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Albion fear CMS out for season
10:01pm Tuesday 5th March 2013 in Sport
CMS is helped off at Ashton Gate (photo Simon Dack)
Albion fear Craig Mackail-Smith could be ruled out for the rest of the season.
The striker went off just before half-time of tonight's goalless draw with Bristol City with what is believed to be a ruptured Achilles.
Mackail-Smith, preferred in the starting line-up to a jaded Leo Ulloa, lost his footing as he turned past an opponent.
Manager Gus Poyet said: "It could be a serious Achilles injury. I think he could be three months so this season is probably over. The doctor knows and he is 99.9% sure he is out for the rest of the season."
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The Phantom
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10:10pm Tue 5 Mar 13
Willie, Willie Irvine
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10:13pm Tue 5 Mar 13
Far gull
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10:14pm Tue 5 Mar 13
Is the loan window still open? If not youth are either going to get their chance or midfield really are going to have to get forward.
Think we missed forward runs of Bridge on Saturday and result flattered us a bit, sounds like he was sorely missed tonight.
Far gull
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10:16pm Tue 5 Mar 13
GosportGull
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10:19pm Tue 5 Mar 13
Feel sorry for CMS..hope he recovers well and is back along with Will Hoskins fighting fit for next season in the Premiership ;)
Good job we have Ulloa , hes a quality striker ,with lots more goals to come from him :)
VegasSeagull
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10:21pm Tue 5 Mar 13
My thinking was that if we brought in one striker but them lost one to injury, we would have back to where we started. To date we appear to have lost two strikers for the rest of the season and now we have a problem..
Our strike force has now been reduced to Ulloa and a converted utility player, Barnes. Does Poyet now go for aloan deal or do we rely on the development squad to bail us out.
Ulloa needed a rest tonight, he got half of one. He will need further resting, who replaces him.
tonytowner1
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10:22pm Tue 5 Mar 13
ballantrrae
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10:22pm Tue 5 Mar 13
With CMS and Hoskins out for sometime, probably for the rest of the season, and Barnes reportedly ill we really are short of options.
Poyet is going to have to move sharply to acquire at least one if not two strikers. Indeed one needs to be recruited in time for the Bolton game. With Poyet 'resting' Ulloa on the bench it is clear Poyet wants to keep him relatively fresh. Since Ulloa is currently the only striker still 'standing' that is going to be impossible unless other forwards are brought in.
The next couple of days could determine the Albion's season.
What rotten luck for CMS and for BHA.
Now we will see if we can overcome adversity.
pablobrowno
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10:26pm Tue 5 Mar 13
GosportGull wrote:Because if we are seriously aiming reach the play offs then unproven development squad strikers will not cut it! We tried that back in the withdean days!!
What about Toby or Barker ... why does it have to be a loan , give the young lads a chance ..failing that Buckley can play up front and if we really have to , we can use Barnes ...
Feel sorry for CMS..hope he recovers well and is back along with Will Hoskins fighting fit for next season in the Premiership ;)
Good job we have Ulloa , hes a quality striker ,with lots more goals to come from him :)
This is really bad news. Cms may not have brought goals often but was a real thorn in defender's sides. Unbelievable, letting Dobbie go to Palace not looking too clever now!!!! Poyet may not be complaining about the loan system too much now!!!
Willie, Willie Irvine
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10:29pm Tue 5 Mar 13
The Phantom
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10:30pm Tue 5 Mar 13
VegasSeagull
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10:36pm Tue 5 Mar 13
This kid is going to break into Liverpool's first team, it might even be before the end of the season.
He is young but highly thought of.
Eddy B
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10:45pm Tue 5 Mar 13
GosportGull wrote:Agree, give the squadies a chance (if not good enough should they be in our squad anyway?). In any case neither CMS or Hoskins were first choices in the 1 striker system and we still have Barnes and Lua Lua for back up. No need to panic
What about Toby or Barker ... why does it have to be a loan , give the young lads a chance ..failing that Buckley can play up front and if we really have to , we can use Barnes ...
Feel sorry for CMS..hope he recovers well and is back along with Will Hoskins fighting fit for next season in the Premiership ;)
Good job we have Ulloa , hes a quality striker ,with lots more goals to come from him :)
bruce beckett
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10:51pm Tue 5 Mar 13
Okay, so CMS had fresh legs, but I'm not sure "jaded" is an adjective I'd use to describe a player who has just bagged a hat-trick.
