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Van Dijk remains Poyet's top target

The Argus: Albion were discouraged from a move for Curtis Davies by Birmingham's £4million asking price Albion were discouraged from a move for Curtis Davies by Birmingham's £4million asking price

Albion will make a renewed attempt to splash out on a younger centre-half in the summer, with Virgil van Dijk still high on their wish list.

Boss Gus Poyet remains keen to sign a central defender for next season on a long-term contract after bringing in Matthew Upson on loan at the end of the January transfer window.

Upson, borrowed from Stoke, is 33 and injured captain Gordon Greer will be the same age next season.

Albion ended up switching attention to a list of experienced, shorter term targets last week after failing with two substantial bids to capture van Dijk, the second believed to be around £2 million.

Groningen were desperate to keep hold of van Dijk to assist their fight against relegation from the Dutch First Division but are likely to let him leave in the summer.

Although the Seagulls will face competition from Premier League clubs for the highly-rated 21-year-old, the prospect of launching his career in England with a progressive Championship club, where he will have more chance of playing in the first team, appeals to van Dijk.

Poyet made a trip to Holland to watch van Dijk for himself before Albion made their second offer.

The manager’s determination to add to his squad a centre-half with his best years ahead of him was also emphasised by Albion’s interest in Birmingham’s Curtis Davies.

Poyet is an admirer of the 27-year-old but Birmingham fended off Norwich at the end of the January window with a £4 million asking price for high-earner Davies and the Seagulls see van Dijk as a more viable option.

Upson makes his home debut against third-placed Hull City at The Amex on Saturday (5.20pm).

Albion’s game at Barnsley, postponed on February 16 due to the Yorkshiremen’s involvement in the FA Cup, has been rearranged for Tuesday March 12 (7.45pm).

Last night’s Sussex Senior Cup tie against Lancing at Culver Road was postponed because of an unfit pitch.

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5:19pm Tue 5 Feb 13

ballantrrae says...

I hope we are successful in signing van Dijk assuming that as this report indicates we try and sign him. He sounds just the sort of young player we want to join the club.
I hope we are successful in signing van Dijk assuming that as this report indicates we try and sign him. He sounds just the sort of young player we want to join the club. ballantrrae
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6:29pm Tue 5 Feb 13

falmer seagull says...

Keep in touch with the player and 'woo' him!
Keep in touch with the player and 'woo' him! falmer seagull
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6:41pm Tue 5 Feb 13

humndinga says...

Just back from Groningen their fans really rate him and expect him to go for no less than £5million
Just back from Groningen their fans really rate him and expect him to go for no less than £5million humndinga
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6:52pm Tue 5 Feb 13

VegasSeagull says...

humndinga wrote:
Just back from Groningen their fans really rate him and expect him to go for no less than £5million
I suppose the valuation the fans put on the lad is similar to the way Brighton fans value Buckley or Bridcutt. We might say 5 million for either of them but the market would probably value them ar nearer 3 million.

If Groningen get relugated, which could very well happen, then the price should be lower, maybe 2.5 million.
[quote][p][bold]humndinga[/bold] wrote: Just back from Groningen their fans really rate him and expect him to go for no less than £5million[/p][/quote]I suppose the valuation the fans put on the lad is similar to the way Brighton fans value Buckley or Bridcutt. We might say 5 million for either of them but the market would probably value them ar nearer 3 million. If Groningen get relugated, which could very well happen, then the price should be lower, maybe 2.5 million. VegasSeagull
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7:06pm Tue 5 Feb 13

VegasSeagull says...

My guess is that Brighton are going to have a clear out come the end of the season.

I would not be surprised to see several of the first team and a whole bunch from the development squad go even if we don't get promoted.

If this season turns out to be a failed promotion run it would seem logical that the squad gets revamped.
If Dijk comes he might replace Greer and of ocurse we now have Ince as his understudy.

The arrival of Ulloa could mean that CMS moves on in the summer with maybe a new recruit coming in and Hoskins staying.

I would guess that Bridge and Upson will not be here next season but I owuld expect Bruno to stay, and w ehave the Latvian lad as his understudy. Not so sure about Hammond, could be bought if the price was right.

Vicente will almost certainly go and I owuld expect the club to try and sign a play maker in his place.

David and Barnes look safe for next season, don't think either will go, nor Buckley.
Bridcutt could become a target of a few clubs but I would hope we keep him along with Dicker.

