Gus tells Albion: Relish this derby (From The Argus)

SeagullOverSelsey wrote:
We'll only relish this game if we stuff the palarse! Mackie or Johnson from QPR on loan? We need both!

mark by the sea wrote:
Shame there will be 2000 seats empty, under planning the seats can't be sold till next season! Classic! As for Barnes 6 - 8 match ban I would have thought.

BobbyLaverick wrote:
"Tuesday's 1-0 defeat at Barnsley"?

We have the squad to beat anyone in the Championship, even with the present injuries and suspensions. The biggest question mark is against the methods and systems we adopt during our matches, because we are not yet in the Premier League, but attempt to play as if we were.

I am still bitterly disappointed from watching us lose at Oakwell, when we had the game by the scruff of the neck, but could not create or change to make that final push for victory. And why was that do you think?

Captain Haddock wrote:
Can't wait for Sunday now. The troubles of the last couple of weeks are over and we can get back to winning ways. This division is full of twists and turns and I'm sure we are about to witness one.

Would of course like to batter Palace, but by the same token wouldn't it be perfect timing for us to break the hoodoo of coming from behind to win a game at last? Giving them a 4-1 thrashing following a Murray goal would be perfect! ;0)

championshipgull wrote:
I am really looking forward to this game. We have seen some brilliant games at the Amex this year. I am going to be ecstatic if we win and if we don’t, it is not the end of the world.

mark by the sea wrote:

Captain Haddock wrote:
Can't wait for Sunday now. The troubles of the last couple of weeks are over and we can get back to winning ways. This division is full of twists and turns and I'm sure we are about to witness one.

Would of course like to batter Palace, but by the same token wouldn't it be perfect timing for us to break the hoodoo of coming from behind to win a game at last? Giving them a 4-1 thrashing following a Murray goal would be perfect! ;0)

Yes think it's time the prawn sandwich brigade opened there gobs and got behind the side! Last few games has been really quiet!

Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS) wrote:

championshipgull wrote:
I am really looking forward to this game. We have seen some brilliant games at the Amex this year. I am going to be ecstatic if we win and if we don’t, it is not the end of the world.

Wholeheartedly agree. The result has often taken second place to the football and, win, lose or draw, if we play well and show the opposition what home support is all about, I will go home a happy man. Like I've said before, for Palace, this is as good as it gets but for us, it's only the beginning of an exciting journey.

UTA

Captain Haddock wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:

Captain Haddock wrote: Can't wait for Sunday now. The troubles of the last couple of weeks are over and we can get back to winning ways. This division is full of twists and turns and I'm sure we are about to witness one. Would of course like to batter Palace, but by the same token wouldn't it be perfect timing for us to break the hoodoo of coming from behind to win a game at last? Giving them a 4-1 thrashing following a Murray goal would be perfect! ;0)

Yes think it's time the prawn sandwich brigade opened there gobs and got behind the side! Last few games has been really quiet!

Yup I agree. Need to shift this blimmin' sore throat in time to rouse the WSU Army....we've been very quiet lately.

mark by the sea wrote:

BobbyLaverick wrote:
"Tuesday's 1-0 defeat at Barnsley"?

We have the squad to beat anyone in the Championship, even with the present injuries and suspensions. The biggest question mark is against the methods and systems we adopt during our matches, because we are not yet in the Premier League, but attempt to play as if we were.

I am still bitterly disappointed from watching us lose at Oakwell, when we had the game by the scruff of the neck, but could not create or change to make that final push for victory. And why was that do you think?

I think all reason we have shown great quality and mental strength at clutching defeat from the jaws of victory!
We have to many flaky players who either can't perform every week, ie Hammond, dicker crofts, or we have the sick note brigade, Buckley, Vicente Hoskins ( his last injury a disaster for him)
We then have players who are on the edge, Barnes elabd , they either give silly free kicks away or are a accident about to happen..
We finally have the penalty taking, the only words I can think of is shambles.
Imagine going to penalties for a place in the premiership! Would we score one?
Finally not getting a target man for half the season and a back up centre back till late have cost us goals in both boxes.
I suppose that's the negatives, good clear out , and bring in 3 really good pros and theremiership is very much on.

pablobrowno wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:

BobbyLaverick wrote: "Tuesday's 1-0 defeat at Barnsley"? We have the squad to beat anyone in the Championship, even with the present injuries and suspensions. The biggest question mark is against the methods and systems we adopt during our matches, because we are not yet in the Premier League, but attempt to play as if we were. I am still bitterly disappointed from watching us lose at Oakwell, when we had the game by the scruff of the neck, but could not create or change to make that final push for victory. And why was that do you think?

