Bruno not in top shape yet (From The Argus)
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Bruno not in top shape yet
12:32pm Monday 11th February 2013 in Sport By Andy Naylor
Bruno (third left) is not punching his full weight yet.
Bruno admits he needs another week to feel in peak condition for Albion.
The Spanish right-back lasted 74 minutes against Hull on Saturday after missing nine of the ten previous matches due to an Achilles injury and a bout of 'flu.
Bruno said: "The Achilles is really good now but two months is a long time to be out and I need a week more before I feel 100 per cent.
"It was really nice to play again and I am especially happy with the three points, because it was really important for us."
Bruno will line up again in the back four with Matt Upson for Blackburn's visit to The Amex tomorrow night after the on-loan former England centre-half made his home debut against Hull.
"He is a good player," Bruno said. "He has a lot of experience and he is a different central defender, because he is left-footed. It is easier for him than, for example, Adam El-Abd or Dunky (Lewis Dunk)."
Captain Gordon Greer (hamstring) is again ruled out of the clash against his first English club, together with midfielder Andrew Crofts (hamstring), while striker Ashley Barnes serves the second game of his three-match ban.
Comments(33)
bruce beckett
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3:18pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Blackburn are going to be even harder to beat than Hull. Rhodes is more likely to score than not, so we can't wait too long for CMS and Ulloa to click. Let's hope Buckers is there alongside them tomorrow.
CMS seems to be one of those strikers who scores his goals in bunches and boy, is he due a hot streak. No one can fault his effort but we didn't pay all that money for a high work ratio and no end result. Now is the time, otherwise it will be time to give Mr. Hoskins a run in the side. UTA!
Old Scrote of the Amex
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3:36pm Mon 11 Feb 13
bruce beckett wrote:I'm not saying we'll beat Blackburn (although I hope we do as I'm going!) but Hull are a better (the best) away side, so I don't see why we would find Rovers a tougher egg to crack.
The only problem there, Graham W, is that it limits what Gus can do off the bench. If he knows Bruno can't play a full 90 mins, he has to keep Calderon up his sleeve. All you need then is one injury and you're limited to one tactical substitution.
Blackburn are going to be even harder to beat than Hull. Rhodes is more likely to score than not, so we can't wait too long for CMS and Ulloa to click. Let's hope Buckers is there alongside them tomorrow.
CMS seems to be one of those strikers who scores his goals in bunches and boy, is he due a hot streak. No one can fault his effort but we didn't pay all that money for a high work ratio and no end result. Now is the time, otherwise it will be time to give Mr. Hoskins a run in the side. UTA!
VegasSeagull
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3:51pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Rovers have a weakness in midfield, they admit this and are hoping to sign players, maybe one new one for our meeting.
bruce beckett wrote: The only problem there, Graham W, is that it limits what Gus can do off the bench. If he knows Bruno can't play a full 90 mins, he has to keep Calderon up his sleeve. All you need then is one injury and you're limited to one tactical substitution. Blackburn are going to be even harder to beat than Hull. Rhodes is more likely to score than not, so we can't wait too long for CMS and Ulloa to click. Let's hope Buckers is there alongside them tomorrow. CMS seems to be one of those strikers who scores his goals in bunches and boy, is he due a hot streak. No one can fault his effort but we didn't pay all that money for a high work ratio and no end result. Now is the time, otherwise it will be time to give Mr. Hoskins a run in the side. UTA!I'm not saying we'll beat Blackburn (although I hope we do as I'm going!) but Hull are a better (the best) away side, so I don't see why we would find Rovers a tougher egg to crack.
I would doubt that Gus will make changes to the team that started saturday, unless he has to. I think it will be hard for Gus to start Vicente as to my mind Orlandi would have to step down, and I don't think Gus will want to do that.
bruce beckett
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4:23pm Mon 11 Feb 13
I agree with you, Vegas, in that I can't see Gus dropping Orlandi for Vicente, but if he's willing to take risks, which he claims he is, surely Buckley should start to give the team more width? The bold move would to be to leave Hammond out but I think it's more likely to be Lopez.
ballantrrae
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4:35pm Mon 11 Feb 13
bruce beckett wrote:BB you raise an interesting issue regarding how Poyet might use the subs bench against Blackburn.
