LuaLua targets derby victory (From The Argus)

Lua Lua targets derby victory !

I'm with ya Kaz - To be honest we're actually just targeting any victory, anywhere, anytime !

I'm afraid to say that history is repeating itself. Exactly the same thing happened last year. Not a single win in the last 10 games last season which cost at least a play off place. That pattern has started again losing the last two followed by certain defeat on Sunday. I said it last season and I'll say it again. Poyet needs to go a.s.a.p. For the second year running he is going to cost Brighton a good end to the season and a certain mid table finish.
Same old, same old, same old boring and predictable rubbish.

HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:
I'm afraid to say that history is repeating itself. Exactly the same thing happened last year. Not a single win in the last 10 games last season which cost at least a play off place. That pattern has started again losing the last two followed by certain defeat on Sunday. I said it last season and I'll say it again. Poyet needs to go a.s.a.p. For the second year running he is going to cost Brighton a good end to the season and a certain mid table finish.
Same old, same old, same old boring and predictable rubbish.

I am afraid History often repeats itself.
It has to......no one listens the first time.
;-)

Feeling very down like everyone else after the last three games and there is nothing more to add than has been said on this site already. However, Claude's comments about Peter Ward being better than Vicente on a previous article made me have a look for a Wardy video. Try http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=HFOrfVmpy

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It really cheered me up. If only we had someone now who could finish as Wardy used to!!

when you came on the other night kaz you changed the game ..so gus has got to play you from the off...buckers isnt firing at the moment.. and gus must have seen that the other night...

Kaz can make the difference Sunday.Why dont you just leave him in the team,as with our first choice players then they can settle into a team,all this swapping does not work we have not got European games to play,two games a week is easy if they are fit,then if there is an injury or a suspenstion bring on the subs.The old games put a lot of trust on a settled team.(were lucky to have subs in them days)Gus seems to think they want a rest after two games in a week.Threaten them with going down the Mines then you would see them run.

Claude Back wrote:

HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:
I'm afraid to say that history is repeating itself. Exactly the same thing happened last year. Not a single win in the last 10 games last season which cost at least a play off place. That pattern has started again losing the last two followed by certain defeat on Sunday. I said it last season and I'll say it again. Poyet needs to go a.s.a.p. For the second year running he is going to cost Brighton a good end to the season and a certain mid table finish.
Same old, same old, same old boring and predictable rubbish.

I am afraid History often repeats itself.
It has to......no one listens the first time.
;-)

You don't think Gus is locked into his own Groundhog Day, do you..? Just a thought.
Just a thought.
(This website is ike te Bermuda Triangle for missig lettrs)

Get it right on Sunday Gus,because if you mess the team and tactics about with this one you will prove your detractors right,apart from upsetting a lot of supporters. A good start would be to play Kaz from the start and attack them,dont overdo the pretty passing at the back,and give the lads some scope to show their individuality,and as has been said a few hundred times,although not pretty,root one works sometimes,and please lads a few more shots,everyone seems terrified to have a pop. UTA

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:

Claude Back wrote:

HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:
I'm afraid to say that history is repeating itself. Exactly the same thing happened last year. Not a single win in the last 10 games last season which cost at least a play off place. That pattern has started again losing the last two followed by certain defeat on Sunday. I said it last season and I'll say it again. Poyet needs to go a.s.a.p. For the second year running he is going to cost Brighton a good end to the season and a certain mid table finish.
Same old, same old, same old boring and predictable rubbish.

I am afraid History often repeats itself.
It has to......no one listens the first time.
;-)

You don't think Gus is locked into his own Groundhog Day, do you..? Just a thought.
Just a thought.
(This website is ike te Bermuda Triangle for missig lettrs)

You are so right, Willie, re the ltters.

Major Bloodboil wrote:
Feeling very down like everyone else after the last three games and there is nothing more to add than has been said on this site already. However, Claude's comments about Peter Ward being better than Vicente on a previous article made me have a look for a Wardy video. Try http://www.youtube.c


om/watch?v=HFOrfVmpy


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It really cheered me up. If only we had someone now who could finish as Wardy used to!!

