Albion hit obstacles in striker search (From The Argus)

Hoskins injury was two weeks ago, I suspect Gus felt he was covered, now it's a drama..
I find it not a good sign that Gus has not come out and defended Barnes! Are we seriously going to go into the next 4 games with one striker? That is a disaster waiting to happen, surely Gus needs to line one up now! Yes we know the player wants big money, or wants first team football, however I sense a problem tonight, meaning we go into Sundays game in a mess.
Keep bridge for Sunday, Vicente on bench, and give lua lua a run out.

mark by the sea wrote:
Hoskins injury was two weeks ago, I suspect Gus felt he was covered, now it's a drama..
I find it not a good sign that Gus has not come out and defended Barnes! Are we seriously going to go into the next 4 games with one striker? That is a disaster waiting to happen, surely Gus needs to line one up now! Yes we know the player wants big money, or wants first team football, however I sense a problem tonight, meaning we go into Sundays game in a mess.
Keep bridge for Sunday, Vicente on bench, and give lua lua a run out.

It's only a shame that this post is too long for the superb Gull Delusion on Twitter.

Smartbloke wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:
Hoskins injury was two weeks ago, I suspect Gus felt he was covered, now it's a drama..
I find it not a good sign that Gus has not come out and defended Barnes! Are we seriously going to go into the next 4 games with one striker? That is a disaster waiting to happen, surely Gus needs to line one up now! Yes we know the player wants big money, or wants first team football, however I sense a problem tonight, meaning we go into Sundays game in a mess.
Keep bridge for Sunday, Vicente on bench, and give lua lua a run out.

It's only a shame that this post is too long for the superb Gull Delusion on Twitter.

We have lost three forwards in three weeks, watch ulloa either get injured or is not going to perform due to tiredness, that's clearly a problem if Gus rests a hattrick centre forward to a side in the bottom three (Bristol city) the cupboard is bare!

mark by the sea wrote:

Smartbloke wrote:

mark by the sea wrote: Hoskins injury was two weeks ago, I suspect Gus felt he was covered, now it's a drama.. I find it not a good sign that Gus has not come out and defended Barnes! Are we seriously going to go into the next 4 games with one striker? That is a disaster waiting to happen, surely Gus needs to line one up now! Yes we know the player wants big money, or wants first team football, however I sense a problem tonight, meaning we go into Sundays game in a mess. Keep bridge for Sunday, Vicente on bench, and give lua lua a run out.

It's only a shame that this post is too long for the superb Gull Delusion on Twitter.

We have lost three forwards in three weeks, watch ulloa either get injured or is not going to perform due to tiredness, that's clearly a problem if Gus rests a hattrick centre forward to a side in the bottom three (Bristol city) the cupboard is bare!

Agreed, its not been the luckiest of seasons for us. Surely one of our midfielders can do a job up front if needed to rest Ulloa. Buckley, Orlandi but mty preference would be Lua Lua.

In pre season we played Vicente up front against Reading. I hope we don't now because we miss his influence in the centre of the field

Is the game on?

Maybe we get a striker in then and guarantee him a place in team if he is quality enough, after all did not Gus say Ulloa was brought in to play with cms therefore playing 2 strikers was on the agenda beforehand ,

It does amaze and frustrate me that the 'best supported' team in the Championship has only one striker and seems to find it impossible to get one on loan! I know Poyet has his style and criteria but we are still playing the same sport as everyone else! (West Ham aside).

I suspect those inside the club know more about Barnes than they are indicating - he could well have owned up. Anyway, enough of the child, it sounds quite possible the current squad are going to have to do. At least we are not missing a talisman who was banging them in all season... They'll cope.

I think Gus is under so much pressure he can't see the wood for the trees. First problem was the loan would only be monthly, not till the end of the season. Second problem now is the loan will want it guaranteed they play! Well with no strikers wheres the problem? Take a loan for a month and play him until Barnes comes back. Then you can renew the loan with or without the guarantee depending on how desperate we are and on how well the loan has played in the first month.

