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Vicente puts focus on his football not future (From The Argus)
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Vicente puts focus on his football not future
11:00am Monday 11th February 2013 in Sport By Brian Owen
Vicente was the match-winner
Vicente has put thoughts of his future on hold while he tries to help Albion into the play-offs.
The Spanish star came off the bench to fire the winner against Hull City.
It was his first home outing since the opening week of the season.
Vicente is out of contract in the summer but says he has found life in England easier this winter than last, when he was also troubled by injury.
He said: “I’m not thinking about the future yet.
“All I’m think about is taking it game by game.
“I want to finish the season well here for Brighton becausepeople here have always treated me really well.
“Then we will see what happens.”
Vicente thanked fans for the rapturous ovation with which they greeted his 59th minute introduction off the bench.
He added: “What was also important for me was the ovation from the crowd.
"They have really helped me from the start.
"I’m happy but all that is missing is playing a bit more."
Comments(68)
Yorkieseagull
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11:11am Mon 11 Feb 13
Old Scrote of the Amex
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11:23am Mon 11 Feb 13
Yorkieseagull wrote:I guess that depends on whether your job involves creativity. No 'performer' is going to be at their best when they are feeling disliked, whatever their particular profession. It all comes down to being appreciated.
Does anybody else on here only do the job they are paid to do, and are contracted to do, when they can feel the love and adulation from others who are paying their wages? We have a star in our team, no doubt, but are we expected to care whether or not he feels appreciated? I check my bank account every month to see whether I am appreciated for what I do for a living.
Yorkieseagull
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11:48am Mon 11 Feb 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Fair enough, but when you look at what Vicente has done in the game, who he has played with and for, you'd have thought he would be a little more pragmatic about his professional life where appreciation is measured in somebody offering him a contract he is prepared to sign.
Yorkieseagull wrote:I guess that depends on whether your job involves creativity. No 'performer' is going to be at their best when they are feeling disliked, whatever their particular profession. It all comes down to being appreciated.
Does anybody else on here only do the job they are paid to do, and are contracted to do, when they can feel the love and adulation from others who are paying their wages? We have a star in our team, no doubt, but are we expected to care whether or not he feels appreciated? I check my bank account every month to see whether I am appreciated for what I do for a living.
Dr Baldhead
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12:09pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit
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12:14pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Dr Baldhead wrote:Agreed. Saturday was worth it for THAT pass alone.
Vicente won't be here next season. For my own part I'm simply looking forward to enjoying watching him as much as possible for the remainder of this season. Even though he wasn't at his majestic best during his cameo on Saturday, he entralls me by the way the ball is glued to his feet when he sets off on those mazy runs. I've never seen a more technically gifted player turn out for the Albion.
Willie, Willie Irvine
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12:18pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Dr Baldhead wrote:Agreed. My guess is that Vicente will be on the first plane out-a-here once his contractual obligations expire. I'm sure he'll be much fitter and more available for the remaining games in his own interests, but hopefully providing match-winning services at the same tim. Enjoy it while it lasts...
Vicente won't be here next season. For my own part I'm simply looking forward to enjoying watching him as much as possible for the remainder of this season. Even though he wasn't at his majestic best during his cameo on Saturday, he entralls me by the way the ball is glued to his feet when he sets off on those mazy runs. I've never seen a more technically gifted player turn out for the Albion.
Yorkieseagull
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12:29pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit wrote:It was poetry, and Bridge was off on his way as soon as Vicente shaped to play it. More of that please.
Dr Baldhead wrote:Agreed. Saturday was worth it for THAT pass alone.
Vicente won't be here next season. For my own part I'm simply looking forward to enjoying watching him as much as possible for the remainder of this season. Even though he wasn't at his majestic best during his cameo on Saturday, he entralls me by the way the ball is glued to his feet when he sets off on those mazy runs. I've never seen a more technically gifted player turn out for the Albion.
Far gull
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12:30pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit wrote:Totally agree with bth comments here. As for next season who knows? But let me put forward a senario ,a long way off i concur.
Dr Baldhead wrote:Agreed. Saturday was worth it for THAT pass alone.
Vicente won't be here next season. For my own part I'm simply looking forward to enjoying watching him as much as possible for the remainder of this season. Even though he wasn't at his majestic best during his cameo on Saturday, he entralls me by the way the ball is glued to his feet when he sets off on those mazy runs. I've never seen a more technically gifted player turn out for the Albion.
1- Vicente's fitness holds up ,nee improves
2- He helps us get promoted
3- His wife is happy(all our spanish players looked and said they are enjoying life here on pre match sky build-up)
4- Weather really perks up and we have hot spring and summer :-)
5, By being promoted our man has one last crack at 32,
of the big time in prem( or spanish second tier with Elshe or whoever)
6 - Money offer for one season with us sets his family up for 5 yrs in spain!
Will he still be with us next season now ? I happen to think if 5 of above happen he will still be here,bet you !!!
davidinsouthampton
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12:46pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Simon Mew
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12:49pm Mon 11 Feb 13
WestStander17
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1:02pm Mon 11 Feb 13
I think if we found ourselves heading up to the Prem and his family are happy to stay for another year, he would possibly stay. He came because he wanted to play in England so surely he'd want to give the Prem a go.
For now I think we should just hope he can stay fit to play the majority of the games left. 1 because it gives us a much bigger chance of getting promoted this season and 2 because its just a privilege to see such a gifted player playing for our club. Even if we do go up and get better players in, we'll do very well to get anyone as talented as Vicente.
reagull
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1:18pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Yorkieseagull wrote:returning from the amex on saturday I thought I'd watch the highlights on the football league show...... I'm trying to work something out.
