Poyet says Ulloa is 'different class' (From The Argus)

What a tremendous performance yesterday and a great example of leading the line by Leo. Great attacking set up and KLL finally demonstrating his worth to the team from the start with a really skilful and committed contribution to a fabulous victory. Delicious!

The result is pivotal in Poyet's managerial career, as he will have learned much about adapting his own tactical ideas. There will be the realisation that a few subtle tweaks to his formation and method of playing make a great deal of difference to matches that might otherwise appear difficult to gain a result. Up to now, there have been consistently regular adjustments to the playing personnel, but with little or no change to the overall style. Witnessing just how commanding we can be must broaden the coaching mindset altogether, and ultimately and undoubtedly lead to a top six finish.

The worrying thing for the rest is I don't think he is fully fit yet. Give him a preseason with us and its going to be fun times

We seem to have found a centre forward that can score plenty of goals in our style of play which isn't easy (I don't believe Murray would have at this level).

Not only does it look like he is going to score goals regularly but he links play so well. When the ball gets played into him, it sticks and he keeps us moving forward in possession.

And, from what we're being told, he isn't fully fit at all yet. If that's the case and he gets more and comfortable with the English game, he is going to be superb!

7Rookie wrote:
The worrying thing for the rest is I don't think he is fully fit yet. Give him a preseason with us and its going to be fun times

He is not fully fit, not played in Spain this season .. Now learning the English game, and the language, I have no doubt a premiership club will be coming in for him, not that many clever players who can play football and head the ball.

What a great acquisition and as mentioned above, the best is yet to come.

I love the way he plays with a smile on his face too. Quality in every sense.

Leo Ulloa is still learning the english game,but what he's achieved so far is very promising. When he's finally found his feet in the game he's going to be brilliant!!

Leo Ulloa is still learning the english game,but what he's achieved so far is very promising. When he's finally found his feet in the game he's going to be brilliant!!

mark by the sea wrote:

7Rookie wrote: The worrying thing for the rest is I don't think he is fully fit yet. Give him a preseason with us and its going to be fun times

He is not fully fit, not played in Spain this season .. Now learning the English game, and the language, I have no doubt a premiership club will be coming in for him, not that many clever players who can play football and head the ball.

Murray can - and he's still at Palace despite banging them in all season! So I hope and trust Ulloa will be with us next season, whichever division we are in. How exciting (at last) to think we have a top quality striker able to do the business on a regular basis - and what a huge relief...

I heartily congratulate whoever first identified the guy as a potential signing.

It's still a big ask to get in the PAs, but coming into form and self-belief at this time certainly makes that - and even Wembley - look a very real possibility.
Ooh er, missus - good, innit?!

I get the vibes that some are already worried about losing our new man. Stranger things have happened but I'd be surpised if we let him leave over the summer when he's just signed a 5 year deal and we've taken an age to find that "special" kind of forward.

I thought Jan - May would be acclimatisation time for him and we wouldn't really see too much until next season, but he's of to a flyer. Long may it last. The Albion overseas scouting team deserve great accolades.

WestStander17 wrote:
We seem to have found a centre forward that can score plenty of goals in our style of play which isn't easy (I don't believe Murray would have at this level). Not only does it look like he is going to score goals regularly but he links play so well. When the ball gets played into him, it sticks and he keeps us moving forward in possession. And, from what we're being told, he isn't fully fit at all yet. If that's the case and he gets more and comfortable with the English game, he is going to be superb!

We seem to have found a centre forward that can score plenty of goals in our style of play which isn't easy (I don't believe Murray would have at this level).

Hard to quantify that against a player that has notched up 30 goals this season irrespective of style of play.

Am I chuffed...? Before the match I tweeted that the Sunday selection was the best I had seen this season and I forecast a 3-0 win. YES! This is surely the way to approach the rest of the season. Check out the run-in for Forest, Leicester and others around us. There must be so many squeaky bums the length and breadth of the country. Me, I'm forecasting us finishing 4th - but only if lessons have really been learned from Sunday. Fingers crossed.

Ulloa wasn't bad and the result was good but what the hell was that breakfast pie all about. It really was a wrong'un.

Sweet,Sweet,Sweet

Now we have 2 weeks in which to saviour Sundays result.

Hopefully the whinging old timers from across the pond and in this city will be keeping their heads down..

I am glad to see that Gus and the players do not take it too much to heart when they read all the rubbish that was said about them in the last few weeks.

I don`t care if the team is on the ground,crying ,bleeding,screaming.
.. Keep playing until the final whistle...

Thats what I saw on Sunday from players,staff and supporters alike...

Have a Good One Boys......

Gus says that Ulloa is, 'different class,' well yes he is compared with most but not all.

