Lita set to bow out quietly

The Argus: Leroy Lita celebrates his only Albion goal to date, at Doncaster Leroy Lita celebrates his only Albion goal to date, at Doncaster

Leroy Lita is poised for a low key finale to his loan spell with Albion.

The much-travelled striker is unlikely to be in the matchday squad again for the Boxing Day trip to one of his former clubs Charlton.

The form of Ashley Barnes during the absence through injury of Leo Ulloa restricted Lita to a handful of substitute appearances since signing on loan from Swansea in October.

Ulloa's return to the bench for the last two matches after recovering from a foot fracture had prompted Lita's exclusion from the squad.

Lita, 29, this Saturday, has not featured since the home defeat by Barnsley on December 3.

His loan stint with the Seagulls is scheduled to end with Bournemouth's visit on New Year's Day.

Lita scored three goals in eight games on loan to Charlton from Reading in 2008.

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12:14pm Tue 24 Dec 13

mrgull says...

Leroy Lita is unlikely to play for us again....Bridcutt is likely to leave us ....and we are still interested in injury prone Jonathan Obika .....Trying to keep optimistic isn't easy
Leroy Lita is unlikely to play for us again....Bridcutt is likely to leave us ....and we are still interested in injury prone Jonathan Obika .....Trying to keep optimistic isn't easy mrgull

12:40pm Tue 24 Dec 13

BHAFC_SHAUN says...

From the outside looking in, you've got to feel sorry for the guy. He came here because he expected to get plenty of game time and probably to put himself in the shop window for January. He isn't getting a look in at Swansea so he know his time there is up, now he will have to hope one of the other clubs we beat to sign him on loan comes back in for him.

Fair play to digger and Oscar though. Oscar was clear that in that he was brought in as cover for Leo and digger has scored and played well enough to keep him out the team. Just feel a bit sorry for the lad really
From the outside looking in, you've got to feel sorry for the guy. He came here because he expected to get plenty of game time and probably to put himself in the shop window for January. He isn't getting a look in at Swansea so he know his time there is up, now he will have to hope one of the other clubs we beat to sign him on loan comes back in for him. Fair play to digger and Oscar though. Oscar was clear that in that he was brought in as cover for Leo and digger has scored and played well enough to keep him out the team. Just feel a bit sorry for the lad really BHAFC_SHAUN

1:25pm Tue 24 Dec 13

russellsnr says...

I think Mr Naylor is not getting what he wanted for Christmas so is trying trying to spoil everyone else's
Any good news ?
I think Mr Naylor is not getting what he wanted for Christmas so is trying trying to spoil everyone else's Any good news ? russellsnr

2:00pm Tue 24 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

Lita had one role, and one role only, that was to be ready fit and able to replace Barnes should he get injured and nothing more, he was the cover for the only striker we had fit. Lita served his purpose and thankfully we didn't have to call on him. I thought his omission from the bench last Saturday was a tad odd, Ulloa only 70% fit stamina wise, but that was the choice that Oscar made. There are a few teams in the bottom eight of our division that might fancy availing themselves of his services.
Lita had one role, and one role only, that was to be ready fit and able to replace Barnes should he get injured and nothing more, he was the cover for the only striker we had fit. Lita served his purpose and thankfully we didn't have to call on him. I thought his omission from the bench last Saturday was a tad odd, Ulloa only 70% fit stamina wise, but that was the choice that Oscar made. There are a few teams in the bottom eight of our division that might fancy availing themselves of his services. VegasSeagull

2:22pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Neville says...

Ridiculous state of affairs regarding Lita,it was pretty obvious to most that the bench on Saturday lacked ambition with GK,4 defensive minded players and 2 strikers for a home match which we needed to win. Lita should have come on for Barnes last Saturday and linked with Ulloa,especially at home. We never looked like scoring,especially Barnes, so why not bring on Lita who could have snatched a goal. He is a proven scorer but has never been given a chance, players don't come on loan to be a back up they come to play games and put themselves in the shop window for January.
Much as I respect OG he really does need to get his act together for home games,possession in our own half for the majority of the game hurts no team,ok if we are winning but we just are not gaining enough points at home,fact.May well cost us dear at the end of season.
Ridiculous state of affairs regarding Lita,it was pretty obvious to most that the bench on Saturday lacked ambition with GK,4 defensive minded players and 2 strikers for a home match which we needed to win. Lita should have come on for Barnes last Saturday and linked with Ulloa,especially at home. We never looked like scoring,especially Barnes, so why not bring on Lita who could have snatched a goal. He is a proven scorer but has never been given a chance, players don't come on loan to be a back up they come to play games and put themselves in the shop window for January. Much as I respect OG he really does need to get his act together for home games,possession in our own half for the majority of the game hurts no team,ok if we are winning but we just are not gaining enough points at home,fact.May well cost us dear at the end of season. Neville

2:45pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Falmer Wizard says...

