Albion striker ruled out for rest of the season

The Argus: Will Hoskins is taken away on a stretcher after injuring his knee against Blackburn Will Hoskins is taken away on a stretcher after injuring his knee against Blackburn

Albion could enter the loan market for a striker after discovering Will Hoskin will be ruled out for the rest of the season.

Hoskins was carried off before half-time in the 1-1 draw with Blackburn Rovers on Tuesday with scans confirming he had suffered knee ligament damage.

The former Watford forward will have surgery to repair the damage and manager Gus Poyet admits he may have to consider bringing in a replacement on loan.

Albion’s striking options are further limited for the trip to Cardiff on Tuesday with Ashley Barnes serving the last of his three-game ban.

Poyet said: “It is really bad luck for Will. He was deserving to play because of the way he was training and it just shows what a crazy game football is. He gets the chance to play and he gets injured.

“It will depend on many things whether we sign anyone. Ashley will be back after the next game and we have Leo (Ulloa), Macca (Craig Mackail-Smith) and Vicente so we’ll see.”

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9:12am Thu 14 Feb 13

jc897 says...

Is his contract up at the end of the season too? This can't help his chances of a renewal...
Is his contract up at the end of the season too? This can't help his chances of a renewal... jc897

9:22am Thu 14 Feb 13

seagullsays says...

What a shame for WH. Does seem prone to injury. Hope he makes a full recovery and is back playing next season. Not sure whether it'll be with us though, as I think his contract may be up.

Interesting how GP lists Vicente in his striker options. I think he's sensational in the attacking midfielder role, and would prefer to see him left there. Moving him further forward may detract from the overall impact he has, as he'd be less involved in general build up play.
What a shame for WH. Does seem prone to injury. Hope he makes a full recovery and is back playing next season. Not sure whether it'll be with us though, as I think his contract may be up. Interesting how GP lists Vicente in his striker options. I think he's sensational in the attacking midfielder role, and would prefer to see him left there. Moving him further forward may detract from the overall impact he has, as he'd be less involved in general build up play. seagullsays

9:30am Thu 14 Feb 13

Clean Sheet says...

seagullsays wrote:
What a shame for WH. Does seem prone to injury. Hope he makes a full recovery and is back playing next season. Not sure whether it'll be with us though, as I think his contract may be up. Interesting how GP lists Vicente in his striker options. I think he's sensational in the attacking midfielder role, and would prefer to see him left there. Moving him further forward may detract from the overall impact he has, as he'd be less involved in general build up play.
My reading is that GP is saying there are options in the current squad, with forward playing midfielders. You might also include Buckers and KLL.
[quote][p][bold]seagullsays[/bold] wrote: What a shame for WH. Does seem prone to injury. Hope he makes a full recovery and is back playing next season. Not sure whether it'll be with us though, as I think his contract may be up. Interesting how GP lists Vicente in his striker options. I think he's sensational in the attacking midfielder role, and would prefer to see him left there. Moving him further forward may detract from the overall impact he has, as he'd be less involved in general build up play.[/p][/quote]My reading is that GP is saying there are options in the current squad, with forward playing midfielders. You might also include Buckers and KLL. Clean Sheet

9:31am Thu 14 Feb 13

heathgate says...

Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.
Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself. heathgate

9:31am Thu 14 Feb 13

Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit says...

What about young Toby in the DS? How much more 'developing' does he need?

But yes, terrible luck for poor Hoskins.
What about young Toby in the DS? How much more 'developing' does he need? But yes, terrible luck for poor Hoskins. Jimmy Stewart's Imaginary Rabbit

9:33am Thu 14 Feb 13

VileFreeloader says...

Freeloaders says...
12:11pm Wed 13 Feb 13
"LOL,odd that he told Gus it was his knee when he came off lol."

Hmm, not very odd at all then, was it? It's almost like Hoskins could tell which part of his leg was hurting! Your superior knowledge failing you yet again. LOL!
Freeloaders says... 12:11pm Wed 13 Feb 13 "LOL,odd that he told Gus it was his knee when he came off lol." Hmm, not very odd at all then, was it? It's almost like Hoskins could tell which part of his leg was hurting! Your superior knowledge failing you yet again. LOL! VileFreeloader

9:45am Thu 14 Feb 13

Hovite says...

heathgate wrote:
Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.
Totally agree
[quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Hovite

10:04am Thu 14 Feb 13

mark by the sea says...

Hovite wrote:
heathgate wrote:
Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.
Totally agree
Sorry but what has Toby done to get a chance? We are after a play off this season, that surely has to be our aim with 45 points to play for, sadly Kevin Phillips is at palace, .. I would go for experienced loan,
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.[/p][/quote]Totally agree[/p][/quote]Sorry but what has Toby done to get a chance? We are after a play off this season, that surely has to be our aim with 45 points to play for, sadly Kevin Phillips is at palace, .. I would go for experienced loan, mark by the sea

10:09am Thu 14 Feb 13

BobGear says...

Dobbie could do a job.....


...oh
Dobbie could do a job..... ...oh BobGear

10:12am Thu 14 Feb 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Hovite wrote:
heathgate wrote:
Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.
Totally agree
Sorry but what has Toby done to get a chance? We are after a play off this season, that surely has to be our aim with 45 points to play for, sadly Kevin Phillips is at palace, .. I would go for experienced loan,
I'm with MBTS on this one - Toby hasn't been anywhere near the squad for ages, so one must assume he's not considered up to it just yet. Not sure who could come in and make much of a difference - not keen on Owen purely because he won't be fit enough to ever start a game. Oh, and because he has sai on numerous occasions he has no interest at all in playing below the Prem.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.[/p][/quote]Totally agree[/p][/quote]Sorry but what has Toby done to get a chance? We are after a play off this season, that surely has to be our aim with 45 points to play for, sadly Kevin Phillips is at palace, .. I would go for experienced loan,[/p][/quote]I'm with MBTS on this one - Toby hasn't been anywhere near the squad for ages, so one must assume he's not considered up to it just yet. Not sure who could come in and make much of a difference - not keen on Owen purely because he won't be fit enough to ever start a game. Oh, and because he has sai on numerous occasions he has no interest at all in playing below the Prem. Old Scrote of the Amex

10:15am Thu 14 Feb 13

pjwilk says...

Seems like another Michael Owen,2 games a season if your lucky.
Seems like another Michael Owen,2 games a season if your lucky. pjwilk

10:15am Thu 14 Feb 13

Jonathan Mouette says...