I would bracket Leo with TK, Bridcutt, Bridge, David and Upson. Six players that all display top quality skill sets.

As has been said it really was a great game yesterday made even better of course by the scoreline, which could have been even greater, but mustn't get to greedy. Rightly,there's been lots of plaudits for the team and individual players all of which I obviously agree with. Just one moment however, that I don't think has been mentioned so far, ie Bridcutt's part in the final goal when he skillfully clipped the ball over an opponents head to set up the pass that started the move for the goal...absolute class and so much more to his game still to come I think.
Not certain I entirely agree with some others that Gus should select the same side/tactic for the match at Forest, who currently seem to be the form team in the championship. My view is that he will bring in a second central midfielder and realistically I would think this would be the rifgt way to set up against Forest. Any thoughts on this?

Very exciting to have a player like Ulloa on the pitch now - so many times earlier in the season Buckley or David would float the ball over and they'd be noone there. Not any more.

Also I'd like to highlight the build up play (the highlights on telly last night were rather pathetic unfortunately as usual). Ulloa's flick to Buckley to start the move that brought the second goal, a similar one just a few minutes before when he did some amazing trickery on the ball with his back to goal to release Orlandi down the left which almost resulted in a goal. The team build up down the right including a lovely volleyed pass in field by David. Real premiership quality.

dave from bexill wrote:
As has been said it really was a great game yesterday made even better of course by the scoreline, which could have been even greater, but mustn't get to greedy. Rightly,there's been lots of plaudits for the team and individual players all of which I obviously agree with. Just one moment however, that I don't think has been mentioned so far, ie Bridcutt's part in the final goal when he skillfully clipped the ball over an opponents head to set up the pass that started the move for the goal...absolute class and so much more to his game still to come I think.
Not certain I entirely agree with some others that Gus should select the same side/tactic for the match at Forest, who currently seem to be the form team in the championship. My view is that he will bring in a second central midfielder and realistically I would think this would be the rifgt way to set up against Forest. Any thoughts on this?

Unfortunately you could be right (I say unfortunately as I'd rather see a team of Vicente's than Hammonds!). I'd try my hardest to keep the same team and formation for as long as possible, home and away. ie. 4 3 3, or 4 5 1 with two wingers, Greer retaining his place in front of El Abd. Only possible changes I'd consider would be Vicente for Orlandi although given his flakey fitness Vicente as the sub option is probably sensible, and then probably Bruno back for Calderon at some stage. Lua Lua was definately not a liability defensively yesterday and it would be blatantly unfair to drop him. He totally outshone Zaha.

Another thing on team selection - I don't really buy squad rotation. Surely the players should be fit enough to play every game if they are good enough. Messi is never rested as far as I know and don't Barcelona play the same team every week (and they must have a helluva squad)?

pappaK wrote:
Sweet,Sweet,Sweet Now we have 2 weeks in which to saviour Sundays result. Hopefully the whinging old timers from across the pond and in this city will be keeping their heads down.. I am glad to see that Gus and the players do not take it too much to heart when they read all the rubbish that was said about them in the last few weeks. I don`t care if the team is on the ground,crying ,bleeding,screaming. .. Keep playing until the final whistle... Thats what I saw on Sunday from players,staff and supporters alike... Have a Good One Boys......

I assume your little dig was aimed at me, (across the pond), ok put up or shut up, tell us all what I whinged about. No point is just saying it, you need to offer something to back up your claim.

As I say, put up or shut up.

Saul G P Tong wrote:

WestStander17 wrote:
We seem to have found a centre forward that can score plenty of goals in our style of play which isn't easy (I don't believe Murray would have at this level). Not only does it look like he is going to score goals regularly but he links play so well. When the ball gets played into him, it sticks and he keeps us moving forward in possession. And, from what we're being told, he isn't fully fit at all yet. If that's the case and he gets more and comfortable with the English game, he is going to be superb!

We seem to have found a centre forward that can score plenty of goals in our style of play which isn't easy (I don't believe Murray would have at this level).

Hard to quantify that against a player that has notched up 30 goals this season irrespective of style of play.

Well, clearly, we'll never know for sure. He has scored 30 this season (good on him!) but, as we saw yesterday, Palace play very differently to us. Will be interesting to see how many he gets next year without Zaha winning penalties and putting chances on a plate for him, especially if they are still in the Championship. In our style of play, he was scoring but not at that rate in the league below albeit without the quality around him that we have now.

Most importantly, Ulloa is pretty much scoring at the same rate so far in our system and style at this level. He links the play up better too and works hard for the team. So, it doesn't matter whether we should have let him go or not, we have better now.

