Ulloa deal hinges on passport (From The Argus)

mickygullhove wrote:
well done gus,you have been promissing us a top striker for over a year now, and at last you have found one. he is a spanish second division player, but wait a minute he has,nt got a passport, and not likely to get one. what a great piece of work by gus and his backroom boys. I bet he will score a load of goals for us in spain.

hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present

what would we get here for that money?

Thoughts anyone

UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,

fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !

Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present

what would we get here for that money?

Thoughts anyone

UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Valued by whom?

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !

Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !

Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?

hannover seagull wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present

what would we get here for that money?

Thoughts anyone

UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Valued by whom?

Transfermarkt.co.uk/

ulloa

Independent valuation of footballers

fratsomrover wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !

Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?

My scouting days were many years back now and it was Arsenal who were the main beneficiaries. Still that's another story. I've always been an Albion supporter and always will be and I dont see why my realistic views should be deemed negative. I just stated a fact that Almeira have failed to score in 9 of their last 12 matches. Maybe Ulloa wasn't even playing ??

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

hannover seagull wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present

what would we get here for that money?

Thoughts anyone

UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Valued by whom?

Transfermarkt.co.uk/


ulloa

Independent valuation of footballers

Interesting site, but they value CMS at £2.2-2.5m, Buckley at £1.3-1.5m and, most ridiculously, Bridcutt at £650-750k. Their formulae/algorithms need some tweaking!

hannover seagull wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

hannover seagull wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present

what would we get here for that money?

Thoughts anyone

UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Valued by whom?

Transfermarkt.co.uk/



ulloa

Independent valuation of footballers

Interesting site, but they value CMS at £2.2-2.5m, Buckley at £1.3-1.5m and, most ridiculously, Bridcutt at £650-750k. Their formulae/algorithms need some tweaking!

Agreed

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

fratsomrover wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

fratsomrover wrote: All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing ! Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !

Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?

My scouting days were many years back now and it was Arsenal who were the main beneficiaries. Still that's another story. I've always been an Albion supporter and always will be and I dont see why my realistic views should be deemed negative. I just stated a fact that Almeira have failed to score in 9 of their last 12 matches. Maybe Ulloa wasn't even playing ??

I'm not sure that saying "not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship" can be seen as anything other than moderately negative. Do you not think Gus and his staff have sussed him out and think he probably IS good enough for the Championship? They don't just go down a list of foreign players and say "We'll have that one".

fratsomrover wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !

Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?

My scouting days were many years back now and it was Arsenal who were the main beneficiaries. Still that's another story. I've always been an Albion supporter and always will be and I dont see why my realistic views should be deemed negative. I just stated a fact that Almeira have failed to score in 9 of their last 12 matches. Maybe Ulloa wasn't even playing ??

fratsomrover wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !

Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?

My scouting days were many years back now and it was Arsenal who were the main beneficiaries. Still that's another story. I've always been an Albion supporter and always will be and I dont see why my realistic views should be deemed negative. I just stated a fact that Almeira have failed to score in 9 of their last 12 matches. Maybe Ulloa wasn't even playing ??

hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present what would we get here for that money? Thoughts anyone UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,

seagullsays wrote:
I don't know how these things work, but I wonder why he hasn't sorted out the passport issue in the last few months. If it was the only thing stopping the deal in August, that indicates he's keen to come us (or at least expand his options), so why is this still an issue? Anyone any ideas? Goalscoring ratio is certainly decent, and at 6foot plus, fits the bill physically. Hope it gets done.

fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !

mickygullhove wrote:
well done gus,you have been promissing us a top striker for over a year now, and at last you have found one. he is a spanish second division player, but wait a minute he has,nt got a passport, and not likely to get one. what a great piece of work by gus and his backroom boys. I bet he will score a load of goals for us in spain.

mickygullhove wrote:
well done gus,you have been promissing us a top striker for over a year now, and at last you have found one. he is a spanish second division player, but wait a minute he has,nt got a passport, and not likely to get one. what a great piece of work by gus and his backroom boys. I bet he will score a load of goals for us in spain.