The only problem there, Graham W, is that it limits what Gus can do off the bench. If he knows Bruno can't play a full 90 mins, he has to keep Calderon up his sleeve. All you need then is one injury and you're limited to one tactical substitution.
Blackburn are going to be even harder to beat than Hull. Rhodes is more likely to score than not, so we can't wait too long for CMS and Ulloa to click. Let's hope Buckers is there alongside them tomorrow.
CMS seems to be one of those strikers who scores his goals in bunches and boy, is he due a hot streak. No one can fault his effort but we didn't pay all that money for a high work ratio and no end result. Now is the time, otherwise it will be time to give Mr. Hoskins a run in the side. UTA!
Firstly Poyet on another thread (yesterday) speculated on how Ulloa would recover after saturday and therefore by implication whether he will be fit enough to last the whole game on Tuesday. My guess is that he will be substituted either by Hoskins or Vicente.
Secondly Bruno seems to be saying on this thread that he isn't fit enough again yet to last 90 minutes. I suspect that he will be substituted once more by Buckley with David reverting to RB. Depending on the state of the game Poyet might bring on Calde for Bruno.
hat effectively leaves one 'tactical' substitution.
If Hoskins is on for Ulloa then Vicente would come on for Orlandi or CMS. However if Vicente was on for Ulloa then either Dicker could replace Hammond or LuaLua could replace Orlandi.
Based on the first half performance against Hull I imagine Poyet will retain the same starting 11 and same bench.
Old Scrote of the Amex
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4:40pm Mon 11 Feb 13
bruce beckett wrote:But only 3 away victories all season. 8 draws though, and that's where my money is.
Blackburn have won three on the bounce and have lost only once in the last nine. Would have been seven wins out of nine but for our last-gasp pen at Ewood Park. They're probably the form team in the division.
I agree with you, Vegas, in that I can't see Gus dropping Orlandi for Vicente, but if he's willing to take risks, which he claims he is, surely Buckley should start to give the team more width? The bold move would to be to leave Hammond out but I think it's more likely to be Lopez.
Far gull
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5:02pm Mon 11 Feb 13
ballantrrae wrote:Agree same again unless ulloa not quite there and then poss buckley to start but if cold and his hamstring still not 100% (joking apart about cold but may affect those with them)
bruce beckett wrote:BB you raise an interesting issue regarding how Poyet might use the subs bench against Blackburn.
The only problem there, Graham W, is that it limits what Gus can do off the bench. If he knows Bruno can't play a full 90 mins, he has to keep Calderon up his sleeve. All you need then is one injury and you're limited to one tactical substitution.
Blackburn are going to be even harder to beat than Hull. Rhodes is more likely to score than not, so we can't wait too long for CMS and Ulloa to click. Let's hope Buckers is there alongside them tomorrow.
CMS seems to be one of those strikers who scores his goals in bunches and boy, is he due a hot streak. No one can fault his effort but we didn't pay all that money for a high work ratio and no end result. Now is the time, otherwise it will be time to give Mr. Hoskins a run in the side. UTA!
Firstly Poyet on another thread (yesterday) speculated on how Ulloa would recover after saturday and therefore by implication whether he will be fit enough to last the whole game on Tuesday. My guess is that he will be substituted either by Hoskins or Vicente.
Secondly Bruno seems to be saying on this thread that he isn't fit enough again yet to last 90 minutes. I suspect that he will be substituted once more by Buckley with David reverting to RB. Depending on the state of the game Poyet might bring on Calde for Bruno.
hat effectively leaves one 'tactical' substitution.
If Hoskins is on for Ulloa then Vicente would come on for Orlandi or CMS. However if Vicente was on for Ulloa then either Dicker could replace Hammond or LuaLua could replace Orlandi.
Based on the first half performance against Hull I imagine Poyet will retain the same starting 11 and same bench.
Much as i rate Hoskins poor guy just not getting a look in and won't unless injury strikes. not at the same level obviously but similar to hernadez at MU and he scores almost every time he plays!!
