Barnes off as Albion suffer cruel defeat (From The Argus)

I don't know what the maximum penalty Gus can hand out to Barnes but what ever it is, he should double it.

How irrisponsible can Barnes be knowing that we so badly need him. His mouth might cost us our place in the prem.

And it's open season on Ashley Barnes...

Barnes is a total liability, brainless tw@t, that's us down to one striker now. When will he learn, take any offer for him in the summer, not up to it.

Two red cards in the space of a month. He deserves every piece of abuse he gets. Especially when he knows we're down two strikers. Mindless.

I do not know the circs but his timing is indeed priceless. Lots of other results went our way (apart from Forest). We are still in charge of our own destiny...

Carrying on from my other posts---Barnes sent off for 'Foul and Abusive langauge'---totally unacceptable and deserved what he got---but let the Team down badly and puts us in an even worse position for strikers. No doubt he will say 'Sorry' but that is far too late. He appears to have played well up till then with good shots--which, should he have scored?? I don't know--thoroughly disappointed. Could have been so far ahead if Bristols game had gone our way last Tues and won or drawn today. Gus now really got his work cut out. What were you saying Vegas about getting TWO strikers in????

Foul & abusive language is certainly what we all want to direct at Barnes now...

Is his contract up at the end of the season, please say it is.

Bton played well did everything but test the keeper in secod half.No good playing brilliantly and losing,Bolton poor second today but take points-sign of a good side?
As for Barnes sick of his antics and as far as I am concerned I don't care if he never plays again
V disappointing and a chance to cement that play offplace lost,if we lose at Barnsley then 1 pt out of 9 samefailure as last season.

Not unexpected to go down to defeat against an in form Bolton side. Slightly worrying that yet again we dominate and create chances but fail to convert anything. Luckily some results have gone in our favour today and hopefullly we will regain a playoff place on Tuesday.

Disappointing that AB was yet again shown a red card for childish behaviour. More pressure on us to bring in a striker asap.

I watched CP against Leeds today and that man GM just keeps on scoring. He had two chances today (that may not really be considered chances) and converted both. Dobbie had a number of chances and was as woefull in front of goal for them as he was for us. Interesting to see that he also takes all of their set pieces.

On a positive note though we played very well (listening on the radio) and we certainly deserved something from the game. Onwards and upwards and I'm looking forward to some positive news on the striker front. Crouchy would be a good shout in a loan striker role rotating with Ulloa.

So did Ulloa need a rest today, the numbers suggest maybe he did. He didn't head a ball at the goal, but made a couple of defensive headers. He didn't get a shot on or off target. Thanks to Barnes cussing out the ref it now looks very unlikely that Ulloa will get a break any time soon.

mikeygit wrote:
Carrying on from my other posts---Barnes sent off for 'Foul and Abusive langauge'---totally unacceptable and deserved what he got---but let the Team down badly and puts us in an even worse position for strikers. No doubt he will say 'Sorry' but that is far too late. He appears to have played well up till then with good shots--which, should he have scored?? I don't know--thoroughly disappointed. Could have been so far ahead if Bristols game had gone our way last Tues and won or drawn today. Gus now really got his work cut out. What were you saying Vegas about getting TWO strikers in????

Micky if ever I wanted to be wrong today is the day.

21 attempts at goal today for Brighton.

Barnes, 6
Crofts 1
Bruno 1
David 6
Buckley 1
Vicente 1
Orlandi 1
Bridcutt 1
El Abd 1
Upson 2

What happened to Ulloa?

Barnes has the ability of a 10 year old, an IQ of half his age and about as many brain cells as a goldfish.

If I were GP I would transfer list him. Disgraceful actions just when we 'need' him. (To be fair though, I've never seen him do anything worthwhile since his move to the Albion.)

Play-offs still there for the taking if we beat the teams around us (eg Leicester, Forest etc.).

Three points against Barnsley is a must. Absolute must.

UTA

Stop watching football and watch Rugby. The players show respect to the ref and call him Sir. This afternoon Worthing 47 Shelford 3. Two yellows and a red card for rule infringements but not a word of foul or abusive langauge.