Most of you know that I have called for Will Hoskins to be given the chance he deserves for quite a time and this injury is a very cruel blow for both him and the club. It surely didn't go unnoticed that during his last 2 appearances (Newcastle and, in particlar, BRovers) the speed of interplay between midfield and strikers went up a notch. He is capable of reading the game and playing one touch football with accuracy. To maintain the momentum of those first 20 mins against Rovers we need a similar player, with control and vision. Do we really have one in the squad or peripherals... I'm not sure, but I really hope so. Fingers crossed.
Most of you know that I have called for Will Hoskins to be given the chance he deserves for quite a time and this injury is a very cruel blow for both him and the club. It surely didn't go unnoticed that during his last 2 appearances (Newcastle and, in particlar, BRovers) the speed of interplay between midfield and strikers went up a notch. He is capable of reading the game and playing one touch football with accuracy. To maintain the momentum of those first 20 mins against Rovers we need a similar player, with control and vision. Do we really have one in the squad or peripherals... I'm not sure, but I really hope so. Fingers crossed. Jonathan Mouette

10:16am Thu 14 Feb 13

Hovite says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Hovite wrote:
heathgate wrote:
Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.
Totally agree
Sorry but what has Toby done to get a chance? We are after a play off this season, that surely has to be our aim with 45 points to play for, sadly Kevin Phillips is at palace, .. I would go for experienced loan,
We signed him until 2015, he obviously deserved that. He has a good touch and he is strong.
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.[/p][/quote]Totally agree[/p][/quote]Sorry but what has Toby done to get a chance? We are after a play off this season, that surely has to be our aim with 45 points to play for, sadly Kevin Phillips is at palace, .. I would go for experienced loan,[/p][/quote]We signed him until 2015, he obviously deserved that. He has a good touch and he is strong. Hovite

10:16am Thu 14 Feb 13

phumps says...

Odemwingie would be funny to hack holloway off
Odemwingie would be funny to hack holloway off phumps

10:22am Thu 14 Feb 13

WestStander17 says...

VileFreeloader wrote:
Freeloaders says... 12:11pm Wed 13 Feb 13 "LOL,odd that he told Gus it was his knee when he came off lol." Hmm, not very odd at all then, was it? It's almost like Hoskins could tell which part of his leg was hurting! Your superior knowledge failing you yet again. LOL!
I often have a differing opinion to Freeloader but, in this instance, the comment you quote i believe was him, albeit sarcastically, correcting someone that thought it was an ankle injury.

Anyway, terrible luck for Hoskins. Sounds like his training performance had got him into the side only to get injured. Difficult contract situation for him now.

As for a loan in. Not sure we need one. I agree that although Vicente is easily good enough to play striker, it doesn't use him to his full potential. But, we have CMS, Ulloa and Barnes all playing for what is usually one position. Of course, if an outstanding loan opportunity came up, that might change things but can't see that happening.
[quote][p][bold]VileFreeloader[/bold] wrote: Freeloaders says... 12:11pm Wed 13 Feb 13 "LOL,odd that he told Gus it was his knee when he came off lol." Hmm, not very odd at all then, was it? It's almost like Hoskins could tell which part of his leg was hurting! Your superior knowledge failing you yet again. LOL![/p][/quote]I often have a differing opinion to Freeloader but, in this instance, the comment you quote i believe was him, albeit sarcastically, correcting someone that thought it was an ankle injury. Anyway, terrible luck for Hoskins. Sounds like his training performance had got him into the side only to get injured. Difficult contract situation for him now. As for a loan in. Not sure we need one. I agree that although Vicente is easily good enough to play striker, it doesn't use him to his full potential. But, we have CMS, Ulloa and Barnes all playing for what is usually one position. Of course, if an outstanding loan opportunity came up, that might change things but can't see that happening. WestStander17

10:27am Thu 14 Feb 13

Claude Back says...

heathgate wrote:
Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.
He won't make it in this Championship in my opinion. From what I've seen I cannot agree he has much to offer by way of getting us out of this Division and if he had Gus would have been putting him on the bench and not thinking about loans.
[quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.[/p][/quote]He won't make it in this Championship in my opinion. From what I've seen I cannot agree he has much to offer by way of getting us out of this Division and if he had Gus would have been putting him on the bench and not thinking about loans. Claude Back

10:39am Thu 14 Feb 13

Yogi says...

Shame this for Will.

What happened with regard to Gus's statement that he was going to give CMS and Ulloa a chance to persevere with their partnership???

If it is to be a loan then let's get someone in who can "win us a game"
Shame this for Will. What happened with regard to Gus's statement that he was going to give CMS and Ulloa a chance to persevere with their partnership??? If it is to be a loan then let's get someone in who can "win us a game" Yogi

10:48am Thu 14 Feb 13

Grendel says...

Yogi wrote:
Shame this for Will.

What happened with regard to Gus's statement that he was going to give CMS and Ulloa a chance to persevere with their partnership???

If it is to be a loan then let's get someone in who can "win us a game"
Probably CMS's poor performance against Hull.
[quote][p][bold]Yogi[/bold] wrote: Shame this for Will. What happened with regard to Gus's statement that he was going to give CMS and Ulloa a chance to persevere with their partnership??? If it is to be a loan then let's get someone in who can "win us a game"[/p][/quote]Probably CMS's poor performance against Hull. Grendel

10:50am Thu 14 Feb 13

graham w says...

best of luck to will.. and i hope he recovers from op ok.. ..and i notice the headline about the coca cola kid kzm.. what a nasty piece of work. i was right near to where he was making the jestures..hope he gets censured..
best of luck to will.. and i hope he recovers from op ok.. ..and i notice the headline about the coca cola kid kzm.. what a nasty piece of work. i was right near to where he was making the jestures..hope he gets censured.. graham w

10:57am Thu 14 Feb 13

Dr Baldhead says...

It's the business end of the season and like it or not we're playing catch up. I thought there was a time earlier in the season when we weren't scoring many goals to see if Toby could do a job, but I think that time (and probably his) has passed. I agree with those saying a back up loanee may be in order.

Ironically I wonder if long term this might keep Will with Albion for longer than expected. Recovery from knee ligaments can be a lengthy process and whereas I thought another club would snap WH up on a free in the summer, he may not be fit then. It may be that he recovers with Albion and is then given a short term deal to prove himself - that may actually be good for both club and player. Like many on here I don't think we've seen him at his best and I still think he can do a good job for us.
It's the business end of the season and like it or not we're playing catch up. I thought there was a time earlier in the season when we weren't scoring many goals to see if Toby could do a job, but I think that time (and probably his) has passed. I agree with those saying a back up loanee may be in order. Ironically I wonder if long term this might keep Will with Albion for longer than expected. Recovery from knee ligaments can be a lengthy process and whereas I thought another club would snap WH up on a free in the summer, he may not be fit then. It may be that he recovers with Albion and is then given a short term deal to prove himself - that may actually be good for both club and player. Like many on here I don't think we've seen him at his best and I still think he can do a good job for us. Dr Baldhead

11:09am Thu 14 Feb 13

Hector66 says...

i'm with those above who do not believe toby to be good enough.

gutted for hoskins and was really wanting to see what he could do with a run of three or four games in the side.
i'm with those above who do not believe toby to be good enough. gutted for hoskins and was really wanting to see what he could do with a run of three or four games in the side. Hector66

11:13am Thu 14 Feb 13

Gee Jay says...