What rotten luck for both the players and the club that we have lost both Hoskins and CMS to serious injuries in the space of a couple of weeks.
Wish we had kept Dobbie now but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
PressBoxTeaBoy
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10:52pm Tue 5 Mar 13
Lua Lua for Buckley perhaps, Forster Caskey for Orlandi perhaps, surely something rather than nothing to try and break it open.
Disappointed in Gus tonight more than anything on the playing side. We missed the opportunity to open a 4 point gap with a game in hand on the team in 7th after several results above us went our way. Instead we hane on in 6th with several teams breathing down out necks.
Sorry Gus, you have to be more prepared to go after the win, especially against teams at the bottom end.
PressBoxTeaBoy
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10:55pm Tue 5 Mar 13
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:PS- we had only 33% of the possession with 0 shots on goal or on target. Is that really an ambitious tactic. You wont find stats that bad in any other game played tonight. Dismal !
Somewhat baffled why Gus didnt use his bench other than to replace the injured CMS on 42 mins. With two more games to come in a week and lacking any cutting thrust tonight, why wouldnt you stick some fresh legs out there, and also save some tired legs that were alredy out there. I think we lacked the ambition to go for the win and were scared to take risks, and that will haunt us come seasons end, we cant keep drawing these tight games, we need wins. A week ago Gus professed to being prepared to take those risks to go for points.
Lua Lua for Buckley perhaps, Forster Caskey for Orlandi perhaps, surely something rather than nothing to try and break it open.
Disappointed in Gus tonight more than anything on the playing side. We missed the opportunity to open a 4 point gap with a game in hand on the team in 7th after several results above us went our way. Instead we hane on in 6th with several teams breathing down out necks.
Sorry Gus, you have to be more prepared to go after the win, especially against teams at the bottom end.
Godstone Gull
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11:01pm Tue 5 Mar 13
rolivan
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11:04pm Tue 5 Mar 13
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:Well Leicester only managed a draw and Middlesbro Lost thats a good enough Stat for me and we have opened the gap to 7th and have a game in hand these are the stats that count
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:PS- we had only 33% of the possession with 0 shots on goal or on target. Is that really an ambitious tactic. You wont find stats that bad in any other game played tonight. Dismal !
Somewhat baffled why Gus didnt use his bench other than to replace the injured CMS on 42 mins. With two more games to come in a week and lacking any cutting thrust tonight, why wouldnt you stick some fresh legs out there, and also save some tired legs that were alredy out there. I think we lacked the ambition to go for the win and were scared to take risks, and that will haunt us come seasons end, we cant keep drawing these tight games, we need wins. A week ago Gus professed to being prepared to take those risks to go for points.
Lua Lua for Buckley perhaps, Forster Caskey for Orlandi perhaps, surely something rather than nothing to try and break it open.
Disappointed in Gus tonight more than anything on the playing side. We missed the opportunity to open a 4 point gap with a game in hand on the team in 7th after several results above us went our way. Instead we hane on in 6th with several teams breathing down out necks.
Sorry Gus, you have to be more prepared to go after the win, especially against teams at the bottom end.
Dr Baldhead
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11:08pm Tue 5 Mar 13
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:I was going to post something similar but you've echoed my thoughts perfectly. Agree with this 100%
Somewhat baffled why Gus didnt use his bench other than to replace the injured CMS on 42 mins. With two more games to come in a week and lacking any cutting thrust tonight, why wouldnt you stick some fresh legs out there, and also save some tired legs that were alredy out there. I think we lacked the ambition to go for the win and were scared to take risks, and that will haunt us come seasons end, we cant keep drawing these tight games, we need wins. A week ago Gus professed to being prepared to take those risks to go for points.
Lua Lua for Buckley perhaps, Forster Caskey for Orlandi perhaps, surely something rather than nothing to try and break it open.
Disappointed in Gus tonight more than anything on the playing side. We missed the opportunity to open a 4 point gap with a game in hand on the team in 7th after several results above us went our way. Instead we hane on in 6th with several teams breathing down out necks.
Sorry Gus, you have to be more prepared to go after the win, especially against teams at the bottom end.
Wiggsy
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11:09pm Tue 5 Mar 13
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:Bad day at the office granted, but its a clean sheet and point away from home so not exactly the end of the world (or even the season).