Ahhhhh,did the bad man say a naughty word,ahhh,what sort of girl do you have to be to Red card a player in a vital game,at the heat of the moment with what is at stake!!!???.

The ref,and a laughable one at that,must have known there was two minutes left,caution him,yellow card him,but red..i dont agree with Barnes reaction,he should be fined,but the guy is showing his passion,if he didn`t,how many would moan about that!.

The ref is obviously a Big Girl...Ahhh Didumms.

Yes Vegas!!! On the question of 'foul and abusive' language---I have advocated for a long time that Managers should get a grip of their players on this language issue and they themselves should set an example. All very well to say it is everyday langauge nowadays--does not mean it is acceptable and why should referees not have respect--whether you agree with them or not. Does not happen in Rugby. Players acually call the ref 'SIR'--can you ever image footballers addressing the ref as SIR??? Reminder once again that Garry Linneker never got booked in his career---and he was one of the most successful footballers of his era.
Respect is what we have lost in football and in society. Rant over and am prepared for appropriate responses!!!!

Grumpy Old Cyclist---you beat me two it--in part---by 2 minutes!!

If you take the justified anger out fans posts on here and just think what Barnes mouthing off really means, it still doesn't make good reading.

Just one senior striker left available.
That remaining striker clearly needs a break, he did nothing in forward play today.
The rest of the lads are fighting for points, Barnes has let them down.
The fans supporting at home in huge numbers and away fans numbers are excelent, he let them down too.
Barnes has a manager who believes in him, he let Gus down.
Barnes is building a reputation as a liability, he let himself down, again.
The DS lads that would love to get their chance, he let them down and set them a poor example.

Andy structible - 20 goals in our promotion season "not worthwhile"? Do me a favour.

Tuesday could define our season I reckon. We could climb into fifth spot with Leicester away at Cardiff.

Hopefully Barnsley will be low on confidence after a predicted crushing by Man City. Or, have a sever cup hangover after one of the greatest results in their history.

Anyway, keep looking forward. Poor day, but the situation is retrievable. Just hope Ulloa is on top form for the rest of the season. We're now relying on him.

COYB

I have generally been a Barnes advocate and protector, but I have to say my patience with that boy has just about ended.

He just doesn't have the intelligence and maturity to handle himself properly, either from a confronational standpoint, tactically, or otherwise.

Time to go Ash, League One beckons.

Two loan strikers anyone ?

Last game mr Barndoor started we lost and he got sent off.
On a positive at least he's banned again, so not all bad. Chuck Buckers upfront until loan striker comes.

Grendel wrote:
Andy structible - 20 goals in our promotion season "not worthwhile"? Do me a favour.

Barnes may have bagged plenty goals in the last few seasons, but I do feel that his overall performance and behaviour is poor.

2 starts in the last eight, no goals. Two red cards. Adds up really.

First touch poor, offers little in the air. League one standard I'm afraid.

Bye bye barnes. That is all. Win vs Barnsley, 5th spot
We move on.

bruce beckett wrote:
Two red cards in the space of a month. He deserves every piece of abuse he gets. Especially when he knows we're down two strikers. Mindless.

You don't think it might be fairer to find out WHY he was red-carded before you start abusing him? All these comments condemning him but NONE are yet in full avail of all the facts. I hope none of you ever end up on jury.

We’re still in the mix but another hugely frustrating performance…in a season of hugely frustrating performances and missed opportunities. And to cap it all that idiot Barnes gets another red card. Maybe no one told that prize turkey about the injuries to Hosko and CMS, but if he puts his own emotions before the good of the club then the guy is a LIABILITY in my book. Tuesdays game against Barnsley is now an absolute win but it’s difficult to see how we can do that with only one striker available, and a jaded one at that.

That's twice Bolton have mugged us this season. And Freedman seems to have the voodoo sign over Gus. Barnsley a "must win" now on Tuesday...but who is going to score the goals?

Grumpy Old Cyclist wrote:
Stop watching football and watch Rugby. The players show respect to the ref and call him Sir. This afternoon Worthing 47 Shelford 3. Two yellows and a red card for rule infringements but not a word of foul or abusive langauge.

I'd rather watch paint dry than Rugby. Too boring and slow.

Old Scrote of the Amex.

And I'll bet you think OJ Simpson was innocent too?

The idea that you should not get a yellow for using foul and abusive language toward the ref is totally wrong.

It appears that Barnes got a yellow for a foul, correct me if I am wrong, and then another for the language he used.

I have never seen a ref change his mind due to the abusive langauge directed at him.

If Vegas is right about Ulloa needing a rest, then Gus has his work cut out finding a couple of strikers by the time Palarse come to town. Murray is a goal machine and will be likely to add to his impressive tally at the Amex.

What is the point of blowing your top at the ref in deep injury time?

How many people out there,remember the away game at Saints last season(3-0) Home ref all the way,and as Marcos Painter said.
"Used language that you dont expect from a referee"immediately before showing Tanno a RED for abusive language,as i recall for a foul (dive) by Forte,outside the box but was given as a penalty. Several Albion players backed him up and said it happened more than once,to more than one player.

Any MORON that thinks rugby is so brilliant ,because they dont use bad language,...ok,so they are polite while they knock each others teeth out,and rarely go a half without feeling the need to punch someone. Yes you are obviously a very intelligent person for thinking that is exceptible,but calling a bad ref a t**t is not.

Yes Vegas I feel let down too.

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

bruce beckett wrote:
Two red cards in the space of a month. He deserves every piece of abuse he gets. Especially when he knows we're down two strikers. Mindless.

You don't think it might be fairer to find out WHY he was red-carded before you start abusing him? All these comments condemning him but NONE are yet in full avail of all the facts. I hope none of you ever end up on jury.

Yes I think it was because he said to the ref " I say old chap I don't think I agree with that decision "

Good to see the overwhelming majority of posts deplore abuse of referee and AB seriously letting the club and the fans down.

Mr Naylor has tweeted:

@AndyNaylorArgus: Barnes red was for trying to trip ref. #bhafc

Deary me Barnes....... deary me...

Alfie T wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

bruce beckett wrote:
Two red cards in the space of a month. He deserves every piece of abuse he gets. Especially when he knows we're down two strikers. Mindless.

You don't think it might be fairer to find out WHY he was red-carded before you start abusing him? All these comments condemning him but NONE are yet in full avail of all the facts. I hope none of you ever end up on jury.

Yes I think it was because he said to the ref " I say old chap I don't think I agree with that decision "

What did you say when we went behind,i know what i said,and it definitely wasn`t" I say old chap i don`t think i agree with that decision"

If you can tell me that at NO point in todays ,or any other days game,that you dont cuss,then your either Very careful with the truth,or are a very dispassionate soul.

Once again Barnes cant handle himself professionally and also lacks the cutting edge of a Championship striker !
Please Gus , give the DS lads a try .. they would love a sniff of a chance.. is there any point playing them in the DS squad week in/out if they know they will never get used for the First team ... give them a chance ...Good news is Barnes is out again ..deja vu ! He needs to go ..sorry just not good enough !

We dont seem to be able to convert chances ... give the young lads a try ..dont see how getting in Loan players will help .. they wont know our style of play anyway ..... Totally gutted today ... we should have taken 6 points from last two matches .... GG

VegasSeagull wrote:
I don't know what the maximum penalty Gus can hand out to Barnes but what ever it is, he should double it.

How irrisponsible can Barnes be knowing that we so badly need him. His mouth might cost us our place in the prem.

If we're not with the big boys next season it will have more to do with 14 draws (so far) including one against the bottom club where we didn't have a shot on goal. Most of those games with a full squad available.

Wrap up warm on Tuesday evening, there's big gaps for the east wind to blow in at Barnsley.
But there will also be gaps for Albion to exploit. Three points is a must.
Barnes is emotionally immature.How many games banned for a second red card?
Bring on the kids from the DS

UTA

tug509 wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

bruce beckett wrote:
Two red cards in the space of a month. He deserves every piece of abuse he gets. Especially when he knows we're down two strikers. Mindless.

You don't think it might be fairer to find out WHY he was red-carded before you start abusing him? All these comments condemning him but NONE are yet in full avail of all the facts. I hope none of you ever end up on jury.

Yes I think it was because he said to the ref " I say old chap I don't think I agree with that decision "

What did you say when we went behind,i know what i said,and it definitely wasn`t" I say old chap i don`t think i agree with that decision"

If you can tell me that at NO point in todays ,or any other days game,that you dont cuss,then your either Very careful with the truth,or are a very dispassionate soul.

What is your point, I'm a paying supporter and when I want to use inappropriate language it doesn't affect the number of players representing my team, unlike that hot head Barnes.

I hope Poyet puts Barnes on the transfer list and he never plays for us again. I actually hate him.

Current speculation is that Barnes tried to trip the ref which is a totally stupid thing to do.. He's burnt a lot of bridges with his idiotic reaction and deserves the roasting he's getting for it..

On another note, sounded to me like they were doubling up on Vicente, Ulloa and later Buckley when he came on and the ref was totally biased listening to Warren Aspinall's commentary.

Good day at the office by all accounts.. but bad in terms of result!

we all swear but if your rude and crude comments are directed at the referee, about the referee, you are off.

Tweet from a Bolton Fan:

@Sheebo4 impressive footballing team I must say. You just lacked final product today, best there has been at the Reebok

Regardless of the offence, I've always been of the opinion that ANY player who gets red-carded that late in a game, unless they're taking one for the team in a crucial moment, has let his teammates, the club and supporters down, no excuses. Poor from Barnes given his recent ban and strikers situation. And I'm not a Barnes knocker, always backed him.
Still in our own hands, but we need to find the net more consistently, simple but crucial. Move on, we're still a good side.

Alfie T wrote:

tug509 wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

bruce beckett wrote:
Two red cards in the space of a month. He deserves every piece of abuse he gets. Especially when he knows we're down two strikers. Mindless.

You don't think it might be fairer to find out WHY he was red-carded before you start abusing him? All these comments condemning him but NONE are yet in full avail of all the facts. I hope none of you ever end up on jury.

Yes I think it was because he said to the ref " I say old chap I don't think I agree with that decision "

What did you say when we went behind,i know what i said,and it definitely wasn`t" I say old chap i don`t think i agree with that decision"

If you can tell me that at NO point in todays ,or any other days game,that you dont cuss,then your either Very careful with the truth,or are a very dispassionate soul.

What is your point, I'm a paying supporter and when I want to use inappropriate language it doesn't affect the number of players representing my team, unlike that hot head Barnes.

He may be a hot head,but firstly you or i have no idea what was said!,secondly unless you have played at that level,how can you or i know the pressure that players are under,im assuming you havn`t ,because if you had you would know! and it is apparent that you dont.

While your use of "inappropriate language" doesn`t affect the number of players representing OUR team,you are not on the pitch,you are not in the heat of the battle,and there are no consequences for you,if you dont either perform or score or win,unlike him.

Claude Back wrote:

Grumpy Old Cyclist wrote:
Stop watching football and watch Rugby. The players show respect to the ref and call him Sir. This afternoon Worthing 47 Shelford 3. Two yellows and a red card for rule infringements but not a word of foul or abusive langauge.

I'd rather watch paint dry than Rugby. Too boring and slow.

I don't like cycling either for same reasons

SiWilki wrote:

Claude Back wrote:

Grumpy Old Cyclist wrote:
Stop watching football and watch Rugby. The players show respect to the ref and call him Sir. This afternoon Worthing 47 Shelford 3. Two yellows and a red card for rule infringements but not a word of foul or abusive langauge.

I'd rather watch paint dry than Rugby. Too boring and slow.

I don't like cycling either for same reasons

Sorry ;P

VegasSeagull wrote:
If you take the justified anger out fans posts on here and just think what Barnes mouthing off really means, it still doesn't make good reading.

Just one senior striker left available.
That remaining striker clearly needs a break, he did nothing in forward play today.
The rest of the lads are fighting for points, Barnes has let them down.
The fans supporting at home in huge numbers and away fans numbers are excelent, he let them down too.
Barnes has a manager who believes in him, he let Gus down.
Barnes is building a reputation as a liability, he let himself down, again.
The DS lads that would love to get their chance, he let them down and set them a poor example.

"Ashley Barnes was sent-off for trying to trip the referee" from the next Argus posting - quite incredible and totally unacceptable if so. Same if is bad language. This is the guy that used to happily take our penalties and the goal stats that went with him when he managed to get one in. The situation is laughable really. If his goals, levels of skill and ability were excellent or even "very good" and he was making the difference in the team, then Gus's continued belief in Barnes would be fine and understandable - as fans we'd put up with his immaturity, hot headedness, poor first touch or whatever - but the fact is he isn't and the stats don't support his case

His first start in 6 matches - our first loss in six matches. Perhaps Gus supports him and backs him so much, in part, as he knows so many of the crowd don't see in him what he reckons he can see

Listing on SCR today there were at least 4 times where Ashley seemed to get in the way/ be unaware of his team mates and on two occasions costs us a better opportunity. Someone else can be the person where he is and will put more in

So, apart from broadly, other results, this week - the best news for most fans is his sending off and hopefully the forcing of Gus and Tony to rapidly get a loan striker in till the end of the season

Good to see Gus has not spotted that Hammond and Crofts doesn't work, Vicente as loan striker doesn't work, Buckley is low on confidence and well done for ringing the changes (apart from Barnes)

How great it would be to see Vicente start two home games one time this season on the trot

20 shots today - 20 up on Tuesday (Middlesbrough didn't do much better than us today down there)

Hopefully that's it for Barnes this year - a decent league 1 striker, gives his all but cannot be trusted

Barnsley getting tonked by City at the moment means it could go either way of course on Tuesday

The only part of your input above Vegas I'd disagree with is "BUILDING a reputation as a liability"

No time to waste Gus and Tony - as each match passes there's less points to get

tug509 wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

tug509 wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

bruce beckett wrote:
Two red cards in the space of a month. He deserves every piece of abuse he gets. Especially when he knows we're down two strikers. Mindless.

You don't think it might be fairer to find out WHY he was red-carded before you start abusing him? All these comments condemning him but NONE are yet in full avail of all the facts. I hope none of you ever end up on jury.

Yes I think it was because he said to the ref " I say old chap I don't think I agree with that decision "

What did you say when we went behind,i know what i said,and it definitely wasn`t" I say old chap i don`t think i agree with that decision"

If you can tell me that at NO point in todays ,or any other days game,that you dont cuss,then your either Very careful with the truth,or are a very dispassionate soul.

What is your point, I'm a paying supporter and when I want to use inappropriate language it doesn't affect the number of players representing my team, unlike that hot head Barnes.

He may be a hot head,but firstly you or i have no idea what was said!,secondly unless you have played at that level,how can you or i know the pressure that players are under,im assuming you havn`t ,because if you had you would know! and it is apparent that you dont.

While your use of "inappropriate language" doesn`t affect the number of players representing OUR team,you are not on the pitch,you are not in the heat of the battle,and there are no consequences for you,if you dont either perform or score or win,unlike him.

Your right I'm not on the pitch, but when I played football at county league standard, I never tried to trip up the referee, have you got an excuse for Barnes for that little misdemeanour ?

tug509 wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

tug509 wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

bruce beckett wrote:
Two red cards in the space of a month. He deserves every piece of abuse he gets. Especially when he knows we're down two strikers. Mindless.

You don't think it might be fairer to find out WHY he was red-carded before you start abusing him? All these comments condemning him but NONE are yet in full avail of all the facts. I hope none of you ever end up on jury.

Yes I think it was because he said to the ref " I say old chap I don't think I agree with that decision "

What did you say when we went behind,i know what i said,and it definitely wasn`t" I say old chap i don`t think i agree with that decision"

If you can tell me that at NO point in todays ,or any other days game,that you dont cuss,then your either Very careful with the truth,or are a very dispassionate soul.

What is your point, I'm a paying supporter and when I want to use inappropriate language it doesn't affect the number of players representing my team, unlike that hot head Barnes.

He may be a hot head,but firstly you or i have no idea what was said!,secondly unless you have played at that level,how can you or i know the pressure that players are under,im assuming you havn`t ,because if you had you would know! and it is apparent that you dont.

While your use of "inappropriate language" doesn`t affect the number of players representing OUR team,you are not on the pitch,you are not in the heat of the battle,and there are no consequences for you,if you dont either perform or score or win,unlike him.

Only problem is for all the pressure and stress and annoyance in not getting that goal not one of the other Albion players managed to get a red card or even a yellow...

Obviously Barnes didn't fancy Barnsley on a Tuesday night ! .Sounds like we done enough to win the game. Can't see us doing it now unless we can bring a Gem in on loan....?

Alfie T wrote:

tug509 wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

tug509 wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

bruce beckett wrote:
Two red cards in the space of a month. He deserves every piece of abuse he gets. Especially when he knows we're down two strikers. Mindless.

You don't think it might be fairer to find out WHY he was red-carded before you start abusing him? All these comments condemning him but NONE are yet in full avail of all the facts. I hope none of you ever end up on jury.

Yes I think it was because he said to the ref " I say old chap I don't think I agree with that decision "

What did you say when we went behind,i know what i said,and it definitely wasn`t" I say old chap i don`t think i agree with that decision"

If you can tell me that at NO point in todays ,or any other days game,that you dont cuss,then your either Very careful with the truth,or are a very dispassionate soul.

What is your point, I'm a paying supporter and when I want to use inappropriate language it doesn't affect the number of players representing my team, unlike that hot head Barnes.

He may be a hot head,but firstly you or i have no idea what was said!,secondly unless you have played at that level,how can you or i know the pressure that players are under,im assuming you havn`t ,because if you had you would know! and it is apparent that you dont.

While your use of "inappropriate language" doesn`t affect the number of players representing OUR team,you are not on the pitch,you are not in the heat of the battle,and there are no consequences for you,if you dont either perform or score or win,unlike him.

Your right I'm not on the pitch, but when I played football at county league standard, I never tried to trip up the referee, have you got an excuse for Barnes for that little misdemeanour ?

This is the first any of us have heard of this,unless you were there of course. However how this equates to "foul and abusive language" ,which is what he was sent off for!. heaven only knows.

Now if you knew that,why didn`t you say so,and if you have only just learnt of it as i have,then your point escapes me.

Now if you were to ask me,if i thought Barnes was becoming an expensive liability,then i would have to agree that he was,i like the guy,but enough is enough. UTA

SiWilki wrote:

tug509 wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

tug509 wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

bruce beckett wrote:
Two red cards in the space of a month. He deserves every piece of abuse he gets. Especially when he knows we're down two strikers. Mindless.

You don't think it might be fairer to find out WHY he was red-carded before you start abusing him? All these comments condemning him but NONE are yet in full avail of all the facts. I hope none of you ever end up on jury.

Yes I think it was because he said to the ref " I say old chap I don't think I agree with that decision "

What did you say when we went behind,i know what i said,and it definitely wasn`t" I say old chap i don`t think i agree with that decision"

If you can tell me that at NO point in todays ,or any other days game,that you dont cuss,then your either Very careful with the truth,or are a very dispassionate soul.

What is your point, I'm a paying supporter and when I want to use inappropriate language it doesn't affect the number of players representing my team, unlike that hot head Barnes.

He may be a hot head,but firstly you or i have no idea what was said!,secondly unless you have played at that level,how can you or i know the pressure that players are under,im assuming you havn`t ,because if you had you would know! and it is apparent that you dont.

While your use of "inappropriate language" doesn`t affect the number of players representing OUR team,you are not on the pitch,you are not in the heat of the battle,and there are no consequences for you,if you dont either perform or score or win,unlike him.

Only problem is for all the pressure and stress and annoyance in not getting that goal not one of the other Albion players managed to get a red card or even a yellow...

Your right,cant argue with that.

tug509 wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

tug509 wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

tug509 wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

bruce beckett wrote:
Two red cards in the space of a month. He deserves every piece of abuse he gets. Especially when he knows we're down two strikers. Mindless.

You don't think it might be fairer to find out WHY he was red-carded before you start abusing him? All these comments condemning him but NONE are yet in full avail of all the facts. I hope none of you ever end up on jury.

Yes I think it was because he said to the ref " I say old chap I don't think I agree with that decision "

What did you say when we went behind,i know what i said,and it definitely wasn`t" I say old chap i don`t think i agree with that decision"

If you can tell me that at NO point in todays ,or any other days game,that you dont cuss,then your either Very careful with the truth,or are a very dispassionate soul.

What is your point, I'm a paying supporter and when I want to use inappropriate language it doesn't affect the number of players representing my team, unlike that hot head Barnes.

He may be a hot head,but firstly you or i have no idea what was said!,secondly unless you have played at that level,how can you or i know the pressure that players are under,im assuming you havn`t ,because if you had you would know! and it is apparent that you dont.

While your use of "inappropriate language" doesn`t affect the number of players representing OUR team,you are not on the pitch,you are not in the heat of the battle,and there are no consequences for you,if you dont either perform or score or win,unlike him.

Your right I'm not on the pitch, but when I played football at county league standard, I never tried to trip up the referee, have you got an excuse for Barnes for that little misdemeanour ?

This is the first any of us have heard of this,unless you were there of course. However how this equates to "foul and abusive language" ,which is what he was sent off for!. heaven only knows.

Now if you knew that,why didn`t you say so,and if you have only just learnt of it as i have,then your point escapes me.

Now if you were to ask me,if i thought Barnes was becoming an expensive liability,then i would have to agree that he was,i like the guy,but enough is enough. UTA

Well, at least we agree on something, have a nice weekend.

VegasSeagull wrote:
21 attempts at goal today for Brighton.

Barnes, 6
Crofts 1
Bruno 1
David 6
Buckley 1
Vicente 1
Orlandi 1
Bridcutt 1
El Abd 1
Upson 2

What happened to Ulloa?

I think these stats are always a bit suspect. I do remember Ulloa having at least one attempt on goal from some of the commentary I heard and Crofts was just talking about his couple of chances on the radio (one saved, one post).

Anyway expect Ulloa was playing the holding it up for the others role most the time.

Good to see another 6 from David who on another day would have scored and will probably bag us double figures (plus penalties) next season if we keep hold of him.

Alfie T wrote:

tug509 wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

tug509 wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

tug509 wrote:

Alfie T wrote:

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

bruce beckett wrote:
Two red cards in the space of a month. He deserves every piece of abuse he gets. Especially when he knows we're down two strikers. Mindless.

You don't think it might be fairer to find out WHY he was red-carded before you start abusing him? All these comments condemning him but NONE are yet in full avail of all the facts. I hope none of you ever end up on jury.

Yes I think it was because he said to the ref " I say old chap I don't think I agree with that decision "

What did you say when we went behind,i know what i said,and it definitely wasn`t" I say old chap i don`t think i agree with that decision"

If you can tell me that at NO point in todays ,or any other days game,that you dont cuss,then your either Very careful with the truth,or are a very dispassionate soul.

What is your point, I'm a paying supporter and when I want to use inappropriate language it doesn't affect the number of players representing my team, unlike that hot head Barnes.

He may be a hot head,but firstly you or i have no idea what was said!,secondly unless you have played at that level,how can you or i know the pressure that players are under,im assuming you havn`t ,because if you had you would know! and it is apparent that you dont.

While your use of "inappropriate language" doesn`t affect the number of players representing OUR team,you are not on the pitch,you are not in the heat of the battle,and there are no consequences for you,if you dont either perform or score or win,unlike him.

Your right I'm not on the pitch, but when I played football at county league standard, I never tried to trip up the referee, have you got an excuse for Barnes for that little misdemeanour ?

This is the first any of us have heard of this,unless you were there of course. However how this equates to "foul and abusive language" ,which is what he was sent off for!. heaven only knows.

Now if you knew that,why didn`t you say so,and if you have only just learnt of it as i have,then your point escapes me.

Now if you were to ask me,if i thought Barnes was becoming an expensive liability,then i would have to agree that he was,i like the guy,but enough is enough. UTA

Well, at least we agree on something, have a nice weekend.

Thanks Alfie T, you as well ,but until we somehow get 3 points at Barnsley on tuesday,i doubt either of us will enjoy our weekend. UTA

bruce beckett wrote:
Old Scrote of the Amex.

And I'll bet you think OJ Simpson was innocent too?

What a ridiculous argument. Seriously.

Happens, tough place to go sure we will bounce back. Boro lost, but look at forest! Win Tuesday and against Palace when I go please would be grand!

I think some of you need a reality check! With the exception of Ulloa Barnes is our best striker. Mackail-Smith Is hugely overrated in my opinion. Barnes is out of contract and although under 24 would not attract a big fee. If we let him go would we be able to attract any better? As for the six development squad strikers they are and never will be up to championship standards. I suggest some of you need to grow up and start acting your age rather than your IQ.

Surely Lua LUa is a better option than Barnes,he could play as a rampaging centre foreward.Put him in the team and leave him in,or does Gus hate him as much as he loves Barnes.If Lua Lua is fit play him,he will come good.

Final third has been our problem all season.All very well and good passing 50 passes out of defence but no penetration final third.Know we put 4 past a very poor Huddersfield recently but goalscoring has been a huge problem,even 2nd from bottom Peterborough have scored more goals than us.Need to sign 3 top strikers on loan till the end of the season to stand any chance of making play-offs.We also need plan B,lob the ball forward sometimes,not pretty but you only need 1 or 2 passes to find the back of the net.Very depressing that a very average team like Bolton on the decendancy,have taken 4 points from us this year.

barnieb wrote:
Final third has been our problem all season.All very well and good passing 50 passes out of defence but no penetration final third.Know we put 4 past a very poor Huddersfield recently but goalscoring has been a huge problem,even 2nd from bottom Peterborough have scored more goals than us.Need to sign 3 top strikers on loan till the end of the season to stand any chance of making play-offs.We also need plan B,lob the ball forward sometimes,not pretty but you only need 1 or 2 passes to find the back of the net.Very depressing that a very average team like Bolton on the decendancy,have taken 4 points from us this year.

Outstanding post.You are 100% spot on.The club made a very big mistake the other week when it said,"If we are in the prem-league we know the players we will be after,but if we are still in the championship not many will come in."That was the green light to so many of the clubs freeloaders.Now the fans have got to pay even more money to watch the same rubbish players next season,but without Vicente or Bridge.

Anyone that saw the football league show tonight,and if they really honest can see Glen Murray is a top striker.He is a world apart from nothings like CMS,Hoskins,Barnes,T
oby,and the Barkers of the world.Also anyone who saw them down Preston street off their faces after the Hudersfield game can understand what Nooney & Dobbie mean.

They need a rest,they need to recover lol.Do you here this from any other manager about his players.Does Holloway say it about Murray or Zaha?Every club plays the same amount of games at the end of the day.In fact most other clubs play more than our freeloaders because they do better in the cups.

Zamora25 wrote:
I think some of you need a reality check! With the exception of Ulloa Barnes is our best striker. Mackail-Smith Is hugely overrated in my opinion. Barnes is out of contract and although under 24 would not attract a big fee. If we let him go would we be able to attract any better? As for the six development squad strikers they are and never will be up to championship standards. I suggest some of you need to grow up and start acting your age rather than your IQ.

Top post my friend.100% spot on.CMS can run all day,but will never score goals like Murray in the championship.The two very poor years of goals prove this.Plus he could never do it last time for Peterborough.A waste of 3.5 million.Plus a waste of 1.5 million on Hoskins.Murray would not have cost half of that.

I know it's history, but has Glen Murray needed to be rested between scoring his 30 goals this season?