Poyet: Let's make make sure we stay in play-off position

Gus Poyet with Burnley manager Sean Dyche

Gus Poyet with Burnley manager Sean Dyche

First published in Sport by , Chief sports reporter

GUS Poyet has challenged his in-form Albion side to consolidate a Championship play-off spot now that they are back in the top six for the first time since early October.

A 1-0 win against Burnley at The Amex, combined with Middlesbrough’s subsequent 2-1 home defeat by Millwall, restored the Seagulls to the play-off zone.

Poyet said: "That is where we want to be. It’s very nice when you are close but you need to get there. The idea is let’s go to Middlesbrough in a few weeks time (April 13) with the option to really get ahead of them, then it will be in your hands.

“They are nice games to play. Sometimes you get to this point and you have got nothing to play for. We are in a great situation.”

Poyet was pleased to see Albion come through a scrap for the points after Burnley nullified their customary fluency at home.

He said: “I like what I am seeing because there is a different character in this squad and I’ve got different options. “We were missing a key player like Liam Bridcutt (suspended) and the team still won and we kept a clean sheet. It’s a good sign.

"We didn’t play great but you cannot be at your best for 46 games, so we’ll take it."

Winger Will Buckley also missed out with the same virus which struck Poyet last week. Bridcutt completes his two-match ban with Saturday’s visit by struggling Huddersfield.

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9:32am Mon 25 Feb 13

tonytowner1 says...

Keep playing our quality players gus that bring that something extra please in terms of pace, skill levels and incision. Hopefully you won't rest our by far best player, V, with those 4 matches in 11 days. Seeing as we are unable to win if we go behind, best he STARTS each match, no?

The stats clearly show tht the players involved in the last 4 matches make for the best combinations so please don't get too clever. Most of the crowd can tell from the line up at the start whether we are going to come out playing good quality football from the off or not
Keep playing our quality players gus that bring that something extra please in terms of pace, skill levels and incision. Hopefully you won't rest our by far best player, V, with those 4 matches in 11 days. Seeing as we are unable to win if we go behind, best he STARTS each match, no? The stats clearly show tht the players involved in the last 4 matches make for the best combinations so please don't get too clever. Most of the crowd can tell from the line up at the start whether we are going to come out playing good quality football from the off or not tonytowner1
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9:42am Mon 25 Feb 13

graham w says...

Well said tony towner..fully concur,...!!! uta... seagulls ...
Well said tony towner..fully concur,...!!! uta... seagulls ... graham w
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9:46am Mon 25 Feb 13

WestStander17 says...

tonytowner1 wrote:
Keep playing our quality players gus that bring that something extra please in terms of pace, skill levels and incision. Hopefully you won't rest our by far best player, V, with those 4 matches in 11 days. Seeing as we are unable to win if we go behind, best he STARTS each match, no?

The stats clearly show tht the players involved in the last 4 matches make for the best combinations so please don't get too clever. Most of the crowd can tell from the line up at the start whether we are going to come out playing good quality football from the off or not
In a perfect world, it would be great to have Vicente playing every 90 mins but I don't see any chance him playing 4 games in 11 days. Not yet anyway. Its vital, with the medical staff, we manage Vicente's aches and pains to avoid losing him before the end of the season. If we make the play-offs, having Vicente will be a MASSIVE help!
[quote][p][bold]tonytowner1[/bold] wrote: Keep playing our quality players gus that bring that something extra please in terms of pace, skill levels and incision. Hopefully you won't rest our by far best player, V, with those 4 matches in 11 days. Seeing as we are unable to win if we go behind, best he STARTS each match, no? The stats clearly show tht the players involved in the last 4 matches make for the best combinations so please don't get too clever. Most of the crowd can tell from the line up at the start whether we are going to come out playing good quality football from the off or not[/p][/quote]In a perfect world, it would be great to have Vicente playing every 90 mins but I don't see any chance him playing 4 games in 11 days. Not yet anyway. Its vital, with the medical staff, we manage Vicente's aches and pains to avoid losing him before the end of the season. If we make the play-offs, having Vicente will be a MASSIVE help! WestStander17
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9:50am Mon 25 Feb 13

Gazza by the sea says...

10 points from 12 without Mr 'run around a lot, work extremely hard and produce not a lot'. Nuff said Gus.
10 points from 12 without Mr 'run around a lot, work extremely hard and produce not a lot'. Nuff said Gus. Gazza by the sea
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10:08am Mon 25 Feb 13

saraman says...

I'd love to put a comment balloon to Gus's grin above. It would say ''We are going to screw you for 3 points this afternoon Mr Dyche'' And we did!
I'd love to put a comment balloon to Gus's grin above. It would say ''We are going to screw you for 3 points this afternoon Mr Dyche'' And we did! saraman
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10:13am Mon 25 Feb 13

LACHANCE says...

Let,s keep the winning way going rotate the squad as necessary for each game.We should win the next two games against Huddersfield and Bristol,Bolton will be tougher but l feel we are due a win against Palace.l will be away on one off my Safari's in Morocco
so l will miss the Palace game l will give my ticket to my daughter.Need a nother two season tickets for next season that will make seven to pay for costing me a small fortune,but my grandsons enjoy the football so its worth it.
Let,s keep the winning way going rotate the squad as necessary for each game.We should win the next two games against Huddersfield and Bristol,Bolton will be tougher but l feel we are due a win against Palace.l will be away on one off my Safari's in Morocco so l will miss the Palace game l will give my ticket to my daughter.Need a nother two season tickets for next season that will make seven to pay for costing me a small fortune,but my grandsons enjoy the football so its worth it. LACHANCE
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11:47am Mon 25 Feb 13

SHIPPERS4 says...

Gazza by the sea wrote:
10 points from 12 without Mr 'run around a lot, work extremely hard and produce not a lot'. Nuff said Gus.
Agree, I always feel slightly depressed when I get to the Amex and see AB on the team sheet, feel we are slighly behind before a ball is kicked.

I loved the Blackburn line up a couple of weeks ago, and would love to see more of this, but with CMS instead of poor WH.
[quote][p][bold]Gazza by the sea[/bold] wrote: 10 points from 12 without Mr 'run around a lot, work extremely hard and produce not a lot'. Nuff said Gus.[/p][/quote]Agree, I always feel slightly depressed when I get to the Amex and see AB on the team sheet, feel we are slighly behind before a ball is kicked. I loved the Blackburn line up a couple of weeks ago, and would love to see more of this, but with CMS instead of poor WH. SHIPPERS4
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11:52am Mon 25 Feb 13

fairweathersupporter says...

