Oscar: We deserved to win

The Argus: Leo Ulloa came on as a substitute in search of a goal (phorto Simon Dack) Leo Ulloa came on as a substitute in search of a goal (phorto Simon Dack)

Oscar Garcia felt Albion deserved to score a third successive win.

But he left regretting missed chances as the Seagulls were held 0-0 at The Amex by Huddersfield.

The Seagulls head coach said: “I think we played much better than the other team and we deserved to win.

“We did everything but score.

“I think it is one of the things that we have to improve.

“But the way to do is by creating chances and playing well.

“Hopefully in the next game we will be more accurate.”

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6:42pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Neville says...

So frustrating,every home match I go to I see the same things. Holding possession for most of the half,albeit it in our own half,even when 0-0 then the long ball to the wings or lone striker and no threat through the middle. Players getting wide and not looking up before crossing and players unwilling to shoot when in position to,especially today with a greasy surface.
We could have been in the play off spot tonight with a little bit more flair and imagination.
At home we have got to attack teams and I really don't know why we got Lita on loan,he is a goalscorer and should,in my opinion been on the bench and come on at some stage.
The bench should have included Lita but instead apart from Lua Lua, we have defensive players,very disappointed, an opportunity missed.
Usual endeavours from Barnes but cannot finish and final balls just wasted by wingers.
Thought Austien looked the most creative and he is subbed and Lua Lua should,in my opinion have started.
Referee was ok but why won't officials penalise holding in the area,happened all the time especially on Ince.
Feel OG needs to be a little more ambitious in his home selections.
So frustrating,every home match I go to I see the same things. Holding possession for most of the half,albeit it in our own half,even when 0-0 then the long ball to the wings or lone striker and no threat through the middle. Players getting wide and not looking up before crossing and players unwilling to shoot when in position to,especially today with a greasy surface. We could have been in the play off spot tonight with a little bit more flair and imagination. At home we have got to attack teams and I really don't know why we got Lita on loan,he is a goalscorer and should,in my opinion been on the bench and come on at some stage. The bench should have included Lita but instead apart from Lua Lua, we have defensive players,very disappointed, an opportunity missed. Usual endeavours from Barnes but cannot finish and final balls just wasted by wingers. Thought Austien looked the most creative and he is subbed and Lua Lua should,in my opinion have started. Referee was ok but why won't officials penalise holding in the area,happened all the time especially on Ince. Feel OG needs to be a little more ambitious in his home selections. Neville

6:44pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Alfie T says...

We did deserve to win but only just, to often it's just Barnes as the target surrounded by defenders, not enough bodies in the box to give the wide players options.
We did deserve to win but only just, to often it's just Barnes as the target surrounded by defenders, not enough bodies in the box to give the wide players options. Alfie T

6:52pm Sat 21 Dec 13

tug509 says...

Love Oscar`s style ,but "be more accurate" ,we have had problems with our finishing for 3 seasons , we score a goal about every 10 chances on average, of course thats a guess ,today 14 and no goal ,so overall i doubt it`s far off ,i was as happy as a dog with 2 tails for a short while ,when AB and LU were playing together,but why WB on the left wing ,it should have been perfect ,KLL on the left WB on the right and Leo and Ash in the middle ,it wouldn`t work every game ,but today....?. UTA
Love Oscar`s style ,but "be more accurate" ,we have had problems with our finishing for 3 seasons , we score a goal about every 10 chances on average, of course thats a guess ,today 14 and no goal ,so overall i doubt it`s far off ,i was as happy as a dog with 2 tails for a short while ,when AB and LU were playing together,but why WB on the left wing ,it should have been perfect ,KLL on the left WB on the right and Leo and Ash in the middle ,it wouldn`t work every game ,but today....?. UTA tug509

7:06pm Sat 21 Dec 13

The Phantom says...

Have played worse this season and won. If we had scored a goal we would have deserved it but ultimately we did not test the keeper enough or find enough telling final balls. Lots of good performances from the likes of Bruno, Lopez, Ince, Bridcutt and El Abd - it is a tough league and anyone can beat anyone on any given day. Not quite sure why there have been so many negative comments on here - it was a huge improvement on the recent Barnsley performance.
Have played worse this season and won. If we had scored a goal we would have deserved it but ultimately we did not test the keeper enough or find enough telling final balls. Lots of good performances from the likes of Bruno, Lopez, Ince, Bridcutt and El Abd - it is a tough league and anyone can beat anyone on any given day. Not quite sure why there have been so many negative comments on here - it was a huge improvement on the recent Barnsley performance. The Phantom

7:37pm Sat 21 Dec 13

ringtone says...