Yes, Wardy used to excite us when he got the ball. You could actually hear the anticipation.
Cheer up,Major, this is a great Division to be in, far better than we knew before. Better than getting thrashed every week in a higher one. (Yes, I know we all want a shot at that though.)
The problem is that Gus is a victim of his own success. He has done really well but we all get frustrated because we think it could all have been so much better if he altered his way of thinking sometimes. That's the conundrum, the enigma that he is if you like.
Look at it this way, if we had never had him, we probably would not be where we are now. Remember, he has transformed the club and its contacts.
Actually, I think Gus would be better in the Premiership where players would have more ability to play as he wants. However, for now he will drive a lot of us crazy with his tactics and team selection but we have to balance that with what we have. Rough/smooth etc.

History certainly repeating itself here

HPR first pitched up last year with ten or so games to go forecasting our demise
and lo and behold here he/she is again

We still can do it and I won´t be giving up until the maths tell me otherwise

Two wingers on Sunday and we will win 3-1
Deluded maybe but loyal forever

Fans support needed more than ever now in what is arguably our biggest game ever against Palace

UTA.................
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Hang on hang on ffs are we seventh or seventeenth its not over by a long shot
We can still make the play offs if we don't go up we can certainly show players on gusses hit list we are going places as we have done so far .put down you're sad faces and pick yourself up dust yourself down and move on we've got the stripey nigels Sunday game on
UTA

Claude,

I've no doubt in my mind that Gus has had a very big part to play in making us the club we are today.
He has us playing the most attractive football I have ever witnessed whilst supporting our club and I think he can also take massive credit for attracting the likes of Vicente, Upson and Bridge to the Amex.

Having said all of this though, for me there is only 1 guy who we could not do without and that for me is our kingpin... A certain Mr Tony Bloom.
Our journey would certainly have been a different one without our current manager but for me and sorry to repeat myself but there is only 1 man that fits my idea of "legend" status.

Here's to many years with Tony at the helm.

Uta

Claude Back there's a lot of truth in your comments,but what I would like to point out that every week there are some very unexpected results occurring particularly in this very tight league.
There is soooo much doom & gloom amongst posters on here,personally I'm grateful to see the quality of football we are seeing this season,albeit we are certainly lacking goals!

Agreed Wardy days were very special.
Can't wait to experience the atmosphere on Sunday.Come on you "blues" as we used to sing.

Claude Back wrote:

Major Bloodboil wrote:
Feeling very down like everyone else after the last three games and there is nothing more to add than has been said on this site already. However, Claude's comments about Peter Ward being better than Vicente on a previous article made me have a look for a Wardy video. Try http://www.youtube.c



om/watch?v=HFOrfVmpy



N0
It really cheered me up. If only we had someone now who could finish as Wardy used to!!

Yes, Wardy used to excite us when he got the ball. You could actually hear the anticipation.
Cheer up,Major, this is a great Division to be in, far better than we knew before. Better than getting thrashed every week in a higher one. (Yes, I know we all want a shot at that though.)
The problem is that Gus is a victim of his own success. He has done really well but we all get frustrated because we think it could all have been so much better if he altered his way of thinking sometimes. That's the conundrum, the enigma that he is if you like.
Look at it this way, if we had never had him, we probably would not be where we are now. Remember, he has transformed the club and its contacts.
Actually, I think Gus would be better in the Premiership where players would have more ability to play as he wants. However, for now he will drive a lot of us crazy with his tactics and team selection but we have to balance that with what we have. Rough/smooth etc.

Good post Claude.

I do think that since Hoskins got injured followed by CMS, Ulloa settling in and others with niggling injuries, followed by three away games in 8 days and to top it with the Barnes incident, it is hardly a managers dream scenario.

For what it's worth the team worked hard against Bolton and deserved better, and should have got a result against Barnsley.

I would much prefer losing with a good performance than losing on a bad one. The main thing we have got is the ability to play the game and the only thing missing are the results.