I think all reason we have shown great quality and mental strength at clutching defeat from the jaws of victory! We have to many flaky players who either can't perform every week, ie Hammond, dicker crofts, or we have the sick note brigade, Buckley, Vicente Hoskins ( his last injury a disaster for him) We then have players who are on the edge, Barnes elabd , they either give silly free kicks away or are a accident about to happen.. We finally have the penalty taking, the only words I can think of is shambles. Imagine going to penalties for a place in the premiership! Would we score one? Finally not getting a target man for half the season and a back up centre back till late have cost us goals in both boxes. I suppose that's the negatives, good clear out , and bring in 3 really good pros and theremiership is very much on.

Fair but negative Mark. I agree on a lot though, we obviously don't have the budget to pay for top quality consultant pros however we only needed a goalscorer this season and we'd be top so actually the performances have been pretty consistently good. Just watched extended Barnsley highlights, Ulloa's penalty I thought was actually quite good, just a great save. Also Lualua was fantastic we MUST play him!! One thing for sure we must GET BEHIND THE BOYS ON SUNDAY!!!!

The lev wrote:
Limping into the premier league is not the way to go, the squad is too weak as a whole , the best option is to stay in the championship for one more season get 3 quality players in (centre back aggressive midfielder and a striker) clear out 5 or 6 players, add 3 young guns from the youth set up , storm the championship 2013/2014, and aim for mid table in premier league 2014/2015.
……… easy.

fansince57 wrote:

The lev wrote:
Limping into the premier league is not the way to go, the squad is too weak as a whole , the best option is to stay in the championship for one more season get 3 quality players in (centre back aggressive midfielder and a striker) clear out 5 or 6 players, add 3 young guns from the youth set up , storm the championship 2013/2014, and aim for mid table in premier league 2014/2015.
……… easy.

Spot on - agree with you on the players we need. But this assumes we can persuade Bridge to sign on for another season, and that we give new contracts to Bridcutt & David Lopez.

Easy? With Gus it always seems to be "complicated".

tug509 wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a chance of a striker coming in before we play the delinquents. Thanks. UTA

VegasSeagull wrote:

tug509 wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a chance of a striker coming in before we play the delinquents. Thanks. UTA

Hi Tug.I guess that there is always a chance of a loan deal being done but I would think it very doubtful.

Gus said a couple of days ago that money, and the parent club's or player's insistence of playing every game, have been two stumbling blocks.

We have a break coming up for international matches, I guess that period of time might see something happen.

tug509 wrote:

fansince57 wrote:

The lev wrote: Limping into the premier league is not the way to go, the squad is too weak as a whole , the best option is to stay in the championship for one more season get 3 quality players in (centre back aggressive midfielder and a striker) clear out 5 or 6 players, add 3 young guns from the youth set up , storm the championship 2013/2014, and aim for mid table in premier league 2014/2015. ……… easy.

Spot on - agree with you on the players we need. But this assumes we can persuade Bridge to sign on for another season, and that we give new contracts to Bridcutt & David Lopez. Easy? With Gus it always seems to be "complicated".

Sorry guys,how can it be wrong to go up,to me it doesn`t matter how!. Of course the squad will need drastic changes,but thats what all the money is for,when we get there. I dont care if we get there by hook or by fluke,once we are there,we will build a stronger side. UTA

mark by the sea wrote:
Shame there will be 2000 seats empty, under planning the seats can't be sold till next season! Classic! As for Barnes 6 - 8 match ban I would have thought.

The lev wrote:

tug509 wrote:

fansince57 wrote:

The lev wrote: Limping into the premier league is not the way to go, the squad is too weak as a whole , the best option is to stay in the championship for one more season get 3 quality players in (centre back aggressive midfielder and a striker) clear out 5 or 6 players, add 3 young guns from the youth set up , storm the championship 2013/2014, and aim for mid table in premier league 2014/2015. ……… easy.