Does anybody else on here only do the job they are paid to do, and are contracted to do, when they can feel the love and adulation from others who are paying their wages? We have a star in our team, no doubt, but are we expected to care whether or not he feels appreciated? I check my bank account every month to see whether I am appreciated for what I do for a living.
I get paid to fit signs for a living and wondered if it would be ok to put them up 10ft higher than the customer wanted and still get paid 10k a week , I'm going to call my new company "orlandi signs"
pappaK
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2:06pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Simon Mew wrote:Like you Simon, I await with bated breath for the special one to awake, its 6am where he is ,perhaps his alarm did not go off, OR !!!!!
I really don't know what to think, I'll just wait for Vegas to tell me.
Perhaps he`s looking in the mirror wishing he could date himself.
As per usual ,hope you all have a good one.
russellsnr2
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2:09pm Mon 11 Feb 13
He looked as though it was all to much.
Sorry, but just have that feeling that although he is getting his wish to play football he will be away to warmer climes at the end of the season.
Claude Back
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2:19pm Mon 11 Feb 13
pappaK wrote:Love the sarcasm about King Vegas, or ... 'king Vegas as some might say. ;-)
Simon Mew wrote:Like you Simon, I await with bated breath for the special one to awake, its 6am where he is ,perhaps his alarm did not go off, OR !!!!!
I really don't know what to think, I'll just wait for Vegas to tell me.
Perhaps he`s looking in the mirror wishing he could date himself.
As per usual ,hope you all have a good one.
Lawro was God
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3:06pm Mon 11 Feb 13
VegasSeagull
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3:08pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Claude Back wrote:Small brains small comments. I am surprised at you Claude allowing yourself to be dragged down to such a low level, but I guess like mix with like and you seem to have chosen what level you wish to comment at. What is that they say Claude, 'sarcasm is the weakest form of wit,' maybe you have found your niche in life after all.
pappaK wrote:Love the sarcasm about King Vegas, or ... 'king Vegas as some might say. ;-)Simon Mew wrote: I really don't know what to think, I'll just wait for Vegas to tell me.Like you Simon, I await with bated breath for the special one to awake, its 6am where he is ,perhaps his alarm did not go off, OR !!!!! Perhaps he`s looking in the mirror wishing he could date himself. As per usual ,hope you all have a good one.
As for the other two, just children playing children's games.
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saraman
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3:10pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Far gull wrote:I'm with you on this one Far Gull. I have been extreemly sceptical about the man but have modified my views of late as per a previos thread. Vicente stated in The Argus that last winter was very hard for him, but found this one a lot easier. As you say Far Gull if we have a good spring and summer and find ouselves in rhe PL he may well sign for one more season especially as he also states that his family are very happy to live in Brighton,England. I would put the odds on him staying as 60-40 in our favour considering our Spanish speaking contingent. If the wife is happy Vicente will be happy.
Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit wrote:Totally agree with bth comments here. As for next season who knows? But let me put forward a senario ,a long way off i concur. 1- Vicente's fitness holds up ,nee improves 2- He helps us get promoted 3- His wife is happy(all our spanish players looked and said they are enjoying life here on pre match sky build-up) 4- Weather really perks up and we have hot spring and summer :-) 5, By being promoted our man has one last crack at 32, of the big time in prem( or spanish second tier with Elshe or whoever) 6 - Money offer for one season with us sets his family up for 5 yrs in spain! Will he still be with us next season now ? I happen to think if 5 of above happen he will still be here,bet you !!!Dr Baldhead wrote: Vicente won't be here next season. For my own part I'm simply looking forward to enjoying watching him as much as possible for the remainder of this season. Even though he wasn't at his majestic best during his cameo on Saturday, he entralls me by the way the ball is glued to his feet when he sets off on those mazy runs. I've never seen a more technically gifted player turn out for the Albion.Agreed. Saturday was worth it for THAT pass alone.
tinker111
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3:15pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Lawro was God wrote:Good shout like the line up now hope Gus see's it our way
He is currently our player and if we are serious about promotion has to start games with the rest of the midfield tailored to his game. We have enough quality in the squad to populate the bench with game changers if things are not going well. Play vicente with Bridcutt Dicker and Lopez from the start tomorrow with Cms and Leo up top. Now we will see what our management team are made of.
Yorkieseagull
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3:32pm Mon 11 Feb 13
reagull wrote:Ha ha. And if your boss doesn't give you a nice shoulder massage before you get in your van, tell him via Twitter that you're just not enjoying fitting signs anymore. Maybe at the next Falmer training session they should bring in a cow, give Orlandi a banjo and ask him to hit it on the backside just to disprove the rumours.
Yorkieseagull wrote:returning from the amex on saturday I thought I'd watch the highlights on the football league show...... I'm trying to work something out.
Does anybody else on here only do the job they are paid to do, and are contracted to do, when they can feel the love and adulation from others who are paying their wages? We have a star in our team, no doubt, but are we expected to care whether or not he feels appreciated? I check my bank account every month to see whether I am appreciated for what I do for a living.
I get paid to fit signs for a living and wondered if it would be ok to put them up 10ft higher than the customer wanted and still get paid 10k a week , I'm going to call my new company "orlandi signs"
Hovite
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4:08pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Get a grip and appreciate what we have, the club and the players need our full support so that valuable players stay.
If you project doom, gloom and conspiracies it can only do the club harm.
