Albion 'no comment' on Gus link with Reading (From The Argus)
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Albion 'no comment' on Gus link with Reading
8:00am Thursday 21st March 2013 in Sport By Brian Owen
Gus Poyet
Albion are remaining tight-lipped over reports linking Gus Poyet with Reading.
The Seagulls manager is believed to be top of the wanted list at the Madejski Stadium.
Reports this morning suggested Poyet was considering a £2m switch to the Premier League club and had met owner Anton Zingarevich.
But Albion are confident of keeping hold of the inspirational Uruguayan boss, who has taken them into the heart of the Championship play-off race and he would certainly find it a wrench to leave.
It Poyet did decide to move it would be a shock.
Brighton are challenging strongly for the play-offs and Reading are struggling to avoid relegation from the Premier League.
Reading could turn to Nigel Adkins, who was demoted by Southampton recently, if they are unable to secure Poyet as replacement for Brian McDermott, who was sacked by the Premier League strugglers recently.
Albion have issued a “no comment” reply to the suggestion they have given Reading permission to talk to their manager.
Neither club were willing to confirm whether there had been contact between the Royals and representatives of Poyet, who is now out of the country.
Seagulls fans were put on red alert when the odds on their manager taking charge at the Madejski Stadium suddenly plunged to 1/10 with one leading bookmaker yesterday.
Those prices were easing to 1/4 last night.
Although Poyet has made no secret of his Premier League ambitions, he is confident he can get there with Albion.
He is currently under contract until 2016 and the club would be determined to keep hold of their manager.
Albion chief executive Paul Barber has underlined the strength of the club’s relationship with Poyet.
Speaking when Poyet’s name was first mentioned as a possible successor to McDermott last week, Barber told The Argus he was ready for speculation.
He said: “Gus is our manager. He is doing a great job, he is under a good contract and we are delighted to have him here so long may it continue.
“It is inevitable when you have got a top manager, a popular manager, someone who has got a huge amount of respect in the game, whenever there is a vacancy at a club at the next level it is inevitable that there are going to be links.
“It is something we are used to, it is something Gus is used to.
“We have a great relationship between Gus, myself the chairman.
“We speak openly about these things and there is no issue whatsoever.
“We are always prepared for the unexpected as well as the expected.”
Comments(71)
Carter_Cooldancer
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8:58am Thu 21 Mar 13
There is a chance Reading will dp that as I believe most top managers will wait to see if Reading survive the drop, which is unlikely.
So if Poyet does jump ship, and walks away with a massive cash payment, I think I'll ping him an invoice for £51. But I honestly can't see him taking the job It's an easy, low risk £30 IMO.
Neville
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9:05am Thu 21 Mar 13
I find it amazing that ll this could be allowed to happen at this crucial stage of the season.
If this is so I am angry at the contempt for the fans who have backed the club with the largest crowds and the deafening silence from the club and media, no denials from the club as such. Not a word or comment anywhere from Andy Naylor, Brian Owen or Johnny Cantor on their twitter accounts.
I do now fear the worst and next season will be a rebuilding process again when we could have been strengthening. My opinion of Poyet,if he goes will be one of great disappointment.
I suspect Adkins and his backroom staff have been approached in the event this happens.
My gut feel is there is far to much smoke without fire and he will go.
Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
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9:09am Thu 21 Mar 13
UTA
mark by the sea
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9:09am Thu 21 Mar 13
Neville wrote:Problem is season ticket prices are going up, say Atkins makes a mess of last 8 games, we miss play offs, how many might not renew there season ticket? The die hards will, but this could be a massive 6 weeks for the club.
according to The Independent talks have already taken place with the Russian owner and a package of 2m agreed, equating to remainder of Gus salary/contract. They also say he will be in situ for the Reading v Arsenal game. He has also been promised large funds to get them back up again if they get relegated.
I find it amazing that ll this could be allowed to happen at this crucial stage of the season.
If this is so I am angry at the contempt for the fans who have backed the club with the largest crowds and the deafening silence from the club and media, no denials from the club as such. Not a word or comment anywhere from Andy Naylor, Brian Owen or Johnny Cantor on their twitter accounts.
I do now fear the worst and next season will be a rebuilding process again when we could have been strengthening. My opinion of Poyet,if he goes will be one of great disappointment.
I suspect Adkins and his backroom staff have been approached in the event this happens.
My gut feel is there is far to much smoke without fire and he will go.