VegasSeagull wrote:
There have been several postings on here in recent times calling for Gus to look in the lower home divisions to find a striker, and that might be a good idea.
If this guy is playing in spanish div 2, and if some think that that division equates to our div one, I don't see a problem.

It all sounds a tad elitetist to say that a player from spanish div two is not up to our standard, just who do you think we are? The guy is being marked down as a failure and he hasn't even pulled on the stripes as of yet.

mickygullhove wrote:
well done gus,you have been promissing us a top striker for over a year now, and at last you have found one. he is a spanish second division player, but wait a minute he has,nt got a passport, and not likely to get one. what a great piece of work by gus and his backroom boys. I bet he will score a load of goals for us in spain.

russellsnr2 wrote:
Hi, Sorry but do you really think that Gus and Mr Bloom would spend the money on a player if he was not up to what they want from a player? They must also no that a passport is on the horizon or they would not be wasting there time. The problem is IMO that we have been saying for sometime that we need a striker and a quality one at that and as supporters we kind of go into free fall with dreams of a big name or names coming to the club. We have to step back and look at how far we have come as a club over the last three years and big name players will come to play for the club but not just yet we are not really in the roll of things a big club yet but we will get there and when we do that is when really big names will come to play for us, (1) because we will be able to afford the wages (2) we will be a premiership club (3) We will be playing in Europe, but this all takes time and money. So be patient because as they say "All good things come to those who wait".

tug509 wrote:

fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !

Im as optomistic as they get,but he has scored 4 times this season,and is 5`11``,and 11st 8lb,not the big target man we were looking for,so presumably he is the second stiker and not Gus` first choice?...UTA

hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present what would we get here for that money? Thoughts anyone UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,

tug509 wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: There have been several postings on here in recent times calling for Gus to look in the lower home divisions to find a striker, and that might be a good idea. If this guy is playing in spanish div 2, and if some think that that division equates to our div one, I don't see a problem. It all sounds a tad elitetist to say that a player from spanish div two is not up to our standard, just who do you think we are? The guy is being marked down as a failure and he hasn't even pulled on the stripes as of yet.

Hi Vegas,im not sure if people are dismissive of this guy,but think that on top of the paperwork issues,he is the 3rd highest scorer at Almeria,would you spend the clubs money on 3rd best?. As i already said ,he is not the big strong target man Gus has been talking about for over a year. people on here have regularly stated their belief that certain players we have bought were a waste of money,and it is understandable that we dont repeat that mistake!. Also if this guy is that good ,how come he hasn`t been picked up by a bigger club in Spain in the last 5 years?. I agree with some of the above,we need to get our targets that ARE available,before we miss out again!!. UTA

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

hannover seagull wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present

what would we get here for that money?

Thoughts anyone

UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Valued by whom?

Transfermarkt.co.uk/


ulloa

Independent valuation of footballers

Interesting site, but they value CMS at £2.2-2.5m, Buckley at £1.3-1.5m and, most ridiculously, Bridcutt at £650-750k. Their formulae/algorithms need some tweaking!

CAKEBEARD wrote:

mickygullhove wrote: well done gus,you have been promissing us a top striker for over a year now, and at last you have found one. he is a spanish second division player, but wait a minute he has,nt got a passport, and not likely to get one. what a great piece of work by gus and his backroom boys. I bet he will score a load of goals for us in spain.

Yes, a dangerous game and not like he's proven at top level! we'll probably end up scraping the barrel!

VegasSeagull wrote:
For those that, 'KNOW,' that this guy is not good enough to play for Brighton, those that are so clever they don't even have to see him play to tell Gus he should look elsewhere, I have a question for you and it is this;

Does your vast inteligence tell you that the wheel was invented, do you KNOW this for a fact, if you do, you are WRONG, the wheel was never invented or discovered.

Those of us with minds capable of flexible thinking indeed do KNOW what was invented, it was a circle, and one of the attributes of a circle is that it can be turned into a wheel.

When the time comes that those that KNOW so much, can offer comments that are based on open minded thinking rather than dogmatic assumptions, when that happens, then they can tell us whether this player is right or wrong for Brighton, and say why.