I feel so sorry for Will Hoskins, it's as though he has never been able to get a run of games on the pitch to really show what he might be capable of.
There was high hopes for him at the start of the season, as it seemed as though all his injury problems were behind him.
I fear that he may never play for the Albion again, and maybe his luck will change as a result. It looks as though 'Hosko' and the Albion are not to be(but I hope I am wrong).
I feel so sorry for Will Hoskins, it's as though he has never been able to get a run of games on the pitch to really show what he might be capable of. There was high hopes for him at the start of the season, as it seemed as though all his injury problems were behind him. I fear that he may never play for the Albion again, and maybe his luck will change as a result. It looks as though 'Hosko' and the Albion are not to be(but I hope I am wrong). Gee Jay

11:43am Thu 14 Feb 13

jockithenoo says...

Grendel wrote:
Yogi wrote:
Shame this for Will.

What happened with regard to Gus's statement that he was going to give CMS and Ulloa a chance to persevere with their partnership???

If it is to be a loan then let's get someone in who can "win us a game"
Probably CMS's poor performance against Hull.
Spot on we played better Tuesday without Macca
We can only hope he finds a way to link up with a target man as it's not really his style of play art posh he always ran on to a ball from the back let's see
UTA
[quote][p][bold]Grendel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yogi[/bold] wrote: Shame this for Will. What happened with regard to Gus's statement that he was going to give CMS and Ulloa a chance to persevere with their partnership??? If it is to be a loan then let's get someone in who can "win us a game"[/p][/quote]Probably CMS's poor performance against Hull.[/p][/quote]Spot on we played better Tuesday without Macca We can only hope he finds a way to link up with a target man as it's not really his style of play art posh he always ran on to a ball from the back let's see UTA jockithenoo

12:15pm Thu 14 Feb 13

mitchellc123 says...

I don't know if you agree with me and I know this is a long shot but i feel that jake Forster caskey should get his run and why not up front because last time he played in the squad he scored am I not right I don't know I just think its about time he had his turn again.
I don't know if you agree with me and I know this is a long shot but i feel that jake Forster caskey should get his run and why not up front because last time he played in the squad he scored am I not right I don't know I just think its about time he had his turn again. mitchellc123

12:24pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

mitchellc123 wrote:
I don't know if you agree with me and I know this is a long shot but i feel that jake Forster caskey should get his run and why not up front because last time he played in the squad he scored am I not right I don't know I just think its about time he had his turn again.
Because he's a central midfielder and we are overrun with those. He is in no way a striker.
[quote][p][bold]mitchellc123[/bold] wrote: I don't know if you agree with me and I know this is a long shot but i feel that jake Forster caskey should get his run and why not up front because last time he played in the squad he scored am I not right I don't know I just think its about time he had his turn again.[/p][/quote]Because he's a central midfielder and we are overrun with those. He is in no way a striker. Old Scrote of the Amex

12:26pm Thu 14 Feb 13

mitchellc123 says...

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
mitchellc123 wrote:
I don't know if you agree with me and I know this is a long shot but i feel that jake Forster caskey should get his run and why not up front because last time he played in the squad he scored am I not right I don't know I just think its about time he had his turn again.
Because he's a central midfielder and we are overrun with those. He is in no way a striker.
Yes but yet heis still young so why not let him try its just purely my opinion
[quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mitchellc123[/bold] wrote: I don't know if you agree with me and I know this is a long shot but i feel that jake Forster caskey should get his run and why not up front because last time he played in the squad he scored am I not right I don't know I just think its about time he had his turn again.[/p][/quote]Because he's a central midfielder and we are overrun with those. He is in no way a striker.[/p][/quote]Yes but yet heis still young so why not let him try its just purely my opinion mitchellc123

12:29pm Thu 14 Feb 13

SiWilki says...

Think we should get Dobbie back, mainly because it will annoy Palace and put them at a disadvantage going into last months of campaign, but surely the easiest way to get a back up striker in
Think we should get Dobbie back, mainly because it will annoy Palace and put them at a disadvantage going into last months of campaign, but surely the easiest way to get a back up striker in SiWilki

12:58pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

mitchellc123 wrote:
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
mitchellc123 wrote:
I don't know if you agree with me and I know this is a long shot but i feel that jake Forster caskey should get his run and why not up front because last time he played in the squad he scored am I not right I don't know I just think its about time he had his turn again.
Because he's a central midfielder and we are overrun with those. He is in no way a striker.
Yes but yet heis still young so why not let him try its just purely my opinion
Because he's a central midfielder. What can he possibly offer up front that Ulloa, CMS, Vicente and - when he's back - Barnes can't? Being young isn't much of a reason to 'let him try'.
[quote][p][bold]mitchellc123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mitchellc123[/bold] wrote: I don't know if you agree with me and I know this is a long shot but i feel that jake Forster caskey should get his run and why not up front because last time he played in the squad he scored am I not right I don't know I just think its about time he had his turn again.[/p][/quote]Because he's a central midfielder and we are overrun with those. He is in no way a striker.[/p][/quote]Yes but yet heis still young so why not let him try its just purely my opinion[/p][/quote]Because he's a central midfielder. What can he possibly offer up front that Ulloa, CMS, Vicente and - when he's back - Barnes can't? Being young isn't much of a reason to 'let him try'. Old Scrote of the Amex

1:00pm Thu 14 Feb 13

VegasSeagull says...

I am not sure how you can borrow a striker and expect him to score our much needed goals unless he comes from the prem division, and that will cost some decent money in wages, do we have the cash?

There is a young lad at Liverpool, Krisztian Adorjan, he is not yet a first team player but one that probably will be in the near future.
As cover on the bench for our strikers he might do a good job and might also be good enough to start.
Peanuts in wages I would have thought.
I am not sure how you can borrow a striker and expect him to score our much needed goals unless he comes from the prem division, and that will cost some decent money in wages, do we have the cash? There is a young lad at Liverpool, Krisztian Adorjan, he is not yet a first team player but one that probably will be in the near future. As cover on the bench for our strikers he might do a good job and might also be good enough to start. Peanuts in wages I would have thought. VegasSeagull

3:10pm Thu 14 Feb 13

bruce beckett says...