I wonder if a similar article will appear in the Huddersfield Chronicle to be followed by the inevitable outrage of Town fans, Idiot, one eyed, biased blah blah.

Excuse the pun but does it Ring any bells you lot.

Or is it the quiet one finally morphing into every other championship boss, you decide.
I wonder if a similar article will appear in the Huddersfield Chronicle to be followed by the inevitable outrage of Town fans, Idiot, one eyed, biased blah blah. Excuse the pun but does it Ring any bells you lot. Or is it the quiet one finally morphing into every other championship boss, you decide. ringtone

7:47pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Chi Gull says...

Agreed phantom - a lot of good approach play, but it was that final ball and finishing that let us down. A bit more composure in and around the penalty box and we would be challenging for automatic promotion. Lita wouldn't have made any difference, but I think Conway would..as his delivery into the box was better than anything we saw today. Looking at the positives, another little run out for Ulloa, Spanish Dave had another good game and Bruno seems to be back to his best. I am not convinced about playing Ince Bridcutt and Agustein together but at times it looked effective. I think we missed Crofts forward runs. On the down side, Buckley was largely ineffective and Barnes had a bad day in front of goal, but the rest of his game was OK.
Agreed phantom - a lot of good approach play, but it was that final ball and finishing that let us down. A bit more composure in and around the penalty box and we would be challenging for automatic promotion. Lita wouldn't have made any difference, but I think Conway would..as his delivery into the box was better than anything we saw today. Looking at the positives, another little run out for Ulloa, Spanish Dave had another good game and Bruno seems to be back to his best. I am not convinced about playing Ince Bridcutt and Agustein together but at times it looked effective. I think we missed Crofts forward runs. On the down side, Buckley was largely ineffective and Barnes had a bad day in front of goal, but the rest of his game was OK. Chi Gull

7:50pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Thewithdeanyears says...

Oscar must show some guts and admit we weren't good enough instead of making feeble excuses. We should be in the automatic spots by now, some of this is blooms fault but Oscar is not helping his cause either. I have to say that another season of mid table mediocrity is not what I signed up for and a good number of supporters in the section I sit in have similar grumblings.
Oscar must show some guts and admit we weren't good enough instead of making feeble excuses. We should be in the automatic spots by now, some of this is blooms fault but Oscar is not helping his cause either. I have to say that another season of mid table mediocrity is not what I signed up for and a good number of supporters in the section I sit in have similar grumblings. Thewithdeanyears

8:14pm Sat 21 Dec 13

tug509 says...

Thewithdeanyears wrote:
Oscar must show some guts and admit we weren't good enough instead of making feeble excuses. We should be in the automatic spots by now, some of this is blooms fault but Oscar is not helping his cause either. I have to say that another season of mid table mediocrity is not what I signed up for and a good number of supporters in the section I sit in have similar grumblings.
This is the best post i have ever read ,your knowledge is mind blowing ,talking of mind blowing ,do you have access to a couple of sticks of dynamite ,just tape those suckers to your head and light the blue bit ,then you can share your knowledge with the whole room !.
[quote][p][bold]Thewithdeanyears[/bold] wrote: Oscar must show some guts and admit we weren't good enough instead of making feeble excuses. We should be in the automatic spots by now, some of this is blooms fault but Oscar is not helping his cause either. I have to say that another season of mid table mediocrity is not what I signed up for and a good number of supporters in the section I sit in have similar grumblings.[/p][/quote]This is the best post i have ever read ,your knowledge is mind blowing ,talking of mind blowing ,do you have access to a couple of sticks of dynamite ,just tape those suckers to your head and light the blue bit ,then you can share your knowledge with the whole room !. tug509

8:28pm Sat 21 Dec 13

fratsomrover says...

