Albion win can be a launchpad (From The Argus)
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Albion win can be a launchpad
9:30am Wednesday 20th February 2013 in Sport By Andy Naylor
Leonardo Ulloa celebrates his goal last night
Charlie Oatway has urged Albion to build on a “fantastic” win at Championship leaders Cardiff when they return to The Amex.
Last night’s 2-0 win in Wales has lifted the Seagulls to within two points of the play-offs ahead of home games against Burnley on Saturday and Huddersfield a week later.
First team coach Oatway told The Argus: “It should give us a lift to crack on with the last dozen games or so we have got left, gain as many points as we can and see if it gets us in the shake-up at the end.
“We have got two home games now in the next couple of weeks so if we can get six points and see where it takes us then.”
Goals at the end of both halves by Andrea Orlandi and Leo Ulloa and an outstanding display by keeper Tomasz Kuszczak upset the table-toppers.
Oatway said: “It’s a fantatic result for us. Cardiff have been up there virtually from day one this season so for anyone to come here and get any points is a fantastic achievement.
“It takes some doing. We rode our luck at times and Tomasz made some good saves. We played some good football but we knew they were going to throw everything at us, especially when we went 1-0 up, but the boys were magnificent in the way they went about their business defensively.
“There are a lot of pats on the back because I think Cardiff are going to be untouchable. I don’t think they are going to be caught.”
Top scorer Craig Mackail-Smith missed the match with a knee injury. Dean Hammond also limped off in the second half with a knee problem, which gives Albion a headache in the defensive midfield role after Liam Bridcutt picked up his tenth booking, ruling him out of the next two games.
Captain Gordon Greer, sidelined again following a hamstring tear, is expected to be fit for Burnley’s visit and Ashley Barnes will be available after completing a three-match ban.
Comments(82)
Jonathan Mouette
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9:48am Wed 20 Feb 13
And now a repeat of the conversation which took place between my son and I as the game drew to a close last night...
Cripes, how did he miss that! £2M we paid and he can't score from there. How much time does he really need to settle in... Chris Wood took 30 minutes at Leicester to score 2 goals and he didn't cost that much. Bloody hell, this bloke runs round just like CMS and is about as reliable in front of goal.... I am really beginning to have doubts about him, it's very worrying... and God, he's scored... The man's a hero, another legend in the making. What a star. Forget everything I just said Nicky, this guy is absolute magic.
Funny old game innit !!!
pjwilk
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9:55am Wed 20 Feb 13
Clean Sheet
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9:55am Wed 20 Feb 13
Albion fan in London
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10:03am Wed 20 Feb 13
WoodingdeanDS
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10:13am Wed 20 Feb 13
Just need to show a bit of consistency now.
SMF20
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10:13am Wed 20 Feb 13
When you think that in the last 3 games we have not only beaten the teams sitting 1st and 2nd in the division but have also achieved this with them having the best away and best home records in the championship.
Add to this that we absolutely thumped a team from the premiership last year and who have just knocked Arsenal out of the cup in all but score line and I think all the signs are that we are going in the right direction for the run in.
As Charlie says, it's imperative that we don't undo our own good work in the next 2 home matches against beatable teams. We have a chance to firmly put us ourselves in the play off mix.
Great result last night, roll on Saturday
Uta
weststandupperlacostearmy
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10:18am Wed 20 Feb 13
Bruno Greer Upson Bridge
El Abd
Spanish Orlandi
Vicente
Barnes Ulloa
Brighton 3 Flat cap cheats 0
Im not bitter!
El Duderino
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10:18am Wed 20 Feb 13
SMF20 wrote:Great post. UTA!
I think the Launchpad was the game at home to Hull.
When you think that in the last 3 games we have not only beaten the teams sitting 1st and 2nd in the division but have also achieved this with them having the best away and best home records in the championship.
Add to this that we absolutely thumped a team from the premiership last year and who have just knocked Arsenal out of the cup in all but score line and I think all the signs are that we are going in the right direction for the run in.
As Charlie says, it's imperative that we don't undo our own good work in the next 2 home matches against beatable teams. We have a chance to firmly put us ourselves in the play off mix.
Great result last night, roll on Saturday
Uta
dave from bexill
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10:21am Wed 20 Feb 13
SMF20 wrote:Good post SMF20
I think the Launchpad was the game at home to Hull.
When you think that in the last 3 games we have not only beaten the teams sitting 1st and 2nd in the division but have also achieved this with them having the best away and best home records in the championship.
Add to this that we absolutely thumped a team from the premiership last year and who have just knocked Arsenal out of the cup in all but score line and I think all the signs are that we are going in the right direction for the run in.
As Charlie says, it's imperative that we don't undo our own good work in the next 2 home matches against beatable teams. We have a chance to firmly put us ourselves in the play off mix.