LACHANCE wrote:
Let,s keep the winning way going rotate the squad as necessary for each game.We should win the next two games against Huddersfield and Bristol,Bolton will be tougher but l feel we are due a win against Palace.l will be away on one off my Safari's in Morocco so l will miss the Palace game l will give my ticket to my daughter.Need a nother two season tickets for next season that will make seven to pay for costing me a small fortune,but my grandsons enjoy the football so its worth it.
I think you may get another chance to see us play Palarse this season...
[quote][p][bold]LACHANCE[/bold] wrote: Let,s keep the winning way going rotate the squad as necessary for each game.We should win the next two games against Huddersfield and Bristol,Bolton will be tougher but l feel we are due a win against Palace.l will be away on one off my Safari's in Morocco so l will miss the Palace game l will give my ticket to my daughter.Need a nother two season tickets for next season that will make seven to pay for costing me a small fortune,but my grandsons enjoy the football so its worth it.[/p][/quote]I think you may get another chance to see us play Palarse this season... fairweathersupporter
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12:05pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Baldseagull says...

Andy Naylor, if getting the points is being in form, we are. But we have not been playing our best football for a few weeks, so I wouldn't describe us as being in form at all.
The points are very welcome though, and as Gus says, we didn't play great, so very happy to creep up the table.
Andy Naylor, if getting the points is being in form, we are. But we have not been playing our best football for a few weeks, so I wouldn't describe us as being in form at all. The points are very welcome though, and as Gus says, we didn't play great, so very happy to creep up the table. Baldseagull
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12:26pm Mon 25 Feb 13

mark by the sea says...

fairweathersupporter wrote:
LACHANCE wrote:
Let,s keep the winning way going rotate the squad as necessary for each game.We should win the next two games against Huddersfield and Bristol,Bolton will be tougher but l feel we are due a win against Palace.l will be away on one off my Safari's in Morocco so l will miss the Palace game l will give my ticket to my daughter.Need a nother two season tickets for next season that will make seven to pay for costing me a small fortune,but my grandsons enjoy the football so its worth it.
I think you may get another chance to see us play Palarse this season...
Think so too, we are on a roll, for those that say form is more than results, look at man united,, they have struggled for most of pre Xmas to defend as a championship title contender .. But it's the 1-0 wins that really count, same with keepers, having a keeper who can save twenty shots in a row, only to allow one under the arm when not under pressure builds lack of confidence across the team.
The biggest difference from us a month ago is upson, his positional ability is second to none in this division..
Forget what every other team are doing, lets have a sell out Saturday, and help the team get three points.
[quote][p][bold]fairweathersupporter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LACHANCE[/bold] wrote: Let,s keep the winning way going rotate the squad as necessary for each game.We should win the next two games against Huddersfield and Bristol,Bolton will be tougher but l feel we are due a win against Palace.l will be away on one off my Safari's in Morocco so l will miss the Palace game l will give my ticket to my daughter.Need a nother two season tickets for next season that will make seven to pay for costing me a small fortune,but my grandsons enjoy the football so its worth it.[/p][/quote]I think you may get another chance to see us play Palarse this season...[/p][/quote]Think so too, we are on a roll, for those that say form is more than results, look at man united,, they have struggled for most of pre Xmas to defend as a championship title contender .. But it's the 1-0 wins that really count, same with keepers, having a keeper who can save twenty shots in a row, only to allow one under the arm when not under pressure builds lack of confidence across the team. The biggest difference from us a month ago is upson, his positional ability is second to none in this division.. Forget what every other team are doing, lets have a sell out Saturday, and help the team get three points. mark by the sea
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12:38pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

Baldseagull wrote:
Andy Naylor, if getting the points is being in form, we are. But we have not been playing our best football for a few weeks, so I wouldn't describe us as being in form at all.
The points are very welcome though, and as Gus says, we didn't play great, so very happy to creep up the table.
Hmm, we were superb against Blackburn less than a fortnight ago and have only played twice since - I'd hardly consider that as "not playing our best football for a few weeks".
[quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: Andy Naylor, if getting the points is being in form, we are. But we have not been playing our best football for a few weeks, so I wouldn't describe us as being in form at all. The points are very welcome though, and as Gus says, we didn't play great, so very happy to creep up the table.[/p][/quote]Hmm, we were superb against Blackburn less than a fortnight ago and have only played twice since - I'd hardly consider that as "not playing our best football for a few weeks". Old Scrote of the Amex
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1:10pm Mon 25 Feb 13

VegasSeagull says...

I am not sure that a team sheet tells us how our team are going to play, but it may tell us how we want to play, the opposition does have some say in our performance.

We have gone from a team that created many chances, but converted few, to one that creates fewer chances but converts more, as a percentage. Why is that?

Upson has arrived so he has contributed to our clean sheets, but that's not goal scoring. Ulloa has arrived, is he the reason, maybe. Perhaps it's the return of Vicente, but surely he would help create more chances not fewer. I could have said that it's down to the opposition, they have, 'worked us out,' but we don't play like we used to, Gus has gone more attacking.

Those that appear to have lost their form, Buckley and CMS, combined with Barnes missing three matches, Lua Lua no longer used as an impact sub and Crofts being ruled out, the absense of these players seems to coincide with our change in fortunes. Were these the guys that were creating all those chances but also failing to make the most of what they created?

Perhaps what we have today that we didn't have yesterday is composure, composure from the back right up to the front line. No more, 12 shots, 3 on target, so that must have been 12 chances created and 9 missed or wasted.
Perhaps the quality of those on the team sheet means that we will create less but what we do create will be of higher standard and the finishing becomes more clinical.

Something has changed and I can't put my finger on what it is but what ever it is, long may it last. I'll take Brighton 1 others 0 if that's what it takes to get us promoted.
I am not sure that a team sheet tells us how our team are going to play, but it may tell us how we want to play, the opposition does have some say in our performance. We have gone from a team that created many chances, but converted few, to one that creates fewer chances but converts more, as a percentage. Why is that? Upson has arrived so he has contributed to our clean sheets, but that's not goal scoring. Ulloa has arrived, is he the reason, maybe. Perhaps it's the return of Vicente, but surely he would help create more chances not fewer. I could have said that it's down to the opposition, they have, 'worked us out,' but we don't play like we used to, Gus has gone more attacking. Those that appear to have lost their form, Buckley and CMS, combined with Barnes missing three matches, Lua Lua no longer used as an impact sub and Crofts being ruled out, the absense of these players seems to coincide with our change in fortunes. Were these the guys that were creating all those chances but also failing to make the most of what they created? Perhaps what we have today that we didn't have yesterday is composure, composure from the back right up to the front line. No more, 12 shots, 3 on target, so that must have been 12 chances created and 9 missed or wasted. Perhaps the quality of those on the team sheet means that we will create less but what we do create will be of higher standard and the finishing becomes more clinical. Something has changed and I can't put my finger on what it is but what ever it is, long may it last. I'll take Brighton 1 others 0 if that's what it takes to get us promoted. VegasSeagull
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1:17pm Mon 25 Feb 13

WestStander17 says...