Don't think getting Dobbie back is an option as I believe he went to Palace on a loan with a view to permanent signing. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. We could certainly use him now.

Barnes will be back from his three-match ban after the Cardiff game and I can't see Gus fielding too attacking a lineup there anyway.

Very sorry for Hoskins. Shame that unlike another striker signed from Bristol Rovers, his time with us has been blighted by bad luck.
Don't think getting Dobbie back is an option as I believe he went to Palace on a loan with a view to permanent signing. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong. We could certainly use him now. Barnes will be back from his three-match ban after the Cardiff game and I can't see Gus fielding too attacking a lineup there anyway. Very sorry for Hoskins. Shame that unlike another striker signed from Bristol Rovers, his time with us has been blighted by bad luck. bruce beckett

3:26pm Thu 14 Feb 13

bruce beckett says...

Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years?

My shortlist would be:

Bobby Zamora
Mark Lawrenson
Brian Horton
Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to
Liverpool)
Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)
Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years? My shortlist would be: Bobby Zamora Mark Lawrenson Brian Horton Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to Liverpool) Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply) bruce beckett

3:40pm Thu 14 Feb 13

dave from bexill says...

Terribly bad luck for WH, just as Gus seemed to be trusting him in the team again. It never rains but..........
Terribly bad luck for WH, just as Gus seemed to be trusting him in the team again. It never rains but.......... dave from bexill

3:55pm Thu 14 Feb 13

fratsomrover says...

Desperately sorry for Will. Just hope he makes a full recovery and will be back for the start of next season. It's a cruel game sometimes and I wish him the best of luck.
Desperately sorry for Will. Just hope he makes a full recovery and will be back for the start of next season. It's a cruel game sometimes and I wish him the best of luck. fratsomrover

4:15pm Thu 14 Feb 13

ballantrrae says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Most of you know that I have called for Will Hoskins to be given the chance he deserves for quite a time and this injury is a very cruel blow for both him and the club. It surely didn't go unnoticed that during his last 2 appearances (Newcastle and, in particlar, BRovers) the speed of interplay between midfield and strikers went up a notch. He is capable of reading the game and playing one touch football with accuracy. To maintain the momentum of those first 20 mins against Rovers we need a similar player, with control and vision. Do we really have one in the squad or peripherals... I'm not sure, but I really hope so. Fingers crossed.
Good post.
I agree especially with your comment re the link between the midfield and attack.
With Barnes still suspended for the Cardiff game I would expect Agdestein to be on the bench as the reserve striker for that match. The last time Toby played was against Barnsley when he came on for Noone. Poyet has generally played Agdestein on the left which is exactly where Hoskins was used on Tuesday.
There are a couple of other options. One of which would be to have Solly March on the bench (with CMS starting). A second would be for Orlandi to start in Hoskins place, leave CMS on the bench and add JFC the match squad.
I appreciate that a loan signing might be made before next Tuesday but I think Poyet will not make any rushed move given that Barnes will be available for the Burnley game.
Really feel for Hosko as he was beginning to show that he could be a handy member of the squad especially as his contract ends this summer. I wonder if Poyet will offer him another year ? I imagine that if we are still in the Championship that keeping Hoskins would be a more economic option than buying someone else.
Finally I wonder if GG will be in contention for the Cardiff game. If he is that might have an impact on the bench selection
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Most of you know that I have called for Will Hoskins to be given the chance he deserves for quite a time and this injury is a very cruel blow for both him and the club. It surely didn't go unnoticed that during his last 2 appearances (Newcastle and, in particlar, BRovers) the speed of interplay between midfield and strikers went up a notch. He is capable of reading the game and playing one touch football with accuracy. To maintain the momentum of those first 20 mins against Rovers we need a similar player, with control and vision. Do we really have one in the squad or peripherals... I'm not sure, but I really hope so. Fingers crossed.[/p][/quote]Good post. I agree especially with your comment re the link between the midfield and attack. With Barnes still suspended for the Cardiff game I would expect Agdestein to be on the bench as the reserve striker for that match. The last time Toby played was against Barnsley when he came on for Noone. Poyet has generally played Agdestein on the left which is exactly where Hoskins was used on Tuesday. There are a couple of other options. One of which would be to have Solly March on the bench (with CMS starting). A second would be for Orlandi to start in Hoskins place, leave CMS on the bench and add JFC the match squad. I appreciate that a loan signing might be made before next Tuesday but I think Poyet will not make any rushed move given that Barnes will be available for the Burnley game. Really feel for Hosko as he was beginning to show that he could be a handy member of the squad especially as his contract ends this summer. I wonder if Poyet will offer him another year ? I imagine that if we are still in the Championship that keeping Hoskins would be a more economic option than buying someone else. Finally I wonder if GG will be in contention for the Cardiff game. If he is that might have an impact on the bench selection ballantrrae

4:43pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Freeloaders says...

VileFreeloader wrote:
Freeloaders says...
12:11pm Wed 13 Feb 13
"LOL,odd that he told Gus it was his knee when he came off lol."

Hmm, not very odd at all then, was it? It's almost like Hoskins could tell which part of his leg was hurting! Your superior knowledge failing you yet again. LOL!
You stupid person lol.It kind of proved my point.I saw it and was 100% spot yet again.It was the other poster that got it wrong.Anyway the fact you go back to old posts of mine on other storys just proves you only have me to think about Hovite lol.Know go and have a long wait at the bandstand.
[quote][p][bold]VileFreeloader[/bold] wrote: Freeloaders says... 12:11pm Wed 13 Feb 13 "LOL,odd that he told Gus it was his knee when he came off lol." Hmm, not very odd at all then, was it? It's almost like Hoskins could tell which part of his leg was hurting! Your superior knowledge failing you yet again. LOL![/p][/quote]You stupid person lol.It kind of proved my point.I saw it and was 100% spot yet again.It was the other poster that got it wrong.Anyway the fact you go back to old posts of mine on other storys just proves you only have me to think about Hovite lol.Know go and have a long wait at the bandstand. Freeloaders

4:46pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Freeloaders says...

key pad playing up again.u know what i mean lol.Now go wait.
key pad playing up again.u know what i mean lol.Now go wait. Freeloaders

5:02pm Thu 14 Feb 13

ballantrrae says...

bruce beckett wrote:
Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years?

