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Poyet: We deserved that win (From The Argus)
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Poyet: We deserved that win
6:14pm Saturday 12th January 2013 in Sport By Brian Owen
Liam Bridcutt on the ball for Albion against Derby
Gus Poyet praised Albion’s flying start at The Amex – and said his side deserved their win over Derby.
Ashley Barnes and Andrea Orlandi netted in the first half-hour but Jeff Hendrick’s second-half reply put home nerves on edge.
Boss Poyet said: "You need to start well and if you have a chance you’ve got to score.
“I think the movement (for the first goal) was very good, even looked easy.
“Then when you have David Lopez on the ball you know he would wait for the player (Barnes) to be free before passing it.
“That was the calmness you need to be play at home and be a little bit more relaxed.
“Then with the second shot on target we scored the second which was even better so overall I thought it was a totally deserved win.”
Poyet admitted Derby made life more uncomfortable in the last 20 minutes.
He added: “We made a few silly fouls and we gave them a chance.
“Our keeper today didn’t make a save so I don’t think there is too much to complain about."
Comments(81)
pauldanno
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6:39pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Ohnotagain !
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6:49pm Sat 12 Jan 13
pauldanno wrote:None,
I heard two different rumours at the Amex this afternooon, Macca at Leeds and at Norwich, do either have substance?
He has a slight hamstring injury,
Apparently !!!
Bridcutt though, OUTSTANDING..
VegasSeagull
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6:51pm Sat 12 Jan 13
pauldanno wrote:Didn't we hear similar rumours when Buckley was announced to be injured a couple of weeks back.
I heard two different rumours at the Amex this afternooon, Macca at Leeds and at Norwich, do either have substance?
I put no stock in the rumours as we have been told why he was left out.
pablobrowno
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6:53pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Albion In Staffs
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7:03pm Sat 12 Jan 13
dbarnard2
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7:03pm Sat 12 Jan 13
wiseman of hove
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7:05pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Barnes introduced today into the central role, which in the first half, he did very well and with Ulloa apparently imminent.
Perverse as it may sound as Hoskins did not appear today, I also have a feeling that Hoskins is 'ahead' of CMS in the striking pecking order. Interesting situation.
Alfie T
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7:20pm Sat 12 Jan 13
mark by the sea
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7:20pm Sat 12 Jan 13
namgo49
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7:25pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Still don't really think Lopez has it.
fairweathersupporter
says...
7:31pm Sat 12 Jan 13
I am the little troll;
A wind up merchant if you will,
I pray upon your passions, for my cheapest of thrills.
I trade upon half-truths and your insecurities,
I have many guises and you know it’s just a bit of a tease;
You may think I’m stupid but I may have several degrees…
But you will never know, as I hide behind these keys.
I may be sad or lonely,
I may be strong and wise;
The beauty of my darkness…
The replies, the replies.
So humour me mere mortals,
You are all so kind.
And spot me if you can,
I am a legend in my own mind.
namgo49
says...
7:32pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Howie2
says...
7:35pm Sat 12 Jan 13
championshipgull
says...
7:37pm Sat 12 Jan 13
VegasSeagull
says...
7:43pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Gus has made it very clear to all suitors for any of our players that they will pay dearly to get them, we don't need to sell.
Bringing in Ulloa is not to replace anyone, it's to add to those we have.
I am sure that had he not shown that he has a slight injury he would have played today. You don't leave your top goal scorer out of what was in effect a 6 point match.
Old Scrote of the Amex
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7:45pm Sat 12 Jan 13
namgo49 wrote:I thought Lopez played well: set up the first goal, set up Calde to set up the second, played an amazing cross-field ball second half, couple of delightful flicks. Barnes was excellent - not sure why he gets so slated - and Bridders was awesome again. Brilliant, BRILLANT bit of skill when sold short to dribble out of trouble against three opponents.
Barnes played well for 60 minutes then tailed off. There were a couple of times when you saw opportunities and thought "Oh for CMS' pace!!" He would have scored today at least once, may have got a hat trick.
Still don't really think Lopez has it.
Oh, and for those who didn't get the memo, CMS WAS INJURED!
PS: Literally bumped right into David Platt - I presume he was there to watch the Derby lad.
Old Scrote of the Amex
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7:46pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Howie2 wrote:As the match went on he seemed to be making decisions by rolling a dice. Truly bizarre performance.
Don't understand why Barnes was put back into midfield and Buckley went to CF. It was working well with Barnes up front. Why change it ? The ref was one of the worst ever. he and his linesmen got so many decisions wrong it was laughable. In a match he would have been substituted at half time !
fratsomrover
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7:50pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Howie2 wrote:I dont understand why Barnes was on the field. No pace, cant pass, pretty inept all round. Dont understand why Hoskins isn't playing. Great opportunity for him after opening his account last week with CMS injured, but no, Gus goes with good old limited Barnes.
Don't understand why Barnes was put back into midfield and Buckley went to CF. It was working well with Barnes up front. Why change it ? The ref was one of the worst ever. he and his linesmen got so many decisions wrong it was laughable. In a match he would have been substituted at half time !
Other than that, great start, good first half with what was really quite a defensive set up for a home game, but failure to score that third goal put us in a panic again and we were hanging on in the end. Results went in our favour so still knocking on the door, but to be honest I thought we were in for a 3 or 4 goal victory today and it ended up as a bit of a scrape through. Bridcutt was magnificent and I really hope he stays but I cant believe someone wont come in for him. Hope the offer is not one "we cant refuse" .
Old Scrote of the Amex
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7:53pm Sat 12 Jan 13
VegasSeagull
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8:04pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:You just can't please some people.
fratsomrover = Barnes hater... he was superb for us today. Which game were you watching?
Platt might have been there to look at one or two of our lads, Bridcutt springs to mind, but I hope not.
brightonup
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8:08pm Sat 12 Jan 13
fairweathersupporter wrote:Nice one!
