Albion striker ruled out for rest of the season (From The Argus)

seagullsays wrote:
What a shame for WH. Does seem prone to injury. Hope he makes a full recovery and is back playing next season. Not sure whether it'll be with us though, as I think his contract may be up. Interesting how GP lists Vicente in his striker options. I think he's sensational in the attacking midfielder role, and would prefer to see him left there. Moving him further forward may detract from the overall impact he has, as he'd be less involved in general build up play.

heathgate wrote:
Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.

Hovite wrote:

heathgate wrote:
Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.

Totally agree

mark by the sea wrote:

Hovite wrote:

heathgate wrote:
Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.

Totally agree

Sorry but what has Toby done to get a chance? We are after a play off this season, that surely has to be our aim with 45 points to play for, sadly Kevin Phillips is at palace, .. I would go for experienced loan,

mark by the sea wrote:

Hovite wrote:

heathgate wrote:
Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.

Totally agree

Sorry but what has Toby done to get a chance? We are after a play off this season, that surely has to be our aim with 45 points to play for, sadly Kevin Phillips is at palace, .. I would go for experienced loan,

VileFreeloader wrote:
Freeloaders says... 12:11pm Wed 13 Feb 13 "LOL,odd that he told Gus it was his knee when he came off lol." Hmm, not very odd at all then, was it? It's almost like Hoskins could tell which part of his leg was hurting! Your superior knowledge failing you yet again. LOL!

heathgate wrote:
Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.

Yogi wrote:
Shame this for Will.

What happened with regard to Gus's statement that he was going to give CMS and Ulloa a chance to persevere with their partnership???

If it is to be a loan then let's get someone in who can "win us a game"

Grendel wrote:

Yogi wrote:
Shame this for Will.

What happened with regard to Gus's statement that he was going to give CMS and Ulloa a chance to persevere with their partnership???

If it is to be a loan then let's get someone in who can "win us a game"

Probably CMS's poor performance against Hull.

mitchellc123 wrote:
I don't know if you agree with me and I know this is a long shot but i feel that jake Forster caskey should get his run and why not up front because last time he played in the squad he scored am I not right I don't know I just think its about time he had his turn again.

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

mitchellc123 wrote:
I don't know if you agree with me and I know this is a long shot but i feel that jake Forster caskey should get his run and why not up front because last time he played in the squad he scored am I not right I don't know I just think its about time he had his turn again.

Because he's a central midfielder and we are overrun with those. He is in no way a striker.

mitchellc123 wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

mitchellc123 wrote:
I don't know if you agree with me and I know this is a long shot but i feel that jake Forster caskey should get his run and why not up front because last time he played in the squad he scored am I not right I don't know I just think its about time he had his turn again.

Because he's a central midfielder and we are overrun with those. He is in no way a striker.

Yes but yet heis still young so why not let him try its just purely my opinion

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Most of you know that I have called for Will Hoskins to be given the chance he deserves for quite a time and this injury is a very cruel blow for both him and the club. It surely didn't go unnoticed that during his last 2 appearances (Newcastle and, in particlar, BRovers) the speed of interplay between midfield and strikers went up a notch. He is capable of reading the game and playing one touch football with accuracy. To maintain the momentum of those first 20 mins against Rovers we need a similar player, with control and vision. Do we really have one in the squad or peripherals... I'm not sure, but I really hope so. Fingers crossed.

VileFreeloader wrote:
Freeloaders says...
12:11pm Wed 13 Feb 13
"LOL,odd that he told Gus it was his knee when he came off lol."

Hmm, not very odd at all then, was it? It's almost like Hoskins could tell which part of his leg was hurting! Your superior knowledge failing you yet again. LOL!

bruce beckett wrote:
Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years?

My shortlist would be:

Bobby Zamora
Mark Lawrenson
Brian Horton
Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to
Liverpool)
Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)

fratsomrover wrote:
Desperately sorry for Will. Just hope he makes a full recovery and will be back for the start of next season. It's a cruel game sometimes and I wish him the best of luck.