Claude,

You've set me off now :)

I find myself sat here wondering how different things would be if Mr Blooms initial managerial target had taken the reigns instead of Gus.

I do of course refer to Steve Coppell.

He was a great manager for us and is still spoken of very highly by all that know and worked with him.
I think he is very different to Gus and the last few years would most certainly have looked a little different.

Do I think we would be where we are now with Steve at the helm though?

I do actually, yes...

Gus has done and will hopefully continue to do a great job for us. I just think that Mr Coppell might have been as successful.

Sorry to bore you all but this is a place to spout off ;)

Uta

Same old, same old, same old boring and predictable rubbish.

Yes you are HOVEPARKRESIDENT

Same old boring rubbish again.......

SMF20, the passing game is why TB hired him and this has been strictly enforced.

This is not saying that Coppell couldn't have installed this mentality into the club, but someone had to come in a go back to basics.

Brendon Rogers did a great job teaching the passing game at Swansea and this made it easy for Michael Laudrup to step in and continue with added magic, and they are probably playing the most exciting football in the Prem.

What we are doing now is important for the future whoever is the manager.

We are playing attractive football under Gus,but its not what i call exciting football that lifts you off your seat.

Subject Change. I was at the AMEX this afternoon and there was an Audi with Reg ending QPR. Any guesses for this car being there?

born again seagull wrote:
Subject Change. I was at the AMEX this afternoon and there was an Audi with Reg ending QPR. Any guesses for this car being there?

Well of course no doubt Mr.Zamora will be up front for us on Sun.!!

Harry Redknapp taking over? ;o)

Hovite wrote:
Harry Redknapp taking over? ;o)

No, please not Dirty 'arry.

May have been just been the MD from Queens Park Recycling Services discussing the implementation of a new ethical waste collection system at the Amex.

Well I've just been n QPR web site playrt profiles, bit strange, Zamoara not listed. Anyway, strikers are Johnson, Mackie, Remy, Hoilett, Jones, Bothroyd. Which of these is likely to coe on loan then?

Very droll, Hovite. It was probably just Peter Odemwingie hanging around in the hope of a loan deal. Must have changed the number plate over on his trip to Loftus Road.

born again seagull wrote:
Subject Change. I was at the AMEX this afternoon and there was an Audi with Reg ending QPR. Any guesses for this car being there?

Yes I saw that between the cars with the Reg MO 1 and ROON 1E

Andy Johnson?

championshipgull wrote:

born again seagull wrote:
Subject Change. I was at the AMEX this afternoon and there was an Audi with Reg ending QPR. Any guesses for this car being there?

Yes I saw that between the cars with the Reg MO 1 and ROON 1E

Why would I make it up, rarely post on here. The car was in Bennets field and then went round to the north stand area.

I've always liked John Carew who I believe doesn't have a club. Less paperwork than bringing in someone on loan. Big man to aim the ball at. Get on the phone Gus.

I think we might get a few decisions going our way in the future now there is an Argentinian Pope

Still on course for the play-offs need to win 6 out of the 9 remaining games..5 being at the Amex..Fortress Amex is Essential to the 5th play-off spot...25000 plus Goldstone (Amex) Warriors at the Amex must be worth a goal or two.. Starting on Sunday..

I like he Argus new background to the Albion page,nice touch.

Watching Gus' post match interview on Seagull player he seemed like he was on the point of bursting into tears, but maybe it was just the cold weather that made him look like that. He was certainly cut up about the result and could not understand why things had gone as bad as they had. Now the question is whether or not it's just bad luck or does it flow from the way we set up and play?
Even when KLL came on and WB moved into the middle with Ulloa and we drew level we still could not hold on and get a point. I just don't know the answer.
Here's hoping that it's just bad luck and that it will change on Sunday!

rolivan wrote:
I think we might get a few decisions going our way in the future now there is an Argentinian Pope

why?

oksouthstander wrote:
Still on course for the play-offs need to win 6 out of the 9 remaining games..5 being at the Amex..Fortress Amex is Essential to the 5th play-off spot...25000 plus Goldstone (Amex) Warriors at the Amex must be worth a goal or two.. Starting on Sunday..