Untill that day comes I will leave them to carry on KNOWING that the wheel was invented and I will continue to treat their knowledge with the contempt it deserves.

tug509 wrote:
Vegas ,the three players at our great club that we are worried about losing are,our best striker,best midfield,and best winger,the three strikers that have been mentioned on this site the most are the best at their respective clubs,so again i ask why would we want Almerias third best?. Of course i dont know any information about this man for a fact,not even the guys on here that live in Spain have claimed that,but isn`t that what this forum is for,discussion,or did i get that wrong as well?. We can not afford to replicate the Vicente saga,or tie up much needed capital in players such as (sparrow,vincelot,ev en as valuable as he could be,harley ) or any other fringe player that is not being used but is drawing a wage that could be better used on a top player. If Ulloa is as good as you seem to think then why hasn`t he drawn more attention?. Everyone that we want is also wanted by other teams,but not this guy. I have absolutely nothing against Ulloa,but he does seem an unproven quantity,and another Vicente could criple the finances for further transfers. Gus play it safe and bring in proven quality ,that wont come with baggage,or moan about playing in the rain. By the way,the circle was not invented,it is a natural occurrence within nature!. UTA

BobbyLaverick wrote:
Please, please Mr Poyet, persevere, pressurise and petition parliamentary people/prime minister for the passport. Poor players present problems that plague passionate public popularity, predominantly when perusing playbacks of pitchplay and passing pithy phrases in posts. Potential playmakers please most posters, by placating planks from posting, period.

seagullsays wrote:

tug509 wrote:

fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !

Im as optomistic as they get,but he has scored 4 times this season,and is 5`11``,and 11st 8lb,not the big target man we were looking for,so presumably he is the second stiker and not Gus` first choice?...UTA

According to the Almeria website, he's 1.90m and 85 kilos. That's 6ft 2inches and 13st 5lbs. Sounds like a big enough target to me.

Hovite wrote:
Some stats here;

http://www.soccerbas

e.com/players/player

.sd?player_id=54111&
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season_id=141

Hovite wrote:

Hovite wrote:
Some stats here;

http://www.soccerbas


e.com/players/player


.sd?player_id=54111&
amp;
amp;
season_id=141

Have you tried this link to his stats Tug?

VegasSeagull wrote:
Just a comment on some of the players bought in by Gus, players that we no longer need. I do wish that people would see these guys for what they are and were when signed. Last season the players got us to the top ten of the division, that was their role, in fact 10th might have been higher than expected. The guys did what was asked and expected of them. Today, this season, we have bigger aspirations and some of those players might not fit the bill now, but that does not mean that they were bad signings. Those players that are now considered fringe players did a job for us, to constantly bang on about how they are not good enough now is a waste of effort. You buy to achieve targets, last year we reached our target, maybe even surpassed it.

Hovite wrote:
I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon. Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote: Just a comment on some of the players bought in by Gus, players that we no longer need. I do wish that people would see these guys for what they are and were when signed. Last season the players got us to the top ten of the division, that was their role, in fact 10th might have been higher than expected. The guys did what was asked and expected of them. Today, this season, we have bigger aspirations and some of those players might not fit the bill now, but that does not mean that they were bad signings. Those players that are now considered fringe players did a job for us, to constantly bang on about how they are not good enough now is a waste of effort. You buy to achieve targets, last year we reached our target, maybe even surpassed it.

Interesting. A few posts earlier you were condescendingly critical of posters stating opinion as fact - in your opinion. Much of this post of opionion stated as fact - in my humble opinion... And we all 'know' the circle is actually just a square with the corners knocked off.

Hovite wrote:
If you scroll down the page and select his 2011 - 2012 season you can see last seasons goal form. 28 goals in 38 games, worth a punt I'd say.

Hovite wrote:
I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon.

Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.

Hovite wrote:
I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon. Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.

Hovite wrote:
If you scroll down the page and select his 2011 - 2012 season you can see last seasons goal form.

