Robins: Albion are still formidable at home

The Argus: Mark Robins Mark Robins

Huddersfield boss Mark Robins reckons taking an away point at The Amex is a decent achievement.

And he felt his side deserved their 0-0 draw against Albion yesterday.

The Seagulls have won just four of their first 12 games on home turf this term.

But Robins insists they are a tough proposition on their own patch.

He said: “These are a really top team in this division, make no mistake about it.

“They are one of the form sides. I’m pleased because we came here last year and got a 4-1 defeat for our troubles.

“It’s a long way to come, a really tough place to come. I’m delighted with the point.

“They had one clearcut chance that hit the lad (Ashley Barnes) and bounced over the bar.

“And a header at the far post, maybe the same player.

“Apart from that there wasn’t masses of opportunity for both sides in the game.”

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2:25pm Sun 22 Dec 13

ringtone says...

Yet more rubbish from an agrieved manager, Town where far the better team and should have won easily. UTT
Yet more rubbish from an agrieved manager, Town where far the better team and should have won easily. UTT ringtone

3:01pm Sun 22 Dec 13

championshipgull says...

It’s good to see us dominating teams but even more satisfying when we get the 3 points.
Bournemouth next up at the Amex so a good chance to get some beneficial home results rolling in. imho
It’s good to see us dominating teams but even more satisfying when we get the 3 points. Bournemouth next up at the Amex so a good chance to get some beneficial home results rolling in. imho championshipgull

3:05pm Sun 22 Dec 13

ringtone says...

championshipgull wrote:
It’s good to see us dominating teams but even more satisfying when we get the 3 points.
Bournemouth next up at the Amex so a good chance to get some beneficial home results rolling in. imho
Yes Bournemouth will be easy 6-0, 7-0 maybe more.

Until you learn the lesson it will continue to be sent and you will remain a championshipgull.
[quote][p][bold]championshipgull[/bold] wrote: It’s good to see us dominating teams but even more satisfying when we get the 3 points. Bournemouth next up at the Amex so a good chance to get some beneficial home results rolling in. imho[/p][/quote]Yes Bournemouth will be easy 6-0, 7-0 maybe more. Until you learn the lesson it will continue to be sent and you will remain a championshipgull. ringtone

3:16pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Neville says...

Have posted previously and much as I like OG his bench selections are far too negative. Yesterday again we had 4 defenders and just 2 attackers on the bench,why on earth didn't we put Lita on the bench instead of Andrews,Lita worth a final 20 mins at least.
Unless we start winning at home we can forget the play offs unfortunately.
Have posted previously and much as I like OG his bench selections are far too negative. Yesterday again we had 4 defenders and just 2 attackers on the bench,why on earth didn't we put Lita on the bench instead of Andrews,Lita worth a final 20 mins at least. Unless we start winning at home we can forget the play offs unfortunately. Neville

3:46pm Sun 22 Dec 13

mikeygit says...

Neville--agree in parts but I am convinced now that Lita will be back at his club never to be seen again by us. Hardly been used here--bit of a waste of a loan.
Neville--agree in parts but I am convinced now that Lita will be back at his club never to be seen again by us. Hardly been used here--bit of a waste of a loan. mikeygit

4:01pm Sun 22 Dec 13

albion64 says...

ringtone wrote:
Yet more rubbish from an agrieved manager, Town where far the better team and should have won easily. UTT
And how did your team Palarce get on?
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Yet more rubbish from an agrieved manager, Town where far the better team and should have won easily. UTT[/p][/quote]And how did your team Palarce get on? albion64

5:10pm Sun 22 Dec 13

championshipgull says...

Neville wrote:
Have posted previously and much as I like OG his bench selections are far too negative. Yesterday again we had 4 defenders and just 2 attackers on the bench,why on earth didn't we put Lita on the bench instead of Andrews,Lita worth a final 20 mins at least.
Unless we start winning at home we can forget the play offs unfortunately.
Don’t know where you are getting 4 defenders on the bench from Neville unless you are counting Andrews and Kuszczak. I’m not sure OG is convinced Ince is going to make the full 90min especially after coming off with cramp at Bournemouth and Bridcutt is not long back so to me it would seem reasonable to have Andrews on the bench as cover for them both. Perhaps OG thought he had enough attacking options with Crofts (attacking runs from midfield), Ulloa and LuaLua. Just my deliberations.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Have posted previously and much as I like OG his bench selections are far too negative. Yesterday again we had 4 defenders and just 2 attackers on the bench,why on earth didn't we put Lita on the bench instead of Andrews,Lita worth a final 20 mins at least. Unless we start winning at home we can forget the play offs unfortunately.[/p][/quote]Don’t know where you are getting 4 defenders on the bench from Neville unless you are counting Andrews and Kuszczak. I’m not sure OG is convinced Ince is going to make the full 90min especially after coming off with cramp at Bournemouth and Bridcutt is not long back so to me it would seem reasonable to have Andrews on the bench as cover for them both. Perhaps OG thought he had enough attacking options with Crofts (attacking runs from midfield), Ulloa and LuaLua. Just my deliberations. championshipgull