Our home wins are no more than bottom of the league Bristol City; not as much of a fortress as it could be.

andyp123 wrote:

rolivan wrote:
I think we might get a few decisions going our way in the future now there is an Argentinian Pope

why?

It's a joke and a good one too.
I'm not going to explain it, you'll have to work it out yourself!
Maybe we can appoint the new Pope as our honourary club chaplain!

Right, here's my summary of the last few days:


Draw with Bristol City, very disappointing.

Defeat at Bolton, very unlucky. Balance of play suggested a draw. We dominated possession including in their half of the field, but couldn't create enough clear-cut chances. However, Crofts was very unlucky with an excellent shot well saved in the first half followed by the striking of the post. In the second half we went very close through Spanish Dave and Ulloa (yes he did have attempts on goal despite dubious stats to the contrary).

Ref Nigel Millar was a joke, as he always is. Gave no protection to us even when we had players hauled to the ground, studded slyly down the back of the legs and when Barnes was floored by a heavy shove to the side of his face in the penalty area a few mins before his red card.

Knew Millar would screw us over as usual. Just surprised it took so lon for someone (guess who?!!) to crack.

Barnsley, sounded as If we played fairly poorly, although it also sounded like a draw would've been the right result. Their penalty was an absolute joke. Saw the footage on sky sports news and it looked utterly comical. Annoying that they managed to capitalise from that unjustified penalty and yet we failed from our more justified one! Such is life.

And so to Palace. We are overdue some luck again, and I think the time is just perfect for Sunday. I think we're going to win. Kings for the day are likely to be a refreshed Vicente, Kaz (who seemed to make quite a difference on Tuesday night when he came on) and Buckley, who I think is starting to get his match sharpness.

I expect to be drinking a number of celebratory Guinnesses after the match (plus a few Harvey's for good measure, of course!).

The appointment of Pawson as ref for Sunday is unlikely to help us, but let's hope he is less one-sided in his decision-making than he was for that Burnley home match last season. I think we'll win regardless though.




By the way, it is the Seagulls Over London meeting tomorrow at 7:30 for anyone interested - Ballantrrae, sorry I didn't let you know sooner… have been very busy the last couple of weeks and it slipped my mind to contact you.

Lets face it we've been unlucky. If justice had played a part 7 points would have been ours from the last 3. This would have put us firmly in the frame for automatic promotion. The injuries sustained by the squad have severely depleted us. The bans/sendings off totally avoidable. Gus knows that he will probably lose the services of Bridge and Vicente at the end of the season. No wonder he is despondent at the moment. He is just like the supporters! Fed up and looking for excuses. He is not a god - he's a fallible human like the rest of us.

I like the vibes coming from Kazenga. With his spirit and the undoubted talent in the side, notwithstanding the injuries, we can still make the play offs - and we are good enough to win them.

UTA

Like your optimism re we should have had 7 points. Am not so sure. Do agree about Gus though . We are all a bit down , the last three games have knocked the stuffing out of us all.
But truth be told before last three games and for long periods in win over Huddersfield we were not playing as well as the first half of the season.
I was hoping am still am that we can stay in touch for a play off spot and hit form 5 games from the end thus being on song for the play offs.
That said all the injuries and suspensions I think have lessened our chances considerably and that is the disappointing thing for all,team Gus and fans.
But we are not going down,yes personnel will change a bit next year ,but as much as it might be sad to lose a few who knows who we might gain.

born again seagull wrote:
Subject Change. I was at the AMEX this afternoon and there was an Audi with Reg ending QPR. Any guesses for this car being there?

HPRS mate

QUEENSPARKRESIDENT

UTA,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Claude Back wrote:

Major Bloodboil wrote:
Feeling very down like everyone else after the last three games and there is nothing more to add than has been said on this site already. However, Claude's comments about Peter Ward being better than Vicente on a previous article made me have a look for a Wardy video. Try http://www.youtube.c



om/watch?v=HFOrfVmpy



N0
It really cheered me up. If only we had someone now who could finish as Wardy used to!!

