David grabs last-gasp equaliser

David Lopez celebrates scoring to break Blackburn hearts with his last gasp penalty (photo Simon Dack)

David Lopez is bundled over to win the penalty

First published in Sport
Last updated
by

David Lopez stretched Albion’s unbeaten run to five games with a penalty in the sixth minute of stoppage time to secure a 1-1 draw at Blackburn.

The hosts looked to be heading to victory in a poor game courtesy of a spot-kick from Scotland striker Jordan Rhodes a minute before half-time.

But seconds before the end David was fouled by David Goodwillie and the Spaniard dispatched the penalty for his fourth goal of the season.

Seagulls boss Gus Poyet handed a first league start of the season to Vicente in place of Craig Mackail-Smith but there was no Leonardo Ulloa who is still awaiting international clearance.

Tomasz Kuszczak, whose fumble cost Albion two points at Birmingham on Saturday, twice came to Albion’s rescue in the first half.

He made a fine save low down to push away Jason Lowe’s shot after the Blackburn midfielder burst into the penalty area, then he did well to keep out Morten Gamst Pedersen’s left-foot strike.

However, Kuszczak could do nothing to stop Rhodes’ penalty in the 44th minute after Adam El-Abd was penalised for a foul on Pedersen.

Poyet made a double change on 55 minutes, throwing on Will Buckley and Mackail-Smith but Albion still struggled to carve out chances.

It took them until the 76th minute to force home keeper Jake Kean into any sort of save, a comfortable take from third substitute Will Hoskins’ shot.

Instead Blackburn looked the more likely to increase their lead with Kuszczak making further saves from Colin Kazim-Richards and Rhodes.

However, a lifeline came thanks to Goodwillie’s ungainly challenge and David kept his nerve to grab a last-gasp equaliser.

Comments (31)

Please log in to enable comment sorting

10:46pm Tue 22 Jan 13

Alfie T says...

Lucky point, needed four from the last two games, but two away draws is not the end of the world. Hope to see the new boy Saturday, really looking forward to a game of passion and quality.
Lucky point, needed four from the last two games, but two away draws is not the end of the world. Hope to see the new boy Saturday, really looking forward to a game of passion and quality. Alfie T
  • Score: 0

10:51pm Tue 22 Jan 13

tonytowner1 says...

One eye on the Arsenal match then I guess based on the performance - 2 shots on target till the 96th minute as the "every other match" an odd team choice continues - why the tentative, cautious team choices so often?

Based on the radio commentary we sounded poor overall - not dominating possession, poor passing, few glimpses of skill and little pace against a team that has all in all been pretty poor most of the season

Thank goodness for David this evening - he's suddenly on 4 goals then!!

Bring on Ulloa!!

Really hoping Gus doesn't go for a tentative, cautious, let's hope we can defend and sneak one, approach against Arsenal - a match where pretty much any result will feel a win one way or another really as long as guts and thunder is thrown at it and them

UTA!
One eye on the Arsenal match then I guess based on the performance - 2 shots on target till the 96th minute as the "every other match" an odd team choice continues - why the tentative, cautious team choices so often? Based on the radio commentary we sounded poor overall - not dominating possession, poor passing, few glimpses of skill and little pace against a team that has all in all been pretty poor most of the season Thank goodness for David this evening - he's suddenly on 4 goals then!! Bring on Ulloa!! Really hoping Gus doesn't go for a tentative, cautious, let's hope we can defend and sneak one, approach against Arsenal - a match where pretty much any result will feel a win one way or another really as long as guts and thunder is thrown at it and them UTA! tonytowner1
  • Score: 0

10:54pm Tue 22 Jan 13

bruce beckett says...

Careful, Tony, you'll be accused of being negative! As a former winger yourself, you probably share my puzzlement that Gus no longer seems prepared to start the game with a wide player and waits until we're a goal down to change things. Played into Blackburn's hands tonight.
Careful, Tony, you'll be accused of being negative! As a former winger yourself, you probably share my puzzlement that Gus no longer seems prepared to start the game with a wide player and waits until we're a goal down to change things. Played into Blackburn's hands tonight. bruce beckett
  • Score: 0

10:59pm Tue 22 Jan 13

fratsomrover says...

Too true a lucky point Alfie. But to get something out of the game when your behind after 95 minutes should be one hell of a boost for morale on Saturday. Let's hope we can do a Bradford !!
Adam El A finally gives away the penalty he's been threatening to give away all season. I wonder if his opponent patted him on the head. Perhaps he'll learn to keep his hands to himself from now on and behave like a grown up. Virgil Van Dyke would be a big asset so I hope he comes. Roll on Saturday and a big day out at The Amex.
Too true a lucky point Alfie. But to get something out of the game when your behind after 95 minutes should be one hell of a boost for morale on Saturday. Let's hope we can do a Bradford !! Adam El A finally gives away the penalty he's been threatening to give away all season. I wonder if his opponent patted him on the head. Perhaps he'll learn to keep his hands to himself from now on and behave like a grown up. Virgil Van Dyke would be a big asset so I hope he comes. Roll on Saturday and a big day out at The Amex. fratsomrover
  • Score: 0

11:02pm Tue 22 Jan 13

The Phantom says...

Disappointed with starting eleven as didn't appear to be any pace in the side which I thought would have been the way forward against Blackburn. Blackburn still have plenty of good players and bearing in mind they have another new manager, a decent result in spite of the apparently poor performance. Well taken penalty at the end - idiotic challenge by Blackburn player that led to it.
Disappointed with starting eleven as didn't appear to be any pace in the side which I thought would have been the way forward against Blackburn. Blackburn still have plenty of good players and bearing in mind they have another new manager, a decent result in spite of the apparently poor performance. Well taken penalty at the end - idiotic challenge by Blackburn player that led to it. The Phantom
  • Score: 0

11:13pm Tue 22 Jan 13

albionfan33 says...

well what can you say? no point trying to disect that rubbish. Football its a funny old game!!
well what can you say? no point trying to disect that rubbish. Football its a funny old game!! albionfan33
  • Score: 0

11:19pm Tue 22 Jan 13

PressBoxTeaBoy says...

