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Barnes suspended for seven matches
1:27pm Friday 15th March 2013 in Sport By Andy Naylor
Ashley Barnes was sent off at Bolton last Saturday
Albion striker Ashley Barnes has been given a seven-match ban by the FA for trying to trip referee Nigel Miller in last Saturday's 1-0 defeat at Bolton.
The FA have slapped an extra three games on Barnes' initial punishment, due to the serious nature of his red card offence.
Barnes had already received a four-match suspension, three for his dismissal by Miller and one because he had already been sent-off this season in his previous start at Sheffield Wednesday.
His ban began with Tuesday's 2-1 defeat at Barnsley, so he will miss the next six games.
Barnes will now only be available for the final three fixtures of the Seagulls' Championship promotion run-in, beginning at home to Blackpool on April 20.
Comments(61)
Tony the tiger eastbourne
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1:40pm Fri 15 Mar 13
markymark03
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1:42pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Too many Harveys
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1:42pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Bish May Turn
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1:43pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Spike Milligan's old piano legs
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1:47pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Gee Jay
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1:54pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Perhaps he will have the time now to watch footage of Albion games this season and reflect on his body language and attitute when on the pitch, and hopefully learn a lesson or two, and stop seeing himself as a victim.
His record of behavior will hold his football career back, unless he can change.
Neville
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1:55pm Fri 15 Mar 13
The player you refer to was Colin Kazim-Richards and nothing has been done as yet about his gesturing.
The Phantom
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2:02pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Eddy B
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2:05pm Fri 15 Mar 13
markymark03 wrote:Ha! I think you are thinking of Adebayor!
We'll just have to rely on our amazing midfield for seven games and Ulloa can bring a deck chair and sit on the half way line until the ball is near enough to him to bother running. I'm sure someone can provide him with tea and biscuits
Eddy B
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2:06pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Eddy B wrote:Although seriously you do get many strikers who appear to not do much but then pounce when it matters. Wasn't Thierry Henry a bit like that? Then again you get a few who play like CMS.
markymark03 wrote:Ha! I think you are thinking of Adebayor!
We'll just have to rely on our amazing midfield for seven games and Ulloa can bring a deck chair and sit on the half way line until the ball is near enough to him to bother running. I'm sure someone can provide him with tea and biscuits
Eddy B
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2:07pm Fri 15 Mar 13
bruce beckett
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2:08pm Fri 15 Mar 13
But having castigated the guy myself, I think calling for him to be shown the door by the club is going too far.
Yes, he's a petulant young man, but he's only 23, he's scored 35 goals in 116 games – despite often being played in a midfield role – and he still has a bright future ahead of him in the game.
If it's not with us, then we should at least be looking for a fee for him. I know Bristol City were seriously interested last season.
Albion23
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2:08pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
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2:10pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Bish May Turn wrote:Absolutely with you on this one, BMT. Barnes needs to be shown the door - he's let himself and the club down very badly.
Barnes, words fail me, just hope the internal punishment was fitting, P45 if it was down to me.
BlueAndWhite1948
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2:10pm Fri 15 Mar 13
VegasSeagull
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2:11pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Neville wrote:Thanks.
Attn Vegas The player you refer to was Colin Kazim-Richards and nothing has been done as yet about his gesturing.
Now I am wondering why nothing has been done.
The Phantom
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2:20pm Fri 15 Mar 13
BlueAndWhite1948 wrote:Presumably they went with the referee's evidence which is fair enough. Up to Barnes and the Albion to prove he did not do anything wrong. Nothing to suggest that they did.
The FA must have had access to better footage than the general public or are they making AB a scapegoat for the ref's bad decision. Don't suppose we will ever know the truth.
Tommy11
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2:24pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Get rid of him end of season - he does not do much anyway....
Bye Barnes.
Hoarder12345444
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2:26pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Hoarder12345444
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2:27pm Fri 15 Mar 13
VegasSeagull wrote:Zaha I believe didnt even get charged.
I wonder what happened to Zaha.
I also wonder what happened to the guy who made rude gestures toward Brighton fans a couple of weeks back at the Amex, I forget his name.
football's coming home
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2:27pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Let's hope we can pull out a big win on Sunday and erase the memories of our recent performances up there and also last season at the Amex.