28 goals in 38 games, worth a punt I'd say.

BobbyLaverick wrote:
Please, please Mr Poyet, persevere, pressurise and petition parliamentary people/prime minister for the passport. Poor players present problems that plague passionate public popularity, predominantly when perusing playbacks of pitchplay and passing pithy phrases in posts. Potential playmakers please most posters, by placating planks from posting, period.

VegasSeagull wrote:

Hovite wrote:
I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon. Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.

isn't a square with the corners knocked off nothing more than a damaged square?

Alfie T wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !

Well, it's a very good job you're not doing the scouting, isn't it?

Agreed,Fratsomrover has to be one of the most negative & pessimistic posters on here. Perhaps a change of club is needed, try Gillingham or Crawley.

russellsnr2 wrote:
Hi, Sorry but do you really think that Gus and Mr Bloom would spend the money on a player if he was not up to what they want from a player?
They must also no that a passport is on the horizon or they would not be wasting there time.
The problem is IMO that we have been saying for sometime that we need a striker and a quality one at that and as supporters we kind of go into free fall with dreams of a big name or names coming to the club. We have to step back and look at how far we have come as a club over the last three years and big name players will come to play for the club but not just yet we are not really in the roll of things a big club yet but we will get there and when we do that is when really big names will come to play for us, (1) because we will be able to afford the wages (2) we will be a premiership club (3) We will be playing in Europe, but this all takes time and money. So be patient because as they say "All good things come to those who wait".

russellsnr2 wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:

Hovite wrote:
I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon. Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.

isn't a square with the corners knocked off nothing more than a damaged square?

Na!! It's a football pitch!!!!

russellsnr2 wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:

Hovite wrote: I though a quare with its corners knocked off was an octagon. Besides, the wheel was easy, it was the axle system that was the tricky bit.

isn't a square with the corners knocked off nothing more than a damaged square?

Na!! It's a football pitch!!!!

fan since 61 wrote:
It seems to me that this striker issue has come at the right time for all you knockers, after Ipswich you seemed stuck for words

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
Just a comment on some of the players bought in by Gus, players that we no longer need. I do wish that people would see these guys for what they are and were when signed. Last season the players got us to the top ten of the division, that was their role, in fact 10th might have been higher than expected. The guys did what was asked and expected of them. Today, this season, we have bigger aspirations and some of those players might not fit the bill now, but that does not mean that they were bad signings. Those players that are now considered fringe players did a job for us, to constantly bang on about how they are not good enough now is a waste of effort. You buy to achieve targets, last year we reached our target, maybe even surpassed it.

Interesting. A few posts earlier you were condescendingly critical of posters stating opinion as fact - in your opinion. Much of this post of opionion stated as fact - in my humble opinion...

And we all 'know' the circle is actually just a square with the corners knocked off.

reagull wrote:
Vicente Spotted!....I have just seen the lesser striped Vicente, wife and child shopping in Holmbush Tesco , might be some clue to how his wages are set up?

or perhaps no one had told him that M&S is next door....?

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
Just a comment on some of the players bought in by Gus, players that we no longer need. I do wish that people would see these guys for what they are and were when signed. Last season the players got us to the top ten of the division, that was their role, in fact 10th might have been higher than expected. The guys did what was asked and expected of them. Today, this season, we have bigger aspirations and some of those players might not fit the bill now, but that does not mean that they were bad signings. Those players that are now considered fringe players did a job for us, to constantly bang on about how they are not good enough now is a waste of effort. You buy to achieve targets, last year we reached our target, maybe even surpassed it.

Interesting. A few posts earlier you were condescendingly critical of posters stating opinion as fact - in your opinion. Much of this post of opionion stated as fact - in my humble opinion...