Very odd starting team choice, but at the weekend when we desereved to win and didnt, perhaps some consolation tonight for a point we probably didnt deserve but got. That's football.
We're still in mix so not overly disappointed BUT.......as many of us have been saying for a while: El Abd is a liability and becoming more so each game.
For a center half he's' too short, has no aerial dominance, too slow, and not good at hiding his physical harrassment of his oponents. Every game he's a hares breath from a sending off and/or a penalty give away.
As much as I love Adams passion he's simply a League 1 player and can't contend with the big physical strikers especially those with pace. Made worse because Greer cant defend the aerial threat either.
Hope Gus gets Virgil Van Dijk in a hurry and develops the new Latvian lad Maksimenco. We need em, and Gus Knows it ! I think Dunk would be playing if not for the attendance at the Old Bailey.
Very odd starting team choice, but at the weekend when we desereved to win and didnt, perhaps some consolation tonight for a point we probably didnt deserve but got. That's football. We're still in mix so not overly disappointed BUT.......as many of us have been saying for a while: El Abd is a liability and becoming more so each game. For a center half he's' too short, has no aerial dominance, too slow, and not good at hiding his physical harrassment of his oponents. Every game he's a hares breath from a sending off and/or a penalty give away. As much as I love Adams passion he's simply a League 1 player and can't contend with the big physical strikers especially those with pace. Made worse because Greer cant defend the aerial threat either. Hope Gus gets Virgil Van Dijk in a hurry and develops the new Latvian lad Maksimenco. We need em, and Gus Knows it ! I think Dunk would be playing if not for the attendance at the Old Bailey. PressBoxTeaBoy
  • Score: 0

11:20pm Tue 22 Jan 13

CumbrianSeagull says...

Just got back from the match. Good first half display and we should not of been going in to the break behind. El-Abd needs reminding that it is not rugby!! The lino spotted his antics and it was a needless pen to give away. Great to see Vicente back in action. His touch on the ball was superb.
Second half we were all over the place. The subs had little impact and we were very fortunate to escape with a draw. I watched Ulloa warm up before the match. Quick feet and while our other strikers were taking shooting practise and doing a Kevin Bremner (putting the ball between row m and row z in the terraces, Ulloa's shots were nestling in the top corner!!!
Could he be the target man we so desperately need?? From what I saw then, he just might be!!
Just got back from the match. Good first half display and we should not of been going in to the break behind. El-Abd needs reminding that it is not rugby!! The lino spotted his antics and it was a needless pen to give away. Great to see Vicente back in action. His touch on the ball was superb. Second half we were all over the place. The subs had little impact and we were very fortunate to escape with a draw. I watched Ulloa warm up before the match. Quick feet and while our other strikers were taking shooting practise and doing a Kevin Bremner (putting the ball between row m and row z in the terraces, Ulloa's shots were nestling in the top corner!!! Could he be the target man we so desperately need?? From what I saw then, he just might be!! CumbrianSeagull
  • Score: 0

11:23pm Tue 22 Jan 13

VegasSeagull says...

We all read on here from, 'some,' posters how we dropped two points against Birmingham.
Today we got a point, in similar circumstances, injury time, that we probably did not deserve. I guess things balance out over a season.

TK made an error in the last game but from what I have read, today he kept us in the game. Checks and balances guys.
We all read on here from, 'some,' posters how we dropped two points against Birmingham. Today we got a point, in similar circumstances, injury time, that we probably did not deserve. I guess things balance out over a season. TK made an error in the last game but from what I have read, today he kept us in the game. Checks and balances guys. VegasSeagull
  • Score: 0

11:27pm Tue 22 Jan 13

Vince says...

The Phantom wrote:
Disappointed with starting eleven as didn't appear to be any pace in the side which I thought would have been the way forward against Blackburn. Blackburn still have plenty of good players and bearing in mind they have another new manager, a decent result in spite of the apparently poor performance. Well taken penalty at the end - idiotic challenge by Blackburn player that led to it.
Barnes is a very useful player, and against Derby in the first half was excellent as a CENTRE FORWARD. Why was he dropped deeper in the second half, when he was playing so well up front? Unfortunately Barnes lacks pace pace so to play him with with Vicente was a bit odd. I think that Vicente needs to play with players who are technically gifted and have pace - like Buckley, Lua Lua, Hoskins and CMS. Oddly none of these four were played alongside Vicente in the first half. Surely it is important to get players linking up - like Watford's forwards showed - they are the form team and their forwards (after a slow start) are now combining in a telepathic and high-tempo way. If Gus doesn't get our flair players playing TOGETHER then they will never get the opportunity to play with that same understanding. Not being negative - just an attempt at a constructive view!!!