Far gull
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5:05pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:No ,NO NOOO more b' draws . :-)
bruce beckett wrote:But only 3 away victories all season. 8 draws though, and that's where my money is.
Blackburn have won three on the bounce and have lost only once in the last nine. Would have been seven wins out of nine but for our last-gasp pen at Ewood Park. They're probably the form team in the division.
I agree with you, Vegas, in that I can't see Gus dropping Orlandi for Vicente, but if he's willing to take risks, which he claims he is, surely Buckley should start to give the team more width? The bold move would to be to leave Hammond out but I think it's more likely to be Lopez.
Old Scrote of the Amex
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5:11pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Far gull wrote:I'm not saying that's what I want :-) Reading their fans' forum they seem to think they'll be pleased to avoid defeat... it's a long way from home and it will be cold so lets send them home even more miserable!
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:No ,NO NOOO more b' draws . :-)
bruce beckett wrote:But only 3 away victories all season. 8 draws though, and that's where my money is.
Blackburn have won three on the bounce and have lost only once in the last nine. Would have been seven wins out of nine but for our last-gasp pen at Ewood Park. They're probably the form team in the division.
I agree with you, Vegas, in that I can't see Gus dropping Orlandi for Vicente, but if he's willing to take risks, which he claims he is, surely Buckley should start to give the team more width? The bold move would to be to leave Hammond out but I think it's more likely to be Lopez.
Far gull
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5:15pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Agreed :-).
Far gull wrote:I'm not saying that's what I want :-) Reading their fans' forum they seem to think they'll be pleased to avoid defeat... it's a long way from home and it will be cold so lets send them home even more miserable!
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:No ,NO NOOO more b' draws . :-)
bruce beckett wrote:But only 3 away victories all season. 8 draws though, and that's where my money is.
Blackburn have won three on the bounce and have lost only once in the last nine. Would have been seven wins out of nine but for our last-gasp pen at Ewood Park. They're probably the form team in the division.
I agree with you, Vegas, in that I can't see Gus dropping Orlandi for Vicente, but if he's willing to take risks, which he claims he is, surely Buckley should start to give the team more width? The bold move would to be to leave Hammond out but I think it's more likely to be Lopez.
Freeloaders
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5:33pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Far gull wrote:LOL. Just like Hernadez he scores every time he players LOL.Please how do you work this out.Saying that i think he should be given some game time.One more chance to prove he wants it,then if not off the wage bill asap.
ballantrrae wrote:Agree same again unless ulloa not quite there and then poss buckley to start but if cold and his hamstring still not 100% (joking apart about cold but may affect those with them)
bruce beckett wrote:BB you raise an interesting issue regarding how Poyet might use the subs bench against Blackburn.
The only problem there, Graham W, is that it limits what Gus can do off the bench. If he knows Bruno can't play a full 90 mins, he has to keep Calderon up his sleeve. All you need then is one injury and you're limited to one tactical substitution.
Blackburn are going to be even harder to beat than Hull. Rhodes is more likely to score than not, so we can't wait too long for CMS and Ulloa to click. Let's hope Buckers is there alongside them tomorrow.
CMS seems to be one of those strikers who scores his goals in bunches and boy, is he due a hot streak. No one can fault his effort but we didn't pay all that money for a high work ratio and no end result. Now is the time, otherwise it will be time to give Mr. Hoskins a run in the side. UTA!
Firstly Poyet on another thread (yesterday) speculated on how Ulloa would recover after saturday and therefore by implication whether he will be fit enough to last the whole game on Tuesday. My guess is that he will be substituted either by Hoskins or Vicente.
Secondly Bruno seems to be saying on this thread that he isn't fit enough again yet to last 90 minutes. I suspect that he will be substituted once more by Buckley with David reverting to RB. Depending on the state of the game Poyet might bring on Calde for Bruno.
hat effectively leaves one 'tactical' substitution.
If Hoskins is on for Ulloa then Vicente would come on for Orlandi or CMS. However if Vicente was on for Ulloa then either Dicker could replace Hammond or LuaLua could replace Orlandi.
Based on the first half performance against Hull I imagine Poyet will retain the same starting 11 and same bench.