Orlandi and Calderon seem set for one more season but that might be dependent on whether or not we get promoted, perhaps Orlandi is more secure than Calde.

Dunk and Crofts might struggle to make the first team next year no matter what happens, Dunk could stay as back up, I think El Abd is safe.

All the above is of course, IMHO, and I could be wrong about most of it, but that would be normal for me.




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My guess is that Brighton are going to have a clear out come the end of the season. I would not be surprised to see several of the first team and a whole bunch from the development squad go even if we don't get promoted. If this season turns out to be a failed promotion run it would seem logical that the squad gets revamped. If Dijk comes he might replace Greer and of ocurse we now have Ince as his understudy. The arrival of Ulloa could mean that CMS moves on in the summer with maybe a new recruit coming in and Hoskins staying. I would guess that Bridge and Upson will not be here next season but I owuld expect Bruno to stay, and w ehave the Latvian lad as his understudy. Not so sure about Hammond, could be bought if the price was right. Vicente will almost certainly go and I owuld expect the club to try and sign a play maker in his place. David and Barnes look safe for next season, don't think either will go, nor Buckley. Bridcutt could become a target of a few clubs but I would hope we keep him along with Dicker. Orlandi and Calderon seem set for one more season but that might be dependent on whether or not we get promoted, perhaps Orlandi is more secure than Calde. Dunk and Crofts might struggle to make the first team next year no matter what happens, Dunk could stay as back up, I think El Abd is safe. All the above is of course, IMHO, and I could be wrong about most of it, but that would be normal for me. . VegasSeagull
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7:36pm Tue 5 Feb 13

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
My guess is that Brighton are going to have a clear out come the end of the season.

I would not be surprised to see several of the first team and a whole bunch from the development squad go even if we don't get promoted.

If this season turns out to be a failed promotion run it would seem logical that the squad gets revamped.
If Dijk comes he might replace Greer and of ocurse we now have Ince as his understudy.

The arrival of Ulloa could mean that CMS moves on in the summer with maybe a new recruit coming in and Hoskins staying.

I would guess that Bridge and Upson will not be here next season but I owuld expect Bruno to stay, and w ehave the Latvian lad as his understudy. Not so sure about Hammond, could be bought if the price was right.

Vicente will almost certainly go and I owuld expect the club to try and sign a play maker in his place.

David and Barnes look safe for next season, don't think either will go, nor Buckley.
Bridcutt could become a target of a few clubs but I would hope we keep him along with Dicker.

Orlandi and Calderon seem set for one more season but that might be dependent on whether or not we get promoted, perhaps Orlandi is more secure than Calde.

Dunk and Crofts might struggle to make the first team next year no matter what happens, Dunk could stay as back up, I think El Abd is safe.

All the above is of course, IMHO, and I could be wrong about most of it, but that would be normal for me.




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Your assuming players out of contract don't get tapped up, however I have feeling the club must go for promotion next season if we don't get there this year.. Summer of hard choices for Gus, however he is not standing still.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: My guess is that Brighton are going to have a clear out come the end of the season. I would not be surprised to see several of the first team and a whole bunch from the development squad go even if we don't get promoted. If this season turns out to be a failed promotion run it would seem logical that the squad gets revamped. If Dijk comes he might replace Greer and of ocurse we now have Ince as his understudy. The arrival of Ulloa could mean that CMS moves on in the summer with maybe a new recruit coming in and Hoskins staying. I would guess that Bridge and Upson will not be here next season but I owuld expect Bruno to stay, and w ehave the Latvian lad as his understudy. Not so sure about Hammond, could be bought if the price was right. Vicente will almost certainly go and I owuld expect the club to try and sign a play maker in his place. David and Barnes look safe for next season, don't think either will go, nor Buckley. Bridcutt could become a target of a few clubs but I would hope we keep him along with Dicker. Orlandi and Calderon seem set for one more season but that might be dependent on whether or not we get promoted, perhaps Orlandi is more secure than Calde. Dunk and Crofts might struggle to make the first team next year no matter what happens, Dunk could stay as back up, I think El Abd is safe. All the above is of course, IMHO, and I could be wrong about most of it, but that would be normal for me. .[/p][/quote]Your assuming players out of contract don't get tapped up, however I have feeling the club must go for promotion next season if we don't get there this year.. Summer of hard choices for Gus, however he is not standing still. mark by the sea
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8:20pm Tue 5 Feb 13

ballantrrae says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
My guess is that Brighton are going to have a clear out come the end of the season.