Great result last night, roll on Saturday
Uta
pablobrowno
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10:22am Wed 20 Feb 13
Clean Sheet wrote:We still have a bad record against the top six but slightly better now! Come on be serious the way things stand a 5th or 6th finish would be as good as it gets, we won't catch Palace and defo won't catch watford! However with Leicester at home and midds away these are crucial, and we simply have to step up now and dispatch Burnley and Hudds. This means putting our chances away and I do believe Ulloa will start to do that.
For those who said we have a bad record against the top 6 clubs, to beat the runaway leaders on their ground is fantastic! Onwards and upwards Seagulls, but also lets keep our feet on the ground. Currently Cardiff, Hull and Watford appear favorites for promotion. To substitute the Seagulls for one of this would be an incredible feat.
Can't wait for sat..UTA!!!
SMF20
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10:23am Wed 20 Feb 13
weststandupperlacostI can see this should Hammond be injured for Saturday.
earmy wrote:
TK
Bruno Greer Upson Bridge
El Abd
Spanish Orlandi
Vicente
Barnes Ulloa
Brighton 3 Flat cap cheats 0
Im not bitter!
I like the thought of Adam filling the Bridcutt role.
Hovite
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10:38am Wed 20 Feb 13
weststandupperlacostIs Orlandi Spanish?
earmy wrote:
TK
Bruno Greer Upson Bridge
El Abd
Spanish Orlandi
Vicente
Barnes Ulloa
Brighton 3 Flat cap cheats 0
Im not bitter!
Dr Baldhead
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10:40am Wed 20 Feb 13
Seeing that George Barker was on the bench last night, one would assume that LD would also be available for selection. Given that GG wasn't risked for teh match, I'd have thought that Dunky would have been amongst the subs at least - is he carrying a knock too?
Chi Gull
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10:43am Wed 20 Feb 13
Lets see how the injuries pan out. I fancy Vicente playing just behind Ulloa with Barnes in his wide more defensive role.
LACHANCE
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10:44am Wed 20 Feb 13
Chi Gull
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10:47am Wed 20 Feb 13
weststandupperlacostWhat about Buckley? I know Vegas thought he had a poor game last night but from what I saw he was a threat on the break and he will come good at some point soon. I think we need to start home games with either him or KLL - gives us width and options going forward.
earmy wrote:
TK
Bruno Greer Upson Bridge
El Abd
Spanish Orlandi
Vicente
Barnes Ulloa
Brighton 3 Flat cap cheats 0
Im not bitter!
phumps
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10:47am Wed 20 Feb 13
phumps
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10:51am Wed 20 Feb 13
Hovite
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10:52am Wed 20 Feb 13
Chi Gull wrote:Would it not be easier to write Lopez instead of Spanish Dave?
Spanish Dave to fill the Bridcutt role anyone ?
Lets see how the injuries pan out. I fancy Vicente playing just behind Ulloa with Barnes in his wide more defensive role.
Just like weststandupperlacost
earmy using Spanish Orlandi instead of Orlandi.
Not having a go, I am just feeling a bit pedantic this morning.
Lopez and Orlandi does the job ;o)
weststandupperlacostearmy
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11:09am Wed 20 Feb 13
Hovite wrote:Good morning Mr Pedantic, we in the West upper A block refer to Lopez as Spanish Dave! Orlandi is....Orlandi. Anyway i hope the atmosphere on Sat is as good as last season against Burnley but lets keep all 11 on the pitch.
Chi Gull wrote:Would it not be easier to write Lopez instead of Spanish Dave?
Spanish Dave to fill the Bridcutt role anyone ?
Lets see how the injuries pan out. I fancy Vicente playing just behind Ulloa with Barnes in his wide more defensive role.
Just like weststandupperlacost
earmy using Spanish Orlandi instead of Orlandi.
Not having a go, I am just feeling a bit pedantic this morning.
Lopez and Orlandi does the job ;o)
Grendel
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11:19am Wed 20 Feb 13
LAWgull
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11:27am Wed 20 Feb 13
Jonathan Mouette wrote:Love it VERY FUNNY
My first comment relates to TK who should now be the automatic 1st choice for Poland. Szczesny had another mediocre game last night and Arsenal must quickly find another keeper (not TK though!). I endorse Charlie's comments that this must serve as a launch pad for the run in. There are so many 6 pointers coming up and it is really important to maintain the momentum. If the defensive issue is a major problem would it not be possible to run Upson just in front of the usual back 4. He has the nouse to take on Bridcutt's role... Only an idea... And now a repeat of the conversation which took place between my son and I as the game drew to a close last night... Cripes, how did he miss that! £2M we paid and he can't score from there. How much time does he really need to settle in... Chris Wood took 30 minutes at Leicester to score 2 goals and he didn't cost that much. Bloody hell, this bloke runs round just like CMS and is about as reliable in front of goal.... I am really beginning to have doubts about him, it's very worrying... and God, he's scored... The man's a hero, another legend in the making. What a star. Forget everything I just said Nicky, this guy is absolute magic. Funny old game innit !!!