Well didn't I say in my earlier post that OG will be on here saying we should have won, created enough chances to win, but yet again failed to take our chances. Well maybe he should take the blame for picking a team so devoid of goalscorers. He should take the blame for playing WB wide on the left when everyone knows he is a right winger. WB was like a fish out of water on the left and never once looked like taking on and beating his full back. Lua Lua should have come in in place of the departed Conroy, he is the natural replacement after all. WB has been great down the right this season, so why not play him there.
Then of course there's AB, the divisions most feared centre forward. Take away the two penalties and two tap ins and he's scored one goal in 18 matches. Ulloa should have been on for 30 minutes at least or even started. If he tired then he could have been subbed, but at least it would have given us the chance to have been 2 or 3 up. No point playing wingers when they dont have a target man to aim for in the box.
We are 11 points and 11 goals behind Burnley !!
We wouldn't give the time of day to Ings or Vokes, but they have scored 26 goals between them, more than our entire team. And what of Dyche ? better than OG or not ? Well at least he knows that to win games you have to score goals and has developed a system to utillise the abilities (albeit limited) of his strikers.
I'm despondent at our reluctance to play our best attacking formation and our perseverence with a centre forward who is way out of his depth.
Well didn't I say in my earlier post that OG will be on here saying we should have won, created enough chances to win, but yet again failed to take our chances. Well maybe he should take the blame for picking a team so devoid of goalscorers. He should take the blame for playing WB wide on the left when everyone knows he is a right winger. WB was like a fish out of water on the left and never once looked like taking on and beating his full back. Lua Lua should have come in in place of the departed Conroy, he is the natural replacement after all. WB has been great down the right this season, so why not play him there. Then of course there's AB, the divisions most feared centre forward. Take away the two penalties and two tap ins and he's scored one goal in 18 matches. Ulloa should have been on for 30 minutes at least or even started. If he tired then he could have been subbed, but at least it would have given us the chance to have been 2 or 3 up. No point playing wingers when they dont have a target man to aim for in the box. We are 11 points and 11 goals behind Burnley !! We wouldn't give the time of day to Ings or Vokes, but they have scored 26 goals between them, more than our entire team. And what of Dyche ? better than OG or not ? Well at least he knows that to win games you have to score goals and has developed a system to utillise the abilities (albeit limited) of his strikers. I'm despondent at our reluctance to play our best attacking formation and our perseverence with a centre forward who is way out of his depth. fratsomrover

8:37pm Sat 21 Dec 13

tug509 says...

fratsomrover wrote:
Well didn't I say in my earlier post that OG will be on here saying we should have won, created enough chances to win, but yet again failed to take our chances. Well maybe he should take the blame for picking a team so devoid of goalscorers. He should take the blame for playing WB wide on the left when everyone knows he is a right winger. WB was like a fish out of water on the left and never once looked like taking on and beating his full back. Lua Lua should have come in in place of the departed Conroy, he is the natural replacement after all. WB has been great down the right this season, so why not play him there.
Then of course there's AB, the divisions most feared centre forward. Take away the two penalties and two tap ins and he's scored one goal in 18 matches. Ulloa should have been on for 30 minutes at least or even started. If he tired then he could have been subbed, but at least it would have given us the chance to have been 2 or 3 up. No point playing wingers when they dont have a target man to aim for in the box.
We are 11 points and 11 goals behind Burnley !!
We wouldn't give the time of day to Ings or Vokes, but they have scored 26 goals between them, more than our entire team. And what of Dyche ? better than OG or not ? Well at least he knows that to win games you have to score goals and has developed a system to utillise the abilities (albeit limited) of his strikers.
I'm despondent at our reluctance to play our best attacking formation and our perseverence with a centre forward who is way out of his depth.
I will not knock OGJ ,but everthing else you have written is imo spot on . UTA
[quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Well didn't I say in my earlier post that OG will be on here saying we should have won, created enough chances to win, but yet again failed to take our chances. Well maybe he should take the blame for picking a team so devoid of goalscorers. He should take the blame for playing WB wide on the left when everyone knows he is a right winger. WB was like a fish out of water on the left and never once looked like taking on and beating his full back. Lua Lua should have come in in place of the departed Conroy, he is the natural replacement after all. WB has been great down the right this season, so why not play him there. Then of course there's AB, the divisions most feared centre forward. Take away the two penalties and two tap ins and he's scored one goal in 18 matches. Ulloa should have been on for 30 minutes at least or even started. If he tired then he could have been subbed, but at least it would have given us the chance to have been 2 or 3 up. No point playing wingers when they dont have a target man to aim for in the box. We are 11 points and 11 goals behind Burnley !! We wouldn't give the time of day to Ings or Vokes, but they have scored 26 goals between them, more than our entire team. And what of Dyche ? better than OG or not ? Well at least he knows that to win games you have to score goals and has developed a system to utillise the abilities (albeit limited) of his strikers. I'm despondent at our reluctance to play our best attacking formation and our perseverence with a centre forward who is way out of his depth.[/p][/quote]I will not knock OGJ ,but everthing else you have written is imo spot on . UTA tug509

8:50pm Sat 21 Dec 13

PressBoxTeaBoy says...

Three points from today, albeit the wrong sort of points.

1. Without knocking the hard working Barnes, he's a good striker but not a great striker, and today a great striker would have scored twice in Barnes shoes. Ulloa is a great striker.

2. We may have deserved to win, but until you go out and start with your best 11, in a home advantage attack minded formation you will always rue the if, but's, and maybe's, and that was us again today, and its becocming a bit repetative at home.