Take a look at yourselves in the mirror, ask if you really are a true fan of the club, think about it for a minute and report back to me.
Old Scrote of the Amex
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4:44pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Yorkieseagull wrote:Okay, Orlandi missed a chance against Hull, but is 4 in the previous 7 not good enough for a midfielder these days?
reagull wrote:Ha ha. And if your boss doesn't give you a nice shoulder massage before you get in your van, tell him via Twitter that you're just not enjoying fitting signs anymore. Maybe at the next Falmer training session they should bring in a cow, give Orlandi a banjo and ask him to hit it on the backside just to disprove the rumours.
Yorkieseagull wrote:returning from the amex on saturday I thought I'd watch the highlights on the football league show...... I'm trying to work something out.
Does anybody else on here only do the job they are paid to do, and are contracted to do, when they can feel the love and adulation from others who are paying their wages? We have a star in our team, no doubt, but are we expected to care whether or not he feels appreciated? I check my bank account every month to see whether I am appreciated for what I do for a living.
I get paid to fit signs for a living and wondered if it would be ok to put them up 10ft higher than the customer wanted and still get paid 10k a week , I'm going to call my new company "orlandi signs"
dave from bexill
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4:45pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Hovite wrote:Well put Hovite. It's fine and healthy having differences and arguments about different players, there would be no point coming on here otherwise. But, it's very noticeable how some have to have someone to scapegoat eg Vicente, Barnes and now CMS. Sometimes it's vitriolic to the point where it's no longer just an opinion but nasty. Likewise, some on here go over the top with their view of other posters. My guess is that a number of these people suffer from inferiority complexes in their real lives and are the type that if they don't shout, them others take no notice of them. Just one final reminder regarding Vicente, the most technically gifted player imo to have worn the stripes, if he didn't have fitness problems he would never have signed for us. Gus knows that as do most proper supporters. It's frustrating when he doesn't play, but I for one wouldn't have missed it for anything. UTA
If I was Vicente and I read all the rubbish that has been written on this thread I'd definately leave at the end of the season. What a bunch of cynical negative old gits you are, hoping to fulfill your own prophecies. Always looking for a villain.
Get a grip and appreciate what we have, the club and the players need our full support so that valuable players stay.
If you project doom, gloom and conspiracies it can only do the club harm.
Take a look at yourselves in the mirror, ask if you really are a true fan of the club, think about it for a minute and report back to me.
Old Scrote of the Amex
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4:47pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Hovite wrote:Agree with every word. We have possibly the most gifted player the club has ever had and all we can do is moan. Vicente is a footballing genius the like of which is rare even in the Prem - we should be glad we got any games out of him at all. Tomorrow could be my last change of witnessing his silky skills in a blue and white jersey and I'm going to enjoy it.
If I was Vicente and I read all the rubbish that has been written on this thread I'd definately leave at the end of the season. What a bunch of cynical negative old gits you are, hoping to fulfill your own prophecies. Always looking for a villain.
Get a grip and appreciate what we have, the club and the players need our full support so that valuable players stay.
If you project doom, gloom and conspiracies it can only do the club harm.
Take a look at yourselves in the mirror, ask if you really are a true fan of the club, think about it for a minute and report back to me.
mark by the sea
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5:00pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Don't think the fans are being overly nasty, more the knowing the genius is within the club,
Hovite wrote:Agree with every word. We have possibly the most gifted player the club has ever had and all we can do is moan. Vicente is a footballing genius the like of which is rare even in the Prem - we should be glad we got any games out of him at all. Tomorrow could be my last change of witnessing his silky skills in a blue and white jersey and I'm going to enjoy it.
If I was Vicente and I read all the rubbish that has been written on this thread I'd definately leave at the end of the season. What a bunch of cynical negative old gits you are, hoping to fulfill your own prophecies. Always looking for a villain.
Get a grip and appreciate what we have, the club and the players need our full support so that valuable players stay.
If you project doom, gloom and conspiracies it can only do the club harm.
Take a look at yourselves in the mirror, ask if you really are a true fan of the club, think about it for a minute and report back to me.
And more to the point could if fit for next 10 games get us into the play offs with ease if his head was right!
I stood as many did on Saturday to welcome him back,
On another point, the free kick Saturday was a virtual replica of another last year, club were in black and red quarters shirts? Am I imagining it? Or am I right?
Freeloaders
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5:06pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Dr Baldhead wrote:Could not be put a better way Dr Baldhead.Like you say its like the ball is glued to his feet,its just pure heaven to watch.The most gifted player to ever play for the Albion by a million miles.Maybe he could do some training with CMS before he goes.Now CMS can run all day long but never seems to take the ball with him lol.Just a thought.
Vicente won't be here next season. For my own part I'm simply looking forward to enjoying watching him as much as possible for the remainder of this season. Even though he wasn't at his majestic best during his cameo on Saturday, he entralls me by the way the ball is glued to his feet when he sets off on those mazy runs. I've never seen a more technically gifted player turn out for the Albion.
VegasSeagull
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5:14pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Restrict how many words can be used in a posting.
CMS should make way for Hoskins, even though he has only started 5 matches and done what?
Gus is leaving.
Bloom will, and should, remove Gus.
It took too long to get a target man to work with CMS, we now have one.
CMS should not partner our target man.
And on it goes.
Real opinions about any of the above are good for debate but when commenting surely it's wise to put some meat on the bones. If you think Hoskins above CMS then say why, explain your thinking. If you think Gus should go say why and offer a better option to Gus and why he would be better.