SeagullOverSelsey
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11:27am Wed 20 Feb 13
idering the result last night I would leave the defence as it is with Calderon as the holding midfielder.Lopez is playing well (another two assists last night) so I can't see GP leaving him out and GP will certainly bring back Barnes if Hammond is unfit.So my team for Sat. is:
TK
Bruno El-Abd Upson Bridge
Lopez Calderon Orlandi
Vicente
Barnes Ulloa
(Barnes to play either left or right sided)
pablobrowno
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11:31am Wed 20 Feb 13
Phew!!!
Bish May Turn
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12:22pm Wed 20 Feb 13
SeagullOverSelsey wrote:Why look to fill the role of Bridders, he's so much better than anyone else in that holding role. Calderon in for Bruno who at the moment is a liability, lets go 4-4-2, Vicente, Orlandi, Buckley, Hammond if fit, Barnes & Alloa. Kill em off early, we owe them for last season.
El Abd in Liam's role is a good shout if GG returns,however,cons idering the result last night I would leave the defence as it is with Calderon as the holding midfielder.Lopez is playing well (another two assists last night) so I can't see GP leaving him out and GP will certainly bring back Barnes if Hammond is unfit.So my team for Sat. is: TK Bruno El-Abd Upson Bridge Lopez Calderon Orlandi Vicente Barnes Ulloa (Barnes to play either left or right sided)
college
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12:32pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Hovite
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12:56pm Wed 20 Feb 13
pablobrowno wrote:So the correct term would be Spatalian Dave.
Orlandi is actually Italian born in Spain. Both parents italian.
Phew!!!
There you go weststandupperlacost
earmy
I will stick to Lopez, if listing a matchday squad, in the terraces use what you like ;o)
Hovite
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1:00pm Wed 20 Feb 13
college wrote:Yep I think he would cover Bridders role well, with the advantage that he can shoot.
Calde in for Bridcutt, I personally think he's better than Bruno at the back. His distribution is better, he sees and plays to runs made into the channels and he can cross a ball + he marks up well and stays with his man, and he's not exactly shy when it comes to a tackle. I think he's perfect for the temporary midfield role in Bridcutts absence. But I'm no Gus and he's been doing fine without my advice so far so we'll have to wait and see, roll on the weekend.
Bridders doesn't seem to be able to take advantage of goal shooting opportunities. This seems to be a weakness in his otherwise very strong game.
heathgate
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1:23pm Wed 20 Feb 13
weststandupperlacostWhy would you change a side that has just beaten the league leaders on their own tump?? Change only to support suspension and/or injury, otherwise leave it as it is. I cant believe some of you lot, we have suddenly got the right mix after all the chopping and changing, taken vital points off top teams and you want to change it some more.
earmy wrote:
TK Bruno Greer Upson Bridge El Abd Spanish Orlandi Vicente Barnes Ulloa Brighton 3 Flat cap cheats 0 Im not bitter!
Sheeeesh!!
heathgate
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1:25pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Madness.
heathgate
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1:26pm Wed 20 Feb 13
weststandupperlacostMore like weststandupperlaboto
earmy wrote:
TK Bruno Greer Upson Bridge El Abd Spanish Orlandi Vicente Barnes Ulloa Brighton 3 Flat cap cheats 0 Im not bitter!
my
Eddy B
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1:54pm Wed 20 Feb 13
weststandupperlacostKeeping 11 on the pitch would my fear with El Abdo in the Bridders role! Like the idea of trying El David there. He can tackle and pass. Also there is the ever dependable Calde or Dicko. Have a feeling missing both Bridders and Hammo could be an opportunity to try something that may enhance our free flowing turn of defence into attack. Really liked the way David did this last night for the second goal following his interception, sure other players may have walked it into the corner flag or passed it backwards.
earmy wrote:
Hovite wrote:Good morning Mr Pedantic, we in the West upper A block refer to Lopez as Spanish Dave! Orlandi is....Orlandi. Anyway i hope the atmosphere on Sat is as good as last season against Burnley but lets keep all 11 on the pitch.
Chi Gull wrote:Would it not be easier to write Lopez instead of Spanish Dave?
Spanish Dave to fill the Bridcutt role anyone ?
Lets see how the injuries pan out. I fancy Vicente playing just behind Ulloa with Barnes in his wide more defensive role.
Just like weststandupperlacost
earmy using Spanish Orlandi instead of Orlandi.
Not having a go, I am just feeling a bit pedantic this morning.
Lopez and Orlandi does the job ;o)
VegasSeagull
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2:00pm Wed 20 Feb 13
When we signed the young Latvian lad I am sure that I read thta he can play more of a central role if needed, could he fill in for Bridcutt, just a thought.
I quite like the idea of maybe putting Upson in for Bridcutt and Greer for Upson, assuming Greer if 100%.
I wouldn't rule out Hammond playing at the weekend, they got him off quickly after the knock and by now already know how bad or not the knock is.