5:12pm Sun 22 Dec 13

brightonup says...

albion64 wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Yet more rubbish from an agrieved manager, Town where far the better team and should have won easily. UTT
And how did your team Palarce get on?
fishing ........
please don't bite
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Yet more rubbish from an agrieved manager, Town where far the better team and should have won easily. UTT[/p][/quote]And how did your team Palarce get on?[/p][/quote]fishing ........ please don't bite brightonup

5:14pm Sun 22 Dec 13

OldGull says...

ringtone wrote:
Yet more rubbish from an agrieved manager, Town where far the better team and should have won easily. UTT
At least you're not pretending to be an Albion supporter now.
Which is an improvement
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Yet more rubbish from an agrieved manager, Town where far the better team and should have won easily. UTT[/p][/quote]At least you're not pretending to be an Albion supporter now. Which is an improvement OldGull

5:26pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Thewithdeanyears says...

Never mind all the fuss, what we should be doing right now is making Robins the offer of a lifetime and lead us to the promised land. Oscar has had a fair crack and has failed to convince, Robins is the way forward, I like the cut of his jib and a progressional mover and shaker like the Albion should be thinking about tomorrow not today, time waits for no man and that includes Oscar. Let us come out of the darkness and step forward into the light.
Never mind all the fuss, what we should be doing right now is making Robins the offer of a lifetime and lead us to the promised land. Oscar has had a fair crack and has failed to convince, Robins is the way forward, I like the cut of his jib and a progressional mover and shaker like the Albion should be thinking about tomorrow not today, time waits for no man and that includes Oscar. Let us come out of the darkness and step forward into the light. Thewithdeanyears

5:56pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Vince says...

Thewithdeanyears wrote:
Never mind all the fuss, what we should be doing right now is making Robins the offer of a lifetime and lead us to the promised land. Oscar has had a fair crack and has failed to convince, Robins is the way forward, I like the cut of his jib and a progressional mover and shaker like the Albion should be thinking about tomorrow not today, time waits for no man and that includes Oscar. Let us come out of the darkness and step forward into the light.
Come on withered in years!!! The King - star of wonder (John Gregory former Seagulls star) is THE man for the job! Who else in the country could get Crawley to demolish the men from the Orient following yonder Russell Slade?

You are supporter of Crystal Poo-less, managed by Tony Poo-less, who probably got Gus Poo-yet the sack!
[quote][p][bold]Thewithdeanyears[/bold] wrote: Never mind all the fuss, what we should be doing right now is making Robins the offer of a lifetime and lead us to the promised land. Oscar has had a fair crack and has failed to convince, Robins is the way forward, I like the cut of his jib and a progressional mover and shaker like the Albion should be thinking about tomorrow not today, time waits for no man and that includes Oscar. Let us come out of the darkness and step forward into the light.[/p][/quote]Come on withered in years!!! The King - star of wonder (John Gregory former Seagulls star) is THE man for the job! Who else in the country could get Crawley to demolish the men from the Orient following yonder Russell Slade? You are supporter of Crystal Poo-less, managed by Tony Poo-less, who probably got Gus Poo-yet the sack! Vince

6:13pm Sun 22 Dec 13

OldGull says...

Thewithdeanyears wrote:
Never mind all the fuss, what we should be doing right now is making Robins the offer of a lifetime and lead us to the promised land. Oscar has had a fair crack and has failed to convince, Robins is the way forward, I like the cut of his jib and a progressional mover and shaker like the Albion should be thinking about tomorrow not today, time waits for no man and that includes Oscar. Let us come out of the darkness and step forward into the light.
If you want to see the light, take your head out of your A**e
[quote][p][bold]Thewithdeanyears[/bold] wrote: Never mind all the fuss, what we should be doing right now is making Robins the offer of a lifetime and lead us to the promised land. Oscar has had a fair crack and has failed to convince, Robins is the way forward, I like the cut of his jib and a progressional mover and shaker like the Albion should be thinking about tomorrow not today, time waits for no man and that includes Oscar. Let us come out of the darkness and step forward into the light.[/p][/quote]If you want to see the light, take your head out of your A**e OldGull

6:26pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Vince says...