You know who you are. I am the little troll; A wind up merchant if you will, I pray upon your passions, for my cheapest of thrills. I trade upon half-truths and your insecurities, I have many guises and you know it’s just a bit of a tease; You may think I’m stupid but I may have several degrees… But you will never know, as I hide behind these keys. I may be sad or lonely, I may be strong and wise; The beauty of my darkness… The replies, the replies. So humour me mere mortals, You are all so kind. And spot me if you can, I am a legend in my own mind.
wiseman of hove
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8:13pm Sat 12 Jan 13
saintkenny
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8:38pm Sat 12 Jan 13
MelsTels
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8:40pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Trabattini at match along with David Platt, who may have been looking at Bridge - he's still a Man C player. Can't seem to name drop anymore - so over to comments
Far gull
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8:43pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Cms missed in second half but must say not in first much to my surprise. Looking forward to Ulloa giving more competition and a different dimension.
Bucket feet Duffy
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8:45pm Sat 12 Jan 13
pablobrowno wrote:Barnes excellent what game were you watching, he had a simple tap and scored a goal that was more difficult to miss, then proceeded to miss control the ball consistantly lose the ball, he did play better than on other occasions but far from excellent IMO
If Leeds want Macca, and they may be looking for a marquee signing to satisfy the fans, then I think we should sell. He has wonderful attributes but it really hasn't clicked has it. We didn't miss him today did we and wasn't Barnes excellent in that central role.
ballantrrae
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8:53pm Sat 12 Jan 13
The Albion only had 41% possession and yet Kuszczak wasn't tested.
In the first half we had two goal attempts and score twice.
It was almost like watching all our earlier matches this season when we dominated but didn't win, only IN REVERSE.
I thought the central midfield looked weak, Derby seemed to get on top in that area. Even Bridcutt, excellent as he was, didn't seem to be quite at his best today. Other than with the two goals we lacked sharpness, and appeared a little flat. Perhaps it was the weather even the fans seemed subdued.
I really felt we missed CMS's runs, enegy and work rate - I gather he has a hamstring problem. Barnes I thought did quite a good job up front in the first half especially in light of the fact he hasn't played there recently. I assume he was moved out to the right in the second half with Buckley going to the centre with the intention of the Albion pinging the ball over the top behind the Derby defence to exploit Buckley's pace. Unfortunately that only happened a couple of times although on one of them Buckley nearly scored..
Still feel we need a powerful midfilder - even more so after today.
I see that one of the Almeria management (In the Argus today) says that Ulloa is very strong in the air although he isn't quick apparently. At last we might have someone who can get on the end of all those crosses into the box. The Argus also says that the Ulloa fee is rumoured to be around £2 million - previously I had heard a figure of Euro 2 million being mentioned which is around £1,65 million.
Three away games in a row now in the League (Birmingham, Blackburn and Sheffield). If we could win 2 out of 3 we would be well positioned. Fingers crossed.
fanxtony
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8:59pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Far gull
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9:00pm Sat 12 Jan 13
ballantrrae wrote:Good summming up of game. Would add we pumped more long balls today than in all of the hm games added together and ref midfield still think dicker offers more than Hammond or crofts ?
Strange game.
The Albion only had 41% possession and yet Kuszczak wasn't tested.
In the first half we had two goal attempts and score twice.
It was almost like watching all our earlier matches this season when we dominated but didn't win, only IN REVERSE.
I thought the central midfield looked weak, Derby seemed to get on top in that area. Even Bridcutt, excellent as he was, didn't seem to be quite at his best today. Other than with the two goals we lacked sharpness, and appeared a little flat. Perhaps it was the weather even the fans seemed subdued.
I really felt we missed CMS's runs, enegy and work rate - I gather he has a hamstring problem. Barnes I thought did quite a good job up front in the first half especially in light of the fact he hasn't played there recently. I assume he was moved out to the right in the second half with Buckley going to the centre with the intention of the Albion pinging the ball over the top behind the Derby defence to exploit Buckley's pace. Unfortunately that only happened a couple of times although on one of them Buckley nearly scored..
Still feel we need a powerful midfilder - even more so after today.
I see that one of the Almeria management (In the Argus today) says that Ulloa is very strong in the air although he isn't quick apparently. At last we might have someone who can get on the end of all those crosses into the box. The Argus also says that the Ulloa fee is rumoured to be around £2 million - previously I had heard a figure of Euro 2 million being mentioned which is around £1,65 million.
Three away games in a row now in the League (Birmingham, Blackburn and Sheffield). If we could win 2 out of 3 we would be well positioned. Fingers crossed.
Hovite
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9:24pm Sat 12 Jan 13
fairweathersupporter wrote:Good job.
You know who you are.
I am the little troll;
A wind up merchant if you will,
I pray upon your passions, for my cheapest of thrills.
I trade upon half-truths and your insecurities,
I have many guises and you know it’s just a bit of a tease;
You may think I’m stupid but I may have several degrees…
But you will never know, as I hide behind these keys.
I may be sad or lonely,
I may be strong and wise;
The beauty of my darkness…
The replies, the replies.
So humour me mere mortals,
You are all so kind.
And spot me if you can,
I am a legend in my own mind.
By the way where is sussexram40 today?
pte
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9:31pm Sat 12 Jan 13
So January window + announcement of a big loss + big money signing = a big money sale
hannover seagull
says...
9:38pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Bought and sold average items every week to make turnover and keep afloat.
Every now and again you came across a gem that you thought,hello, quick profit or long haul?
The problem is when you get rid of your best stock you have to replace it
with something as good if not better.
Hard to find
Point is, Liam Bridcutt is the best I have seen in many years in a defensive midfield role which he has made his own and in my humble opinion , irreplaceable.
UTA.................
.............
mark by the sea
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9:46pm Sat 12 Jan 13
pte wrote:Why would that be? We have tracked ulloa or over 6 months, for those that say Hoskins should have started, what about Dobbie? Perhaps he is on his way? Would do a job for a lot of clubs? Perhaps he is off?