7Rookie
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9:12am Thu 21 Mar 13
Neville wrote:Lots of that report in the Independent were wrong though. Failure to get a forward in during the transfer window - erm Ulloa? Agreement to talk to premier league clubs - Wolves came calling and got told to do one last season. It also says he has met with their chairman but going by reports on here he is in Barbados, he may have spoken to them but a personal meeting?
according to The Independent talks have already taken place with the Russian owner and a package of 2m agreed, equating to remainder of Gus salary/contract. They also say he will be in situ for the Reading v Arsenal game. He has also been promised large funds to get them back up again if they get relegated.
I find it amazing that ll this could be allowed to happen at this crucial stage of the season.
If this is so I am angry at the contempt for the fans who have backed the club with the largest crowds and the deafening silence from the club and media, no denials from the club as such. Not a word or comment anywhere from Andy Naylor, Brian Owen or Johnny Cantor on their twitter accounts.
I do now fear the worst and next season will be a rebuilding process again when we could have been strengthening. My opinion of Poyet,if he goes will be one of great disappointment.
I suspect Adkins and his backroom staff have been approached in the event this happens.
My gut feel is there is far to much smoke without fire and he will go.
Old Scrote of the Amex
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9:13am Thu 21 Mar 13
Neville
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9:13am Thu 21 Mar 13
If he does to decide to stay he will undoubtedly have upset a great majority of fans and feel he cannot be trusted where money comes into the equation.
Neville
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9:16am Thu 21 Mar 13
mark by the sea
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9:19am Thu 21 Mar 13
farside
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9:19am Thu 21 Mar 13
pablobrowno
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9:21am Thu 21 Mar 13
Neville wrote:Ha ha!!
The meeting with Russian chairman could well have taken place prior to his Barbados 'trip' and probably did by all accounts.Perhaps he wants a nice tan for his Reading pictures holding up the scarf like he did with Brighon.
Willie, Willie Irvine
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9:22am Thu 21 Mar 13
Meanwhile, I'd lay odds our new man is waiting in the wings.
Hector66
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9:23am Thu 21 Mar 13
no up-to-date quotes from anyone involved. nothing from guy or bloom or reading or oatway or tarrico or even anything recent from barber.
there is better coverage in the national press yet this is a massive, massive, massive local, Brighton story.
what a shocker!
you better get with it guys 'cos at the moment you are caught with your pants firmly down and your backsides on fire.
raymondo999
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9:25am Thu 21 Mar 13
fan4life
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9:25am Thu 21 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Whilst I am worried that Gus is going to leave us, well if it happens we just have to move on. What worries me most though is the thought of that clown Adkins pitching up as our new manager.
Odds drifting to 8/11 this morning, with Adkins shortening to 15/8... still, I'm more than a wee bit concerned.
Would be the very worst of all outcomes
WiseOldSeagull
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9:25am Thu 21 Mar 13
The silence does make the situation very ominous.
He could well have met with the Russian chairman before leaving for Barbados. Time will tell, but I personally wouldn't want to lose him as Tanno would undoubtably go with him leaving Charlie in charge for the foreseable future.
JaseBHA
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9:30am Thu 21 Mar 13
Personally, I've got a bad feeling about this one, despite the fact he's said he'd leave if something "special" came along. Would a struggling Reading, with almost 3,000 fewer people coming through the gate on average than Albion, fulfil that criterion? If he'd join them, he'd join anybody and it was a matter of time.
It's shocking, shocking timing for us though, and with Lopez out of contract at the end of the season and Bridcutt a top-flight player in waiting, it could have ramifications way beyond this season.
As for his replacement, how much of a honeymoon period would the deeply unpopular Adkins get, were he to get the gig for example? And where would that leave Oatway et al? Do they all jump ship?
This is a horrible situation all round.
Willie, Willie Irvine
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9:31am Thu 21 Mar 13
fansince57
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9:32am Thu 21 Mar 13
championshipgull
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9:34am Thu 21 Mar 13
pjwilk
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9:38am Thu 21 Mar 13
mark by the sea
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9:39am Thu 21 Mar 13
fansince57 wrote:Yes indeed, the new guy will have a massive job, but Gus would have too, imagine them going down and he fails to get them promoted next season, problem with foriegn money is they want results now, the step up in budget brings its own pressures.
Although I'd be extremely disappointed if Gus goes, I think with someone like Di Matteo at the helm we would continue to prosper. My bigger concern is that Gus would come back to raid our best players - Bridcutt for sure, almost certainly Spanish Dave (out of contract at end of season), possibly Ulloa, and Bridge would likely follow him to Reading too. That would leave our team, and me, totally gutted.