Thewithdeanyears wrote:
Never mind all the fuss, what we should be doing right now is making Robins the offer of a lifetime and lead us to the promised land. Oscar has had a fair crack and has failed to convince, Robins is the way forward, I like the cut of his jib and a progressional mover and shaker like the Albion should be thinking about tomorrow not today, time waits for no man and that includes Oscar. Let us come out of the darkness and step forward into the light.
Star of wonder - star - Dick Knight
Oscar's royal (Tony) Bloom so bright
Upward leading - still proceeding
Guide us to the Premier Light
[quote][p][bold]Thewithdeanyears[/bold] wrote: Never mind all the fuss, what we should be doing right now is making Robins the offer of a lifetime and lead us to the promised land. Oscar has had a fair crack and has failed to convince, Robins is the way forward, I like the cut of his jib and a progressional mover and shaker like the Albion should be thinking about tomorrow not today, time waits for no man and that includes Oscar. Let us come out of the darkness and step forward into the light.[/p][/quote]Star of wonder - star - Dick Knight Oscar's royal (Tony) Bloom so bright Upward leading - still proceeding Guide us to the Premier Light Vince

6:34pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Vince says...

Thewithdeanyears wrote:
Never mind all the fuss, what we should be doing right now is making Robins the offer of a lifetime and lead us to the promised land. Oscar has had a fair crack and has failed to convince, Robins is the way forward, I like the cut of his jib and a progressional mover and shaker like the Albion should be thinking about tomorrow not today, time waits for no man and that includes Oscar. Let us come out of the darkness and step forward into the light.
Albion

Stars of wonder stars of Knight
Stars of Royal Bloom so bright
Oscar's leading - still proceeding
Guide us to the Premier Light
[quote][p][bold]Thewithdeanyears[/bold] wrote: Never mind all the fuss, what we should be doing right now is making Robins the offer of a lifetime and lead us to the promised land. Oscar has had a fair crack and has failed to convince, Robins is the way forward, I like the cut of his jib and a progressional mover and shaker like the Albion should be thinking about tomorrow not today, time waits for no man and that includes Oscar. Let us come out of the darkness and step forward into the light.[/p][/quote]Albion Stars of wonder stars of Knight Stars of Royal Bloom so bright Oscar's leading - still proceeding Guide us to the Premier Light Vince

7:06pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Neville says...

Championshipgull
To my mind Dunk,Andrews,Caldero
n and Crofts are primarily defensive players,I know Crofts can support the front line but only Lua Lua and Ulloa ,in my opinion can be classed as forwards.
I think it would have been worth a chance to have Lita on instead of Andrews or even Dunk who was probably never going to be given any minutes regardless,especiall
y at home and Barnes never ever looked like he would score.Lita may have got on a knock down or two from Ulloa.
I want us to win most of our home games but this constant possession in our own half when 0-0 just plays into the opposing teams hands,its ok when were winning but at home we are not getting enough points. Just my opinion.
Championshipgull To my mind Dunk,Andrews,Caldero n and Crofts are primarily defensive players,I know Crofts can support the front line but only Lua Lua and Ulloa ,in my opinion can be classed as forwards. I think it would have been worth a chance to have Lita on instead of Andrews or even Dunk who was probably never going to be given any minutes regardless,especiall y at home and Barnes never ever looked like he would score.Lita may have got on a knock down or two from Ulloa. I want us to win most of our home games but this constant possession in our own half when 0-0 just plays into the opposing teams hands,its ok when were winning but at home we are not getting enough points. Just my opinion. Neville

7:19pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Ringmer Rich says...

All that was missing yesterday was Vicente to cut their defence apart. The team played extremely well. I agree that Lita should have been on the bench, as I don't think Ulloa is ready yet. All that was missing was a little spark to ignite the crowd - Lualua did this to some extent when he came on.
All that was missing yesterday was Vicente to cut their defence apart. The team played extremely well. I agree that Lita should have been on the bench, as I don't think Ulloa is ready yet. All that was missing was a little spark to ignite the crowd - Lualua did this to some extent when he came on. Ringmer Rich

7:33pm Sun 22 Dec 13

Vince says...