Hit and run comments are simply that, hit and run. If you don't have the ability to offer arguement to support your views then I guess you can always fall back on the, 'comments are too long,' stance, much easier isn't it.
And if all else fails, then you always have me to have a pop at, even easier.
saraman
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5:15pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Hovite wrote:I looked in the mirror Hovite and liked what I saw. I thought to myself, yep I'm a true fan and always have been since 1963/64 As are most posters on here who bother to comment regardless of the fact that others may agree or disagree. It's the passion you know that make some of us appear sometimes negative or overly optomistic. You don't become a bad fan after 50 plus years it' just that we have had so very little success as a club over 120 or so years that we are desperate for more. I believe that success is just around the corner.
If I was Vicente and I read all the rubbish that has been written on this thread I'd definately leave at the end of the season. What a bunch of cynical negative old gits you are, hoping to fulfill your own prophecies. Always looking for a villain. Get a grip and appreciate what we have, the club and the players need our full support so that valuable players stay. If you project doom, gloom and conspiracies it can only do the club harm. Take a look at yourselves in the mirror, ask if you really are a true fan of the club, think about it for a minute and report back to me.
Hovite
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5:18pm Mon 11 Feb 13
mark by the sea wrote:What do you mean you don't think fans are being overly nasty? are you saying they / you are only being slightly nasty?
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Don't think the fans are being overly nasty, more the knowing the genius is within the club,
Hovite wrote:Agree with every word. We have possibly the most gifted player the club has ever had and all we can do is moan. Vicente is a footballing genius the like of which is rare even in the Prem - we should be glad we got any games out of him at all. Tomorrow could be my last change of witnessing his silky skills in a blue and white jersey and I'm going to enjoy it.
If I was Vicente and I read all the rubbish that has been written on this thread I'd definately leave at the end of the season. What a bunch of cynical negative old gits you are, hoping to fulfill your own prophecies. Always looking for a villain.
Get a grip and appreciate what we have, the club and the players need our full support so that valuable players stay.
If you project doom, gloom and conspiracies it can only do the club harm.
Take a look at yourselves in the mirror, ask if you really are a true fan of the club, think about it for a minute and report back to me.
And more to the point could if fit for next 10 games get us into the play offs with ease if his head was right!
I stood as many did on Saturday to welcome him back,
On another point, the free kick Saturday was a virtual replica of another last year, club were in black and red quarters shirts? Am I imagining it? Or am I right?
Whatever mbts, your justification fails me
Ringmer Rich
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5:21pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Knowing that Vicente will play some part of a game makes coming to the Amex a joy
Hovite
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5:25pm Mon 11 Feb 13
saraman wrote:Wasn't even born then.
Hovite wrote:I looked in the mirror Hovite and liked what I saw. I thought to myself, yep I'm a true fan and always have been since 1963/64 As are most posters on here who bother to comment regardless of the fact that others may agree or disagree. It's the passion you know that make some of us appear sometimes negative or overly optomistic. You don't become a bad fan after 50 plus years it' just that we have had so very little success as a club over 120 or so years that we are desperate for more. I believe that success is just around the corner.
If I was Vicente and I read all the rubbish that has been written on this thread I'd definately leave at the end of the season. What a bunch of cynical negative old gits you are, hoping to fulfill your own prophecies. Always looking for a villain. Get a grip and appreciate what we have, the club and the players need our full support so that valuable players stay. If you project doom, gloom and conspiracies it can only do the club harm. Take a look at yourselves in the mirror, ask if you really are a true fan of the club, think about it for a minute and report back to me.
We expect undying player loyalty to the club on one hand, and put them to the sword with the other.
It works both ways, Man U forums aren't poluted with this sort of flippant rubbish.
Freeloaders
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5:48pm Mon 11 Feb 13
saraman wrote:Top post my friend.Hovite is a sad little man without a friend in the world,apart from his other five posts names.Some how he thinks his got some God given right to Judge who a fan is.Iv spent thousands on the club over 35 years and any negative post from me come out of pure passion like you say.
Hovite wrote:I looked in the mirror Hovite and liked what I saw. I thought to myself, yep I'm a true fan and always have been since 1963/64 As are most posters on here who bother to comment regardless of the fact that others may agree or disagree. It's the passion you know that make some of us appear sometimes negative or overly optomistic. You don't become a bad fan after 50 plus years it' just that we have had so very little success as a club over 120 or so years that we are desperate for more. I believe that success is just around the corner.
If I was Vicente and I read all the rubbish that has been written on this thread I'd definately leave at the end of the season. What a bunch of cynical negative old gits you are, hoping to fulfill your own prophecies. Always looking for a villain. Get a grip and appreciate what we have, the club and the players need our full support so that valuable players stay. If you project doom, gloom and conspiracies it can only do the club harm. Take a look at yourselves in the mirror, ask if you really are a true fan of the club, think about it for a minute and report back to me.
VegasSeagull
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6:00pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Two ways of writing basicaly the same comment.
CMS was useless on saturday, and should have been taken off. He clearly doesn't work well with Ulloa, his first touch is bad and all he seems to do is run around like a headless chicken.
CMS didn't have one of his best games on saturday and it is clear that he and Ulloa need more time to create their partnership.
CMS put in his usual hardworking performance but there were times when his first touch let him down.
As Gus has made it clear that he intends to persevere with CMS and Ulloa Hoskins will have to wait his chance.
One of the above is a personal attack, the other says pretty much the same thing without getting personal.