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
Baldseagull wrote:
Andy Naylor, if getting the points is being in form, we are. But we have not been playing our best football for a few weeks, so I wouldn't describe us as being in form at all.
The points are very welcome though, and as Gus says, we didn't play great, so very happy to creep up the table.
Hmm, we were superb against Blackburn less than a fortnight ago and have only played twice since - I'd hardly consider that as "not playing our best football for a few weeks".
I agree, OSotA. We played brilliantly against Blackburn. Cardiff were always going to be on the front foot on their own turf but we adapted and got a great result. They followed a good win against another promotion chasing team in Hull. I'd say that is pretty good form in the last few weeks. Ok, we didn't play great on Saturday but we still created a few good chances in the first half and battled through to take the points.

We aren't going to play like we did against Blackburn every week. No team plays brilliantly every game, even Barcelona!

I think Burnley should take some credit for stopping our normal free flowing football on Saturday. They seemed to stop us playing from the back and force us into longer balls forward for most of the game. In fact, without Ulloa as a target for those longer balls, we may have really struggled. Hopefully, other teams aren't able to copy what they were able to do!
[quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baldseagull[/bold] wrote: Andy Naylor, if getting the points is being in form, we are. But we have not been playing our best football for a few weeks, so I wouldn't describe us as being in form at all. The points are very welcome though, and as Gus says, we didn't play great, so very happy to creep up the table.[/p][/quote]Hmm, we were superb against Blackburn less than a fortnight ago and have only played twice since - I'd hardly consider that as "not playing our best football for a few weeks".[/p][/quote]I agree, OSotA. We played brilliantly against Blackburn. Cardiff were always going to be on the front foot on their own turf but we adapted and got a great result. They followed a good win against another promotion chasing team in Hull. I'd say that is pretty good form in the last few weeks. Ok, we didn't play great on Saturday but we still created a few good chances in the first half and battled through to take the points. We aren't going to play like we did against Blackburn every week. No team plays brilliantly every game, even Barcelona! I think Burnley should take some credit for stopping our normal free flowing football on Saturday. They seemed to stop us playing from the back and force us into longer balls forward for most of the game. In fact, without Ulloa as a target for those longer balls, we may have really struggled. Hopefully, other teams aren't able to copy what they were able to do! WestStander17
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1:24pm Mon 25 Feb 13

WestStander17 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I am not sure that a team sheet tells us how our team are going to play, but it may tell us how we want to play, the opposition does have some say in our performance.

We have gone from a team that created many chances, but converted few, to one that creates fewer chances but converts more, as a percentage. Why is that?

Upson has arrived so he has contributed to our clean sheets, but that's not goal scoring. Ulloa has arrived, is he the reason, maybe. Perhaps it's the return of Vicente, but surely he would help create more chances not fewer. I could have said that it's down to the opposition, they have, 'worked us out,' but we don't play like we used to, Gus has gone more attacking.

Those that appear to have lost their form, Buckley and CMS, combined with Barnes missing three matches, Lua Lua no longer used as an impact sub and Crofts being ruled out, the absense of these players seems to coincide with our change in fortunes. Were these the guys that were creating all those chances but also failing to make the most of what they created?

Perhaps what we have today that we didn't have yesterday is composure, composure from the back right up to the front line. No more, 12 shots, 3 on target, so that must have been 12 chances created and 9 missed or wasted.
Perhaps the quality of those on the team sheet means that we will create less but what we do create will be of higher standard and the finishing becomes more clinical.

Something has changed and I can't put my finger on what it is but what ever it is, long may it last. I'll take Brighton 1 others 0 if that's what it takes to get us promoted.
Interesting post, Vegas.

Vicente possibly has an effect in that I believe he creates better chances. Just because his passes and crosses have that bit more quality to them. But, as you say, you would think he would also create more chances. However, we must have created loads against Blackburn, no?

We were never going to create hundreds against Cardiff but, playing on the break, possibly creates clearer chances?

Hull, just good defensively so, again, chances are bound to be less in number.

Thing is, a Vicente free-kick from within 25 yards suddenly becomes quite a good chance as opposed to someone else taking it. As do corners etc.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I am not sure that a team sheet tells us how our team are going to play, but it may tell us how we want to play, the opposition does have some say in our performance. We have gone from a team that created many chances, but converted few, to one that creates fewer chances but converts more, as a percentage. Why is that? Upson has arrived so he has contributed to our clean sheets, but that's not goal scoring. Ulloa has arrived, is he the reason, maybe. Perhaps it's the return of Vicente, but surely he would help create more chances not fewer. I could have said that it's down to the opposition, they have, 'worked us out,' but we don't play like we used to, Gus has gone more attacking. Those that appear to have lost their form, Buckley and CMS, combined with Barnes missing three matches, Lua Lua no longer used as an impact sub and Crofts being ruled out, the absense of these players seems to coincide with our change in fortunes. Were these the guys that were creating all those chances but also failing to make the most of what they created? Perhaps what we have today that we didn't have yesterday is composure, composure from the back right up to the front line. No more, 12 shots, 3 on target, so that must have been 12 chances created and 9 missed or wasted. Perhaps the quality of those on the team sheet means that we will create less but what we do create will be of higher standard and the finishing becomes more clinical. Something has changed and I can't put my finger on what it is but what ever it is, long may it last. I'll take Brighton 1 others 0 if that's what it takes to get us promoted.[/p][/quote]Interesting post, Vegas. Vicente possibly has an effect in that I believe he creates better chances. Just because his passes and crosses have that bit more quality to them. But, as you say, you would think he would also create more chances. However, we must have created loads against Blackburn, no? We were never going to create hundreds against Cardiff but, playing on the break, possibly creates clearer chances? Hull, just good defensively so, again, chances are bound to be less in number. Thing is, a Vicente free-kick from within 25 yards suddenly becomes quite a good chance as opposed to someone else taking it. As do corners etc. WestStander17
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1:29pm Mon 25 Feb 13

mark by the sea says...

It's all about options and quality, upson, Vicente ulloa offer all those three things, a real left footer at LCB . A creative player who can deliver from dead ball situations. And someone who can hold the ball up, get the free kicks for Vicente to deliver, add those three players to any side and it produces confidence.. Add a keeper at the top of his game, and you have a team hard to beat..
It's all about options and quality, upson, Vicente ulloa offer all those three things, a real left footer at LCB . A creative player who can deliver from dead ball situations. And someone who can hold the ball up, get the free kicks for Vicente to deliver, add those three players to any side and it produces confidence.. Add a keeper at the top of his game, and you have a team hard to beat.. mark by the sea
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1:51pm Mon 25 Feb 13

jcd1972 says...