Neville wrote:
Championshipgull To my mind Dunk,Andrews,Caldero n and Crofts are primarily defensive players,I know Crofts can support the front line but only Lua Lua and Ulloa ,in my opinion can be classed as forwards. I think it would have been worth a chance to have Lita on instead of Andrews or even Dunk who was probably never going to be given any minutes regardless,especiall y at home and Barnes never ever looked like he would score.Lita may have got on a knock down or two from Ulloa. I want us to win most of our home games but this constant possession in our own half when 0-0 just plays into the opposing teams hands,its ok when were winning but at home we are not getting enough points. Just my opinion.
I agree about Lita. After scoring at Doncaster he was fired-up. In the short time he was given against Watford he looked a real threat - and provided a stunning expertly executed hard low cross to Crofts for what was almost the winning goal.
The headline on the back of the Argus was something like LITA SAYS - JUST GIVE ME THE CHANCE" He was obviously up for it and really deserved to be given the chance - at least a full half. In my view it was a real opportunity passed up by the Albion, and by now we could have a player with premiership experience - a proven goalscorer - on board and desperate to play for us. Also the crowd seemed to instantly take to him.

Sorry Oscar - but I totally disagree with your decision not to even give him the chance!
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Championshipgull To my mind Dunk,Andrews,Caldero n and Crofts are primarily defensive players,I know Crofts can support the front line but only Lua Lua and Ulloa ,in my opinion can be classed as forwards. I think it would have been worth a chance to have Lita on instead of Andrews or even Dunk who was probably never going to be given any minutes regardless,especiall y at home and Barnes never ever looked like he would score.Lita may have got on a knock down or two from Ulloa. I want us to win most of our home games but this constant possession in our own half when 0-0 just plays into the opposing teams hands,its ok when were winning but at home we are not getting enough points. Just my opinion.[/p][/quote]I agree about Lita. After scoring at Doncaster he was fired-up. In the short time he was given against Watford he looked a real threat - and provided a stunning expertly executed hard low cross to Crofts for what was almost the winning goal. The headline on the back of the Argus was something like LITA SAYS - JUST GIVE ME THE CHANCE" He was obviously up for it and really deserved to be given the chance - at least a full half. In my view it was a real opportunity passed up by the Albion, and by now we could have a player with premiership experience - a proven goalscorer - on board and desperate to play for us. Also the crowd seemed to instantly take to him. Sorry Oscar - but I totally disagree with your decision not to even give him the chance! Vince

7:50pm Sun 22 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

For all intent and purposes we took to the park with just one striker, Barnes, as we didn't have a viable option on the bench, we set up like pre Lita days. Since Lita arrived I have not seen the need for him other than on the bench, Barnes has done well, but yesterday Barnes he was off target and we didn't have a half time change option.

It is very rare that you will see my write anything that goes against Oscar's decisions, under the circumstances I think he has worked wonders, but I don't understand his bench options of yesterday.

As it happens I don't have a problem with only getting a point off Huddersfield due to the fact that we won away from home last week. Had we drawn last week and won this week, I guess we would be saying, 'win your home games and draw the away matches and we make the playoffs,' well we did it in reverse, that's not a problem for me as it keeps us on course. Including yesterday's match I was hoping for 10 points from 12 over the Christmas-New year, we can still do that but we will need to beat Blackpool, a game I had down as a draw.

Ulloa sat on the bench with a self proclaimed 70% fitness level, I doubt that he will have improved much by Thursday and for that reason, Lita MUST be on the bench for the Charlton match, along with Ulloa.
For all intent and purposes we took to the park with just one striker, Barnes, as we didn't have a viable option on the bench, we set up like pre Lita days. Since Lita arrived I have not seen the need for him other than on the bench, Barnes has done well, but yesterday Barnes he was off target and we didn't have a half time change option. It is very rare that you will see my write anything that goes against Oscar's decisions, under the circumstances I think he has worked wonders, but I don't understand his bench options of yesterday. As it happens I don't have a problem with only getting a point off Huddersfield due to the fact that we won away from home last week. Had we drawn last week and won this week, I guess we would be saying, 'win your home games and draw the away matches and we make the playoffs,' well we did it in reverse, that's not a problem for me as it keeps us on course. Including yesterday's match I was hoping for 10 points from 12 over the Christmas-New year, we can still do that but we will need to beat Blackpool, a game I had down as a draw. Ulloa sat on the bench with a self proclaimed 70% fitness level, I doubt that he will have improved much by Thursday and for that reason, Lita MUST be on the bench for the Charlton match, along with Ulloa. VegasSeagull

7:53pm Sun 22 Dec 13

AlanDuffy says...

