Seagulls won't rush Orlandi back

The Argus: Injury has restricted Andrea Orlandi to less than three hours of football this season Injury has restricted Andrea Orlandi to less than three hours of football this season

Albion will not be rushing Andrea Orlandi back into action – despite losing Craig Conway.

Orlandi has played less than three hours of football for the Seagulls this season, due to knee cartilage surgery.

The club are reluctant to push the versatile Spaniard too hard after two aborted comebacks. Conway’s loan spell from Cardiff ended with Saturday’s 1-0 win at Middlesbrough.

The Scotland international left-winger was signed after Orlandi’s return from knee damage sustained in the opening day defeat at Leeds lasted only 45 minutes as a substitute against Millwall at the end of August.

Orlandi, 29, has suffered swelling to the knee since his comeback from an operation as a second-half sub at Bournemouth last month.

Kazenga LuaLua, another victim of knee surgery, has come off the bench in the last two matches, a timely return to fitness which eases the situation with Orlandi.

Nathan Jones, Albion’s assistant head coach, told The Argus: “We are just playing it by ear. It’s not a luxury as such but we are in a decent position now where we haven’t got to rush him (Orlandi) and force him and put him in any jeopardy.

“We’ve got to treat him gently. He’s important to us. We’re really looking forward to getting him back but we want a fully fit Andrea, not one that is makeshift, just to get through, because that’s not good for him or for us either.”

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6:17am Tue 17 Dec 13

saraman says...

Very sensible decision as our injury worries have eased somewhat. Pretty much an unchanged starting eleven for Saturday (obvious omission Conway) for 3 achievable points.
Very sensible decision as our injury worries have eased somewhat. Pretty much an unchanged starting eleven for Saturday (obvious omission Conway) for 3 achievable points. saraman

6:49am Tue 17 Dec 13

Jonathan Mouette says...

I have the feeling an abundance of cotton wool is being used to cover up some underlying cracks - is that worth gambling on...? Time wiill tell. I sincerely hope so. Fingers crossed. UTA.
I have the feeling an abundance of cotton wool is being used to cover up some underlying cracks - is that worth gambling on...? Time wiill tell. I sincerely hope so. Fingers crossed. UTA. Jonathan Mouette

8:18am Tue 17 Dec 13

dave from bexill says...

Hope he's fit soon, arguably our most technically gifted player, especially when Spanish Dave isn't firing on all cylinders.
Hope he's fit soon, arguably our most technically gifted player, especially when Spanish Dave isn't firing on all cylinders. dave from bexill

8:35am Tue 17 Dec 13

mrgull says...

Of the players whose contracts are finishing shortly,who would you offer new contracts to should we gain promotion.How many of our current players would be comfortable playing in the premier div.
I believe in our current situation we should be looking to strengthen the squad with a view of premiership football not even contemplating selling our better players.The development squad is pushing through some excellent prospects,and this can only improve when the new training facility is up and running.Also the in the future the new lads coming through the system should be better value for money than the transfer market
Of the players whose contracts are finishing shortly,who would you offer new contracts to should we gain promotion.How many of our current players would be comfortable playing in the premier div. I believe in our current situation we should be looking to strengthen the squad with a view of premiership football not even contemplating selling our better players.The development squad is pushing through some excellent prospects,and this can only improve when the new training facility is up and running.Also the in the future the new lads coming through the system should be better value for money than the transfer market mrgull

8:50am Tue 17 Dec 13

Tonyuk175 says...

Any News On CMS???

I think were doing as well as we can so far from January onwards thats where the season starts!!! UTA

Just hope were all fit by then!!!
Any News On CMS??? I think were doing as well as we can so far from January onwards thats where the season starts!!! UTA Just hope were all fit by then!!! Tonyuk175

9:25am Tue 17 Dec 13

smegbuster says...

Tonyuk175 wrote:
Any News On CMS??? I think were doing as well as we can so far from January onwards thats where the season starts!!! UTA Just hope were all fit by then!!!
Listen to the Seagulls Podcast:
http://www.seagulls.
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[quote][p][bold]Tonyuk175[/bold] wrote: Any News On CMS??? I think were doing as well as we can so far from January onwards thats where the season starts!!! UTA Just hope were all fit by then!!![/p][/quote]Listen to the Seagulls Podcast: http://www.seagulls. co.uk/news/article/l atest-podcast-episod e-out-now-1234541.as px smegbuster

9:28am Tue 17 Dec 13

Andrea Orlandigasm says...

