulsa says...

Probably going to have to eat my words later but sounds a bit like previous attempts at getting a striker in.. some kind of problem preventing it then the usual excuses from the management team as to why we didn't get one during the transfer period.. why chase after someone when there is no solid guarantee that he will get his Spanish passport or any other kind of document that allows him to play in the UK in the near future if at all!

Having said that though, thoroughly pleased at the 3-0 win at Ipswich.. sounded like some upped their game somewhat and that's what we need EVERY game.. not just the odd one.
Probably going to have to eat my words later but sounds a bit like previous attempts at getting a striker in.. some kind of problem preventing it then the usual excuses from the management team as to why we didn't get one during the transfer period.. why chase after someone when there is no solid guarantee that he will get his Spanish passport or any other kind of document that allows him to play in the UK in the near future if at all! Having said that though, thoroughly pleased at the 3-0 win at Ipswich.. sounded like some upped their game somewhat and that's what we need EVERY game.. not just the odd one. Rob_in_Tulsa
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