WestStander17 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I am not sure that a team sheet tells us how our team are going to play, but it may tell us how we want to play, the opposition does have some say in our performance.

We have gone from a team that created many chances, but converted few, to one that creates fewer chances but converts more, as a percentage. Why is that?

Upson has arrived so he has contributed to our clean sheets, but that's not goal scoring. Ulloa has arrived, is he the reason, maybe. Perhaps it's the return of Vicente, but surely he would help create more chances not fewer. I could have said that it's down to the opposition, they have, 'worked us out,' but we don't play like we used to, Gus has gone more attacking.

Those that appear to have lost their form, Buckley and CMS, combined with Barnes missing three matches, Lua Lua no longer used as an impact sub and Crofts being ruled out, the absense of these players seems to coincide with our change in fortunes. Were these the guys that were creating all those chances but also failing to make the most of what they created?

Perhaps what we have today that we didn't have yesterday is composure, composure from the back right up to the front line. No more, 12 shots, 3 on target, so that must have been 12 chances created and 9 missed or wasted.
Perhaps the quality of those on the team sheet means that we will create less but what we do create will be of higher standard and the finishing becomes more clinical.

Something has changed and I can't put my finger on what it is but what ever it is, long may it last. I'll take Brighton 1 others 0 if that's what it takes to get us promoted.
Interesting post, Vegas.

Vicente possibly has an effect in that I believe he creates better chances. Just because his passes and crosses have that bit more quality to them. But, as you say, you would think he would also create more chances. However, we must have created loads against Blackburn, no?

We were never going to create hundreds against Cardiff but, playing on the break, possibly creates clearer chances?

Hull, just good defensively so, again, chances are bound to be less in number.

Thing is, a Vicente free-kick from within 25 yards suddenly becomes quite a good chance as opposed to someone else taking it. As do corners etc.
Two other things I can think of as well. More goals from midfield via the Spanish contingent. We were getting next to no goals from midfield earlier in the season. Hopefully also the ineptitude from dead ball situations has passed. We've now got good corner and free kick takers, a couple of tall players who can take advantage and best of all touch wood the last few penalties have been dispatched. We should really be chasing an automatic promotion place if penalties had been dispatched and late goals had been avoided.
[quote][p][bold]WestStander17[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I am not sure that a team sheet tells us how our team are going to play, but it may tell us how we want to play, the opposition does have some say in our performance. We have gone from a team that created many chances, but converted few, to one that creates fewer chances but converts more, as a percentage. Why is that? Upson has arrived so he has contributed to our clean sheets, but that's not goal scoring. Ulloa has arrived, is he the reason, maybe. Perhaps it's the return of Vicente, but surely he would help create more chances not fewer. I could have said that it's down to the opposition, they have, 'worked us out,' but we don't play like we used to, Gus has gone more attacking. Those that appear to have lost their form, Buckley and CMS, combined with Barnes missing three matches, Lua Lua no longer used as an impact sub and Crofts being ruled out, the absense of these players seems to coincide with our change in fortunes. Were these the guys that were creating all those chances but also failing to make the most of what they created? Perhaps what we have today that we didn't have yesterday is composure, composure from the back right up to the front line. No more, 12 shots, 3 on target, so that must have been 12 chances created and 9 missed or wasted. Perhaps the quality of those on the team sheet means that we will create less but what we do create will be of higher standard and the finishing becomes more clinical. Something has changed and I can't put my finger on what it is but what ever it is, long may it last. I'll take Brighton 1 others 0 if that's what it takes to get us promoted.[/p][/quote]Interesting post, Vegas. Vicente possibly has an effect in that I believe he creates better chances. Just because his passes and crosses have that bit more quality to them. But, as you say, you would think he would also create more chances. However, we must have created loads against Blackburn, no? We were never going to create hundreds against Cardiff but, playing on the break, possibly creates clearer chances? Hull, just good defensively so, again, chances are bound to be less in number. Thing is, a Vicente free-kick from within 25 yards suddenly becomes quite a good chance as opposed to someone else taking it. As do corners etc.[/p][/quote]Two other things I can think of as well. More goals from midfield via the Spanish contingent. We were getting next to no goals from midfield earlier in the season. Hopefully also the ineptitude from dead ball situations has passed. We've now got good corner and free kick takers, a couple of tall players who can take advantage and best of all touch wood the last few penalties have been dispatched. We should really be chasing an automatic promotion place if penalties had been dispatched and late goals had been avoided. jcd1972
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2:02pm Mon 25 Feb 13

VegasSeagull says...

WestStander, I agree with your comments re Blackburn, Hull and Cardiff, they were always going to be good hard matches.

My hope is that Buckley can find his form again and I am wondering where Upson's performances leaves Greer. I can see no reason to drop Upson based on performances but Greer is a very good captain and for the most part leads by example.

The only way you could use both would be to have Upson fill in for Bridcutt, if he can even play that role, and then have Greer in for Upson. That said, Dicker did what was asked of him so should he not carry on.
WestStander, I agree with your comments re Blackburn, Hull and Cardiff, they were always going to be good hard matches. My hope is that Buckley can find his form again and I am wondering where Upson's performances leaves Greer. I can see no reason to drop Upson based on performances but Greer is a very good captain and for the most part leads by example. The only way you could use both would be to have Upson fill in for Bridcutt, if he can even play that role, and then have Greer in for Upson. That said, Dicker did what was asked of him so should he not carry on. VegasSeagull
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2:38pm Mon 25 Feb 13

jonsyl says...

Well done mr poyet and the whole squad you are heading in the right direction so don't change anything. Stay positive and do your best. All the fans are behind you including me from so far away. It's very exciting to be able to watch some of your games on tv here in south africa and the new stadium is absolutely magnificent.
I look forward to seeing you in the play offs.
Well done mr poyet and the whole squad you are heading in the right direction so don't change anything. Stay positive and do your best. All the fans are behind you including me from so far away. It's very exciting to be able to watch some of your games on tv here in south africa and the new stadium is absolutely magnificent. I look forward to seeing you in the play offs. jonsyl
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3:07pm Mon 25 Feb 13

WisdomSpeaks says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I am not sure that a team sheet tells us how our team are going to play, but it may tell us how we want to play, the opposition does have some say in our performance.

We have gone from a team that created many chances, but converted few, to one that creates fewer chances but converts more, as a percentage. Why is that?

Upson has arrived so he has contributed to our clean sheets, but that's not goal scoring. Ulloa has arrived, is he the reason, maybe. Perhaps it's the return of Vicente, but surely he would help create more chances not fewer. I could have said that it's down to the opposition, they have, 'worked us out,' but we don't play like we used to, Gus has gone more attacking.