The timing of the announcement of two consecutive 8m operating loss in the january window maybe to prepare us for a big sale of a key player. The purchase of Ulloa may be funded by the sale of the player and a way of making up for the loss of the sold player
So January window + announcement of a big loss + big money signing = a big money sale
Lets concentrate on two things, we are certainties for top 6 if we find someone to convert chances.
And most importantly supporting the club.
Bucket feet Duffy
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9:47pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Barnes was better today, he was not superd had he been so we would have been out of site by the time their goal went in and had that been so the stuffing would have been well and truly knocked out of Derby.
fratsomrover = Barnes hater... he was superb for us today. Which game were you watching?
Barns is a good hard working pro who would be great for any league 1 team he is IMO and apparently others too neither technically adequate, and lacks pace to be a top championship player, more importantly he lacks pace to be able to be effective as a loan striker I our system of play.
That said I applaud his gutsy perfomances week In week out.
Far gull
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9:47pm Sat 12 Jan 13
hannover seagull wrote:Very true ! Only seen 'the water carrier' desamps and makele better . Interestingly both French !
In a previous working life, I owned an Antique shop
Bought and sold average items every week to make turnover and keep afloat.
Every now and again you came across a gem that you thought,hello, quick profit or long haul?
The problem is when you get rid of your best stock you have to replace it
with something as good if not better.
Hard to find
Point is, Liam Bridcutt is the best I have seen in many years in a defensive midfield role which he has made his own and in my humble opinion , irreplaceable.
UTA.................
.............
Think Roy Hodgson will be looking closely next be he with us or man city!
i luv my dog
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9:51pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Do we count season holders as there even if they are not as some clubs do or do we just count bums on seats?
mark by the sea
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9:52pm Sat 12 Jan 13
He is now at the top of his game, at 24 years of age, in his position ,,,really his best is yet to come..
Bucket feet Duffy
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9:58pm Sat 12 Jan 13
Source Sky Sports championship news
duncan 74
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11:48pm Sat 12 Jan 13
So next time one of you sad people wants to waste your time typing some pathetic remark just ask mummy if it is OK first.
Old Scrote of the Amex
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12:06am Sun 13 Jan 13
Bucket feet Duffy wrote:He scored one goal, set up what should have been our third, linked well with everyone. Different view, different opinion, but I thought he was excellent. (I've just noticed he was Gus's MoM too, so at least I'm not alone!)
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Barnes was better today, he was not superd had he been so we would have been out of site by the time their goal went in and had that been so the stuffing would have been well and truly knocked out of Derby.
fratsomrover = Barnes hater... he was superb for us today. Which game were you watching?
Barns is a good hard working pro who would be great for any league 1 team he is IMO and apparently others too neither technically adequate, and lacks pace to be a top championship player, more importantly he lacks pace to be able to be effective as a loan striker I our system of play.
That said I applaud his gutsy perfomances week In week out.
WisdomSpeaks
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3:34am Sun 13 Jan 13
wiseman of hove wrote:I agree. I think Bridcutt is different class to Barry. He was absolutely immense today. I also thought David Lopez played well.
With Bridcutt's sensational performance against Newcastle with all the attendant publicity, I think it quite likely that Platt made the trip from Manchester to watch him. Barry cannot go on forever and what has happened to Rodwell?
I think everyone was willing a third goal in the expectation that Vicente would then get some game time.
Still can't understand what Hoskins has to do to get a start. I think he'll get thoroughly **** off sooner than later. No mention of Dobbie at all.
I thought Derby played quite well without troubling us until they scored and then we defended too deep again.
Great result in the end.
jcd1972
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8:45am Sun 13 Jan 13
I can't understand why Gus didn't give Hoskins another opportunity on the back of the Newcastle game. imo bringing on Crofts and Dicker when substituting Buckley invited pressure. Why not bring Hoskins on so that we've got more of a threat upfront?
dave from bexill
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10:19am Sun 13 Jan 13
In case anyone out there is interested and hasn't heard it, there are two pieces on the BBC footy web championship page by our own Paul Barber, which help clarify and put into perspective the new rules regarding Fair Play, which hopefully you will find interesting. There is no doubt that the implications for the game are going to change it drastically and I don't know how clubs like Brighton will fare, in the short to medium period. I guess the bottom line will be that the Albion will get the team it can afford, so keep attending, eat more pies (I draw the line on that one) and keep supping the Harveys. UTA
fratsomrover
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10:26am Sun 13 Jan 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Silly comment Old Scrote. I hate nobody. Like you I have an opinion and I dont consider that a player of Barnes's calibre will (a) get us promotion, or (b) ever play in The Premiership. He is the least technically gifted of all our players and is probably the slowest over 20-30m. As an example, the incident you refer to where he "set up what should have been a third goal" should have been a goal for him. The pass release him for a clear run at goal but he didn't have the pace to stay in front of the defender and was forced to turn away and pass to Buckley. If the initial pass had been to Buckley, Lua Lua or CMS, they would have scored and not been forced to turn by the defender. Barnes had a reasonable first half, won a couple of headers held up the ball a couple of times, but was no where near as effective as say" Sammon was for Derby. I think Hoskins is sharper and more skillful than Barnes and I was disappointed he didn't get the nod following his display last week. Derby are a poor, young inexperienced side and we should have murdered them after the start we had. But in the end it was a struggle and it shouldn't have been. If Barnes was Gus's MoM then I would love to hear why. I have a sneaking feeling he may be just saying that to justify his inclusion. Liam Bridcutt was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch yesterday. He is simply immense for BHA and I would stake my life on him playing in the Premiership next season. I just hope it is with us. Does anyone else at the game yesterday feel that Bridcutt was not the MoM ?