We must surely be due a bit of luck and a win against them by now.
RottingdeanBAH27
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2:38pm Fri 15 Mar 13
VegasSeagull wrote:It was Colin Kazim Richards of Blackburn.
I wonder what happened to Zaha. I also wonder what happened to the guy who made rude gestures toward Brighton fans a couple of weeks back at the Amex, I forget his name.
RottingdeanBAH27
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2:39pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Bish May Turn
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2:42pm Fri 15 Mar 13
VegasSeagull
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2:52pm Fri 15 Mar 13
When Barnes is done with his ban there will only be a couple of matches left to play, not counting playoffs, if we get there.
It might well be that Barnes will plays in those matches, he might even score the goal that gets us into the playoffs, will he still be a villain if that happens?
I don't think this is the time to talk about giving him his p45, stuff like that can be dealt with when all the playing is done, just the same as those nearing the end of their contracts will have to wait.
There are those that wouldn't start Barnes simply because they don't rate him, so to them this ban means nothing.
There are those that say Barnes getting banned for 7 matches might cost us a playoff place, so I guess they do rate him and feel that we will miss his contributions. You can't have it both ways can you.
Old Scrote of the Amex
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2:56pm Fri 15 Mar 13
The Phantom wrote:They can't REALLY go by the referee's submission as could not have seen anything. There must have been better footage that this was indeed deliberate or it would have been thrown out.
BlueAndWhite1948 wrote:Presumably they went with the referee's evidence which is fair enough. Up to Barnes and the Albion to prove he did not do anything wrong. Nothing to suggest that they did.
The FA must have had access to better footage than the general public or are they making AB a scapegoat for the ref's bad decision. Don't suppose we will ever know the truth.
I do laugh though when people are saying that Barnes is rubbish and not good enough for the team, while in the same breath saying his dismissal and ban have cost us promotion :-)
Jonathan Mouette
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3:05pm Fri 15 Mar 13
markymark03
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3:08pm Fri 15 Mar 13
VegasSeagull wrote:The third aspect VG is that now Ulloa is being asked a lot purely because Barnes culdn't bottle his temper. He has also let down all the fans who have been behind him and arguing his case. It shows no respect on his part.
I think those in the halls of power at Brighton will not be thinking about Barnes at htis time, and so they shouln't be, far more pressing issues to sort out. When Barnes is done with his ban there will only be a couple of matches left to play, not counting playoffs, if we get there. It might well be that Barnes will plays in those matches, he might even score the goal that gets us into the playoffs, will he still be a villain if that happens? I don't think this is the time to talk about giving him his p45, stuff like that can be dealt with when all the playing is done, just the same as those nearing the end of their contracts will have to wait. There are those that wouldn't start Barnes simply because they don't rate him, so to them this ban means nothing. There are those that say Barnes getting banned for 7 matches might cost us a playoff place, so I guess they do rate him and feel that we will miss his contributions. You can't have it both ways can you.
The Phantom
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3:10pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:The official statement from the FA says that "the case was proven". The referee may not have been able to see Barnes' attempt to trip him up, but he would certainly have felt it. Also possible that Barnes may have said something when he put his foot out. Have never said Barnes is rubbish - brings a lot to the side at times, just has a habbit of poor decision making at times. Don't think he has cost us promotion - getting one point from the last three away games is more significant.
The Phantom wrote:They can't REALLY go by the referee's submission as could not have seen anything. There must have been better footage that this was indeed deliberate or it would have been thrown out.
BlueAndWhite1948 wrote:Presumably they went with the referee's evidence which is fair enough. Up to Barnes and the Albion to prove he did not do anything wrong. Nothing to suggest that they did.
The FA must have had access to better footage than the general public or are they making AB a scapegoat for the ref's bad decision. Don't suppose we will ever know the truth.
I do laugh though when people are saying that Barnes is rubbish and not good enough for the team, while in the same breath saying his dismissal and ban have cost us promotion :-)
Hovite
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3:16pm Fri 15 Mar 13
This doesn't mean he was guilty, more that the risks were too great. The ref made a meal of it whatever the case.
It was hardly violent conduct and was more like the ref and his ego.