Ok, not the result we wanted...Huddersfiel
d not a bad side with a few decent players - Vaughan, Paterson and the sub with the locks - worked hard, think we probably deserved a 1-0, Barnes unlucky with the first chance, which could have gone anywhere, but really should have got the header on target, if so, goal. Positives.....Bruno'
s best game for ages, Incey did well, ( again ) Upson/El-Abd looking good, some nice touches from Kemy and of course, great to see Leo back. The chairman said the only business we'll do in January would be Lita, scrub that, think it'll be Conway, thought we missed him yesterday. Still in touch, on a good run, while others falter. Reckon we'll make the play-offs again.
Ok, not the result we wanted...Huddersfiel d not a bad side with a few decent players - Vaughan, Paterson and the sub with the locks - worked hard, think we probably deserved a 1-0, Barnes unlucky with the first chance, which could have gone anywhere, but really should have got the header on target, if so, goal. Positives.....Bruno' s best game for ages, Incey did well, ( again ) Upson/El-Abd looking good, some nice touches from Kemy and of course, great to see Leo back. The chairman said the only business we'll do in January would be Lita, scrub that, think it'll be Conway, thought we missed him yesterday. Still in touch, on a good run, while others falter. Reckon we'll make the play-offs again. AlanDuffy

7:56pm Sun 22 Dec 13

B rian Tawses left foot says...

ringtone says...

Yet more rubbish from an agrieved manager, Town where far the better team and should have won easily. UTT.

aggrieved - not agrieved
ringtone says... Yet more rubbish from an agrieved manager, Town where far the better team and should have won easily. UTT. aggrieved - not agrieved B rian Tawses left foot

8:51pm Sun 22 Dec 13

wiseman of hove says...

The lack of Lita is certainly odd. A seasoned and proven goalscorer so is it an 'attitude' issue or training issue?
Like most posters, I'm very happy with Oscar and how he conducts himself. I just wish he would throw a bit of caution to the wind when we play the likes of Barnsley and Huddersfield. Do we need to stick with the lone striker? I didn't see the match but I gather Tim Sherwood easily worked out today that Soton were there for the taking, and with Adebayor and Soldano (Defoe) as two strikers, grabbed three points. For Charlton, why not start with Lita and Barnes, with Ulloa on the bench?
The lack of Lita is certainly odd. A seasoned and proven goalscorer so is it an 'attitude' issue or training issue? Like most posters, I'm very happy with Oscar and how he conducts himself. I just wish he would throw a bit of caution to the wind when we play the likes of Barnsley and Huddersfield. Do we need to stick with the lone striker? I didn't see the match but I gather Tim Sherwood easily worked out today that Soton were there for the taking, and with Adebayor and Soldano (Defoe) as two strikers, grabbed three points. For Charlton, why not start with Lita and Barnes, with Ulloa on the bench? wiseman of hove

9:11pm Sun 22 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

wiseman of hove wrote:
The lack of Lita is certainly odd. A seasoned and proven goalscorer so is it an 'attitude' issue or training issue?
Like most posters, I'm very happy with Oscar and how he conducts himself. I just wish he would throw a bit of caution to the wind when we play the likes of Barnsley and Huddersfield. Do we need to stick with the lone striker? I didn't see the match but I gather Tim Sherwood easily worked out today that Soton were there for the taking, and with Adebayor and Soldano (Defoe) as two strikers, grabbed three points. For Charlton, why not start with Lita and Barnes, with Ulloa on the bench?
Yes we could start with two strikers but either Ince or Bridcutt would have to make room for the extra striker, no point in having two strikers start if we don't have a play maker in midfield to help serve them.
[quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: The lack of Lita is certainly odd. A seasoned and proven goalscorer so is it an 'attitude' issue or training issue? Like most posters, I'm very happy with Oscar and how he conducts himself. I just wish he would throw a bit of caution to the wind when we play the likes of Barnsley and Huddersfield. Do we need to stick with the lone striker? I didn't see the match but I gather Tim Sherwood easily worked out today that Soton were there for the taking, and with Adebayor and Soldano (Defoe) as two strikers, grabbed three points. For Charlton, why not start with Lita and Barnes, with Ulloa on the bench?[/p][/quote]Yes we could start with two strikers but either Ince or Bridcutt would have to make room for the extra striker, no point in having two strikers start if we don't have a play maker in midfield to help serve them. VegasSeagull