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Most of you know that I have called for Will Hoskins to be given the chance he deserves for quite a time and this injury is a very cruel blow for both him and the club. It surely didn't go unnoticed that during his last 2 appearances (Newcastle and, in particlar, BRovers) the speed of interplay between midfield and strikers went up a notch. He is capable of reading the game and playing one touch football with accuracy. To maintain the momentum of those first 20 mins against Rovers we need a similar player, with control and vision. Do we really have one in the squad or peripherals... I'm not sure, but I really hope so. Fingers crossed.

ballantrrae wrote:

bruce beckett wrote:
Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years?

My shortlist would be:

Bobby Zamora
Mark Lawrenson
Brian Horton
Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to
Liverpool)
Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)

Bobby Zamora equal first choice(bought for £100,000 I think and sold for a reported £1.5 Million) with Mark Lawrenson second (bought for £112,500 and sold for around £950,000 I believe).
Both outstanding players who would get into my all time Seagulls team - I started watching the Albion in 1958.
Difficult to choose between them. Zamoras goals were invaluable but Lawrenson played at a higher level for us and had a more illustrious career after he left.
Might I add good club servants like Kit Napier and Gary Nelson to your list. Danny Wilson also comes to mnd.

Brighton Barca wrote:

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Most of you know that I have called for Will Hoskins to be given the chance he deserves for quite a time and this injury is a very cruel blow for both him and the club. It surely didn't go unnoticed that during his last 2 appearances (Newcastle and, in particlar, BRovers) the speed of interplay between midfield and strikers went up a notch. He is capable of reading the game and playing one touch football with accuracy. To maintain the momentum of those first 20 mins against Rovers we need a similar player, with control and vision. Do we really have one in the squad or peripherals... I'm not sure, but I really hope so. Fingers crossed.

i agree. loyal and hard working though CMS is, i am increasingly worried about his basic skill level. against Hull the ball came to him several times, and like a schoolboy he simply couldnt control it. two or three times this led to Hull getting the ball back and racing back to our end with dangerous chances in during their threatening second half spell - so from brighton attack to hull missed chance.

if you were able to take away the £3m price tag in your mind, wd you have field him ahead of poor Hoskins or others? i horribly suspect that CMS wd simply be a regular on the bench to cover injury.

dont get me wrong - you could not fault him for effort and commitment. however he is not the player around which the team is or can be built round, as indicated when he was purchased as our most expensive player ever.

Brighton Barca wrote:

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Most of you know that I have called for Will Hoskins to be given the chance he deserves for quite a time and this injury is a very cruel blow for both him and the club. It surely didn't go unnoticed that during his last 2 appearances (Newcastle and, in particlar, BRovers) the speed of interplay between midfield and strikers went up a notch. He is capable of reading the game and playing one touch football with accuracy. To maintain the momentum of those first 20 mins against Rovers we need a similar player, with control and vision. Do we really have one in the squad or peripherals... I'm not sure, but I really hope so. Fingers crossed.

i agree. loyal and hard working though CMS is, i am increasingly worried about his basic skill level. against Hull the ball came to him several times, and like a schoolboy he simply couldnt control it. two or three times this led to Hull getting the ball back and racing back to our end with dangerous chances in during their threatening second half spell - so from brighton attack to hull missed chance.

if you were able to take away the £3m price tag in your mind, wd you have field him ahead of poor Hoskins or others? i horribly suspect that CMS wd simply be a regular on the bench to cover injury.

dont get me wrong - you could not fault him for effort and commitment. however he is not the player around which the team is or can be built round, as indicated when he was purchased as our most expensive player ever.

ballantrrae wrote:

bruce beckett wrote:
Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years?

My shortlist would be:

Bobby Zamora
Mark Lawrenson
Brian Horton
Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to
Liverpool)
Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)

Bobby Zamora equal first choice(bought for £100,000 I think and sold for a reported £1.5 Million) with Mark Lawrenson second (bought for £112,500 and sold for around £950,000 I believe).
Both outstanding players who would get into my all time Seagulls team - I started watching the Albion in 1958.
Difficult to choose between them. Zamoras goals were invaluable but Lawrenson played at a higher level for us and had a more illustrious career after he left.
Might I add good club servants like Kit Napier and Gary Nelson to your list. Danny Wilson also comes to mnd.

ballantrrae wrote:

bruce beckett wrote:
Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years?