3. A 70% fit Ulloa is better off starting and lasting 50-60 mins rather than having 10 mins at the end of the game, and Buckley with Lua Lua would have been a better bet than Buckley with Lopez. Lopez and Augustien are not part of our best 11 in my opinion.

Huge opportunity missed today in favor of being a little too conservative. We don't appear to be learning from it though, we keep setting out our stall in this manner, but now we don't have an injury depleted squad as an excuse ?

Huddersfield were a non event.
Three points from today, albeit the wrong sort of points. 1. Without knocking the hard working Barnes, he's a good striker but not a great striker, and today a great striker would have scored twice in Barnes shoes. Ulloa is a great striker. 2. We may have deserved to win, but until you go out and start with your best 11, in a home advantage attack minded formation you will always rue the if, but's, and maybe's, and that was us again today, and its becocming a bit repetative at home. 3. A 70% fit Ulloa is better off starting and lasting 50-60 mins rather than having 10 mins at the end of the game, and Buckley with Lua Lua would have been a better bet than Buckley with Lopez. Lopez and Augustien are not part of our best 11 in my opinion. Huge opportunity missed today in favor of being a little too conservative. We don't appear to be learning from it though, we keep setting out our stall in this manner, but now we don't have an injury depleted squad as an excuse ? Huddersfield were a non event. PressBoxTeaBoy

9:07pm Sat 21 Dec 13

steve seeagullls says...

Thewithdeanyears wrote:
Oscar must show some guts and admit we weren't good enough instead of making feeble excuses. We should be in the automatic spots by now, some of this is blooms fault but Oscar is not helping his cause either. I have to say that another season of mid table mediocrity is not what I signed up for and a good number of supporters in the section I sit in have similar grumblings.
were the withdean years better than this . I think not .. This is how fickle football gets
[quote][p][bold]Thewithdeanyears[/bold] wrote: Oscar must show some guts and admit we weren't good enough instead of making feeble excuses. We should be in the automatic spots by now, some of this is blooms fault but Oscar is not helping his cause either. I have to say that another season of mid table mediocrity is not what I signed up for and a good number of supporters in the section I sit in have similar grumblings.[/p][/quote]were the withdean years better than this . I think not .. This is how fickle football gets steve seeagullls

9:19pm Sat 21 Dec 13

steve seeagullls says...

Chi Gull wrote:
Agreed phantom - a lot of good approach play, but it was that final ball and finishing that let us down. A bit more composure in and around the penalty box and we would be challenging for automatic promotion. Lita wouldn't have made any difference, but I think Conway would..as his delivery into the box was better than anything we saw today. Looking at the positives, another little run out for Ulloa, Spanish Dave had another good game and Bruno seems to be back to his best. I am not convinced about playing Ince Bridcutt and Agustein together but at times it looked effective. I think we missed Crofts forward runs. On the down side, Buckley was largely ineffective and Barnes had a bad day in front of goal, but the rest of his game was OK.
well said , definitely agree we missed crofts driving forward to make that extra man in the box and create a bit of room for barnes . Having said that kemy played well but crofts for me any day
[quote][p][bold]Chi Gull[/bold] wrote: Agreed phantom - a lot of good approach play, but it was that final ball and finishing that let us down. A bit more composure in and around the penalty box and we would be challenging for automatic promotion. Lita wouldn't have made any difference, but I think Conway would..as his delivery into the box was better than anything we saw today. Looking at the positives, another little run out for Ulloa, Spanish Dave had another good game and Bruno seems to be back to his best. I am not convinced about playing Ince Bridcutt and Agustein together but at times it looked effective. I think we missed Crofts forward runs. On the down side, Buckley was largely ineffective and Barnes had a bad day in front of goal, but the rest of his game was OK.[/p][/quote]well said , definitely agree we missed crofts driving forward to make that extra man in the box and create a bit of room for barnes . Having said that kemy played well but crofts for me any day steve seeagullls

9:31pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Willie, Willie Irvine says...