Much as i rate Hoskins poor guy just not getting a look in and won't unless injury strikes. not at the same level obviously but similar to hernadez at MU and he scores almost every time he plays!!
Freeloaders
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5:51pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Far gull
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6:14pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Freeloaders wrote:Reading it back does not read well,Hoskins no Hernadez in goal scoring numbers, but even if he did somehow not sure he would get any more game time from Gus ? it was game time i was more refering to. Perhaps and i cannot say i sit in any one camp for or against barnesy but hell if Hoskins had his game time he would have certainly had more chances .Would he have converted them we will never know.
Far gull wrote:LOL. Just like Hernadez he scores every time he players LOL.Please how do you work this out.Saying that i think he should be given some game time.One more chance to prove he wants it,then if not off the wage bill asap.
ballantrrae wrote:Agree same again unless ulloa not quite there and then poss buckley to start but if cold and his hamstring still not 100% (joking apart about cold but may affect those with them)
bruce beckett wrote:BB you raise an interesting issue regarding how Poyet might use the subs bench against Blackburn.
The only problem there, Graham W, is that it limits what Gus can do off the bench. If he knows Bruno can't play a full 90 mins, he has to keep Calderon up his sleeve. All you need then is one injury and you're limited to one tactical substitution.
Blackburn are going to be even harder to beat than Hull. Rhodes is more likely to score than not, so we can't wait too long for CMS and Ulloa to click. Let's hope Buckers is there alongside them tomorrow.
CMS seems to be one of those strikers who scores his goals in bunches and boy, is he due a hot streak. No one can fault his effort but we didn't pay all that money for a high work ratio and no end result. Now is the time, otherwise it will be time to give Mr. Hoskins a run in the side. UTA!
Firstly Poyet on another thread (yesterday) speculated on how Ulloa would recover after saturday and therefore by implication whether he will be fit enough to last the whole game on Tuesday. My guess is that he will be substituted either by Hoskins or Vicente.
Secondly Bruno seems to be saying on this thread that he isn't fit enough again yet to last 90 minutes. I suspect that he will be substituted once more by Buckley with David reverting to RB. Depending on the state of the game Poyet might bring on Calde for Bruno.
hat effectively leaves one 'tactical' substitution.
If Hoskins is on for Ulloa then Vicente would come on for Orlandi or CMS. However if Vicente was on for Ulloa then either Dicker could replace Hammond or LuaLua could replace Orlandi.
Based on the first half performance against Hull I imagine Poyet will retain the same starting 11 and same bench.
Much as i rate Hoskins poor guy just not getting a look in and won't unless injury strikes. not at the same level obviously but similar to hernadez at MU and he scores almost every time he plays!!
Happen to think his performance and goal against newcastle at least merited a game v Arsenal, lets face it Ankergren played and arguably cost us a replay!!!
Ps You can't of load all of our no first eleven as you always seem to suggest or we would have no cover for injuries or loss of form.!!
VileFreeloader
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8:29pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Freeloaders wrote:What on earth is your point THIS time? You're comparing players from two different teams in two different divisions, in case you hadn't noticed. And just why are you so concerned about our wage bill - are you paying it out of your own pocket?
Cook MOTM.Dunk not even in the squad.
Old Scrote of the Amex
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8:38pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Hovite
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9:19pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Yep, this is concrete proof that no one on here knows anything about managing and picking the team (including me). Good job TB has picked the right man for the managers job and not one of the part time wannabe managers on here.
Interestingly, regarding the 'CMS has a poor first touch bandwagon', I can find only one mention of it in the Argus comments section before November 2012. Now all of a sudden everyone has independently garnered the same opinion? (Previous mentions of a poor first touch were confined to comments on Hoskins - a player many want instead of CMS - and Barnes.)
You can either try to understand and learn why things are done a certain way or you can be dragged along kicking and screaming.
Freeloaders
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10:36pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Freeloaders
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10:46pm Mon 11 Feb 13
VileFreeloader wrote:The fact you can't see the point im making just proves you can't work things out for yourself.Thats why your the only one to ask lol.Im concerned about the wage bill you brain dead mug because im a real fan of over 35 years.The more of the wage bill spent on freeloaders like your family will hold the club back.I want the manager to have all the money he can for the best players he can.