Yorkieseagull
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6:01pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:By the same logic 4 from 8 would be a good return as well, so let's not express our disappointment when he misses a sitter through lack of talent and ability to handle the pressure tomorrow night then, eh? It's a professional sport where missing gilt edged chances have ramifications on a broad community. If we hadn't have won on Saturday would you have been as magnanimous about Orlandi's miss?
Yorkieseagull wrote:Okay, Orlandi missed a chance against Hull, but is 4 in the previous 7 not good enough for a midfielder these days?
reagull wrote:Ha ha. And if your boss doesn't give you a nice shoulder massage before you get in your van, tell him via Twitter that you're just not enjoying fitting signs anymore. Maybe at the next Falmer training session they should bring in a cow, give Orlandi a banjo and ask him to hit it on the backside just to disprove the rumours.
Yorkieseagull wrote:returning from the amex on saturday I thought I'd watch the highlights on the football league show...... I'm trying to work something out.
Does anybody else on here only do the job they are paid to do, and are contracted to do, when they can feel the love and adulation from others who are paying their wages? We have a star in our team, no doubt, but are we expected to care whether or not he feels appreciated? I check my bank account every month to see whether I am appreciated for what I do for a living.
I get paid to fit signs for a living and wondered if it would be ok to put them up 10ft higher than the customer wanted and still get paid 10k a week , I'm going to call my new company "orlandi signs"
born again seagull
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6:06pm Mon 11 Feb 13
mark by the sea
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6:09pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Hovite wrote:I am not justifying anything, I feel cheated we have not seen more of Vicente, I don't mention him as a person, but a footballer, his ability is second to none, sadly he plays so rarely I feel cheated by it! So nasty is just that.. Cheated we have not seen him bar 40 minutes this season.
mark by the sea wrote:What do you mean you don't think fans are being overly nasty? are you saying they / you are only being slightly nasty?
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Don't think the fans are being overly nasty, more the knowing the genius is within the club,
Hovite wrote:Agree with every word. We have possibly the most gifted player the club has ever had and all we can do is moan. Vicente is a footballing genius the like of which is rare even in the Prem - we should be glad we got any games out of him at all. Tomorrow could be my last change of witnessing his silky skills in a blue and white jersey and I'm going to enjoy it.
If I was Vicente and I read all the rubbish that has been written on this thread I'd definately leave at the end of the season. What a bunch of cynical negative old gits you are, hoping to fulfill your own prophecies. Always looking for a villain.
Get a grip and appreciate what we have, the club and the players need our full support so that valuable players stay.
If you project doom, gloom and conspiracies it can only do the club harm.
Take a look at yourselves in the mirror, ask if you really are a true fan of the club, think about it for a minute and report back to me.
And more to the point could if fit for next 10 games get us into the play offs with ease if his head was right!
I stood as many did on Saturday to welcome him back,
On another point, the free kick Saturday was a virtual replica of another last year, club were in black and red quarters shirts? Am I imagining it? Or am I right?
Whatever mbts, your justification fails me
Hovite
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6:14pm Mon 11 Feb 13
wiseman of hove
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6:18pm Mon 11 Feb 13
VegasSeagull
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6:19pm Mon 11 Feb 13
The guy got injured and the team and you were deprived of his talents but I don't think either the team or you were cheated out of them.
mark by the sea
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6:21pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Hovite wrote:You can feel cheated, without it being someone's fault! You seem intent on not picking a argument? Time of the month?
Who cheated you?
mark by the sea
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6:25pm Mon 11 Feb 13
VegasSeagull wrote:Yes deprived a better term, this is a bet , if his head stays together, and he plays 450 minutes in the next ten games, we will be in the play offs, that's how good he is, if he turns injured again, I don't think we wil make it..
Mark I am not sure why you use the word, 'cheated,' did you mean that you felt, 'deprived,' of his talents?
The guy got injured and the team and you were deprived of his talents but I don't think either the team or you were cheated out of them.
wenners
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6:32pm Mon 11 Feb 13
mark by the sea wrote:And your point is ??
Think if the fans really get behind not only him but the whole side including cms' then they will produce. Sorry to say but Zamora is cheaper than Vicente .. If they got paid for the time on the pitch.
Rhodes has scored in seven consecutive matches!
pappaK
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6:37pm Mon 11 Feb 13
On average you post between 13 /15 blobs a day and sometimes there are 3 streams running.
I know I don`t have to read them,but I do because some of them are spot on,it`s just you go on and on and on.
I sometime think you give IMHO about your own Honest Opinion
A few things for you to digest
1 .If you don`t have a sense of humor,you probably have no sense at all
2 If you don`t like the heat ,get out of the fire.OR putting it another way,If you blog expect criticism from every front,when you do, except it gracefully
3.You and your mates on this site,I can somewhat understand, you all must be past the age of understanding now.
Why don`t you take your husband on a vacation,I hear Pluto is nice this time of year.Loosen up Vegas all this soccer is stressing you out.
Once again as per usual. Have a Beaut Day
Hovite
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6:44pm Mon 11 Feb 13
wenners wrote:Yeah, exactly
mark by the sea wrote:And your point is ??
Think if the fans really get behind not only him but the whole side including cms' then they will produce. Sorry to say but Zamora is cheaper than Vicente .. If they got paid for the time on the pitch.
Rhodes has scored in seven consecutive matches!
Hovite
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6:44pm Mon 11 Feb 13
pappaK wrote:Why bother?
High Vegas,I think you have to understand that there are a people in this world that do not want to have your rhetoric and battology shoved down their throats throughout these blogs day in and days out
On average you post between 13 /15 blobs a day and sometimes there are 3 streams running.