Even if he isnt match fit, Andrea is certainly fit as
Even if he isnt match fit, Andrea is certainly fit as Andrea Orlandigasm

9:41am Tue 17 Dec 13

Tonyuk175 says...

smegbuster wrote:
Tonyuk175 wrote: Any News On CMS??? I think were doing as well as we can so far from January onwards thats where the season starts!!! UTA Just hope were all fit by then!!!
Listen to the Seagulls Podcast: http://www.seagulls. co.uk/news/article/l atest-podcast-episod e-out-now-1234541.as px
cheers will do
[quote][p][bold]smegbuster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tonyuk175[/bold] wrote: Any News On CMS??? I think were doing as well as we can so far from January onwards thats where the season starts!!! UTA Just hope were all fit by then!!![/p][/quote]Listen to the Seagulls Podcast: http://www.seagulls. co.uk/news/article/l atest-podcast-episod e-out-now-1234541.as px[/p][/quote]cheers will do Tonyuk175

10:27am Tue 17 Dec 13

jeremy.short724@btinternet.com says...

The club's right not to rush Orlandi back. Likewise I would ease Ulloa back and have on the bench again on Saturday, because we cannot afford for him to break down again, if we are to sustain a promotion challenge
The club's right not to rush Orlandi back. Likewise I would ease Ulloa back and have on the bench again on Saturday, because we cannot afford for him to break down again, if we are to sustain a promotion challenge jeremy.short724@btinternet.com

10:27am Tue 17 Dec 13

kipper12 says...

we cant risk another injury to him and lose the 2million gus will offer us for him in january !!!! plus 3million for briddo ..... plus 4million for ulloa !!!

bang goes our playoff hopes !!!!!
we cant risk another injury to him and lose the 2million gus will offer us for him in january !!!! plus 3million for briddo ..... plus 4million for ulloa !!! bang goes our playoff hopes !!!!! kipper12

11:02am Tue 17 Dec 13

Joel'sGrandad says...

A very sensible approach and important for Andrea's welfare. It's not as if we're doing badly at the moment and are desperate.UTA
A very sensible approach and important for Andrea's welfare. It's not as if we're doing badly at the moment and are desperate.UTA Joel'sGrandad

12:41pm Tue 17 Dec 13

SMF20 says...

Thinking about all the injuries we and every other club suffer, I wonder if it might be time to change the way that player contracts are drawn up.

At the moment it's down to a player to sign a contract that is offered for 1,2,3,4 or even 5 years.... I wonder if now might be a good time to change it from years contracts to games contracts.
So rather than a player signing for 2 years they sign for 92 games or perhaps 80 if you want to allow a buffer for small knocks.

The club stand to gain in that they get what they pay for and the player stands to gain In that they know they still have games to play when a long injury setback has eventually finished.

It could be argued with that a club might then be stuck with a sick note but equally the club wouldn't lose an asset should they be reaching the end of their contract.

Just a thought

Uta
Thinking about all the injuries we and every other club suffer, I wonder if it might be time to change the way that player contracts are drawn up. At the moment it's down to a player to sign a contract that is offered for 1,2,3,4 or even 5 years.... I wonder if now might be a good time to change it from years contracts to games contracts. So rather than a player signing for 2 years they sign for 92 games or perhaps 80 if you want to allow a buffer for small knocks. The club stand to gain in that they get what they pay for and the player stands to gain In that they know they still have games to play when a long injury setback has eventually finished. It could be argued with that a club might then be stuck with a sick note but equally the club wouldn't lose an asset should they be reaching the end of their contract. Just a thought Uta SMF20

12:47pm Tue 17 Dec 13

fairweathersupporter says...

Good depth to the squad. Not all as quality as Orlandi and perhaps Spanish Dave, Buckley and occasionally Bruno go missing in action every now and then but no real shirkers. So Orlandi back when he is ready.
The next three games are perhaps more important than ever. Get ourselves well establsihed in the play off places and the January transfer window will provide a clearer view of our intentions, with regards to our ability to retain our assets or sign possible replacements.

