Poyet frustrated by loan striker search (From The Argus)
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Poyet frustrated by loan striker search
10:05am Friday 15th March 2013 in Sport By Andy Naylor
Gus Poyet is disappointed not to have signed a loan striker
Albion boss Gus Poyet is disappointed and surprised that he has not been able to land a loan striker.
The Seagulls need another forward, with Craig Mackail-Smith and Will Hoskins out for the season with injuries and Ashley Barnes banned.
Poyet told The Argus: "I'm quite badly disappointed with this, because I didn't expect so many players to be in different clubs not willing to come and play. I'm surprised, I thought it would be much easier.
"Players, clubs, money, nothing came together, nothing, and unfortunately the players available today are not good enough for me."
Leo Ulloa will again be the only senior recognised striker available to Poyet for Sunday's derby against Crystal Palace.
Poyet has give no guarantees that another forward will be signed before the loan window closes towards the end of the month.
"It depends what you want," he said. "If we are going to attempt to reach the play-offs we need a player that costs money we don't have and the quality of player that we want to bring being willing to come, so it's not just get a player from the Conference because we need a striker and pray that he is going to be fantastic.
"I prefer to trust George Barker and Toby (Agdestein) and Solly March and the players that we have got here than to bring someone who for me is not good enough."
Comments(76)
Neville
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10:20am Fri 15 Mar 13
mark by the sea
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10:24am Fri 15 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex
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10:28am Fri 15 Mar 13
pjwilk wrote:Well, that was quick! Predictable, but quick. Who's to say GM wouldn't have been one of the injured/suspended if he'd stayed?
Would have been much easier to keep Glen Murray.If we loose this one it could be taxi for Gus.
If the issues is that some players will have it in their contracts to play every game on loan then no wonder there are problems getting someone in. We don't need a Paynter or a Vokes, but we also don't need another manager dictating part of our line-up.
MBTS, who do you think is out there, good enough to make a difference and willing to come, even if they might start on the bench? Got any names?
mark by the sea
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10:32am Fri 15 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Kenwyn jones, two lads at Qpr not getting games, kenwyn jones 50k a week, stoke want shot, how about loan at 20k a week? With 100k if we get promoted? Fees for loans are now common.. Scott Sinclair is looking to play games! Bolton made inquiry , so why not us?
pjwilk wrote:Well, that was quick! Predictable, but quick. Who's to say GM wouldn't have been one of the injured/suspended if he'd stayed?
Would have been much easier to keep Glen Murray.If we loose this one it could be taxi for Gus.
If the issues is that some players will have it in their contracts to play every game on loan then no wonder there are problems getting someone in. We don't need a Paynter or a Vokes, but we also don't need another manager dictating part of our line-up.
MBTS, who do you think is out there, good enough to make a difference and willing to come, even if they might start on the bench? Got any names?
Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
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10:33am Fri 15 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex
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10:35am Fri 15 Mar 13
mark by the sea wrote:Kenwynne Jones has been playing (although not always starting), Scott Sinclair is a winger, Mackie (if he's one of the QPR players) is more of a wide player and hardly prolific.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Kenwyn jones, two lads at Qpr not getting games, kenwyn jones 50k a week, stoke want shot, how about loan at 20k a week? With 100k if we get promoted? Fees for loans are now common.. Scott Sinclair is looking to play games! Bolton made inquiry , so why not us?
pjwilk wrote:Well, that was quick! Predictable, but quick. Who's to say GM wouldn't have been one of the injured/suspended if he'd stayed?
Would have been much easier to keep Glen Murray.If we loose this one it could be taxi for Gus.
If the issues is that some players will have it in their contracts to play every game on loan then no wonder there are problems getting someone in. We don't need a Paynter or a Vokes, but we also don't need another manager dictating part of our line-up.
MBTS, who do you think is out there, good enough to make a difference and willing to come, even if they might start on the bench? Got any names?
Gee Jay
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10:36am Fri 15 Mar 13
There is no incentive for them or their over inflated egos. If they came to Brighton they might have to put in a shift.
mr punch
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10:37am Fri 15 Mar 13
mark by the sea wrote:Absolutely mark. We are in trouble with strikers so the obvious thing would be to take a short loan to get us out the soft stuff if need be. Personally I don't think it shows much faith in players like Barker does it. Will be interested to see if KLL starts on Sunday, Gus needs to realise that we need to go for the throat.. in every game
There are players out there, Gus has 7 days to do his job.
dave from bexill
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10:39am Fri 15 Mar 13
pjwilk wrote:How original
Would have been much easier to keep Glen Murray.If we loose this one it could be taxi for Gus.
mark by the sea
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10:39am Fri 15 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Scott Sinclair is not a winger, same as Buckley he plays off the target man,
mark by the sea wrote:Kenwynne Jones has been playing (although not always starting), Scott Sinclair is a winger, Mackie (if he's one of the QPR players) is more of a wide player and hardly prolific.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Kenwyn jones, two lads at Qpr not getting games, kenwyn jones 50k a week, stoke want shot, how about loan at 20k a week? With 100k if we get promoted? Fees for loans are now common.. Scott Sinclair is looking to play games! Bolton made inquiry , so why not us?
pjwilk wrote:Well, that was quick! Predictable, but quick. Who's to say GM wouldn't have been one of the injured/suspended if he'd stayed?