Hovite
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2:05pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Eddy B wrote:This is the beauty of the squad we have this year, we can cover suspensions and injuries and still be optomistic about the changes being possible enhancements. UTA
weststandupperlacostKeeping 11 on the pitch would my fear with El Abdo in the Bridders role! Like the idea of trying El David there. He can tackle and pass. Also there is the ever dependable Calde or Dicko. Have a feeling missing both Bridders and Hammo could be an opportunity to try something that may enhance our free flowing turn of defence into attack. Really liked the way David did this last night for the second goal following his interception, sure other players may have walked it into the corner flag or passed it backwards.
earmy wrote:
Hovite wrote:Good morning Mr Pedantic, we in the West upper A block refer to Lopez as Spanish Dave! Orlandi is....Orlandi. Anyway i hope the atmosphere on Sat is as good as last season against Burnley but lets keep all 11 on the pitch.
Chi Gull wrote:Would it not be easier to write Lopez instead of Spanish Dave?
Spanish Dave to fill the Bridcutt role anyone ?
Lets see how the injuries pan out. I fancy Vicente playing just behind Ulloa with Barnes in his wide more defensive role.
Just like weststandupperlacost
earmy using Spanish Orlandi instead of Orlandi.
Not having a go, I am just feeling a bit pedantic this morning.
Lopez and Orlandi does the job ;o)
phumps
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2:09pm Wed 20 Feb 13
VegasSeagull
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2:17pm Wed 20 Feb 13
By the end of the game Barnes and Buckley/Lua Lua would be on Vicente would be off.
VegasSeagull
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2:31pm Wed 20 Feb 13
This is not a walkover, we will have to be on our game.They have lost or drawn to lower teams but appear to up their game when against good opposition.
WestStander17
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2:43pm Wed 20 Feb 13
heathgate wrote:I understand your "don't change a winning team" point, Heathgate, but surely we'd like to think Saturday's game at home to Burnley will be a very different game to last night. We want the same result, of course, but we will be dominating possession again rather than playing on the break.
weststandupperlacostWhy would you change a side that has just beaten the league leaders on their own tump?? Change only to support suspension and/or injury, otherwise leave it as it is. I cant believe some of you lot, we have suddenly got the right mix after all the chopping and changing, taken vital points off top teams and you want to change it some more.
earmy wrote:
TK Bruno Greer Upson Bridge El Abd Spanish Orlandi Vicente Barnes Ulloa Brighton 3 Flat cap cheats 0 Im not bitter!
Sheeeesh!!
Why change the line-up? One word for me....Vicente. Best player in the whole division by a country mile. If he is fit enough to play an hour in a game we will have a lot of the ball, he has to play. He is the one player who can open up a defensively organised team which I would think Burnley will be focussed on being.
I really hope Hammond can recover for Saturday. As I've said before, in Bridcutt's position, I think he would impress much more as I think it'll be easier for him to hold his position rather than having to cover lots of ground. Will show us exactly how good Bridcutt is whoever fills in there. Think I'd choose Calderon if Hammond didn't make it.
For what its worth, giving me a team of.....
Kuszczak
Bruno - El Abd - Upson - Bridge
Hammond or Calderon
Buckley - Lopez - Vicente - Orlandi
Ulloa
Downlander
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2:52pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Brighton and other clubs have had the frustration of dropping home points after dominating home games but Cardiff have escaped the lottery of lady luck.
Of their 13 home wins, 10 have been by the odd goal. In any of these games a fluky or unjust goal by their opponents could have cost them points.
I've been around a long time and I've never known a season when so many hard earned home points have escaped. Realisticly at least 10.
This is a very intriging league this season - so many very well organized teams with excellent players and coaches.
From now on every point will be like extracting a gold nugget mined from the toughest environment and not to be carelessly thrown away.
Whether we watch Premier League action at the Amex next season is entirely in our own hands.
Fetch the dynamite!
mikeygit
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3:00pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Another point I do not think anyone has mentioned--no word from Gus on last nights game, all reports are from Charlie. Anyone know whether Gus was at the game?? or was he on 'other business'?? Good also last night to see two from the Dev Squad as contenders.
ballantrrae
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3:07pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Jonathan Mouette wrote:Jonathan M your post made me chuckle - thanks. Good to see Ulloa score since only a couple of days ago he said he was confident he 'would soon'.
My first comment relates to TK who should now be the automatic 1st choice for Poland. Szczesny had another mediocre game last night and Arsenal must quickly find another keeper (not TK though!). I endorse Charlie's comments that this must serve as a launch pad for the run in. There are so many 6 pointers coming up and it is really important to maintain the momentum. If the defensive issue is a major problem would it not be possible to run Upson just in front of the usual back 4. He has the nouse to take on Bridcutt's role... Only an idea...
And now a repeat of the conversation which took place between my son and I as the game drew to a close last night...