Delighted for Kuszak that he made some great saves tonight, and saved us an (undeserved?) point.
[quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: Disappointed with starting eleven as didn't appear to be any pace in the side which I thought would have been the way forward against Blackburn. Blackburn still have plenty of good players and bearing in mind they have another new manager, a decent result in spite of the apparently poor performance. Well taken penalty at the end - idiotic challenge by Blackburn player that led to it.[/p][/quote]Barnes is a very useful player, and against Derby in the first half was excellent as a CENTRE FORWARD. Why was he dropped deeper in the second half, when he was playing so well up front? Unfortunately Barnes lacks pace pace so to play him with with Vicente was a bit odd. I think that Vicente needs to play with players who are technically gifted and have pace - like Buckley, Lua Lua, Hoskins and CMS. Oddly none of these four were played alongside Vicente in the first half. Surely it is important to get players linking up - like Watford's forwards showed - they are the form team and their forwards (after a slow start) are now combining in a telepathic and high-tempo way. If Gus doesn't get our flair players playing TOGETHER then they will never get the opportunity to play with that same understanding. Not being negative - just an attempt at a constructive view!!! Delighted for Kuszak that he made some great saves tonight, and saved us an (undeserved?) point. Vince
  • Score: 0

11:37pm Tue 22 Jan 13

Vince says...

CumbrianSeagull wrote:
Just got back from the match. Good first half display and we should not of been going in to the break behind. El-Abd needs reminding that it is not rugby!! The lino spotted his antics and it was a needless pen to give away. Great to see Vicente back in action. His touch on the ball was superb. Second half we were all over the place. The subs had little impact and we were very fortunate to escape with a draw. I watched Ulloa warm up before the match. Quick feet and while our other strikers were taking shooting practise and doing a Kevin Bremner (putting the ball between row m and row z in the terraces, Ulloa's shots were nestling in the top corner!!! Could he be the target man we so desperately need?? From what I saw then, he just might be!!
Pleased to hear that we had a good first half. However, we didn't appear to create much - despite Vicente's great play. I realise that Barnes, Orlandi and Lopez were alongside him - but surely we should have had a player with pace up front as well, like Buckley or Lua Lua or CMS? That might just have tipped the balance in our favour.
I realise that we need to have balance in the side, but sometimes when we are on top we just need to go for the jugular!
[quote][p][bold]CumbrianSeagull[/bold] wrote: Just got back from the match. Good first half display and we should not of been going in to the break behind. El-Abd needs reminding that it is not rugby!! The lino spotted his antics and it was a needless pen to give away. Great to see Vicente back in action. His touch on the ball was superb. Second half we were all over the place. The subs had little impact and we were very fortunate to escape with a draw. I watched Ulloa warm up before the match. Quick feet and while our other strikers were taking shooting practise and doing a Kevin Bremner (putting the ball between row m and row z in the terraces, Ulloa's shots were nestling in the top corner!!! Could he be the target man we so desperately need?? From what I saw then, he just might be!![/p][/quote]Pleased to hear that we had a good first half. However, we didn't appear to create much - despite Vicente's great play. I realise that Barnes, Orlandi and Lopez were alongside him - but surely we should have had a player with pace up front as well, like Buckley or Lua Lua or CMS? That might just have tipped the balance in our favour. I realise that we need to have balance in the side, but sometimes when we are on top we just need to go for the jugular! Vince
  • Score: 0

12:14am Wed 23 Jan 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

If only Gus spent as much time playing Football Manager and FIFA as many on here do he would no doubt be winning every game! ;-)
If only Gus spent as much time playing Football Manager and FIFA as many on here do he would no doubt be winning every game! ;-) Old Scrote of the Amex
  • Score: 0

12:18am Wed 23 Jan 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

We may have been a bit lucky this evening, but we are still owed some this season. It just about evens itself out given enough time, but perhaps not by the end of this season.
We may have been a bit lucky this evening, but we are still owed some this season. It just about evens itself out given enough time, but perhaps not by the end of this season. Old Scrote of the Amex
  • Score: 0

12:43am Wed 23 Jan 13

Vince says...

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
If only Gus spent as much time playing Football Manager and FIFA as many on here do he would no doubt be winning every game! ;-)
I'm totally behind our manager who has achieved amazing things at our club. He is still learning the job however, and is not immune from making mistakes. Even the great Brian Clough and Peter Taylor made mistakes, and they quickly rectified them. The manager is, in effect the servant of the club, as is the chairman and board of directors. Even the players are servants of the club. The real owners are the supporters - because without them there would be no club, and the players would get no wages and thus be out of a job.

The supporters have a voice - not all the voices always say the same thing -but usually on important issues the supporters are united in a common cause - like the great effort to get rid of Archer and Bellotti.
The supporters being the lifeblood of the club have a right to voice opinions. I sometimes criticise thingd the manager does it is not negativity - it is meant to be constructive. If enough people say the same thing - then sometimes the guys who have been appointed to make decisions might be influenced. If they don't listen - for e.g. because they passionately believe they are right - they stand or fall by their own sword. Supporters air their views because they CARE about the club. I don't subscribe to VegasSeagull's view that we should believe in the manager's selections whatever they are. That is behaving like sheep.
I DO believe we should always SUPPORT the team, but if the manager is not getting the results (and I don't include Gus in this supposition - as he has done a fantastic job) then supporters have a right to protest.
In any case half the fun of being a football fan is voicing an opinion. We all like to pretend we are managers, and to state who we would have picked etc. That is not being disloyal or negative. It is caring about OUR CLUB!
[quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: If only Gus spent as much time playing Football Manager and FIFA as many on here do he would no doubt be winning every game! ;-)[/p][/quote]I'm totally behind our manager who has achieved amazing things at our club. He is still learning the job however, and is not immune from making mistakes. Even the great Brian Clough and Peter Taylor made mistakes, and they quickly rectified them. The manager is, in effect the servant of the club, as is the chairman and board of directors. Even the players are servants of the club. The real owners are the supporters - because without them there would be no club, and the players would get no wages and thus be out of a job. The supporters have a voice - not all the voices always say the same thing -but usually on important issues the supporters are united in a common cause - like the great effort to get rid of Archer and Bellotti. The supporters being the lifeblood of the club have a right to voice opinions. I sometimes criticise thingd the manager does it is not negativity - it is meant to be constructive. If enough people say the same thing - then sometimes the guys who have been appointed to make decisions might be influenced. If they don't listen - for e.g. because they passionately believe they are right - they stand or fall by their own sword. Supporters air their views because they CARE about the club. I don't subscribe to VegasSeagull's view that we should believe in the manager's selections whatever they are. That is behaving like sheep. I DO believe we should always SUPPORT the team, but if the manager is not getting the results (and I don't include Gus in this supposition - as he has done a fantastic job) then supporters have a right to protest. In any case half the fun of being a football fan is voicing an opinion. We all like to pretend we are managers, and to state who we would have picked etc. That is not being disloyal or negative. It is caring about OUR CLUB! Vince
  • Score: 0

12:49am Wed 23 Jan 13

Alan G Skinner says...