And we all 'know' the circle is actually just a square with the corners knocked off.

rusty dave wrote:

russellsnr2 wrote:
Hi, Sorry but do you really think that Gus and Mr Bloom would spend the money on a player if he was not up to what they want from a player?
They must also no that a passport is on the horizon or they would not be wasting there time.
The problem is IMO that we have been saying for sometime that we need a striker and a quality one at that and as supporters we kind of go into free fall with dreams of a big name or names coming to the club. We have to step back and look at how far we have come as a club over the last three years and big name players will come to play for the club but not just yet we are not really in the roll of things a big club yet but we will get there and when we do that is when really big names will come to play for us, (1) because we will be able to afford the wages (2) we will be a premiership club (3) We will be playing in Europe, but this all takes time and money. So be patient because as they say "All good things come to those who wait".

Spot On !!!!!!! Lets just see how Portsmouth are doing right now eh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sussexram40 wrote:
Find somebody else now is my advice. It all sounds very uncertain and if we hang on till mid January all the other possibilities will have been snapped up.

Claude Back wrote:

fan since 61 wrote: It seems to me that this striker issue has come at the right time for all you knockers, after Ipswich you seemed stuck for words

I like knockers.... but I fully realise some people in the Brighton community won't. ;-)

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

Claude Back wrote:

fan since 61 wrote: It seems to me that this striker issue has come at the right time for all you knockers, after Ipswich you seemed stuck for words

I like knockers.... but I fully realise some people in the Brighton community won't. ;-)

Why, Claude - they've all got front doors, haven't they..? I've seen some fine examples of truly splendid knockers when walking along the seafront, admiring the architecture. Me walking, that is, not the knockers...

weststandupperlacost
earmy wrote:

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

Claude Back wrote:

fan since 61 wrote: It seems to me that this striker issue has come at the right time for all you knockers, after Ipswich you seemed stuck for words

I like knockers.... but I fully realise some people in the Brighton community won't. ;-)

Why, Claude - they've all got front doors, haven't they..? I've seen some fine examples of truly splendid knockers when walking along the seafront, admiring the architecture. Me walking, that is, not the knockers...

you need Knockers in life!!! and they come in all shapes and sizes...lovely jubbly x

weststandupperlacost
earmy wrote:

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
Just a comment on some of the players bought in by Gus, players that we no longer need. I do wish that people would see these guys for what they are and were when signed. Last season the players got us to the top ten of the division, that was their role, in fact 10th might have been higher than expected. The guys did what was asked and expected of them. Today, this season, we have bigger aspirations and some of those players might not fit the bill now, but that does not mean that they were bad signings. Those players that are now considered fringe players did a job for us, to constantly bang on about how they are not good enough now is a waste of effort. You buy to achieve targets, last year we reached our target, maybe even surpassed it.

Interesting. A few posts earlier you were condescendingly critical of posters stating opinion as fact - in your opinion. Much of this post of opionion stated as fact - in my humble opinion...

And we all 'know' the circle is actually just a square with the corners knocked off.

...Or is it a circle with 4 right angles added???

BobbyLaverick wrote:
Please, please Mr Poyet, persevere, pressurise and petition parliamentary people/prime minister for the passport. Poor players present problems that plague passionate public popularity, predominantly when perusing playbacks of pitchplay and passing pithy phrases in posts. Potential playmakers please most posters, by placating planks from posting, period.

VegasSeagull wrote:
For those that, 'KNOW,' that this guy is not good enough to play for Brighton, those that are so clever they don't even have to see him play to tell Gus he should look elsewhere, I have a question for you and it is this;

Does your vast inteligence tell you that the wheel was invented, do you KNOW this for a fact, if you do, you are WRONG, the wheel was never invented or discovered.

Those of us with minds capable of flexible thinking indeed do KNOW what was invented, it was a circle, and one of the attributes of a circle is that it can be turned into a wheel.

When the time comes that those that KNOW so much, can offer comments that are based on open minded thinking rather than dogmatic assumptions, when that happens, then they can tell us whether this player is right or wrong for Brighton, and say why.

Untill that day comes I will leave them to carry on KNOWING that the wheel was invented and I will continue to treat their knowledge with the contempt it deserves.