Bucket feet Duffy wrote:He scored one goal, set up what should have been our third, linked well with everyone. Different view, different opinion, but I thought he was excellent. (I've just noticed he was Gus's MoM too, so at least I'm not alone!)
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Barnes was better today, he was not superd had he been so we would have been out of site by the time their goal went in and had that been so the stuffing would have been well and truly knocked out of Derby.
fratsomrover = Barnes hater... he was superb for us today. Which game were you watching?
Barns is a good hard working pro who would be great for any league 1 team he is IMO and apparently others too neither technically adequate, and lacks pace to be a top championship player, more importantly he lacks pace to be able to be effective as a loan striker I our system of play.
That said I applaud his gutsy perfomances week In week out.
Bucket feet Duffy
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10:42am Sun 13 Jan 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Time will tell Gus makes comments at times that a few of us wonder on.
Bucket feet Duffy wrote:He scored one goal, set up what should have been our third, linked well with everyone. Different view, different opinion, but I thought he was excellent. (I've just noticed he was Gus's MoM too, so at least I'm not alone!)
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Barnes was better today, he was not superd had he been so we would have been out of site by the time their goal went in and had that been so the stuffing would have been well and truly knocked out of Derby.
fratsomrover = Barnes hater... he was superb for us today. Which game were you watching?
Barns is a good hard working pro who would be great for any league 1 team he is IMO and apparently others too neither technically adequate, and lacks pace to be a top championship player, more importantly he lacks pace to be able to be effective as a loan striker I our system of play.
That said I applaud his gutsy perfomances week In week out.
Barns was put through clear at one point and didn't get the opertunity of a one on one with the keeper as he fluffed it something he did on more than one occasion but time will tell.
This guy is a good honest hard working pro and gets respect from supporters the problem with comments posted rather than words spoken is expression is lost, it could be you are in a different part of the stadium ?
saraman
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10:54am Sun 13 Jan 13
Cardiff
Hull
M'bro
Watford
Millwall
Brighton
Derby
Chalton
Peterboro (not sure)
Sh Wed
More than 50% change
It would appear that Gus Poyet is the second or third longest serving Championship manager. Speaks volumes for the man I would say. He's here for the long haul.
Baldseagull
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11:01am Sun 13 Jan 13
fratsomrover wrote:Bridcutt undoubtedly man of the match, but Barnes had a good game.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Silly comment Old Scrote. I hate nobody. Like you I have an opinion and I dont consider that a player of Barnes's calibre will (a) get us promotion, or (b) ever play in The Premiership. He is the least technically gifted of all our players and is probably the slowest over 20-30m. As an example, the incident you refer to where he "set up what should have been a third goal" should have been a goal for him. The pass release him for a clear run at goal but he didn't have the pace to stay in front of the defender and was forced to turn away and pass to Buckley. If the initial pass had been to Buckley, Lua Lua or CMS, they would have scored and not been forced to turn by the defender. Barnes had a reasonable first half, won a couple of headers held up the ball a couple of times, but was no where near as effective as say" Sammon was for Derby. I think Hoskins is sharper and more skillful than Barnes and I was disappointed he didn't get the nod following his display last week. Derby are a poor, young inexperienced side and we should have murdered them after the start we had. But in the end it was a struggle and it shouldn't have been. If Barnes was Gus's MoM then I would love to hear why. I have a sneaking feeling he may be just saying that to justify his inclusion. Liam Bridcutt was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch yesterday. He is simply immense for BHA and I would stake my life on him playing in the Premiership next season. I just hope it is with us. Does anyone else at the game yesterday feel that Bridcutt was not the MoM ?
Bucket feet Duffy wrote:He scored one goal, set up what should have been our third, linked well with everyone. Different view, different opinion, but I thought he was excellent. (I've just noticed he was Gus's MoM too, so at least I'm not alone!)
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Barnes was better today, he was not superd had he been so we would have been out of site by the time their goal went in and had that been so the stuffing would have been well and truly knocked out of Derby.
fratsomrover = Barnes hater... he was superb for us today. Which game were you watching?
Barns is a good hard working pro who would be great for any league 1 team he is IMO and apparently others too neither technically adequate, and lacks pace to be a top championship player, more importantly he lacks pace to be able to be effective as a loan striker I our system of play.
That said I applaud his gutsy perfomances week In week out.
Gus does not need to justify his inclusion, he did that himself, but it is good management to heap praise on a player that has raised his performance.
Bridcutt was excellent last season, but has improved further still, his timing on tackles is superb and his decision making on when to, and when to not, make a challenge is spot on in my opinion and he will get fewer bookings this year than last. Premier league for him next season I think, hopefully with us, next step after that, England?
GosportGull
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11:19am Sun 13 Jan 13
wiseman of hove wrote:Even more strange that Hoskins didn't start after his goal against Newcastle but Gus plays a winger upfront ? So maybe Hoskins is on his way too ? I sinscerely hope not .. and i have no idea what goes through GP's head sometimes ...
I just have a feeling that the admirable CMS is on his way - with Barnes introduced today into the central role, which in the first half, he did very well and with Ulloa apparently imminent. Perverse as it may sound as Hoskins did not appear today, I also have a feeling that Hoskins is 'ahead' of CMS in the striking pecking order. Interesting situation.
It worked today but Hoskins must wonder what he has to do to impress Poyet ahead of Barnes ?
Don't get me wrong , i love watching Buckley play , quality, pure quality but upfront when you have a striker that is playing well sat on the bench ...
That said , good performance and a great result .... maybe we will need a quicker CB sometime ...
Well done ALBION ... lets keep this run going ... Good to see Lopez have another good game and of course Bridcutt ..awesome :) And Vicente back on the bench ... its going to get harder to get a starting place in the team at this rate :)
Any news on JFC coming back ?