I had expected at least a couple of games that Lita would have been used with Barnes particulary as we have not been finding the net too often,a chance missed for him and the club.
I had expected at least a couple of games that Lita would have been used with Barnes particulary as we have not been finding the net too often,a chance missed for him and the club. Falmer Wizard

2:47pm Tue 24 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

Neville wrote:
Ridiculous state of affairs regarding Lita,it was pretty obvious to most that the bench on Saturday lacked ambition with GK,4 defensive minded players and 2 strikers for a home match which we needed to win. Lita should have come on for Barnes last Saturday and linked with Ulloa,especially at home. We never looked like scoring,especially Barnes, so why not bring on Lita who could have snatched a goal. He is a proven scorer but has never been given a chance, players don't come on loan to be a back up they come to play games and put themselves in the shop window for January.
Much as I respect OG he really does need to get his act together for home games,possession in our own half for the majority of the game hurts no team,ok if we are winning but we just are not gaining enough points at home,fact.May well cost us dear at the end of season.
It is only now, with the returning Ullo being available that Lita could realistically be considered to start a match, Barnes was the first choice striker and Lita was cover, period.
Now you might be able to mount a case for dropping Barnes and playing Lita in his place during Ulloa's absence, but then you would have to say that he would have scored more goals than Barnes has during that period. Barnes and Crofts have played a lot of matches together, did that fact come into play in bringing about Crofts 5 goals, would he have got them with Lita on the park rather than Barnes.
Speculation is great but points on the board are better and we have a good points tally considering all the problems we have had.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Ridiculous state of affairs regarding Lita,it was pretty obvious to most that the bench on Saturday lacked ambition with GK,4 defensive minded players and 2 strikers for a home match which we needed to win. Lita should have come on for Barnes last Saturday and linked with Ulloa,especially at home. We never looked like scoring,especially Barnes, so why not bring on Lita who could have snatched a goal. He is a proven scorer but has never been given a chance, players don't come on loan to be a back up they come to play games and put themselves in the shop window for January. Much as I respect OG he really does need to get his act together for home games,possession in our own half for the majority of the game hurts no team,ok if we are winning but we just are not gaining enough points at home,fact.May well cost us dear at the end of season.[/p][/quote]It is only now, with the returning Ullo being available that Lita could realistically be considered to start a match, Barnes was the first choice striker and Lita was cover, period. Now you might be able to mount a case for dropping Barnes and playing Lita in his place during Ulloa's absence, but then you would have to say that he would have scored more goals than Barnes has during that period. Barnes and Crofts have played a lot of matches together, did that fact come into play in bringing about Crofts 5 goals, would he have got them with Lita on the park rather than Barnes. Speculation is great but points on the board are better and we have a good points tally considering all the problems we have had. VegasSeagull

2:52pm Tue 24 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

Falmer Wizard wrote:
I had expected at least a couple of games that Lita would have been used with Barnes particulary as we have not been finding the net too often,a chance missed for him and the club.
With only two fit strikers you would have risked them both in the same match, or matches, who would you have turned to had one of them got injured or picked up a red card?
[quote][p][bold]Falmer Wizard[/bold] wrote: I had expected at least a couple of games that Lita would have been used with Barnes particulary as we have not been finding the net too often,a chance missed for him and the club.[/p][/quote]With only two fit strikers you would have risked them both in the same match, or matches, who would you have turned to had one of them got injured or picked up a red card? VegasSeagull

3:07pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Neville says...

Hi Vegas,
We have Barnes and Ulloa plus Lita as strikers,then we have Buckley ,Lua Lua and lets not forget Solly March plus one or two development squad prospects.
I suspect we will get Conway back in a couple of weeks,so a little ambition was needed against Huddersfield,I personally would have liked to have seen Ulloa and Lita together 9little and large combination often very effective) anyway there was nothing to lose againast Huddersfield,Barnes could still be playing now and still not have scored. A hardworking team member agreed but a goal scoring predator no.
Hi Vegas, We have Barnes and Ulloa plus Lita as strikers,then we have Buckley ,Lua Lua and lets not forget Solly March plus one or two development squad prospects. I suspect we will get Conway back in a couple of weeks,so a little ambition was needed against Huddersfield,I personally would have liked to have seen Ulloa and Lita together 9little and large combination often very effective) anyway there was nothing to lose againast Huddersfield,Barnes could still be playing now and still not have scored. A hardworking team member agreed but a goal scoring predator no. Neville

3:12pm Tue 24 Dec 13

albion64 says...

mrgull wrote:
Leroy Lita is unlikely to play for us again....Bridcutt is likely to leave us ....and we are still interested in injury prone Jonathan Obika .....Trying to keep optimistic isn't easy
I agree. why you got 6 dislikes for this post baffles me also.
[quote][p][bold]mrgull[/bold] wrote: Leroy Lita is unlikely to play for us again....Bridcutt is likely to leave us ....and we are still interested in injury prone Jonathan Obika .....Trying to keep optimistic isn't easy[/p][/quote]I agree. why you got 6 dislikes for this post baffles me also. albion64

3:14pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Neville says...

