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Deadline Day: Albion reject Palace bids for star duo

The Argus: Injured Liam Bridcutt is also a target for Albion's arch-rivals Injured Liam Bridcutt is also a target for Albion's arch-rivals

Albion have rejected cheeky attempts by arch-rivals Crystal Palace to pinch their two best players.

The Seagulls have turned down deadline bids from the Premier League newcomers for Leo Ulloa and Liam Bridcutt.

Follow all the deadline day drama on our liveblog here.

Club sources have confirmed to The Argus that offers of around £5 million have been made for Argentinian hitman Ulloa and £1.75 million for Scottish international defensive midfielder Bridcutt.

But with the transfer window closing at 11pm tonight and Albion keen to mount another Championship promotion challenge, they have no intention of losing either player.

Ulloa bagged his fourth goal in five Championship outings in Saturday’s 1-1 draw against Millwall at The Amex.

Bridcutt is recovering from a hernia operation which has sidelined him since the opening two games of the campaign.

Team-mate Keith Andrews, signed on loan from Bolton Wanderers for the season, said: “I certainly hope nobody goes, because I think we have got a really good mix.

“A few of us have only been here a few weeks but I am very impressed by the mix we have got in the dressing room, with experience, youth, foreign, English, Irish.

“If we hold on to what we have got I am confident we can have a very successful season.”

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8:16am Mon 2 Sep 13

dave from bexill says...

Hi Neville and others. Doe that response from the club help settle you ?
Hi Neville and others. Doe that response from the club help settle you ? dave from bexill
  • Score: 4

8:29am Mon 2 Sep 13

kipper12 says...

i certainly dont want those 2 going to the palarse !!!!

glad it got rejected , but will they come back with a higher offer ??

1.75m for LB is an insult !!!! cheeky scummers !!!
i certainly dont want those 2 going to the palarse !!!! glad it got rejected , but will they come back with a higher offer ?? 1.75m for LB is an insult !!!! cheeky scummers !!! kipper12
  • Score: 9

8:30am Mon 2 Sep 13

lotsofducks says...

Less than 2 million for Bridcutt? Someone in Croydon has forgotten to take his medication!!!!
Less than 2 million for Bridcutt? Someone in Croydon has forgotten to take his medication!!!! lotsofducks
  • Score: 13

8:34am Mon 2 Sep 13

thetungsten says...

they are having a giraffe!!Jog on you bunch of jokers!
they are having a giraffe!!Jog on you bunch of jokers! thetungsten
  • Score: 9

8:40am Mon 2 Sep 13

Steveg1958 says...

These derisory bids from Palace, may only be the start, with Mr Barbers eyes lighting up with pound signs, I expect further bids and accepted ones at that as clearly Mr Tony Blooms stated ambition is not matched by Barber, especially as he gets commision on his salary based on how much money he makes for the club. We heard all sorts of rubbish about four of five players coming in and so far all we have is freebies and loans and the possibility of losing the two best players at the club. Keep taking the corporate money Barber and stuff the fans, If they go so do my four season tickets !!! Ambition what ambition ?
These derisory bids from Palace, may only be the start, with Mr Barbers eyes lighting up with pound signs, I expect further bids and accepted ones at that as clearly Mr Tony Blooms stated ambition is not matched by Barber, especially as he gets commision on his salary based on how much money he makes for the club. We heard all sorts of rubbish about four of five players coming in and so far all we have is freebies and loans and the possibility of losing the two best players at the club. Keep taking the corporate money Barber and stuff the fans, If they go so do my four season tickets !!! Ambition what ambition ? Steveg1958
  • Score: -10

8:42am Mon 2 Sep 13

OldGull says...

kipper12 wrote:
i certainly dont want those 2 going to the palarse !!!!

glad it got rejected , but will they come back with a higher offer ??

1.75m for LB is an insult !!!! cheeky scummers !!!
They did offer up some lucky Heather and to pave the drive as well
[quote][p][bold]kipper12[/bold] wrote: i certainly dont want those 2 going to the palarse !!!! glad it got rejected , but will they come back with a higher offer ?? 1.75m for LB is an insult !!!! cheeky scummers !!![/p][/quote]They did offer up some lucky Heather and to pave the drive as well OldGull
  • Score: 16

8:48am Mon 2 Sep 13

B rian Tawses left foot says...

Ten million for the both of them might tempt the albion. Anything less in really just an insult. I know Holloway has a sense of humour but less than £2 million for Bridders - really !
Ten million for the both of them might tempt the albion. Anything less in really just an insult. I know Holloway has a sense of humour but less than £2 million for Bridders - really ! B rian Tawses left foot
  • Score: 5

8:50am Mon 2 Sep 13

mikeygit says...

Cheek!!! and to Palace!!! Still hopefull of a signing by us today--I think they are keeping their cards very close to their chest--only a hunch mind you! We do not want to lose ANY players today---be glad when it is over and we can concentrate 100% on getting good results and players back from injury.
Cheek!!! and to Palace!!! Still hopefull of a signing by us today--I think they are keeping their cards very close to their chest--only a hunch mind you! We do not want to lose ANY players today---be glad when it is over and we can concentrate 100% on getting good results and players back from injury. mikeygit
  • Score: 1

9:06am Mon 2 Sep 13

thetungsten says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
Ten million for the both of them might tempt the albion. Anything less in really just an insult. I know Holloway has a sense of humour but less than £2 million for Bridders - really !
With Tom Ince likely to leave blackpool for c£10million, that tells me that Bridcutt + Ulloa combined should fetch something that is £10m ++, although I really cannot see Ulloa going anywhere!.... if anyone is to go this window it will be bridcutt- only of course if the money is right....not £1.75m!
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: Ten million for the both of them might tempt the albion. Anything less in really just an insult. I know Holloway has a sense of humour but less than £2 million for Bridders - really ![/p][/quote]With Tom Ince likely to leave blackpool for c£10million, that tells me that Bridcutt + Ulloa combined should fetch something that is £10m ++, although I really cannot see Ulloa going anywhere!.... if anyone is to go this window it will be bridcutt- only of course if the money is right....not £1.75m! thetungsten
  • Score: 6

9:10am Mon 2 Sep 13

OldGull says...

Steveg1958 wrote:
These derisory bids from Palace, may only be the start, with Mr Barbers eyes lighting up with pound signs, I expect further bids and accepted ones at that as clearly Mr Tony Blooms stated ambition is not matched by Barber, especially as he gets commision on his salary based on how much money he makes for the club. We heard all sorts of rubbish about four of five players coming in and so far all we have is freebies and loans and the possibility of losing the two best players at the club. Keep taking the corporate money Barber and stuff the fans, If they go so do my four season tickets !!! Ambition what ambition ?
They will not go without TB's approval.
You can bang on about Barber, but he is doing his job with TB's approval.

We have moved from a lower league 1 side to just missing out on the prem in 3 years.
Look back 12 months, We have a stronger squad now than then.