I know I don`t have to read them,but I do because some of them are spot on,it`s just you go on and on and on.
I sometime think you give IMHO about your own Honest Opinion
A few things for you to digest
1 .If you don`t have a sense of humor,you probably have no sense at all
2 If you don`t like the heat ,get out of the fire.OR putting it another way,If you blog expect criticism from every front,when you do, except it gracefully
3.You and your mates on this site,I can somewhat understand, you all must be past the age of understanding now.
Why don`t you take your husband on a vacation,I hear Pluto is nice this time of year.Loosen up Vegas all this soccer is stressing you out.
Once again as per usual. Have a Beaut Day
Hovite
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6:51pm Mon 11 Feb 13
WestStander17
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7:20pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Ringmer Rich - Agree with you. It should still be a joy everytime we all get to see our team play in our fantastic stadium, lest we forget where we have been but, yes, knowing there is a chance Vicente will be playing makes me spring up the 100-odd steps to my seat in the West Upper even more than usual! It's an honour to watch him play at all but for us is just magic!
Dave from Bexhill - Very good point to mention that if Vicente hasn't been dogged by injuries for a few years, we would never have had the chance to sign him at all. I have no doubt without the injuries he'd still be playing for Valencia in La Liga. The fans still worship him there too!
Lets just hope he can stay fit for the rest of the season. Even if we don't get to the play-offs, we will have been able to watch a world class player play in the stripes.
tonytowner1
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7:23pm Mon 11 Feb 13
dave from bexill wrote:Would you seriously put him (Vicente) above Binney?
Hovite wrote:Well put Hovite. It's fine and healthy having differences and arguments about different players, there would be no point coming on here otherwise. But, it's very noticeable how some have to have someone to scapegoat eg Vicente, Barnes and now CMS. Sometimes it's vitriolic to the point where it's no longer just an opinion but nasty. Likewise, some on here go over the top with their view of other posters. My guess is that a number of these people suffer from inferiority complexes in their real lives and are the type that if they don't shout, them others take no notice of them. Just one final reminder regarding Vicente, the most technically gifted player imo to have worn the stripes, if he didn't have fitness problems he would never have signed for us. Gus knows that as do most proper supporters. It's frustrating when he doesn't play, but I for one wouldn't have missed it for anything. UTA
If I was Vicente and I read all the rubbish that has been written on this thread I'd definately leave at the end of the season. What a bunch of cynical negative old gits you are, hoping to fulfill your own prophecies. Always looking for a villain.
Get a grip and appreciate what we have, the club and the players need our full support so that valuable players stay.
If you project doom, gloom and conspiracies it can only do the club harm.
Take a look at yourselves in the mirror, ask if you really are a true fan of the club, think about it for a minute and report back to me.
He's very very good but we simply haven't seen enough of him
What was key of course on Saturday was his shot was on target - we've had a fair few deflections go against us this season and led to goals past TS but I reckon (and it feels we may be?) be shouldn't be training to have shots off target in the hope they get a deflection and then head towards the goal quite so much - apart from Ulloa, in the pre match warm ups it seems that way anyway
Can anyone think of a single decent reason why Vicente wouldn't start tomorrow? I am reckoning he certainly will
wiseman of hove
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7:31pm Mon 11 Feb 13
tonytowner1 wrote:Lets hope he starts. Silly to start him on the bench.
dave from bexill wrote:Would you seriously put him (Vicente) above Binney?
Hovite wrote:Well put Hovite. It's fine and healthy having differences and arguments about different players, there would be no point coming on here otherwise. But, it's very noticeable how some have to have someone to scapegoat eg Vicente, Barnes and now CMS. Sometimes it's vitriolic to the point where it's no longer just an opinion but nasty. Likewise, some on here go over the top with their view of other posters. My guess is that a number of these people suffer from inferiority complexes in their real lives and are the type that if they don't shout, them others take no notice of them. Just one final reminder regarding Vicente, the most technically gifted player imo to have worn the stripes, if he didn't have fitness problems he would never have signed for us. Gus knows that as do most proper supporters. It's frustrating when he doesn't play, but I for one wouldn't have missed it for anything. UTA
If I was Vicente and I read all the rubbish that has been written on this thread I'd definately leave at the end of the season. What a bunch of cynical negative old gits you are, hoping to fulfill your own prophecies. Always looking for a villain.
Get a grip and appreciate what we have, the club and the players need our full support so that valuable players stay.
If you project doom, gloom and conspiracies it can only do the club harm.
Take a look at yourselves in the mirror, ask if you really are a true fan of the club, think about it for a minute and report back to me.
He's very very good but we simply haven't seen enough of him
What was key of course on Saturday was his shot was on target - we've had a fair few deflections go against us this season and led to goals past TS but I reckon (and it feels we may be?) be shouldn't be training to have shots off target in the hope they get a deflection and then head towards the goal quite so much - apart from Ulloa, in the pre match warm ups it seems that way anyway
Can anyone think of a single decent reason why Vicente wouldn't start tomorrow? I am reckoning he certainly will
Used to love Binney. Most of his goals were from about 6 yards out. I think he played the guitar and was nicknamed 'Goal Hungry Fred' ?
Baldseagull
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8:45pm Mon 11 Feb 13
VegasSeagull wrote:We didn't always have you to have a pop at, and I wish we still didn't.
Sadly some on here need something to make a subject of division where none exists.
Restrict how many words can be used in a posting.
CMS should make way for Hoskins, even though he has only started 5 matches and done what?
Gus is leaving.
Bloom will, and should, remove Gus.