Gee Jay
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9:39am Thu 21 Mar 13
Big Parachute payment for transfer funding in the Championship.
Big money promise from Russian owner.
Smaller support base.
Quick sacking from the Russian if he is not happy after the first 10 or 12 matches back in the Championship.
Then where do you go Gus?
Get Albion promoted this year or next and wait for the Chelsea or Spurs call.
You will retain you stock within the game.
tug509
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9:41am Thu 21 Mar 13
Carter_Cooldancer wrote:Good luck with your £30 Carter,without being too dramatic,lets hope its not a case of 30 pieces of silver!...UTA
I laid £30 on Betfair this morning that Poyet WILL NOT be Reading's next permanent manager. If he does go then I will lose £51. The rules say that the bet won't be settled if an interim manager (end of the season, caretaker etc) is put in place and it is communicated in that way by the club. If that does happen, Poyet or not, I would have to wait until next season to collect or lose my money.
There is a chance Reading will dp that as I believe most top managers will wait to see if Reading survive the drop, which is unlikely.
So if Poyet does jump ship, and walks away with a massive cash payment, I think I'll ping him an invoice for £51. But I honestly can't see him taking the job It's an easy, low risk £30 IMO.
WestStander17
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9:41am Thu 21 Mar 13
fan4life wrote:This!
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Whilst I am worried that Gus is going to leave us, well if it happens we just have to move on. What worries me most though is the thought of that clown Adkins pitching up as our new manager.
Odds drifting to 8/11 this morning, with Adkins shortening to 15/8... still, I'm more than a wee bit concerned.
Would be the very worst of all outcomes
I really hope we aren't looking for a new manager in the next week or two but, if we are, please not Adkins!!! We can do way better than that!!!
I just don't see Reading as aforward move for Gus. Yes, they might have money but to turn a whole squad over as Gus would probably want and challenge for promotion in the first season woule require HUGE funds! Their squad is not substantially better than our's, if at all. Thats before the surviving lower Prem clubs have snatched their better players. Even with the money, I can't see them being in a much stronger position for promotion than us next season. Would be a strange move, IMHO.
Stranger things have happened though but, if it does, please lets aim higher than Adkins!!!
Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
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9:43am Thu 21 Mar 13
Gee Jay wrote:That's exactly how I see it, GJ. If Gus is playing the long game career-wise, a move to Reading would not be his best option. He will continue to see his stock rise by staying at Brighton, whether or not he gets us promotion this season, and a bigger fish will step in asking to be fried. Chelsea? West Ham?
Handful of games to save Royals.
Big Parachute payment for transfer funding in the Championship.
Big money promise from Russian owner.
Smaller support base.
Quick sacking from the Russian if he is not happy after the first 10 or 12 matches back in the Championship.
Then where do you go Gus?
Get Albion promoted this year or next and wait for the Chelsea or Spurs call.
You will retain you stock within the game.
the herbster
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9:46am Thu 21 Mar 13
berrydale
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9:46am Thu 21 Mar 13
'The Albion manager admitted: "This is a day to stop time and stay here forever. I'd like to finish a season like this."
He added: "If you need to leave, your last game at the football club, this is the perfect way to leave and to finish a career. '
Reading it is then.
WestStander17
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9:49am Thu 21 Mar 13
pjwilk wrote:Surely not. We have a brand of Football now. A brand we can be proud of. Even if Gus leaves, surely we would replace him with someone that would continue this rather than turn our back on it and go back towards typical British, direct, kick-and-rush Football?!
If Gus goes i would be very disapointed in him.Bring in Adkins and Wilkins (if it happens),Wilkins was doing a very good job when he was dumped.At least we would have more direct football with attacking intent as with the Saints.
I'd be disappointed to lose Gus but even more disappointed to waste the last few years and give up our identity.
sloughseagull
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9:52am Thu 21 Mar 13
mark by the sea
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9:52am Thu 21 Mar 13
the herbster wrote:Why? Don't think he can manage a sandwich ! We need someone with a personality, Gary Neville would be better, but the club need to move on , not risk a manc
If does go then all well and good its his decision.Then if i was Tony Bloom i would go for Phil Neville
hannover seagull
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9:56am Thu 21 Mar 13
Liam could get the nod tomorrow as both Scott Brown and Darren Fletcher are out for Scotland
Strachan has been talking him up recently and I really wish it for him
Should do well, only Gareth Bale to mark
UTA...........
Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
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9:59am Thu 21 Mar 13
WestStander17
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10:01am Thu 21 Mar 13
hannover seagull wrote:Yes, I was thinking this last night. If he starts, I will be watching Scotland! Never thought I'd say that!!!