Vegas again
We do not have a good home points tally and this is where promotion is won,not just away results.GP was the same with bench selection and OG, in my opinion needs to be more ambitious. Apart from a couple of Barnes misses we never looked like scoring last Saturday, same for numerous home matches this season. Unless we start hitting a consistent run of home wins the play offs will not beckon.
Another point Crofts has scored 5 yes but the other midfielders with the rare occasion do not contribute goals unfortunately.
Vegas again We do not have a good home points tally and this is where promotion is won,not just away results.GP was the same with bench selection and OG, in my opinion needs to be more ambitious. Apart from a couple of Barnes misses we never looked like scoring last Saturday, same for numerous home matches this season. Unless we start hitting a consistent run of home wins the play offs will not beckon. Another point Crofts has scored 5 yes but the other midfielders with the rare occasion do not contribute goals unfortunately. Neville

3:36pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Claude Back says...

Neville wrote:
Ridiculous state of affairs regarding Lita,it was pretty obvious to most that the bench on Saturday lacked ambition with GK,4 defensive minded players and 2 strikers for a home match which we needed to win. Lita should have come on for Barnes last Saturday and linked with Ulloa,especially at home. We never looked like scoring,especially Barnes, so why not bring on Lita who could have snatched a goal. He is a proven scorer but has never been given a chance, players don't come on loan to be a back up they come to play games and put themselves in the shop window for January.
Much as I respect OG he really does need to get his act together for home games,possession in our own half for the majority of the game hurts no team,ok if we are winning but we just are not gaining enough points at home,fact.May well cost us dear at the end of season.
Once again, Neville, the voice of sanity.
Lita was not a direct replacement for Barnes and that is a fact no matter what Vegas says. If he lived locally he would know that. They are entirely different types of players for a start. It's Oscar's reluctance, or stubbornness to play two strikers that prevented Lita from getting a game, coupled with the fact that Oscar didn't actually sign him.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Ridiculous state of affairs regarding Lita,it was pretty obvious to most that the bench on Saturday lacked ambition with GK,4 defensive minded players and 2 strikers for a home match which we needed to win. Lita should have come on for Barnes last Saturday and linked with Ulloa,especially at home. We never looked like scoring,especially Barnes, so why not bring on Lita who could have snatched a goal. He is a proven scorer but has never been given a chance, players don't come on loan to be a back up they come to play games and put themselves in the shop window for January. Much as I respect OG he really does need to get his act together for home games,possession in our own half for the majority of the game hurts no team,ok if we are winning but we just are not gaining enough points at home,fact.May well cost us dear at the end of season.[/p][/quote]Once again, Neville, the voice of sanity. Lita was not a direct replacement for Barnes and that is a fact no matter what Vegas says. If he lived locally he would know that. They are entirely different types of players for a start. It's Oscar's reluctance, or stubbornness to play two strikers that prevented Lita from getting a game, coupled with the fact that Oscar didn't actually sign him. Claude Back

3:37pm Tue 24 Dec 13

tug509 says...

Crazy situation ,i feel sorry for the guy ,i dont think we have done him or ourselves any favours . Against Huddersfield ,i think we had them at arms length ,and all that was needed for all 3 points was a enough courage to take the risk of putting Lita up front with Leo ,i honestly think we would have got a couple . We have another chance on Boxing day ,i Hope we show willingness to put an attacking side on the pitch ,we will have great support at The Valley ,with the greatest of respect to Charlton ,with the problems they are going through ,this is our game to lose !. UTA
Crazy situation ,i feel sorry for the guy ,i dont think we have done him or ourselves any favours . Against Huddersfield ,i think we had them at arms length ,and all that was needed for all 3 points was a enough courage to take the risk of putting Lita up front with Leo ,i honestly think we would have got a couple . We have another chance on Boxing day ,i Hope we show willingness to put an attacking side on the pitch ,we will have great support at The Valley ,with the greatest of respect to Charlton ,with the problems they are going through ,this is our game to lose !. UTA tug509

3:44pm Tue 24 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

Neville wrote:
Vegas again
We do not have a good home points tally and this is where promotion is won,not just away results.GP was the same with bench selection and OG, in my opinion needs to be more ambitious. Apart from a couple of Barnes misses we never looked like scoring last Saturday, same for numerous home matches this season. Unless we start hitting a consistent run of home wins the play offs will not beckon.
Another point Crofts has scored 5 yes but the other midfielders with the rare occasion do not contribute goals unfortunately.
Hi Neville, I wish you and yours a happy Christmas, and the same to all those that comment on this site, and to the guys at the Argus.

Nev, when I talk of strikers I am always thinking of out and out strikers and not wide players that can drift in. Kaz and Buckley, in my thinking, are not strikers, both are wide players that can find the target when on form. As true strikers we have Ulloa and Barnes, and some would say not even Barnes as he is a utility striker, and then we have CMS. Lita was always meant as cover, but I still don't get why he wasn't on the bench last week.