Come the end of the season, that could be a massive point!
Come the end of the season, that could be a massive point! Alan G Skinner
  • Score: 0

12:56am Wed 23 Jan 13

ballantrrae says...

Just looked at the match stats on BBC Sport. Apparently we had 53 per cent possession.
4 good saves from Kuszczak which shows he has the right approach - so easy to be thrown by an error.
I assume Poyet will have noted that Hoskins was the first Albion player to have a shot on target. Seems we lacked pace (lots on the bench). Yet again we started with a 'cautious' line-up.
Changing subject I can't understand why the Mighty FA are taking so long over Ulloa's International Clearance. I am keeping my fingers crossed that in the next 8 days or so Poyet signs another Defender (van Dijk ?) and a midfielder with drive and physical presence. It's no good playing 'pretty football' (per Argus live thread tonight) if there is no positive end result.
Just looked at the match stats on BBC Sport. Apparently we had 53 per cent possession. 4 good saves from Kuszczak which shows he has the right approach - so easy to be thrown by an error. I assume Poyet will have noted that Hoskins was the first Albion player to have a shot on target. Seems we lacked pace (lots on the bench). Yet again we started with a 'cautious' line-up. Changing subject I can't understand why the Mighty FA are taking so long over Ulloa's International Clearance. I am keeping my fingers crossed that in the next 8 days or so Poyet signs another Defender (van Dijk ?) and a midfielder with drive and physical presence. It's no good playing 'pretty football' (per Argus live thread tonight) if there is no positive end result. ballantrrae
  • Score: 0

1:32am Wed 23 Jan 13

championshipgull says...

Looking at the fixture list I am confident we can keep up the play-off challenge throughout the games in February and March. If I am right it will come down to the last 5 games and what kind of form we are displaying In April.
Still unbeaten in 2013, bring on the Gunners.
Looking at the fixture list I am confident we can keep up the play-off challenge throughout the games in February and March. If I am right it will come down to the last 5 games and what kind of form we are displaying In April. Still unbeaten in 2013, bring on the Gunners. championshipgull
  • Score: 0

1:47am Wed 23 Jan 13

championshipgull says...

Vince wrote:
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
If only Gus spent as much time playing Football Manager and FIFA as many on here do he would no doubt be winning every game! ;-)
I'm totally behind our manager who has achieved amazing things at our club. He is still learning the job however, and is not immune from making mistakes. Even the great Brian Clough and Peter Taylor made mistakes, and they quickly rectified them. The manager is, in effect the servant of the club, as is the chairman and board of directors. Even the players are servants of the club. The real owners are the supporters - because without them there would be no club, and the players would get no wages and thus be out of a job.

The supporters have a voice - not all the voices always say the same thing -but usually on important issues the supporters are united in a common cause - like the great effort to get rid of Archer and Bellotti.
The supporters being the lifeblood of the club have a right to voice opinions. I sometimes criticise thingd the manager does it is not negativity - it is meant to be constructive. If enough people say the same thing - then sometimes the guys who have been appointed to make decisions might be influenced. If they don't listen - for e.g. because they passionately believe they are right - they stand or fall by their own sword. Supporters air their views because they CARE about the club. I don't subscribe to VegasSeagull's view that we should believe in the manager's selections whatever they are. That is behaving like sheep.
I DO believe we should always SUPPORT the team, but if the manager is not getting the results (and I don't include Gus in this supposition - as he has done a fantastic job) then supporters have a right to protest.
In any case half the fun of being a football fan is voicing an opinion. We all like to pretend we are managers, and to state who we would have picked etc. That is not being disloyal or negative. It is caring about OUR CLUB!
IMHO You are spot on. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: If only Gus spent as much time playing Football Manager and FIFA as many on here do he would no doubt be winning every game! ;-)[/p][/quote]I'm totally behind our manager who has achieved amazing things at our club. He is still learning the job however, and is not immune from making mistakes. Even the great Brian Clough and Peter Taylor made mistakes, and they quickly rectified them. The manager is, in effect the servant of the club, as is the chairman and board of directors. Even the players are servants of the club. The real owners are the supporters - because without them there would be no club, and the players would get no wages and thus be out of a job. The supporters have a voice - not all the voices always say the same thing -but usually on important issues the supporters are united in a common cause - like the great effort to get rid of Archer and Bellotti. The supporters being the lifeblood of the club have a right to voice opinions. I sometimes criticise thingd the manager does it is not negativity - it is meant to be constructive. If enough people say the same thing - then sometimes the guys who have been appointed to make decisions might be influenced. If they don't listen - for e.g. because they passionately believe they are right - they stand or fall by their own sword. Supporters air their views because they CARE about the club. I don't subscribe to VegasSeagull's view that we should believe in the manager's selections whatever they are. That is behaving like sheep. I DO believe we should always SUPPORT the team, but if the manager is not getting the results (and I don't include Gus in this supposition - as he has done a fantastic job) then supporters have a right to protest. In any case half the fun of being a football fan is voicing an opinion. We all like to pretend we are managers, and to state who we would have picked etc. That is not being disloyal or negative. It is caring about OUR CLUB![/p][/quote]IMHO You are spot on. UTA championshipgull
  • Score: 0

1:54am Wed 23 Jan 13

Vince says...