My shortlist would be:

Bobby Zamora
Mark Lawrenson
Brian Horton
Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to
Liverpool)
Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)
Bobby Zamora equal first choice(bought for £100,000 I think and sold for a reported £1.5 Million) with Mark Lawrenson second (bought for £112,500 and sold for around £950,000 I believe).
Both outstanding players who would get into my all time Seagulls team - I started watching the Albion in 1958.
Difficult to choose between them. Zamoras goals were invaluable but Lawrenson played at a higher level for us and had a more illustrious career after he left.
Might I add good club servants like Kit Napier and Gary Nelson to your list. Danny Wilson also comes to mnd.
[quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years? My shortlist would be: Bobby Zamora Mark Lawrenson Brian Horton Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to Liverpool) Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)[/p][/quote]Bobby Zamora equal first choice(bought for £100,000 I think and sold for a reported £1.5 Million) with Mark Lawrenson second (bought for £112,500 and sold for around £950,000 I believe). Both outstanding players who would get into my all time Seagulls team - I started watching the Albion in 1958. Difficult to choose between them. Zamoras goals were invaluable but Lawrenson played at a higher level for us and had a more illustrious career after he left. Might I add good club servants like Kit Napier and Gary Nelson to your list. Danny Wilson also comes to mnd. ballantrrae

5:07pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Freeloaders says...

fratsomrover wrote:
Desperately sorry for Will. Just hope he makes a full recovery and will be back for the start of next season. It's a cruel game sometimes and I wish him the best of luck.
Please when will some of you people wake up.Did Palace ask to take Hoskins in the window "NO".Did any club ask to take Hoskins"NO."Don't you people ever ask why?His had this problem at Watford,Notts forest after just 4 games,Bristol Rovers,and even after just a few games on loan at Sheff U.Did they want him back "NO."Just go and ask some of the staff that knew him at Watford if you don't believe me.What makes you people think things will change next time if we give it yet another contract.The guy knew he was out at the end of the season.Now yet again his 100% sure of one more year.Do you people really put the years of problems with ths guy down to just bad luck lol.How comes it don't happen to the other players.Please read Gus words above."He was deserving to play because the way he was training."Thats Gus saying i don't play him most weeks even when fit because his not working hard in training.
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Desperately sorry for Will. Just hope he makes a full recovery and will be back for the start of next season. It's a cruel game sometimes and I wish him the best of luck.[/p][/quote]Please when will some of you people wake up.Did Palace ask to take Hoskins in the window "NO".Did any club ask to take Hoskins"NO."Don't you people ever ask why?His had this problem at Watford,Notts forest after just 4 games,Bristol Rovers,and even after just a few games on loan at Sheff U.Did they want him back "NO."Just go and ask some of the staff that knew him at Watford if you don't believe me.What makes you people think things will change next time if we give it yet another contract.The guy knew he was out at the end of the season.Now yet again his 100% sure of one more year.Do you people really put the years of problems with ths guy down to just bad luck lol.How comes it don't happen to the other players.Please read Gus words above."He was deserving to play because the way he was training."Thats Gus saying i don't play him most weeks even when fit because his not working hard in training. Freeloaders

5:09pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Brighton Barca says...

Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Most of you know that I have called for Will Hoskins to be given the chance he deserves for quite a time and this injury is a very cruel blow for both him and the club. It surely didn't go unnoticed that during his last 2 appearances (Newcastle and, in particlar, BRovers) the speed of interplay between midfield and strikers went up a notch. He is capable of reading the game and playing one touch football with accuracy. To maintain the momentum of those first 20 mins against Rovers we need a similar player, with control and vision. Do we really have one in the squad or peripherals... I'm not sure, but I really hope so. Fingers crossed.
i agree. loyal and hard working though CMS is, i am increasingly worried about his basic skill level. against Hull the ball came to him several times, and like a schoolboy he simply couldnt control it. two or three times this led to Hull getting the ball back and racing back to our end with dangerous chances in during their threatening second half spell - so from brighton attack to hull missed chance.

if you were able to take away the £3m price tag in your mind, wd you have field him ahead of poor Hoskins or others? i horribly suspect that CMS wd simply be a regular on the bench to cover injury.

dont get me wrong - you could not fault him for effort and commitment. however he is not the player around which the team is or can be built round, as indicated when he was purchased as our most expensive player ever.
[quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Most of you know that I have called for Will Hoskins to be given the chance he deserves for quite a time and this injury is a very cruel blow for both him and the club. It surely didn't go unnoticed that during his last 2 appearances (Newcastle and, in particlar, BRovers) the speed of interplay between midfield and strikers went up a notch. He is capable of reading the game and playing one touch football with accuracy. To maintain the momentum of those first 20 mins against Rovers we need a similar player, with control and vision. Do we really have one in the squad or peripherals... I'm not sure, but I really hope so. Fingers crossed.[/p][/quote]i agree. loyal and hard working though CMS is, i am increasingly worried about his basic skill level. against Hull the ball came to him several times, and like a schoolboy he simply couldnt control it. two or three times this led to Hull getting the ball back and racing back to our end with dangerous chances in during their threatening second half spell - so from brighton attack to hull missed chance. if you were able to take away the £3m price tag in your mind, wd you have field him ahead of poor Hoskins or others? i horribly suspect that CMS wd simply be a regular on the bench to cover injury. dont get me wrong - you could not fault him for effort and commitment. however he is not the player around which the team is or can be built round, as indicated when he was purchased as our most expensive player ever. Brighton Barca

5:15pm Thu 14 Feb 13

ballantrrae says...

ballantrrae wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years?

My shortlist would be:

Bobby Zamora
Mark Lawrenson
Brian Horton
Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to
Liverpool)
Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)
Bobby Zamora equal first choice(bought for £100,000 I think and sold for a reported £1.5 Million) with Mark Lawrenson second (bought for £112,500 and sold for around £950,000 I believe).
Both outstanding players who would get into my all time Seagulls team - I started watching the Albion in 1958.
Difficult to choose between them. Zamoras goals were invaluable but Lawrenson played at a higher level for us and had a more illustrious career after he left.
Might I add good club servants like Kit Napier and Gary Nelson to your list. Danny Wilson also comes to mnd.
Bruce Beckett from a purely fiscal point of view Adam Virgo comes to mind. How we sold him for £1.5 Millon to Celtic I will never know. He cost nothing and scored that goal at Wembley.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years? My shortlist would be: Bobby Zamora Mark Lawrenson Brian Horton Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to Liverpool) Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)[/p][/quote]Bobby Zamora equal first choice(bought for £100,000 I think and sold for a reported £1.5 Million) with Mark Lawrenson second (bought for £112,500 and sold for around £950,000 I believe). Both outstanding players who would get into my all time Seagulls team - I started watching the Albion in 1958. Difficult to choose between them. Zamoras goals were invaluable but Lawrenson played at a higher level for us and had a more illustrious career after he left. Might I add good club servants like Kit Napier and Gary Nelson to your list. Danny Wilson also comes to mnd.[/p][/quote]Bruce Beckett from a purely fiscal point of view Adam Virgo comes to mind. How we sold him for £1.5 Millon to Celtic I will never know. He cost nothing and scored that goal at Wembley. ballantrrae

5:25pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Freeloaders says...