Would have been much easier to keep Glen Murray.If we loose this one it could be taxi for Gus.
If the issues is that some players will have it in their contracts to play every game on loan then no wonder there are problems getting someone in. We don't need a Paynter or a Vokes, but we also don't need another manager dictating part of our line-up.
MBTS, who do you think is out there, good enough to make a difference and willing to come, even if they might start on the bench? Got any names?
I agree we need a target man, but a quality loan of that stature would be a massive lift.
BobbyLaverick
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10:40am Fri 15 Mar 13
If the back-up first team squad players are not considered good enough, then why are they still on the club's payroll?
I agree with Mark that there are players out there, but also realise that many would not improve our situation at this time.
Eets complicated!
rolivan
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10:41am Fri 15 Mar 13
Gee Jay wrote:There will be players begging for jobs next season hope they get whats coming to them
I suspect a lot of the strikers out there, who are not playing regularly in the Premiership,are (unlike CMS) quite happy to do a bit of training, sit on the bench, get paid an inflated sum, and go clubbing.
There is no incentive for them or their over inflated egos. If they came to Brighton they might have to put in a shift.
VegasSeagull
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10:41am Fri 15 Mar 13
A striker living in the north just might not want to come down south for two or three months, leaving his family behind.
Others might only agree to come if his name on the starting sheet is assured.
It might be that the parent club want us to pay to large a slice of his wages.
Some that would come just might not be right for Brighton, players like Owen spring to mind.
Borrowing a player is much more difficult than buying one, especially as the season is coming to a close.
It's not like we are looking for a center back or a midfield player, we need a goal scoring striker and even when looking to buy they are hard to get.
Chances are the player we might get is not going to be one that is scoring goals, 'now,' why would his club let him go if he were. We are probably looking at a slightly older player who has scored goals in the past but can't get on the team sheet on a regular basis.
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Old Scrote of the Amex
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10:45am Fri 15 Mar 13
mark by the sea wrote:A lift perhaps, but a lift worth £20k/week? He's not really the type of player we need. Like Mackie he's good but not a goal-scorer. Half his goals have been penalties so he'd only score if David was off the pitch.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Scott Sinclair is not a winger, same as Buckley he plays off the target man,
mark by the sea wrote:Kenwynne Jones has been playing (although not always starting), Scott Sinclair is a winger, Mackie (if he's one of the QPR players) is more of a wide player and hardly prolific.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Kenwyn jones, two lads at Qpr not getting games, kenwyn jones 50k a week, stoke want shot, how about loan at 20k a week? With 100k if we get promoted? Fees for loans are now common.. Scott Sinclair is looking to play games! Bolton made inquiry , so why not us?
pjwilk wrote:Well, that was quick! Predictable, but quick. Who's to say GM wouldn't have been one of the injured/suspended if he'd stayed?
Would have been much easier to keep Glen Murray.If we loose this one it could be taxi for Gus.
If the issues is that some players will have it in their contracts to play every game on loan then no wonder there are problems getting someone in. We don't need a Paynter or a Vokes, but we also don't need another manager dictating part of our line-up.
MBTS, who do you think is out there, good enough to make a difference and willing to come, even if they might start on the bench? Got any names?
I agree we need a target man, but a quality loan of that stature would be a massive lift.
lotsofducks
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10:46am Fri 15 Mar 13
mark by the sea
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10:49am Fri 15 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Yes over say 8 weeks its 160k, but we are talking about 100 million to get into the premiership, we need to be clinical in front of goal... That the difference between 8 place and a top 4 finish.
mark by the sea wrote:A lift perhaps, but a lift worth £20k/week? He's not really the type of player we need. Like Mackie he's good but not a goal-scorer. Half his goals have been penalties so he'd only score if David was off the pitch.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Scott Sinclair is not a winger, same as Buckley he plays off the target man,
mark by the sea wrote:Kenwynne Jones has been playing (although not always starting), Scott Sinclair is a winger, Mackie (if he's one of the QPR players) is more of a wide player and hardly prolific.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Kenwyn jones, two lads at Qpr not getting games, kenwyn jones 50k a week, stoke want shot, how about loan at 20k a week? With 100k if we get promoted? Fees for loans are now common.. Scott Sinclair is looking to play games! Bolton made inquiry , so why not us?
pjwilk wrote:Well, that was quick! Predictable, but quick. Who's to say GM wouldn't have been one of the injured/suspended if he'd stayed?