If we can turn draws into wins - then I fancy us for a top 6 place. Middlesbrough, Palace and Hull are all catchable. Watford are due a bad run, but look good enough at the moment to finish in the top 3 - which must also include Cardiff and probably Leicester.
We have Won 10 Drawn 12 Lost 6 (with identical home and away records of W5-D6-L3) which is pretty good - and under the old points scoring system of 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw we'd probably be in the top 6. With Vicente, Ulloa and Dick in the side I'm confident we will make it - so how about a little bet on the Seagulls to finish 4th or higher?
If we can turn draws into wins - then I fancy us for a top 6 place. Middlesbrough, Palace and Hull are all catchable. Watford are due a bad run, but look good enough at the moment to finish in the top 3 - which must also include Cardiff and probably Leicester. We have Won 10 Drawn 12 Lost 6 (with identical home and away records of W5-D6-L3) which is pretty good - and under the old points scoring system of 2 points for a win and 1 for a draw we'd probably be in the top 6. With Vicente, Ulloa and Dick in the side I'm confident we will make it - so how about a little bet on the Seagulls to finish 4th or higher? Vince
  • Score: 0

2:14am Wed 23 Jan 13

JoeBlow says...

Alfie T wrote:
Lucky point, needed four from the last two games, but two away draws is not the end of the world. Hope to see the new boy Saturday, really looking forward to a game of passion and quality.
Is the new boy eligible, though? I thought you had to be signed when the draw was made to be eligible to play in the game.
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Lucky point, needed four from the last two games, but two away draws is not the end of the world. Hope to see the new boy Saturday, really looking forward to a game of passion and quality.[/p][/quote]Is the new boy eligible, though? I thought you had to be signed when the draw was made to be eligible to play in the game. JoeBlow
  • Score: 0

5:01am Wed 23 Jan 13

namgo49 says...

Useful to here from Cumbrian Seagull who saw things 1st hand. Sounds as though we should have made better of our 1st half display. I thought it was a strange selection but there we are.

Barnes's 5th booking so he is on a suspension and was that Bridcutt's 9th? If so he is not far away from a 3 match.

Gus is right better to lose one and win one than what we are doing at present. Still hopefully will make the play offs as the Palace will fade once Zaha is gone.
Useful to here from Cumbrian Seagull who saw things 1st hand. Sounds as though we should have made better of our 1st half display. I thought it was a strange selection but there we are. Barnes's 5th booking so he is on a suspension and was that Bridcutt's 9th? If so he is not far away from a 3 match. Gus is right better to lose one and win one than what we are doing at present. Still hopefully will make the play offs as the Palace will fade once Zaha is gone. namgo49
  • Score: 0

7:39am Wed 23 Jan 13

Seagull John says...

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:
Very odd starting team choice, but at the weekend when we desereved to win and didnt, perhaps some consolation tonight for a point we probably didnt deserve but got. That's football.
We're still in mix so not overly disappointed BUT.......as many of us have been saying for a while: El Abd is a liability and becoming more so each game.
For a center half he's' too short, has no aerial dominance, too slow, and not good at hiding his physical harrassment of his oponents. Every game he's a hares breath from a sending off and/or a penalty give away.
As much as I love Adams passion he's simply a League 1 player and can't contend with the big physical strikers especially those with pace. Made worse because Greer cant defend the aerial threat either.
Hope Gus gets Virgil Van Dijk in a hurry and develops the new Latvian lad Maksimenco. We need em, and Gus Knows it ! I think Dunk would be playing if not for the attendance at the Old Bailey.
If Adam is only a hare's breath from a sending off or giving away a penalty, then he's clearly doing a fine job in on of the meanest defenses in the Championship. Had neither or even a suspension til the 24th game shows he's getting it right. It's not about height. CMS and Greer are poor jumpers and headers of the ball. Adam and Bridders are shorter, but have the best spring at the club.Clearly Adam has been extremely good at hiding his physical harassment. Copes extremely well with big defenders, but I'll grant you has looked slowe in the last few games.
[quote][p][bold]PressBoxTeaBoy[/bold] wrote: Very odd starting team choice, but at the weekend when we desereved to win and didnt, perhaps some consolation tonight for a point we probably didnt deserve but got. That's football. We're still in mix so not overly disappointed BUT.......as many of us have been saying for a while: El Abd is a liability and becoming more so each game. For a center half he's' too short, has no aerial dominance, too slow, and not good at hiding his physical harrassment of his oponents. Every game he's a hares breath from a sending off and/or a penalty give away. As much as I love Adams passion he's simply a League 1 player and can't contend with the big physical strikers especially those with pace. Made worse because Greer cant defend the aerial threat either. Hope Gus gets Virgil Van Dijk in a hurry and develops the new Latvian lad Maksimenco. We need em, and Gus Knows it ! I think Dunk would be playing if not for the attendance at the Old Bailey.[/p][/quote]If Adam is only a hare's breath from a sending off or giving away a penalty, then he's clearly doing a fine job in on of the meanest defenses in the Championship. Had neither or even a suspension til the 24th game shows he's getting it right. It's not about height. CMS and Greer are poor jumpers and headers of the ball. Adam and Bridders are shorter, but have the best spring at the club.Clearly Adam has been extremely good at hiding his physical harassment. Copes extremely well with big defenders, but I'll grant you has looked slowe in the last few games. Seagull John
  • Score: 0

9:15am Wed 23 Jan 13

GosportGull says...