Brighton Barca wrote:
Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Most of you know that I have called for Will Hoskins to be given the chance he deserves for quite a time and this injury is a very cruel blow for both him and the club. It surely didn't go unnoticed that during his last 2 appearances (Newcastle and, in particlar, BRovers) the speed of interplay between midfield and strikers went up a notch. He is capable of reading the game and playing one touch football with accuracy. To maintain the momentum of those first 20 mins against Rovers we need a similar player, with control and vision. Do we really have one in the squad or peripherals... I'm not sure, but I really hope so. Fingers crossed.
i agree. loyal and hard working though CMS is, i am increasingly worried about his basic skill level. against Hull the ball came to him several times, and like a schoolboy he simply couldnt control it. two or three times this led to Hull getting the ball back and racing back to our end with dangerous chances in during their threatening second half spell - so from brighton attack to hull missed chance.

if you were able to take away the £3m price tag in your mind, wd you have field him ahead of poor Hoskins or others? i horribly suspect that CMS wd simply be a regular on the bench to cover injury.

dont get me wrong - you could not fault him for effort and commitment. however he is not the player around which the team is or can be built round, as indicated when he was purchased as our most expensive player ever.
So what reason do you give for Gus not playing Hoskins over all these weeks even when fit for once lol.Also ask yourself why not one other club wanted to take him on loan when they all knew he was not in our first team.With wages the guy has cost the club a good 1.5million already.Now some of you guys want to make the same mistake again.What did Gus say tuesday night as he came off."NOW WHAT IS IT"
[quote][p][bold]Brighton Barca[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Most of you know that I have called for Will Hoskins to be given the chance he deserves for quite a time and this injury is a very cruel blow for both him and the club. It surely didn't go unnoticed that during his last 2 appearances (Newcastle and, in particlar, BRovers) the speed of interplay between midfield and strikers went up a notch. He is capable of reading the game and playing one touch football with accuracy. To maintain the momentum of those first 20 mins against Rovers we need a similar player, with control and vision. Do we really have one in the squad or peripherals... I'm not sure, but I really hope so. Fingers crossed.[/p][/quote]i agree. loyal and hard working though CMS is, i am increasingly worried about his basic skill level. against Hull the ball came to him several times, and like a schoolboy he simply couldnt control it. two or three times this led to Hull getting the ball back and racing back to our end with dangerous chances in during their threatening second half spell - so from brighton attack to hull missed chance. if you were able to take away the £3m price tag in your mind, wd you have field him ahead of poor Hoskins or others? i horribly suspect that CMS wd simply be a regular on the bench to cover injury. dont get me wrong - you could not fault him for effort and commitment. however he is not the player around which the team is or can be built round, as indicated when he was purchased as our most expensive player ever.[/p][/quote]So what reason do you give for Gus not playing Hoskins over all these weeks even when fit for once lol.Also ask yourself why not one other club wanted to take him on loan when they all knew he was not in our first team.With wages the guy has cost the club a good 1.5million already.Now some of you guys want to make the same mistake again.What did Gus say tuesday night as he came off."NOW WHAT IS IT" Freeloaders

5:25pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Freeloaders says...

Brighton Barca wrote:
Jonathan Mouette wrote:
Most of you know that I have called for Will Hoskins to be given the chance he deserves for quite a time and this injury is a very cruel blow for both him and the club. It surely didn't go unnoticed that during his last 2 appearances (Newcastle and, in particlar, BRovers) the speed of interplay between midfield and strikers went up a notch. He is capable of reading the game and playing one touch football with accuracy. To maintain the momentum of those first 20 mins against Rovers we need a similar player, with control and vision. Do we really have one in the squad or peripherals... I'm not sure, but I really hope so. Fingers crossed.
i agree. loyal and hard working though CMS is, i am increasingly worried about his basic skill level. against Hull the ball came to him several times, and like a schoolboy he simply couldnt control it. two or three times this led to Hull getting the ball back and racing back to our end with dangerous chances in during their threatening second half spell - so from brighton attack to hull missed chance.

if you were able to take away the £3m price tag in your mind, wd you have field him ahead of poor Hoskins or others? i horribly suspect that CMS wd simply be a regular on the bench to cover injury.

dont get me wrong - you could not fault him for effort and commitment. however he is not the player around which the team is or can be built round, as indicated when he was purchased as our most expensive player ever.
So what reason do you give for Gus not playing Hoskins over all these weeks even when fit for once lol.Also ask yourself why not one other club wanted to take him on loan when they all knew he was not in our first team.With wages the guy has cost the club a good 1.5million already.Now some of you guys want to make the same mistake again.What did Gus say tuesday night as he came off."NOW WHAT IS IT"
[quote][p][bold]Brighton Barca[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonathan Mouette[/bold] wrote: Most of you know that I have called for Will Hoskins to be given the chance he deserves for quite a time and this injury is a very cruel blow for both him and the club. It surely didn't go unnoticed that during his last 2 appearances (Newcastle and, in particlar, BRovers) the speed of interplay between midfield and strikers went up a notch. He is capable of reading the game and playing one touch football with accuracy. To maintain the momentum of those first 20 mins against Rovers we need a similar player, with control and vision. Do we really have one in the squad or peripherals... I'm not sure, but I really hope so. Fingers crossed.[/p][/quote]i agree. loyal and hard working though CMS is, i am increasingly worried about his basic skill level. against Hull the ball came to him several times, and like a schoolboy he simply couldnt control it. two or three times this led to Hull getting the ball back and racing back to our end with dangerous chances in during their threatening second half spell - so from brighton attack to hull missed chance. if you were able to take away the £3m price tag in your mind, wd you have field him ahead of poor Hoskins or others? i horribly suspect that CMS wd simply be a regular on the bench to cover injury. dont get me wrong - you could not fault him for effort and commitment. however he is not the player around which the team is or can be built round, as indicated when he was purchased as our most expensive player ever.[/p][/quote]So what reason do you give for Gus not playing Hoskins over all these weeks even when fit for once lol.Also ask yourself why not one other club wanted to take him on loan when they all knew he was not in our first team.With wages the guy has cost the club a good 1.5million already.Now some of you guys want to make the same mistake again.What did Gus say tuesday night as he came off."NOW WHAT IS IT" Freeloaders

5:30pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Stanley15 says...

ballantrrae wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years?