Would have been much easier to keep Glen Murray.If we loose this one it could be taxi for Gus.
If the issues is that some players will have it in their contracts to play every game on loan then no wonder there are problems getting someone in. We don't need a Paynter or a Vokes, but we also don't need another manager dictating part of our line-up.
MBTS, who do you think is out there, good enough to make a difference and willing to come, even if they might start on the bench? Got any names?
I agree we need a target man, but a quality loan of that stature would be a massive lift.
Willie, Willie Irvine
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10:51am Fri 15 Mar 13
However, knowing Gus there will now be an announcement at 4pm today presenting his latest striker acquisition!
ballantrrae
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10:51am Fri 15 Mar 13
This might just be the time to gamble. It is also not the time to be fussy. At the least we need back up for Ulloa. So recruiting a 19 - 20 year old might be a solution and who knows we might get the next Zamora or Wellbeck. I know we have youngsters like Barker, Agdestein and Dickenson (loan at AFC Wimbledon having scored in each of their last 3 games) but they are already on the books.
I still feel we should be trying to bring in two forwards but that obviously is wishful thinking given the difficulties in even signing one
It is ulikely now that we will be able to acquire anyone until early next week which will be 2 weeks from when CMS was injured. That's 2 weeks worth of salary we won't have to fund when and if someone joins. This increases the chance of our budget stretching to meet another club's requirements.
I'll keeping hoping Poyet, Burke & Co can pull something off.
Thoughts anyone eg Captain Haddock, SMF20, Tug 509, Hovite, VegasSeagull, Neville, Dr Baldhead etc. ?
markymark03
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10:52am Fri 15 Mar 13
- My hero!
VegasSeagull
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10:52am Fri 15 Mar 13
Not all players want to come to Brighton, not all players are willing to play at a lower level. Those that think Gus has not make an approach for certain players don't know whether he has or has not made an approach.
A prem player that a club might let go on loan might see that loan deal as a step toward the exit door. Some players might prefer to work hard in training and try to convince his boss that he is worth keeping.
SMF20
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11:02am Fri 15 Mar 13
ballantrrae wrote:I still think Carew could do a job for the games remaining and he is without a club.
I am disappointed as clearly Poyet is but just wonder if he has inquired about any of the young strikers on the fringes of Premiership teams. I also wonder if Poyet's policy of only normally starting with one striker is working against the Albion.
This might just be the time to gamble. It is also not the time to be fussy. At the least we need back up for Ulloa. So recruiting a 19 - 20 year old might be a solution and who knows we might get the next Zamora or Wellbeck. I know we have youngsters like Barker, Agdestein and Dickenson (loan at AFC Wimbledon having scored in each of their last 3 games) but they are already on the books.
I still feel we should be trying to bring in two forwards but that obviously is wishful thinking given the difficulties in even signing one
It is ulikely now that we will be able to acquire anyone until early next week which will be 2 weeks from when CMS was injured. That's 2 weeks worth of salary we won't have to fund when and if someone joins. This increases the chance of our budget stretching to meet another club's requirements.
I'll keeping hoping Poyet, Burke & Co can pull something off.
Thoughts anyone eg Captain Haddock, SMF20, Tug 509, Hovite, VegasSeagull, Neville, Dr Baldhead etc. ?
Lets get him in today, get him fit and make the most of his experience and power for the run in.
Add to Carew 1 loan striker such as Guidetti, Cole or perhaps the young Sunderland lad and we will be more than covered.
Just my thoughts as always.
Uta
ballantrrae
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11:04am Fri 15 Mar 13
mark by the sea wrote:Scott Sinclair I think is an option definately worth considering if the budget allows. He would potentially compliment Ulloa well and would be a better fit in the wide role that CMS was being asked to adopt when coming off the bench recently.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Yes over say 8 weeks its 160k, but we are talking about 100 million to get into the premiership, we need to be clinical in front of goal... That the difference between 8 place and a top 4 finish.
mark by the sea wrote:A lift perhaps, but a lift worth £20k/week? He's not really the type of player we need. Like Mackie he's good but not a goal-scorer. Half his goals have been penalties so he'd only score if David was off the pitch.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Scott Sinclair is not a winger, same as Buckley he plays off the target man,
mark by the sea wrote:Kenwynne Jones has been playing (although not always starting), Scott Sinclair is a winger, Mackie (if he's one of the QPR players) is more of a wide player and hardly prolific.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Kenwyn jones, two lads at Qpr not getting games, kenwyn jones 50k a week, stoke want shot, how about loan at 20k a week? With 100k if we get promoted? Fees for loans are now common.. Scott Sinclair is looking to play games! Bolton made inquiry , so why not us?
pjwilk wrote:Well, that was quick! Predictable, but quick. Who's to say GM wouldn't have been one of the injured/suspended if he'd stayed?