VegasSeagull
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3:19pm Fri 15 Mar 13
I agree, a lot is now being placed on the shoulders of Ulloa but in all honesty I think the load was there anyway what with CMS not hitting the net and Buckley's goals also drying up. We have played about 80% of the season with a lone striker pattern so having to do that again should not be a big issue. The key is working out how to keep Ulloa fresh enough to play every game, fresh and injury free.
We are not in a good position, (available players) but today it is not a disaster.
Tommy from the Amex
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3:20pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:i am with you old scrote.
The Phantom wrote:They can't REALLY go by the referee's submission as could not have seen anything. There must have been better footage that this was indeed deliberate or it would have been thrown out.
BlueAndWhite1948 wrote:Presumably they went with the referee's evidence which is fair enough. Up to Barnes and the Albion to prove he did not do anything wrong. Nothing to suggest that they did.
The FA must have had access to better footage than the general public or are they making AB a scapegoat for the ref's bad decision. Don't suppose we will ever know the truth.
I do laugh though when people are saying that Barnes is rubbish and not good enough for the team, while in the same breath saying his dismissal and ban have cost us promotion :-)
Some of our support are stupid to suggest that he should be sacked which is crap by the way and then state because he is banned its cost us our place in the play offs !
Ok ! so he has got a ban ! wont be the first player wont be the last !
Let the club down !! well we do have short memories ! Lua Lua in court in Newcastle then in Brighton and not being available to play ! Then the Jurys inn episode and the players concerned not being available !! Now thats letting the club down !! This situation just adds fuel to the fire for the barnes haters ! Best thing for him is to move to a club where the support will get behind him and i hope he does real well and score loads !
Sarah Booker Lewis
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3:26pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Jonathan Mouette wrote:No comments have been removed from your account. This is the first recorded post on the site since Wednesday.
I shall repeat certain elements of a previous mail which the censors deleted... I expressed my sympathy for poor old Ashley (though I doubt that was the reason it was deleted!). He shouldn't have been on the pitch at the time he was excluded. In fact, after a string of missed opportunities in the first half and total inability to read the game - he got in the way on a number of occasions - he should have been replaced at half time. Oh well, we'll just have to soldier on regardless. Maybe Vicente can play on Uloa's shoulder snapping up the half chances - and Orlandi can make some of those telling passes... All is not last, in fact I think it will be a blessing in disguise. Fingers crossed.
Hovite
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3:37pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Should be an interesting afternoon tomorrow.
pjwilk
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4:20pm Fri 15 Mar 13
B rian Tawses left foot
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4:22pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Hoarder12345444
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4:28pm Fri 15 Mar 13
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:Martin Keown does come across and well spoken and quite articulate. Apart from that, no one else. They all say the same things and sound like idiots.
Why are we surprised that Ashley's a bit of a twit? Since when have footballers been noted for their amazing powers of intellect ?
Old Scrote of the Amex
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4:40pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Hoarder12345444 wrote:Clark Carlisle is intelligent, but Arjan de Zeeuw has a degree in medical science and is now working as forensic detective. He is possibly the exception that generally proves the rule :-)
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:Martin Keown does come across and well spoken and quite articulate. Apart from that, no one else. They all say the same things and sound like idiots.
Why are we surprised that Ashley's a bit of a twit? Since when have footballers been noted for their amazing powers of intellect ?
Chi Gull
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4:41pm Fri 15 Mar 13
He has been very stupid and is beng punished. Hopefully he is still young enough to learn from this and cut out the disciplnary problems. I agree with other posters that some of the off the field indiscipline from other players is more worrying and often affects other members of the public.
pablobrowno
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4:48pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Bet Hosky is gutted.
rolivan
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4:53pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Steve Coppell.Graham Le Saux
Hoarder12345444 wrote:Clark Carlisle is intelligent, but Arjan de Zeeuw has a degree in medical science and is now working as forensic detective. He is possibly the exception that generally proves the rule :-)
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:Martin Keown does come across and well spoken and quite articulate. Apart from that, no one else. They all say the same things and sound like idiots.
Why are we surprised that Ashley's a bit of a twit? Since when have footballers been noted for their amazing powers of intellect ?
dave from bexill
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4:54pm Fri 15 Mar 13
B rian Tawses left foot wrote:Footballers are the same as everyone else in society, some are more able intellectually than others; just like this site!