Ok so we could not keep Bridge which is a shame but he would not have fitted in to our wage structure
We have lost Hammond, Dicker, Painter & Vicente (the latter never fit) and replaced them with Andrews, Agustien, Ward & Chicksen.
Ince has been a revelation and is only 19 and there is also
JFC and March on the fringe of the 1st team.

Of course the 1 area of concern is a striker. There are few around in our price range. Who could we get in this country for 2 or 3 mill?
Our best hope at this stage is to get a good loan player in for the season, which I still believe will happen once the prem clubs have completed business.
We certainly don't want to panic and buy a Dobbie do we?

Are you really thinking of jacking in your season tickets 5 games in?
If you are then you are not a real supporter, certainly not one who supported the team in the Withdean years
[quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: These derisory bids from Palace, may only be the start, with Mr Barbers eyes lighting up with pound signs, I expect further bids and accepted ones at that as clearly Mr Tony Blooms stated ambition is not matched by Barber, especially as he gets commision on his salary based on how much money he makes for the club. We heard all sorts of rubbish about four of five players coming in and so far all we have is freebies and loans and the possibility of losing the two best players at the club. Keep taking the corporate money Barber and stuff the fans, If they go so do my four season tickets !!! Ambition what ambition ?[/p][/quote]They will not go without TB's approval. You can bang on about Barber, but he is doing his job with TB's approval. We have moved from a lower league 1 side to just missing out on the prem in 3 years. Look back 12 months, We have a stronger squad now than then. Ok so we could not keep Bridge which is a shame but he would not have fitted in to our wage structure We have lost Hammond, Dicker, Painter & Vicente (the latter never fit) and replaced them with Andrews, Agustien, Ward & Chicksen. Ince has been a revelation and is only 19 and there is also JFC and March on the fringe of the 1st team. Of course the 1 area of concern is a striker. There are few around in our price range. Who could we get in this country for 2 or 3 mill? Our best hope at this stage is to get a good loan player in for the season, which I still believe will happen once the prem clubs have completed business. We certainly don't want to panic and buy a Dobbie do we? Are you really thinking of jacking in your season tickets 5 games in? If you are then you are not a real supporter, certainly not one who supported the team in the Withdean years OldGull
  • Score: 16

9:26am Mon 2 Sep 13

DuncanThickett says...

I really want 11pm to hurry up and go! Really nervous about the Ulloa and Bridcutt bids. If they go, we may as well accept mid-table at best. We need to strengthen up front, not weaken. I hope the powers that be will be looking at the long term plan, rather than turning in a quick profit. UTA - win, lose, i'll forever support the team, whoever they are!
I really want 11pm to hurry up and go! Really nervous about the Ulloa and Bridcutt bids. If they go, we may as well accept mid-table at best. We need to strengthen up front, not weaken. I hope the powers that be will be looking at the long term plan, rather than turning in a quick profit. UTA - win, lose, i'll forever support the team, whoever they are! DuncanThickett
  • Score: 1

9:27am Mon 2 Sep 13

AburridoEnTrabajo says...

If we could sell Bridcutt for about 3m and use the money to bring in a decent striker I'd take it. But it would have to be a decent striker, otherwise there's no point. Ulloa is going nowhere.
If we could sell Bridcutt for about 3m and use the money to bring in a decent striker I'd take it. But it would have to be a decent striker, otherwise there's no point. Ulloa is going nowhere. AburridoEnTrabajo
  • Score: -3

9:30am Mon 2 Sep 13

Shaftesbury Seagull says...

What about Murray in on loan when he's fit? He's surely surplus to Palace's requirements now!
What about Murray in on loan when he's fit? He's surely surplus to Palace's requirements now! Shaftesbury Seagull
  • Score: -17

9:32am Mon 2 Sep 13

Alfie T says...

I can see TB having to dig a little deeper to keep Leo & Liam, and I'm sure he will do what is necessary, if we finish the day with the same squad i will be happy and relieved.
Then perhaps a loan or two, as seems to be favourite with OG, Spanish addition ?
I can see TB having to dig a little deeper to keep Leo & Liam, and I'm sure he will do what is necessary, if we finish the day with the same squad i will be happy and relieved. Then perhaps a loan or two, as seems to be favourite with OG, Spanish addition ? Alfie T
  • Score: 1

9:42am Mon 2 Sep 13

tug509 says...

Barber gets commission on his salary for making money for the club!, what`s next put the Amex up for sale so Barber can buy a new car?. Seems it`s more in his interest if we dont sign anyone! ,strange way to do things.

This is nothing short of PATHETIC, Forest will have spent £9m if they land David Nugent from leicester,stay within the FFP rules,but not at ANY cost or we wont have any players left.....but very rich administrators,step in Mr Bloom and sort it out,before we sell the family silver!. UTA
Barber gets commission on his salary for making money for the club!, what`s next put the Amex up for sale so Barber can buy a new car?. Seems it`s more in his interest if we dont sign anyone! ,strange way to do things. This is nothing short of PATHETIC, Forest will have spent £9m if they land David Nugent from leicester,stay within the FFP rules,but not at ANY cost or we wont have any players left.....but very rich administrators,step in Mr Bloom and sort it out,before we sell the family silver!. UTA tug509
  • Score: -8

9:58am Mon 2 Sep 13

Neville says...

Attn Dave from Bexhill
Yes thats fine but has that come from the club,nothing on the website or from the Argus?
There is still time for some frenzied activity to go on,hopefully not outward.
Attn Dave from Bexhill Yes thats fine but has that come from the club,nothing on the website or from the Argus? There is still time for some frenzied activity to go on,hopefully not outward. Neville
  • Score: 1

10:06am Mon 2 Sep 13

Steveg1958 says...