Freeloaders wrote:What on earth is your point THIS time? You're comparing players from two different teams in two different divisions, in case you hadn't noticed. And just why are you so concerned about our wage bill - are you paying it out of your own pocket?
Cook MOTM.Dunk not even in the squad.
mark by the sea
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10:52pm Mon 11 Feb 13
Freeloaders wrote:The point about cms first touch is right, it's not a conspiracy theory, reason it started in November is the same as when some wanted Gus sacked, it's about results, had TK not made two great saves, and a forward miss a sitter, we would be having the moaning about Gus not picking the right side! Cms had he scored 5 in last few weeks would not have been put under the spotlight! But those goals would not change his first touch, other than confidence..
Really Hovite why do you come on here then?Only a few mths ago you called it a two bob site.Now its full of wannabe managers.A job Harry Redknapp is on record as saying most fans in a pub could do.His words the fans in the pubs know as much about some of these players as we all do.If you hate the site and the people on it Hovite so much why come on it everyday and upset yourself?The only reason can be you really do have know life or friends.
Why are people on here wanting less words, Less Vegas etc..
Managers do get it wrong , chairman get it wrong, players make mistakes, and fans wear tinted glasses about the club they support!
We are lucky to have a great club in a wonderful city, which will be playing premiership football in 2014.
Ps freeloader, your going to have to change your name soon! The club are going to Weald the axe on not only certain players, but the club will house developement players at the university. Space for 50 players will be built soon.
VileFreeloader
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12:00am Tue 12 Feb 13
Freeloaders wrote:You flatter yourself. The reason I'm the only one to ask is that everyone else has given up on working out what the hell you're blathering on about. You are truly, truly random. Except your insults. Is 'mug' really as good as you have?
VileFreeloader wrote:The fact you can't see the point im making just proves you can't work things out for yourself.Thats why your the only one to ask lol.Im concerned about the wage bill you brain dead mug because im a real fan of over 35 years.The more of the wage bill spent on freeloaders like your family will hold the club back.I want the manager to have all the money he can for the best players he can.
Freeloaders wrote:What on earth is your point THIS time? You're comparing players from two different teams in two different divisions, in case you hadn't noticed. And just why are you so concerned about our wage bill - are you paying it out of your own pocket?
Cook MOTM.Dunk not even in the squad.
Freeloaders
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1:23am Tue 12 Feb 13
saraman
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6:40am Tue 12 Feb 13
MHubbs
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7:21am Tue 12 Feb 13
He has the habit when a winger approaches of backing off, putting his arms behind his back and jumping in the air as if auditioning for the national ballet, hahaha. Consequently we have suffered a couple of those crosses being converted into goals.
Contrast, Bridge closes down, stays low and close and challenges on the cross. He has barely conceded a cross all year!!
Going forward, his passing is often sloppy and unsure. He has on occasions combined well down the right but overall I don't feel that he offered anything more than Inigo.
As for his man of the match on Saturday, hahaha, what a joke!! Should have been TK who clearly saved us.
Nothing against Bruno, overall, but IMO the hype over him far outweighs what he brings😕
mark by the sea
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7:41am Tue 12 Feb 13
saraman
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7:50am Tue 12 Feb 13
mark by the sea wrote:What behaviour is that then Mark?
Shirt sponsor is leaving, and they have the naming rights now for the cricket ground, that will be announced in a months time, the club will swing the axe very soon on those the club don't feel meet the standard behaviour required.
mark by the sea
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7:56am Tue 12 Feb 13
saraman wrote:Think it's been on every news station over last few weeks, club can't be associated with that.
mark by the sea wrote:What behaviour is that then Mark?
Shirt sponsor is leaving, and they have the naming rights now for the cricket ground, that will be announced in a months time, the club will swing the axe very soon on those the club don't feel meet the standard behaviour required.
Not sure we can talk about it as its gone to a replay.
saraman
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8:23am Tue 12 Feb 13
WestStander17
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9:05am Tue 12 Feb 13
MBTS - No expert on sponsorship etc but can a sponsor pull out of a deal whenever they like? Surely not. Even if they can, I can't see the club having a problem getting new sponsorship offers. A chance of Prem football in the next year or 2, plenty of tv coverage due to the manager and style of play, full stadium most weeks and shirt sales must be as high as ever.