It took too long to get a target man to work with CMS, we now have one.
CMS should not partner our target man.
And on it goes.
Real opinions about any of the above are good for debate but when commenting surely it's wise to put some meat on the bones. If you think Hoskins above CMS then say why, explain your thinking. If you think Gus should go say why and offer a better option to Gus and why he would be better.
Hit and run comments are simply that, hit and run. If you don't have the ability to offer arguement to support your views then I guess you can always fall back on the, 'comments are too long,' stance, much easier isn't it.
And if all else fails, then you always have me to have a pop at, even easier.
dave from bexill
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9:21pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Old Scrote of the Amex
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9:23pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Yorkieseagull wrote:Yes, I think I would - even the best players in the world miss easy chances, so lets not badger a decent player who HAS been scoring for missing a chance! And you're saying 'lack of talent and ability to handle the pressure' about a player who scored against Newcastle in an FA Cup game? Seriously? Were the games Orlandi HAS scored any less important than the Hull match? He missed a chance, that is all! He didn't bottle it or show a lack of talent - he had a keeper and three (THREE!) defenders to beat and tried to place it out of the reach of all of them. No doubt you would have whined if he had hit any of them by hitting it low.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:By the same logic 4 from 8 would be a good return as well, so let's not express our disappointment when he misses a sitter through lack of talent and ability to handle the pressure tomorrow night then, eh? It's a professional sport where missing gilt edged chances have ramifications on a broad community. If we hadn't have won on Saturday would you have been as magnanimous about Orlandi's miss?
Yorkieseagull wrote:Okay, Orlandi missed a chance against Hull, but is 4 in the previous 7 not good enough for a midfielder these days?
reagull wrote:Ha ha. And if your boss doesn't give you a nice shoulder massage before you get in your van, tell him via Twitter that you're just not enjoying fitting signs anymore. Maybe at the next Falmer training session they should bring in a cow, give Orlandi a banjo and ask him to hit it on the backside just to disprove the rumours.
Yorkieseagull wrote:returning from the amex on saturday I thought I'd watch the highlights on the football league show...... I'm trying to work something out.
Does anybody else on here only do the job they are paid to do, and are contracted to do, when they can feel the love and adulation from others who are paying their wages? We have a star in our team, no doubt, but are we expected to care whether or not he feels appreciated? I check my bank account every month to see whether I am appreciated for what I do for a living.
I get paid to fit signs for a living and wondered if it would be ok to put them up 10ft higher than the customer wanted and still get paid 10k a week , I'm going to call my new company "orlandi signs"
wiseman of hove
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9:39pm Mon 11 Feb 13
dave from bexill wrote:I think Tony Towner was a bit tongue in cheek over the comparison, Dave. However, Fred was indeed a legend and a great and I'm surprised that he is not 'recalled' more. Apparently, Fred's days were numbered when he told Mullers that he was making a mistake dropping him for a young Peter Ward!
Tony Towner..... Yes I would put Vicente above Fred Binney, a great goal scorer and real character, but a very different type of player to Vicente and nowhere near as technically gifted in my view, but a legend and one of my all time Albion greats
wiseman of hove
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9:42pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Agreed Old Scrote - talent and ability in abundance.
Yorkieseagull wrote:Yes, I think I would - even the best players in the world miss easy chances, so lets not badger a decent player who HAS been scoring for missing a chance! And you're saying 'lack of talent and ability to handle the pressure' about a player who scored against Newcastle in an FA Cup game? Seriously? Were the games Orlandi HAS scored any less important than the Hull match? He missed a chance, that is all! He didn't bottle it or show a lack of talent - he had a keeper and three (THREE!) defenders to beat and tried to place it out of the reach of all of them. No doubt you would have whined if he had hit any of them by hitting it low.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:By the same logic 4 from 8 would be a good return as well, so let's not express our disappointment when he misses a sitter through lack of talent and ability to handle the pressure tomorrow night then, eh? It's a professional sport where missing gilt edged chances have ramifications on a broad community. If we hadn't have won on Saturday would you have been as magnanimous about Orlandi's miss?
Yorkieseagull wrote:Okay, Orlandi missed a chance against Hull, but is 4 in the previous 7 not good enough for a midfielder these days?
reagull wrote:Ha ha. And if your boss doesn't give you a nice shoulder massage before you get in your van, tell him via Twitter that you're just not enjoying fitting signs anymore. Maybe at the next Falmer training session they should bring in a cow, give Orlandi a banjo and ask him to hit it on the backside just to disprove the rumours.
Yorkieseagull wrote:returning from the amex on saturday I thought I'd watch the highlights on the football league show...... I'm trying to work something out.
Does anybody else on here only do the job they are paid to do, and are contracted to do, when they can feel the love and adulation from others who are paying their wages? We have a star in our team, no doubt, but are we expected to care whether or not he feels appreciated? I check my bank account every month to see whether I am appreciated for what I do for a living.
I get paid to fit signs for a living and wondered if it would be ok to put them up 10ft higher than the customer wanted and still get paid 10k a week , I'm going to call my new company "orlandi signs"
Clean Sheet
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9:50pm Mon 11 Feb 13
dave from bexill
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9:53pm Mon 11 Feb 13
wiseman of hove wrote:Yes I guessed Tony was talking tongue in cheek, although one can never be sure on here. Anyway it was still nice to be reminded of Fred and his guitar
dave from bexill wrote:I think Tony Towner was a bit tongue in cheek over the comparison, Dave. However, Fred was indeed a legend and a great and I'm surprised that he is not 'recalled' more. Apparently, Fred's days were numbered when he told Mullers that he was making a mistake dropping him for a young Peter Ward!