OldGull wrote:
Steveg1958 wrote: These derisory bids from Palace, may only be the start, with Mr Barbers eyes lighting up with pound signs, I expect further bids and accepted ones at that as clearly Mr Tony Blooms stated ambition is not matched by Barber, especially as he gets commision on his salary based on how much money he makes for the club. We heard all sorts of rubbish about four of five players coming in and so far all we have is freebies and loans and the possibility of losing the two best players at the club. Keep taking the corporate money Barber and stuff the fans, If they go so do my four season tickets !!! Ambition what ambition ?
They will not go without TB's approval. You can bang on about Barber, but he is doing his job with TB's approval. We have moved from a lower league 1 side to just missing out on the prem in 3 years. Look back 12 months, We have a stronger squad now than then. Ok so we could not keep Bridge which is a shame but he would not have fitted in to our wage structure We have lost Hammond, Dicker, Painter & Vicente (the latter never fit) and replaced them with Andrews, Agustien, Ward & Chicksen. Ince has been a revelation and is only 19 and there is also JFC and March on the fringe of the 1st team. Of course the 1 area of concern is a striker. There are few around in our price range. Who could we get in this country for 2 or 3 mill? Our best hope at this stage is to get a good loan player in for the season, which I still believe will happen once the prem clubs have completed business. We certainly don't want to panic and buy a Dobbie do we? Are you really thinking of jacking in your season tickets 5 games in? If you are then you are not a real supporter, certainly not one who supported the team in the Withdean years
Actually I have supported the club for forty years at the Goldstone, Gillingham and Withdean as well as the Amex, so am entitled to my opinion, yes we have a stronger squad than a year ago probably, but id just like a bit more ambition to get us into the play offs. Its obvious to all that we need one possibly two strikers. Hopefully if we can find at least one he will be fit and not a stone and a half overweight (Agestein). I would also like Mr Barber to think about the average paying customer who keeps him in a job, by paying his wages. I know we have to stick to FFP, but how about an exciting signing or two, perhaps from spain or somewhere else and not freebies and loans from Div 1 !
[quote][p][bold]OldGull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: These derisory bids from Palace, may only be the start, with Mr Barbers eyes lighting up with pound signs, I expect further bids and accepted ones at that as clearly Mr Tony Blooms stated ambition is not matched by Barber, especially as he gets commision on his salary based on how much money he makes for the club. We heard all sorts of rubbish about four of five players coming in and so far all we have is freebies and loans and the possibility of losing the two best players at the club. Keep taking the corporate money Barber and stuff the fans, If they go so do my four season tickets !!! Ambition what ambition ?[/p][/quote]They will not go without TB's approval. You can bang on about Barber, but he is doing his job with TB's approval. We have moved from a lower league 1 side to just missing out on the prem in 3 years. Look back 12 months, We have a stronger squad now than then. Ok so we could not keep Bridge which is a shame but he would not have fitted in to our wage structure We have lost Hammond, Dicker, Painter & Vicente (the latter never fit) and replaced them with Andrews, Agustien, Ward & Chicksen. Ince has been a revelation and is only 19 and there is also JFC and March on the fringe of the 1st team. Of course the 1 area of concern is a striker. There are few around in our price range. Who could we get in this country for 2 or 3 mill? Our best hope at this stage is to get a good loan player in for the season, which I still believe will happen once the prem clubs have completed business. We certainly don't want to panic and buy a Dobbie do we? Are you really thinking of jacking in your season tickets 5 games in? If you are then you are not a real supporter, certainly not one who supported the team in the Withdean years[/p][/quote]Actually I have supported the club for forty years at the Goldstone, Gillingham and Withdean as well as the Amex, so am entitled to my opinion, yes we have a stronger squad than a year ago probably, but id just like a bit more ambition to get us into the play offs. Its obvious to all that we need one possibly two strikers. Hopefully if we can find at least one he will be fit and not a stone and a half overweight (Agestein). I would also like Mr Barber to think about the average paying customer who keeps him in a job, by paying his wages. I know we have to stick to FFP, but how about an exciting signing or two, perhaps from spain or somewhere else and not freebies and loans from Div 1 ! Steveg1958
  • Score: -1

11:03am Mon 2 Sep 13

mikeygit says...

I have posted my thoughts on getting players in on the other Argus article--Transfer Day--the only slight disappointment I have is that Oscar was not able to attract --as yet--any quality players from overseas, who may be cheaper than those from UK?? We all want success--pointless being here otherwise---but not at any cost, the players the Club wants are obviously not available for many reasons, and I am confident the Club has been trying hard to get players in that Oscar wants---just not worked up to now, so Plan B is the Loan Window--we shall wait and see.
I have posted my thoughts on getting players in on the other Argus article--Transfer Day--the only slight disappointment I have is that Oscar was not able to attract --as yet--any quality players from overseas, who may be cheaper than those from UK?? We all want success--pointless being here otherwise---but not at any cost, the players the Club wants are obviously not available for many reasons, and I am confident the Club has been trying hard to get players in that Oscar wants---just not worked up to now, so Plan B is the Loan Window--we shall wait and see. mikeygit
  • Score: 3

11:31am Mon 2 Sep 13

Hovite says...

dave from bexill wrote:
Hi Neville and others. Doe that response from the club help settle you ?
I doubt it, judging by your thumbs down score ;o)
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Hi Neville and others. Doe that response from the club help settle you ?[/p][/quote]I doubt it, judging by your thumbs down score ;o) Hovite
  • Score: -10

12:11pm Mon 2 Sep 13

Gee Jay says...

We have what we have, Tony Bloom is in charge and I think we can rest assured that the club is in good hands.
Looks as though we will have a player or two on loan, but maybe nothing today.
If we can get our injured players fit again over the next few weeks we will still have a good squad.
Forest are spending the owner's money, not money that the club makes, so if it all goes t-ts up for them this season they will be in deep doo doo.
Remember, Leicester were favorites to get promoted last season, they missed out, and are now having to move players out.
We have what we have, Tony Bloom is in charge and I think we can rest assured that the club is in good hands. Looks as though we will have a player or two on loan, but maybe nothing today. If we can get our injured players fit again over the next few weeks we will still have a good squad. Forest are spending the owner's money, not money that the club makes, so if it all goes t-ts up for them this season they will be in deep doo doo. Remember, Leicester were favorites to get promoted last season, they missed out, and are now having to move players out. Gee Jay
  • Score: 1

12:13pm Mon 2 Sep 13

falmer seagull says...

If we do not wish to let players go, or bring players in, just unplug the phone, fax and turn off computer. Simples!
If we do not wish to let players go, or bring players in, just unplug the phone, fax and turn off computer. Simples! falmer seagull
  • Score: 4

12:19pm Mon 2 Sep 13

Joel'sGrandad says...

Would be disappointed and surprised if we lost any of our star men today.
Got a feeling we may just get in a surprise acquisition to appease all you worriers out there.
Stay cool and enjoy the ride.UTA.
Would be disappointed and surprised if we lost any of our star men today. Got a feeling we may just get in a surprise acquisition to appease all you worriers out there. Stay cool and enjoy the ride.UTA. Joel'sGrandad
  • Score: 0

12:25pm Mon 2 Sep 13

mickygullhove says...

I think poyet was dead right, we are the poor relations of the championship we seem to like money in the bank instead of good players on the park. Why not sell ulloa and bridcutt and swell the bank account. Maybe we could sign some more players that nobody wants, so that we could save more money.Worst thing we ever did was to get rid of poyet who at least used to fight for money to buy good players. O G is just there to be troden on by B,B,and B. We are now a bottom half club. Look at other clubs in the championship, Shef wed, Notts forest for instance trying to improve all the time, while we sit in our boardroom counting all our transfer money,and barber trying to convince us that we have no need to get more players.I feel sorry fo the supporters who payed for season tickets this year.
I think poyet was dead right, we are the poor relations of the championship we seem to like money in the bank instead of good players on the park. Why not sell ulloa and bridcutt and swell the bank account. Maybe we could sign some more players that nobody wants, so that we could save more money.Worst thing we ever did was to get rid of poyet who at least used to fight for money to buy good players. O G is just there to be troden on by B,B,and B. We are now a bottom half club. Look at other clubs in the championship, Shef wed, Notts forest for instance trying to improve all the time, while we sit in our boardroom counting all our transfer money,and barber trying to convince us that we have no need to get more players.I feel sorry fo the supporters who payed for season tickets this year. mickygullhove
  • Score: -16

12:34pm Mon 2 Sep 13

ballantrrae says...