Cripes, how did he miss that! £2M we paid and he can't score from there. How much time does he really need to settle in... Chris Wood took 30 minutes at Leicester to score 2 goals and he didn't cost that much. Bloody hell, this bloke runs round just like CMS and is about as reliable in front of goal.... I am really beginning to have doubts about him, it's very worrying... and God, he's scored... The man's a hero, another legend in the making. What a star. Forget everything I just said Nicky, this guy is absolute magic.
Funny old game innit !!!
A resilient team display with a MoM performance from Kuszcvak and stong performances from Upson, Bridge and El-Arb in defence although I thought El-Arb picked up a needless booking. David's two passes leading to the goals first rate and two good finshes.
Strange game as you say JM. Against Blackburn we had 16 shots of which 10 were on target I believe but only scored the one goal a penalty. Last night we only had 5 shots with 4 on target but score twice from open play. It almost seems that the more possession we have the less likely we are to score.
I hope Hammond recovers in time for Saturday's game now that Bridcutt is supended not that I want to see any more back passes like last night's.
I wonder who will fill the defensive midfield role if Hammond and Crofts are both out, Calde or Dicker ?
Thoughts any one ?
VegasSeagull
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3:09pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Home or away doesn't matter, well not in my mind it doesn't.
We have Palace, Leicester and Middlesbrough left to play.
Cardiff have Midd, Wat, Lei and Hull.
Hull have Pal, Wat, Midd and Cardiff.
Watford have Hull, Car and Lei.
Palace have, Hull, BHA and Lei.
Leicester have, BHA, Car, Pal and Wat.
Middlesbrough have Car, Hull and BHA
All the teams have other tough matches.
The reason why home or away doesn't matter to me is that we have to win no matter where we play them.
mr punch
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3:10pm Wed 20 Feb 13
saraman
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3:10pm Wed 20 Feb 13
mikeygit wrote:By all accounts Mikey, Gus has been laid up with a virus.
Very good points, Downlander. No team is a walkover this season and IMO we should come storming out every game to try and get early goals to put the pressure on teams as soon as possible. Another point I do not think anyone has mentioned--no word from Gus on last nights game, all reports are from Charlie. Anyone know whether Gus was at the game?? or was he on 'other business'?? Good also last night to see two from the Dev Squad as contenders.
ballantrrae
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3:12pm Wed 20 Feb 13
SMF20 wrote:Good post SMF20 and congrats on dreaming the correct result and right goals 'differential' (2 more to us than Cardiff) even if your scoreline wasn't spot on. Keep dreaming like that and we'll make the play-offs !
I think the Launchpad was the game at home to Hull.
When you think that in the last 3 games we have not only beaten the teams sitting 1st and 2nd in the division but have also achieved this with them having the best away and best home records in the championship.
Add to this that we absolutely thumped a team from the premiership last year and who have just knocked Arsenal out of the cup in all but score line and I think all the signs are that we are going in the right direction for the run in.
As Charlie says, it's imperative that we don't undo our own good work in the next 2 home matches against beatable teams. We have a chance to firmly put us ourselves in the play off mix.
Great result last night, roll on Saturday
Uta
mikeygit
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3:17pm Wed 20 Feb 13
oldwalbertonian
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3:18pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Hovite wrote:Italianish Dave surely.
pablobrowno wrote:So the correct term would be Spatalian Dave.
Orlandi is actually Italian born in Spain. Both parents italian.
Phew!!!
There you go weststandupperlacost
earmy
I will stick to Lopez, if listing a matchday squad, in the terraces use what you like ;o)
Chi Gull
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3:22pm Wed 20 Feb 13
mikeygit
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3:30pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Chi Gull--maybe hallucinating about Gus-BUT,YES we did win 2-0Ho Ho and He He
Howie2
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3:53pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Hovite
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4:11pm Wed 20 Feb 13
oldwalbertonian wrote:yep I like what you did there with the play on words and double meaning, good job oldwalbertonian ;o)
Hovite wrote:Italianish Dave surely.
pablobrowno wrote:So the correct term would be Spatalian Dave.
Orlandi is actually Italian born in Spain. Both parents italian.
Phew!!!
There you go weststandupperlacost
earmy
I will stick to Lopez, if listing a matchday squad, in the terraces use what you like ;o)
VegasSeagull
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4:27pm Wed 20 Feb 13
There will be managers that go to Cardiff needing points, at the top end and at the bottom end of the table, we gave them a blue print to follow.
When a team sits at the top for so long and with so many points, some teams go there thinking that they are beat before a ball has been kicked, we broke that spell. That win could end up being worth more than 3 points to us.
fratsomrover
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4:31pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Baldseagull
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4:34pm Wed 20 Feb 13
oldwalbertonian wrote:Spatalian Andrew
Hovite wrote:Italianish Dave surely.
pablobrowno wrote:So the correct term would be Spatalian Dave.