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:PS- we had only 33% of the possession with 0 shots on goal or on target. Is that really an ambitious tactic. You wont find stats that bad in any other game played tonight. Dismal !
Somewhat baffled why Gus didnt use his bench other than to replace the injured CMS on 42 mins. With two more games to come in a week and lacking any cutting thrust tonight, why wouldnt you stick some fresh legs out there, and also save some tired legs that were alredy out there. I think we lacked the ambition to go for the win and were scared to take risks, and that will haunt us come seasons end, we cant keep drawing these tight games, we need wins. A week ago Gus professed to being prepared to take those risks to go for points.
Lua Lua for Buckley perhaps, Forster Caskey for Orlandi perhaps, surely something rather than nothing to try and break it open.
Disappointed in Gus tonight more than anything on the playing side. We missed the opportunity to open a 4 point gap with a game in hand on the team in 7th after several results above us went our way. Instead we hane on in 6th with several teams breathing down out necks.
Sorry Gus, you have to be more prepared to go after the win, especially against teams at the bottom end.
Gazza by the sea
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11:38pm Tue 5 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex
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11:44pm Tue 5 Mar 13
ballantrrae
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11:46pm Tue 5 Mar 13
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:I have to agree with you PressBoxTeaBoy. Very disappointing not having any shots at all tonight.
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:PS- we had only 33% of the possession with 0 shots on goal or on target. Is that really an ambitious tactic. You wont find stats that bad in any other game played tonight. Dismal !
Somewhat baffled why Gus didnt use his bench other than to replace the injured CMS on 42 mins. With two more games to come in a week and lacking any cutting thrust tonight, why wouldnt you stick some fresh legs out there, and also save some tired legs that were alredy out there. I think we lacked the ambition to go for the win and were scared to take risks, and that will haunt us come seasons end, we cant keep drawing these tight games, we need wins. A week ago Gus professed to being prepared to take those risks to go for points.
Lua Lua for Buckley perhaps, Forster Caskey for Orlandi perhaps, surely something rather than nothing to try and break it open.
Disappointed in Gus tonight more than anything on the playing side. We missed the opportunity to open a 4 point gap with a game in hand on the team in 7th after several results above us went our way. Instead we hane on in 6th with several teams breathing down out necks.
Sorry Gus, you have to be more prepared to go after the win, especially against teams at the bottom end.
One thought, just how many of the squad have been affected by this virus that's being going around.
I'll be interested to see what Poyet has to say about the performance and the striker situation.
One question, are we able to recall Dobbie from Palace now that a month of his loan has elapsed ?
Chi Gull
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11:49pm Tue 5 Mar 13
Just let Gus do his job. He knows far better than any of us how to manage the team and get the best out of them! Of course it was an off day, and every team has them.
Gazza by the sea
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11:55pm Tue 5 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex
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11:59pm Tue 5 Mar 13
Gazza by the sea wrote:Yes, but a performance of this nature is still allowed! A team can't play at or near their best every single game without fail. I remember very recently when we were dreaming of only playing this badly!
Believe me Old Scrote - this was way beyond bad. If you'd told me they'd been drugged I would not be shocked.
And we got a point against a team who had won their last 4 home games, including Forest and Watford, the same Watford who beat us at the Amex. We had a better night than Middlesbrough, Hull, Leicester... I won't be losing any sleep over it, although I might over CMS's injury.
Gazza by the sea
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12:02am Wed 6 Mar 13
championshipgull
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12:04am Wed 6 Mar 13
PressBoxTeaBoy
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12:29am Wed 6 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Its not any bad performance Im complaining about, its poor managerial decisions of not using the bench when we SO badly needed to.
Blimey guys, it's like we're not allowed a bad performance every now and then!
If we're performing badly, you need to make changes and Gus chose to do nothing when he could have injected 2 fresh players. I personally find that very baffling when we have 33% possession and ZERO shots on target, or off target, or even a shot at the corner flag? Thats not an off day, that's bloody ridiculous for a team and a Manager claiming to be challenging for a top 6 spot and playing against the team bottom of the league.
Am I being unfair ? Your having a laugh !
rolivan
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12:57am Wed 6 Mar 13
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:The last time I looked we were in 6th not challenging for it.Who have Bristol C beat in their last 4 home Games? I seem to be smiling a lot recently its better than a laugh.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Its not any bad performance Im complaining about, its poor managerial decisions of not using the bench when we SO badly needed to.