Hovite wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Hi Neville and others. Doe that response from the club help settle you ?
I doubt it, judging by your thumbs down score ;o)
Dave from Bexhill the club really appear to have put out quite a lot of info re potential transfer activity and I for one appreciate being informed of what the club is doing and intending to do.
Firstly Oscar has said there is hardly any chance of any incoming activity today. Fair enough we understand the implications of FFP and the possibility that other posters have mentioned that Oscar might want to keep his options open for the January window by which time he will have a better handle on what is needed.
Secondly (from the Oscar cool thread) we have been told that the club may well bring in another striker on a maximum 93 day loan once the Loan Window reopens. I notice by the way that in today's Score in the Argus that Andy Naylor in his main analysis report of the Millwall match comments that the Albion look threadbare resource wise in the striker Department - something a number of posters have been saying over the last few days.
Thirdly we have learnt that if Ulloa does have a buy out clause it must be for more than £5 million otherwise BHA would not have been able to reject the Palace bid for him (in any event Ulloa might not have wanted to leave). The bid for Bridcutt seems way below par, a figure of twice the amount bid ie at least £3.5 million might be a reasonable starting point.
I was pleased to hear we had knocked back the Palace bids since it underlines the club's ambition to build a team that might be capable of getting promoted.
So yes Dave all of the above info does help one to remain patient. Having said that I would not object to being surprised and hearing later today that we have acquired somebody but I should stress I am not expecting that to happen.
Finally I see that the Argus is running a story saying that Vicente might be interested in returning. If it were a truly fit Vicente then that would might present an intriguing possibility as there is no doubting his ability when in physical shape.
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Hi Neville and others. Doe that response from the club help settle you ?[/p][/quote]I doubt it, judging by your thumbs down score ;o)[/p][/quote]Dave from Bexhill the club really appear to have put out quite a lot of info re potential transfer activity and I for one appreciate being informed of what the club is doing and intending to do. Firstly Oscar has said there is hardly any chance of any incoming activity today. Fair enough we understand the implications of FFP and the possibility that other posters have mentioned that Oscar might want to keep his options open for the January window by which time he will have a better handle on what is needed. Secondly (from the Oscar cool thread) we have been told that the club may well bring in another striker on a maximum 93 day loan once the Loan Window reopens. I notice by the way that in today's Score in the Argus that Andy Naylor in his main analysis report of the Millwall match comments that the Albion look threadbare resource wise in the striker Department - something a number of posters have been saying over the last few days. Thirdly we have learnt that if Ulloa does have a buy out clause it must be for more than £5 million otherwise BHA would not have been able to reject the Palace bid for him (in any event Ulloa might not have wanted to leave). The bid for Bridcutt seems way below par, a figure of twice the amount bid ie at least £3.5 million might be a reasonable starting point. I was pleased to hear we had knocked back the Palace bids since it underlines the club's ambition to build a team that might be capable of getting promoted. So yes Dave all of the above info does help one to remain patient. Having said that I would not object to being surprised and hearing later today that we have acquired somebody but I should stress I am not expecting that to happen. Finally I see that the Argus is running a story saying that Vicente might be interested in returning. If it were a truly fit Vicente then that would might present an intriguing possibility as there is no doubting his ability when in physical shape. ballantrrae
  • Score: 7

12:59pm Mon 2 Sep 13

Hovite says...

Your statement below, is in fact itself is a contradiction? How can you know what an if must be?

"We have learnt that if Ulloa does have a buy out clause it must be for more than £5 million?"
Your statement below, is in fact itself is a contradiction? How can you know what an if must be? "We have learnt that if Ulloa does have a buy out clause it must be for more than £5 million?" Hovite
  • Score: -10

1:09pm Mon 2 Sep 13

VegasSeagull says...

'If,' Ulloa has a 5 million release clause in his contract we can turn it down, we can demand more, but we can't stop Ulloa from talking to Palace. The important thing is not how much Palace may offer, but did Ulloa take a short road trip. I think we can hold Palace off but I fear that their offer might spark interest from other prem clubs who might have been tracking him.
Hull, Fulham, Westham or Stoke, if anyone of these clubs have neen keeping tabs on Ulloa, they might try their luck with an offer above 6 million. What a club rejects might point to what they might accept.
I am not so sure that this window is over as far as Ulloa is concerned, the answer as to whether he goes or stays might not lie with Palace.

As for the offer of 1.75 million for Bridders, well it just doesn't warrant a comment does it.
'If,' Ulloa has a 5 million release clause in his contract we can turn it down, we can demand more, but we can't stop Ulloa from talking to Palace. The important thing is not how much Palace may offer, but did Ulloa take a short road trip. I think we can hold Palace off but I fear that their offer might spark interest from other prem clubs who might have been tracking him. Hull, Fulham, Westham or Stoke, if anyone of these clubs have neen keeping tabs on Ulloa, they might try their luck with an offer above 6 million. What a club rejects might point to what they might accept. I am not so sure that this window is over as far as Ulloa is concerned, the answer as to whether he goes or stays might not lie with Palace. As for the offer of 1.75 million for Bridders, well it just doesn't warrant a comment does it. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -9

1:18pm Mon 2 Sep 13

Hovite says...

Live U21, QPR v Brighton;

http://www.seagulls.
co.uk/news/article/l
ive-qpr-u-21s-v-albi
on-u21s-1029629.aspx
Live U21, QPR v Brighton; http://www.seagulls. co.uk/news/article/l ive-qpr-u-21s-v-albi on-u21s-1029629.aspx Hovite
  • Score: -7

1:54pm Mon 2 Sep 13

CantUseNSCatWork says...

If, and I think it's a massive if, the club do sell Bridcutt and Ulloa to Palace, I forsee a massive fan backlash and a significant drop in attendance figures.
If, and I think it's a massive if, the club do sell Bridcutt and Ulloa to Palace, I forsee a massive fan backlash and a significant drop in attendance figures. CantUseNSCatWork
  • Score: 7

1:54pm Mon 2 Sep 13

hey mongo says...

a ticket for saturdays game was £42 as it was considered a Category A match...im sorry but thats an absolute joke we were playing pony millwall...what was categroy A about it?? Arsenal or Man United s category A...Time we signed some category A players and made a proper push for the premier league...
a ticket for saturdays game was £42 as it was considered a Category A match...im sorry but thats an absolute joke we were playing pony millwall...what was categroy A about it?? Arsenal or Man United s category A...Time we signed some category A players and made a proper push for the premier league... hey mongo
  • Score: 2

2:08pm Mon 2 Sep 13

Albion23 says...