Those that appear to have lost their form, Buckley and CMS, combined with Barnes missing three matches, Lua Lua no longer used as an impact sub and Crofts being ruled out, the absense of these players seems to coincide with our change in fortunes. Were these the guys that were creating all those chances but also failing to make the most of what they created?

Perhaps what we have today that we didn't have yesterday is composure, composure from the back right up to the front line. No more, 12 shots, 3 on target, so that must have been 12 chances created and 9 missed or wasted.
Perhaps the quality of those on the team sheet means that we will create less but what we do create will be of higher standard and the finishing becomes more clinical.

Something has changed and I can't put my finger on what it is but what ever it is, long may it last. I'll take Brighton 1 others 0 if that's what it takes to get us promoted.
Very interesting points Vegas. If I might say I have a hunch that the biggest thing that I sense is a shift in BELIEF. Has anyone else noticed that many of these players are now openly coming out and saying 'Yeah of course we can make the play offs (at least)' and now for the first time Gus is saying the same thing which warms my heart big time.

Many people rubbish the power of the mind and thoughts and beliefs but I know that its there where everything starts. Bill Shankly used to line up Subbuteo pieces on a table in the dressing room and go through the opposing team rubbishing each and everyone of them - even Best, Law and Charlton and his final act was to sweep them all off the table in front of his team just before they went out.

Result was Liverpool felt 10 feet tall and went out and performed like giants. I think there's too much 'talking up' the opposition which can create a fear in players' minds before they even start.

Most people now understand the concept that our beliefs create our reality and great coaches work on impressing positive beliefs into the minds of the players. That's why I admit I was so upset when Gus came out publicly last year and this year to announce that the team were not good enough to get promoted when we were, at the time, in promotion positions on both occasions.I was also concerned that Gus claimed that we should focus on how much better we are now than last year.

Anyway, I do think that the shift in belief has had a lot to do with our climb and, personally, I keep open to the possibility that we can get 2nd spot. After all, win our game in hand and we are then only 7 points behind Watford!

Keep positive Gus - keep choosing the most attacking team as it's always the best form of defence.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I am not sure that a team sheet tells us how our team are going to play, but it may tell us how we want to play, the opposition does have some say in our performance. We have gone from a team that created many chances, but converted few, to one that creates fewer chances but converts more, as a percentage. Why is that? Upson has arrived so he has contributed to our clean sheets, but that's not goal scoring. Ulloa has arrived, is he the reason, maybe. Perhaps it's the return of Vicente, but surely he would help create more chances not fewer. I could have said that it's down to the opposition, they have, 'worked us out,' but we don't play like we used to, Gus has gone more attacking. Those that appear to have lost their form, Buckley and CMS, combined with Barnes missing three matches, Lua Lua no longer used as an impact sub and Crofts being ruled out, the absense of these players seems to coincide with our change in fortunes. Were these the guys that were creating all those chances but also failing to make the most of what they created? Perhaps what we have today that we didn't have yesterday is composure, composure from the back right up to the front line. No more, 12 shots, 3 on target, so that must have been 12 chances created and 9 missed or wasted. Perhaps the quality of those on the team sheet means that we will create less but what we do create will be of higher standard and the finishing becomes more clinical. Something has changed and I can't put my finger on what it is but what ever it is, long may it last. I'll take Brighton 1 others 0 if that's what it takes to get us promoted.[/p][/quote]Very interesting points Vegas. If I might say I have a hunch that the biggest thing that I sense is a shift in BELIEF. Has anyone else noticed that many of these players are now openly coming out and saying 'Yeah of course we can make the play offs (at least)' and now for the first time Gus is saying the same thing which warms my heart big time. Many people rubbish the power of the mind and thoughts and beliefs but I know that its there where everything starts. Bill Shankly used to line up Subbuteo pieces on a table in the dressing room and go through the opposing team rubbishing each and everyone of them - even Best, Law and Charlton and his final act was to sweep them all off the table in front of his team just before they went out. Result was Liverpool felt 10 feet tall and went out and performed like giants. I think there's too much 'talking up' the opposition which can create a fear in players' minds before they even start. Most people now understand the concept that our beliefs create our reality and great coaches work on impressing positive beliefs into the minds of the players. That's why I admit I was so upset when Gus came out publicly last year and this year to announce that the team were not good enough to get promoted when we were, at the time, in promotion positions on both occasions.I was also concerned that Gus claimed that we should focus on how much better we are now than last year. Anyway, I do think that the shift in belief has had a lot to do with our climb and, personally, I keep open to the possibility that we can get 2nd spot. After all, win our game in hand and we are then only 7 points behind Watford! Keep positive Gus - keep choosing the most attacking team as it's always the best form of defence. WisdomSpeaks
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3:30pm Mon 25 Feb 13

mark by the sea says...

WisdomSpeaks wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I am not sure that a team sheet tells us how our team are going to play, but it may tell us how we want to play, the opposition does have some say in our performance.

We have gone from a team that created many chances, but converted few, to one that creates fewer chances but converts more, as a percentage. Why is that?

Upson has arrived so he has contributed to our clean sheets, but that's not goal scoring. Ulloa has arrived, is he the reason, maybe. Perhaps it's the return of Vicente, but surely he would help create more chances not fewer. I could have said that it's down to the opposition, they have, 'worked us out,' but we don't play like we used to, Gus has gone more attacking.

Those that appear to have lost their form, Buckley and CMS, combined with Barnes missing three matches, Lua Lua no longer used as an impact sub and Crofts being ruled out, the absense of these players seems to coincide with our change in fortunes. Were these the guys that were creating all those chances but also failing to make the most of what they created?

Perhaps what we have today that we didn't have yesterday is composure, composure from the back right up to the front line. No more, 12 shots, 3 on target, so that must have been 12 chances created and 9 missed or wasted.
Perhaps the quality of those on the team sheet means that we will create less but what we do create will be of higher standard and the finishing becomes more clinical.

Something has changed and I can't put my finger on what it is but what ever it is, long may it last. I'll take Brighton 1 others 0 if that's what it takes to get us promoted.
Very interesting points Vegas. If I might say I have a hunch that the biggest thing that I sense is a shift in BELIEF. Has anyone else noticed that many of these players are now openly coming out and saying 'Yeah of course we can make the play offs (at least)' and now for the first time Gus is saying the same thing which warms my heart big time.

Many people rubbish the power of the mind and thoughts and beliefs but I know that its there where everything starts. Bill Shankly used to line up Subbuteo pieces on a table in the dressing room and go through the opposing team rubbishing each and everyone of them - even Best, Law and Charlton and his final act was to sweep them all off the table in front of his team just before they went out.