But the priority has to be to get someone in at least until Barnes comes back

Im sure gus will arrange the team to night so we can attack with all the seagulls might , i dont care if its 5-3 to us its about points now, and 4 points from 3 away games would be a good haul.. uta .. seagulls .....carry on from sats performance, because i went to bristol and that had to be albions worst performance in years.....

I am loosing the will to live, I thought we were looking for a loan for Macca, that is after we were getting a loan for Hoskins. How is it that other clubs get loan players quite easily but we always have problems.

phumps wrote:
Maybe we get a striker in then and guarantee him a place in team if he is quality enough, after all did not Gus say Ulloa was brought in to play with cms therefore playing 2 strikers was on the agenda beforehand ,

As I recall it, Gus said he brought Ulloa in to take some of the pressure off CMS - I took that as playing instead of him sometimes.

Carlas mum wrote:
I am loosing the will to live, I thought we were looking for a loan for Macca, that is after we were getting a loan for Hoskins. How is it that other clubs get loan players quite easily but we always have problems.

Agree, other clubs seem to have no such problems in securing loans. Agree with MBTS, rest Bridge and Vicente, should have enough without them to beat Barnsley. Gonna need our Sunday best against Palace.

The search for loan players has seemed to be going on for ages, what a shame in my opinion that we did not go for George Boyd, really excellent attacking utility player, another good performance from him last night for Hull who look destied for that automatic place.The salary structure at Peterboro is one of the lowest so I would have thought he would have been within our budget we would have had chance to have him on loan until May and then bought if proven successful.

Carlas mum wrote:
I am loosing the will to live, I thought we were looking for a loan for Macca, that is after we were getting a loan for Hoskins. How is it that other clubs get loan players quite easily but we always have problems.

Some aren't good enough, the others (Kevin Phillips etc) are probably being paid silly money.

With Bridge still feeling his hamstring and Vicente not being a fan of the cold I feel that a 3-5-1-1 might be worth consideration this evening.

I'm thinking that with Tom in goal we could have a back 3 of Upson left, El abd middle and Greer right.

Sitting in front of them offering a bit of protection would be Bridcutt and Hammond with the other central berth going to David, Orlandi & Bruno giving some width.

Buckley can sit just behind Ulloa giving us the speed the team need and thus keep Barnsley sat deep for our counter attacks and Ulloa as previously mentioned would spearhead our goal threat.

For me it's solid defensively but offers a threat offensively too whilst we rest both Bridge and Vicente for Sunday.

Just my thoughts as always.

Uta

Would be very useful if Wilfried Zaha is suspended for Sunday's match. There's no doubt about that!

I would certainly hope that we rest Bridge if he does have a tight hamstring, as I will definitely feel a lot more comfortable having him versus Bolasie (or Zaha) on Sunday.

I think Bridge and the Vicente will both definitely be rested tonight with Hammond probably coming back in for Crofts.

I wonder if Greer may get some game time to protect El Abd from the suspension I have been told he may get for one more yellow card. We will need him versus Palace.

And finally, I think we may see either George Barker or Toby play some part tonight (or possibly even both!).

Does anybody know if that information IS true regarding a El Abd?

Maybe someone can enlighten me on the issue with Barnes? He received a red card from the ref that was walking away from him at the time and assumed that Barnes had intentionally tried to trip him up, the video evidence is not I am sure you will agree conclusive so both Barnes and the club are made to suffer from an incident that has not been proven to date, should the FA not have looked at an incident like this within say a 24 hour time frame? If Barnes is found by the FA not to have deliberately tried to trip the ref (although I doubt they will as they seem like our UK Government only interested if they can make money out of the deal) will we as a club and Barnes as the innocent party be given any compensation. We live in the UK not the USA and I thought you where innocent until proven guilty?