BTW, Who was Captain on Saturday? Can't find it anywhere.
Good depth to the squad. Not all as quality as Orlandi and perhaps Spanish Dave, Buckley and occasionally Bruno go missing in action every now and then but no real shirkers. So Orlandi back when he is ready. The next three games are perhaps more important than ever. Get ourselves well establsihed in the play off places and the January transfer window will provide a clearer view of our intentions, with regards to our ability to retain our assets or sign possible replacements. BTW, Who was Captain on Saturday? Can't find it anywhere. fairweathersupporter

1:20pm Tue 17 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

fairweathersupporter wrote:
Good depth to the squad. Not all as quality as Orlandi and perhaps Spanish Dave, Buckley and occasionally Bruno go missing in action every now and then but no real shirkers. So Orlandi back when he is ready.
The next three games are perhaps more important than ever. Get ourselves well establsihed in the play off places and the January transfer window will provide a clearer view of our intentions, with regards to our ability to retain our assets or sign possible replacements.

BTW, Who was Captain on Saturday? Can't find it anywhere.
I think it was Bridcutt
[quote][p][bold]fairweathersupporter[/bold] wrote: Good depth to the squad. Not all as quality as Orlandi and perhaps Spanish Dave, Buckley and occasionally Bruno go missing in action every now and then but no real shirkers. So Orlandi back when he is ready. The next three games are perhaps more important than ever. Get ourselves well establsihed in the play off places and the January transfer window will provide a clearer view of our intentions, with regards to our ability to retain our assets or sign possible replacements. BTW, Who was Captain on Saturday? Can't find it anywhere.[/p][/quote]I think it was Bridcutt VegasSeagull

4:54pm Tue 17 Dec 13

fairweathersupporter says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
fairweathersupporter wrote:
Good depth to the squad. Not all as quality as Orlandi and perhaps Spanish Dave, Buckley and occasionally Bruno go missing in action every now and then but no real shirkers. So Orlandi back when he is ready.
The next three games are perhaps more important than ever. Get ourselves well establsihed in the play off places and the January transfer window will provide a clearer view of our intentions, with regards to our ability to retain our assets or sign possible replacements.

BTW, Who was Captain on Saturday? Can't find it anywhere.
I think it was Bridcutt
Thanks Vegas,. missed it under the 'Bridcutt found it tough' article. Another reason for him to stay...
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fairweathersupporter[/bold] wrote: Good depth to the squad. Not all as quality as Orlandi and perhaps Spanish Dave, Buckley and occasionally Bruno go missing in action every now and then but no real shirkers. So Orlandi back when he is ready. The next three games are perhaps more important than ever. Get ourselves well establsihed in the play off places and the January transfer window will provide a clearer view of our intentions, with regards to our ability to retain our assets or sign possible replacements. BTW, Who was Captain on Saturday? Can't find it anywhere.[/p][/quote]I think it was Bridcutt[/p][/quote]Thanks Vegas,. missed it under the 'Bridcutt found it tough' article. Another reason for him to stay... fairweathersupporter