Would have been much easier to keep Glen Murray.If we loose this one it could be taxi for Gus.
If the issues is that some players will have it in their contracts to play every game on loan then no wonder there are problems getting someone in. We don't need a Paynter or a Vokes, but we also don't need another manager dictating part of our line-up.
MBTS, who do you think is out there, good enough to make a difference and willing to come, even if they might start on the bench? Got any names?
I agree we need a target man, but a quality loan of that stature would be a massive lift.
Of course we would still need a central striker to cover Ulloa for the rest of the season.
VegasSeagull
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11:04am Fri 15 Mar 13
If you think about what we are looking for and then consider our chances of getting a deal done that meets our needs, it almost looks impossible.
Player has to be match fit as he is going to be needed right from the get go.
Needs to be a striker.
Needs to be a striker who has a proven record of scoring in open play.
Needs to currently be with a club that is at our level or above.
Needs to be a striker who can score goals and those goals are not needed by his parent club.
Needs to be available at a price we can afford or one that we are prepared to pay.
If he is married and has children he needs to be prepared to leave them behind for maybe three months.
Not a lot to ask for is it?
Yep I would look at prem clubs DS players, as you know I have been banging thr drum for one such lad, but as yet nothing says we are looking at him.
Clean Sheet
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11:04am Fri 15 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex
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11:05am Fri 15 Mar 13
VegasSeagull
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11:10am Fri 15 Mar 13
SMF20 wrote:SMF20, you are assuming that we have not made an approach for the players that you have mentioned.
ballantrrae wrote: I am disappointed as clearly Poyet is but just wonder if he has inquired about any of the young strikers on the fringes of Premiership teams. I also wonder if Poyet's policy of only normally starting with one striker is working against the Albion. This might just be the time to gamble. It is also not the time to be fussy. At the least we need back up for Ulloa. So recruiting a 19 - 20 year old might be a solution and who knows we might get the next Zamora or Wellbeck. I know we have youngsters like Barker, Agdestein and Dickenson (loan at AFC Wimbledon having scored in each of their last 3 games) but they are already on the books. I still feel we should be trying to bring in two forwards but that obviously is wishful thinking given the difficulties in even signing one It is ulikely now that we will be able to acquire anyone until early next week which will be 2 weeks from when CMS was injured. That's 2 weeks worth of salary we won't have to fund when and if someone joins. This increases the chance of our budget stretching to meet another club's requirements. I'll keeping hoping Poyet, Burke & Co can pull something off. Thoughts anyone eg Captain Haddock, SMF20, Tug 509, Hovite, VegasSeagull, Neville, Dr Baldhead etc. ?I still think Carew could do a job for the games remaining and he is without a club. Lets get him in today, get him fit and make the most of his experience and power for the run in. Add to Carew 1 loan striker such as Guidetti, Cole or perhaps the young Sunderland lad and we will be more than covered. Just my thoughts as always. Uta
I assume you would agree that it is possible that we did make an approach and that our offer was declined, yes?
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Neville
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11:12am Fri 15 Mar 13
Perhaps its time to give Barker a game, he looked good for the v short time he was on and will be keen as mustard to impress. I always remember Ward being given his debut and look what happened.
rolivan
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11:22am Fri 15 Mar 13
VegasSeagull
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11:22am Fri 15 Mar 13
I can understand the club prefering to borrow a player with more experience but getting that player seems to be a non starter.
All the prem clubs know we are looking to borrow, if they have players that they want to farm out they would be calling us, not us calling them.
I am sure that we have been in negotiations with payers and clubs and for what ever reason, a deal could not be reached.
We have the international match break coming up, if no deal is done during that period then I would prefer that Gus forgets about borrowing and concentrates his efforts around those we have.
Clean Sheet
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11:26am Fri 15 Mar 13
hannover seagull
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11:26am Fri 15 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Scrotey
MBTS: as you say we need someone clinical in front of goal - Scott Sincair is NOT that player. I have been saying for ages how much I'd like Kenwynne Jones but I can't see him coming here unless it was for FAR more game time than he's currently getting at Stoke. Genuine goal-scorers are a very rare breed indeed.