My shortlist would be:

Bobby Zamora
Mark Lawrenson
Brian Horton
Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to
Liverpool)
Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)
Bobby Zamora equal first choice(bought for £100,000 I think and sold for a reported £1.5 Million) with Mark Lawrenson second (bought for £112,500 and sold for around £950,000 I believe).
Both outstanding players who would get into my all time Seagulls team - I started watching the Albion in 1958.
Difficult to choose between them. Zamoras goals were invaluable but Lawrenson played at a higher level for us and had a more illustrious career after he left.
Might I add good club servants like Kit Napier and Gary Nelson to your list. Danny Wilson also comes to mnd.
It surely has to be Peter Ward £4k from Burton Albion
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years? My shortlist would be: Bobby Zamora Mark Lawrenson Brian Horton Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to Liverpool) Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)[/p][/quote]Bobby Zamora equal first choice(bought for £100,000 I think and sold for a reported £1.5 Million) with Mark Lawrenson second (bought for £112,500 and sold for around £950,000 I believe). Both outstanding players who would get into my all time Seagulls team - I started watching the Albion in 1958. Difficult to choose between them. Zamoras goals were invaluable but Lawrenson played at a higher level for us and had a more illustrious career after he left. Might I add good club servants like Kit Napier and Gary Nelson to your list. Danny Wilson also comes to mnd.[/p][/quote]It surely has to be Peter Ward £4k from Burton Albion Stanley15

6:08pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Brighton&HoveAlbion says...

Huge shame for Hoskins, hope the surgery goes well.
Huge shame for Hoskins, hope the surgery goes well. Brighton&HoveAlbion

6:13pm Thu 14 Feb 13

bruce beckett says...

Danny Wilson. Good shout, Ballantrrae.

Forgot we signed Wardy from non-league football, Stanley. Yes, he could well be top of the list.

Virgo for 1.5 million must be one of the worst buys of all time, even though he will always be an Albion legend for that goal he scored against Swindon.
Danny Wilson. Good shout, Ballantrrae. Forgot we signed Wardy from non-league football, Stanley. Yes, he could well be top of the list. Virgo for 1.5 million must be one of the worst buys of all time, even though he will always be an Albion legend for that goal he scored against Swindon. bruce beckett

6:44pm Thu 14 Feb 13

wiseman of hove says...

ballantrrae wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years?

My shortlist would be:

Bobby Zamora
Mark Lawrenson
Brian Horton
Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to
Liverpool)
Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)
Bobby Zamora equal first choice(bought for £100,000 I think and sold for a reported £1.5 Million) with Mark Lawrenson second (bought for £112,500 and sold for around £950,000 I believe).
Both outstanding players who would get into my all time Seagulls team - I started watching the Albion in 1958.
Difficult to choose between them. Zamoras goals were invaluable but Lawrenson played at a higher level for us and had a more illustrious career after he left.
Might I add good club servants like Kit Napier and Gary Nelson to your list. Danny Wilson also comes to mnd.
Good selections by both. I would suggest Mark Lawrenson. The money plus Case was quite a deal. For me, Lawrenson was the best player I have ever seen in an Albion shirt. The Dean Saunders deal must have been one of the worst. Exceptional player (possibly picked up by Cattlin on a free?) and then sold for peanuts. If I can stretch back over forty years, Im sure added to your lists would have been Barry Rees. Signed by Archie Macauley from Everton reserves circa 1964 for about £10,000 and played a dozen or so brilliant games. Died in a crash going back to Wales for a weekend after a Friday night game. Fantastic player who would have become a great - I'm sure some other posters will recall him.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years? My shortlist would be: Bobby Zamora Mark Lawrenson Brian Horton Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to Liverpool) Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)[/p][/quote]Bobby Zamora equal first choice(bought for £100,000 I think and sold for a reported £1.5 Million) with Mark Lawrenson second (bought for £112,500 and sold for around £950,000 I believe). Both outstanding players who would get into my all time Seagulls team - I started watching the Albion in 1958. Difficult to choose between them. Zamoras goals were invaluable but Lawrenson played at a higher level for us and had a more illustrious career after he left. Might I add good club servants like Kit Napier and Gary Nelson to your list. Danny Wilson also comes to mnd.[/p][/quote]Good selections by both. I would suggest Mark Lawrenson. The money plus Case was quite a deal. For me, Lawrenson was the best player I have ever seen in an Albion shirt. The Dean Saunders deal must have been one of the worst. Exceptional player (possibly picked up by Cattlin on a free?) and then sold for peanuts. If I can stretch back over forty years, Im sure added to your lists would have been Barry Rees. Signed by Archie Macauley from Everton reserves circa 1964 for about £10,000 and played a dozen or so brilliant games. Died in a crash going back to Wales for a weekend after a Friday night game. Fantastic player who would have become a great - I'm sure some other posters will recall him. wiseman of hove

8:17pm Thu 14 Feb 13

tonytowner1 says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Hovite wrote:
heathgate wrote:
Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.
Totally agree
Sorry but what has Toby done to get a chance? We are after a play off this season, that surely has to be our aim with 45 points to play for, sadly Kevin Phillips is at palace, .. I would go for experienced loan,
Absolutely agree!!
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]heathgate[/bold] wrote: Lets get Toby on the bench,... he must surely deserve a chance to prove himself.[/p][/quote]Totally agree[/p][/quote]Sorry but what has Toby done to get a chance? We are after a play off this season, that surely has to be our aim with 45 points to play for, sadly Kevin Phillips is at palace, .. I would go for experienced loan,[/p][/quote]Absolutely agree!! tonytowner1

8:21pm Thu 14 Feb 13

tonytowner1 says...

Stanley15 wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years?

My shortlist would be:

Bobby Zamora
Mark Lawrenson
Brian Horton
Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to
Liverpool)
Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)
Bobby Zamora equal first choice(bought for £100,000 I think and sold for a reported £1.5 Million) with Mark Lawrenson second (bought for £112,500 and sold for around £950,000 I believe).
Both outstanding players who would get into my all time Seagulls team - I started watching the Albion in 1958.
Difficult to choose between them. Zamoras goals were invaluable but Lawrenson played at a higher level for us and had a more illustrious career after he left.
Might I add good club servants like Kit Napier and Gary Nelson to your list. Danny Wilson also comes to mnd.
It surely has to be Peter Ward £4k from Burton Albion
Always Wardy

If Ulloa gets injured we still could do with a great header of the ball with height, so that rules out Messi!!

Another Spanish speaker would always be good of course!!
[quote][p][bold]Stanley15[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years? My shortlist would be: Bobby Zamora Mark Lawrenson Brian Horton Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to Liverpool) Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)[/p][/quote]Bobby Zamora equal first choice(bought for £100,000 I think and sold for a reported £1.5 Million) with Mark Lawrenson second (bought for £112,500 and sold for around £950,000 I believe). Both outstanding players who would get into my all time Seagulls team - I started watching the Albion in 1958. Difficult to choose between them. Zamoras goals were invaluable but Lawrenson played at a higher level for us and had a more illustrious career after he left. Might I add good club servants like Kit Napier and Gary Nelson to your list. Danny Wilson also comes to mnd.[/p][/quote]It surely has to be Peter Ward £4k from Burton Albion[/p][/quote]Always Wardy If Ulloa gets injured we still could do with a great header of the ball with height, so that rules out Messi!! Another Spanish speaker would always be good of course!! tonytowner1

11:38pm Thu 14 Feb 13

VileFreeloader says...