5:20pm Tue 17 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

I wonder how much sway the club has when it comes to a possible sale of Bridcutt. If we accept that there is not much to be gained by keeping a player who wants away, the club would want it's valuation of Bridders to be met, but how do we evaluate the lad.
There isn't any point in pricing him at a figure that might expect to pay to replace him because at our level those players are few and far between, hence the interest in Bridcutt from prem clubs.
Putting a, 'silly money,' price tag on him might kill the deal, and that would alienate the player and if the fans thought the price was too low, that would P them off, just where is the balance point.
Would anyone agree that a price tag of 3 million could be seen as realistic, but the buyers desire to get him might push that figure up to 4 million, so should we turn down a 3 million bid? I guess I should also ask, is 4 million enough?
The two most influential outfield players currently in our squad are Ulloa and Bridcutt, we turned down 5 million for Ulloa. Should we value a defensive midfield player, Bridders, in the same way we value a striker, Ulloa. To lose either one could have a massive affect on our squad so should their price tags be close, is Bridcutt a 5 million player?
I guess supply and demand will settle the question, if more than one prem club wants him let the bidding war begin.
What price tag would you guys place on Bridcutt?
I wonder how much sway the club has when it comes to a possible sale of Bridcutt. If we accept that there is not much to be gained by keeping a player who wants away, the club would want it's valuation of Bridders to be met, but how do we evaluate the lad. There isn't any point in pricing him at a figure that might expect to pay to replace him because at our level those players are few and far between, hence the interest in Bridcutt from prem clubs. Putting a, 'silly money,' price tag on him might kill the deal, and that would alienate the player and if the fans thought the price was too low, that would P them off, just where is the balance point. Would anyone agree that a price tag of 3 million could be seen as realistic, but the buyers desire to get him might push that figure up to 4 million, so should we turn down a 3 million bid? I guess I should also ask, is 4 million enough? The two most influential outfield players currently in our squad are Ulloa and Bridcutt, we turned down 5 million for Ulloa. Should we value a defensive midfield player, Bridders, in the same way we value a striker, Ulloa. To lose either one could have a massive affect on our squad so should their price tags be close, is Bridcutt a 5 million player? I guess supply and demand will settle the question, if more than one prem club wants him let the bidding war begin. What price tag would you guys place on Bridcutt? VegasSeagull

5:25pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Aye Aye says...

With all the injuries OG has had to deal with this year, it's worth noting that, at the 20 game stage last year, we were 8th in the table with 31 points and a positive goal difference of 8. After 20 games this season, we're 8th with 31 points and a positive goal difference of 7 - virtually identically placed.

With the likes of Orlandi and Ulloa poised to make a return, not only am I full of admiration for what Oscar has done, I am full of confidence that we can make the play-offs again this season which is a far cry from the doubt and uncertainty I (and many other Albion supporters) experienced at the outset.

Oh yes, it's a good time to be an Albion supporter and I'm looking forward to the second half of the season. Bring it on!
With all the injuries OG has had to deal with this year, it's worth noting that, at the 20 game stage last year, we were 8th in the table with 31 points and a positive goal difference of 8. After 20 games this season, we're 8th with 31 points and a positive goal difference of 7 - virtually identically placed. With the likes of Orlandi and Ulloa poised to make a return, not only am I full of admiration for what Oscar has done, I am full of confidence that we can make the play-offs again this season which is a far cry from the doubt and uncertainty I (and many other Albion supporters) experienced at the outset. Oh yes, it's a good time to be an Albion supporter and I'm looking forward to the second half of the season. Bring it on! Aye Aye

5:29pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Aye Aye says...

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http://www.statto.co m/football/stats/eng land/league-champion ship/2012-2013/table /2012-12-01 Aye Aye

5:35pm Tue 17 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

Aye Aye wrote:
With all the injuries OG has had to deal with this year, it's worth noting that, at the 20 game stage last year, we were 8th in the table with 31 points and a positive goal difference of 8. After 20 games this season, we're 8th with 31 points and a positive goal difference of 7 - virtually identically placed.

With the likes of Orlandi and Ulloa poised to make a return, not only am I full of admiration for what Oscar has done, I am full of confidence that we can make the play-offs again this season which is a far cry from the doubt and uncertainty I (and many other Albion supporters) experienced at the outset.

Oh yes, it's a good time to be an Albion supporter and I'm looking forward to the second half of the season. Bring it on!
All things considered it is quite impressive isn't it.
[quote][p][bold]Aye Aye[/bold] wrote: With all the injuries OG has had to deal with this year, it's worth noting that, at the 20 game stage last year, we were 8th in the table with 31 points and a positive goal difference of 8. After 20 games this season, we're 8th with 31 points and a positive goal difference of 7 - virtually identically placed. With the likes of Orlandi and Ulloa poised to make a return, not only am I full of admiration for what Oscar has done, I am full of confidence that we can make the play-offs again this season which is a far cry from the doubt and uncertainty I (and many other Albion supporters) experienced at the outset. Oh yes, it's a good time to be an Albion supporter and I'm looking forward to the second half of the season. Bring it on![/p][/quote]All things considered it is quite impressive isn't it. VegasSeagull