Our home form, for some weird reason, is not as good as our away form, it's like the expectations have been reversed. Win away and draw at home, as crazy as that might seem, at least we are picking up points. To win at home and draw away would suit most, especially if we can win a few away, now we are talking of winning away and hoping to pick up extra wins at home, it's odd but not unknown, other clubs have been thru this situation.

We have to accept that right now we only have two senior strikers and one of them isn't fully match fit so Lita has that covering role, but we are also continuing with a single striker approach, so again Lita doesn't get a look in. I have said several times, until we know about CMS and his return, we will not sign a new striker, the likes of Lita will stay on the bench if CMS is close to returning but might figure to a greater extent if CMS is done and dusted for this season. Sign Conway, Ulloa up front and Barnes as an attacking midfield player, Lita on the bench, that makes sense to me. The lone striker approach really only needs 3 strikers available, so Solly will struggle this year to get playing time.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Vegas again We do not have a good home points tally and this is where promotion is won,not just away results.GP was the same with bench selection and OG, in my opinion needs to be more ambitious. Apart from a couple of Barnes misses we never looked like scoring last Saturday, same for numerous home matches this season. Unless we start hitting a consistent run of home wins the play offs will not beckon. Another point Crofts has scored 5 yes but the other midfielders with the rare occasion do not contribute goals unfortunately.[/p][/quote]Hi Neville, I wish you and yours a happy Christmas, and the same to all those that comment on this site, and to the guys at the Argus. Nev, when I talk of strikers I am always thinking of out and out strikers and not wide players that can drift in. Kaz and Buckley, in my thinking, are not strikers, both are wide players that can find the target when on form. As true strikers we have Ulloa and Barnes, and some would say not even Barnes as he is a utility striker, and then we have CMS. Lita was always meant as cover, but I still don't get why he wasn't on the bench last week. Our home form, for some weird reason, is not as good as our away form, it's like the expectations have been reversed. Win away and draw at home, as crazy as that might seem, at least we are picking up points. To win at home and draw away would suit most, especially if we can win a few away, now we are talking of winning away and hoping to pick up extra wins at home, it's odd but not unknown, other clubs have been thru this situation. We have to accept that right now we only have two senior strikers and one of them isn't fully match fit so Lita has that covering role, but we are also continuing with a single striker approach, so again Lita doesn't get a look in. I have said several times, until we know about CMS and his return, we will not sign a new striker, the likes of Lita will stay on the bench if CMS is close to returning but might figure to a greater extent if CMS is done and dusted for this season. Sign Conway, Ulloa up front and Barnes as an attacking midfield player, Lita on the bench, that makes sense to me. The lone striker approach really only needs 3 strikers available, so Solly will struggle this year to get playing time. VegasSeagull

3:50pm Tue 24 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

Claude Back wrote:
Neville wrote:
Ridiculous state of affairs regarding Lita,it was pretty obvious to most that the bench on Saturday lacked ambition with GK,4 defensive minded players and 2 strikers for a home match which we needed to win. Lita should have come on for Barnes last Saturday and linked with Ulloa,especially at home. We never looked like scoring,especially Barnes, so why not bring on Lita who could have snatched a goal. He is a proven scorer but has never been given a chance, players don't come on loan to be a back up they come to play games and put themselves in the shop window for January.
Much as I respect OG he really does need to get his act together for home games,possession in our own half for the majority of the game hurts no team,ok if we are winning but we just are not gaining enough points at home,fact.May well cost us dear at the end of season.
Once again, Neville, the voice of sanity.
Lita was not a direct replacement for Barnes and that is a fact no matter what Vegas says. If he lived locally he would know that. They are entirely different types of players for a start. It's Oscar's reluctance, or stubbornness to play two strikers that prevented Lita from getting a game, coupled with the fact that Oscar didn't actually sign him.
Claude I have never even suggested that Lita was a direct replacement for Barnes, never, in fact I have always said that he was cover for Barnes and nothing more. I am not sure how you claim that I have said otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]Claude Back[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Ridiculous state of affairs regarding Lita,it was pretty obvious to most that the bench on Saturday lacked ambition with GK,4 defensive minded players and 2 strikers for a home match which we needed to win. Lita should have come on for Barnes last Saturday and linked with Ulloa,especially at home. We never looked like scoring,especially Barnes, so why not bring on Lita who could have snatched a goal. He is a proven scorer but has never been given a chance, players don't come on loan to be a back up they come to play games and put themselves in the shop window for January. Much as I respect OG he really does need to get his act together for home games,possession in our own half for the majority of the game hurts no team,ok if we are winning but we just are not gaining enough points at home,fact.May well cost us dear at the end of season.[/p][/quote]Once again, Neville, the voice of sanity. Lita was not a direct replacement for Barnes and that is a fact no matter what Vegas says. If he lived locally he would know that. They are entirely different types of players for a start. It's Oscar's reluctance, or stubbornness to play two strikers that prevented Lita from getting a game, coupled with the fact that Oscar didn't actually sign him.[/p][/quote]Claude I have never even suggested that Lita was a direct replacement for Barnes, never, in fact I have always said that he was cover for Barnes and nothing more. I am not sure how you claim that I have said otherwise. VegasSeagull

4:16pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Neville says...