Yes, Wardy used to excite us when he got the ball. You could actually hear the anticipation.
Cheer up,Major, this is a great Division to be in, far better than we knew before. Better than getting thrashed every week in a higher one. (Yes, I know we all want a shot at that though.)
The problem is that Gus is a victim of his own success. He has done really well but we all get frustrated because we think it could all have been so much better if he altered his way of thinking sometimes. That's the conundrum, the enigma that he is if you like.
Look at it this way, if we had never had him, we probably would not be where we are now. Remember, he has transformed the club and its contacts.
Actually, I think Gus would be better in the Premiership where players would have more ability to play as he wants. However, for now he will drive a lot of us crazy with his tactics and team selection but we have to balance that with what we have. Rough/smooth etc.

Yes I agree with that, Claude. Gus is a bit of an enigma. He isn't the finished product, and he is still learning his trade. While he does so he will make mistakes.

He has greatly improved us both as a club and the team since his arrival and particularly with regard to our status within the football structure, but I do think that there is one element with which he struggles and that is in having his team deal successfully with the physical nature of some teams in this division. We often don't seem to have an answer for it as appeared to be the case at Bolton. Nigel Miller doing his job would have helped of course, but nonetheless we could counteract this better than we do.

I certainly agree with your notion that our style of football would better suit the Premier League. I have often cited Swansea as a very good example for what we are trying to do (I'm sure Tony B is deliberately replicating that model for success)...pass our way out of League One, establish and gradually improve ourselves in The Championship, culminating in a promotion via the play-offs.

When we finally do make The Prem - and we will! - we can look to Swansea again to see how much at home their style suits to that division. They haven't exactly struggled since they have been there, have they?!

Hovite wrote:

Claude Back wrote:

Major Bloodboil wrote:
Feeling very down like everyone else after the last three games and there is nothing more to add than has been said on this site already. However, Claude's comments about Peter Ward being better than Vicente on a previous article made me have a look for a Wardy video. Try http://www.youtube.c




om/watch?v=HFOrfVmpy




N0
It really cheered me up. If only we had someone now who could finish as Wardy used to!!

Yes, Wardy used to excite us when he got the ball. You could actually hear the anticipation.
Cheer up,Major, this is a great Division to be in, far better than we knew before. Better than getting thrashed every week in a higher one. (Yes, I know we all want a shot at that though.)
The problem is that Gus is a victim of his own success. He has done really well but we all get frustrated because we think it could all have been so much better if he altered his way of thinking sometimes. That's the conundrum, the enigma that he is if you like.
Look at it this way, if we had never had him, we probably would not be where we are now. Remember, he has transformed the club and its contacts.
Actually, I think Gus would be better in the Premiership where players would have more ability to play as he wants. However, for now he will drive a lot of us crazy with his tactics and team selection but we have to balance that with what we have. Rough/smooth etc.

Good post Claude.

I do think that since Hoskins got injured followed by CMS, Ulloa settling in and others with niggling injuries, followed by three away games in 8 days and to top it with the Barnes incident, it is hardly a managers dream scenario.

For what it's worth the team worked hard against Bolton and deserved better, and should have got a result against Barnsley.

I would much prefer losing with a good performance than losing on a bad one. The main thing we have got is the ability to play the game and the only thing missing are the results.

Quite so.

bruce beckett wrote:
Very droll, Hovite. It was probably just Peter Odemwingie hanging around in the hope of a loan deal. Must have changed the number plate over on his trip to Loftus Road.

Haha!

andyp123 wrote:

oksouthstander wrote:
Still on course for the play-offs need to win 6 out of the 9 remaining games..5 being at the Amex..Fortress Amex is Essential to the 5th play-off spot...25000 plus Goldstone (Amex) Warriors at the Amex must be worth a goal or two.. Starting on Sunday..

Our home wins are no more than bottom of the league Bristol City; not as much of a fortress as it could be.

In that case, let's replicated Bristol City's home record from their last six games in our own final 5 games at The Amex. That would pretty much guarantee us the play-offs. Sorted!