There are very few top players these days who play 90 mins 2 times a week without being rested. The pace of the game is different abroad. The game in England is physically more demanding and the pace and quality of the football means that everyone has to be at peak fitness. That's why managers rotate team selection and use a squad, rather than in the past when you had a solid core of players who played almost every game. Gus will have to strengthen the midfield for certain games despite the fans wating an attacking line up every time. That's why he is the manager and we are not! Based on Sunday, I would put KLL ahead of Buckers at the moment. The latter has not been at his best since his injury and illness problems.

VegasSeagull wrote:

pappaK wrote:
Sweet,Sweet,Sweet Now we have 2 weeks in which to saviour Sundays result. Hopefully the whinging old timers from across the pond and in this city will be keeping their heads down.. I am glad to see that Gus and the players do not take it too much to heart when they read all the rubbish that was said about them in the last few weeks. I don`t care if the team is on the ground,crying ,bleeding,screaming. .. Keep playing until the final whistle... Thats what I saw on Sunday from players,staff and supporters alike... Have a Good One Boys......

I assume your little dig was aimed at me, (across the pond), ok put up or shut up, tell us all what I whinged about. No point is just saying it, you need to offer something to back up your claim.

As I say, put up or shut up.

Me, refering to you Vegas , "Never "

You are a Legend in your own mind.

I was refering to the Toad across in the Falmer Pond.

Luv It.........

HOVEPARKRESIDENT wrote:
Ulloa wasn't bad and the result was good but what the hell was that breakfast pie all about. It really was a wrong'un.

I really enjoyed my pie. As GP would say "it brings us something different"

Eddy B wrote:
Very exciting to have a player like Ulloa on the pitch now - so many times earlier in the season Buckley or David would float the ball over and they'd be noone there. Not any more.

Also I'd like to highlight the build up play (the highlights on telly last night were rather pathetic unfortunately as usual). Ulloa's flick to Buckley to start the move that brought the second goal, a similar one just a few minutes before when he did some amazing trickery on the ball with his back to goal to release Orlandi down the left which almost resulted in a goal. The team build up down the right including a lovely volleyed pass in field by David. Real premiership quality.

Is that "noone" as in "craig" or "noone" as in "no-one"

I wonder how CMS feels about all the adulation of Ulloa, which has never been heaped on him.

I expect he is on to his agent already, if not he should be as it soon became clear he was never the player Gus really wanted as he has a style of play totally unsuited to Gus' Plan A, or is that Plan A. Taxi booked.

Eddy B wrote:

dave from bexill wrote:
As has been said it really was a great game yesterday made even better of course by the scoreline, which could have been even greater, but mustn't get to greedy. Rightly,there's been lots of plaudits for the team and individual players all of which I obviously agree with. Just one moment however, that I don't think has been mentioned so far, ie Bridcutt's part in the final goal when he skillfully clipped the ball over an opponents head to set up the pass that started the move for the goal...absolute class and so much more to his game still to come I think.
Not certain I entirely agree with some others that Gus should select the same side/tactic for the match at Forest, who currently seem to be the form team in the championship. My view is that he will bring in a second central midfielder and realistically I would think this would be the rifgt way to set up against Forest. Any thoughts on this?

Unfortunately you could be right (I say unfortunately as I'd rather see a team of Vicente's than Hammonds!). I'd try my hardest to keep the same team and formation for as long as possible, home and away. ie. 4 3 3, or 4 5 1 with two wingers, Greer retaining his place in front of El Abd. Only possible changes I'd consider would be Vicente for Orlandi although given his flakey fitness Vicente as the sub option is probably sensible, and then probably Bruno back for Calderon at some stage. Lua Lua was definately not a liability defensively yesterday and it would be blatantly unfair to drop him. He totally outshone Zaha.

Another thing on team selection - I don't really buy squad rotation. Surely the players should be fit enough to play every game if they are good enough. Messi is never rested as far as I know and don't Barcelona play the same team every week (and they must have a helluva squad)?

Some good comments Eddy B.
I particulary agee with what you say about squad rotation. Whilst I recognise the need to keep players fresh and sharp it can be overdone with the resultant lack of continuity affecting the fluency of a side.
Ulloa has been a great addition to the team but I hope we sign another striker to support him before the loan window closes on Thursday week 28 March.
Firstly we need someone as cover for Ulloa in case he gets injured etc but secondly it would help Poyet to keep him 'fresh' if someone could be brought on in his place for the last 10 - 15 minutes of any game if and when pertinent.
Great to beat Palace 3-0.
It stuck me that we fielded an old fashioned forward line ie a CF (Ulloa) with two genuine wingers (LuaLua & Buckley) plus 2 inside forwards (Lopez and Orlandi). Add the fact that our back 5 players are all 'comfortable' on the ball and one can begin to see the benefits of Poyet's playing philosophy.
Finally I was quite surprised that Vicente wasn't given a quick 10 minutes off the bench - perhaps he wasn't 100% fit.

pappaK wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:

pappaK wrote:
Sweet,Sweet,Sweet Now we have 2 weeks in which to saviour Sundays result. Hopefully the whinging old timers from across the pond and in this city will be keeping their heads down.. I am glad to see that Gus and the players do not take it too much to heart when they read all the rubbish that was said about them in the last few weeks. I don`t care if the team is on the ground,crying ,bleeding,screaming. .. Keep playing until the final whistle... Thats what I saw on Sunday from players,staff and supporters alike... Have a Good One Boys......