Off topic but on a more cheery note
Liam could get the nod tomorrow as both Scott Brown and Darren Fletcher are out for Scotland
Strachan has been talking him up recently and I really wish it for him
Should do well, only Gareth Bale to mark
UTA...........
mikeygit
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10:17am Thu 21 Mar 13
ever the decision we will move on and we will continue to support the club---praise them and criticise them as we always have done--but the sooner this is over the better. I guess the 'press embargo' stops even more speculation--they are damned if they do and damned if they don't!!
Old Scrote of the Amex
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10:19am Thu 21 Mar 13
mark by the sea wrote:I'm not sure personality is particularly relevant. Tactical nous is probably more of a stumbling block for Phil Neville. And he's English, which never fills me with confidence!
the herbster wrote:Why? Don't think he can manage a sandwich ! We need someone with a personality, Gary Neville would be better, but the club need to move on , not risk a manc
If does go then all well and good its his decision.Then if i was Tony Bloom i would go for Phil Neville
pte
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10:21am Thu 21 Mar 13
Remember when Nicky Forster said he was available when he knew he would be shown the door at the end of the season? Gus said it was unnacceptable when Albion were still not safe from relegation. So what's the difference here when Brighton are trying to get promoted?
Gus has a contract and it's unfair on the players to jump ship now unless they are not that bothered if he goes!
It has been clear for some time that Gus was not entirely happy at the club complaining about budget restrictions and blaming the club for the loss of GM. Reading will be in the Championship next season but Gus must have been promised more money and money talks
Get Adkins in ASAP but I suppose we have to wait until Gus makes up his mind or irons out all the details of a new contract
Ohnotagain !
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10:22am Thu 21 Mar 13
sloughseagull wrote:So he has spoken them, has he? Anybody confirmed that yet?
This management merrygoround has been a nightmare for many clubs this season. You only have to look as far as Blackburn Rovers, what a joke that club is. If Gus wants to go to Reading it means he doesn't want to be at the Albion, I for one don't want him here if his heart isn't in it but in saying that where does it say he wants to go? So he has spoken them, has he? Anybody confirmed that yet? Anyway what will be will be and if he does go then look no further than Brian McDermott.
He and Paul Barber met with Reading representatives at Gatwick yesterday prior to his flight to Barbados.
GovindaTim
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10:27am Thu 21 Mar 13
Seagull83
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10:28am Thu 21 Mar 13
If Poyet goes there eberything he told us about only going to a big club was a lie.
We have history, Reading don't.
Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
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10:30am Thu 21 Mar 13
GovindaTim wrote:I'm fully prepared to stoke that particular fire. IH was severely rounded on by CP supporters after the Albion defeat so he'll know his honeymoon is well and truly over. Reading's long-term prospects are surely better than Palace's?
Latest rumour is Ian Holloway from Palarse to Reading.
pte
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10:31am Thu 21 Mar 13
mark by the sea wrote:Yes but Gus is a big head with an inflated ego and is convinced given unlimited funds he can walk on water and get Reading up at the first attempt
fansince57 wrote:Yes indeed, the new guy will have a massive job, but Gus would have too, imagine them going down and he fails to get them promoted next season, problem with foriegn money is they want results now, the step up in budget brings its own pressures.
Although I'd be extremely disappointed if Gus goes, I think with someone like Di Matteo at the helm we would continue to prosper. My bigger concern is that Gus would come back to raid our best players - Bridcutt for sure, almost certainly Spanish Dave (out of contract at end of season), possibly Ulloa, and Bridge would likely follow him to Reading too. That would leave our team, and me, totally gutted.
Don Pedro
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10:36am Thu 21 Mar 13
It's clear to me that Gus's first loyalty is to himself, otherwise, why get into talks with Reading in the first place? By laying down this marker, even if he doesn't go, he has clearly indicated his days here are very numbered.
Reading could well turn out to be a poisoned chalice though, as other contributors here also indicate.
Bish May Turn
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10:36am Thu 21 Mar 13
mikeygit
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10:38am Thu 21 Mar 13
H!! Agree I think Albion are bigger than Reading--money does not necessarily mean you are a bigger Club
Ohnotagain---strange statement you make--I thought the general understanding was that Gus had been in the West Indies several days and yet you say he met YESTERDAY at Gatwick--how can you be sure or is this just another rumour/speculation?? Anyone know for DEFINITE when Gus flew out??