I am the other big Kenwynne Jones fan on here
Can not think of anyone better suited to our style of play, a real rough house of a player who would excell in the championship.
Come on Stoke you will finish mid table anyway so let the lad go
UTA.................
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SeagullOverSelsey
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11:28am Fri 15 Mar 13
SeagullOverSelsey
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11:35am Fri 15 Mar 13
I too agree re Kenwynne Jones.His goal tally of 83 in 303 games speaks for itself!
dave from bexill
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12:15pm Fri 15 Mar 13
The Phantom
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12:19pm Fri 15 Mar 13
ballantrrae wrote:Scott Sinclair is a winger - every credible on-line database refers to him as a winger (so is Buckley for that matter). Probably the worst signing of the season - never likely to be good enough for Manchester City so is obviously just happy to take the wages. If he had any desire to play he would have been loaned out to a premier league team in January. Sad to say he is one of those players who is a legend in his own mind and content to coin the money and schwank around with a Z list celebrity girlfriend. Not an option. Kenwynne Jones is playing regularly for Stoke City - hardly likely to let him go especially as the permanently injured Michael Owen is one of the back up strikers. Mackie and Boothroyd (already turned us down once) are still regularly involved at QPR - they are hardly likely to release their back-up strikers when Remy and Zamora are both injury prone.
mark by the sea wrote:Scott Sinclair I think is an option definately worth considering if the budget allows. He would potentially compliment Ulloa well and would be a better fit in the wide role that CMS was being asked to adopt when coming off the bench recently.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Yes over say 8 weeks its 160k, but we are talking about 100 million to get into the premiership, we need to be clinical in front of goal... That the difference between 8 place and a top 4 finish.
mark by the sea wrote:A lift perhaps, but a lift worth £20k/week? He's not really the type of player we need. Like Mackie he's good but not a goal-scorer. Half his goals have been penalties so he'd only score if David was off the pitch.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Scott Sinclair is not a winger, same as Buckley he plays off the target man,
mark by the sea wrote:Kenwynne Jones has been playing (although not always starting), Scott Sinclair is a winger, Mackie (if he's one of the QPR players) is more of a wide player and hardly prolific.
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Kenwyn jones, two lads at Qpr not getting games, kenwyn jones 50k a week, stoke want shot, how about loan at 20k a week? With 100k if we get promoted? Fees for loans are now common.. Scott Sinclair is looking to play games! Bolton made inquiry , so why not us?
pjwilk wrote:Well, that was quick! Predictable, but quick. Who's to say GM wouldn't have been one of the injured/suspended if he'd stayed?
Would have been much easier to keep Glen Murray.If we loose this one it could be taxi for Gus.
If the issues is that some players will have it in their contracts to play every game on loan then no wonder there are problems getting someone in. We don't need a Paynter or a Vokes, but we also don't need another manager dictating part of our line-up.
MBTS, who do you think is out there, good enough to make a difference and willing to come, even if they might start on the bench? Got any names?
I agree we need a target man, but a quality loan of that stature would be a massive lift.
Of course we would still need a central striker to cover Ulloa for the rest of the season.
Signing a new on-loan striker is not as simple as some people think - when it gets to this time of the year, anyone who is any good is playing. I am sure there are options out there similar to a Billy Painter or a Sam Vokes but basically they are players who are not good enough.
SMF20
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12:19pm Fri 15 Mar 13
VegasSeagull wrote:Im not assuming anything.
SMF20 wrote:SMF20, you are assuming that we have not made an approach for the players that you have mentioned. I assume you would agree that it is possible that we did make an approach and that our offer was declined, yes? .ballantrrae wrote: I am disappointed as clearly Poyet is but just wonder if he has inquired about any of the young strikers on the fringes of Premiership teams. I also wonder if Poyet's policy of only normally starting with one striker is working against the Albion. This might just be the time to gamble. It is also not the time to be fussy. At the least we need back up for Ulloa. So recruiting a 19 - 20 year old might be a solution and who knows we might get the next Zamora or Wellbeck. I know we have youngsters like Barker, Agdestein and Dickenson (loan at AFC Wimbledon having scored in each of their last 3 games) but they are already on the books. I still feel we should be trying to bring in two forwards but that obviously is wishful thinking given the difficulties in even signing one It is ulikely now that we will be able to acquire anyone until early next week which will be 2 weeks from when CMS was injured. That's 2 weeks worth of salary we won't have to fund when and if someone joins. This increases the chance of our budget stretching to meet another club's requirements. I'll keeping hoping Poyet, Burke & Co can pull something off. Thoughts anyone eg Captain Haddock, SMF20, Tug 509, Hovite, VegasSeagull, Neville, Dr Baldhead etc. ?I still think Carew could do a job for the games remaining and he is without a club. Lets get him in today, get him fit and make the most of his experience and power for the run in. Add to Carew 1 loan striker such as Guidetti, Cole or perhaps the young Sunderland lad and we will be more than covered. Just my thoughts as always. Uta
A fellow poster asked my opinion on something and i gave my opinion on who might do a job for us.