Captain Haddock wrote:
Does anybody know if that information IS true regarding a El Abd?

Its true el abd its on 9 yellows one more and he's suspended same as bridders suspension
UTA

A possible 13 games to go, which is a massive ask for any club to play with one forward, on the subject of Barnes, I would suspect a longer ban than 4 games, the FA will come down heavily on what is basically assault . And the second point is , if after a 4 match ban, what's to say he won't get sent off again? Leaving us with one striker!

Time to give KLL a chance up front, with his pace he could really upset the Barnsley defence and give him a timely remind he's not the forgotten man of BHA.

Rumours that we have rejected a request from Reading to talk to Gus.

Neville wrote:
The search for loan players has seemed to be going on for ages, what a shame in my opinion that we did not go for George Boyd, really excellent attacking utility player, another good performance from him last night for Hull who look destied for that automatic place.The salary structure at Peterboro is one of the lowest so I would have thought he would have been within our budget we would have had chance to have him on loan until May and then bought if proven successful.

A very decent player but don't we already have enough attacking midfielders? It's out-and-out strikers we're sorely lacking right now. I would have loved Kenwynne Jones here, until he started playing regularly.

It's obviously true that we only have one senior player who is a striker, but we do have others in the developemnt squad.

Whilst getting one or two on loan would have been the prefered option that didn't happen so now we have to use what we have and make the best of it.

Are Toby or Barker good enough, quick enough or even fit enough for first team soccer, well there is only one way to find out. Desperate times call for desperate measures, and man we are desperate.

Accepting that we need to put our best team out to face Palace Gus could go all in, play both Toby and Barker and put JFC on the starting lineup too.

Vicente, Ulloa, Buckley, along with Bridge could all stand down. Orlandi is another who could be replaced, let Kazenga try his luck. Now I know what I have just written is madness but wouldn't you rather try something as crazy as this against Barnsley and have the other guys ready for Palace.

Good morning everyone. What a happy bunch of BHA supporters we are, lol. Hopefully, tonights game will be called off giving Gus time to get a loan deal sorted out....? Be happy peoples, we still have a great club to support, Freeloaders is still in bed and it is only football.........:0)

UTA.........

Yogi wrote:
Time to give KLL a chance up front, with his pace he could really upset the Barnsley defence and give him a timely remind he's not the forgotten man of BHA.

Rumours that we have rejected a request from Reading to talk to Gus.

Has KLL ever played up front? It would certainly give us something different, but maybe Buckey would be a better bet if needed? (Yes, I know I said in my previous post he should stay on the right!!)

VegasSeagull wrote:
It's obviously true that we only have one senior player who is a striker, but we do have others in the developemnt squad.

Whilst getting one or two on loan would have been the prefered option that didn't happen so now we have to use what we have and make the best of it.

Are Toby or Barker good enough, quick enough or even fit enough for first team soccer, well there is only one way to find out. Desperate times call for desperate measures, and man we are desperate.

Accepting that we need to put our best team out to face Palace Gus could go all in, play both Toby and Barker and put JFC on the starting lineup too.

Vicente, Ulloa, Buckley, along with Bridge could all stand down. Orlandi is another who could be replaced, let Kazenga try his luck. Now I know what I have just written is madness but wouldn't you rather try something as crazy as this against Barnsley and have the other guys ready for Palace.

But Barnsley is our better chance for 3 points, so we really need to push for them tonight.

Yes you are right OldScrote, I was just thinking that maybe something as drastic as I have mentioned could get us the win and rest key players.

Toby and Barker are used to playing together, JFC too, so perhaps that fact alone might suggest that both of the strikers would have a better understanding of what each other might do with the ball.

Neville wrote:
The search for loan players has seemed to be going on for ages, what a shame in my opinion that we did not go for George Boyd, really excellent attacking utility player, another good performance from him last night for Hull who look destied for that automatic place.The salary structure at Peterboro is one of the lowest so I would have thought he would have been within our budget we would have had chance to have him on loan until May and then bought if proven successful.