Dont worry Ulloa is not going anywhere.Financialy alone we couldnt replace him,as a player who,d want too.T.B. would not let that occur.Bridders if the moneys right it possible he might go. My fingers like every one are firmly crossed that he remains in an Albion Shirt.
Dont worry Ulloa is not going anywhere.Financialy alone we couldnt replace him,as a player who,d want too.T.B. would not let that occur.Bridders if the moneys right it possible he might go. My fingers like every one are firmly crossed that he remains in an Albion Shirt. Albion23
  • Score: 3

2:24pm Mon 2 Sep 13

Steveg1958 says...

If we do hang on to Ulloa and Bridcut and possibly bring back Vicente and one other class striker I will be happy that the club are serious about getting into the play offs, sadly if that scenario doesnt happen then we will all know that we have to settle for mid table or lower and lump it. At least the "numbers" that Mr Barber mentioned in Saturday's programme will be on the plus side. Unfortunately I pay my season tickets to be entertained by quality players not poor ones. As for the club telling us what's happening, I am afraid that ain't happening anytime soon. I fear another Div 1 loan signing coming along.
If we do hang on to Ulloa and Bridcut and possibly bring back Vicente and one other class striker I will be happy that the club are serious about getting into the play offs, sadly if that scenario doesnt happen then we will all know that we have to settle for mid table or lower and lump it. At least the "numbers" that Mr Barber mentioned in Saturday's programme will be on the plus side. Unfortunately I pay my season tickets to be entertained by quality players not poor ones. As for the club telling us what's happening, I am afraid that ain't happening anytime soon. I fear another Div 1 loan signing coming along. Steveg1958
  • Score: 0

2:56pm Mon 2 Sep 13

VegasSeagull says...

Steveg1958 wrote:
If we do hang on to Ulloa and Bridcut and possibly bring back Vicente and one other class striker I will be happy that the club are serious about getting into the play offs, sadly if that scenario doesnt happen then we will all know that we have to settle for mid table or lower and lump it. At least the "numbers" that Mr Barber mentioned in Saturday's programme will be on the plus side. Unfortunately I pay my season tickets to be entertained by quality players not poor ones. As for the club telling us what's happening, I am afraid that ain't happening anytime soon. I fear another Div 1 loan signing coming along.
So you are discounting any action during the loan window. Vicente can be signed at any time, he is a free agent. One or more loan strikers, or any position, could easily arrive in the loan window. I think that you ave made your thoughts on the ambitions of the club a week or two too early.
[quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: If we do hang on to Ulloa and Bridcut and possibly bring back Vicente and one other class striker I will be happy that the club are serious about getting into the play offs, sadly if that scenario doesnt happen then we will all know that we have to settle for mid table or lower and lump it. At least the "numbers" that Mr Barber mentioned in Saturday's programme will be on the plus side. Unfortunately I pay my season tickets to be entertained by quality players not poor ones. As for the club telling us what's happening, I am afraid that ain't happening anytime soon. I fear another Div 1 loan signing coming along.[/p][/quote]So you are discounting any action during the loan window. Vicente can be signed at any time, he is a free agent. One or more loan strikers, or any position, could easily arrive in the loan window. I think that you ave made your thoughts on the ambitions of the club a week or two too early. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -8

2:59pm Mon 2 Sep 13

lightyearsahead says...

Maybe your 'free' ground isn't free afterall. Maybe the benefactor who built it now wants money for it afterall. There's no such thing as a free lunch so ways must be found to pay for that lunch. If these players were any good they wouldn't be knocking about in the championship, south American= attitude problem. No thanks, if we're gonna spend it'll be on proven quality, don't flatter yourselves that anyone covets your players, having played for you the very least they will suffer from is a lack of ambition.
Maybe your 'free' ground isn't free afterall. Maybe the benefactor who built it now wants money for it afterall. There's no such thing as a free lunch so ways must be found to pay for that lunch. If these players were any good they wouldn't be knocking about in the championship, south American= attitude problem. No thanks, if we're gonna spend it'll be on proven quality, don't flatter yourselves that anyone covets your players, having played for you the very least they will suffer from is a lack of ambition. lightyearsahead
  • Score: -9

3:13pm Mon 2 Sep 13

Albion23 says...

lightyearsahead wrote:
Maybe your 'free' ground isn't free afterall. Maybe the benefactor who built it now wants money for it afterall. There's no such thing as a free lunch so ways must be found to pay for that lunch. If these players were any good they wouldn't be knocking about in the championship, south American= attitude problem. No thanks, if we're gonna spend it'll be on proven quality, don't flatter yourselves that anyone covets your players, having played for you the very least they will suffer from is a lack of ambition.
For some one Light years ahead. Afraid you have very backward thinking.Viva la Spania. U.T.A.
[quote][p][bold]lightyearsahead[/bold] wrote: Maybe your 'free' ground isn't free afterall. Maybe the benefactor who built it now wants money for it afterall. There's no such thing as a free lunch so ways must be found to pay for that lunch. If these players were any good they wouldn't be knocking about in the championship, south American= attitude problem. No thanks, if we're gonna spend it'll be on proven quality, don't flatter yourselves that anyone covets your players, having played for you the very least they will suffer from is a lack of ambition.[/p][/quote]For some one Light years ahead. Afraid you have very backward thinking.Viva la Spania. U.T.A. Albion23
  • Score: 2

3:21pm Mon 2 Sep 13

Steveg1958 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
Steveg1958 wrote: If we do hang on to Ulloa and Bridcut and possibly bring back Vicente and one other class striker I will be happy that the club are serious about getting into the play offs, sadly if that scenario doesnt happen then we will all know that we have to settle for mid table or lower and lump it. At least the "numbers" that Mr Barber mentioned in Saturday's programme will be on the plus side. Unfortunately I pay my season tickets to be entertained by quality players not poor ones. As for the club telling us what's happening, I am afraid that ain't happening anytime soon. I fear another Div 1 loan signing coming along.
So you are discounting any action during the loan window. Vicente can be signed at any time, he is a free agent. One or more loan strikers, or any position, could easily arrive in the loan window. I think that you ave made your thoughts on the ambitions of the club a week or two too early.
I think I said Vegas " A loan signing" didnt I ??? Also yes to Vicente at any time, plus a fitness course for Agustein.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: If we do hang on to Ulloa and Bridcut and possibly bring back Vicente and one other class striker I will be happy that the club are serious about getting into the play offs, sadly if that scenario doesnt happen then we will all know that we have to settle for mid table or lower and lump it. At least the "numbers" that Mr Barber mentioned in Saturday's programme will be on the plus side. Unfortunately I pay my season tickets to be entertained by quality players not poor ones. As for the club telling us what's happening, I am afraid that ain't happening anytime soon. I fear another Div 1 loan signing coming along.[/p][/quote]So you are discounting any action during the loan window. Vicente can be signed at any time, he is a free agent. One or more loan strikers, or any position, could easily arrive in the loan window. I think that you ave made your thoughts on the ambitions of the club a week or two too early.[/p][/quote]I think I said Vegas " A loan signing" didnt I ??? Also yes to Vicente at any time, plus a fitness course for Agustein. Steveg1958
  • Score: 4