Orlandi is actually Italian born in Spain. Both parents italian.
Phew!!!
There you go weststandupperlacost
earmy
I will stick to Lopez, if listing a matchday squad, in the terraces use what you like ;o)
pjwilk
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4:35pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Hovite
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4:52pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Baldseagull wrote:Yep got that mixed up its Orlandi who is Spataliananish or Italianish not Lopez
oldwalbertonian wrote:Spatalian Andrew
Hovite wrote:Italianish Dave surely.
pablobrowno wrote:So the correct term would be Spatalian Dave.
Orlandi is actually Italian born in Spain. Both parents italian.
Phew!!!
There you go weststandupperlacost
earmy
I will stick to Lopez, if listing a matchday squad, in the terraces use what you like ;o)
rolivan
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4:57pm Wed 20 Feb 13
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Can we finally put this to bed now in the knowledge he didn't want to stay
VegasSeagull
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4:58pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Having looked at who we have to play I reckon we might get, 8 wins, 3 draws and lose 3, for a total of, 27 points. If I am right out season's end total would be 76 points, playoff place?
How do you guys see the remaining games panning out?
.,
Hovite
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5:15pm Wed 20 Feb 13
27 - 28 from 42 is realistically achievable, anything more would make it a certanty.
Specially for you Vegas; Cardiffs average has been 2.09375
Baldseagull
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5:20pm Wed 20 Feb 13
VegasSeagull wrote:Tripe, we defended well for the most part but had a well overdue bit of luck. Cardiff shot wide, against the woodwork and over, plus were up against a good 'keeper in good form. Two dodgy back passes almost undid us, one from your man Hammond, is that a blueprint for others to follow?
I think Brighton did more than just beat Cardiff yesterday, we also showed others how they can beat them too.
There will be managers that go to Cardiff needing points, at the top end and at the bottom end of the table, we gave them a blue print to follow.
When a team sits at the top for so long and with so many points, some teams go there thinking that they are beat before a ball has been kicked, we broke that spell. That win could end up being worth more than 3 points to us.
It was just another day in the Championship, where Peterborough can win away at leaders Cardiff one week and get dicked at bottom club Bristol a fortnight later.
A good result but not a good team performance, and not a performance that would get a result usually at Cardiff.
saraman
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5:26pm Wed 20 Feb 13
VegasSeagull wrote:This is how I see it Vegas.
7 home games and 7 away games to play with three of those matches against teams that are currently in the top seven places. Having looked at who we have to play I reckon we might get, 8 wins, 3 draws and lose 3, for a total of, 27 points. If I am right out season's end total would be 76 points, playoff place? How do you guys see the remaining games panning out? .,
Burnley(H) WIN
Huddersfield(H) WIN
Bristol City(A) DRAW
Bolton(A) WIN
Palace(H) WIN
Forest(A) LOSE
Charlton(H) WIN
Leicester(H) DRAW
M'brough(A) DRAW
Peterborough(A) DRAW
Blackpool(H) WIN
Leeds(A) DRAW
Wolves(H) WIN
26 Points + 49 =75
Should just be enough.
mrgull
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5:30pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Baldseagull
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5:32pm Wed 20 Feb 13
rolivan wrote:Murray refusing a contract with us is not news, he wanted a better offer from us.If we had put as much on the table as Palace did, maybe even a little less but closer, he would be here now.
A £300,000 move to Brighton beckoned in 2008 and Murray added a League One winners medal to his haul at the club.
Murray refused a new contract with the Seagulls after three years at the club and, to the dismay of their fans, moved to bitter rivals Crystal Palace.
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Can we finally put this to bed now in the knowledge he didn't want to stay
If you really wanted to stop hearing about it, you shouldn't put links up to stories that mention it.
saraman
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5:37pm Wed 20 Feb 13
saraman wrote:If Wolves need a point to stay up and we need a point for a play-off place, it's odds on to be a draw.
VegasSeagull wrote: 7 home games and 7 away games to play with three of those matches against teams that are currently in the top seven places. Having looked at who we have to play I reckon we might get, 8 wins, 3 draws and lose 3, for a total of, 27 points. If I am right out season's end total would be 76 points, playoff place? How do you guys see the remaining games panning out? .,This is how I see it Vegas. Burnley(H) WIN Huddersfield(H) WIN Bristol City(A) DRAW Bolton(A) WIN Palace(H) WIN Forest(A) LOSE Charlton(H) WIN Leicester(H) DRAW M'brough(A) DRAW Peterborough(A) DRAW Blackpool(H) WIN Leeds(A) DRAW Wolves(H) WIN 26 Points + 49 =75 Should just be enough.
Baldseagull
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5:37pm Wed 20 Feb 13
tug509
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6:05pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Baldseagull wrote:What a crock. He wanted to make more money . He had NO respect for our great club,only a fool would believe,he could have stayed,or indeed wanted to stay. Now shut the book on this ,for all our sake. UTA not utp
rolivan wrote:Murray refusing a contract with us is not news, he wanted a better offer from us.If we had put as much on the table as Palace did, maybe even a little less but closer, he would be here now.