Warren Aspinall made an interesting comment last night during the commentary ref Barnes and Hoskins, stating that if Hoskins took his chance then Gus would consider his selection..Well sorry Warren , but i thought he did that against a certain Premier team called Newcastle !

Listening to the commentary last night we seemed clueless going forward even with the talented midfield that we had out..Midfield can only supply passes if the striker makes the runs and doesn't fall over every time he is challenged. Im sorry but i just don't think Barnes is worth his place when Hoskins and hopefully ULLOA will offer alot more.
I fail to see what Gus sees in Barnes , i know some people will not like my views , but i just don't see what he brings to the team.

Good to see Vicente back and David still playing well. As for Adam , i think he needs to grow up and concentrate on his own game instead of trying to wind up the opposing forwards ! I hope that we sign this Dutch lad , he sounds ideal... As for Dunk..not convinced but hopefully once this court case is over he can get back to concentrating on his football ! GG
Warren Aspinall made an interesting comment last night during the commentary ref Barnes and Hoskins, stating that if Hoskins took his chance then Gus would consider his selection..Well sorry Warren , but i thought he did that against a certain Premier team called Newcastle ! Listening to the commentary last night we seemed clueless going forward even with the talented midfield that we had out..Midfield can only supply passes if the striker makes the runs and doesn't fall over every time he is challenged. Im sorry but i just don't think Barnes is worth his place when Hoskins and hopefully ULLOA will offer alot more. I fail to see what Gus sees in Barnes , i know some people will not like my views , but i just don't see what he brings to the team. Good to see Vicente back and David still playing well. As for Adam , i think he needs to grow up and concentrate on his own game instead of trying to wind up the opposing forwards ! I hope that we sign this Dutch lad , he sounds ideal... As for Dunk..not convinced but hopefully once this court case is over he can get back to concentrating on his football ! GG GosportGull
  • Score: 0

9:20am Wed 23 Jan 13

Sussex Ian says...

I'm surprised that Adam El - Abd hasn't conceded more penalties this season - or been sent off. He's constantly pulling shirts, holding arms of oppostion players in our penalty area. He also seems to take great delight in annoying players by tapping them on the head or putting an elbow into their back. Sooner or later, a player is going to do the pole-axed routine and go to ground. A referee or lino will see El-Abd's arm pulling away, and a gentle tap will turn into a sending off. Play the game Adam and cut out the nonsense.
I'm surprised that Adam El - Abd hasn't conceded more penalties this season - or been sent off. He's constantly pulling shirts, holding arms of oppostion players in our penalty area. He also seems to take great delight in annoying players by tapping them on the head or putting an elbow into their back. Sooner or later, a player is going to do the pole-axed routine and go to ground. A referee or lino will see El-Abd's arm pulling away, and a gentle tap will turn into a sending off. Play the game Adam and cut out the nonsense. Sussex Ian
  • Score: 0

9:47am Wed 23 Jan 13

PittaPatta says...

I simply cannot believe what I witnessed last night. My beloved Albion, with enough talent and skill to cakewalk this league at a canter, making a very ham-fisted attempt at closing down a match and winning on the break.
Last night we were simply caught in the unenviable position of providing enough quality to take the three points necessary, while having one eye on a forthcoming glamour cup tie, and all that is entailed with that.
In short, the whole plot almost backfired miserably. This was especially so after enjoying the better share of a leaden footed first half; a half where the magic of Vicente, together with the rising reputation of Orlandi, promised so much, but delivered very little. This was despite the fact that Blackburn appeared as concerned as us regarding Saturday's challenge, offering little impetus for a home side needing to be positive under their third manager of the campaign.
Having held my breath on numerous occasions where Adam El-Abd is concerned, it was hardly surprising to see his outrageous close marking reactions giving away a penalty that was hardly deserved on the night, but which could have made the difference. When will Gus impress on the player, that overt contact in the box, together with obvious and excessive match marking, will lead to a good deal more trouble in future, as officials clamp down on this kind of behaviour.
The resulting second period was once again so typical of the Albion. We can never seem to play both halves in the same vain, and this is so frustrating. Last night's slow early progress had been rendered completely useless following the penalty, and our shell shocked team were never quite sure how to play after that. Substituting arguably the best players did not help the situation, although it was hardly likely that Vicente would last the whole game anyway. Once again, our final eleven should have had enough to take the game to the home side, but were let down by a formation that limited any offensive movements, when, with only a little coaching quality, things could have been so different.
On the night, the only satisfaction was to reverse a trend that we were beginning to fall foul of ourselves, namely the last gasp goal. Thank goodness for David Lopez!
I simply cannot believe what I witnessed last night. My beloved Albion, with enough talent and skill to cakewalk this league at a canter, making a very ham-fisted attempt at closing down a match and winning on the break. Last night we were simply caught in the unenviable position of providing enough quality to take the three points necessary, while having one eye on a forthcoming glamour cup tie, and all that is entailed with that. In short, the whole plot almost backfired miserably. This was especially so after enjoying the better share of a leaden footed first half; a half where the magic of Vicente, together with the rising reputation of Orlandi, promised so much, but delivered very little. This was despite the fact that Blackburn appeared as concerned as us regarding Saturday's challenge, offering little impetus for a home side needing to be positive under their third manager of the campaign. Having held my breath on numerous occasions where Adam El-Abd is concerned, it was hardly surprising to see his outrageous close marking reactions giving away a penalty that was hardly deserved on the night, but which could have made the difference. When will Gus impress on the player, that overt contact in the box, together with obvious and excessive match marking, will lead to a good deal more trouble in future, as officials clamp down on this kind of behaviour. The resulting second period was once again so typical of the Albion. We can never seem to play both halves in the same vain, and this is so frustrating. Last night's slow early progress had been rendered completely useless following the penalty, and our shell shocked team were never quite sure how to play after that. Substituting arguably the best players did not help the situation, although it was hardly likely that Vicente would last the whole game anyway. Once again, our final eleven should have had enough to take the game to the home side, but were let down by a formation that limited any offensive movements, when, with only a little coaching quality, things could have been so different. On the night, the only satisfaction was to reverse a trend that we were beginning to fall foul of ourselves, namely the last gasp goal. Thank goodness for David Lopez! PittaPatta
  • Score: 0

10:33am Wed 23 Jan 13

Yorkieseagull says...