Such is Boyd's form that he is in the Scotland squad now.
Loan strikers do seem to be the managers achiles heel. Wonderful city and stadium, several 'name' players attracted and yet we seem to be left behind while other clubs pounce. I would have thought top wages till the end of the season would have been the icing on the cake for someone out there.Old Scrote has posted about Kenwynne Jones - there was indeed a lost opportunity there well before he started playing regularly.
Notwithstanding that I'm feeling weary with the constant reference to 'resting' players, I'm sort of hopeful about tonight.

Money and a assured starting place are the problems to get a loanee, so that tells us that the targets were prem players, either current ones not getting much playing time or reserves looking to play.

Were not those two problems always going to be the two problems? If you try to borrow two strikers and their clubs want both to start 75% of the matches left to play, Ulloa is benched for 75% of the matches still to play, that aint gonna happen.

Borrow just one and maybe we end up back where we started should the loanee or Ulloa get injured.

I think we have to now forget about borrowing anyone, the terms of those loans are prohibitive. If another club ends up telling Gus who will start up front on OUR matches, well that would be totally off the wall.

We have what we have and now we must make the best of what we have. This will be a test of Gus's managerial skills.

Maybe Gus should change his philosophy for the run in and borrow a striker or 2 and play with 2 wingers , realise this means prob leaving bridders out or changing his role(cue mass hysteria for suggestion ) but what were the results of the 2 games he missed and what have been results since return, we can adapt and we have the attacking players to do this

poyet obviously doesnt think jfc,agerstrien or barker are up to the challenge or he wouldnt be looking for a loan striker.theyve been at the club long enough.if theyre not up to it,get rid.

Captain Haddock wrote:
Does anybody know if that information IS true regarding a El Abd?

Captain Haddock yes El Arb will definately receive an automatic ban when hepicks up his next booking..

the taffster wrote:
poyet obviously doesnt think jfc,agerstrien or barker are up to the challenge or he wouldnt be looking for a loan striker.theyve been at the club long enough.if theyre not up to it,get rid.

JFC is not a striker!!!!

mark by the sea wrote:
A possible 13 games to go, which is a massive ask for any club to play with one forward, on the subject of Barnes, I would suspect a longer ban than 4 games, the FA will come down heavily on what is basically assault . And the second point is , if after a 4 match ban, what's to say he won't get sent off again? Leaving us with one striker!

I agree MBTS that if the FA feel there is any substance to Barnes's 'tripping incident' (looks inconclusive) that he will be hit for a bigger than 4 game ban.
That means he would probably miss at least half of the remaining regular season games.
So unless a couple of strikers are signed we only need Ulloa to be injured and we wouldn't have any first team strikers availble.
I say two strikers since I agree with VegasSeagull's call that we need additional resource now not when the crisis deepens further.
I am disappointed that with our much improved scounting and backroom structure under Burke's leadership that we haven't brought in at least one striker already. Judging from this post the prospects of our doing so don't look promising,
I trust that the situation is resolved by the weekend and that we can look forward to a positive run to the end of the season unlike last year.
As for tonight we will have to make do with what we have. I imagine both Agdestein and Barker will be on the bench. Fingers crossed...

Why can`t you all just shut up and leave it to the man in charge.

He`s the manager
He knows the players
He has a complete understanding of their weaknesses and strengths
He understands the financial constraints the club is under
He has a good idea who he wants to bring in on loan.
He, and his staff know what players to select in all given games.

Do any of you have any of the above qualifications.
If you do..............

I can see the headlines in the Argus.

LATE 60`S OLD TIMER NEW MANAGER OF BHA.............. GUS MOVES ON...........

pappaK wrote:
Why can`t you all just shut up and leave it to the man in charge.