I would not be surprised to see several of the first team and a whole bunch from the development squad go even if we don't get promoted.

If this season turns out to be a failed promotion run it would seem logical that the squad gets revamped.
If Dijk comes he might replace Greer and of ocurse we now have Ince as his understudy.

The arrival of Ulloa could mean that CMS moves on in the summer with maybe a new recruit coming in and Hoskins staying.

I would guess that Bridge and Upson will not be here next season but I owuld expect Bruno to stay, and w ehave the Latvian lad as his understudy. Not so sure about Hammond, could be bought if the price was right.

Vicente will almost certainly go and I owuld expect the club to try and sign a play maker in his place.

David and Barnes look safe for next season, don't think either will go, nor Buckley.
Bridcutt could become a target of a few clubs but I would hope we keep him along with Dicker.

Orlandi and Calderon seem set for one more season but that might be dependent on whether or not we get promoted, perhaps Orlandi is more secure than Calde.

Dunk and Crofts might struggle to make the first team next year no matter what happens, Dunk could stay as back up, I think El Abd is safe.

All the above is of course, IMHO, and I could be wrong about most of it, but that would be normal for me.




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Any thoughts VegasSeagull on a Goalkeeper ?
Kuszczak will be here since he signed a 2 year contract but I am not sure about Brezovan and Ankergren.
Orlandi will remain, 4 goals and 5 assists speaks volumes. David is only on a 1 year contract which makes his situation uncertain although I hope he stays.
I hope Hoskins gets some game time since I feel there is more to come from him although we've hardly had a chance to see it. Whether he will be offered a new deal might depend on how much game time he actually gets.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: My guess is that Brighton are going to have a clear out come the end of the season. I would not be surprised to see several of the first team and a whole bunch from the development squad go even if we don't get promoted. If this season turns out to be a failed promotion run it would seem logical that the squad gets revamped. If Dijk comes he might replace Greer and of ocurse we now have Ince as his understudy. The arrival of Ulloa could mean that CMS moves on in the summer with maybe a new recruit coming in and Hoskins staying. I would guess that Bridge and Upson will not be here next season but I owuld expect Bruno to stay, and w ehave the Latvian lad as his understudy. Not so sure about Hammond, could be bought if the price was right. Vicente will almost certainly go and I owuld expect the club to try and sign a play maker in his place. David and Barnes look safe for next season, don't think either will go, nor Buckley. Bridcutt could become a target of a few clubs but I would hope we keep him along with Dicker. Orlandi and Calderon seem set for one more season but that might be dependent on whether or not we get promoted, perhaps Orlandi is more secure than Calde. Dunk and Crofts might struggle to make the first team next year no matter what happens, Dunk could stay as back up, I think El Abd is safe. All the above is of course, IMHO, and I could be wrong about most of it, but that would be normal for me. .[/p][/quote]Any thoughts VegasSeagull on a Goalkeeper ? Kuszczak will be here since he signed a 2 year contract but I am not sure about Brezovan and Ankergren. Orlandi will remain, 4 goals and 5 assists speaks volumes. David is only on a 1 year contract which makes his situation uncertain although I hope he stays. I hope Hoskins gets some game time since I feel there is more to come from him although we've hardly had a chance to see it. Whether he will be offered a new deal might depend on how much game time he actually gets. ballantrrae
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8:23pm Tue 5 Feb 13

VegasSeagull says...

Mark you are right, some of those for whom their contract is coming to a close might well get tapped up by others. .

Maybe you would agree that if any approaches are made for the, 'majority,' of those at the end of their contract, the approach would probably come from our division or lower. Whilst Brighton are not awash with money I would like to think that we could offer a better contract to those we want to keep, better than other clubs in the lower divisions and possibly better than most in the championship division.

I am just guessing but if one or two of our players are desired by prem teams they would have come calling by now, but perhaps they have and we just don't know about it. The long running talk of Norwich wanting CMS seems to have died off.
Mark you are right, some of those for whom their contract is coming to a close might well get tapped up by others. . Maybe you would agree that if any approaches are made for the, 'majority,' of those at the end of their contract, the approach would probably come from our division or lower. Whilst Brighton are not awash with money I would like to think that we could offer a better contract to those we want to keep, better than other clubs in the lower divisions and possibly better than most in the championship division. I am just guessing but if one or two of our players are desired by prem teams they would have come calling by now, but perhaps they have and we just don't know about it. The long running talk of Norwich wanting CMS seems to have died off. VegasSeagull
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8:40pm Tue 5 Feb 13

South West Seagull says...