5:56pm Tue 17 Dec 13

dave from bexill says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I wonder how much sway the club has when it comes to a possible sale of Bridcutt. If we accept that there is not much to be gained by keeping a player who wants away, the club would want it's valuation of Bridders to be met, but how do we evaluate the lad.
There isn't any point in pricing him at a figure that might expect to pay to replace him because at our level those players are few and far between, hence the interest in Bridcutt from prem clubs.
Putting a, 'silly money,' price tag on him might kill the deal, and that would alienate the player and if the fans thought the price was too low, that would P them off, just where is the balance point.
Would anyone agree that a price tag of 3 million could be seen as realistic, but the buyers desire to get him might push that figure up to 4 million, so should we turn down a 3 million bid? I guess I should also ask, is 4 million enough?
The two most influential outfield players currently in our squad are Ulloa and Bridcutt, we turned down 5 million for Ulloa. Should we value a defensive midfield player, Bridders, in the same way we value a striker, Ulloa. To lose either one could have a massive affect on our squad so should their price tags be close, is Bridcutt a 5 million player?
I guess supply and demand will settle the question, if more than one prem club wants him let the bidding war begin.
What price tag would you guys place on Bridcutt?
I admire your attempts to get some decent debates going on here Vegas. Unfortunately, I don't really have the space to join in at present.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I wonder how much sway the club has when it comes to a possible sale of Bridcutt. If we accept that there is not much to be gained by keeping a player who wants away, the club would want it's valuation of Bridders to be met, but how do we evaluate the lad. There isn't any point in pricing him at a figure that might expect to pay to replace him because at our level those players are few and far between, hence the interest in Bridcutt from prem clubs. Putting a, 'silly money,' price tag on him might kill the deal, and that would alienate the player and if the fans thought the price was too low, that would P them off, just where is the balance point. Would anyone agree that a price tag of 3 million could be seen as realistic, but the buyers desire to get him might push that figure up to 4 million, so should we turn down a 3 million bid? I guess I should also ask, is 4 million enough? The two most influential outfield players currently in our squad are Ulloa and Bridcutt, we turned down 5 million for Ulloa. Should we value a defensive midfield player, Bridders, in the same way we value a striker, Ulloa. To lose either one could have a massive affect on our squad so should their price tags be close, is Bridcutt a 5 million player? I guess supply and demand will settle the question, if more than one prem club wants him let the bidding war begin. What price tag would you guys place on Bridcutt?[/p][/quote]I admire your attempts to get some decent debates going on here Vegas. Unfortunately, I don't really have the space to join in at present. dave from bexill

6:21pm Tue 17 Dec 13

fairweathersupporter says...

5 million's about the going rate. maybe he'll stay until the end of the season and see what happens. Not sure what money he's on but only a fool would not factor that in. If it's the likes of S'land or other possible relegation candidates, then maybe it will be about money. But as the P.I.G says on the other story, there's nothing like plying your trade on sky week in, week out. ..
It's a tricky one for the club and ultimately it will be his decision. I obviously hope he sees out the season with us (and wants to play in the Premier League with us as P.I.G says in the other story...). Out of all of our squad, he is the only one i think we'll get serious bids for. But he's still with us now and if we're seriously in the mix in January, then that might sway his decision (as per my previous).
5 million's about the going rate. maybe he'll stay until the end of the season and see what happens. Not sure what money he's on but only a fool would not factor that in. If it's the likes of S'land or other possible relegation candidates, then maybe it will be about money. But as the P.I.G says on the other story, there's nothing like plying your trade on sky week in, week out. .. It's a tricky one for the club and ultimately it will be his decision. I obviously hope he sees out the season with us (and wants to play in the Premier League with us as P.I.G says in the other story...). Out of all of our squad, he is the only one i think we'll get serious bids for. But he's still with us now and if we're seriously in the mix in January, then that might sway his decision (as per my previous). fairweathersupporter

7:40pm Tue 17 Dec 13

OldGull says...

SMF20 wrote:
Thinking about all the injuries we and every other club suffer, I wonder if it might be time to change the way that player contracts are drawn up.

At the moment it's down to a player to sign a contract that is offered for 1,2,3,4 or even 5 years.... I wonder if now might be a good time to change it from years contracts to games contracts.
So rather than a player signing for 2 years they sign for 92 games or perhaps 80 if you want to allow a buffer for small knocks.