Spot on - agree with you on the players we need. But this assumes we can persuade Bridge to sign on for another season, and that we give new contracts to Bridcutt & David Lopez. Easy? With Gus it always seems to be "complicated".

Sorry guys,how can it be wrong to go up,to me it doesn`t matter how!. Of course the squad will need drastic changes,but thats what all the money is for,when we get there. I dont care if we get there by hook or by fluke,once we are there,we will build a stronger side. UTA

The problem is the gap, a full strength QPR team would beat us most weeks and they have spent most of the year rock bottom. I agree that there would be a huge increase in cash flow but you just can’t go we will have you , you and you and expect to compete with the quality players week in week out, we would be bottom and get relegated and be shell shocked as we watched ourselves get smashed most weeks. Better to build the team with quality and sell the dream to good players , then add 3 top top top draw players with the massive extra cash. That way we survive our first season and push on from there……………

…

SMF20 wrote:
Big smoke.

I like your team for Sunday. I too would like to see both Buckley and Lua Lua on the wings to start.
My differing thoughts from yours would be the 2 in the middle in front of Bridcutt.
For me it would be Vicente and Orlandi. We all know Vicente is quite magnificent on his day and when fit but I also think that Orlandi is far more influential in the middle than he is on the wing.
David at right back would also be my choice.
Like you I know it's not going to happen but wouldn't it be nice if just for once argus went for it and played this line up from the off... Yes it is attack minded but as most will agree, attack is the best form of defence.
On a finishing note and for those more defensive minded. The safety first team has resulted in lots of draws and as the last 3 games have shown, does not always guarantee a return.
It's time to release the shackles and go for it, lets let the defenders and Bridcutt do the defending and the rest push for the goals and points we really do need.
If we finish 7th this way ill accept we just are not good enough... If we limp to 7th with a number of draws ill feel disappointed and wonder what might have been.

Either way Uta

SMF20 wrote:

SMF20 wrote:
Big smoke.

I like your team for Sunday. I too would like to see both Buckley and Lua Lua on the wings to start.
My differing thoughts from yours would be the 2 in the middle in front of Bridcutt.
For me it would be Vicente and Orlandi. We all know Vicente is quite magnificent on his day and when fit but I also think that Orlandi is far more influential in the middle than he is on the wing.
David at right back would also be my choice.
Like you I know it's not going to happen but wouldn't it be nice if just for once argus went for it and played this line up from the off... Yes it is attack minded but as most will agree, attack is the best form of defence.
On a finishing note and for those more defensive minded. The safety first team has resulted in lots of draws and as the last 3 games have shown, does not always guarantee a return.
It's time to release the shackles and go for it, lets let the defenders and Bridcutt do the defending and the rest push for the goals and points we really do need.
If we finish 7th this way ill accept we just are not good enough... If we limp to 7th with a number of draws ill feel disappointed and wonder what might have been.

Either way Uta

May I just add that none of the top 4 teams in English football play with an anchor midfielder let alone 2.

Uta

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:

SMF20 wrote:

SMF20 wrote:
Big smoke.

I like your team for Sunday. I too would like to see both Buckley and Lua Lua on the wings to start.
My differing thoughts from yours would be the 2 in the middle in front of Bridcutt.
For me it would be Vicente and Orlandi. We all know Vicente is quite magnificent on his day and when fit but I also think that Orlandi is far more influential in the middle than he is on the wing.
David at right back would also be my choice.
Like you I know it's not going to happen but wouldn't it be nice if just for once argus went for it and played this line up from the off... Yes it is attack minded but as most will agree, attack is the best form of defence.
On a finishing note and for those more defensive minded. The safety first team has resulted in lots of draws and as the last 3 games have shown, does not always guarantee a return.
It's time to release the shackles and go for it, lets let the defenders and Bridcutt do the defending and the rest push for the goals and points we really do need.
If we finish 7th this way ill accept we just are not good enough... If we limp to 7th with a number of draws ill feel disappointed and wonder what might have been.

Either way Uta

May I just add that none of the top 4 teams in English football play with an anchor midfielder let alone 2.