I have no idea if Gus and his team have made any approaches and to who.
The players i mention are just a couple i think might do a job for us.
Uta
Hovite
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12:24pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Even with a loan for a few games there would be no real incentive for a player to get in the "must get promoted mood".
This does not mean that the club shouldn't try, they have to try, but this doesn't mean we will get one.
rolivan
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12:27pm Fri 15 Mar 13
SeagullOverSelsey wrote:Thats about 11 or 12 a season or 1 every 3 and a half games approx that speaks for itself
Scrotey,
I too agree re Kenwynne Jones.His goal tally of 83 in 303 games speaks for itself!
patcham albion
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12:34pm Fri 15 Mar 13
dave from bexill
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12:49pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Hovite
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12:57pm Fri 15 Mar 13
pte
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1:01pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Clean Sheet wrote:So what are you suggesting? We put the other Adam (shove the wall out the way) El Abd up front? Would be interesting
Adam Virgo? Did well for us last time in the Champ in front of goal. Did so well in fact that we made £1.5 mil as a consequence.
If Gus has any long term targets then maybe his best bet is to arrange a loan to buy deal
pablobrowno
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1:03pm Fri 15 Mar 13
SeagullOverSelsey
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1:10pm Fri 15 Mar 13
rolivan wrote:Got any constructive suggestions then!
SeagullOverSelsey wrote:Thats about 11 or 12 a season or 1 every 3 and a half games approx that speaks for itself
Scrotey,
I too agree re Kenwynne Jones.His goal tally of 83 in 303 games speaks for itself!
Willie, Willie Irvine
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1:10pm Fri 15 Mar 13
VegasSeagull
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1:16pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:I haven't checked but I am prepared to accept your post as correct.
FA announces Barnes guitly - gets banned for three extra games.
I guess Barnes didn't defend the charge so I guess by not doing so he is admitting the charge, or at least it would appear so.
I guess that's his season done and dusted.
Willie, Willie Irvine
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1:17pm Fri 15 Mar 13
VegasSeagull wrote:See FA.com
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote: FA announces Barnes guitly - gets banned for three extra games.I haven't checked but I am prepared to accept your post as correct. I guess Barnes didn't defend the charge so I guess by not doing so he is admitting the charge, or at least it would appear so. I guess that's his season done and dusted.
VegasSeagull
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1:23pm Fri 15 Mar 13
VegasSeagull wrote:This comment of mine is wrong. I was not aware that Barnes did not have th right to a personal hearing, he did have the right to a written explanation of his actions.
Willie, Willie Irvine wrote: FA announces Barnes guitly - gets banned for three extra games.I haven't checked but I am prepared to accept your post as correct. I guess Barnes didn't defend the charge so I guess by not doing so he is admitting the charge, or at least it would appear so. I guess that's his season done and dusted.
I don't know if Barnes availed himself of this option.
Clean Sheet
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1:24pm Fri 15 Mar 13
pte wrote:Sorry, tongue firmly in cheek when I posted this. Didn't expect anyone to read it let alone take it seriously, sorry again.
Clean Sheet wrote: Adam Virgo? Did well for us last time in the Champ in front of goal. Did so well in fact that we made £1.5 mil as a consequence.So what are you suggesting? We put the other Adam (shove the wall out the way) El Abd up front? Would be interesting If Gus has any long term targets then maybe his best bet is to arrange a loan to buy deal
pappaK
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1:42pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Would you gamble X amount on strikers.
All I have heard in the past and I am sure T B as well, not good to buy in the Transfer window or in the Loan period.
Why are you pushing for it to happen?
The word Impatience comes to mind..
T B been dealt the cards he has and I think is going to stick with them,get Gus to shuffle the cards a bit,add a joker or two.Why deal in a dead market.
Think about it , it may be a bit painful , but consolidation might be in their minds..
T B is a poker player,but most of all a business man .He might gamble ,run with the cards dealt him,hope a few teams fold and they make the playoffs..
If not Investment/Liabiliti
es Kosher....
You play another season Solvent...
Then playing soccer is not for fun.
It`s For The Glory.