GG
Bucket feet Duffy
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11:25am Sun 13 Jan 13
GosportGull
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11:32am Sun 13 Jan 13
jcd1972 wrote:Im with you on that .. Hoskins scored a fantastic goal against Newcastle ...links up well tries hard and gets left on the bench !!! I dont understand it .. in favour of BARNES ??? I still dont think Ashley is good enough to be in the team ..but Gus however blindfolded, sees something that the majority of us simply don't !
another good professional performance and pleased to see us dispatch one of the teams that were around us in the table. Hopefully Ulloa will help us to be able to compete in the games when we play the current top 6. I can't understand why Gus didn't give Hoskins another opportunity on the back of the Newcastle game. imo bringing on Crofts and Dicker when substituting Buckley invited pressure. Why not bring Hoskins on so that we've got more of a threat upfront?
Im excited to watch Ulloa play ... i wonder if Gus will leave him in the development team for a few weeks until he learns our style of play ??? Im thinking not !!!
I personally think Crofts is better than Hammond or Dicker ... but we are lacking a big midfield prescence....oh and a quick , tall , powerful center back ... GG
Freeloaders
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11:35am Sun 13 Jan 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Sad thing is some fans now care more about how a player looks then what he brings to the team.The same people that didn't like the Gully girls.Anyway Bridcutt outstanding yet again.I just hope the club is looking at between 6 or 8 million for him.But really hope he stays as i love the guy."Not because he thinks himself a boyband member like some."But because he gives 100% almost every game.
fratsomrover = Barnes hater... he was superb for us today. Which game were you watching?
the taffster
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12:08pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Freeloaders wrote:cash in on bridders if it will clear the debts.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Sad thing is some fans now care more about how a player looks then what he brings to the team.The same people that didn't like the Gully girls.Anyway Bridcutt outstanding yet again.I just hope the club is looking at between 6 or 8 million for him.But really hope he stays as i love the guy."Not because he thinks himself a boyband member like some."But because he gives 100% almost every game.
fratsomrover = Barnes hater... he was superb for us today. Which game were you watching?
Seagullkid
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12:18pm Sun 13 Jan 13
duncan 74 wrote:now we know what you like like and your lifestyle.
Whenever I think of these people that come on here just to annoy people I just get one image. A man in his mid 40`s who lives with his mum still. Looks very much like Elmo from Brush strokes. Spends all day in his own room chuckling to himself about his pathetic remarks. Probably still has posters on his wall. And of course most obviously never had a girlfriend.
So next time one of you sad people wants to waste your time typing some pathetic remark just ask mummy if it is OK first.
sad but true but what a load of c**p to write must be talking about yourself.
get a life ask mummy if you can go out but only if you tidy your room up first!
Major Bloodboil
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12:19pm Sun 13 Jan 13
11:32am Sun 13 Jan 13
jcd1972 wrote:
another good professional performance and pleased to see us dispatch one of the teams that were around us in the table. Hopefully Ulloa will help us to be able to compete in the games when we play the current top 6. I can't understand why Gus didn't give Hoskins another opportunity on the back of the Newcastle game. imo bringing on Crofts and Dicker when substituting Buckley invited pressure. Why not bring Hoskins on so that we've got more of a threat upfront?
Im with you on that .. Hoskins scored a fantastic goal against Newcastle ...links up well tries hard and gets left on the bench !!! I dont understand it .. in favour of BARNES ??? I still dont think Ashley is good enough to be in the team ..but Gus however blindfolded, sees something that the majority of us simply don't !
Im excited to watch Ulloa play ... i wonder if Gus will leave him in the development team for a few weeks until he learns our style of play ??? Im thinking not !!!
I personally think Crofts is better than Hammond or Dicker ... but we are lacking a big midfield prescence....oh and a quick , tall , powerful center back ... GG
I totally agree with the above posts and can only think that we will never see Hoskins in the starting line up again with the arrival of Ulloa.
I think that Hoskins is better than Barnes by a street, but recall how good Barnes was when playing along side GM - have a look at some of the old Div 1 videos on the Seagull Player and see for yourselves. It may be that Barnes will profit from Ulloa's arrival - we can but hope so.
mark by the sea
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12:23pm Sun 13 Jan 13
the taffster wrote:How will it clear debts? We sell him we sink to mid table, gates drop to 20 000 and other players want to leave. Yes sell him end of season if and when we find a decent replacement..
Freeloaders wrote:cash in on bridders if it will clear the debts.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Sad thing is some fans now care more about how a player looks then what he brings to the team.The same people that didn't like the Gully girls.Anyway Bridcutt outstanding yet again.I just hope the club is looking at between 6 or 8 million for him.But really hope he stays as i love the guy."Not because he thinks himself a boyband member like some."But because he gives 100% almost every game.
fratsomrover = Barnes hater... he was superb for us today. Which game were you watching?
Of the 25000 there yesterday, the vast majority are new comers, we need to keep our best players, and build to the premiership.
championshipgull
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1:06pm Sun 13 Jan 13
mark by the sea wrote:Agree with MTBS but would like to add the timing of the announcement is more likely Paul Barber reminding fans that top class football needs to be paid for and with the financial fair play regulations coming it to effect, we can’t keep asking Tony Bloom to make up the short-fall. I personally think the cost of a ticket at the moment is a bargain.
pte wrote:Why would that be? We have tracked ulloa or over 6 months, for those that say Hoskins should have started, what about Dobbie? Perhaps he is on his way? Would do a job for a lot of clubs? Perhaps he is off?
The timing of the announcement of two consecutive 8m operating loss in the january window maybe to prepare us for a big sale of a key player. The purchase of Ulloa may be funded by the sale of the player and a way of making up for the loss of the sold player
So January window + announcement of a big loss + big money signing = a big money sale
Lets concentrate on two things, we are certainties for top 6 if we find someone to convert chances.
And most importantly supporting the club.
VegasSeagull
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1:06pm Sun 13 Jan 13
championshipgull
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1:15pm Sun 13 Jan 13
fairweathersupporter wrote:Excellent I have just printed it out and pinned it up, I will smile every time a troll comes on.