Hi Vegas,
All the best to you and your family this festive season.
Re the Lita role, I believe he was brought in to add something different,not the same like for like replacement.You will hear NJ refer to this many times and to my mind Lita does offer something totally different to AB and LU and any other player on the books. He is in the mould of Kevin Phillips, an out and out playmaker and predator around the box and normally takes out two opposing defenders to mark him.We have been crying out for this type of player,we get him on loan,let him play a few mins as sub when he scores and then discard him.Again makes absolutely no sense to me not to give him a go especially at home.In my opinion that is poor management and a wasted opportunity to try something different from OG/NJ on that one.
Hi Vegas, All the best to you and your family this festive season. Re the Lita role, I believe he was brought in to add something different,not the same like for like replacement.You will hear NJ refer to this many times and to my mind Lita does offer something totally different to AB and LU and any other player on the books. He is in the mould of Kevin Phillips, an out and out playmaker and predator around the box and normally takes out two opposing defenders to mark him.We have been crying out for this type of player,we get him on loan,let him play a few mins as sub when he scores and then discard him.Again makes absolutely no sense to me not to give him a go especially at home.In my opinion that is poor management and a wasted opportunity to try something different from OG/NJ on that one. Neville

4:29pm Tue 24 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

Neville wrote:
Hi Vegas,
All the best to you and your family this festive season.
Re the Lita role, I believe he was brought in to add something different,not the same like for like replacement.You will hear NJ refer to this many times and to my mind Lita does offer something totally different to AB and LU and any other player on the books. He is in the mould of Kevin Phillips, an out and out playmaker and predator around the box and normally takes out two opposing defenders to mark him.We have been crying out for this type of player,we get him on loan,let him play a few mins as sub when he scores and then discard him.Again makes absolutely no sense to me not to give him a go especially at home.In my opinion that is poor management and a wasted opportunity to try something different from OG/NJ on that one.
Yep I see where you are coming from but we would have had to have Barnes step down in order to play Lita, and that might suit some. Oscar is not up for starting two strikers in forward roles at the best of times, so no way he would do that with only two fit strikers available.
When Lita leaves we will still only have two senior strikers so something will have to be done unless CMS is due back, and I don't think he is. There is no way we can thru to the end of the season with just two strikers.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Hi Vegas, All the best to you and your family this festive season. Re the Lita role, I believe he was brought in to add something different,not the same like for like replacement.You will hear NJ refer to this many times and to my mind Lita does offer something totally different to AB and LU and any other player on the books. He is in the mould of Kevin Phillips, an out and out playmaker and predator around the box and normally takes out two opposing defenders to mark him.We have been crying out for this type of player,we get him on loan,let him play a few mins as sub when he scores and then discard him.Again makes absolutely no sense to me not to give him a go especially at home.In my opinion that is poor management and a wasted opportunity to try something different from OG/NJ on that one.[/p][/quote]Yep I see where you are coming from but we would have had to have Barnes step down in order to play Lita, and that might suit some. Oscar is not up for starting two strikers in forward roles at the best of times, so no way he would do that with only two fit strikers available. When Lita leaves we will still only have two senior strikers so something will have to be done unless CMS is due back, and I don't think he is. There is no way we can thru to the end of the season with just two strikers. VegasSeagull

4:34pm Tue 24 Dec 13

mark by the sea says...

Neville wrote:
Ridiculous state of affairs regarding Lita,it was pretty obvious to most that the bench on Saturday lacked ambition with GK,4 defensive minded players and 2 strikers for a home match which we needed to win. Lita should have come on for Barnes last Saturday and linked with Ulloa,especially at home. We never looked like scoring,especially Barnes, so why not bring on Lita who could have snatched a goal. He is a proven scorer but has never been given a chance, players don't come on loan to be a back up they come to play games and put themselves in the shop window for January.
Much as I respect OG he really does need to get his act together for home games,possession in our own half for the majority of the game hurts no team,ok if we are winning but we just are not gaining enough points at home,fact.May well cost us dear at the end of season.
Agree totally , we are a injury away agin from either Barnes or ulloa and back to one fit striker, let's really hope we bring in some quality other than journeymen
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Ridiculous state of affairs regarding Lita,it was pretty obvious to most that the bench on Saturday lacked ambition with GK,4 defensive minded players and 2 strikers for a home match which we needed to win. Lita should have come on for Barnes last Saturday and linked with Ulloa,especially at home. We never looked like scoring,especially Barnes, so why not bring on Lita who could have snatched a goal. He is a proven scorer but has never been given a chance, players don't come on loan to be a back up they come to play games and put themselves in the shop window for January. Much as I respect OG he really does need to get his act together for home games,possession in our own half for the majority of the game hurts no team,ok if we are winning but we just are not gaining enough points at home,fact.May well cost us dear at the end of season.[/p][/quote]Agree totally , we are a injury away agin from either Barnes or ulloa and back to one fit striker, let's really hope we bring in some quality other than journeymen mark by the sea

4:59pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Neville says...