A £300,000 move to Brighton beckoned in 2008 and Murray added a League One winners medal to his haul at the club.
Murray refused a new contract with the Seagulls after three years at the club and, to the dismay of their fans, moved to bitter rivals Crystal Palace.
Read more: http://www.dailymail
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Can we finally put this to bed now in the knowledge he didn't want to stay
If you really wanted to stop hearing about it, you shouldn't put links up to stories that mention it.
namgo49
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6:09pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Hovite wrote:It's Spanish Dave in the West Stand Lower as well. These expressions get about!!
pablobrowno wrote:So the correct term would be Spatalian Dave.
Orlandi is actually Italian born in Spain. Both parents italian.
Phew!!!
There you go weststandupperlacost
earmy
I will stick to Lopez, if listing a matchday squad, in the terraces use what you like ;o)
Calderon for Bridcutt on Saturday.
I well remember that infamous game last year with Nooney playing left back and wing. Should have equalised just near the end, CMS had a very good chance. Will be different this year as Howe has moved on and Dyche to my mind is more honest.
Baldseagull
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6:24pm Wed 20 Feb 13
tug509 wrote:Only a fool would believe he would have gone to Palace with an equal offer on the table here.Of course he wanted more money, he was offered more money elsewhere and that is why he went, but I am told he gave Gus the opportunity to match it.That is not wanting away, its wanting pay.
Baldseagull wrote:What a crock. He wanted to make more money . He had NO respect for our great club,only a fool would believe,he could have stayed,or indeed wanted to stay. Now shut the book on this ,for all our sake. UTA not utp
rolivan wrote:Murray refusing a contract with us is not news, he wanted a better offer from us.If we had put as much on the table as Palace did, maybe even a little less but closer, he would be here now.
A £300,000 move to Brighton beckoned in 2008 and Murray added a League One winners medal to his haul at the club.
Murray refused a new contract with the Seagulls after three years at the club and, to the dismay of their fans, moved to bitter rivals Crystal Palace.
Read more: http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/sport/footbal
l/article-2281528/Eu
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rcelonas-Lionel-Mess
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Can we finally put this to bed now in the knowledge he didn't want to stay
If you really wanted to stop hearing about it, you shouldn't put links up to stories that mention it.
Hovite
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6:33pm Wed 20 Feb 13
He was on £4k, Palace offered him £11k, we offered him £7.5k, he would have stayed for £9k. With his best interest at heart the club told him to take the £11k because even if we did give him £9k, he would have been losing £100k a year.
It was a great deal at the time for him and I hope he plays in the Prem, however hopefully it won't be with Palace.
Fans want a villain or hero but it's a business deal.
He has always played it down when he has scored against us since lol so it wasn't a happy move for him.
Downlander
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6:56pm Wed 20 Feb 13
VegasSeagull wrote:Wow Vegas! This is the time of year when 10s of thousands of supporters from all round the country start the ritual of predicting results and points.
7 home games and 7 away games to play with three of those matches against teams that are currently in the top seven places.
Having looked at who we have to play I reckon we might get, 8 wins, 3 draws and lose 3, for a total of, 27 points. If I am right out season's end total would be 76 points, playoff place?
How do you guys see the remaining games panning out?
.,
Too much for me! Blows my mind.
What I do know is that ONLY ONE of the 4,782,969 combinations of results from our final 14 games will become actual.
Hope that ONE leads to a sensational outcome.
VegasSeagull
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8:40pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Burnley H win
Hudd H win
Bristol A win
Bolton A draw
Barnsley A win
Palace H loss (so sorry)
Forest A draw
Charlton H win
Leice H draw
Midd A loss
Peter A win
B.Pool H win
Leeds A loss
Wolves H win
27 points.
Freeloaders
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9:13pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Dr Baldhead wrote:Will you please turn it in about that vile waste of space.This great club does not need vile freeloaders like him anymore.The club is trying to move forward to the prem-league.With GG on his way back Gus does not need that waste of space around the team.Im very sure come the end of the season Barker and Rodgers will also be out the door with luck.Barker was only there because CMS was out with injury.Anyway we will have the young Dutch lad soon.We don't need some nightclub drunk.
Anyone know the latest on Lewis Dunk?
Seeing that George Barker was on the bench last night, one would assume that LD would also be available for selection. Given that GG wasn't risked for teh match, I'd have thought that Dunky would have been amongst the subs at least - is he carrying a knock too?
Freeloaders
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9:20pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Freeloaders
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9:24pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Hovite wrote:Your best ever post Hovite.Please keep it up.
He still lives in Brighton and he would have prefered to stay.
He was on £4k, Palace offered him £11k, we offered him £7.5k, he would have stayed for £9k. With his best interest at heart the club told him to take the £11k because even if we did give him £9k, he would have been losing £100k a year.