He`s the manager
He knows the players
He has a complete understanding of their weaknesses and strengths
He understands the financial constraints the club is under
He has a good idea who he wants to bring in on loan.
He, and his staff know what players to select in all given games.

Do any of you have any of the above qualifications.
If you do..............

I can see the headlines in the Argus.

LATE 60`S OLD TIMER NEW MANAGER OF BHA.............. GUS MOVES ON...........

Don't come on here then as every single comment on every single topic is people expressing their opinions on the Albion, team selection, tactics et al . It is a comments section to just that pass comment so don't log on and torture yourself with reading them !!

pappaK wrote:
Why can`t you all just shut up and leave it to the man in charge. He`s the manager He knows the players He has a complete understanding of their weaknesses and strengths He understands the financial constraints the club is under He has a good idea who he wants to bring in on loan. He, and his staff know what players to select in all given games. Do any of you have any of the above qualifications. If you do.............. I can see the headlines in the Argus. LATE 60`S OLD TIMER NEW MANAGER OF BHA.............. GUS MOVES ON...........

Do you not think that this website, and others like it, are for us old gits and younger fans to post our thoughts, guesses and opinions on.

What would you have us do, just say well done when we win and hard luck when we lose and leave it at that?

If you don't have a thought, guess or opinion then why do you come on here, there is no gun to your head making you do so.

When, oh when are we going to get a striker who is really direct and aggressive - like Kevin Bremner in the old days and Glenn Murray today? Lloyd Owusu who we got on loan from Cheltenham a few years ago was a natural predator. Most of the Championship sides have managed to acquire this type of player - someone who is prepared to muscle in where it hurts. The strikers we have acquired tend to lack that aggressive desire to get in front of the defender, or the positional sense to sniff out where the action is going to be. Glen Murray has this ability to get into the right position.Kevin Phillips likewise as did Clive Allen the old QPR and Spurs striker. Gus hasn't yet shown the ability to spot this type of player - and clearly underestimated this ability in Murray when he had him!

No Bridge tonight. One "jaded" striker and only kids to cover. A heavy pitch. A Barnsley team coming off a 5-0 shellacking and desperate for points to beat the drop.

Don't think I'll be taking 7-5 on the Albion winning...but we live in hope.

Bruce it seems to me that we have to sort out a team tonight based on the team we would want to put out against Palace, two matches one decision, not good is it.

Do you think that there is any chance that Gus will try the spanish way, zero strikers tonight?

Maybe Gus will dig out his boots and give us 45 minutes.

bruce beckett wrote:
No Bridge tonight. One "jaded" striker and only kids to cover. A heavy pitch. A Barnsley team coming off a 5-0 shellacking and desperate for points to beat the drop.

Don't think I'll be taking 7-5 on the Albion winning...but we live in hope.

Or, from a Barnsley perspective: No left-back, bottom of the table, playing a Brighton team coming off the back of a couple of poor results, desperate for points to get back in the play-offs... :-)

The teams at the bottom are always desperate for points, but they're at the bottom because they're not very good at gaining them. ALL teams are desperate for points, all of the time.

There are always two sides to every story, Scrote, and you make a very good case for the defence (or, hopefully, in our case, the attack).

Truth be told neither team is probably going into this match feeling very confident of victory.

Usually as I sit at my computer and each hour passes to kick off time I become more confident of a good result, today that is not happening.

I think my concerns stem from the fact that today I just can't get my head around what the line up will be.
Normally most of us pick eleven to start and for the most part we are right, for this one, I haven't got a clue.

As I mentioned earlier, today we have to field a team that can not only win but also allow us to have the right players available for the Palace match.

Ongoing injuries, player fatigue and of course the ban for Barnes, all on top of a schedule that is a tad crazy, and the fact that we have a chance of the playoffs, I don't envy Gus his task right now.

If Gus can get us into the playoffs with all the problems he is having to deal with then perhaps he is the right guy for Chelsea.