Vegas
If we had played Lita a little then this would have rested either Barnes or Ulloa and we would have a fair idea whether we would sign him for the rest of the season and give us some cover. I cannot see CMS being back before February at this rate and may be too late for him to have any impact due match fitness.
Rumours persist about Barnes going to Burnley and he still has not signed any contract renewal,so this could make the situ even more ridiculous.
The management seem keen to utilise all players over this busy period,except Lita for some reason.
Vegas If we had played Lita a little then this would have rested either Barnes or Ulloa and we would have a fair idea whether we would sign him for the rest of the season and give us some cover. I cannot see CMS being back before February at this rate and may be too late for him to have any impact due match fitness. Rumours persist about Barnes going to Burnley and he still has not signed any contract renewal,so this could make the situ even more ridiculous. The management seem keen to utilise all players over this busy period,except Lita for some reason. Neville

5:12pm Tue 24 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

Neville wrote:
Vegas
If we had played Lita a little then this would have rested either Barnes or Ulloa and we would have a fair idea whether we would sign him for the rest of the season and give us some cover. I cannot see CMS being back before February at this rate and may be too late for him to have any impact due match fitness.
Rumours persist about Barnes going to Burnley and he still has not signed any contract renewal,so this could make the situ even more ridiculous.
The management seem keen to utilise all players over this busy period,except Lita for some reason.
Well we couldn't have rested Ulloa as he hasn't been fit to play, but yes maybe Barnes. It is possible that Lita might figure over the holiday matches as a sub but I doubt Oscar will drop Barnes. Crofts will probably start against Charlton but I doubt that Ulloa will. We know Kaz won't be on the team sheet so Buckley again. Barnes, Buckers and Crofts, there is some potential goal scoring there. Oscar will want to continue to give minutes to Ulloa from the bench so Lita has to be the one who misses out. We might all get a surprise and see both Barnes and Lita start, I doubt it but it might happen, Ulloa as a sub for either of them at some point toward the end of the match, maybe last 30.
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Vegas If we had played Lita a little then this would have rested either Barnes or Ulloa and we would have a fair idea whether we would sign him for the rest of the season and give us some cover. I cannot see CMS being back before February at this rate and may be too late for him to have any impact due match fitness. Rumours persist about Barnes going to Burnley and he still has not signed any contract renewal,so this could make the situ even more ridiculous. The management seem keen to utilise all players over this busy period,except Lita for some reason.[/p][/quote]Well we couldn't have rested Ulloa as he hasn't been fit to play, but yes maybe Barnes. It is possible that Lita might figure over the holiday matches as a sub but I doubt Oscar will drop Barnes. Crofts will probably start against Charlton but I doubt that Ulloa will. We know Kaz won't be on the team sheet so Buckley again. Barnes, Buckers and Crofts, there is some potential goal scoring there. Oscar will want to continue to give minutes to Ulloa from the bench so Lita has to be the one who misses out. We might all get a surprise and see both Barnes and Lita start, I doubt it but it might happen, Ulloa as a sub for either of them at some point toward the end of the match, maybe last 30. VegasSeagull

5:24pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Neville says...

Vegas
The management talk about rotation but Barnes plays every match regardless.
According to The Argus,Lita unlikely to be on bench so it will be Barnes for another 90 mins and the same thereafter no doubt.Madness!.
Vegas The management talk about rotation but Barnes plays every match regardless. According to The Argus,Lita unlikely to be on bench so it will be Barnes for another 90 mins and the same thereafter no doubt.Madness!. Neville

5:43pm Tue 24 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

Neville, do you think it possible that Lita just hasn't shown enough on the training field, I am not claiming that, just asking. Barnes has more to his game than just trying to score goals, he battles back too, perhaps Lita doesn't have that in his game, or al least has not shown that he has in training matches. Just a thought.
Neville, do you think it possible that Lita just hasn't shown enough on the training field, I am not claiming that, just asking. Barnes has more to his game than just trying to score goals, he battles back too, perhaps Lita doesn't have that in his game, or al least has not shown that he has in training matches. Just a thought. VegasSeagull

5:44pm Tue 24 Dec 13

oksouthstander says...

We have a compatible points tally to last season and a stronger squad.We have a better away record and need to build Fort Amex. We need to abandon the Abby Amex with its halls of silence and find our voices to raise fort Amex to a stronghold of HOME support.The game is 90 minutes and game time is behind our players on the pitch.Lets here it for Oscars Blue & White Army.Lets hear it for Bournemouth and all of 2014 visiting teams stats will tell you fans means goals..
We have a compatible points tally to last season and a stronger squad.We have a better away record and need to build Fort Amex. We need to abandon the Abby Amex with its halls of silence and find our voices to raise fort Amex to a stronghold of HOME support.The game is 90 minutes and game time is behind our players on the pitch.Lets here it for Oscars Blue & White Army.Lets hear it for Bournemouth and all of 2014 visiting teams stats will tell you fans means goals.. oksouthstander

5:48pm Tue 24 Dec 13

B rian Tawses left foot says...