Result was Liverpool felt 10 feet tall and went out and performed like giants. I think there's too much 'talking up' the opposition which can create a fear in players' minds before they even start.

Most people now understand the concept that our beliefs create our reality and great coaches work on impressing positive beliefs into the minds of the players. That's why I admit I was so upset when Gus came out publicly last year and this year to announce that the team were not good enough to get promoted when we were, at the time, in promotion positions on both occasions.I was also concerned that Gus claimed that we should focus on how much better we are now than last year.

Anyway, I do think that the shift in belief has had a lot to do with our climb and, personally, I keep open to the possibility that we can get 2nd spot. After all, win our game in hand and we are then only 7 points behind Watford!

Keep positive Gus - keep choosing the most attacking team as it's always the best form of defence.
Absolutely confidence is the key, that's why we should all try and support them more, make more noise at the Amex, the vocal support has dropped ..
Players can see the quality, upson bridge Vicente bridcutt, TK .. That's 5 quality players .. Who all seem to be hitting form, remember ulloa has not played this season till he arrived... He will come good very very soon.
I remember lots of calls for Gus to be sacked about 5 weeks ago. Palace in the play offs!
[quote][p][bold]WisdomSpeaks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I am not sure that a team sheet tells us how our team are going to play, but it may tell us how we want to play, the opposition does have some say in our performance. We have gone from a team that created many chances, but converted few, to one that creates fewer chances but converts more, as a percentage. Why is that? Upson has arrived so he has contributed to our clean sheets, but that's not goal scoring. Ulloa has arrived, is he the reason, maybe. Perhaps it's the return of Vicente, but surely he would help create more chances not fewer. I could have said that it's down to the opposition, they have, 'worked us out,' but we don't play like we used to, Gus has gone more attacking. Those that appear to have lost their form, Buckley and CMS, combined with Barnes missing three matches, Lua Lua no longer used as an impact sub and Crofts being ruled out, the absense of these players seems to coincide with our change in fortunes. Were these the guys that were creating all those chances but also failing to make the most of what they created? Perhaps what we have today that we didn't have yesterday is composure, composure from the back right up to the front line. No more, 12 shots, 3 on target, so that must have been 12 chances created and 9 missed or wasted. Perhaps the quality of those on the team sheet means that we will create less but what we do create will be of higher standard and the finishing becomes more clinical. Something has changed and I can't put my finger on what it is but what ever it is, long may it last. I'll take Brighton 1 others 0 if that's what it takes to get us promoted.[/p][/quote]Very interesting points Vegas. If I might say I have a hunch that the biggest thing that I sense is a shift in BELIEF. Has anyone else noticed that many of these players are now openly coming out and saying 'Yeah of course we can make the play offs (at least)' and now for the first time Gus is saying the same thing which warms my heart big time. Many people rubbish the power of the mind and thoughts and beliefs but I know that its there where everything starts. Bill Shankly used to line up Subbuteo pieces on a table in the dressing room and go through the opposing team rubbishing each and everyone of them - even Best, Law and Charlton and his final act was to sweep them all off the table in front of his team just before they went out. Result was Liverpool felt 10 feet tall and went out and performed like giants. I think there's too much 'talking up' the opposition which can create a fear in players' minds before they even start. Most people now understand the concept that our beliefs create our reality and great coaches work on impressing positive beliefs into the minds of the players. That's why I admit I was so upset when Gus came out publicly last year and this year to announce that the team were not good enough to get promoted when we were, at the time, in promotion positions on both occasions.I was also concerned that Gus claimed that we should focus on how much better we are now than last year. Anyway, I do think that the shift in belief has had a lot to do with our climb and, personally, I keep open to the possibility that we can get 2nd spot. After all, win our game in hand and we are then only 7 points behind Watford! Keep positive Gus - keep choosing the most attacking team as it's always the best form of defence.[/p][/quote]Absolutely confidence is the key, that's why we should all try and support them more, make more noise at the Amex, the vocal support has dropped .. Players can see the quality, upson bridge Vicente bridcutt, TK .. That's 5 quality players .. Who all seem to be hitting form, remember ulloa has not played this season till he arrived... He will come good very very soon. I remember lots of calls for Gus to be sacked about 5 weeks ago. Palace in the play offs! mark by the sea
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3:34pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

Interesting stuff, Wisdom, but I wouldn't get too caught up with what Gus says in public - it probably bears little resemblance to what he says to the players in the dressing room/training ground.
Interesting stuff, Wisdom, but I wouldn't get too caught up with what Gus says in public - it probably bears little resemblance to what he says to the players in the dressing room/training ground. Old Scrote of the Amex
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3:36pm Mon 25 Feb 13

Old Scrote of the Amex says...

And Mark, there were no SERIOUS calls for Gus's dismissal on here, only the usual trolls and WUMs - and they are only ever vocal after a bad result or two. It's been lovely on here for the past week :-D
And Mark, there were no SERIOUS calls for Gus's dismissal on here, only the usual trolls and WUMs - and they are only ever vocal after a bad result or two. It's been lovely on here for the past week :-D Old Scrote of the Amex
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4:01pm Mon 25 Feb 13

mark by the sea says...

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
And Mark, there were no SERIOUS calls for Gus's dismissal on here, only the usual trolls and WUMs - and they are only ever vocal after a bad result or two. It's been lovely on here for the past week :-D
I should have kept a list..!
[quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: And Mark, there were no SERIOUS calls for Gus's dismissal on here, only the usual trolls and WUMs - and they are only ever vocal after a bad result or two. It's been lovely on here for the past week :-D[/p][/quote]I should have kept a list..! mark by the sea
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4:02pm Mon 25 Feb 13

WisdomSpeaks says...

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
Interesting stuff, Wisdom, but I wouldn't get too caught up with what Gus says in public - it probably bears little resemblance to what he says to the players in the dressing room/training ground.
Good point - Thanks for the reminder I'll take that onboard and hope that's right. I'm just a great believer in always aiming for the stars and being unafraid of not making it! I also agree with a previous poster about the crowd.

Would be great to hear everyone in full voice as one with no need to 'hate' anyone, including Palace, the ref, opposing fans etc. What goes out ALWAYS comes back - maybe not from the same source or in the same time - but it has to return sooner or later!
[quote][p][bold]Old Scrote of the Amex[/bold] wrote: Interesting stuff, Wisdom, but I wouldn't get too caught up with what Gus says in public - it probably bears little resemblance to what he says to the players in the dressing room/training ground.[/p][/quote]Good point - Thanks for the reminder I'll take that onboard and hope that's right. I'm just a great believer in always aiming for the stars and being unafraid of not making it! I also agree with a previous poster about the crowd. Would be great to hear everyone in full voice as one with no need to 'hate' anyone, including Palace, the ref, opposing fans etc. What goes out ALWAYS comes back - maybe not from the same source or in the same time - but it has to return sooner or later! WisdomSpeaks
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4:11pm Mon 25 Feb 13

VegasSeagull says...