The club stand to gain in that they get what they pay for and the player stands to gain In that they know they still have games to play when a long injury setback has eventually finished.

It could be argued with that a club might then be stuck with a sick note but equally the club wouldn't lose an asset should they be reaching the end of their contract.

Just a thought

Uta
I like your thinking but,
You could sign a player who struggles to play 10 games a season.
You may have to pay them for 8 or more years
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: Thinking about all the injuries we and every other club suffer, I wonder if it might be time to change the way that player contracts are drawn up. At the moment it's down to a player to sign a contract that is offered for 1,2,3,4 or even 5 years.... I wonder if now might be a good time to change it from years contracts to games contracts. So rather than a player signing for 2 years they sign for 92 games or perhaps 80 if you want to allow a buffer for small knocks. The club stand to gain in that they get what they pay for and the player stands to gain In that they know they still have games to play when a long injury setback has eventually finished. It could be argued with that a club might then be stuck with a sick note but equally the club wouldn't lose an asset should they be reaching the end of their contract. Just a thought Uta[/p][/quote]I like your thinking but, You could sign a player who struggles to play 10 games a season. You may have to pay them for 8 or more years OldGull

8:38pm Tue 17 Dec 13

ringtone says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I wonder how much sway the club has when it comes to a possible sale of Bridcutt. If we accept that there is not much to be gained by keeping a player who wants away, the club would want it's valuation of Bridders to be met, but how do we evaluate the lad.
There isn't any point in pricing him at a figure that might expect to pay to replace him because at our level those players are few and far between, hence the interest in Bridcutt from prem clubs.
Putting a, 'silly money,' price tag on him might kill the deal, and that would alienate the player and if the fans thought the price was too low, that would P them off, just where is the balance point.
Would anyone agree that a price tag of 3 million could be seen as realistic, but the buyers desire to get him might push that figure up to 4 million, so should we turn down a 3 million bid? I guess I should also ask, is 4 million enough?
The two most influential outfield players currently in our squad are Ulloa and Bridcutt, we turned down 5 million for Ulloa. Should we value a defensive midfield player, Bridders, in the same way we value a striker, Ulloa. To lose either one could have a massive affect on our squad so should their price tags be close, is Bridcutt a 5 million player?
I guess supply and demand will settle the question, if more than one prem club wants him let the bidding war begin.
What price tag would you guys place on Bridcutt?
There is no interest from the premier league in bridcutt, unless you read the sun or the mirror.

5 million?? your having a laugh Vegas.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I wonder how much sway the club has when it comes to a possible sale of Bridcutt. If we accept that there is not much to be gained by keeping a player who wants away, the club would want it's valuation of Bridders to be met, but how do we evaluate the lad. There isn't any point in pricing him at a figure that might expect to pay to replace him because at our level those players are few and far between, hence the interest in Bridcutt from prem clubs. Putting a, 'silly money,' price tag on him might kill the deal, and that would alienate the player and if the fans thought the price was too low, that would P them off, just where is the balance point. Would anyone agree that a price tag of 3 million could be seen as realistic, but the buyers desire to get him might push that figure up to 4 million, so should we turn down a 3 million bid? I guess I should also ask, is 4 million enough? The two most influential outfield players currently in our squad are Ulloa and Bridcutt, we turned down 5 million for Ulloa. Should we value a defensive midfield player, Bridders, in the same way we value a striker, Ulloa. To lose either one could have a massive affect on our squad so should their price tags be close, is Bridcutt a 5 million player? I guess supply and demand will settle the question, if more than one prem club wants him let the bidding war begin. What price tag would you guys place on Bridcutt?[/p][/quote]There is no interest from the premier league in bridcutt, unless you read the sun or the mirror. 5 million?? your having a laugh Vegas. ringtone