VegasSeagull wrote:
Usually as I sit at my computer and each hour passes to kick off time I become more confident of a good result, today that is not happening.

I think my concerns stem from the fact that today I just can't get my head around what the line up will be.
Normally most of us pick eleven to start and for the most part we are right, for this one, I haven't got a clue.

As I mentioned earlier, today we have to field a team that can not only win but also allow us to have the right players available for the Palace match.

Ongoing injuries, player fatigue and of course the ban for Barnes, all on top of a schedule that is a tad crazy, and the fact that we have a chance of the playoffs, I don't envy Gus his task right now.

If Gus can get us into the playoffs with all the problems he is having to deal with then perhaps he is the right guy for Chelsea.

Think the club need someone to make phone calls, Bolton have been linked with Scott Sinclair, with city paying the wage bill, yes we would have to play him every game, but I would be happy with that!
Palace picked up two strikers on loan, neither in the starting 11 at the weekend, I do hope we don't get a funny selection, as we did against west ham away last year, shocking side selected, hope Gus goes for broke tonight. Lose and beat palace is getting us close to missing out on the play offs, 6 points needed.

Im bored as ive had a day off due to snow, so here is my team if i was Gus tonight......Kuzszca
k
Bruno Greer Upson Calderon
Lopez Crofts Bridcutt Orlandi
Lualua Ulloa

Leave the likes of Vicente Bridge El-Abd Hammond Buckley for Sub/Sunday

jockithenoo wrote:

Captain Haddock wrote:
Does anybody know if that information IS true regarding a El Abd?

Its true el abd its on 9 yellows one more and he's suspended same as bridders suspension
UTA

Does it not happen if he doesn't pick up another yellow before the end of the month.Also could Mathew Upson help out up front if Gus cannot get a striker immediately?

rolivan wrote:

jockithenoo wrote:

Captain Haddock wrote:
Does anybody know if that information IS true regarding a El Abd?

Its true el abd its on 9 yellows one more and he's suspended same as bridders suspension
UTA

Does it not happen if he doesn't pick up another yellow before the end of the month.Also could Mathew Upson help out up front if Gus cannot get a striker immediately?

just found this

i) If a player accumulates 5 (five) recorded cautions in FTCM between the opening day of the Playing Season and the last day in February in the same Season, he will be suspended automatically for a period covering: -
One First Team Match

ii) If a player accumulates 5 (five) recorded cautions in FTCM between the opening day of the Playing Season and the last day of the same Season, he will be: -
"Warned as to his Future Conduct"

iii) A player who has already been subject to disciplinary action as a result of recording 5 (five) cautions and then goes on to record a further 5 (five) cautions during the same Season, will be subject to the following punishments: -

iv) If a player accumulates 10 (ten) recorded cautions in FTCM between the opening day of the Playing Season and the second Sunday of April in the same Season, he will be suspended automatically for a period covering: -
Two First Team matches

v) If a player accumulates 10 (ten) recorded cautions in FTCM between the opening day of the Playing Season and the last day of the same Season, he will be: -
"Severely Censured and Warned as to his future Conduct"

vi) If a player accumulates 15 (Fifteen) recorded cautions in FTCM between the opening date of the Playing Season and the last day of the same Season, he will be suspended automatically for a period covering: -
Three First Team matches

vii) A player who has already been subject to disciplinary action as a result of recording 5 (five), 10(ten) and 15 (fifteen) cautions, and who goes on to record 20 (twenty) cautions in FTCM in the same Season, shall be required to attend a meeting of a Disciplinary Commission, within 14 days of the date of the last caution. The Members of a Commission shall have the power to deal with the player in such manner as they deem fit. The same procedure will apply for every further 5(five) cautions recorded against a player.