Glancing at the main picture here I thought for a moment our penalty hero had been transformed into "brave double amputee penalty hero". Fair play to the boys, it must have been freezing out there last night.
Glancing at the main picture here I thought for a moment our penalty hero had been transformed into "brave double amputee penalty hero". Fair play to the boys, it must have been freezing out there last night. Yorkieseagull
  • Score: 0

10:35am Wed 23 Jan 13

Yorkieseagull says...

Sussex Ian wrote:
I'm surprised that Adam El - Abd hasn't conceded more penalties this season - or been sent off. He's constantly pulling shirts, holding arms of oppostion players in our penalty area. He also seems to take great delight in annoying players by tapping them on the head or putting an elbow into their back. Sooner or later, a player is going to do the pole-axed routine and go to ground. A referee or lino will see El-Abd's arm pulling away, and a gentle tap will turn into a sending off. Play the game Adam and cut out the nonsense.
Precisely!
[quote][p][bold]Sussex Ian[/bold] wrote: I'm surprised that Adam El - Abd hasn't conceded more penalties this season - or been sent off. He's constantly pulling shirts, holding arms of oppostion players in our penalty area. He also seems to take great delight in annoying players by tapping them on the head or putting an elbow into their back. Sooner or later, a player is going to do the pole-axed routine and go to ground. A referee or lino will see El-Abd's arm pulling away, and a gentle tap will turn into a sending off. Play the game Adam and cut out the nonsense.[/p][/quote]Precisely! Yorkieseagull
  • Score: 0

12:29pm Wed 23 Jan 13

wiltshire seagull says...

Vince wrote:
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
If only Gus spent as much time playing Football Manager and FIFA as many on here do he would no doubt be winning every game! ;-)
I'm totally behind our manager who has achieved amazing things at our club. He is still learning the job however, and is not immune from making mistakes. Even the great Brian Clough and Peter Taylor made mistakes, and they quickly rectified them. The manager is, in effect the servant of the club, as is the chairman and board of directors. Even the players are servants of the club. The real owners are the supporters - because without them there would be no club, and the players would get no wages and thus be out of a job.

The supporters have a voice - not all the voices always say the same thing -but usually on important issues the supporters are united in a common cause - like the great effort to get rid of Archer and Bellotti.
The supporters being the lifeblood of the club have a right to voice opinions. I sometimes criticise thingd the manager does it is not negativity - it is meant to be constructive. If enough people say the same thing - then sometimes the guys who have been appointed to make decisions might be influenced. If they don't listen - for e.g. because they passionately believe they are right - they stand or fall by their own sword. Supporters air their views because they CARE about the club. I don't subscribe to VegasSeagull's view that we should believe in the manager's selections whatever they are. That is behaving like sheep.
I DO believe we should always SUPPORT the team, but if the manager is not getting the results (and I don't include Gus in this supposition - as he has done a fantastic job) then supporters have a right to protest.
In any case half the fun of being a football fan is voicing an opinion. We all like to pretend we are managers, and to state who we would have picked etc. That is not being disloyal or negative. It is caring about OUR CLUB!
Vince, the above is a top post, IMHO. Constructive rather than destructive criticism is always the best way to go, ergo caring. I think however that you are being a tad harsh on Vegas? At least he seems to know what he's talking about unlike some (probably including me, lol), that don't! A lucky but vital point. Listened to the interview with TK just now, what a sensible guy he seems to be too. As stated above, AEA needs to stop the rugby playing and the head-patting, how irritating must that be, have a word Gustavo, now.
Got two N.Stand tickets for Sat from the BHASC Draw, well happy...UTA...
[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: If only Gus spent as much time playing Football Manager and FIFA as many on here do he would no doubt be winning every game! ;-)[/p][/quote]I'm totally behind our manager who has achieved amazing things at our club. He is still learning the job however, and is not immune from making mistakes. Even the great Brian Clough and Peter Taylor made mistakes, and they quickly rectified them. The manager is, in effect the servant of the club, as is the chairman and board of directors. Even the players are servants of the club. The real owners are the supporters - because without them there would be no club, and the players would get no wages and thus be out of a job. The supporters have a voice - not all the voices always say the same thing -but usually on important issues the supporters are united in a common cause - like the great effort to get rid of Archer and Bellotti. The supporters being the lifeblood of the club have a right to voice opinions. I sometimes criticise thingd the manager does it is not negativity - it is meant to be constructive. If enough people say the same thing - then sometimes the guys who have been appointed to make decisions might be influenced. If they don't listen - for e.g. because they passionately believe they are right - they stand or fall by their own sword. Supporters air their views because they CARE about the club. I don't subscribe to VegasSeagull's view that we should believe in the manager's selections whatever they are. That is behaving like sheep. I DO believe we should always SUPPORT the team, but if the manager is not getting the results (and I don't include Gus in this supposition - as he has done a fantastic job) then supporters have a right to protest. In any case half the fun of being a football fan is voicing an opinion. We all like to pretend we are managers, and to state who we would have picked etc. That is not being disloyal or negative. It is caring about OUR CLUB![/p][/quote]Vince, the above is a top post, IMHO. Constructive rather than destructive criticism is always the best way to go, ergo caring. I think however that you are being a tad harsh on Vegas? At least he seems to know what he's talking about unlike some (probably including me, lol), that don't! A lucky but vital point. Listened to the interview with TK just now, what a sensible guy he seems to be too. As stated above, AEA needs to stop the rugby playing and the head-patting, how irritating must that be, have a word Gustavo, now. Got two N.Stand tickets for Sat from the BHASC Draw, well happy...UTA... wiltshire seagull
  • Score: 0

2:37pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Hovite says...