Freeloaders wrote:
VileFreeloader wrote:
Freeloaders says...
12:11pm Wed 13 Feb 13
"LOL,odd that he told Gus it was his knee when he came off lol."

Hmm, not very odd at all then, was it? It's almost like Hoskins could tell which part of his leg was hurting! Your superior knowledge failing you yet again. LOL!
You stupid person lol.It kind of proved my point.I saw it and was 100% spot yet again.It was the other poster that got it wrong.Anyway the fact you go back to old posts of mine on other storys just proves you only have me to think about Hovite lol.Know go and have a long wait at the bandstand.
Why do you persist with this idea that I'm Hovite? I swear on my life I am not. Is it that you can't believe there is more than one person on this site that thinks you're a muppet?
[quote][p][bold]Freeloaders[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VileFreeloader[/bold] wrote: Freeloaders says... 12:11pm Wed 13 Feb 13 "LOL,odd that he told Gus it was his knee when he came off lol." Hmm, not very odd at all then, was it? It's almost like Hoskins could tell which part of his leg was hurting! Your superior knowledge failing you yet again. LOL![/p][/quote]You stupid person lol.It kind of proved my point.I saw it and was 100% spot yet again.It was the other poster that got it wrong.Anyway the fact you go back to old posts of mine on other storys just proves you only have me to think about Hovite lol.Know go and have a long wait at the bandstand.[/p][/quote]Why do you persist with this idea that I'm Hovite? I swear on my life I am not. Is it that you can't believe there is more than one person on this site that thinks you're a muppet? VileFreeloader

11:41pm Thu 14 Feb 13

VileFreeloader says...

Freeloaders wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
Desperately sorry for Will. Just hope he makes a full recovery and will be back for the start of next season. It's a cruel game sometimes and I wish him the best of luck.
Please when will some of you people wake up.Did Palace ask to take Hoskins in the window "NO".Did any club ask to take Hoskins"NO."Don't you people ever ask why?His had this problem at Watford,Notts forest after just 4 games,Bristol Rovers,and even after just a few games on loan at Sheff U.Did they want him back "NO."Just go and ask some of the staff that knew him at Watford if you don't believe me.What makes you people think things will change next time if we give it yet another contract.The guy knew he was out at the end of the season.Now yet again his 100% sure of one more year.Do you people really put the years of problems with ths guy down to just bad luck lol.How comes it don't happen to the other players.Please read Gus words above."He was deserving to play because the way he was training."Thats Gus saying i don't play him most weeks even when fit because his not working hard in training.
I'm calling you out on it - I think you're secretly in love with Hoskins and all teh other fringe players and this is just a MASSIVE case of denial. The guy is injury prone, yet you make it sound like it is all a ploy to get himself another contract. Imbecilic beyond belief.
[quote][p][bold]Freeloaders[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Desperately sorry for Will. Just hope he makes a full recovery and will be back for the start of next season. It's a cruel game sometimes and I wish him the best of luck.[/p][/quote]Please when will some of you people wake up.Did Palace ask to take Hoskins in the window "NO".Did any club ask to take Hoskins"NO."Don't you people ever ask why?His had this problem at Watford,Notts forest after just 4 games,Bristol Rovers,and even after just a few games on loan at Sheff U.Did they want him back "NO."Just go and ask some of the staff that knew him at Watford if you don't believe me.What makes you people think things will change next time if we give it yet another contract.The guy knew he was out at the end of the season.Now yet again his 100% sure of one more year.Do you people really put the years of problems with ths guy down to just bad luck lol.How comes it don't happen to the other players.Please read Gus words above."He was deserving to play because the way he was training."Thats Gus saying i don't play him most weeks even when fit because his not working hard in training.[/p][/quote]I'm calling you out on it - I think you're secretly in love with Hoskins and all teh other fringe players and this is just a MASSIVE case of denial. The guy is injury prone, yet you make it sound like it is all a ploy to get himself another contract. Imbecilic beyond belief. VileFreeloader

12:22am Fri 15 Feb 13

Baldseagull says...

Stanley15 wrote:
ballantrrae wrote:
bruce beckett wrote:
Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years?

My shortlist would be:

Bobby Zamora
Mark Lawrenson
Brian Horton
Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to
Liverpool)
Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)
Bobby Zamora equal first choice(bought for £100,000 I think and sold for a reported £1.5 Million) with Mark Lawrenson second (bought for £112,500 and sold for around £950,000 I believe).
Both outstanding players who would get into my all time Seagulls team - I started watching the Albion in 1958.
Difficult to choose between them. Zamoras goals were invaluable but Lawrenson played at a higher level for us and had a more illustrious career after he left.
Might I add good club servants like Kit Napier and Gary Nelson to your list. Danny Wilson also comes to mnd.
It surely has to be Peter Ward £4k from Burton Albion
Vicente at almost any price, but on a free has to be THE bargain "buy" of our entire history, if you are talking about the quality of the player.
Bridcutt on a free would have to be amongst the best also.
Of the players mentioned by others, if we could clone one and have him in the team now, I think Ward would get the vote, maybe Zamora
[quote][p][bold]Stanley15[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: Talking of Bobby Z, who do we think is the best value-for-money signing the club has made in the last 40 years? My shortlist would be: Bobby Zamora Mark Lawrenson Brian Horton Jimmy Case (who I believe came as part of the deal that took Lawro to Liverpool) Dean Saunders (who we let go far too cheaply)[/p][/quote]Bobby Zamora equal first choice(bought for £100,000 I think and sold for a reported £1.5 Million) with Mark Lawrenson second (bought for £112,500 and sold for around £950,000 I believe). Both outstanding players who would get into my all time Seagulls team - I started watching the Albion in 1958. Difficult to choose between them. Zamoras goals were invaluable but Lawrenson played at a higher level for us and had a more illustrious career after he left. Might I add good club servants like Kit Napier and Gary Nelson to your list. Danny Wilson also comes to mnd.[/p][/quote]It surely has to be Peter Ward £4k from Burton Albion[/p][/quote]Vicente at almost any price, but on a free has to be THE bargain "buy" of our entire history, if you are talking about the quality of the player. Bridcutt on a free would have to be amongst the best also. Of the players mentioned by others, if we could clone one and have him in the team now, I think Ward would get the vote, maybe Zamora Baldseagull

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