Uta

And only one of them ships fewer than a goal a game...

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
Marcos Painter has been recalled from Bournemouth - I take it that Bridge will not be fit for Sunday?

Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:
SMF20 - I think that's more to do with the quality in the rest of the team. We need someone like Bridders, maybe they don't. I think you might have cause and effect the wrong way around? :-)

dave from bexill wrote:
SMF20. Is anchor the same as central?

SMF20 wrote:

dave from bexill wrote:
SMF20. Is anchor the same as central?

Hi Dave,

Anchor as in a holding central midfielder who rarely ventures forward.

WestStander17 wrote:

Captain Haddock wrote:

mark by the sea wrote:

Captain Haddock wrote: Can't wait for Sunday now. The troubles of the last couple of weeks are over and we can get back to winning ways. This division is full of twists and turns and I'm sure we are about to witness one. Would of course like to batter Palace, but by the same token wouldn't it be perfect timing for us to break the hoodoo of coming from behind to win a game at last? Giving them a 4-1 thrashing following a Murray goal would be perfect! ;0)

Yes think it's time the prawn sandwich brigade opened there gobs and got behind the side! Last few games has been really quiet!

Yup I agree. Need to shift this blimmin' sore throat in time to rouse the WSU Army....we've been very quiet lately.

Count me in, Captain Haddock!!! Can't wait! The atmosphere hasn't been as good for a month or 2. If us fans get complacent, who are we to moan at the players! Lets get right behind them all on Sunday and all the remaining games!

SEAGULLS!!!!!

The lev wrote:

tug509 wrote:

fansince57 wrote:

The lev wrote: Limping into the premier league is not the way to go, the squad is too weak as a whole , the best option is to stay in the championship for one more season get 3 quality players in (centre back aggressive midfielder and a striker) clear out 5 or 6 players, add 3 young guns from the youth set up , storm the championship 2013/2014, and aim for mid table in premier league 2014/2015. ……… easy.

Spot on - agree with you on the players we need. But this assumes we can persuade Bridge to sign on for another season, and that we give new contracts to Bridcutt & David Lopez. Easy? With Gus it always seems to be "complicated".

Sorry guys,how can it be wrong to go up,to me it doesn`t matter how!. Of course the squad will need drastic changes,but thats what all the money is for,when we get there. I dont care if we get there by hook or by fluke,once we are there,we will build a stronger side. UTA

The problem is the gap, a full strength QPR team would beat us most weeks and they have spent most of the year rock bottom. I agree that there would be a huge increase in cash flow but you just can’t go we will have you , you and you and expect to compete with the quality players week in week out, we would be bottom and get relegated and be shell shocked as we watched ourselves get smashed most weeks. Better to build the team with quality and sell the dream to good players , then add 3 top top top draw players with the massive extra cash. That way we survive our first season and push on from there……………

…

VegasSeagull wrote:

tug509 wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a chance of a striker coming in before we play the delinquents. Thanks. UTA

Hi Tug.I guess that there is always a chance of a loan deal being done but I would think it very doubtful.

Gus said a couple of days ago that money, and the parent club's or player's insistence of playing every game, have been two stumbling blocks.

We have a break coming up for international matches, I guess that period of time might see something happen.

SMF20 wrote:
Big smoke.

I like your team for Sunday. I too would like to see both Buckley and Lua Lua on the wings to start.
My differing thoughts from yours would be the 2 in the middle in front of Bridcutt.
For me it would be Vicente and Orlandi. We all know Vicente is quite magnificent on his day and when fit but I also think that Orlandi is far more influential in the middle than he is on the wing.
David at right back would also be my choice.
Like you I know it's not going to happen but wouldn't it be nice if just for once argus went for it and played this line up from the off... Yes it is attack minded but as most will agree, attack is the best form of defence.
On a finishing note and for those more defensive minded. The safety first team has resulted in lots of draws and as the last 3 games have shown, does not always guarantee a return.
It's time to release the shackles and go for it, lets let the defenders and Bridcutt do the defending and the rest push for the goals and points we really do need.
If we finish 7th this way ill accept we just are not good enough... If we limp to 7th with a number of draws ill feel disappointed and wonder what might have been.

Either way Uta