Well to those that have commented on my long winded comment, thanks, you have expanded the debate.

If confidence is the ingredient that was missing it must have applied most to our finishing as we clearly had the confidence to create chances. I don't think we lacked the confidence to go forward, I think possibly those with a chance to strike maybe were laying it off too many times, passing the responsibility along with the ball and that, is a loss in one's own confidence.

If confidence was the issue before the january window just look at those who we know didn't have a confidence issue. Bridcutt, Bridge, Greer, El-Abd, TK, and Bruno, all were on their game, maybe even add Buckley to the list.

Those that a lack of confidence might apply to would be who? Not Barnes, maybe something else for him, maybe CMS losing confidence affected Barnes.
Hammond, maybe but his game seemed to go down when played along side Crofts. Dobbie, nah he just seemed to lack interest. David, to my mind he was looking to cement his place in the starting line up, his role was a tad undefined.

I think some of our, pre-good form run issues, lie with Gus. I would substitute the word, 'confidence,' and replace it with, frustration. Some of our players are now performing in a way that Gus had not allowed them too.
I think the players knew they could do better if the line up an approach allowed them to. What Gus calls, 'taking risks,' is no more than taking off some of the restraints he has imposed on his team.
The return of Vicente has forced Gus to adapt his tactics to get the best our of him and by doing so, he is now getting the best out of the rest. The frustration has deminshed and has been replaced with, confidence.

Had not Vicente been out for so long I think Gus would have had the team play just as they are today, only it wouldn't have been called a risk.

Perhaps the ingredient I couldn't nail down was Vicente.
Well to those that have commented on my long winded comment, thanks, you have expanded the debate. If confidence is the ingredient that was missing it must have applied most to our finishing as we clearly had the confidence to create chances. I don't think we lacked the confidence to go forward, I think possibly those with a chance to strike maybe were laying it off too many times, passing the responsibility along with the ball and that, is a loss in one's own confidence. If confidence was the issue before the january window just look at those who we know didn't have a confidence issue. Bridcutt, Bridge, Greer, El-Abd, TK, and Bruno, all were on their game, maybe even add Buckley to the list. Those that a lack of confidence might apply to would be who? Not Barnes, maybe something else for him, maybe CMS losing confidence affected Barnes. Hammond, maybe but his game seemed to go down when played along side Crofts. Dobbie, nah he just seemed to lack interest. David, to my mind he was looking to cement his place in the starting line up, his role was a tad undefined. I think some of our, pre-good form run issues, lie with Gus. I would substitute the word, 'confidence,' and replace it with, frustration. Some of our players are now performing in a way that Gus had not allowed them too. I think the players knew they could do better if the line up an approach allowed them to. What Gus calls, 'taking risks,' is no more than taking off some of the restraints he has imposed on his team. The return of Vicente has forced Gus to adapt his tactics to get the best our of him and by doing so, he is now getting the best out of the rest. The frustration has deminshed and has been replaced with, confidence. Had not Vicente been out for so long I think Gus would have had the team play just as they are today, only it wouldn't have been called a risk. Perhaps the ingredient I couldn't nail down was Vicente. VegasSeagull
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4:12pm Mon 25 Feb 13

ballantrrae says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I am not sure that a team sheet tells us how our team are going to play, but it may tell us how we want to play, the opposition does have some say in our performance.

We have gone from a team that created many chances, but converted few, to one that creates fewer chances but converts more, as a percentage. Why is that?

Upson has arrived so he has contributed to our clean sheets, but that's not goal scoring. Ulloa has arrived, is he the reason, maybe. Perhaps it's the return of Vicente, but surely he would help create more chances not fewer. I could have said that it's down to the opposition, they have, 'worked us out,' but we don't play like we used to, Gus has gone more attacking.

Those that appear to have lost their form, Buckley and CMS, combined with Barnes missing three matches, Lua Lua no longer used as an impact sub and Crofts being ruled out, the absense of these players seems to coincide with our change in fortunes. Were these the guys that were creating all those chances but also failing to make the most of what they created?

Perhaps what we have today that we didn't have yesterday is composure, composure from the back right up to the front line. No more, 12 shots, 3 on target, so that must have been 12 chances created and 9 missed or wasted.
Perhaps the quality of those on the team sheet means that we will create less but what we do create will be of higher standard and the finishing becomes more clinical.

Something has changed and I can't put my finger on what it is but what ever it is, long may it last. I'll take Brighton 1 others 0 if that's what it takes to get us promoted.
VegasSeagull the one thing I've noticed is that we have had less possession recently.
Against Blackburn we had somewhere aproaching 65%, against Cardiff it was aout 42% and on Saturday 50% although it seemed less.
When we dominate possession teams just sit back and pack the defence. However when we don't the opposition press forward providing more space in the last 1/3rd for our attackers to exploit. With people like Lopez, Vicente and Orlandi we see better able to take advantage of this by counter attacking quickly and accurately.
I don't imagine you were able Vegas to see the Scotland v Ireland Rugby match yesterday but Scotland only had 29% possession yet somehow managed to win.
This illustrates the fact that if a game is too one sided you can get a strange result. The Chelsea v Barcelona games last season in the Champions league are further examples of this happening.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I am not sure that a team sheet tells us how our team are going to play, but it may tell us how we want to play, the opposition does have some say in our performance. We have gone from a team that created many chances, but converted few, to one that creates fewer chances but converts more, as a percentage. Why is that? Upson has arrived so he has contributed to our clean sheets, but that's not goal scoring. Ulloa has arrived, is he the reason, maybe. Perhaps it's the return of Vicente, but surely he would help create more chances not fewer. I could have said that it's down to the opposition, they have, 'worked us out,' but we don't play like we used to, Gus has gone more attacking. Those that appear to have lost their form, Buckley and CMS, combined with Barnes missing three matches, Lua Lua no longer used as an impact sub and Crofts being ruled out, the absense of these players seems to coincide with our change in fortunes. Were these the guys that were creating all those chances but also failing to make the most of what they created? Perhaps what we have today that we didn't have yesterday is composure, composure from the back right up to the front line. No more, 12 shots, 3 on target, so that must have been 12 chances created and 9 missed or wasted. Perhaps the quality of those on the team sheet means that we will create less but what we do create will be of higher standard and the finishing becomes more clinical. Something has changed and I can't put my finger on what it is but what ever it is, long may it last. I'll take Brighton 1 others 0 if that's what it takes to get us promoted.[/p][/quote]VegasSeagull the one thing I've noticed is that we have had less possession recently. Against Blackburn we had somewhere aproaching 65%, against Cardiff it was aout 42% and on Saturday 50% although it seemed less. When we dominate possession teams just sit back and pack the defence. However when we don't the opposition press forward providing more space in the last 1/3rd for our attackers to exploit. With people like Lopez, Vicente and Orlandi we see better able to take advantage of this by counter attacking quickly and accurately. I don't imagine you were able Vegas to see the Scotland v Ireland Rugby match yesterday but Scotland only had 29% possession yet somehow managed to win. This illustrates the fact that if a game is too one sided you can get a strange result. The Chelsea v Barcelona games last season in the Champions league are further examples of this happening. ballantrrae
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4:27pm Mon 25 Feb 13

mark by the sea says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Well to those that have commented on my long winded comment, thanks, you have expanded the debate.