tug509 wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
Well didn't I say in my earlier post that OG will be on here saying we should have won, created enough chances to win, but yet again failed to take our chances. Well maybe he should take the blame for picking a team so devoid of goalscorers. He should take the blame for playing WB wide on the left when everyone knows he is a right winger. WB was like a fish out of water on the left and never once looked like taking on and beating his full back. Lua Lua should have come in in place of the departed Conroy, he is the natural replacement after all. WB has been great down the right this season, so why not play him there.
Then of course there's AB, the divisions most feared centre forward. Take away the two penalties and two tap ins and he's scored one goal in 18 matches. Ulloa should have been on for 30 minutes at least or even started. If he tired then he could have been subbed, but at least it would have given us the chance to have been 2 or 3 up. No point playing wingers when they dont have a target man to aim for in the box.
We are 11 points and 11 goals behind Burnley !!
We wouldn't give the time of day to Ings or Vokes, but they have scored 26 goals between them, more than our entire team. And what of Dyche ? better than OG or not ? Well at least he knows that to win games you have to score goals and has developed a system to utillise the abilities (albeit limited) of his strikers.
I'm despondent at our reluctance to play our best attacking formation and our perseverence with a centre forward who is way out of his depth.
I will not knock OGJ ,but everthing else you have written is imo spot on . UTA
I have given OG credit for being the quiet type, but I feel slightly underwhelmed by His 'Hopefully in the next game we'll be more accurate' comment. It makes him sound like an interested observer, not the guy who's going to make it happen. Make it happen Oscar...
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Well didn't I say in my earlier post that OG will be on here saying we should have won, created enough chances to win, but yet again failed to take our chances. Well maybe he should take the blame for picking a team so devoid of goalscorers. He should take the blame for playing WB wide on the left when everyone knows he is a right winger. WB was like a fish out of water on the left and never once looked like taking on and beating his full back. Lua Lua should have come in in place of the departed Conroy, he is the natural replacement after all. WB has been great down the right this season, so why not play him there. Then of course there's AB, the divisions most feared centre forward. Take away the two penalties and two tap ins and he's scored one goal in 18 matches. Ulloa should have been on for 30 minutes at least or even started. If he tired then he could have been subbed, but at least it would have given us the chance to have been 2 or 3 up. No point playing wingers when they dont have a target man to aim for in the box. We are 11 points and 11 goals behind Burnley !! We wouldn't give the time of day to Ings or Vokes, but they have scored 26 goals between them, more than our entire team. And what of Dyche ? better than OG or not ? Well at least he knows that to win games you have to score goals and has developed a system to utillise the abilities (albeit limited) of his strikers. I'm despondent at our reluctance to play our best attacking formation and our perseverence with a centre forward who is way out of his depth.[/p][/quote]I will not knock OGJ ,but everthing else you have written is imo spot on . UTA[/p][/quote]I have given OG credit for being the quiet type, but I feel slightly underwhelmed by His 'Hopefully in the next game we'll be more accurate' comment. It makes him sound like an interested observer, not the guy who's going to make it happen. Make it happen Oscar... Willie, Willie Irvine

9:42pm Sat 21 Dec 13

steve seeagullls says...

The Phantom wrote:
Have played worse this season and won. If we had scored a goal we would have deserved it but ultimately we did not test the keeper enough or find enough telling final balls. Lots of good performances from the likes of Bruno, Lopez, Ince, Bridcutt and El Abd - it is a tough league and anyone can beat anyone on any given day. Not quite sure why there have been so many negative comments on here - it was a huge improvement on the recent Barnsley performance.
I totally agree with what you say I think the only thing was crofts missing today . kemy did well but we needed crofts to be driving into the box and getting stuck in in midfield
[quote][p][bold]The Phantom[/bold] wrote: Have played worse this season and won. If we had scored a goal we would have deserved it but ultimately we did not test the keeper enough or find enough telling final balls. Lots of good performances from the likes of Bruno, Lopez, Ince, Bridcutt and El Abd - it is a tough league and anyone can beat anyone on any given day. Not quite sure why there have been so many negative comments on here - it was a huge improvement on the recent Barnsley performance.[/p][/quote]I totally agree with what you say I think the only thing was crofts missing today . kemy did well but we needed crofts to be driving into the box and getting stuck in in midfield steve seeagullls

9:46pm Sat 21 Dec 13

tug509 says...