You know who you are.
I am the little troll;
A wind up merchant if you will,
I pray upon your passions, for my cheapest of thrills.
I trade upon half-truths and your insecurities,
I have many guises and you know it’s just a bit of a tease;
You may think I’m stupid but I may have several degrees…
But you will never know, as I hide behind these keys.
I may be sad or lonely,
I may be strong and wise;
The beauty of my darkness…
The replies, the replies.
So humour me mere mortals,
You are all so kind.
And spot me if you can,
I am a legend in my own mind.
tug509
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1:16pm Sun 13 Jan 13
jcd1972 wrote:Totally agree jcd,i have always been in favour of going for the jugular when you are in charge of a game,as you rightly say,we invited pressure on ourselves with not pressing forward with Hoskins.
another good professional performance and pleased to see us dispatch one of the teams that were around us in the table. Hopefully Ulloa will help us to be able to compete in the games when we play the current top 6.
I can't understand why Gus didn't give Hoskins another opportunity on the back of the Newcastle game. imo bringing on Crofts and Dicker when substituting Buckley invited pressure. Why not bring Hoskins on so that we've got more of a threat upfront?
We`ve all seen teams come from 2 down to take something from the game,when they should have been burried,Reading yesterday for instance. I truly hope Gus gives Hoskins a new contract,and a chance to prove himself,it would be a big mistake not to imho. UTA
jcd1972
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1:19pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Major Bloodboil wrote:Agree Hoskins is a better footballer than Barnes. What we've learnt though is that for Gus the shape of the side is the number 1 priority in football and he believes that Barnes helps to give him this. Barnes is much more disciplined than Dobbie for instance (sadly for him Dobbie had options and chose the wrong one when he came to Brighton). Hoskins though is a hard worker and a goal threat. One goal against the top 6 so far this season demonstrates that the shape of the side isn't everything. It's a pity Hoskins isn't given time to show what he is capable of. The time given to Orlandi and Lopez is now starting to pay dividends.
GosportGull says...
11:32am Sun 13 Jan 13
jcd1972 wrote:
another good professional performance and pleased to see us dispatch one of the teams that were around us in the table. Hopefully Ulloa will help us to be able to compete in the games when we play the current top 6. I can't understand why Gus didn't give Hoskins another opportunity on the back of the Newcastle game. imo bringing on Crofts and Dicker when substituting Buckley invited pressure. Why not bring Hoskins on so that we've got more of a threat upfront?
Im with you on that .. Hoskins scored a fantastic goal against Newcastle ...links up well tries hard and gets left on the bench !!! I dont understand it .. in favour of BARNES ??? I still dont think Ashley is good enough to be in the team ..but Gus however blindfolded, sees something that the majority of us simply don't !
Im excited to watch Ulloa play ... i wonder if Gus will leave him in the development team for a few weeks until he learns our style of play ??? Im thinking not !!!
I personally think Crofts is better than Hammond or Dicker ... but we are lacking a big midfield prescence....oh and a quick , tall , powerful center back ... GG
I totally agree with the above posts and can only think that we will never see Hoskins in the starting line up again with the arrival of Ulloa.
I think that Hoskins is better than Barnes by a street, but recall how good Barnes was when playing along side GM - have a look at some of the old Div 1 videos on the Seagull Player and see for yourselves. It may be that Barnes will profit from Ulloa's arrival - we can but hope so.
championshipgull
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1:24pm Sun 13 Jan 13
i luv my dog wrote:Attendances in modern stadiums are based on the number of tickets sold as opposed to the number of bums on seats which means the figures released are not a true reflection of the number of people in each ground but the easiest way for clubs to calculate attendances. The fact is, unless a few thousand season ticket holders decide not to turn up - which in itself is unlikely - attendance figures released will always be close to actual total. The club are putting in as many seats as they can to keep up with demand, reduce the season ticket waiting list and bring in more revenue. Should Arsenal win their cup tie against Swansea on Wednesday for the privilege of playing Brighton at the Amex, the attendance record is expected to be broken again.
crowd today looked about the same as Newcastle yet announced as over 24,000.
Do we count season holders as there even if they are not as some clubs do or do we just count bums on seats?
VegasSeagull
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1:43pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Do we agree that the training ground is where players gain their place in the starting line up and the match the place where they might lose it? If we do could it be that day in day out on the training ground Gus is seeing something that we are not privy to?
I think it fair to say that Hoskins and Barnes bring different things to the team and Ulloa will bring what, as yet, we have not had.
If Ulloa is the missing link and if that shows up on the training field, Hoskins will have his chance to show what he can do as it relates to Ulloa. Barnes and CMS the same.
Two or three weeks down the road from now might well see Ulloa and Hoskins starting or any combination of our strike force, Hoskins just like the others, will have 5 days every week to stand out prior to team selection and just one day each week to deliver when it counts.
I don't think Gus has written off Hoskins no more than he has settled on Barnes, the arrival of Ulloa, we hope, will be the game changer for all the strikers and Hoskins could turn out to be the biggest winner of them all.
VegasSeagull
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1:57pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Freeloaders wrote:Hi Freeloader.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote: fratsomrover = Barnes hater... he was superb for us today. Which game were you watching?Sad thing is some fans now care more about how a player looks then what he brings to the team.The same people that didn't like the Gully girls.Anyway Bridcutt outstanding yet again.I just hope the club is looking at between 6 or 8 million for him.But really hope he stays as i love the guy."Not because he thinks himself a boyband member like some."But because he gives 100% almost every game.
I read a report today that says, Man United might be forced to buy Zaha just to ensure that Arsenal do not get him, IMHO that probably ensures a 12 million price tag.
You say that you hope that if Bridcutt goes then 6 to 8 million should be the price, I am left wondering just how much would a prem club would pay if two, or more, are in for him.
Palace have said, 'you can buy Zaha but he stays with us until the end of the season, maybe a similar deal would suit us for Bridcutt.