8:43pm Tue 17 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I wonder how much sway the club has when it comes to a possible sale of Bridcutt. If we accept that there is not much to be gained by keeping a player who wants away, the club would want it's valuation of Bridders to be met, but how do we evaluate the lad.
There isn't any point in pricing him at a figure that might expect to pay to replace him because at our level those players are few and far between, hence the interest in Bridcutt from prem clubs.
Putting a, 'silly money,' price tag on him might kill the deal, and that would alienate the player and if the fans thought the price was too low, that would P them off, just where is the balance point.
Would anyone agree that a price tag of 3 million could be seen as realistic, but the buyers desire to get him might push that figure up to 4 million, so should we turn down a 3 million bid? I guess I should also ask, is 4 million enough?
The two most influential outfield players currently in our squad are Ulloa and Bridcutt, we turned down 5 million for Ulloa. Should we value a defensive midfield player, Bridders, in the same way we value a striker, Ulloa. To lose either one could have a massive affect on our squad so should their price tags be close, is Bridcutt a 5 million player?
I guess supply and demand will settle the question, if more than one prem club wants him let the bidding war begin.
What price tag would you guys place on Bridcutt?
There is no interest from the premier league in bridcutt, unless you read the sun or the mirror.

5 million?? your having a laugh Vegas.
I didn't say he was worth 5 million, so no, not having a laugh
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I wonder how much sway the club has when it comes to a possible sale of Bridcutt. If we accept that there is not much to be gained by keeping a player who wants away, the club would want it's valuation of Bridders to be met, but how do we evaluate the lad. There isn't any point in pricing him at a figure that might expect to pay to replace him because at our level those players are few and far between, hence the interest in Bridcutt from prem clubs. Putting a, 'silly money,' price tag on him might kill the deal, and that would alienate the player and if the fans thought the price was too low, that would P them off, just where is the balance point. Would anyone agree that a price tag of 3 million could be seen as realistic, but the buyers desire to get him might push that figure up to 4 million, so should we turn down a 3 million bid? I guess I should also ask, is 4 million enough? The two most influential outfield players currently in our squad are Ulloa and Bridcutt, we turned down 5 million for Ulloa. Should we value a defensive midfield player, Bridders, in the same way we value a striker, Ulloa. To lose either one could have a massive affect on our squad so should their price tags be close, is Bridcutt a 5 million player? I guess supply and demand will settle the question, if more than one prem club wants him let the bidding war begin. What price tag would you guys place on Bridcutt?[/p][/quote]There is no interest from the premier league in bridcutt, unless you read the sun or the mirror. 5 million?? your having a laugh Vegas.[/p][/quote]I didn't say he was worth 5 million, so no, not having a laugh VegasSeagull

8:49pm Tue 17 Dec 13

ringtone says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
ringtone wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
I wonder how much sway the club has when it comes to a possible sale of Bridcutt. If we accept that there is not much to be gained by keeping a player who wants away, the club would want it's valuation of Bridders to be met, but how do we evaluate the lad.
There isn't any point in pricing him at a figure that might expect to pay to replace him because at our level those players are few and far between, hence the interest in Bridcutt from prem clubs.
Putting a, 'silly money,' price tag on him might kill the deal, and that would alienate the player and if the fans thought the price was too low, that would P them off, just where is the balance point.
Would anyone agree that a price tag of 3 million could be seen as realistic, but the buyers desire to get him might push that figure up to 4 million, so should we turn down a 3 million bid? I guess I should also ask, is 4 million enough?
The two most influential outfield players currently in our squad are Ulloa and Bridcutt, we turned down 5 million for Ulloa. Should we value a defensive midfield player, Bridders, in the same way we value a striker, Ulloa. To lose either one could have a massive affect on our squad so should their price tags be close, is Bridcutt a 5 million player?
I guess supply and demand will settle the question, if more than one prem club wants him let the bidding war begin.
What price tag would you guys place on Bridcutt?
There is no interest from the premier league in bridcutt, unless you read the sun or the mirror.

5 million?? your having a laugh Vegas.
I didn't say he was worth 5 million, so no, not having a laugh
okay point taken.

I dont know, you are asking a real A level question.

There should be a place for you in the games administration, if you wanted it.