Unless we're going to see a switch to 4-4-2 and our expensive attacking flair let loose on the pitch, we can forget the play-offs this season. Team selection and tactics have been baffling at times with results following the same inconsistent pattern. Playing not to lose and never playing to win.

Building for the future is fantastic, but speaking purely in results on the pitch, if I was TB I'd have expected a significant improvement this season. He's backed Poyet all the way but must have the odd moment when he wonders what actually goes on inside Poyet's head. I can almost feel that he won't play CMS and Ulloa together from the start on Sat just because he knows that what we are all screaming for. There are masses of positives about the last few years - of course - but we've never had this kind of financial backing or the quality of players at our disposal. If we find ourselves here this time next year I can see Poyet moving on / being moved on.

Let's hope we really go for it from the whistle on Sat and the remaining games this season.
Unless we're going to see a switch to 4-4-2 and our expensive attacking flair let loose on the pitch, we can forget the play-offs this season. Team selection and tactics have been baffling at times with results following the same inconsistent pattern. Playing not to lose and never playing to win. Building for the future is fantastic, but speaking purely in results on the pitch, if I was TB I'd have expected a significant improvement this season. He's backed Poyet all the way but must have the odd moment when he wonders what actually goes on inside Poyet's head. I can almost feel that he won't play CMS and Ulloa together from the start on Sat just because he knows that what we are all screaming for. There are masses of positives about the last few years - of course - but we've never had this kind of financial backing or the quality of players at our disposal. If we find ourselves here this time next year I can see Poyet moving on / being moved on. Let's hope we really go for it from the whistle on Sat and the remaining games this season. South West Seagull
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9:16pm Tue 5 Feb 13

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark you are right, some of those for whom their contract is coming to a close might well get tapped up by others. .

Maybe you would agree that if any approaches are made for the, 'majority,' of those at the end of their contract, the approach would probably come from our division or lower. Whilst Brighton are not awash with money I would like to think that we could offer a better contract to those we want to keep, better than other clubs in the lower divisions and possibly better than most in the championship division.

I am just guessing but if one or two of our players are desired by prem teams they would have come calling by now, but perhaps they have and we just don't know about it. The long running talk of Norwich wanting CMS seems to have died off.
Norwich just signed a player on loan? I assume loans can still come in? Yes think Gus is thinking if we want to keep say elabd or Barnes we will offer decent money, or by end of march, some will have proved themselves worthy of a contract, we really need the premiership next season, the fair play rule comes in to play, how teams will work in that rule remains to be seen .
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Mark you are right, some of those for whom their contract is coming to a close might well get tapped up by others. . Maybe you would agree that if any approaches are made for the, 'majority,' of those at the end of their contract, the approach would probably come from our division or lower. Whilst Brighton are not awash with money I would like to think that we could offer a better contract to those we want to keep, better than other clubs in the lower divisions and possibly better than most in the championship division. I am just guessing but if one or two of our players are desired by prem teams they would have come calling by now, but perhaps they have and we just don't know about it. The long running talk of Norwich wanting CMS seems to have died off.[/p][/quote]Norwich just signed a player on loan? I assume loans can still come in? Yes think Gus is thinking if we want to keep say elabd or Barnes we will offer decent money, or by end of march, some will have proved themselves worthy of a contract, we really need the premiership next season, the fair play rule comes in to play, how teams will work in that rule remains to be seen . mark by the sea
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9:54pm Tue 5 Feb 13

Bucket feet Duffy says...

Why don't we just do a deal like MU did with Zaha ha ha, if Gus wants him that much ?
Why don't we just do a deal like MU did with Zaha ha ha, if Gus wants him that much ? Bucket feet Duffy
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11:40pm Tue 5 Feb 13

WestStander17 says...