It was a great deal at the time for him and I hope he plays in the Prem, however hopefully it won't be with Palace.
Fans want a villain or hero but it's a business deal.
He has always played it down when he has scored against us since lol so it wasn't a happy move for him.
VegasSeagull
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9:56pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Those that left for money, good luck to them.
Those that left to play at a higher level, good luck to them.
Those that we released and found new clubs, good luck to them.
We have signed some that turned out to be among the best, some among the worst and a whole bunch inbetween, all we have asked is that whilst with us they do their best.
Freeloader has his views of who should go and why. Hovite has his views and I have mine, a sure sign of a healthy fan base of a club that is growing with every day.
When we stop talking about our team will signal the day when the managers have little or no choice in who they sign, a sure sign of a failing club.
It's a good time to be a Brighton fan.
Brighton Bill
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11:04pm Wed 20 Feb 13
saraman
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6:16am Thu 21 Feb 13
VegasSeagull wrote:Do you know what Vegas? Reading your posts is like reading Keats, Byron or Wordsworth or any other famous poet and scholar. It just seems to flow.
There is not one single player that has left Brighton at any time in it's history that should have stayed. Those that left for money, good luck to them. Those that left to play at a higher level, good luck to them. Those that we released and found new clubs, good luck to them. We have signed some that turned out to be among the best, some among the worst and a whole bunch inbetween, all we have asked is that whilst with us they do their best. Freeloader has his views of who should go and why. Hovite has his views and I have mine, a sure sign of a healthy fan base of a club that is growing with every day. When we stop talking about our team will signal the day when the managers have little or no choice in who they sign, a sure sign of a failing club. It's a good time to be a Brighton fan.
GosportGull
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9:28am Thu 21 Feb 13
WestStander17 wrote:Or maybe JFC ? It was good to see Jake getting on if only for 2 minutes ... he must be impressing Gus enough to make the bench and then get on as well ... Would like to see him play in midfield alongside the likes of Vicente and Orlandi ...Amazing result and this HAS to be the springboard for the play-offs ... UTA
heathgate wrote:I understand your "don't change a winning team" point, Heathgate, but surely we'd like to think Saturday's game at home to Burnley will be a very different game to last night. We want the same result, of course, but we will be dominating possession again rather than playing on the break. Why change the line-up? One word for me....Vicente. Best player in the whole division by a country mile. If he is fit enough to play an hour in a game we will have a lot of the ball, he has to play. He is the one player who can open up a defensively organised team which I would think Burnley will be focussed on being. I really hope Hammond can recover for Saturday. As I've said before, in Bridcutt's position, I think he would impress much more as I think it'll be easier for him to hold his position rather than having to cover lots of ground. Will show us exactly how good Bridcutt is whoever fills in there. Think I'd choose Calderon if Hammond didn't make it. For what its worth, giving me a team of..... Kuszczak Bruno - El Abd - Upson - Bridge Hammond or Calderon Buckley - Lopez - Vicente - Orlandi Ulloaweststandupperlacost earmy wrote: TK Bruno Greer Upson Bridge El Abd Spanish Orlandi Vicente Barnes Ulloa Brighton 3 Flat cap cheats 0 Im not bitter!Why would you change a side that has just beaten the league leaders on their own tump?? Change only to support suspension and/or injury, otherwise leave it as it is. I cant believe some of you lot, we have suddenly got the right mix after all the chopping and changing, taken vital points off top teams and you want to change it some more. Sheeeesh!!
GosportGull
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9:33am Thu 21 Feb 13
Chi Gull wrote:Has to be Buckley every time in place of Barnes .. we havent missed him !
weststandupperlacost earmy wrote: TK Bruno Greer Upson Bridge El Abd Spanish Orlandi Vicente Barnes Ulloa Brighton 3 Flat cap cheats 0 Im not bitter!What about Buckley? I know Vegas thought he had a poor game last night but from what I saw he was a threat on the break and he will come good at some point soon. I think we need to start home games with either him or KLL - gives us width and options going forward.
WestStander17
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11:14am Thu 21 Feb 13
Hovite wrote:Common sense to take the higher pay, it isn't a long career as a footballer.
He still lives in Brighton and he would have prefered to stay.
He was on £4k, Palace offered him £11k, we offered him £7.5k, he would have stayed for £9k. With his best interest at heart the club told him to take the £11k because even if we did give him £9k, he would have been losing £100k a year.
It was a great deal at the time for him and I hope he plays in the Prem, however hopefully it won't be with Palace.
Fans want a villain or hero but it's a business deal.
He has always played it down when he has scored against us since lol so it wasn't a happy move for him.
I was pleased when he went elsewhere as I thought we could get better and I believe we have.
Good deal for everyone as it has turned out, IMHO.
Hovite
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12:11pm Thu 21 Feb 13

StevieD says...
9:43am Wed 20 Feb 13