I will have to think on an answer, but thats hard.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I wonder how much sway the club has when it comes to a possible sale of Bridcutt. If we accept that there is not much to be gained by keeping a player who wants away, the club would want it's valuation of Bridders to be met, but how do we evaluate the lad. There isn't any point in pricing him at a figure that might expect to pay to replace him because at our level those players are few and far between, hence the interest in Bridcutt from prem clubs. Putting a, 'silly money,' price tag on him might kill the deal, and that would alienate the player and if the fans thought the price was too low, that would P them off, just where is the balance point. Would anyone agree that a price tag of 3 million could be seen as realistic, but the buyers desire to get him might push that figure up to 4 million, so should we turn down a 3 million bid? I guess I should also ask, is 4 million enough? The two most influential outfield players currently in our squad are Ulloa and Bridcutt, we turned down 5 million for Ulloa. Should we value a defensive midfield player, Bridders, in the same way we value a striker, Ulloa. To lose either one could have a massive affect on our squad so should their price tags be close, is Bridcutt a 5 million player? I guess supply and demand will settle the question, if more than one prem club wants him let the bidding war begin. What price tag would you guys place on Bridcutt?[/p][/quote]There is no interest from the premier league in bridcutt, unless you read the sun or the mirror. 5 million?? your having a laugh Vegas.[/p][/quote]I didn't say he was worth 5 million, so no, not having a laugh[/p][/quote]okay point taken. I dont know, you are asking a real A level question. There should be a place for you in the games administration, if you wanted it. I will have to think on an answer, but thats hard. ringtone

9:14pm Tue 17 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

Ringtone the general point I was trying to make is the problem of being seen to do right by the club, whilst not blocking a potential career move for one of our top young players.
Money is at the root of most decisions, the club wants maximize it's return for selling an asset and the player wants the biggest pay deal he can get, a balance has to be found to meet both requirements.
Ringtone the general point I was trying to make is the problem of being seen to do right by the club, whilst not blocking a potential career move for one of our top young players. Money is at the root of most decisions, the club wants maximize it's return for selling an asset and the player wants the biggest pay deal he can get, a balance has to be found to meet both requirements. VegasSeagull

9:49pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Thewithdeanyears says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
I wonder how much sway the club has when it comes to a possible sale of Bridcutt. If we accept that there is not much to be gained by keeping a player who wants away, the club would want it's valuation of Bridders to be met, but how do we evaluate the lad.
There isn't any point in pricing him at a figure that might expect to pay to replace him because at our level those players are few and far between, hence the interest in Bridcutt from prem clubs.
Putting a, 'silly money,' price tag on him might kill the deal, and that would alienate the player and if the fans thought the price was too low, that would P them off, just where is the balance point.
Would anyone agree that a price tag of 3 million could be seen as realistic, but the buyers desire to get him might push that figure up to 4 million, so should we turn down a 3 million bid? I guess I should also ask, is 4 million enough?
The two most influential outfield players currently in our squad are Ulloa and Bridcutt, we turned down 5 million for Ulloa. Should we value a defensive midfield player, Bridders, in the same way we value a striker, Ulloa. To lose either one could have a massive affect on our squad so should their price tags be close, is Bridcutt a 5 million player?
I guess supply and demand will settle the question, if more than one prem club wants him let the bidding war begin.
What price tag would you guys place on Bridcutt?
Dunno.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: I wonder how much sway the club has when it comes to a possible sale of Bridcutt. If we accept that there is not much to be gained by keeping a player who wants away, the club would want it's valuation of Bridders to be met, but how do we evaluate the lad. There isn't any point in pricing him at a figure that might expect to pay to replace him because at our level those players are few and far between, hence the interest in Bridcutt from prem clubs. Putting a, 'silly money,' price tag on him might kill the deal, and that would alienate the player and if the fans thought the price was too low, that would P them off, just where is the balance point. Would anyone agree that a price tag of 3 million could be seen as realistic, but the buyers desire to get him might push that figure up to 4 million, so should we turn down a 3 million bid? I guess I should also ask, is 4 million enough? The two most influential outfield players currently in our squad are Ulloa and Bridcutt, we turned down 5 million for Ulloa. Should we value a defensive midfield player, Bridders, in the same way we value a striker, Ulloa. To lose either one could have a massive affect on our squad so should their price tags be close, is Bridcutt a 5 million player? I guess supply and demand will settle the question, if more than one prem club wants him let the bidding war begin. What price tag would you guys place on Bridcutt?[/p][/quote]Dunno. Thewithdeanyears

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