9:44pm Sun 22 Dec 13

wiseman of hove says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
wiseman of hove wrote:
The lack of Lita is certainly odd. A seasoned and proven goalscorer so is it an 'attitude' issue or training issue?
Like most posters, I'm very happy with Oscar and how he conducts himself. I just wish he would throw a bit of caution to the wind when we play the likes of Barnsley and Huddersfield. Do we need to stick with the lone striker? I didn't see the match but I gather Tim Sherwood easily worked out today that Soton were there for the taking, and with Adebayor and Soldano (Defoe) as two strikers, grabbed three points. For Charlton, why not start with Lita and Barnes, with Ulloa on the bench?
Yes we could start with two strikers but either Ince or Bridcutt would have to make room for the extra striker, no point in having two strikers start if we don't have a play maker in midfield to help serve them.
Not sure I'd categorise Bridcutt or Ince as out and out 'playmakers' Vegas - more the likes of Orlandi and perhaps David and Augustein. Sadly, we have no Orlandi so currently we cannot put together the ideal team. But Charlton are third from bottom!
LuaLua would start for me with Lita and Barnes and then three from Bridcutt, Ince, Crofts, David and Augustein.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: The lack of Lita is certainly odd. A seasoned and proven goalscorer so is it an 'attitude' issue or training issue? Like most posters, I'm very happy with Oscar and how he conducts himself. I just wish he would throw a bit of caution to the wind when we play the likes of Barnsley and Huddersfield. Do we need to stick with the lone striker? I didn't see the match but I gather Tim Sherwood easily worked out today that Soton were there for the taking, and with Adebayor and Soldano (Defoe) as two strikers, grabbed three points. For Charlton, why not start with Lita and Barnes, with Ulloa on the bench?[/p][/quote]Yes we could start with two strikers but either Ince or Bridcutt would have to make room for the extra striker, no point in having two strikers start if we don't have a play maker in midfield to help serve them.[/p][/quote]Not sure I'd categorise Bridcutt or Ince as out and out 'playmakers' Vegas - more the likes of Orlandi and perhaps David and Augustein. Sadly, we have no Orlandi so currently we cannot put together the ideal team. But Charlton are third from bottom! LuaLua would start for me with Lita and Barnes and then three from Bridcutt, Ince, Crofts, David and Augustein. wiseman of hove

10:17pm Sun 22 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

wiseman of hove wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
wiseman of hove wrote:
The lack of Lita is certainly odd. A seasoned and proven goalscorer so is it an 'attitude' issue or training issue?
Like most posters, I'm very happy with Oscar and how he conducts himself. I just wish he would throw a bit of caution to the wind when we play the likes of Barnsley and Huddersfield. Do we need to stick with the lone striker? I didn't see the match but I gather Tim Sherwood easily worked out today that Soton were there for the taking, and with Adebayor and Soldano (Defoe) as two strikers, grabbed three points. For Charlton, why not start with Lita and Barnes, with Ulloa on the bench?
Yes we could start with two strikers but either Ince or Bridcutt would have to make room for the extra striker, no point in having two strikers start if we don't have a play maker in midfield to help serve them.
Not sure I'd categorise Bridcutt or Ince as out and out 'playmakers' Vegas - more the likes of Orlandi and perhaps David and Augustein. Sadly, we have no Orlandi so currently we cannot put together the ideal team. But Charlton are third from bottom!
LuaLua would start for me with Lita and Barnes and then three from Bridcutt, Ince, Crofts, David and Augustein.
Yes I agree, my point being, because neither of them is a midfield play maker, one would have to stand down to make way for a play maker.
[quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: The lack of Lita is certainly odd. A seasoned and proven goalscorer so is it an 'attitude' issue or training issue? Like most posters, I'm very happy with Oscar and how he conducts himself. I just wish he would throw a bit of caution to the wind when we play the likes of Barnsley and Huddersfield. Do we need to stick with the lone striker? I didn't see the match but I gather Tim Sherwood easily worked out today that Soton were there for the taking, and with Adebayor and Soldano (Defoe) as two strikers, grabbed three points. For Charlton, why not start with Lita and Barnes, with Ulloa on the bench?[/p][/quote]Yes we could start with two strikers but either Ince or Bridcutt would have to make room for the extra striker, no point in having two strikers start if we don't have a play maker in midfield to help serve them.[/p][/quote]Not sure I'd categorise Bridcutt or Ince as out and out 'playmakers' Vegas - more the likes of Orlandi and perhaps David and Augustein. Sadly, we have no Orlandi so currently we cannot put together the ideal team. But Charlton are third from bottom! LuaLua would start for me with Lita and Barnes and then three from Bridcutt, Ince, Crofts, David and Augustein.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree, my point being, because neither of them is a midfield play maker, one would have to stand down to make way for a play maker. VegasSeagull