One thing that strikes me as odd about the FA. On the basis that there is no evidence that Barnes deliberately tripped the ref wouldnt it be better to drop the matter for the sake of football's image? Surely the FA are shooting themselves in the foot by pursuing this? All it does is create the image that all footballers are brainless overpaid t_ssers and that cant be good for football. People might become disenchanted and not spend their hard earned on matches. The FA are creating a mess when theres no evidence just to support an incompetent ref

pte wrote:
One thing that strikes me as odd about the FA. On the basis that there is no evidence that Barnes deliberately tripped the ref wouldnt it be better to drop the matter for the sake of football's image? Surely the FA are shooting themselves in the foot by pursuing this? All it does is create the image that all footballers are brainless overpaid t_ssers and that cant be good for football. People might become disenchanted and not spend their hard earned on matches. The FA are creating a mess when theres no evidence just to support an incompetent ref

They will make a case against a championship player, special players or certain clubs get special treatment, Di Canio pushing the ref a perfect example, had that been elabd, he would have been banned for a season..
Proof won't come into it, they will except the refs word.
We don't know if Barnes made a comment prior or after the "trip"

Mark the FA, with most cases, have some sort of solid evidence one way or the other. That evidence is often video footage or the assistant ref also saw an event, so it's not just the word of the ref, and there is also the fifth official.

In the absense of all of the above we are left with just the word of the ref, is that enough, maybe maybe not.

The FA panel is not a court of law and the rules of evidence are not the same. None of us know what evidence the panel has heard, there may well be something from one or more of the other officials.

Referees tend to run diagonal lines when officiating in a game, this is done so as to keep them out of the action area but close enough to see what is occuring. The players tend to run different lines, if they didn't the diagonal run of the ref would be useless. When the action is close then yes the refs can get in the way of players and ball but in this case, it wasn't.

With the action being away from the ref and Barnes there wasn't a need for Barnes to be tracking the ref's run. I think those that sit on the panel will use their judgement to decide if Barnes caused the coming together by chasing after the ref rather than continuing with the match.

If they decide that he was indeed chasing after the ref they will probably hold him responsible, even if the contact was accidental.

VegasSeagull wrote:
Mark the FA, with most cases, have some sort of solid evidence one way or the other. That evidence is often video footage or the assistant ref also saw an event, so it's not just the word of the ref, and there is also the fifth official.

In the absense of all of the above we are left with just the word of the ref, is that enough, maybe maybe not.

The FA panel is not a court of law and the rules of evidence are not the same. None of us know what evidence the panel has heard, there may well be something from one or more of the other officials.

Referees tend to run diagonal lines when officiating in a game, this is done so as to keep them out of the action area but close enough to see what is occuring. The players tend to run different lines, if they didn't the diagonal run of the ref would be useless. When the action is close then yes the refs can get in the way of players and ball but in this case, it wasn't.

With the action being away from the ref and Barnes there wasn't a need for Barnes to be tracking the ref's run. I think those that sit on the panel will use their judgement to decide if Barnes caused the coming together by chasing after the ref rather than continuing with the match.

If they decide that he was indeed chasing after the ref they will probably hold him responsible, even if the contact was accidental.

Yes but will the FA say the ref is wrong? The only chance is if
1) video evidence can show it was accidental.
2) the ref changes his report and says he is not sure,
I have had run in with solictors over charging, go to law society! No chance in hell of winning.
Good news possibly is Zaha has until 4 pm to post a defence against the charge of indecent gestures to Leeds fans.. Will they ban him there and then? Lets hope so.