T B, for sure is looking at the big picture,although he might love BHA ,
someone some day will want this club with its good business set up,as you Pom`s say,As sure a God made little apples
Have a good one Boys and Girls.....
rolivan
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1:53pm Fri 15 Mar 13
SeagullOverSelsey wrote:No I am one of those boring old **** that is happy to leave the running of the Club to the people who are being paid to do so and a thoroughly good job too.Although I must say I did make a few Constructive Suggestions re the Catering as that is where my Expertise lies however it didn't seem to bother the previous Caterers and as the current ones are only on a Temporary basis I was asked to wait until a new contract is issued before contacting those concerned
rolivan wrote:Got any constructive suggestions then!
SeagullOverSelsey wrote:Thats about 11 or 12 a season or 1 every 3 and a half games approx that speaks for itself
Scrotey,
I too agree re Kenwynne Jones.His goal tally of 83 in 303 games speaks for itself!
bruce beckett
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2:02pm Fri 15 Mar 13
After reading this story, I have a better appreciation of the problems of getting a suitable striker in on loan.
I can also recall some of the loan signings we have made over the past couple of the seasons. Barndoor Billy, Vokes, the two wonder kids from Man City to name but four. They didn't work out too well, did they?
On the other side of the coin, Bridge and Upson (who nobody ever seems to mention) have been brilliant for us.
I just think that on this occasion, bearing in mind the long-term injuries to CMS and Hoskins, and now the seven-game ban to Barnes, Gus may have to lower his sights slightly. Because if Ulloa goes down in the next nine games, we're up the brown creek without a paddle.
Spike Milligan's old piano legs
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2:04pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Gus has Rogers junior at BHA so must have influence!
SeagullOverSelsey
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2:10pm Fri 15 Mar 13
rolivan wrote:I asked you for suggestions re the striker situation and had nothing to do with the catering!
SeagullOverSelsey wrote:No I am one of those boring old **** that is happy to leave the running of the Club to the people who are being paid to do so and a thoroughly good job too.Although I must say I did make a few Constructive Suggestions re the Catering as that is where my Expertise lies however it didn't seem to bother the previous Caterers and as the current ones are only on a Temporary basis I was asked to wait until a new contract is issued before contacting those concerned
rolivan wrote:Got any constructive suggestions then!
SeagullOverSelsey wrote:Thats about 11 or 12 a season or 1 every 3 and a half games approx that speaks for itself
Scrotey,
I too agree re Kenwynne Jones.His goal tally of 83 in 303 games speaks for itself!
You are " happy to leave the running of the club etc etc" and I agree totally as I think Gus is doing a good job etc but this is a comments and opinions forum which at the moment is largely about Albion's lack of strikers which I would have thought was more important than your expertise in catering! End of....
Eddy B
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2:20pm Fri 15 Mar 13
mr punch wrote:Agree, start with KLL, have faith in the squad back up on the bench (Toby, Barker, Dickinson, Forster Caskey). Also what happened to the Latvian lad?
mark by the sea wrote:Absolutely mark. We are in trouble with strikers so the obvious thing would be to take a short loan to get us out the soft stuff if need be. Personally I don't think it shows much faith in players like Barker does it. Will be interested to see if KLL starts on Sunday, Gus needs to realise that we need to go for the throat.. in every game
There are players out there, Gus has 7 days to do his job.
Eddy B
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2:25pm Fri 15 Mar 13
BobbyLaverick wrote:Agree - shouldn't the back up squad be good enough? If not, what's the point, we may aswell have a smaller squad of higher quality players. An injection of keen young blood, eg. Barker, could be the ticket.
Perhaps the right striker is already in the squad, but hasn't been given the opportunity to shine?
If the back-up first team squad players are not considered good enough, then why are they still on the club's payroll?
I agree with Mark that there are players out there, but also realise that many would not improve our situation at this time.
Eets complicated!
Hovite
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2:31pm Fri 15 Mar 13
bruce beckett wrote:Yep when we got Abdul Razak, he didn't want to play because it was his girlfriend's birthday.
Enjoying the banter on here, as I always do.
After reading this story, I have a better appreciation of the problems of getting a suitable striker in on loan.
I can also recall some of the loan signings we have made over the past couple of the seasons. Barndoor Billy, Vokes, the two wonder kids from Man City to name but four. They didn't work out too well, did they?
On the other side of the coin, Bridge and Upson (who nobody ever seems to mention) have been brilliant for us.
I just think that on this occasion, bearing in mind the long-term injuries to CMS and Hoskins, and now the seven-game ban to Barnes, Gus may have to lower his sights slightly. Because if Ulloa goes down in the next nine games, we're up the brown creek without a paddle.
He is just happy to get paid for being in Man C's reserves. He got 25min's against Barnsley when Man C was 4-0 up. Says it all really.
VegasSeagull
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2:33pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Eddy B
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2:33pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Far gull
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2:34pm Fri 15 Mar 13
We have spent the budget ( or gus has).