Tony Towner..... Yes I would put Vicente above Fred Binney, a great goal scorer and real character, but a very different type of player to Vicente and nowhere near as technically gifted in my view, but a legend and one of my all time Albion greats
Eddy B
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10:02pm Mon 11 Feb 13
The one advantage of Brighton not taking a lead into a second half is we are more likely to see him come on if on the subs' bench, but let's start him and go for a 2 or 3 goal lead by 60 minutes!
wiseman of hove
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10:07pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Clean Sheet wrote:A bit of drifting off the thread, as the postings slow down, is beneficial. It can evoke some tremendous memories and Fred is certainly one of them.
Apologies for the Fred Drift, but Fred Binney was a fantastic mentor for the young Peter Ward. I only ever saw delight in Fred's face when Wardy scored, which was quite regularly.
VegasSeagull
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10:13pm Mon 11 Feb 13
VegasSeagull
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12:07am Tue 12 Feb 13
Baldseagull wrote:One dumb plucker following another plcker's lead, how sad.
VegasSeagull wrote: Sadly some on here need something to make a subject of division where none exists. Restrict how many words can be used in a posting. CMS should make way for Hoskins, even though he has only started 5 matches and done what? Gus is leaving. Bloom will, and should, remove Gus. It took too long to get a target man to work with CMS, we now have one. CMS should not partner our target man. And on it goes. Real opinions about any of the above are good for debate but when commenting surely it's wise to put some meat on the bones. If you think Hoskins above CMS then say why, explain your thinking. If you think Gus should go say why and offer a better option to Gus and why he would be better. Hit and run comments are simply that, hit and run. If you don't have the ability to offer arguement to support your views then I guess you can always fall back on the, 'comments are too long,' stance, much easier isn't it. And if all else fails, then you always have me to have a pop at, even easier.We didn't always have you to have a pop at, and I wish we still didn't.
The only subject on this thread that Papa cared to comment on was me. Nothing about the team, the selections issues or tactics, not one word, a true bumb plucker. Papa must be happy today, it appears he has found a new playmate in Baldy, so now we have two bumb pluckers.
Hovite says, 'post as often as you want Vegas, it will wind these pluckers up,' well I will post as often as I want but not to wind them up, I will do so in the hope that those with a modicom of interest in our team will debate.
You are a childish fool Papa and Baldy, I am surprised that you allowed yourself to be dragged down to his level as those that follow a fool's lead, well he is the most foolish of all because he should know better.
I can't wait to read what tomorrow brings but I do hope that Baldy will have a thought that is all his own work.
wiltshire seagull
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10:58am Tue 12 Feb 13
tug509
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1:01pm Tue 12 Feb 13
saraman wrote:Only just looked properly at this thread,but this is an excellent post. You cant imo be a true supporter unless you have real passion. Whilst you should try and temper that passion with regards to players,it can sometimes be hard. I believe frustration in a player can evoke negative comments from people,if as with Vicente,we all know how exquisite the mans gift is,so when he has 5 months out,it turns eager anticipation into said frustration and even mild anger. I for one can be very rude to other posters,but ONLY if they commit the cardinal sin and abuse or insult the Albion,or belittle us in some way,i have said here before,i can take insults aimed at me,but not my first love. After all im only human,albeit barely. UTA
Hovite wrote:I looked in the mirror Hovite and liked what I saw. I thought to myself, yep I'm a true fan and always have been since 1963/64 As are most posters on here who bother to comment regardless of the fact that others may agree or disagree. It's the passion you know that make some of us appear sometimes negative or overly optomistic. You don't become a bad fan after 50 plus years it' just that we have had so very little success as a club over 120 or so years that we are desperate for more. I believe that success is just around the corner.
If I was Vicente and I read all the rubbish that has been written on this thread I'd definately leave at the end of the season. What a bunch of cynical negative old gits you are, hoping to fulfill your own prophecies. Always looking for a villain. Get a grip and appreciate what we have, the club and the players need our full support so that valuable players stay. If you project doom, gloom and conspiracies it can only do the club harm. Take a look at yourselves in the mirror, ask if you really are a true fan of the club, think about it for a minute and report back to me.
Hovite
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1:35pm Tue 12 Feb 13
I very much doubt Vicente would waste his time on here but if he did, and you were him, would you pledge your playing career to us?
tug509
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2:54pm Tue 12 Feb 13
Freeloaders
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4:07pm Tue 12 Feb 13
tug509 wrote:Get a room lol.
Agree totally,i liked your explanation on one of the newer threads,you replied to OSA,about the said,wums and trolls,i think you have got them worked out pretty well. Hope you enjoy the game tonight Hovite. UTA
Hovite
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5:43pm Tue 12 Feb 13
tug509 wrote:Cheers tug, just leaving for it now ;o)
Agree totally,i liked your explanation on one of the newer threads,you replied to OSA,about the said,wums and trolls,i think you have got them worked out pretty well. Hope you enjoy the game tonight Hovite. UTA
tug509
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9:46pm Tue 12 Feb 13
Freeloaders wrote:get a new line ........silence.
tug509 wrote:Get a room lol.
Agree totally,i liked your explanation on one of the newer threads,you replied to OSA,about the said,wums and trolls,i think you have got them worked out pretty well. Hope you enjoy the game tonight Hovite. UTA

mark by the sea says...
11:05am Mon 11 Feb 13
Rhodes has scored in seven consecutive matches!