Gee Jay
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10:49am Thu 21 Mar 13
Stay and see the whole project through Gus, finish what you started. After this you might fiind that T.B finds a bit more for the transfer kitty..
Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
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10:58am Thu 21 Mar 13
Ohnotagain !
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11:02am Thu 21 Mar 13
mikeygit wrote:I wish I could reveal my source but cannot, He flew out yesterday morning, British Airways to Barbados but first met with reading in a private room before he went
pte--I disagree with your and others interpretation of Gus's comments about budget--as not being happy at the club--I believe he was telling it as it is. Every club should be run on good business lines and as we have seen many who have not are in dire straights--PORTSMOUT
H!! Agree I think Albion are bigger than Reading--money does not necessarily mean you are a bigger Club
Ohnotagain---strange statement you make--I thought the general understanding was that Gus had been in the West Indies several days and yet you say he met YESTERDAY at Gatwick--how can you be sure or is this just another rumour/speculation?? Anyone know for DEFINITE when Gus flew out??
That is all, end of, lets wait and see now...
OzzieGull
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11:06am Thu 21 Mar 13
GovindaTim
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11:10am Thu 21 Mar 13
Ohnotagain ! wrote:British Airways do not fly direct to Barbados, this can be easily checked on BA website. Try again Ohnotagain.
mikeygit wrote:I wish I could reveal my source but cannot, He flew out yesterday morning, British Airways to Barbados but first met with reading in a private room before he went
pte--I disagree with your and others interpretation of Gus's comments about budget--as not being happy at the club--I believe he was telling it as it is. Every club should be run on good business lines and as we have seen many who have not are in dire straights--PORTSMOUT
H!! Agree I think Albion are bigger than Reading--money does not necessarily mean you are a bigger Club
Ohnotagain---strange statement you make--I thought the general understanding was that Gus had been in the West Indies several days and yet you say he met YESTERDAY at Gatwick--how can you be sure or is this just another rumour/speculation?? Anyone know for DEFINITE when Gus flew out??
That is all, end of, lets wait and see now...
Old Scrote of the Amex
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11:11am Thu 21 Mar 13
pte wrote:To be fair, given a 'parachute' budget he almost certainly could.
mark by the sea wrote:Yes but Gus is a big head with an inflated ego and is convinced given unlimited funds he can walk on water and get Reading up at the first attempt
fansince57 wrote:Yes indeed, the new guy will have a massive job, but Gus would have too, imagine them going down and he fails to get them promoted next season, problem with foriegn money is they want results now, the step up in budget brings its own pressures.
Although I'd be extremely disappointed if Gus goes, I think with someone like Di Matteo at the helm we would continue to prosper. My bigger concern is that Gus would come back to raid our best players - Bridcutt for sure, almost certainly Spanish Dave (out of contract at end of season), possibly Ulloa, and Bridge would likely follow him to Reading too. That would leave our team, and me, totally gutted.
rolivan
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11:12am Thu 21 Mar 13
Ohnotagain ! wrote:So this Private room was it airside?
mikeygit wrote:I wish I could reveal my source but cannot, He flew out yesterday morning, British Airways to Barbados but first met with reading in a private room before he went
pte--I disagree with your and others interpretation of Gus's comments about budget--as not being happy at the club--I believe he was telling it as it is. Every club should be run on good business lines and as we have seen many who have not are in dire straights--PORTSMOUT
H!! Agree I think Albion are bigger than Reading--money does not necessarily mean you are a bigger Club
Ohnotagain---strange statement you make--I thought the general understanding was that Gus had been in the West Indies several days and yet you say he met YESTERDAY at Gatwick--how can you be sure or is this just another rumour/speculation?? Anyone know for DEFINITE when Gus flew out??
That is all, end of, lets wait and see now...
Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
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11:14am Thu 21 Mar 13
GovindaTim wrote:Oh yes they do!
Ohnotagain ! wrote:British Airways do not fly direct to Barbados, this can be easily checked on BA website. Try again Ohnotagain.
mikeygit wrote:I wish I could reveal my source but cannot, He flew out yesterday morning, British Airways to Barbados but first met with reading in a private room before he went
pte--I disagree with your and others interpretation of Gus's comments about budget--as not being happy at the club--I believe he was telling it as it is. Every club should be run on good business lines and as we have seen many who have not are in dire straights--PORTSMOUT
H!! Agree I think Albion are bigger than Reading--money does not necessarily mean you are a bigger Club
Ohnotagain---strange statement you make--I thought the general understanding was that Gus had been in the West Indies several days and yet you say he met YESTERDAY at Gatwick--how can you be sure or is this just another rumour/speculation?? Anyone know for DEFINITE when Gus flew out??