Why are we surprised that Ashley's a bit of a twit? Since when have footballers been noted for their amazing powers of intellect ?
Grendel
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4:55pm Fri 15 Mar 13
dave from bexill
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5:07pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Grendel wrote:I agree with most of that Grendel, but I still can't quite get my head around why any player would purposely trip a referee up. If it was deliberate, then It's the most stupid act I've seen by a professional footballer during a game. (However, as an ex Sunday morning footballer many years ago, I have certainly witnessed a lot worse) My guess is that he also used "industrial" language toward the ref, which coupled with the trip/collision meant the ref felt he had no other option but to red card him.
A lot of hysteria on here. The only footage I have seen doesn't tell us much. If he deliberately tripped the ref, then yes that is stupid. We know know his punishment. Hopefully he will serve that punishment and everyone including Ashley Barnes can just move on. Too good a player to be shown the door at this stage, but he will need to change.
graham w
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5:08pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex
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5:12pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Chi Gull wrote:I couldn't have put it better myself. This is as much about people's general dislike of Ashley Barnes as it is about his ban. You can't whinge about a player missing loads of chances and then lambast his reading of the game.
Some players get a rush of blood to the head and do stupid things. We could all name a few I am sure. Greer has got himself sent off needlessly a couple of times. Vincelot similarly against Burnley. I don't recall anyone wanting their heads at the time. Ash is getting lambasted because he divides opinion as a player and fans don't understand why Gus favours him. There is a comment above about him missing several chances against Bolton and that he can't read the game. The point is he can read the game and does get on the end of chances - more so than many other players - as well as being good definsively.
He has been very stupid and is beng punished. Hopefully he is still young enough to learn from this and cut out the disciplnary problems. I agree with other posters that some of the off the field indiscipline from other players is more worrying and often affects other members of the public.
mikeygit
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5:13pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex
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5:38pm Fri 15 Mar 13
mikeygit wrote:I presume he'll still be on his basic wage (minus fines) but obviously won't be in line for any win/goal bonuses.
In reply to some of the above posts--there are various opinions as to what happened--video for us is not clear--from being an accident--Barnes bumped into ref and tripped him accidently, to blatent intention. I would suggest that as there has been no outcry or support from the Club--it was the latter?? On another note--does Barnes get paid for all these games he misses for the club??
Hovite
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5:38pm Fri 15 Mar 13
It's a bit like disputing a parking ticket, the FA have got no emotional attachment to the incident and would probably find him guilty anyway. They have to be seen to support a refs decision and make examples of players.
There would be no giving the benefit of the doubt in this case and they would just laugh his appeal off and doubled his sentence.
championshipgull
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5:56pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Neville
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5:58pm Fri 15 Mar 13
russellsnr2
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6:02pm Fri 15 Mar 13
And also the FA according to the BBC site charged Zaha with improper conduct so whats good for the goose is good for the gander and Zaha has admitted the error by giving apologies.
PressBoxTeaBoy
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6:12pm Fri 15 Mar 13
VegasSeagull wrote:Don't be daft. Barnes is, and always has been, a very imature individual, with a severe temperment issue, and behaviour patterns of a 12 yrd old. He's been allowed to float on being a complete liability, with occassional good performances that have allowed the blinkered folks at the club (and fans) to keep overlooking it.
I think those in the halls of power at Brighton will not be thinking about Barnes at htis time, and so they shouln't be, far more pressing issues to sort out. When Barnes is done with his ban there will only be a couple of matches left to play, not counting playoffs, if we get there. It might well be that Barnes will plays in those matches, he might even score the goal that gets us into the playoffs, will he still be a villain if that happens? I don't think this is the time to talk about giving him his p45, stuff like that can be dealt with when all the playing is done, just the same as those nearing the end of their contracts will have to wait. There are those that wouldn't start Barnes simply because they don't rate him, so to them this ban means nothing. There are those that say Barnes getting banned for 7 matches might cost us a playoff place, so I guess they do rate him and feel that we will miss his contributions. You can't have it both ways can you.
At the end of the day he is a mediocre talent more befitting of League One status, and for him to remain at BHA going forward will just be a waste of a wage packet that could be far better invested in someone without the Barnes attributes.