Vince, to support the manager isn't being a sheep.

Sometimes people focus too much on what they think Gus should do or who he should play, rather than stepping back and thinking why these decisions may be made.

On paper we had to give Vicente a game sooner or later, so Gus did what he thought was best. This may not have been good for a freezing battling game in Blackburn, but this may pay off in the FA Cup.

It's called lateral thinking, and to understand this isn't being a sheep.
Vince, to support the manager isn't being a sheep. Sometimes people focus too much on what they think Gus should do or who he should play, rather than stepping back and thinking why these decisions may be made. On paper we had to give Vicente a game sooner or later, so Gus did what he thought was best. This may not have been good for a freezing battling game in Blackburn, but this may pay off in the FA Cup. It's called lateral thinking, and to understand this isn't being a sheep. Hovite
  • Score: 0

7:01pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Seagull John says...

Sussex Ian wrote:
I'm surprised that Adam El - Abd hasn't conceded more penalties this season - or been sent off. He's constantly pulling shirts, holding arms of oppostion players in our penalty area. He also seems to take great delight in annoying players by tapping them on the head or putting an elbow into their back. Sooner or later, a player is going to do the pole-axed routine and go to ground. A referee or lino will see El-Abd's arm pulling away, and a gentle tap will turn into a sending off. Play the game Adam and cut out the nonsense.
You may be surprised, but unless he breaks a law of the game as currently interpreted, he won't concede penalties or get sent off as he hadn't till last night. As he is part of one of the meanest defences in the Championship, maybe it's you who are wrong. Enjoy his style of defending - I do.
[quote][p][bold]Sussex Ian[/bold] wrote: I'm surprised that Adam El - Abd hasn't conceded more penalties this season - or been sent off. He's constantly pulling shirts, holding arms of oppostion players in our penalty area. He also seems to take great delight in annoying players by tapping them on the head or putting an elbow into their back. Sooner or later, a player is going to do the pole-axed routine and go to ground. A referee or lino will see El-Abd's arm pulling away, and a gentle tap will turn into a sending off. Play the game Adam and cut out the nonsense.[/p][/quote]You may be surprised, but unless he breaks a law of the game as currently interpreted, he won't concede penalties or get sent off as he hadn't till last night. As he is part of one of the meanest defences in the Championship, maybe it's you who are wrong. Enjoy his style of defending - I do. Seagull John
  • Score: 0

7:08pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Seagull John says...

GosportGull wrote:
Warren Aspinall made an interesting comment last night during the commentary ref Barnes and Hoskins, stating that if Hoskins took his chance then Gus would consider his selection..Well sorry Warren , but i thought he did that against a certain Premier team called Newcastle !

Listening to the commentary last night we seemed clueless going forward even with the talented midfield that we had out..Midfield can only supply passes if the striker makes the runs and doesn't fall over every time he is challenged. Im sorry but i just don't think Barnes is worth his place when Hoskins and hopefully ULLOA will offer alot more.
I fail to see what Gus sees in Barnes , i know some people will not like my views , but i just don't see what he brings to the team.

Good to see Vicente back and David still playing well. As for Adam , i think he needs to grow up and concentrate on his own game instead of trying to wind up the opposing forwards ! I hope that we sign this Dutch lad , he sounds ideal... As for Dunk..not convinced but hopefully once this court case is over he can get back to concentrating on his football ! GG
' I fail to see what Gus sees in Barnes , i know some people will not like my views , but i just don't see what he brings to the team.'

So he scores against Deby, then again against Birmingham when he was widely regarded as Man of the Match and back to his best, yet you still don't understand?

Says more about you I'm afraid than Barnes.
[quote][p][bold]GosportGull[/bold] wrote: Warren Aspinall made an interesting comment last night during the commentary ref Barnes and Hoskins, stating that if Hoskins took his chance then Gus would consider his selection..Well sorry Warren , but i thought he did that against a certain Premier team called Newcastle ! Listening to the commentary last night we seemed clueless going forward even with the talented midfield that we had out..Midfield can only supply passes if the striker makes the runs and doesn't fall over every time he is challenged. Im sorry but i just don't think Barnes is worth his place when Hoskins and hopefully ULLOA will offer alot more. I fail to see what Gus sees in Barnes , i know some people will not like my views , but i just don't see what he brings to the team. Good to see Vicente back and David still playing well. As for Adam , i think he needs to grow up and concentrate on his own game instead of trying to wind up the opposing forwards ! I hope that we sign this Dutch lad , he sounds ideal... As for Dunk..not convinced but hopefully once this court case is over he can get back to concentrating on his football ! GG[/p][/quote]' I fail to see what Gus sees in Barnes , i know some people will not like my views , but i just don't see what he brings to the team.' So he scores against Deby, then again against Birmingham when he was widely regarded as Man of the Match and back to his best, yet you still don't understand? Says more about you I'm afraid than Barnes. Seagull John
  • Score: 0

Comments are closed on this article.

Send us your news, pictures and videos

Most read stories

Local Info

Enter your postcode, town or place name

About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree