Bolton boss: We controlled the game (From The Argus)

deluded

Completely.

Never heard of 'controlling without the ball'

Come on boys, bounce back with three points on Tuesday.

UTA

Who cares? They won, we lost.

Yes i heard his comments he said we controlled the game without having the ball.I think you will find the Homer Ref controlled the game.As for the trip,Barnes was running after the ref to complain and accidently clipped his heel.The Ref was looking the other way so did not see the incident so is only guessing what happened.

"Controlled the game without the ball"

I think i`ll drive down the road later,and control the car,without the stearing wheel,..what do you expect from a palarse crony. UTA

Ex-Palace so what does one expect - clearly doesn't understand anything about football! Muppet.

To be fair to him when he says "we controlled the game without the ball", he meant him and the ref.

We were on the game yesterday, D F,s comments post game amusing.We are playing well enough for a play off spot. If the lads keep going for it they,ll get it. The likes m-borough & leicster are wobbling.We can take advantage. COME ON YOU SEAGULLS.

51% of the game,21 shots at goal,12 on target,14 corners to your 5,in fact the only stat you beat us on was fouls!.

Yeah you really controlled the game jackass.

Andy Structible wrote:
Completely.

Never heard of 'controlling without the ball'

Come on boys, bounce back with three points on Tuesday.

UTA

Dream,dream,dream,dr
eam,dream,dream,drea
m,dream,dream,dream,
dream,dream.All the rubbish above just proves how little most of you know about football.Even the best teams in the world sometimes do it.Man U very often in the prem-league.A team can have all the possession in the world but if they can't score it means nothing.Thats called controlling the game,and like i said even the best teams sometimes do it.Most of you are just like children.The only reason you don't like Freedman is because of his links to Palace.Talk about childish.51% of the game ha Tug,how wonderful.Please read your own post again and your little list.If you can think for one min you will see Freedmans comments is 100% spot on.

Yes, to help Gus, the League are changing the rules for next season, 4 Points will be awarded to the the team that controlled the game, 2 points for a win, 1 for a draw.

Brighton will then be able to win promotion.

Freeloaders wrote:

Andy Structible wrote:
Completely.

Never heard of 'controlling without the ball'

Come on boys, bounce back with three points on Tuesday.

UTA

Dream,dream,dream,dr

eam,dream,dream,drea

m,dream,dream,dream,

dream,dream.All the rubbish above just proves how little most of you know about football.Even the best teams in the world sometimes do it.Man U very often in the prem-league.A team can have all the possession in the world but if they can't score it means nothing.Thats called controlling the game,and like i said even the best teams sometimes do it.Most of you are just like children.The only reason you don't like Freedman is because of his links to Palace.Talk about childish.51% of the game ha Tug,how wonderful.Please read your own post again and your little list.If you can think for one min you will see Freedmans comments is 100% spot on.

Just got off the phone to one of my daughters who lives in Southampton,she has far more knowledge of the game than you,as she understands that 21 is bigger than 12,and she doesn`t like football. If you are correct,then going by your way of thinking,we absolutely murdered Bristol City with our NO shots the other tuesday,i hope they know how lucky they were!!. Freedman has always been the same character,if we had won 5-0,he would claim to have dominated the game.

Its a shame you claim to be in with all the hierarchy within our club,in fact with football in general,because sometimes you make a lot of sense,even if you seem to feel the need to insult ,to make your point. If you were in the loop,your wisdom would come before the event,but it NEVER does. So either,you get lucky once in a while,or you are the same as freedman,...a jackass. UTA

Can we put a bit of perspective on Freedman?
Admittedly, he has blatantly glossed over the fact that we were the better team but he has acknowledged our ability and why wouldn't he? We are a very fine team.
Freedman is a manager who bequeathed to Holloway a team that I think was 4th in the Championship - he saw the bigger picture at Bolton, notwithstanding that Bolton were a mess in 20th position or thereabouts. There were plenty of scratched heads at the time. They are now 8th in the table. Seems to me to be quite a manager. We have our own excellent manager but we should at least acknowledge the ability of others.

wiseman of hove wrote:
Can we put a bit of perspective on Freedman?
Admittedly, he has blatantly glossed over the fact that we were the better team but he has acknowledged our ability and why wouldn't he? We are a very fine team.
Freedman is a manager who bequeathed to Holloway a team that I think was 4th in the Championship - he saw the bigger picture at Bolton, notwithstanding that Bolton were a mess in 20th position or thereabouts. There were plenty of scratched heads at the time. They are now 8th in the table. Seems to me to be quite a manager. We have our own excellent manager but we should at least acknowledge the ability of others.

Nah, I much prefer the 'Muppet' comment

wiseman of hove wrote:
Can we put a bit of perspective on Freedman?
Admittedly, he has blatantly glossed over the fact that we were the better team but he has acknowledged our ability and why wouldn't he? We are a very fine team.
Freedman is a manager who bequeathed to Holloway a team that I think was 4th in the Championship - he saw the bigger picture at Bolton, notwithstanding that Bolton were a mess in 20th position or thereabouts. There were plenty of scratched heads at the time. They are now 8th in the table. Seems to me to be quite a manager. We have our own excellent manager but we should at least acknowledge the ability of others.

Well said.

Hated hearing Freedman on his high horse, but he's right. With possession we should score. We didn't, and paid for it.
It happens, and its a part of our play we need to improve.
But don't blame Freedman for pandering to his own fans. They all do it.

What freedman is trying to say he allowed Brighton possession in the areas where they could not hurt Bolton.and prevented them from making the moves that would lead to a goal. I never saw the match so cant tell.

He's not stupid: he did sign GM for free after all

Freeloaders wrote:

Andy Structible wrote:
Completely.

Never heard of 'controlling without the ball'

Come on boys, bounce back with three points on Tuesday.

UTA

Dream,dream,dream,dr

eam,dream,dream,drea

m,dream,dream,dream,

dream,dream.All the rubbish above just proves how little most of you know about football.Even the best teams in the world sometimes do it.Man U very often in the prem-league.A team can have all the possession in the world but if they can't score it means nothing.Thats called controlling the game,and like i said even the best teams sometimes do it.Most of you are just like children.The only reason you don't like Freedman is because of his links to Palace.Talk about childish.51% of the game ha Tug,how wonderful.Please read your own post again and your little list.If you can think for one min you will see Freedmans comments is 100% spot on.

You're very gobby for a Palace fan. (BTW, there's a huge thread on North Stand Chat about you - you're famous! And they have the same opinion of you as the rest of us.)

I hve no feelings regarding Palace: yes, he managed them, but then he left them for something better, which is fine by me. However, his idea that his team controlled the game by letting us outplay them is disingenuous. (Freeloaders, you may wish to consult a dictionary.)

Freeloaders wrote:

Andy Structible wrote:
Completely.

Never heard of 'controlling without the ball'

Come on boys, bounce back with three points on Tuesday.

UTA

Dream,dream,dream,dr

eam,dream,dream,drea

m,dream,dream,dream,

dream,dream.All the rubbish above just proves how little most of you know about football.Even the best teams in the world sometimes do it.Man U very often in the prem-league.A team can have all the possession in the world but if they can't score it means nothing.Thats called controlling the game,and like i said even the best teams sometimes do it.Most of you are just like children.The only reason you don't like Freedman is because of his links to Palace.Talk about childish.51% of the game ha Tug,how wonderful.Please read your own post again and your little list.If you can think for one min you will see Freedmans comments is 100% spot on.

Was it Bolton controlling the game that put Crofts shot on the post instead of just inside it?
Did Bolton "control" Orlandis shot the wrong side of the post, or any other chances wide?
They battled and got a result, fair play to them, but that is not controlling the game.
More Arsegravy from Freeloaders, on top of a good portion from Freedman.

pte wrote:
What freedman is trying to say he allowed Brighton possession in the areas where they could not hurt Bolton.and prevented them from making the moves that would lead to a goal. I never saw the match so cant tell.

He's not stupid: he did sign GM for free after all

From what I've heard and the statistics of the game, if he actually means they "controlled the game", he is a fool. If he means, which I think/hope he does, they managed to prevent our possession leading to lots of clear cut chances, he is correct and should possibly take credit for managing that tactically. It sounds like we still managed to create chances though. If Crofts' shot is 6 inches to the left, its a different story. They didn't control that!

He has got them moving up the table but, at the start of the season, where would we have newly-relegated Bolton? Not far from where they are now I wouldn't think.

Dougie Freedman is a wind up merchant who still has affections for his ex club Crystal Palace.The only consolation if Albion dont get promoted this season is that we can set the record straight and take 6 points off Bolton next season,thats if they are not relegated to Div 1 .

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

Freeloaders wrote:

Andy Structible wrote:
Completely.

Never heard of 'controlling without the ball'

Come on boys, bounce back with three points on Tuesday.

UTA

Dream,dream,dream,dr


eam,dream,dream,drea


m,dream,dream,dream,


dream,dream.All the rubbish above just proves how little most of you know about football.Even the best teams in the world sometimes do it.Man U very often in the prem-league.A team can have all the possession in the world but if they can't score it means nothing.Thats called controlling the game,and like i said even the best teams sometimes do it.Most of you are just like children.The only reason you don't like Freedman is because of his links to Palace.Talk about childish.51% of the game ha Tug,how wonderful.Please read your own post again and your little list.If you can think for one min you will see Freedmans comments is 100% spot on.

You're very gobby for a Palace fan. (BTW, there's a huge thread on North Stand Chat about you - you're famous! And they have the same opinion of you as the rest of us.)

I hve no feelings regarding Palace: yes, he managed them, but then he left them for something better, which is fine by me. However, his idea that his team controlled the game by letting us outplay them is disingenuous. (Freeloaders, you may wish to consult a dictionary.)

OSOTA-Why, oh why did you tell the Troll that? That's him made up for weeks, no doubt, lol. Rest of your post spot on though...
UTA.......

Exactly my thoughts wiltshire seagull, sorry OSA ;o)

To reaffirm this to everyone, the village idiot is not a Palace fan, he is just simply an idiot.

Well i was at the Millwall game today and i think its safe to say many of their fans feel the same about Wood as many Brighton fans still do about Murray.Unlike many of you small minded little people i get to see many other games also.Plus i also get to here what lots of other people think about players,and also what the press guys think.We had six shots on target in fact,and Bolton had five.Shots off target Bolton 5 -Brighton 9.Thats Bolton controlling the game to anyone with a football brain.They did their job and stopped Brighton.How do 9 shots off target hurt a team you brain dead mugs lol.If BHAFC told half you people the sun was cold most of you would believe it.

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

Freeloaders wrote:

Andy Structible wrote:
Completely.

Never heard of 'controlling without the ball'

Come on boys, bounce back with three points on Tuesday.

UTA

Dream,dream,dream,dr


eam,dream,dream,drea


m,dream,dream,dream,


dream,dream.All the rubbish above just proves how little most of you know about football.Even the best teams in the world sometimes do it.Man U very often in the prem-league.A team can have all the possession in the world but if they can't score it means nothing.Thats called controlling the game,and like i said even the best teams sometimes do it.Most of you are just like children.The only reason you don't like Freedman is because of his links to Palace.Talk about childish.51% of the game ha Tug,how wonderful.Please read your own post again and your little list.If you can think for one min you will see Freedmans comments is 100% spot on.

You're very gobby for a Palace fan. (BTW, there's a huge thread on North Stand Chat about you - you're famous! And they have the same opinion of you as the rest of us.)

I hve no feelings regarding Palace: yes, he managed them, but then he left them for something better, which is fine by me. However, his idea that his team controlled the game by letting us outplay them is disingenuous. (Freeloaders, you may wish to consult a dictionary.)

LOL yes i know its good aint it.Like i always said its not about making friends.Its about putting another spin on things.The only people that ever come on here that really know about football are MBTS & Vegas.The rest are just blind Brighton fans.Anyone that just has a little go at all things Albion is simply a Palace fan in your small minded brains.

Hovite wrote:
Exactly my thoughts wiltshire seagull, sorry OSA ;o)

To reaffirm this to everyone, the village idiot is not a Palace fan, he is just simply an idiot.

I was kinda hoping the notoriety might persuade him to try his inimitable brand of trollery amongst a more appreciative audience :-)

Freeloaders wrote:
Well i was at the Millwall game today and i think its safe to say many of their fans feel the same about Wood as many Brighton fans still do about Murray.Unlike many of you small minded little people i get to see many other games also.Plus i also get to here what lots of other people think about players,and also what the press guys think.We had six shots on target in fact,and Bolton had five.Shots off target Bolton 5 -Brighton 9.Thats Bolton controlling the game to anyone with a football brain.They did their job and stopped Brighton.How do 9 shots off target hurt a team you brain dead mugs lol.If BHAFC told half you people the sun was cold most of you would believe it.

If only you knew anything about football you could be a great asset here. The whole 'shots on/off target' is a smokescreen - a wholly unreliable and unimportant stat. Would you prefer 10 out of 10 shots on target? The only way to achieve that is aim for the middle, the bit with the keeper in it. To score you have to aim just inside the post, increasing you chances of missing the target entirely.

Still not sure how you say though that those stats (your version, anyway) in any way prove Bolton controlled the game? You can 'prove' anything with stats if you know how to mangle them, which is why Sam Allardyce and Charlie Hughes were so fond of them, and look at the kind of football they are associated with.

Did the Millwall fans remember that Wood was never actually their player?

Some os us know

LOL Bolton could have let Brighton have 50 shots,it means nothing if you don't score.End of the day Bolton did score,and then did the job their manager told them to do.They stopped Brighton scoreing and won the game.Bit like Brighton did at Cardiff.But thats different ha lol.You are to blind & small minded to really understand the game.You only hate Palace because you think you should because your a Brighton fan.When really it just goes to show what a small minded child you are.

Freeloaders wrote:
LOL Bolton could have let Brighton have 50 shots,it means nothing if you don't score.End of the day Bolton did score,and then did the job their manager told them to do.They stopped Brighton scoreing and won the game.Bit like Brighton did at Cardiff.But thats different ha lol.You are to blind & small minded to really understand the game.You only hate Palace because you think you should because your a Brighton fan.When really it just goes to show what a small minded child you are.

If you have 50 shots you score goals. It's very unusual to have as many as we did yesterday but have nothing to show for it. Yes they stopped Brighton scoring, but that was as much by luck (and a slightly home-biased ref) as by tactics.

Also, and I am amazed with your insight that you have never picked up on this, but I am one of the very few Brighton fans on here who have never hated Palace. I don't even dislike them. I have never really understood the enmity between the teams - it only really started 30 years ago and so feels faked and contrived. An affectation, if you will, just to have a rival. I have no less affection for them than I have for any other team in the league.

So it was just luck we stopped Cardiff that night then?You can't have it both ways my friend.For the record i don't think it was.That night the players did what the manager told them.Just like the Bolton players did yesterday.They stopped Brighton controlling the game,and stopped them from scoring.Sounds like they did their jobs to me.Its not often in any game that one team will get 80 or 90% possession.Anyway thanks for making it clear where you stand on the Palace thing.To be honest it works both ways.They still have a good few sad little mugs that take the Brighton thing way OTT.I think you got it spot on about contrived just to have a rival lol.Like we all know Millwall luv to hate West Ham with a passion.They don't really think about Palace.I think the fact Brighton couldn't even play Palace for years but they still look at Brighton as their big rival does say more about them.

Freeloaders wrote:
So it was just luck we stopped Cardiff that night then?You can't have it both ways my friend.For the record i don't think it was.That night the players did what the manager told them.Just like the Bolton players did yesterday.They stopped Brighton controlling the game,and stopped them from scoring.Sounds like they did their jobs to me.Its not often in any game that one team will get 80 or 90% possession.Anyway thanks for making it clear where you stand on the Palace thing.To be honest it works both ways.They still have a good few sad little mugs that take the Brighton thing way OTT.I think you got it spot on about contrived just to have a rival lol.Like we all know Millwall luv to hate West Ham with a passion.They don't really think about Palace.I think the fact Brighton couldn't even play Palace for years but they still look at Brighton as their big rival does say more about them.

No-one is saying that getting a smash-and-grab win is wrong, although its annoying when it happens against you. We did the same at Cardiff. If it didn't happen, Football would become as predictable as some other sports.

However, I don't see why Freedman felt the need to try and persuade people that they "controlled" the game. Maybe he is embarrassed that his Bolton team need to defend and counter-attack in a home game. I'd feel the need to respect him a lot more if he were to come out and say "Brighton are better technically than us so we had to defend and take our chances on the break". No problem with that but controlling the game is a different thing. Unfortunately, we control games without winning enough of them. However frustrating that can be, I'm pleased we have a team good enough to do that against most Championship opposition rather than defend and counter-attack.

We did not score and we lost, we will have to get over it. Its not the first time this season and it probably wont be the last.

smallie wrote:
We did not score and we lost, we will have to get over it. Its not the first time this season and it probably wont be the last.

Better be!.