Willie, Willie Irvine wrote:
tug509 wrote:
fratsomrover wrote:
Well didn't I say in my earlier post that OG will be on here saying we should have won, created enough chances to win, but yet again failed to take our chances. Well maybe he should take the blame for picking a team so devoid of goalscorers. He should take the blame for playing WB wide on the left when everyone knows he is a right winger. WB was like a fish out of water on the left and never once looked like taking on and beating his full back. Lua Lua should have come in in place of the departed Conroy, he is the natural replacement after all. WB has been great down the right this season, so why not play him there.
Then of course there's AB, the divisions most feared centre forward. Take away the two penalties and two tap ins and he's scored one goal in 18 matches. Ulloa should have been on for 30 minutes at least or even started. If he tired then he could have been subbed, but at least it would have given us the chance to have been 2 or 3 up. No point playing wingers when they dont have a target man to aim for in the box.
We are 11 points and 11 goals behind Burnley !!
We wouldn't give the time of day to Ings or Vokes, but they have scored 26 goals between them, more than our entire team. And what of Dyche ? better than OG or not ? Well at least he knows that to win games you have to score goals and has developed a system to utillise the abilities (albeit limited) of his strikers.
I'm despondent at our reluctance to play our best attacking formation and our perseverence with a centre forward who is way out of his depth.
I will not knock OGJ ,but everthing else you have written is imo spot on . UTA
I have given OG credit for being the quiet type, but I feel slightly underwhelmed by His 'Hopefully in the next game we'll be more accurate' comment. It makes him sound like an interested observer, not the guy who's going to make it happen. Make it happen Oscar...
Your tactful words Willie and Fratsomrovers post work perfectly together ,after GP ,i try to choose my words about Oscar carefully ,but i think it is careful that is stopping us from battering some teams !. :0) UTA
[quote][p][bold]Willie, Willie Irvine[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fratsomrover[/bold] wrote: Well didn't I say in my earlier post that OG will be on here saying we should have won, created enough chances to win, but yet again failed to take our chances. Well maybe he should take the blame for picking a team so devoid of goalscorers. He should take the blame for playing WB wide on the left when everyone knows he is a right winger. WB was like a fish out of water on the left and never once looked like taking on and beating his full back. Lua Lua should have come in in place of the departed Conroy, he is the natural replacement after all. WB has been great down the right this season, so why not play him there. Then of course there's AB, the divisions most feared centre forward. Take away the two penalties and two tap ins and he's scored one goal in 18 matches. Ulloa should have been on for 30 minutes at least or even started. If he tired then he could have been subbed, but at least it would have given us the chance to have been 2 or 3 up. No point playing wingers when they dont have a target man to aim for in the box. We are 11 points and 11 goals behind Burnley !! We wouldn't give the time of day to Ings or Vokes, but they have scored 26 goals between them, more than our entire team. And what of Dyche ? better than OG or not ? Well at least he knows that to win games you have to score goals and has developed a system to utillise the abilities (albeit limited) of his strikers. I'm despondent at our reluctance to play our best attacking formation and our perseverence with a centre forward who is way out of his depth.[/p][/quote]I will not knock OGJ ,but everthing else you have written is imo spot on . UTA[/p][/quote]I have given OG credit for being the quiet type, but I feel slightly underwhelmed by His 'Hopefully in the next game we'll be more accurate' comment. It makes him sound like an interested observer, not the guy who's going to make it happen. Make it happen Oscar...[/p][/quote]Your tactful words Willie and Fratsomrovers post work perfectly together ,after GP ,i try to choose my words about Oscar carefully ,but i think it is careful that is stopping us from battering some teams !. :0) UTA tug509

9:59pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Claude Back says...

Neville wrote:
So frustrating,every home match I go to I see the same things. Holding possession for most of the half,albeit it in our own half,even when 0-0 then the long ball to the wings or lone striker and no threat through the middle. Players getting wide and not looking up before crossing and players unwilling to shoot when in position to,especially today with a greasy surface.
We could have been in the play off spot tonight with a little bit more flair and imagination.
At home we have got to attack teams and I really don't know why we got Lita on loan,he is a goalscorer and should,in my opinion been on the bench and come on at some stage.
The bench should have included Lita but instead apart from Lua Lua, we have defensive players,very disappointed, an opportunity missed.
Usual endeavours from Barnes but cannot finish and final balls just wasted by wingers.
Thought Austien looked the most creative and he is subbed and Lua Lua should,in my opinion have started.
Referee was ok but why won't officials penalise holding in the area,happened all the time especially on Ince.
Feel OG needs to be a little more ambitious in his home selections.
Agree, Neville. You have it succinctly.
Why the heck doesn't he play Lita or have him on the bench? He is not injured.
I loathe this 'one striker' football. It very rarely works in this division and is boring to watch.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: So frustrating,every home match I go to I see the same things. Holding possession for most of the half,albeit it in our own half,even when 0-0 then the long ball to the wings or lone striker and no threat through the middle. Players getting wide and not looking up before crossing and players unwilling to shoot when in position to,especially today with a greasy surface. We could have been in the play off spot tonight with a little bit more flair and imagination. At home we have got to attack teams and I really don't know why we got Lita on loan,he is a goalscorer and should,in my opinion been on the bench and come on at some stage. The bench should have included Lita but instead apart from Lua Lua, we have defensive players,very disappointed, an opportunity missed. Usual endeavours from Barnes but cannot finish and final balls just wasted by wingers. Thought Austien looked the most creative and he is subbed and Lua Lua should,in my opinion have started. Referee was ok but why won't officials penalise holding in the area,happened all the time especially on Ince. Feel OG needs to be a little more ambitious in his home selections.[/p][/quote]Agree, Neville. You have it succinctly. Why the heck doesn't he play Lita or have him on the bench? He is not injured. I loathe this 'one striker' football. It very rarely works in this division and is boring to watch. Claude Back

11:49pm Sat 21 Dec 13

EastWorthingExocetMissile says...