I've seldom read such miserablist tripe in my life as some of the utter nonsense being peddled on here today. The team are two points away from being in the play off places with every chance in the world of making the play off places. They have one of the best defensive records in the league and with the return of Ulloa have one of the best strikers in the league. But no, apparently it's all dome and gloom. Once Bridcutt goes the defence the defence is going to fall apart - ignoring the fact the guy has been injured most of the season. The strings are being pulled by some evil money man who wants to rob season ticket holders blind ! Yeah right, lets forget about the need to run the club on viable financial lines. What's all this guff about 'journey men' players. The club hasn't had so many internationals on it's books since the 80's.
I can only conclude some people on here a burdened by the cost of Christmas and /or the thought of spending it with the in-laws. Whatever else ails them it should not be the position of our great club which is in rude good health and possibly on the cusp of promotion. Keep your 'negative vibes' to yourselves !
I've seldom read such miserablist tripe in my life as some of the utter nonsense being peddled on here today. The team are two points away from being in the play off places with every chance in the world of making the play off places. They have one of the best defensive records in the league and with the return of Ulloa have one of the best strikers in the league. But no, apparently it's all dome and gloom. Once Bridcutt goes the defence the defence is going to fall apart - ignoring the fact the guy has been injured most of the season. The strings are being pulled by some evil money man who wants to rob season ticket holders blind ! Yeah right, lets forget about the need to run the club on viable financial lines. What's all this guff about 'journey men' players. The club hasn't had so many internationals on it's books since the 80's. I can only conclude some people on here a burdened by the cost of Christmas and /or the thought of spending it with the in-laws. Whatever else ails them it should not be the position of our great club which is in rude good health and possibly on the cusp of promotion. Keep your 'negative vibes' to yourselves ! B rian Tawses left foot

5:52pm Tue 24 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I've seldom read such miserablist tripe in my life as some of the utter nonsense being peddled on here today. The team are two points away from being in the play off places with every chance in the world of making the play off places. They have one of the best defensive records in the league and with the return of Ulloa have one of the best strikers in the league. But no, apparently it's all dome and gloom. Once Bridcutt goes the defence the defence is going to fall apart - ignoring the fact the guy has been injured most of the season. The strings are being pulled by some evil money man who wants to rob season ticket holders blind ! Yeah right, lets forget about the need to run the club on viable financial lines. What's all this guff about 'journey men' players. The club hasn't had so many internationals on it's books since the 80's.
I can only conclude some people on here a burdened by the cost of Christmas and /or the thought of spending it with the in-laws. Whatever else ails them it should not be the position of our great club which is in rude good health and possibly on the cusp of promotion. Keep your 'negative vibes' to yourselves !
A voice of reason from the wilderness, you get my vote.
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: I've seldom read such miserablist tripe in my life as some of the utter nonsense being peddled on here today. The team are two points away from being in the play off places with every chance in the world of making the play off places. They have one of the best defensive records in the league and with the return of Ulloa have one of the best strikers in the league. But no, apparently it's all dome and gloom. Once Bridcutt goes the defence the defence is going to fall apart - ignoring the fact the guy has been injured most of the season. The strings are being pulled by some evil money man who wants to rob season ticket holders blind ! Yeah right, lets forget about the need to run the club on viable financial lines. What's all this guff about 'journey men' players. The club hasn't had so many internationals on it's books since the 80's. I can only conclude some people on here a burdened by the cost of Christmas and /or the thought of spending it with the in-laws. Whatever else ails them it should not be the position of our great club which is in rude good health and possibly on the cusp of promotion. Keep your 'negative vibes' to yourselves ![/p][/quote]A voice of reason from the wilderness, you get my vote. VegasSeagull

6:00pm Tue 24 Dec 13

tug509 says...

tug509 wrote:
Crazy situation ,i feel sorry for the guy ,i dont think we have done him or ourselves any favours . Against Huddersfield ,i think we had them at arms length ,and all that was needed for all 3 points was a enough courage to take the risk of putting Lita up front with Leo ,i honestly think we would have got a couple . We have another chance on Boxing day ,i Hope we show willingness to put an attacking side on the pitch ,we will have great support at The Valley ,with the greatest of respect to Charlton ,with the problems they are going through ,this is our game to lose !. UTA
Sorry ,i should have added my best wishes to all our fellow Albionites ,players and everyone connected to our Great club ,have a terrific Christmas ,see you on Boxing day !. UTA
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Crazy situation ,i feel sorry for the guy ,i dont think we have done him or ourselves any favours . Against Huddersfield ,i think we had them at arms length ,and all that was needed for all 3 points was a enough courage to take the risk of putting Lita up front with Leo ,i honestly think we would have got a couple . We have another chance on Boxing day ,i Hope we show willingness to put an attacking side on the pitch ,we will have great support at The Valley ,with the greatest of respect to Charlton ,with the problems they are going through ,this is our game to lose !. UTA[/p][/quote]Sorry ,i should have added my best wishes to all our fellow Albionites ,players and everyone connected to our Great club ,have a terrific Christmas ,see you on Boxing day !. UTA tug509

6:07pm Tue 24 Dec 13

wiseman of hove says...