That is all, end of, lets wait and see now...
Baldseagull
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11:16am Thu 21 Mar 13
Don Pedro wrote:Gus will do what is best for him, as any Manager would.
What will Gus do? Will he do what's best for the Albion or what's best for him?
It's clear to me that Gus's first loyalty is to himself, otherwise, why get into talks with Reading in the first place? By laying down this marker, even if he doesn't go, he has clearly indicated his days here are very numbered.
Reading could well turn out to be a poisoned chalice though, as other contributors here also indicate.
If the club have told Reading they will have to pay large compensation if they take him, and they say OK, then they can talk to him.
Anyone would at least listen to someone offering them a job, even if they think it unlikely that it would interest them.
He will listen, take a respectful amount of time to consider it and politely decline the offer, because he is better off here, not because he loves Brighton. Though he might use the situation to try and get something out of Tony in between the offer and the refusal.
Hovite
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11:17am Thu 21 Mar 13
pte wrote:Does this comment put you in the hate Gus brigade?
This is not good for the I luv Gus brigade.
Remember when Nicky Forster said he was available when he knew he would be shown the door at the end of the season? Gus said it was unnacceptable when Albion were still not safe from relegation. So what's the difference here when Brighton are trying to get promoted?
Gus has a contract and it's unfair on the players to jump ship now unless they are not that bothered if he goes!
It has been clear for some time that Gus was not entirely happy at the club complaining about budget restrictions and blaming the club for the loss of GM. Reading will be in the Championship next season but Gus must have been promised more money and money talks
Get Adkins in ASAP but I suppose we have to wait until Gus makes up his mind or irons out all the details of a new contract
If you cross your fingers and stick them up your 4r5e, it might just happen.
Ohnotagain !
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11:18am Thu 21 Mar 13
GovindaTim wrote:I am fully aware of where they fly to direct, I WORK THERE and have direct dealings with BA in my job and can assure you that they do......
Ohnotagain ! wrote:British Airways do not fly direct to Barbados, this can be easily checked on BA website. Try again Ohnotagain.
mikeygit wrote:I wish I could reveal my source but cannot, He flew out yesterday morning, British Airways to Barbados but first met with reading in a private room before he went
pte--I disagree with your and others interpretation of Gus's comments about budget--as not being happy at the club--I believe he was telling it as it is. Every club should be run on good business lines and as we have seen many who have not are in dire straights--PORTSMOUT
H!! Agree I think Albion are bigger than Reading--money does not necessarily mean you are a bigger Club
Ohnotagain---strange statement you make--I thought the general understanding was that Gus had been in the West Indies several days and yet you say he met YESTERDAY at Gatwick--how can you be sure or is this just another rumour/speculation?? Anyone know for DEFINITE when Gus flew out??
That is all, end of, lets wait and see now...
Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
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11:18am Thu 21 Mar 13
Baldseagull wrote:Spot on Baldseagull - a reasonable assessment.
Don Pedro wrote:Gus will do what is best for him, as any Manager would.
What will Gus do? Will he do what's best for the Albion or what's best for him?
It's clear to me that Gus's first loyalty is to himself, otherwise, why get into talks with Reading in the first place? By laying down this marker, even if he doesn't go, he has clearly indicated his days here are very numbered.
Reading could well turn out to be a poisoned chalice though, as other contributors here also indicate.
If the club have told Reading they will have to pay large compensation if they take him, and they say OK, then they can talk to him.
Anyone would at least listen to someone offering them a job, even if they think it unlikely that it would interest them.
He will listen, take a respectful amount of time to consider it and politely decline the offer, because he is better off here, not because he loves Brighton. Though he might use the situation to try and get something out of Tony in between the offer and the refusal.
Old Scrote of the Amex
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11:21am Thu 21 Mar 13
GovindaTim wrote:I wish you were right, but it can indeed be checked with BA: http://www.britishai
Ohnotagain ! wrote:British Airways do not fly direct to Barbados, this can be easily checked on BA website. Try again Ohnotagain.
mikeygit wrote:I wish I could reveal my source but cannot, He flew out yesterday morning, British Airways to Barbados but first met with reading in a private room before he went
pte--I disagree with your and others interpretation of Gus's comments about budget--as not being happy at the club--I believe he was telling it as it is. Every club should be run on good business lines and as we have seen many who have not are in dire straights--PORTSMOUT
H!! Agree I think Albion are bigger than Reading--money does not necessarily mean you are a bigger Club
Ohnotagain---strange statement you make--I thought the general understanding was that Gus had been in the West Indies several days and yet you say he met YESTERDAY at Gatwick--how can you be sure or is this just another rumour/speculation?? Anyone know for DEFINITE when Gus flew out??