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

weststandupperlacost

earmy wrote:

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

Claude Back wrote:

fan since 61 wrote: It seems to me that this striker issue has come at the right time for all you knockers, after Ipswich you seemed stuck for words

I like knockers.... but I fully realise some people in the Brighton community won't. ;-)

Why, Claude - they've all got front doors, haven't they..? I've seen some fine examples of truly splendid knockers when walking along the seafront, admiring the architecture. Me walking, that is, not the knockers...

you need Knockers in life!!! and they come in all shapes and sizes...lovely jubbly x

We could bring this thread full circle (that circle again) by linking these comments to centre forwards. The big ones up front always get the most attention and are the hardest to keep under control. Gus has clearly decided he likes big ones...

Hovite wrote:
I won't mention Gully's girls, but cold and wet weather conditions is a bonus.

Claude Back wrote:

BobbyLaverick wrote:
Please, please Mr Poyet, persevere, pressurise and petition parliamentary people/prime minister for the passport. Poor players present problems that plague passionate public popularity, predominantly when perusing playbacks of pitchplay and passing pithy phrases in posts. Potential playmakers please most posters, by placating planks from posting, period.

You probably have a propensity for popular alliteration? ;-)

consultsmithy wrote:
Personally I can't see why we'd be particularly interested in a Spanish 2nd division striker. Is their 2nd division so much better than ours? Also why should this Argentinian guy be given a European passport? Spanish unemployment stands at 26%, with youth unemployment (18-25) at a shocking 53%! He can hardly be considered an essential worker, and the second divisions of Spain and England should be the breeding grounds for young local talent. JF-C anybody?

consultsmithy wrote:
Personally I can't see why we'd be particularly interested in a Spanish 2nd division striker. Is their 2nd division so much better than ours? Also why should this Argentinian guy be given a European passport? Spanish unemployment stands at 26%, with youth unemployment (18-25) at a shocking 53%! He can hardly be considered an essential worker, and the second divisions of Spain and England should be the breeding grounds for young local talent. JF-C anybody?

hannover seagull wrote:
Valued at 2.2 to 2.5 million at present

what would we get here for that money?

Thoughts anyone

UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,

JoeBlow wrote:

consultsmithy wrote:
Personally I can't see why we'd be particularly interested in a Spanish 2nd division striker. Is their 2nd division so much better than ours? Also why should this Argentinian guy be given a European passport? Spanish unemployment stands at 26%, with youth unemployment (18-25) at a shocking 53%! He can hardly be considered an essential worker, and the second divisions of Spain and England should be the breeding grounds for young local talent. JF-C anybody?

Is that the JF-C who can only make the bench for Oxford at the moment, and then isn't one of the three subs used? That JF-C?

Hovite wrote:
Yeah cub scouts, Dib Dib Dib Dob Dob Dob

fratsomrover wrote:
All sounds a little odd to me. They tried to get him in August but couldn't because of passport issues. Now they are trying to get him January but the passport issues still persist. If it was an issue back in August, what has been going on to resolve the problem in the interim period........ nothing !
Also not sure how good a Spanish second division player will be in The Championship. But for the record Almeira have not scored a goal in 9 of their last 12 matches, so he can hardly be the prolific scorer we been promised !

Baldseagull wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:
For those that, 'KNOW,' that this guy is not good enough to play for Brighton, those that are so clever they don't even have to see him play to tell Gus he should look elsewhere, I have a question for you and it is this;

Does your vast inteligence tell you that the wheel was invented, do you KNOW this for a fact, if you do, you are WRONG, the wheel was never invented or discovered.

Those of us with minds capable of flexible thinking indeed do KNOW what was invented, it was a circle, and one of the attributes of a circle is that it can be turned into a wheel.

When the time comes that those that KNOW so much, can offer comments that are based on open minded thinking rather than dogmatic assumptions, when that happens, then they can tell us whether this player is right or wrong for Brighton, and say why.

Untill that day comes I will leave them to carry on KNOWING that the wheel was invented and I will continue to treat their knowledge with the contempt it deserves.

Not fussed if no-one comes in, so long as we hold on to everyone we want to stay. The players we have can do the job if they find their form, and I think they will.
Aside from new signings, I believe JFC will be back from Oxford, could be his time now.