Ashley Barnes is an appalling finisher always has been always will be. Hard worker and willing to play out of position yes. But a terrible finisher until we admit this instead of some of some of the cods wallop Put on this site about him being a good finisher the better. We dominate games and don't get the points week in week out but without the strikers to put it away it counts for nothing.
Ashley Barnes is an appalling finisher always has been always will be. Hard worker and willing to play out of position yes. But a terrible finisher until we admit this instead of some of some of the cods wallop Put on this site about him being a good finisher the better. We dominate games and don't get the points week in week out but without the strikers to put it away it counts for nothing. EastWorthingExocetMissile

1:06am Sun 22 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

I think we suffered today from having a 70% fit striker on the bench, his being there meant that he could not come on at half time due to his fitness or lack there of. Before the game I stated that I as fearful of Barnes getting injured early and the only striker on the bench would be Ulloa.

Even if we don't play two strikers, we must have two FIT strikers available, one on the park and one on the bench, what if we had gone one nil down and wanted to change things around at half time, that would have been too early for a 70% fit Ulloa. Lita and Ulloa should have been on the bench today, Lita should we need him and Ulloa for a 15 minute run out.
Barnes was not firing on all cylinders today, had Lita been on the bench he could have replaced him at the 45. Calde could have been left off the bench to make room for Lita as David has shown that he can cover at right back.

Oscar had the right starting line up, he simply got his bench wrong as it didn't offer much up front, IMHO. We know hat Oscar wants to ease Ulloa back in, and I get that, but I ask again, who would have come on had Barnes taken a knock in the first 15 minutes. You can't ease a player in and have him as cover for all events.
I think we suffered today from having a 70% fit striker on the bench, his being there meant that he could not come on at half time due to his fitness or lack there of. Before the game I stated that I as fearful of Barnes getting injured early and the only striker on the bench would be Ulloa. Even if we don't play two strikers, we must have two FIT strikers available, one on the park and one on the bench, what if we had gone one nil down and wanted to change things around at half time, that would have been too early for a 70% fit Ulloa. Lita and Ulloa should have been on the bench today, Lita should we need him and Ulloa for a 15 minute run out. Barnes was not firing on all cylinders today, had Lita been on the bench he could have replaced him at the 45. Calde could have been left off the bench to make room for Lita as David has shown that he can cover at right back. Oscar had the right starting line up, he simply got his bench wrong as it didn't offer much up front, IMHO. We know hat Oscar wants to ease Ulloa back in, and I get that, but I ask again, who would have come on had Barnes taken a knock in the first 15 minutes. You can't ease a player in and have him as cover for all events. VegasSeagull

3:58am Sun 22 Dec 13

Chi Gull says...

The usual array of wise after the event remarks. We don't need Lita and he's going back to Swansea. OG obviously doesn't rate him. To say we now have most of our players back fit is rubbish. We still have players out injured and others yet to get back to full match fitness. Barnes is a good finisher when he's on form - but that wasn't the case today, but you can't just blame him. Everyone raves about Ince and Bridcutt, but Ince has yet to score and Bridders hasn't scored for over 2 years. Agustein I don't think has ever scored a league goal in English football. Buckley can score goals but is having a poor season so far and lacks confidence. At least Barnes tries to score, at the moment Buckley wants extra touches and the ball on his right foot, by which time the chance has gone. It's no good fans getting on Barnes' back when he is all we have got.

It's right to bring back Ulloa slowly with so many game coming up. I would have started with KLL instead of Buckley - he is used to playing on the left whereas Buckley isn't and struggled. As stated above, I would have started with Crofts instead of either Lopez or Agustien - although I thought Lopez played well today. But OG is the manager and still learning what the best mix is given all the injuries etc. Crofts had been carrying a knock, so maybe he needed resting.