On the subject of tonight - If I were Gus tonight (which I know i'm not so go easy on me as is my first time posting!) I would throw both WB and KLL on from the start with LU upfront on his own and the central midfield three of LB, DL and AO. If LU is indeed a bit 'jaded' then give him all the supply he needs to score a couple of goals in the first half then replace him after and hey presto...job done!

weststandupperlacost
earmy wrote:
Im bored as ive had a day off due to snow, so here is my team if i was Gus tonight......Kuzszca

k
Bruno Greer Upson Calderon
Lopez Crofts Bridcutt Orlandi
Lualua Ulloa

Leave the likes of Vicente Bridge El-Abd Hammond Buckley for Sub/Sunday

Werstandupperlacoste
army I wouldn't be at all surprised if your suggested selection started. Your bench selection could, with Ankergren and either Agdestein or Barker added, also be a stong possibility. I wouldn't rule out both Agdestein and Barker being on the bench or even one of them starting.
I agree with a couple of other posters that it is probaby not worh risking Bridge or Vicente tonight.
I really hope Burk and his team are working overtime at trying to get at least one if not two strikers in on loan. The window doesn't stay open much longer.
UTA.

Welcome BigSmoke.

As you say, job done, maybe one problem though, we don't know if Kazenga is fit to play or not but if he is, then why not go for what you suggest.

ballantrrae wrote:

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earmy wrote:
Im bored as ive had a day off due to snow, so here is my team if i was Gus tonight......Kuzszca


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Bruno Greer Upson Calderon
Lopez Crofts Bridcutt Orlandi
Lualua Ulloa

Leave the likes of Vicente Bridge El-Abd Hammond Buckley for Sub/Sunday

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army I wouldn't be at all surprised if your suggested selection started. Your bench selection could, with Ankergren and either Agdestein or Barker added, also be a stong possibility. I wouldn't rule out both Agdestein and Barker being on the bench or even one of them starting.
I agree with a couple of other posters that it is probaby not worh risking Bridge or Vicente tonight.
I really hope Burk and his team are working overtime at trying to get at least one if not two strikers in on loan. The window doesn't stay open much longer.
UTA.

Think loan window closes in about 12 days time? Around the 21 st of march, crazy for us to go into this without a experienced forward, as for barker etc they have been loaned out to a much lower level and not pulled up any trees .

mark by the sea wrote:

ballantrrae wrote:

weststandupperlacost


earmy wrote:
Im bored as ive had a day off due to snow, so here is my team if i was Gus tonight......Kuzszca



k
Bruno Greer Upson Calderon
Lopez Crofts Bridcutt Orlandi
Lualua Ulloa

Leave the likes of Vicente Bridge El-Abd Hammond Buckley for Sub/Sunday

Werstandupperlacoste


army I wouldn't be at all surprised if your suggested selection started. Your bench selection could, with Ankergren and either Agdestein or Barker added, also be a stong possibility. I wouldn't rule out both Agdestein and Barker being on the bench or even one of them starting.
I agree with a couple of other posters that it is probaby not worh risking Bridge or Vicente tonight.
I really hope Burk and his team are working overtime at trying to get at least one if not two strikers in on loan. The window doesn't stay open much longer.
UTA.

Think loan window closes in about 12 days time? Around the 21 st of march, crazy for us to go into this without a experienced forward, as for barker etc they have been loaned out to a much lower level and not pulled up any trees .

MBTS I think you are right about the window closing on 21 March, a Thursday.
That means that from tomorrow Wednesday we've only got 8 days left to sign someone on loan. I still think we need two players.
If we lose against Palace I think we can write the play-offs off. Sunday is a must win game.
Unfortunately our last three results against the 'B' teams have only yielded one point when we might have had 5. C'est la Vie.

Yes Gus we have to include Lua Lua and be positive and attack from the start,just like being a goal down.How many teams get a quick goal and it turns out to win the game.As for the Barnsley game the Ref was useless,Delap got away with a sending off,and as for their penalty ElAbd was being draged by his arm two hands around him and he gets booked not the other player.We really have suffered with bad Refs especially the last two games and we have another reputed shocking ref for sunday,he sent two of our players of in quick sucession againt Burnley.Come on Gus get them fired up on Sunday and if you want to go to Reading we will have McDermitt we know he has an attacking mentality and games would be more exciting.