I assume your little dig was aimed at me, (across the pond), ok put up or shut up, tell us all what I whinged about. No point is just saying it, you need to offer something to back up your claim.

As I say, put up or shut up.

Me, refering to you Vegas , "Never "

You are a Legend in your own mind.

I was refering to the Toad across in the Falmer Pond.

Luv It.........

I only come here to read comments because I'm a sad person with not much else to do. But I must say I think Vegas contributes interesting and fair minded comments on a regular basis. Can't recall reading much from pappak that sticks in the mind.

raymondo999 wrote:

pappaK wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:

pappaK wrote:
Sweet,Sweet,Sweet Now we have 2 weeks in which to saviour Sundays result. Hopefully the whinging old timers from across the pond and in this city will be keeping their heads down.. I am glad to see that Gus and the players do not take it too much to heart when they read all the rubbish that was said about them in the last few weeks. I don`t care if the team is on the ground,crying ,bleeding,screaming. .. Keep playing until the final whistle... Thats what I saw on Sunday from players,staff and supporters alike... Have a Good One Boys......

I assume your little dig was aimed at me, (across the pond), ok put up or shut up, tell us all what I whinged about. No point is just saying it, you need to offer something to back up your claim.

As I say, put up or shut up.

Me, refering to you Vegas , "Never "

You are a Legend in your own mind.

I was refering to the Toad across in the Falmer Pond.

Luv It.........

I only come here to read comments because I'm a sad person with not much else to do. But I must say I think Vegas contributes interesting and fair minded comments on a regular basis. Can't recall reading much from pappak that sticks in the mind.

Went fishing today ,reeled in a Raymondo 999 and a legandary Vegas fish.

If only you were as funny as you thought you are. A comedian in your own mind.

VegasSeagull wrote:
Gus says that Ulloa is, 'different class,' well yes he is compared with most but not all.

I would bracket Leo with TK, Bridcutt, Bridge, David and Upson. Six players that all display top quality skill sets.

I think he might be making a comparison on strikers not the rest of the squad Vegas!

PappaK, or perhaps you would rather I call you Kevin, perhaps Zac should take over writing your comments.

Why do you continue to embarrass yourself, people don't find your comments funny, it's just drivel. .

noddychops wrote:
What a tremendous performance yesterday and a great example of leading the line by Leo. Great attacking set up and KLL finally demonstrating his worth to the team from the start with a really skilful and committed contribution to a fabulous victory. Delicious!

I was at Barnsley and when KLL came on you could tell he meant business, he just wanted to attack and shoot, he made the keeper make two great stops and he carried it on against Palarse, brilliant team performance and it should have been more. Forest here we come. Yorkshire Seagull.

"derby day double destroyed Crystal Palace."
A fine piece of alliteration Mr Naylor.
I might get that put on a T-shirt.

pappaK wrote:

raymondo999 wrote:

pappaK wrote:

VegasSeagull wrote:

pappaK wrote:
Sweet,Sweet,Sweet Now we have 2 weeks in which to saviour Sundays result. Hopefully the whinging old timers from across the pond and in this city will be keeping their heads down.. I am glad to see that Gus and the players do not take it too much to heart when they read all the rubbish that was said about them in the last few weeks. I don`t care if the team is on the ground,crying ,bleeding,screaming. .. Keep playing until the final whistle... Thats what I saw on Sunday from players,staff and supporters alike... Have a Good One Boys......

I assume your little dig was aimed at me, (across the pond), ok put up or shut up, tell us all what I whinged about. No point is just saying it, you need to offer something to back up your claim.

As I say, put up or shut up.

Me, refering to you Vegas , "Never "

You are a Legend in your own mind.

I was refering to the Toad across in the Falmer Pond.

Luv It.........

I only come here to read comments because I'm a sad person with not much else to do. But I must say I think Vegas contributes interesting and fair minded comments on a regular basis. Can't recall reading much from pappak that sticks in the mind.

Went fishing today ,reeled in a Raymondo 999 and a legandary Vegas fish.

Oh dear you set out to provoke and I fell for it. Silly me. Well done pappa.

Crystal Palace post match board room reaction now available to view at: -

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Quite funny