3:46pm Mon 2 Sep 13

dave from bexill says...

ballantrrae wrote:
Hovite wrote:
dave from bexill wrote:
Hi Neville and others. Doe that response from the club help settle you ?
I doubt it, judging by your thumbs down score ;o)
Dave from Bexhill the club really appear to have put out quite a lot of info re potential transfer activity and I for one appreciate being informed of what the club is doing and intending to do.
Firstly Oscar has said there is hardly any chance of any incoming activity today. Fair enough we understand the implications of FFP and the possibility that other posters have mentioned that Oscar might want to keep his options open for the January window by which time he will have a better handle on what is needed.
Secondly (from the Oscar cool thread) we have been told that the club may well bring in another striker on a maximum 93 day loan once the Loan Window reopens. I notice by the way that in today's Score in the Argus that Andy Naylor in his main analysis report of the Millwall match comments that the Albion look threadbare resource wise in the striker Department - something a number of posters have been saying over the last few days.
Thirdly we have learnt that if Ulloa does have a buy out clause it must be for more than £5 million otherwise BHA would not have been able to reject the Palace bid for him (in any event Ulloa might not have wanted to leave). The bid for Bridcutt seems way below par, a figure of twice the amount bid ie at least £3.5 million might be a reasonable starting point.
I was pleased to hear we had knocked back the Palace bids since it underlines the club's ambition to build a team that might be capable of getting promoted.
So yes Dave all of the above info does help one to remain patient. Having said that I would not object to being surprised and hearing later today that we have acquired somebody but I should stress I am not expecting that to happen.
Finally I see that the Argus is running a story saying that Vicente might be interested in returning. If it were a truly fit Vicente then that would might present an intriguing possibility as there is no doubting his ability when in physical shape.
Good and fair points as usual ballantrrae., I'd love to see 'the man from Spain back', but can't see it.
[quote][p][bold]ballantrrae[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote: Hi Neville and others. Doe that response from the club help settle you ?[/p][/quote]I doubt it, judging by your thumbs down score ;o)[/p][/quote]Dave from Bexhill the club really appear to have put out quite a lot of info re potential transfer activity and I for one appreciate being informed of what the club is doing and intending to do. Firstly Oscar has said there is hardly any chance of any incoming activity today. Fair enough we understand the implications of FFP and the possibility that other posters have mentioned that Oscar might want to keep his options open for the January window by which time he will have a better handle on what is needed. Secondly (from the Oscar cool thread) we have been told that the club may well bring in another striker on a maximum 93 day loan once the Loan Window reopens. I notice by the way that in today's Score in the Argus that Andy Naylor in his main analysis report of the Millwall match comments that the Albion look threadbare resource wise in the striker Department - something a number of posters have been saying over the last few days. Thirdly we have learnt that if Ulloa does have a buy out clause it must be for more than £5 million otherwise BHA would not have been able to reject the Palace bid for him (in any event Ulloa might not have wanted to leave). The bid for Bridcutt seems way below par, a figure of twice the amount bid ie at least £3.5 million might be a reasonable starting point. I was pleased to hear we had knocked back the Palace bids since it underlines the club's ambition to build a team that might be capable of getting promoted. So yes Dave all of the above info does help one to remain patient. Having said that I would not object to being surprised and hearing later today that we have acquired somebody but I should stress I am not expecting that to happen. Finally I see that the Argus is running a story saying that Vicente might be interested in returning. If it were a truly fit Vicente then that would might present an intriguing possibility as there is no doubting his ability when in physical shape.[/p][/quote]Good and fair points as usual ballantrrae., I'd love to see 'the man from Spain back', but can't see it. dave from bexill
  • Score: 3

4:13pm Mon 2 Sep 13

VegasSeagull says...

Steveg1958 wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
Steveg1958 wrote: If we do hang on to Ulloa and Bridcut and possibly bring back Vicente and one other class striker I will be happy that the club are serious about getting into the play offs, sadly if that scenario doesnt happen then we will all know that we have to settle for mid table or lower and lump it. At least the "numbers" that Mr Barber mentioned in Saturday's programme will be on the plus side. Unfortunately I pay my season tickets to be entertained by quality players not poor ones. As for the club telling us what's happening, I am afraid that ain't happening anytime soon. I fear another Div 1 loan signing coming along.
So you are discounting any action during the loan window. Vicente can be signed at any time, he is a free agent. One or more loan strikers, or any position, could easily arrive in the loan window. I think that you ave made your thoughts on the ambitions of the club a week or two too early.
I think I said Vegas " A loan signing" didnt I ??? Also yes to Vicente at any time, plus a fitness course for Agustein.
well yes you did say a loan signing, the loan you, 'fear,' from div one.
[quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Steveg1958[/bold] wrote: If we do hang on to Ulloa and Bridcut and possibly bring back Vicente and one other class striker I will be happy that the club are serious about getting into the play offs, sadly if that scenario doesnt happen then we will all know that we have to settle for mid table or lower and lump it. At least the "numbers" that Mr Barber mentioned in Saturday's programme will be on the plus side. Unfortunately I pay my season tickets to be entertained by quality players not poor ones. As for the club telling us what's happening, I am afraid that ain't happening anytime soon. I fear another Div 1 loan signing coming along.[/p][/quote]So you are discounting any action during the loan window. Vicente can be signed at any time, he is a free agent. One or more loan strikers, or any position, could easily arrive in the loan window. I think that you ave made your thoughts on the ambitions of the club a week or two too early.[/p][/quote]I think I said Vegas " A loan signing" didnt I ??? Also yes to Vicente at any time, plus a fitness course for Agustein.[/p][/quote]well yes you did say a loan signing, the loan you, 'fear,' from div one. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -9

4:45pm Mon 2 Sep 13

Captain Haddock says...

mickygullhove wrote:
I think poyet was dead right, we are the poor relations of the championship we seem to like money in the bank instead of good players on the park. Why not sell ulloa and bridcutt and swell the bank account. Maybe we could sign some more players that nobody wants, so that we could save more money.Worst thing we ever did was to get rid of poyet who at least used to fight for money to buy good players. O G is just there to be troden on by B,B,and B. We are now a bottom half club. Look at other clubs in the championship, Shef wed, Notts forest for instance trying to improve all the time, while we sit in our boardroom counting all our transfer money,and barber trying to convince us that we have no need to get more players.I feel sorry fo the supporters who payed for season tickets this year.
Couldn't disagree more. The transfer money we count is the change from money spent. Look at our transfer history these past three years.