He's let himself, the club, and the fans down one last time. If he came back and scored a hatrick in all three remaining games that secured a play-off place, my sentiment would still be: "well done, thanks very much, now here's your bus fare back to League one.
When he comitted his last childish act he did so in full knowledge that we were up against it with Strker shortages. That say's it all ! He's brainless.
Good Bye Barnsie !
saraman
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6:19pm Fri 15 Mar 13
tinker111
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6:22pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Tommy11 wrote:Clear of Tommy your the idiot stay at home
Barnes you are an idiot!!!
Get rid of him end of season - he does not do much anyway....
Bye Barnes.
tinker111
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6:26pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Tony the tiger eastbourne wrote:Stay away for the season then
Only 7 match ban, he got off light!!!
tinker111
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6:32pm Fri 15 Mar 13
bruce beckett wrote:Thank you a person with head on the correct way,all you say is so rite ,played his heart out whatever asked to do,this country would be great again if all gave this effort
Where are the "Ashley Barnes is Innocent" brigade now?
But having castigated the guy myself, I think calling for him to be shown the door by the club is going too far.
Yes, he's a petulant young man, but he's only 23, he's scored 35 goals in 116 games – despite often being played in a midfield role – and he still has a bright future ahead of him in the game.
If it's not with us, then we should at least be looking for a fee for him. I know Bristol City were seriously interested last season.
WiseOldSeagull
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7:39pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Even a certain David Beckham lashed out in an extremely important game at a World cup against Argentina which in the end sent us out of the competition. He didn't do too badly after that incident did he?
2ndCitySeagull
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12:23am Sat 16 Mar 13
PressBoxTeaBoy wrote:TeaBag...You seem to know alot about league one status and 12 year olds, in future perhaps you should go and report on Crawley Town under 13 matches?
VegasSeagull wrote:Don't be daft. Barnes is, and always has been, a very imature individual, with a severe temperment issue, and behaviour patterns of a 12 yrd old. He's been allowed to float on being a complete liability, with occassional good performances that have allowed the blinkered folks at the club (and fans) to keep overlooking it.
I think those in the halls of power at Brighton will not be thinking about Barnes at htis time, and so they shouln't be, far more pressing issues to sort out. When Barnes is done with his ban there will only be a couple of matches left to play, not counting playoffs, if we get there. It might well be that Barnes will plays in those matches, he might even score the goal that gets us into the playoffs, will he still be a villain if that happens? I don't think this is the time to talk about giving him his p45, stuff like that can be dealt with when all the playing is done, just the same as those nearing the end of their contracts will have to wait. There are those that wouldn't start Barnes simply because they don't rate him, so to them this ban means nothing. There are those that say Barnes getting banned for 7 matches might cost us a playoff place, so I guess they do rate him and feel that we will miss his contributions. You can't have it both ways can you.
At the end of the day he is a mediocre talent more befitting of League One status, and for him to remain at BHA going forward will just be a waste of a wage packet that could be far better invested in someone without the Barnes attributes.
He's let himself, the club, and the fans down one last time. If he came back and scored a hatrick in all three remaining games that secured a play-off place, my sentiment would still be: "well done, thanks very much, now here's your bus fare back to League one.
When he comitted his last childish act he did so in full knowledge that we were up against it with Strker shortages. That say's it all ! He's brainless.
Good Bye Barnsie !
Captain Haddock
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2:03am Sat 16 Mar 13
football's coming home wrote:Football's Coming Home: haha! Made me laugh.
Ashley Barnes should be rated 5 stars on Trip Advisor :-)
Let's hope we can pull out a big win on Sunday and erase the memories of our recent performances up there and also last season at the Amex.
We must surely be due a bit of luck and a win against them by now.
Regards the Palace match, I had a quick nose on one of their forums to see what the enemy are saying and aside from all the usual you-know-what, there seemed to be quite a few rationally-minded 'Nigels' suggesting we are due a win and would prevail.
I hope they are right!
VegasSeagull says...
1:31pm Fri 15 Mar 13
I also wonder what happened to the guy who made rude gestures toward Brighton fans a couple of weeks back at the Amex, I forget his name.