10:21pm Sun 22 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
wiseman of hove wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
wiseman of hove wrote:
The lack of Lita is certainly odd. A seasoned and proven goalscorer so is it an 'attitude' issue or training issue?
Like most posters, I'm very happy with Oscar and how he conducts himself. I just wish he would throw a bit of caution to the wind when we play the likes of Barnsley and Huddersfield. Do we need to stick with the lone striker? I didn't see the match but I gather Tim Sherwood easily worked out today that Soton were there for the taking, and with Adebayor and Soldano (Defoe) as two strikers, grabbed three points. For Charlton, why not start with Lita and Barnes, with Ulloa on the bench?
Yes we could start with two strikers but either Ince or Bridcutt would have to make room for the extra striker, no point in having two strikers start if we don't have a play maker in midfield to help serve them.
Not sure I'd categorise Bridcutt or Ince as out and out 'playmakers' Vegas - more the likes of Orlandi and perhaps David and Augustein. Sadly, we have no Orlandi so currently we cannot put together the ideal team. But Charlton are third from bottom!
LuaLua would start for me with Lita and Barnes and then three from Bridcutt, Ince, Crofts, David and Augustein.
Yes I agree, my point being, because neither of them is a midfield play maker, one would have to stand down to make way for a play maker.
I need to be clear on what I am trying to convey.

Ince stands down and in comes an extra striker, that striker is supported by one wide player and two in midfield, as you say, an Orlandi type.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: The lack of Lita is certainly odd. A seasoned and proven goalscorer so is it an 'attitude' issue or training issue? Like most posters, I'm very happy with Oscar and how he conducts himself. I just wish he would throw a bit of caution to the wind when we play the likes of Barnsley and Huddersfield. Do we need to stick with the lone striker? I didn't see the match but I gather Tim Sherwood easily worked out today that Soton were there for the taking, and with Adebayor and Soldano (Defoe) as two strikers, grabbed three points. For Charlton, why not start with Lita and Barnes, with Ulloa on the bench?[/p][/quote]Yes we could start with two strikers but either Ince or Bridcutt would have to make room for the extra striker, no point in having two strikers start if we don't have a play maker in midfield to help serve them.[/p][/quote]Not sure I'd categorise Bridcutt or Ince as out and out 'playmakers' Vegas - more the likes of Orlandi and perhaps David and Augustein. Sadly, we have no Orlandi so currently we cannot put together the ideal team. But Charlton are third from bottom! LuaLua would start for me with Lita and Barnes and then three from Bridcutt, Ince, Crofts, David and Augustein.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree, my point being, because neither of them is a midfield play maker, one would have to stand down to make way for a play maker.[/p][/quote]I need to be clear on what I am trying to convey. Ince stands down and in comes an extra striker, that striker is supported by one wide player and two in midfield, as you say, an Orlandi type. VegasSeagull

12:45am Mon 23 Dec 13

Claude Back says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
wiseman of hove wrote:
The lack of Lita is certainly odd. A seasoned and proven goalscorer so is it an 'attitude' issue or training issue?
Like most posters, I'm very happy with Oscar and how he conducts himself. I just wish he would throw a bit of caution to the wind when we play the likes of Barnsley and Huddersfield. Do we need to stick with the lone striker? I didn't see the match but I gather Tim Sherwood easily worked out today that Soton were there for the taking, and with Adebayor and Soldano (Defoe) as two strikers, grabbed three points. For Charlton, why not start with Lita and Barnes, with Ulloa on the bench?
Yes we could start with two strikers but either Ince or Bridcutt would have to make room for the extra striker, no point in having two strikers start if we don't have a play maker in midfield to help serve them.
Conversely, what's the point of having a play-maker with nobody to play to?
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: The lack of Lita is certainly odd. A seasoned and proven goalscorer so is it an 'attitude' issue or training issue? Like most posters, I'm very happy with Oscar and how he conducts himself. I just wish he would throw a bit of caution to the wind when we play the likes of Barnsley and Huddersfield. Do we need to stick with the lone striker? I didn't see the match but I gather Tim Sherwood easily worked out today that Soton were there for the taking, and with Adebayor and Soldano (Defoe) as two strikers, grabbed three points. For Charlton, why not start with Lita and Barnes, with Ulloa on the bench?[/p][/quote]Yes we could start with two strikers but either Ince or Bridcutt would have to make room for the extra striker, no point in having two strikers start if we don't have a play maker in midfield to help serve them.[/p][/quote]Conversely, what's the point of having a play-maker with nobody to play to? Claude Back

1:57am Mon 23 Dec 13

Vince says...