That is all, end of, lets wait and see now...
rways.com/en-gb/dest
inations/barbados/fl
ights-to-barbados
Seagulls Over Surrey (SOS)
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11:25am Thu 21 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:Do you mean the BA website that says;
GovindaTim wrote:I wish you were right, but it can indeed be checked with BA: http://www.britishai
Ohnotagain ! wrote:British Airways do not fly direct to Barbados, this can be easily checked on BA website. Try again Ohnotagain.
mikeygit wrote:I wish I could reveal my source but cannot, He flew out yesterday morning, British Airways to Barbados but first met with reading in a private room before he went
pte--I disagree with your and others interpretation of Gus's comments about budget--as not being happy at the club--I believe he was telling it as it is. Every club should be run on good business lines and as we have seen many who have not are in dire straights--PORTSMOUT
H!! Agree I think Albion are bigger than Reading--money does not necessarily mean you are a bigger Club
Ohnotagain---strange statement you make--I thought the general understanding was that Gus had been in the West Indies several days and yet you say he met YESTERDAY at Gatwick--how can you be sure or is this just another rumour/speculation?? Anyone know for DEFINITE when Gus flew out??
That is all, end of, lets wait and see now...
rways.com/en-gb/dest
inations/barbados/fl
ights-to-barbados
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Hector66
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11:25am Thu 21 Mar 13
here we just have a no comment which, given the massive nature of this story, is a very poor reflection on the Argus's sport desk.
dave from bexill
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11:26am Thu 21 Mar 13
Hector66 wrote:Better coverage in the national press? What coverage? All I've seen and heard so far is pure speculation. If the Argus was coming out with the same stuff, would that make it more real? Of course it wouldn't. The paper has informed us of the rumour's and I'm sure Andy Naylor and the others will gives us the facts, once the club let them know what they are.
even allowing for how difficult it can be for local reporters in terms of not "upsetting" the team's hierarchy upon whom they rely for stories on a day-to-day basis, this really is the most lamentable reporting.
no up-to-date quotes from anyone involved. nothing from guy or bloom or reading or oatway or tarrico or even anything recent from barber.
there is better coverage in the national press yet this is a massive, massive, massive local, Brighton story.
what a shocker!
you better get with it guys 'cos at the moment you are caught with your pants firmly down and your backsides on fire.
Far gull
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11:26am Thu 21 Mar 13
GovindaTim wrote:Strange i've flown direct to barbados on a BA flight. This is all conjecture he is not going to Reading.
Ohnotagain ! wrote:British Airways do not fly direct to Barbados, this can be easily checked on BA website. Try again Ohnotagain.
mikeygit wrote:I wish I could reveal my source but cannot, He flew out yesterday morning, British Airways to Barbados but first met with reading in a private room before he went
pte--I disagree with your and others interpretation of Gus's comments about budget--as not being happy at the club--I believe he was telling it as it is. Every club should be run on good business lines and as we have seen many who have not are in dire straights--PORTSMOUT
H!! Agree I think Albion are bigger than Reading--money does not necessarily mean you are a bigger Club
Ohnotagain---strange statement you make--I thought the general understanding was that Gus had been in the West Indies several days and yet you say he met YESTERDAY at Gatwick--how can you be sure or is this just another rumour/speculation?? Anyone know for DEFINITE when Gus flew out??
That is all, end of, lets wait and see now...
Ohnotagain !
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11:28am Thu 21 Mar 13
Old Scrote of the Amex wrote:I only ever post factual information,
GovindaTim wrote:I wish you were right, but it can indeed be checked with BA: http://www.britishai
Ohnotagain ! wrote:British Airways do not fly direct to Barbados, this can be easily checked on BA website. Try again Ohnotagain.
mikeygit wrote:I wish I could reveal my source but cannot, He flew out yesterday morning, British Airways to Barbados but first met with reading in a private room before he went
pte--I disagree with your and others interpretation of Gus's comments about budget--as not being happy at the club--I believe he was telling it as it is. Every club should be run on good business lines and as we have seen many who have not are in dire straights--PORTSMOUT
H!! Agree I think Albion are bigger than Reading--money does not necessarily mean you are a bigger Club
Ohnotagain---strange statement you make--I thought the general understanding was that Gus had been in the West Indies several days and yet you say he met YESTERDAY at Gatwick--how can you be sure or is this just another rumour/speculation?? Anyone know for DEFINITE when Gus flew out??