I'm happy and confident. Move on Eeyore!
[quote][p][bold]mickygullhove[/bold] wrote: I think poyet was dead right, we are the poor relations of the championship we seem to like money in the bank instead of good players on the park. Why not sell ulloa and bridcutt and swell the bank account. Maybe we could sign some more players that nobody wants, so that we could save more money.Worst thing we ever did was to get rid of poyet who at least used to fight for money to buy good players. O G is just there to be troden on by B,B,and B. We are now a bottom half club. Look at other clubs in the championship, Shef wed, Notts forest for instance trying to improve all the time, while we sit in our boardroom counting all our transfer money,and barber trying to convince us that we have no need to get more players.I feel sorry fo the supporters who payed for season tickets this year.[/p][/quote]Couldn't disagree more. The transfer money we count is the change from money spent. Look at our transfer history these past three years. I'm happy and confident. Move on Eeyore! Captain Haddock
  • Score: -4

4:51pm Mon 2 Sep 13

Captain Haddock says...

lightyearsahead wrote:
Maybe your 'free' ground isn't free afterall. Maybe the benefactor who built it now wants money for it afterall. There's no such thing as a free lunch so ways must be found to pay for that lunch. If these players were any good they wouldn't be knocking about in the championship, south American= attitude problem. No thanks, if we're gonna spend it'll be on proven quality, don't flatter yourselves that anyone covets your players, having played for you the very least they will suffer from is a lack of ambition.
You are a tiresome (and hugely inaccurate) bore.
[quote][p][bold]lightyearsahead[/bold] wrote: Maybe your 'free' ground isn't free afterall. Maybe the benefactor who built it now wants money for it afterall. There's no such thing as a free lunch so ways must be found to pay for that lunch. If these players were any good they wouldn't be knocking about in the championship, south American= attitude problem. No thanks, if we're gonna spend it'll be on proven quality, don't flatter yourselves that anyone covets your players, having played for you the very least they will suffer from is a lack of ambition.[/p][/quote]You are a tiresome (and hugely inaccurate) bore. Captain Haddock
  • Score: -5

5:02pm Mon 2 Sep 13

Falmer Wizard says...

It is becoming obvious that our chairman has reached his financial limit and our next signing should be a new director to assist Tony and bring more money into the club, in the meantime we should be able to hold a mid-table position if we hold on to our existing players.
It is becoming obvious that our chairman has reached his financial limit and our next signing should be a new director to assist Tony and bring more money into the club, in the meantime we should be able to hold a mid-table position if we hold on to our existing players. Falmer Wizard
  • Score: 0

5:08pm Mon 2 Sep 13

ballantrrae says...

Hovite wrote:
Your statement below, is in fact itself is a contradiction? How can you know what an if must be?

"We have learnt that if Ulloa does have a buy out clause it must be for more than £5 million?"
Hovite to continue our debate. I did not say that I knew the buy out clause was, only that by deduction, it must be for more'than £5 million'.
If he has a buy out clause (and he may not have) and if it is for anything up to £5 million then, as Vegas points out in his posting, the Palace bid would have 'triggered' the buy out clause and given Palace the potential right to talk to Ulloa. I am not saying that he would have been interested in going.
However since we appear to have simply rejected the offer I do not think it is unreasonable to surmise that the Palace offer was below any buy out clause figure, always assuming there is one.
Moving on I am sure you are more up to speed on these matters than I am as your posts generally demonstrate. Therefore I am sure you will correct me if my reasoning is at fault.
Incidently I was delighted that we turned Palace down and reassured that the club is wanting to hold on to its main playing assets. Ulloa has been our star player this season and if there is a buy out clause in his contract I am reasonably confident the club would have set any buy out figure much higher than the £5 million Palace are reported to have bid - at least I trust they have.
Hovite one question. Would you agree that Oscar appears to be a calm presence who seems to be able to handle whatever the situation is and simply gets on with the job as best he can ?
[quote][p][bold]Hovite[/bold] wrote: Your statement below, is in fact itself is a contradiction? How can you know what an if must be? "We have learnt that if Ulloa does have a buy out clause it must be for more than £5 million?"[/p][/quote]Hovite to continue our debate. I did not say that I knew the buy out clause was, only that by deduction, it must be for more'than £5 million'. If he has a buy out clause (and he may not have) and if it is for anything up to £5 million then, as Vegas points out in his posting, the Palace bid would have 'triggered' the buy out clause and given Palace the potential right to talk to Ulloa. I am not saying that he would have been interested in going. However since we appear to have simply rejected the offer I do not think it is unreasonable to surmise that the Palace offer was below any buy out clause figure, always assuming there is one. Moving on I am sure you are more up to speed on these matters than I am as your posts generally demonstrate. Therefore I am sure you will correct me if my reasoning is at fault. Incidently I was delighted that we turned Palace down and reassured that the club is wanting to hold on to its main playing assets. Ulloa has been our star player this season and if there is a buy out clause in his contract I am reasonably confident the club would have set any buy out figure much higher than the £5 million Palace are reported to have bid - at least I trust they have. Hovite one question. Would you agree that Oscar appears to be a calm presence who seems to be able to handle whatever the situation is and simply gets on with the job as best he can ? ballantrrae
  • Score: 3

5:12pm Mon 2 Sep 13

lightyearsahead says...

Captain Haddock wrote:
lightyearsahead wrote: Maybe your 'free' ground isn't free afterall. Maybe the benefactor who built it now wants money for it afterall. There's no such thing as a free lunch so ways must be found to pay for that lunch. If these players were any good they wouldn't be knocking about in the championship, south American= attitude problem. No thanks, if we're gonna spend it'll be on proven quality, don't flatter yourselves that anyone covets your players, having played for you the very least they will suffer from is a lack of ambition.
You are a tiresome (and hugely inaccurate) bore.
You may well find the facts boring, but sooner or later you'll have to acknowledge them I'm afraid.
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lightyearsahead[/bold] wrote: Maybe your 'free' ground isn't free afterall. Maybe the benefactor who built it now wants money for it afterall. There's no such thing as a free lunch so ways must be found to pay for that lunch. If these players were any good they wouldn't be knocking about in the championship, south American= attitude problem. No thanks, if we're gonna spend it'll be on proven quality, don't flatter yourselves that anyone covets your players, having played for you the very least they will suffer from is a lack of ambition.[/p][/quote]You are a tiresome (and hugely inaccurate) bore.[/p][/quote]You may well find the facts boring, but sooner or later you'll have to acknowledge them I'm afraid. lightyearsahead
  • Score: 0

5:26pm Mon 2 Sep 13

Hovite says...

There is no debate when a someones conclusion is based on if's and hypotheticals of a virtual £5m stamp which he may or may not have anyway, but more than likely hasn't, and more likely just a sell on fee as I understood on his signing.

I agree that we couldn't have got a better manager than Oscar in.
There is no debate when a someones conclusion is based on if's and hypotheticals of a virtual £5m stamp which he may or may not have anyway, but more than likely hasn't, and more likely just a sell on fee as I understood on his signing. I agree that we couldn't have got a better manager than Oscar in. Hovite
  • Score: -4

5:31pm Mon 2 Sep 13

VegasSeagull says...