If confidence is the ingredient that was missing it must have applied most to our finishing as we clearly had the confidence to create chances. I don't think we lacked the confidence to go forward, I think possibly those with a chance to strike maybe were laying it off too many times, passing the responsibility along with the ball and that, is a loss in one's own confidence.

If confidence was the issue before the january window just look at those who we know didn't have a confidence issue. Bridcutt, Bridge, Greer, El-Abd, TK, and Bruno, all were on their game, maybe even add Buckley to the list.

Those that a lack of confidence might apply to would be who? Not Barnes, maybe something else for him, maybe CMS losing confidence affected Barnes.
Hammond, maybe but his game seemed to go down when played along side Crofts. Dobbie, nah he just seemed to lack interest. David, to my mind he was looking to cement his place in the starting line up, his role was a tad undefined.

I think some of our, pre-good form run issues, lie with Gus. I would substitute the word, 'confidence,' and replace it with, frustration. Some of our players are now performing in a way that Gus had not allowed them too.
I think the players knew they could do better if the line up an approach allowed them to. What Gus calls, 'taking risks,' is no more than taking off some of the restraints he has imposed on his team.
The return of Vicente has forced Gus to adapt his tactics to get the best our of him and by doing so, he is now getting the best out of the rest. The frustration has deminshed and has been replaced with, confidence.

Had not Vicente been out for so long I think Gus would have had the team play just as they are today, only it wouldn't have been called a risk.

Perhaps the ingredient I couldn't nail down was Vicente.
Confidence comes from winning, and having the belief in yourself and others, TK in last month has really hit form, bridge has got better and better as he has improved his fitness.
The midfield pre Spain influence has lacked goals .. We now have three goal scorers adding the threat..
I would imagine playing well but missing chance after chance must effect team moral?
Whatever has changed, I personally think our tempo has gone up a notch, where we don't keep the ball without moving forward..
The arrival of upson has I also believe not been stated just how good he is, again give him two or three more games to get up to full speed and he will be a massive signing.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: Well to those that have commented on my long winded comment, thanks, you have expanded the debate. If confidence is the ingredient that was missing it must have applied most to our finishing as we clearly had the confidence to create chances. I don't think we lacked the confidence to go forward, I think possibly those with a chance to strike maybe were laying it off too many times, passing the responsibility along with the ball and that, is a loss in one's own confidence. If confidence was the issue before the january window just look at those who we know didn't have a confidence issue. Bridcutt, Bridge, Greer, El-Abd, TK, and Bruno, all were on their game, maybe even add Buckley to the list. Those that a lack of confidence might apply to would be who? Not Barnes, maybe something else for him, maybe CMS losing confidence affected Barnes. Hammond, maybe but his game seemed to go down when played along side Crofts. Dobbie, nah he just seemed to lack interest. David, to my mind he was looking to cement his place in the starting line up, his role was a tad undefined. I think some of our, pre-good form run issues, lie with Gus. I would substitute the word, 'confidence,' and replace it with, frustration. Some of our players are now performing in a way that Gus had not allowed them too. I think the players knew they could do better if the line up an approach allowed them to. What Gus calls, 'taking risks,' is no more than taking off some of the restraints he has imposed on his team. The return of Vicente has forced Gus to adapt his tactics to get the best our of him and by doing so, he is now getting the best out of the rest. The frustration has deminshed and has been replaced with, confidence. Had not Vicente been out for so long I think Gus would have had the team play just as they are today, only it wouldn't have been called a risk. Perhaps the ingredient I couldn't nail down was Vicente.[/p][/quote]Confidence comes from winning, and having the belief in yourself and others, TK in last month has really hit form, bridge has got better and better as he has improved his fitness. The midfield pre Spain influence has lacked goals .. We now have three goal scorers adding the threat.. I would imagine playing well but missing chance after chance must effect team moral? Whatever has changed, I personally think our tempo has gone up a notch, where we don't keep the ball without moving forward.. The arrival of upson has I also believe not been stated just how good he is, again give him two or three more games to get up to full speed and he will be a massive signing. mark by the sea
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5:09pm Mon 25 Feb 13

VegasSeagull says...

Ballantrrae, yes I have noticed the possesion percentage drop too. If we play more open we lose some posession time but as you say, we gain more room in the final third.

It's that age old problem of balance isn't it.

Mark, yes confidence does come from winning. My original question still remains, what was it that changed to start us off on this winning run that is now producing confidence.

What and when Mark, in your HO.
Ballantrrae, yes I have noticed the possesion percentage drop too. If we play more open we lose some posession time but as you say, we gain more room in the final third. It's that age old problem of balance isn't it. Mark, yes confidence does come from winning. My original question still remains, what was it that changed to start us off on this winning run that is now producing confidence. What and when Mark, in your HO. VegasSeagull
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6:26pm Mon 25 Feb 13

VegasSeagull says...

Palace have a road trip to the Amex coming up, I doubt that they are looking forward to it.

Palace have to look back to last November against Peterborough for their last road trip win.

Of course playing Brighton anywhere is always going to give Palace a lift, just as we hope it does us but even that might not be enough.

To be very honest I have this game down as a loss but nothing would give me more pleasure than to be wrong. Perhaps, giving our recent form and the fact that Palace continue struggle away from home I will revise my list of predictions and mark this game down as a score draw.
Palace have a road trip to the Amex coming up, I doubt that they are looking forward to it. Palace have to look back to last November against Peterborough for their last road trip win. Of course playing Brighton anywhere is always going to give Palace a lift, just as we hope it does us but even that might not be enough. To be very honest I have this game down as a loss but nothing would give me more pleasure than to be wrong. Perhaps, giving our recent form and the fact that Palace continue struggle away from home I will revise my list of predictions and mark this game down as a score draw. VegasSeagull
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