Your thoughts, and anyone else.
..
Hovite
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2:06pm Sun 13 Jan 13
He is being taught the way Gus himself was taught. In many ways Gus probably sees a bit of himself in him.
At 23, he is very young, is being equiped for the future into being an all round player.
Gus has two roles, taking us to the Prem and coaching the players to take us there. There are some things you can only learn from by playing in competitive matches. Every game is practice and rehearsal for the future.
jcd1972; good point about Barnes being a very disciplined player.
And he did score.....
Hovite
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2:09pm Sun 13 Jan 13
tinker111
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2:18pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Ohnotagain ! wrote:Bridcutt outstanding YES Macca a smoke screen from Albion hamsring HA HA
pauldanno wrote:None,
I heard two different rumours at the Amex this afternooon, Macca at Leeds and at Norwich, do either have substance?
He has a slight hamstring injury,
Apparently !!!
Bridcutt though, OUTSTANDING..
tinker111
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2:24pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Howie2 wrote:COS GUS is boss and we are not BUT WE HAVE SEEN MORE FOTTIE THAN HIM And know the game Gus gets it wrong to many times ??
Don't understand why Barnes was put back into midfield and Buckley went to CF. It was working well with Barnes up front. Why change it ? The ref was one of the worst ever. he and his linesmen got so many decisions wrong it was laughable. In a match he would have been substituted at half time !
Hovite
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3:02pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Why waste your time on such a pathetic comment, what is your motivation, why dedicate your thought process with the anti Gus mantra?
I know the internet is powerful but you're not going to be able to start your revolution on this two bob website.
For all you idiots, wums and trolls, you need to create your own website, maybe, www.wehategus.com and take it to market and promote your own forum. You could make it a new religion.
You could also picket the Amex stadium on match day with your sandwich boards, handing out flyers.
How about launching your very own takeover of the club via social enterprise.
Just be proactive and invest in what you believe in.
Good luck in your recruitment process, but you are wasting your time on here.
golddene
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3:27pm Sun 13 Jan 13
tinker111 wrote:you know who you are.
Howie2 wrote:COS GUS is boss and we are not BUT WE HAVE SEEN MORE FOTTIE THAN HIM And know the game Gus gets it wrong to many times ??
Don't understand why Barnes was put back into midfield and Buckley went to CF. It was working well with Barnes up front. Why change it ? The ref was one of the worst ever. he and his linesmen got so many decisions wrong it was laughable. In a match he would have been substituted at half time !
I am the little troll;
A wind up merchant if you will,
I pray upon your passions, for my cheapest of thrills.
I trade upon half-truths and your insecurities,
I have many guises and you know it’s just a bit of a tease;
You may think I’m stupid but I may have several degrees…
But you will never know, as I hide behind these keys.
I may be sad or lonely,
I may be strong and wise;
The beauty of my darkness…
The replies, the replies.
So humour me mere mortals,
You are all so kind.
And spot me if you can,
I am a legend in my own mind
Neville
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3:32pm Sun 13 Jan 13
The match attendance figures are actual,the tickets are all scanned as you enter your stand area are collated automatically and this is the actual figure used.The same for the away supporters.Season ticket holders wh do not attend are not counted.This is fact as I do work at theStadium,trust this clarifies.
Bucket feet Duffy
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4:09pm Sun 13 Jan 13
fratsomrover wrote:Bridcutt definitely MOM.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Silly comment Old Scrote. I hate nobody. Like you I have an opinion and I dont consider that a player of Barnes's calibre will (a) get us promotion, or (b) ever play in The Premiership. He is the least technically gifted of all our players and is probably the slowest over 20-30m. As an example, the incident you refer to where he "set up what should have been a third goal" should have been a goal for him. The pass release him for a clear run at goal but he didn't have the pace to stay in front of the defender and was forced to turn away and pass to Buckley. If the initial pass had been to Buckley, Lua Lua or CMS, they would have scored and not been forced to turn by the defender. Barnes had a reasonable first half, won a couple of headers held up the ball a couple of times, but was no where near as effective as say" Sammon was for Derby. I think Hoskins is sharper and more skillful than Barnes and I was disappointed he didn't get the nod following his display last week. Derby are a poor, young inexperienced side and we should have murdered them after the start we had. But in the end it was a struggle and it shouldn't have been. If Barnes was Gus's MoM then I would love to hear why. I have a sneaking feeling he may be just saying that to justify his inclusion. Liam Bridcutt was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch yesterday. He is simply immense for BHA and I would stake my life on him playing in the Premiership next season. I just hope it is with us. Does anyone else at the game yesterday feel that Bridcutt was not the MoM ?
Bucket feet Duffy wrote:He scored one goal, set up what should have been our third, linked well with everyone. Different view, different opinion, but I thought he was excellent. (I've just noticed he was Gus's MoM too, so at least I'm not alone!)
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Barnes was better today, he was not superd had he been so we would have been out of site by the time their goal went in and had that been so the stuffing would have been well and truly knocked out of Derby.
fratsomrover = Barnes hater... he was superb for us today. Which game were you watching?
Barns is a good hard working pro who would be great for any league 1 team he is IMO and apparently others too neither technically adequate, and lacks pace to be a top championship player, more importantly he lacks pace to be able to be effective as a loan striker I our system of play.
That said I applaud his gutsy perfomances week In week out.
Also agree with your points re Barns although for his standard he had a good game yesterday
saraman
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4:17pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Neville wrote:So Neville, if they counted the season ticket holders that don't turn up, each match could be considered to be a near full house. That being the case seat sales have been maximised as you can't sell a seat twice.
attn JCD The match attendance figures are actual,the tickets are all scanned as you enter your stand area are collated automatically and this is the actual figure used.The same for the away supporters.Season ticket holders wh do not attend are not counted.This is fact as I do work at theStadium,trust this clarifies.