Blimey guys, it's like we're not allowed a bad performance every now and then!
If we're performing badly, you need to make changes and Gus chose to do nothing when he could have injected 2 fresh players. I personally find that very baffling when we have 33% possession and ZERO shots on target, or off target, or even a shot at the corner flag? Thats not an off day, that's bloody ridiculous for a team and a Manager claiming to be challenging for a top 6 spot and playing against the team bottom of the league.
Am I being unfair ? Your having a laugh !
Freeloaders
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3:52am Wed 6 Mar 13
GosportGull wrote:LOL Getting paid to do nothing you mean.How can you really believe Hoskins & CMS are really prem-league strikers lol.Just think how slow Hoskins will be after this injury.A one Adam Hinshelwood proves my point.Anyway best of luck to CMS his a hard working player,even if i don't think his a top championship striker.Prem-league lol.
What about Toby or Barker ... why does it have to be a loan , give the young lads a chance ..failing that Buckley can play up front and if we really have to , we can use Barnes ...
Feel sorry for CMS..hope he recovers well and is back along with Will Hoskins fighting fit for next season in the Premiership ;)
Good job we have Ulloa , hes a quality striker ,with lots more goals to come from him :)
Freeloaders
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4:14am Wed 6 Mar 13
Wiggsy
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6:30am Wed 6 Mar 13
Gazza by the sea wrote:Arsenal seem to be doing a good job of the consistant poor performances this season yet remain top 4/5/6 throughout.
As Gus said - take the point and move on. We didn't earn it but a top 6 side cannot be that inept again.
bbb1969
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7:27am Wed 6 Mar 13
Chi Gull
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8:13am Wed 6 Mar 13
weststandupperlacostearmy
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8:13am Wed 6 Mar 13
championshipgull
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8:19am Wed 6 Mar 13
bbb1969 wrote:By the same thinking, if Ulloa was on from the start then he could have the injury.
I posted regarding ulloa and he should not have been on the bench. Gp though he was resting him but if he had been on from the start then the cms injury may never have happened. If's and but's however how many strikers are jaded after less than a handful of games.
dave from bexill
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8:24am Wed 6 Mar 13
weststandupperlacostAnd if that fails, get someone in who's actually fit enough to play from time to time
earmy wrote:
Dear Tony, ring Mr Pullis and get Owen in for last ten or 13 games!
Jonathan Mouette
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8:35am Wed 6 Mar 13
Clean Sheet
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8:45am Wed 6 Mar 13
championshipgull wrote:Ulloa would not have got the CMS injury, as CMS was doing what only he does. He was chasing a good ball, leaving the defender for dead, but lost his footing. He did this a few times beforehand too, so probably had the wrong studs in his boots. Ulloa doesn't chase like CMS, who was probably our best player until his injury.
bbb1969 wrote: I posted regarding ulloa and he should not have been on the bench. Gp though he was resting him but if he had been on from the start then the cms injury may never have happened. If's and but's however how many strikers are jaded after less than a handful of games.By the same thinking, if Ulloa was on from the start then he could have the injury.
I too was surprised by the lack of Brighton subs. They did a lot of warming up at half time, but almost none during the 2nd half, so it was clear that GP had no plans for the change.
The one thing that Brighton did well last night was the long pass. We have some seriously good passers in the team. However, there was never enough support to the front guys to capitalise.
I was seated with the Brizzle season ticket holders, and they were all very appreciative of the Brighton skills, but very frustrated with some of the play acting.
championshipgull
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9:23am Wed 6 Mar 13
Clean Sheet wrote:Good to hear from someone that was at the game. Was the poor pitch a contributory factor in our performance or the injury?
championshipgull wrote:Ulloa would not have got the CMS injury, as CMS was doing what only he does. He was chasing a good ball, leaving the defender for dead, but lost his footing. He did this a few times beforehand too, so probably had the wrong studs in his boots. Ulloa doesn't chase like CMS, who was probably our best player until his injury.
bbb1969 wrote: I posted regarding ulloa and he should not have been on the bench. Gp though he was resting him but if he had been on from the start then the cms injury may never have happened. If's and but's however how many strikers are jaded after less than a handful of games.By the same thinking, if Ulloa was on from the start then he could have the injury.