I get the feeling from the players signed by Palace, and those that they are trying to sign, is a feeble attempt to stay in the prem, and an insurance for next year back in the champ div.

Right now both Ulloa and Bridcutt are two of the hot properties in our division, would either of them cut in the prem, we don't know, but if Palace were to be relegated this year having signed them both, they might find it hard to find a prem club to sign them again. The result would be that Palace would have two top class champ div players ready for their return to our level. The same could be said of one or two other signings they have made. It's almost as though he is buying for the season after relegation, or at least trying to with our lads.
If/when they do get relegated this year their more expensive players will get snapped up but Ulloa and Bridders would be slightly tarnished goods, first year in the prem and they get relegated.
I get the feeling from the players signed by Palace, and those that they are trying to sign, is a feeble attempt to stay in the prem, and an insurance for next year back in the champ div. Right now both Ulloa and Bridcutt are two of the hot properties in our division, would either of them cut in the prem, we don't know, but if Palace were to be relegated this year having signed them both, they might find it hard to find a prem club to sign them again. The result would be that Palace would have two top class champ div players ready for their return to our level. The same could be said of one or two other signings they have made. It's almost as though he is buying for the season after relegation, or at least trying to with our lads. If/when they do get relegated this year their more expensive players will get snapped up but Ulloa and Bridders would be slightly tarnished goods, first year in the prem and they get relegated. VegasSeagull
  • Score: -6

7:16pm Mon 2 Sep 13

OldGull says...

lightyearsahead wrote:
Maybe your 'free' ground isn't free afterall. Maybe the benefactor who built it now wants money for it afterall. There's no such thing as a free lunch so ways must be found to pay for that lunch. If these players were any good they wouldn't be knocking about in the championship, south American= attitude problem. No thanks, if we're gonna spend it'll be on proven quality, don't flatter yourselves that anyone covets your players, having played for you the very least they will suffer from is a lack of ambition.
you paid for Dobbie!
[quote][p][bold]lightyearsahead[/bold] wrote: Maybe your 'free' ground isn't free afterall. Maybe the benefactor who built it now wants money for it afterall. There's no such thing as a free lunch so ways must be found to pay for that lunch. If these players were any good they wouldn't be knocking about in the championship, south American= attitude problem. No thanks, if we're gonna spend it'll be on proven quality, don't flatter yourselves that anyone covets your players, having played for you the very least they will suffer from is a lack of ambition.[/p][/quote]you paid for Dobbie! OldGull
  • Score: 4

8:23pm Mon 2 Sep 13

raymondo999 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I get the feeling from the players signed by Palace, and those that they are trying to sign, is a feeble attempt to stay in the prem, and an insurance for next year back in the champ div.

Right now both Ulloa and Bridcutt are two of the hot properties in our division, would either of them cut in the prem, we don't know, but if Palace were to be relegated this year having signed them both, they might find it hard to find a prem club to sign them again. The result would be that Palace would have two top class champ div players ready for their return to our level. The same could be said of one or two other signings they have made. It's almost as though he is buying for the season after relegation, or at least trying to with our lads.
If/when they do get relegated this year their more expensive players will get snapped up but Ulloa and Bridders would be slightly tarnished goods, first year in the prem and they get relegated.
Don't over complicate and overanalyse. Palace are in the prem but will find it difficult to survive. They clearly don't have super bucks to spend so are looking to bolster their squad with cut price buys, Liam and Leo would be good cut price buys,. Personally I think Liam has the class and composure to make a prem player, Leo has yet to prove himself. Remember Wardie set div3 and to a lesser extent div2 on fire but never cut it in. Div1 and Leo ain't no Wardie.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I get the feeling from the players signed by Palace, and those that they are trying to sign, is a feeble attempt to stay in the prem, and an insurance for next year back in the champ div. Right now both Ulloa and Bridcutt are two of the hot properties in our division, would either of them cut in the prem, we don't know, but if Palace were to be relegated this year having signed them both, they might find it hard to find a prem club to sign them again. The result would be that Palace would have two top class champ div players ready for their return to our level. The same could be said of one or two other signings they have made. It's almost as though he is buying for the season after relegation, or at least trying to with our lads. If/when they do get relegated this year their more expensive players will get snapped up but Ulloa and Bridders would be slightly tarnished goods, first year in the prem and they get relegated.[/p][/quote]Don't over complicate and overanalyse. Palace are in the prem but will find it difficult to survive. They clearly don't have super bucks to spend so are looking to bolster their squad with cut price buys, Liam and Leo would be good cut price buys,. Personally I think Liam has the class and composure to make a prem player, Leo has yet to prove himself. Remember Wardie set div3 and to a lesser extent div2 on fire but never cut it in. Div1 and Leo ain't no Wardie. raymondo999
  • Score: 0

12:00am Tue 3 Sep 13

Hoarder12345444 says...

Falmer Wizard wrote:
It is becoming obvious that our chairman has reached his financial limit and our next signing should be a new director to assist Tony and bring more money into the club, in the meantime we should be able to hold a mid-table position if we hold on to our existing players.
You need some more magic
[quote][p][bold]Falmer Wizard[/bold] wrote: It is becoming obvious that our chairman has reached his financial limit and our next signing should be a new director to assist Tony and bring more money into the club, in the meantime we should be able to hold a mid-table position if we hold on to our existing players.[/p][/quote]You need some more magic Hoarder12345444
  • Score: 0

10:38am Tue 3 Sep 13

Captain Haddock says...

lightyearsahead wrote:
Captain Haddock wrote:
lightyearsahead wrote: Maybe your 'free' ground isn't free afterall. Maybe the benefactor who built it now wants money for it afterall. There's no such thing as a free lunch so ways must be found to pay for that lunch. If these players were any good they wouldn't be knocking about in the championship, south American= attitude problem. No thanks, if we're gonna spend it'll be on proven quality, don't flatter yourselves that anyone covets your players, having played for you the very least they will suffer from is a lack of ambition.
You are a tiresome (and hugely inaccurate) bore.
You may well find the facts boring, but sooner or later you'll have to acknowledge them I'm afraid.
Your speculation is not fact. It is the hopeful musings of a Jellyneck.
[quote][p][bold]lightyearsahead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lightyearsahead[/bold] wrote: Maybe your 'free' ground isn't free afterall. Maybe the benefactor who built it now wants money for it afterall. There's no such thing as a free lunch so ways must be found to pay for that lunch. If these players were any good they wouldn't be knocking about in the championship, south American= attitude problem. No thanks, if we're gonna spend it'll be on proven quality, don't flatter yourselves that anyone covets your players, having played for you the very least they will suffer from is a lack of ambition.[/p][/quote]You are a tiresome (and hugely inaccurate) bore.[/p][/quote]You may well find the facts boring, but sooner or later you'll have to acknowledge them I'm afraid.[/p][/quote]Your speculation is not fact. It is the hopeful musings of a Jellyneck. Captain Haddock
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