Anything else spent is really a big gamble if ,we had been say cemented in 5 or 4 in the league then may be but the odds (or gods) are not really with us.
If they had been our current injured or banned strikers would have coverted more earlier in the season.
Give the DS players a go ,think of the incentive that would give all the other DS squad players next season ,so this is a whole club thing to.??
Eddy B
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2:34pm Fri 15 Mar 13
VegasSeagull wrote:Yes, left back or central I understand. But with injuries to Greer, Bruno and Bridge, and now El Abd banned I was wondering if he was still here! Isn't he an international already?
The Latvian lad is a defender.
rolivan
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2:40pm Fri 15 Mar 13
SeagullOverSelsey wrote:We can make all the suggestions we want about recruitment and it will have no effect however when it comes to the catering we can; otherwise they wouldn't have terminated the last company's contract if people didn't complain.We bring in Kenwyn Jones and he might get us 3 goals in 9 games if you think that is enough you are welcome to your opinion and likewise so am I;
rolivan wrote:I asked you for suggestions re the striker situation and had nothing to do with the catering!
SeagullOverSelsey wrote:No I am one of those boring old **** that is happy to leave the running of the Club to the people who are being paid to do so and a thoroughly good job too.Although I must say I did make a few Constructive Suggestions re the Catering as that is where my Expertise lies however it didn't seem to bother the previous Caterers and as the current ones are only on a Temporary basis I was asked to wait until a new contract is issued before contacting those concerned
rolivan wrote:Got any constructive suggestions then!
SeagullOverSelsey wrote:Thats about 11 or 12 a season or 1 every 3 and a half games approx that speaks for itself
Scrotey,
I too agree re Kenwynne Jones.His goal tally of 83 in 303 games speaks for itself!
You are " happy to leave the running of the club etc etc" and I agree totally as I think Gus is doing a good job etc but this is a comments and opinions forum which at the moment is largely about Albion's lack of strikers which I would have thought was more important than your expertise in catering! End of....
Hovite
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2:40pm Fri 15 Mar 13
That was a right windup getting him down here.
Most of the loan players we have had have been more trouble than they are worth.
franckiep en france
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2:42pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Hovite
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2:44pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Eddy B wrote:I think we are owed a trade from Brendon Rogers, he can have his son back and give us a player on loan for the rest of the season.
Brendan Rogers has now said no truth in loan rumours - just rubbish papers making up column inches. There must be 100s of top quality players in the reserves in the premiership never getting a game. But they are presumably on premiership wages (but this would continue if out on loan I understand, eg. Bridge). Take Arsenal for example - with all their problems recently you rarely hear of Bendtner, Chamak, Arshavin, & Gervinho these days? The 7th in line striker at Man Utd would probably be the top Championship scorer. Equally will be interesting to see if G Murray makes an impact in the premiership if Palace go up. Lambert seems to have done quite well this year following on from his championship exploits.
At the end of the season we give the loaned player back and he can keep Anton.
VegasSeagull
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3:06pm Fri 15 Mar 13
The real problem is that we can't rest Ulloa when we need to and we don't have backup for him, well not senior player back up.
Very often we only played one striker even when we had our full compliment of strikers available, Barnes played more as an attacking midfielder.
We might play a 4-1-4-1pattern against Palace and if we do, then we have what we need. One game at a time and worry about our shortage when we have to.
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Falmer Wizard
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4:22pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Lets hope Poyet will give our lone striker the benifit of our best wing men rather than packing the side with midfielders in an effort to keep the score down.
SL5 Seagull
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4:41pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Issue may be that no decisions like this would be made until they get a new manager / is Roberts just a journalist now and happy to take it easy until his footballing contract runs down?
Jamesy_Dodger
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4:46pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Seagull John
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8:22pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Hovite wrote:I don't see why reading a thread on The Argus should disqualify them from the matchday squad!
If Barker or Toby are reading this, they don't deserve to make the matchday squad.
Hovite
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9:34pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Seagull John
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11:39pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Hovite wrote:Wow-didn't expect that to be taken literally. It was a joke!
They should be concentrating on football matters, training etc, not keeping up to date with the Argus comments.
2ndCitySeagull
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1:26am Sat 16 Mar 13
Thinking about where we've loaned from before, I'd like to suggest Man City's Scott Sinclair, Swansea's Luke Moore or West Broms Odemwingee all fit and capable of scoring?
Captain Haddock
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1:26am Sat 16 Mar 13
pjwilk wrote:Zzzzzzz.
Would have been much easier to keep Glen Murray.If we loose this one it could be taxi for Gus.
And on your second point: no way.
tonytowner1
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8:46am Sat 16 Mar 13
pjwilk says...
10:14am Fri 15 Mar 13