I am still happy with how the season is going. We have the same record as last season after 21 games..and if we get more than 2 points from the next 3 games we will be ahead of last season.
The usual array of wise after the event remarks. We don't need Lita and he's going back to Swansea. OG obviously doesn't rate him. To say we now have most of our players back fit is rubbish. We still have players out injured and others yet to get back to full match fitness. Barnes is a good finisher when he's on form - but that wasn't the case today, but you can't just blame him. Everyone raves about Ince and Bridcutt, but Ince has yet to score and Bridders hasn't scored for over 2 years. Agustein I don't think has ever scored a league goal in English football. Buckley can score goals but is having a poor season so far and lacks confidence. At least Barnes tries to score, at the moment Buckley wants extra touches and the ball on his right foot, by which time the chance has gone. It's no good fans getting on Barnes' back when he is all we have got. It's right to bring back Ulloa slowly with so many game coming up. I would have started with KLL instead of Buckley - he is used to playing on the left whereas Buckley isn't and struggled. As stated above, I would have started with Crofts instead of either Lopez or Agustien - although I thought Lopez played well today. But OG is the manager and still learning what the best mix is given all the injuries etc. Crofts had been carrying a knock, so maybe he needed resting. I am still happy with how the season is going. We have the same record as last season after 21 games..and if we get more than 2 points from the next 3 games we will be ahead of last season. Chi Gull

9:25am Sun 22 Dec 13

The Phantom says...

Chi Gull wrote:
The usual array of wise after the event remarks. We don't need Lita and he's going back to Swansea. OG obviously doesn't rate him. To say we now have most of our players back fit is rubbish. We still have players out injured and others yet to get back to full match fitness. Barnes is a good finisher when he's on form - but that wasn't the case today, but you can't just blame him. Everyone raves about Ince and Bridcutt, but Ince has yet to score and Bridders hasn't scored for over 2 years. Agustein I don't think has ever scored a league goal in English football. Buckley can score goals but is having a poor season so far and lacks confidence. At least Barnes tries to score, at the moment Buckley wants extra touches and the ball on his right foot, by which time the chance has gone. It's no good fans getting on Barnes' back when he is all we have got.

It's right to bring back Ulloa slowly with so many game coming up. I would have started with KLL instead of Buckley - he is used to playing on the left whereas Buckley isn't and struggled. As stated above, I would have started with Crofts instead of either Lopez or Agustien - although I thought Lopez played well today. But OG is the manager and still learning what the best mix is given all the injuries etc. Crofts had been carrying a knock, so maybe he needed resting.

I am still happy with how the season is going. We have the same record as last season after 21 games..and if we get more than 2 points from the next 3 games we will be ahead of last season.
Good post, although probably a tad harsh to comment that Ince has yet to score a goal bearing in mind that he has played relatively few games. Regarding Barnes, he was the one player yesterday who got on the end of anything with the exception of Kemy's header. Barnes has had a really good run of form recently - to castigate him yesterday for missing a couple of chances is pretty sad really. Interesting to hear however on the radio interview that Oscar was asked about the likelihood of Barnes going to Burnley. Crofts was left out because of the busy Christmas period and because he is one booking away from a suspension - would expect him to be back at Charlton. Buckley out of position and out of sorts at the moment. Lacks balance and guile when playing the left - has lost a bit of pace and confidence probably due to his injuries.
[quote][p][bold]Chi Gull[/bold] wrote: The usual array of wise after the event remarks. We don't need Lita and he's going back to Swansea. OG obviously doesn't rate him. To say we now have most of our players back fit is rubbish. We still have players out injured and others yet to get back to full match fitness. Barnes is a good finisher when he's on form - but that wasn't the case today, but you can't just blame him. Everyone raves about Ince and Bridcutt, but Ince has yet to score and Bridders hasn't scored for over 2 years. Agustein I don't think has ever scored a league goal in English football. Buckley can score goals but is having a poor season so far and lacks confidence. At least Barnes tries to score, at the moment Buckley wants extra touches and the ball on his right foot, by which time the chance has gone. It's no good fans getting on Barnes' back when he is all we have got. It's right to bring back Ulloa slowly with so many game coming up. I would have started with KLL instead of Buckley - he is used to playing on the left whereas Buckley isn't and struggled. As stated above, I would have started with Crofts instead of either Lopez or Agustien - although I thought Lopez played well today. But OG is the manager and still learning what the best mix is given all the injuries etc. Crofts had been carrying a knock, so maybe he needed resting. I am still happy with how the season is going. We have the same record as last season after 21 games..and if we get more than 2 points from the next 3 games we will be ahead of last season.[/p][/quote]Good post, although probably a tad harsh to comment that Ince has yet to score a goal bearing in mind that he has played relatively few games. Regarding Barnes, he was the one player yesterday who got on the end of anything with the exception of Kemy's header. Barnes has had a really good run of form recently - to castigate him yesterday for missing a couple of chances is pretty sad really. Interesting to hear however on the radio interview that Oscar was asked about the likelihood of Barnes going to Burnley. Crofts was left out because of the busy Christmas period and because he is one booking away from a suspension - would expect him to be back at Charlton. Buckley out of position and out of sorts at the moment. Lacks balance and guile when playing the left - has lost a bit of pace and confidence probably due to his injuries. The Phantom

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