My shortlist would be:

Bobby Zamora
Mark Lawrenson
Brian Horton
Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to
Liverpool)
Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)

Bobby Zamora equal first choice(bought for £100,000 I think and sold for a reported £1.5 Million) with Mark Lawrenson second (bought for £112,500 and sold for around £950,000 I believe).
Both outstanding players who would get into my all time Seagulls team - I started watching the Albion in 1958.
Difficult to choose between them. Zamoras goals were invaluable but Lawrenson played at a higher level for us and had a more illustrious career after he left.
Might I add good club servants like Kit Napier and Gary Nelson to your list. Danny Wilson also comes to mnd.

mark by the sea wrote:

Hovite wrote:

heathgate wrote:
Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.

Totally agree

Sorry but what has Toby done to get a chance? We are after a play off this season, that surely has to be our aim with 45 points to play for, sadly Kevin Phillips is at palace, .. I would go for experienced loan,

Stanley15 wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:

bruce beckett wrote:
Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years?

My shortlist would be:

Bobby Zamora
Mark Lawrenson
Brian Horton
Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to
Liverpool)
Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)

Bobby Zamora equal first choice(bought for £100,000 I think and sold for a reported £1.5 Million) with Mark Lawrenson second (bought for £112,500 and sold for around £950,000 I believe).
Both outstanding players who would get into my all time Seagulls team - I started watching the Albion in 1958.
Difficult to choose between them. Zamoras goals were invaluable but Lawrenson played at a higher level for us and had a more illustrious career after he left.
Might I add good club servants like Kit Napier and Gary Nelson to your list. Danny Wilson also comes to mnd.

It surely has to be Peter Ward £4k from Burton Albion

Freeloaders wrote:

VileFreeloader wrote:
Freeloaders says...
12:11pm Wed 13 Feb 13
"LOL,odd that he told Gus it was his knee when he came off lol."

Hmm, not very odd at all then, was it? It's almost like Hoskins could tell which part of his leg was hurting! Your superior knowledge failing you yet again. LOL!

You stupid person lol.It kind of proved my point.I saw it and was 100% spot yet again.It was the other poster that got it wrong.Anyway the fact you go back to old posts of mine on other storys just proves you only have me to think about Hovite lol.Know go and have a long wait at the bandstand.

Freeloaders wrote:

fratsomrover wrote:
Desperately sorry for Will. Just hope he makes a full recovery and will be back for the start of next season. It's a cruel game sometimes and I wish him the best of luck.

Please when will some of you people wake up.Did Palace ask to take Hoskins in the window "NO".Did any club ask to take Hoskins"NO."Don't you people ever ask why?His had this problem at Watford,Notts forest after just 4 games,Bristol Rovers,and even after just a few games on loan at Sheff U.Did they want him back "NO."Just go and ask some of the staff that knew him at Watford if you don't believe me.What makes you people think things will change next time if we give it yet another contract.The guy knew he was out at the end of the season.Now yet again his 100% sure of one more year.Do you people really put the years of problems with ths guy down to just bad luck lol.How comes it don't happen to the other players.Please read Gus words above."He was deserving to play because the way he was training."Thats Gus saying i don't play him most weeks even when fit because his not working hard in training.

Stanley15 wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:

bruce beckett wrote:
Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years?

My shortlist would be:

Bobby Zamora
Mark Lawrenson
Brian Horton
Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to
Liverpool)
Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)

Bobby Zamora equal first choice(bought for £100,000 I think and sold for a reported £1.5 Million) with Mark Lawrenson second (bought for £112,500 and sold for around £950,000 I believe).
Both outstanding players who would get into my all time Seagulls team - I started watching the Albion in 1958.
Difficult to choose between them. Zamoras goals were invaluable but Lawrenson played at a higher level for us and had a more illustrious career after he left.
Might I add good club servants like Kit Napier and Gary Nelson to your list. Danny Wilson also comes to mnd.

It surely has to be Peter Ward £4k from Burton Albion