That is all, end of, lets wait and see now...
rways.com/en-gb/dest
inations/barbados/fl
ights-to-barbados
I could tell you their actual seat numbers as well, but that would be to much info.
I more than anyone do not want to see him go, but at the end of the day it's up to him..
Hovite
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11:39am Thu 21 Mar 13
Baldseagull wrote:Good post Baldseagull;
Don Pedro wrote:Gus will do what is best for him, as any Manager would.
What will Gus do? Will he do what's best for the Albion or what's best for him?
It's clear to me that Gus's first loyalty is to himself, otherwise, why get into talks with Reading in the first place? By laying down this marker, even if he doesn't go, he has clearly indicated his days here are very numbered.
Reading could well turn out to be a poisoned chalice though, as other contributors here also indicate.
If the club have told Reading they will have to pay large compensation if they take him, and they say OK, then they can talk to him.
Anyone would at least listen to someone offering them a job, even if they think it unlikely that it would interest them.
He will listen, take a respectful amount of time to consider it and politely decline the offer, because he is better off here, not because he loves Brighton. Though he might use the situation to try and get something out of Tony in between the offer and the refusal.
Gus would speak to anyone to get a value on his services. Even TB would want to know how much a club is willing to pay for him.
Understanding your asset stock value is business. Anyone who thinks he will be off should shake their heads and clean out their minds, and anyone who is hoping he goes, well, it’s just another opportunity to be pathetic really.
dave from bexill
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11:58am Thu 21 Mar 13
Mr.Manchester-Gull
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12:03pm Thu 21 Mar 13
On balance i can't see Gus to going to reading where the prospects - both short and long term - don't appear to be as fruitful as down here. But then on the whole We'll just have to take it as it comes won't we? If we lose Gus we've got the squad for another manager to step in and get the squad up for it and finish off a successful play off push.
UTA
Hector66
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12:04pm Thu 21 Mar 13
you can't sit back and wait like that
nor should you deal in rumours
you contacts should trust you so even when they can't be quoted, they can still have briefed you behind the scenes so you can write informatively
VegasSeagull
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12:24pm Thu 21 Mar 13
If Gus were to go to Reading at this time then I would say he is crazy. A move now to Reading would have to be all about next year, this year is over for them, IMHO.
As Brighton are still in the hunt for promotion it would mean that Gus thinks we can't get there so he would prefer his chances next year with Reading. Would Gus not rather manage Brighton in the prem rather than Reading in the Championship.
One thing for sure is that if Gus does go to Reading he will, 'have,' to suceed next year, he will look very foolish if he doesn't.
If this move is about next years budget and nothing more then I find it a strange move, why leave now when we don't even know where we will be playing next year.
Maybe Dalglish as a replacement, not sure what he is up to these days.
pte
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1:35pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Hovite wrote:You'd better put in for a council house transfer to Reading ASAP so you can be closer to Gussy wussy
pte wrote:Does this comment put you in the hate Gus brigade?
This is not good for the I luv Gus brigade.
Remember when Nicky Forster said he was available when he knew he would be shown the door at the end of the season? Gus said it was unnacceptable when Albion were still not safe from relegation. So what's the difference here when Brighton are trying to get promoted?
Gus has a contract and it's unfair on the players to jump ship now unless they are not that bothered if he goes!
It has been clear for some time that Gus was not entirely happy at the club complaining about budget restrictions and blaming the club for the loss of GM. Reading will be in the Championship next season but Gus must have been promised more money and money talks
Get Adkins in ASAP but I suppose we have to wait until Gus makes up his mind or irons out all the details of a new contract
If you cross your fingers and stick them up your 4r5e, it might just happen.
pte
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1:52pm Thu 21 Mar 13
Fact that Gus is willing to talk to Reading and sabotage his own team's promotion push shows disloyalty
Think about it. If Poyet enters negotiations with another club not only does he leave the players in limbo, but even if he decides to stay there is such a sour atmosphere between management and Poyet afterwards that the promotion push will end in shambles.
So the club is now in an impossible situation. They have to wait until Poyet makes up his mind. After this they would probably want rid but he has a long contract so they are stuffed.
If the rumors are untrue then Poyet needs to say that. He owes the fans and the players a public comittment for the final big push.
If he doesn't then you know the negotiations are serious
mark by the sea says...
8:58am Thu 21 Mar 13