Claude Back wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
wiseman of hove wrote: The lack of Lita is certainly odd. A seasoned and proven goalscorer so is it an 'attitude' issue or training issue? Like most posters, I'm very happy with Oscar and how he conducts himself. I just wish he would throw a bit of caution to the wind when we play the likes of Barnsley and Huddersfield. Do we need to stick with the lone striker? I didn't see the match but I gather Tim Sherwood easily worked out today that Soton were there for the taking, and with Adebayor and Soldano (Defoe) as two strikers, grabbed three points. For Charlton, why not start with Lita and Barnes, with Ulloa on the bench?
Yes we could start with two strikers but either Ince or Bridcutt would have to make room for the extra striker, no point in having two strikers start if we don't have a play maker in midfield to help serve them.
Conversely, what's the point of having a play-maker with nobody to play to?
I totally agree Claude - we had loads of possession with some excellent approach work by Lopez, Agustein and Bruno but only Barnes to pass to
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wiseman of hove[/bold] wrote: The lack of Lita is certainly odd. A seasoned and proven goalscorer so is it an 'attitude' issue or training issue? Like most posters, I'm very happy with Oscar and how he conducts himself. I just wish he would throw a bit of caution to the wind when we play the likes of Barnsley and Huddersfield. Do we need to stick with the lone striker? I didn't see the match but I gather Tim Sherwood easily worked out today that Soton were there for the taking, and with Adebayor and Soldano (Defoe) as two strikers, grabbed three points. For Charlton, why not start with Lita and Barnes, with Ulloa on the bench?[/p][/quote]Yes we could start with two strikers but either Ince or Bridcutt would have to make room for the extra striker, no point in having two strikers start if we don't have a play maker in midfield to help serve them.[/p][/quote]Conversely, what's the point of having a play-maker with nobody to play to?[/p][/quote]I totally agree Claude - we had loads of possession with some excellent approach work by Lopez, Agustein and Bruno but only Barnes to pass to Vince

6:49am Mon 23 Dec 13

mtmoocher says...

If Lita was impressing with his commitment & attitude in training, as a top player should, he would be starting every game. That should be obvious to all. I believe the only club interesting him is Stringfellow's & week-end football would get in the way of his training plans! lol.
If Lita was impressing with his commitment & attitude in training, as a top player should, he would be starting every game. That should be obvious to all. I believe the only club interesting him is Stringfellow's & week-end football would get in the way of his training plans! lol. mtmoocher

8:24am Mon 23 Dec 13

9 of us says...

albion64 wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Yet more rubbish from an agrieved manager, Town where far the better team and should have won easily. UTT
And how did your team Palarce get on?
I believe they lost 3-0, could be wrong but don't give a toss what those elsewhere do.
There are many sad lonely individuals out there, who get a buzz out of behaving in a certain manner and just can't stop posting on other fans sites.
Without them it would be boring as are so many of the "play like that at home and we can forget the play offs" posts.
Everyone has their opinion, but for christs' sake try and be original, constructive and don't sound off like you have all the answers. It's easy to sit indoors or at work, post your comments and remain anonymous, not so easy for the team and management to be expected to get it right each time in front of a audience.
Happy Xmas and try and have a good and positive New Year.
[quote][p][bold]albion64[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Yet more rubbish from an agrieved manager, Town where far the better team and should have won easily. UTT[/p][/quote]And how did your team Palarce get on?[/p][/quote]I believe they lost 3-0, could be wrong but don't give a toss what those elsewhere do. There are many sad lonely individuals out there, who get a buzz out of behaving in a certain manner and just can't stop posting on other fans sites. Without them it would be boring as are so many of the "play like that at home and we can forget the play offs" posts. Everyone has their opinion, but for christs' sake try and be original, constructive and don't sound off like you have all the answers. It's easy to sit indoors or at work, post your comments and remain anonymous, not so easy for the team and management to be expected to get it right each time in front of a audience. Happy Xmas and try and have a good and positive New Year. 9 of us

1:42pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Simbosims says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
ringtone says... Yet more rubbish from an agrieved manager, Town where far the better team and should have won easily. UTT. aggrieved - not agrieved
Were not Where.

UTA.
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: ringtone says... Yet more rubbish from an agrieved manager, Town where far the better team and should have won easily. UTT. aggrieved - not agrieved[/p][/quote]Were not Where. UTA. Simbosims

12:58am Tue 24 Dec 13

Cap'n Pugwash says...

ringtone wrote:
Yet more rubbish from an agrieved manager, Town where far the better team and should have won easily. UTT
Hey Ringpiece-get a life.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Yet more rubbish from an agrieved manager, Town where far the better team and should have won easily. UTT[/p][/quote]Hey Ringpiece-get a life. Cap'n Pugwash

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