South West Seagull wrote:
Unless we're going to see a switch to 4-4-2 and our expensive attacking flair let loose on the pitch, we can forget the play-offs this season. Team selection and tactics have been baffling at times with results following the same inconsistent pattern. Playing not to lose and never playing to win. Building for the future is fantastic, but speaking purely in results on the pitch, if I was TB I'd have expected a significant improvement this season. He's backed Poyet all the way but must have the odd moment when he wonders what actually goes on inside Poyet's head. I can almost feel that he won't play CMS and Ulloa together from the start on Sat just because he knows that what we are all screaming for. There are masses of positives about the last few years - of course - but we've never had this kind of financial backing or the quality of players at our disposal. If we find ourselves here this time next year I can see Poyet moving on / being moved on. Let's hope we really go for it from the whistle on Sat and the remaining games this season.
Gus has always said he always sets the team out to win games and not play for draws. Just because a team doesn't play with 2 strikers doesn't mean they aren't trying to win the game. Lots of teams set up with one striker these days but it doesn't mean they are playing for a draw. We've seen Spain line up with no strikers but no-one would say they were being negative. It just shows the English game is becoming more like the continent, mainly due to the foreign coaches in our game.

We are blessed with one of these foreign coaches and he has made our play technically far better to watch. A slow build up means we keep possession so we don't have to defend for as long and can maintain far more control over the game. To do this the extra man in midfield offers more options and is far more beneficial than a second striker who would be waiting around for the play to get up to him.

Playing on the counter-attack is a completely different argument. That would suit having 2 strikers as you get the ball to them quickly. But, Gus may stretch to playing Ulloa & CMS in the same team at times but I would think there is very little chance of him changing our style of play and, IMHO, quite rightly so. Going back to having games going end to end like a game of Basketball would surely be a backwards step.
[quote][p][bold]South West Seagull[/bold] wrote: Unless we're going to see a switch to 4-4-2 and our expensive attacking flair let loose on the pitch, we can forget the play-offs this season. Team selection and tactics have been baffling at times with results following the same inconsistent pattern. Playing not to lose and never playing to win. Building for the future is fantastic, but speaking purely in results on the pitch, if I was TB I'd have expected a significant improvement this season. He's backed Poyet all the way but must have the odd moment when he wonders what actually goes on inside Poyet's head. I can almost feel that he won't play CMS and Ulloa together from the start on Sat just because he knows that what we are all screaming for. There are masses of positives about the last few years - of course - but we've never had this kind of financial backing or the quality of players at our disposal. If we find ourselves here this time next year I can see Poyet moving on / being moved on. Let's hope we really go for it from the whistle on Sat and the remaining games this season.[/p][/quote]Gus has always said he always sets the team out to win games and not play for draws. Just because a team doesn't play with 2 strikers doesn't mean they aren't trying to win the game. Lots of teams set up with one striker these days but it doesn't mean they are playing for a draw. We've seen Spain line up with no strikers but no-one would say they were being negative. It just shows the English game is becoming more like the continent, mainly due to the foreign coaches in our game. We are blessed with one of these foreign coaches and he has made our play technically far better to watch. A slow build up means we keep possession so we don't have to defend for as long and can maintain far more control over the game. To do this the extra man in midfield offers more options and is far more beneficial than a second striker who would be waiting around for the play to get up to him. Playing on the counter-attack is a completely different argument. That would suit having 2 strikers as you get the ball to them quickly. But, Gus may stretch to playing Ulloa & CMS in the same team at times but I would think there is very little chance of him changing our style of play and, IMHO, quite rightly so. Going back to having games going end to end like a game of Basketball would surely be a backwards step. WestStander17
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11:48pm Tue 5 Feb 13

WestStander17 says...

Sorry, that was slightly off topic!

Getting Van Dijk in the summer would be great. We will need this type of player wherever we end up.

Come the end of the season lots of things could change. If we go up, we'll need to strengthen. If we don't, we may lose players and need to re-fill holes. Bridcutt, I think, being the most likely to be taken. In still amazed we received no offers for him in January.
Sorry, that was slightly off topic! Getting Van Dijk in the summer would be great. We will need this type of player wherever we end up. Come the end of the season lots of things could change. If we go up, we'll need to strengthen. If we don't, we may lose players and need to re-fill holes. Bridcutt, I think, being the most likely to be taken. In still amazed we received no offers for him in January. WestStander17
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5:29pm Wed 6 Feb 13

Falmer Wizard says...

It would be better for Van Dyke to sign for us for a couple of seasons before moving on to a Premiership side,however with top clubs in the hunt for him in the summer no doubt he will go where the money is.
It would be better for Van Dyke to sign for us for a couple of seasons before moving on to a Premiership side,however with top clubs in the hunt for him in the summer no doubt he will go where the money is. Falmer Wizard
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