I too was surprised by the lack of Brighton subs. They did a lot of warming up at half time, but almost none during the 2nd half, so it was clear that GP had no plans for the change.
The one thing that Brighton did well last night was the long pass. We have some seriously good passers in the team. However, there was never enough support to the front guys to capitalise.
I was seated with the Brizzle season ticket holders, and they were all very appreciative of the Brighton skills, but very frustrated with some of the play acting.
pjwilk
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9:23am Wed 6 Mar 13
weststandupperlacostYou mean one game if your lucky.
earmy wrote:
Dear Tony, ring Mr Pullis and get Owen in for last ten or 13 games!
Clean Sheet
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10:41am Wed 6 Mar 13
championshipgull wrote:The pitch seemed fine, although a few of our players were slipping over. I guess they watered it earlier in the day. Our team just seemed very lethargic. At each throw, nobody appeared to want the ball, so all our players were tightly marked by a side who appeared to want it more than we did.
Clean Sheet wrote:Good to hear from someone that was at the game. Was the poor pitch a contributory factor in our performance or the injury?championshipgull wrote:Ulloa would not have got the CMS injury, as CMS was doing what only he does. He was chasing a good ball, leaving the defender for dead, but lost his footing. He did this a few times beforehand too, so probably had the wrong studs in his boots. Ulloa doesn't chase like CMS, who was probably our best player until his injury. I too was surprised by the lack of Brighton subs. They did a lot of warming up at half time, but almost none during the 2nd half, so it was clear that GP had no plans for the change. The one thing that Brighton did well last night was the long pass. We have some seriously good passers in the team. However, there was never enough support to the front guys to capitalise. I was seated with the Brizzle season ticket holders, and they were all very appreciative of the Brighton skills, but very frustrated with some of the play acting.bbb1969 wrote: I posted regarding ulloa and he should not have been on the bench. Gp though he was resting him but if he had been on from the start then the cms injury may never have happened. If's and but's however how many strikers are jaded after less than a handful of games.By the same thinking, if Ulloa was on from the start then he could have the injury.
Claude Back
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11:00am Wed 6 Mar 13
Jonathan Mouette wrote:I agree. We are too defensive with Bridcutt as he offers nothing in attack.
I feel really gutted for CMS, I was looking forward to an eventual partnership with Ulloa. I'm sure the scouting team and their network will have someone in mind for a loan... I must admit disappointment about the performance last night. I was pleased to see Bridcutt back last night and he put in another good shift... but... did anyone else spot how we looked and played like we were about a month ago? Is there something about Bridcutt's style which actually slows us down in our build up, giving defences time to reorganise, or was it simply the absence of Bridge... I would be the last one to criticise Bridcutt so don't leap down my throat. Think about it for a couple of minutes and let me know what you think (politely please).
I thought the same thing.
However, despite what Gus said, it is clear from his recent selections he was never going to play CMS and Uloa together from the start of a game.
Old Scrote of the Amex
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11:41am Wed 6 Mar 13
Claude Back wrote:Is this the start of another witch-hunt, following Barnes, CMS and, to a lesser extent, Bruno? Always someone to blame :-)
Jonathan Mouette wrote:I agree. We are too defensive with Bridcutt as he offers nothing in attack.
I feel really gutted for CMS, I was looking forward to an eventual partnership with Ulloa. I'm sure the scouting team and their network will have someone in mind for a loan... I must admit disappointment about the performance last night. I was pleased to see Bridcutt back last night and he put in another good shift... but... did anyone else spot how we looked and played like we were about a month ago? Is there something about Bridcutt's style which actually slows us down in our build up, giving defences time to reorganise, or was it simply the absence of Bridge... I would be the last one to criticise Bridcutt so don't leap down my throat. Think about it for a couple of minutes and let me know what you think (politely please).
I thought the same thing.
However, despite what Gus said, it is clear from his recent selections he was never going to play CMS and Uloa together from the start of a game.
(No, I'm not being serious!)
championshipgull
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11:50am Wed 6 Mar 13
Clean Sheet
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1:26pm Wed 6 Mar 13
championshipgull wrote:Pleasure, thanks for your thanks :)
Clean Sheet Thanks for the posts
Alfie T says...
10:08pm Tue 5 Mar 13