Hovite
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4:37pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Bucket feet Duffy wrote:Does anyone think that Gus may see something in Barnes that others completely miss.
fratsomrover wrote:Bridcutt definitely MOM.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Silly comment Old Scrote. I hate nobody. Like you I have an opinion and I dont consider that a player of Barnes's calibre will (a) get us promotion, or (b) ever play in The Premiership. He is the least technically gifted of all our players and is probably the slowest over 20-30m. As an example, the incident you refer to where he "set up what should have been a third goal" should have been a goal for him. The pass release him for a clear run at goal but he didn't have the pace to stay in front of the defender and was forced to turn away and pass to Buckley. If the initial pass had been to Buckley, Lua Lua or CMS, they would have scored and not been forced to turn by the defender. Barnes had a reasonable first half, won a couple of headers held up the ball a couple of times, but was no where near as effective as say" Sammon was for Derby. I think Hoskins is sharper and more skillful than Barnes and I was disappointed he didn't get the nod following his display last week. Derby are a poor, young inexperienced side and we should have murdered them after the start we had. But in the end it was a struggle and it shouldn't have been. If Barnes was Gus's MoM then I would love to hear why. I have a sneaking feeling he may be just saying that to justify his inclusion. Liam Bridcutt was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch yesterday. He is simply immense for BHA and I would stake my life on him playing in the Premiership next season. I just hope it is with us. Does anyone else at the game yesterday feel that Bridcutt was not the MoM ?
Bucket feet Duffy wrote:He scored one goal, set up what should have been our third, linked well with everyone. Different view, different opinion, but I thought he was excellent. (I've just noticed he was Gus's MoM too, so at least I'm not alone!)
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Barnes was better today, he was not superd had he been so we would have been out of site by the time their goal went in and had that been so the stuffing would have been well and truly knocked out of Derby.
fratsomrover = Barnes hater... he was superb for us today. Which game were you watching?
Barns is a good hard working pro who would be great for any league 1 team he is IMO and apparently others too neither technically adequate, and lacks pace to be a top championship player, more importantly he lacks pace to be able to be effective as a loan striker I our system of play.
That said I applaud his gutsy perfomances week In week out.
Also agree with your points re Barns although for his standard he had a good game yesterday
I really don't think that Gus would be giving him all of this match time if he didn't consider him potential for the Prem and the clubs future.
If you read my post at 2:06pm, it explains the role of Barnes and his selection within the team.
Neville
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4:48pm Sun 13 Jan 13
So Neville, if they counted the season ticket holders that don't turn up, each match could be considered to be a near full house. That being the case seat sales have been maximised as you can't sell a seat twice.”
Yes that would be the case not full capacity but the money already paid so maximum revenue from seat sales.
VegasSeagull
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5:07pm Sun 13 Jan 13
For well over a year he tells us that we need a certain type of striker to do a specific job. We recently hear about Ulloa and that we were trying to get him in the last window, something we never had any idea about.
David steps into the right back position and shines, who among us fans knew that he could fill that role, but Gus knew.
It seems to me that the plan for Barnes is that he is being developed into the, Mr. Dependable role, and by that I mean, he will be able to adapt to the squad's needs rather than stand out in one position, stand out in the way Bridcutt does in his role.
If Poyet can turn Barnes into a quality utility player, a utility player than can score goals when given the chance, his value ot the club could be very high but he might never have a high price tag on the open market.
saraman
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5:31pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Neville wrote:Cheers Nev, clear as crystal. Incidentally, do you know my mate Trevor Hills who has been involved on the admin side of The Albion as far back as the 60's?
attn Saraman So Neville, if they counted the season ticket holders that don't turn up, each match could be considered to be a near full house. That being the case seat sales have been maximised as you can't sell a seat twice.” Yes that would be the case not full capacity but the money already paid so maximum revenue from seat sales.
Neville
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5:50pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Name does ring a bell,does he do the tour side of things at the moment o security?
saraman
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6:12pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Neville wrote:Yes Nev, he showed me round when I bought my first season ticket. We both worked for BT in the early 60's. I understand that he is a member of the 901 club.
attn Saraman Name does ring a bell,does he do the tour side of things at the moment o security?
jcd1972
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8:51pm Sun 13 Jan 13
VegasSeagull wrote:yes good points. A Holloway type manager would probably pick Hoskins or Dobbie ahead of Barnes but Gus probably thinks he's got enough flair as it is with the Spanish players and wants a functional, disciplined player in there. Gus is almost envisaging an italian style of football but then the other players in italian football are used to giving more attacking support to the striker. I think we'll continue to play the 1 upfront away from home with Ulloa and CMS playing together in certain home games (if CMS doesn't request a transfer). If we're going to play 1 upfront then the midfielders and any wingers have to have attacking intent and Orlandi in particular is really starting to develop this aspect of his play.
Hovite I doubt that Poyet does anyhting related to the squad without having a plan, he's that kind of guy.
For well over a year he tells us that we need a certain type of striker to do a specific job. We recently hear about Ulloa and that we were trying to get him in the last window, something we never had any idea about.
David steps into the right back position and shines, who among us fans knew that he could fill that role, but Gus knew.
It seems to me that the plan for Barnes is that he is being developed into the, Mr. Dependable role, and by that I mean, he will be able to adapt to the squad's needs rather than stand out in one position, stand out in the way Bridcutt does in his role.
If Poyet can turn Barnes into a quality utility player, a utility player than can score goals when given the chance, his value ot the club could be very high but he might never have a high price tag on the open market.
VegasSeagull
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9:14pm Sun 13 Jan 13
Barnes could be developed into an attacking midfield player. He has the guts for the tackle and the nous of a striker, he might work well with Ulloa.
Hoskins appears to be showing some silky skills, he might end up pairing with Ulloa and or CMS. It's amazing to think what the arrival of just one player can mean to our options and to those around him.
golddene says...
6:36pm Sat 12 Jan 13