VileFreeloader
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9:21am Tue 12 Feb 13
Freeloaders wrote:If you ever make a salient point I will answer - but your posting are mostly gibberish. Cook MOTM, Dunk not in squad. What relevance does that have?
Just read MBTS post above Hovite.Yes we can all work out its you lol.Yet again you have know anser to the point i make above.Or show any sign you really care about the club.Like MBTS said the freeloaders days will soon be over.Lets face it they can all see my posts are 100% spot on.I was 100% spot about the debt long before anyone on here apart from MBTS.I was also 100% spot on the club would make a statement about Leo once the club got the money for Grant Hall.You billy know mates have nothing to say about the club.Now as you make it so clear how much you dislike the site please jog on you sad little man.
And just because you seem too dense to understand I'll explain again in very short sentences: I. AM. NOT. HOVITE. Amazingly more than one person one here thinks you're a mug (I was going to use another insult but you only know the one.)
mark by the sea
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9:33am Tue 12 Feb 13
WestStander17 wrote:Deal ends this summer, but they went to another format being the cricket ground naming rights! But it's the bad press that does not help the club get premium money for shirt.
MHubbs - I would say the one thing Bruno isn't is "unsure". If anything, usually when he misplaces a pass, it's because he is attempting a tricky pass with the outside of his boot or a little flick or something. I don't think confidence is ever going to be a problem for Bruno! He offers more going forward than Calderon which we need if we play a narrow midfield to accommodate 2 strikers. Calderon is a more solid option defensively though for sure.
MBTS - No expert on sponsorship etc but can a sponsor pull out of a deal whenever they like? Surely not. Even if they can, I can't see the club having a problem getting new sponsorship offers. A chance of Prem football in the next year or 2, plenty of tv coverage due to the manager and style of play, full stadium most weeks and shirt sales must be as high as ever.
Old Scrote of the Amex
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10:15am Tue 12 Feb 13
mark by the sea wrote:The overarching impression of the club is very positive - most people associate the club with being on the up and up, not with the alleged behaviour of a couple of fringe players, at least two of which probably won't be with the club next season.
WestStander17 wrote:Deal ends this summer, but they went to another format being the cricket ground naming rights! But it's the bad press that does not help the club get premium money for shirt.
MHubbs - I would say the one thing Bruno isn't is "unsure". If anything, usually when he misplaces a pass, it's because he is attempting a tricky pass with the outside of his boot or a little flick or something. I don't think confidence is ever going to be a problem for Bruno! He offers more going forward than Calderon which we need if we play a narrow midfield to accommodate 2 strikers. Calderon is a more solid option defensively though for sure.
MBTS - No expert on sponsorship etc but can a sponsor pull out of a deal whenever they like? Surely not. Even if they can, I can't see the club having a problem getting new sponsorship offers. A chance of Prem football in the next year or 2, plenty of tv coverage due to the manager and style of play, full stadium most weeks and shirt sales must be as high as ever.
Freeloaders
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4:12pm Tue 12 Feb 13
MHubbs wrote:Yet another outstanding post from yet another fan with his own brain.Tk was MOTM by a million miles.Plus it was only down to him and Vicente 100% we got the three points.
Regarding Bruno's defending, I would say he ranges from poor to diabolical. He has cost us a couple of goals this year already.
He has the habit when a winger approaches of backing off, putting his arms behind his back and jumping in the air as if auditioning for the national ballet, hahaha. Consequently we have suffered a couple of those crosses being converted into goals.
Contrast, Bridge closes down, stays low and close and challenges on the cross. He has barely conceded a cross all year!!
Going forward, his passing is often sloppy and unsure. He has on occasions combined well down the right but overall I don't feel that he offered anything more than Inigo.
As for his man of the match on Saturday, hahaha, what a joke!! Should have been TK who clearly saved us.
Nothing against Bruno, overall, but IMO the hype over him far outweighs what he brings😕

graham w says...
2:13pm Mon 11 Feb 13