Neville wrote:
Ridiculous state of affairs regarding Lita,it was pretty obvious to most that the bench on Saturday lacked ambition with GK,4 defensive minded players and 2 strikers for a home match which we needed to win. Lita should have come on for Barnes last Saturday and linked with Ulloa,especially at home. We never looked like scoring,especially Barnes, so why not bring on Lita who could have snatched a goal. He is a proven scorer but has never been given a chance, players don't come on loan to be a back up they come to play games and put themselves in the shop window for January.
Much as I respect OG he really does need to get his act together for home games,possession in our own half for the majority of the game hurts no team,ok if we are winning but we just are not gaining enough points at home,fact.May well cost us dear at the end of season.
Excellent post - beyond me how it has attracted dislikes!
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Ridiculous state of affairs regarding Lita,it was pretty obvious to most that the bench on Saturday lacked ambition with GK,4 defensive minded players and 2 strikers for a home match which we needed to win. Lita should have come on for Barnes last Saturday and linked with Ulloa,especially at home. We never looked like scoring,especially Barnes, so why not bring on Lita who could have snatched a goal. He is a proven scorer but has never been given a chance, players don't come on loan to be a back up they come to play games and put themselves in the shop window for January. Much as I respect OG he really does need to get his act together for home games,possession in our own half for the majority of the game hurts no team,ok if we are winning but we just are not gaining enough points at home,fact.May well cost us dear at the end of season.[/p][/quote]Excellent post - beyond me how it has attracted dislikes! wiseman of hove

6:09pm Tue 24 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

tug509 wrote:
tug509 wrote:
Crazy situation ,i feel sorry for the guy ,i dont think we have done him or ourselves any favours . Against Huddersfield ,i think we had them at arms length ,and all that was needed for all 3 points was a enough courage to take the risk of putting Lita up front with Leo ,i honestly think we would have got a couple . We have another chance on Boxing day ,i Hope we show willingness to put an attacking side on the pitch ,we will have great support at The Valley ,with the greatest of respect to Charlton ,with the problems they are going through ,this is our game to lose !. UTA
Sorry ,i should have added my best wishes to all our fellow Albionites ,players and everyone connected to our Great club ,have a terrific Christmas ,see you on Boxing day !. UTA
right back at ya Tug.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: Crazy situation ,i feel sorry for the guy ,i dont think we have done him or ourselves any favours . Against Huddersfield ,i think we had them at arms length ,and all that was needed for all 3 points was a enough courage to take the risk of putting Lita up front with Leo ,i honestly think we would have got a couple . We have another chance on Boxing day ,i Hope we show willingness to put an attacking side on the pitch ,we will have great support at The Valley ,with the greatest of respect to Charlton ,with the problems they are going through ,this is our game to lose !. UTA[/p][/quote]Sorry ,i should have added my best wishes to all our fellow Albionites ,players and everyone connected to our Great club ,have a terrific Christmas ,see you on Boxing day !. UTA[/p][/quote]right back at ya Tug. VegasSeagull

6:30pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Neville says...

Vegas,
Yes you may be right and there may be issues with training etc,but if that is the case then the loan needs to be finished.
Vegas, Yes you may be right and there may be issues with training etc,but if that is the case then the loan needs to be finished. Neville

6:49pm Tue 24 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

Neville wrote:
Vegas,
Yes you may be right and there may be issues with training etc,but if that is the case then the loan needs to be finished.
agreed, I see that QPR have also just released a loan striker, he didn't figure much either
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: Vegas, Yes you may be right and there may be issues with training etc,but if that is the case then the loan needs to be finished.[/p][/quote]agreed, I see that QPR have also just released a loan striker, he didn't figure much either VegasSeagull

7:21pm Tue 24 Dec 13

OldGull says...

B rian Tawses left foot wrote:
I've seldom read such miserablist tripe in my life as some of the utter nonsense being peddled on here today. The team are two points away from being in the play off places with every chance in the world of making the play off places. They have one of the best defensive records in the league and with the return of Ulloa have one of the best strikers in the league. But no, apparently it's all dome and gloom. Once Bridcutt goes the defence the defence is going to fall apart - ignoring the fact the guy has been injured most of the season. The strings are being pulled by some evil money man who wants to rob season ticket holders blind ! Yeah right, lets forget about the need to run the club on viable financial lines. What's all this guff about 'journey men' players. The club hasn't had so many internationals on it's books since the 80's.
I can only conclude some people on here a burdened by the cost of Christmas and /or the thought of spending it with the in-laws. Whatever else ails them it should not be the position of our great club which is in rude good health and possibly on the cusp of promotion. Keep your 'negative vibes' to yourselves !
Well said.
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote: I've seldom read such miserablist tripe in my life as some of the utter nonsense being peddled on here today. The team are two points away from being in the play off places with every chance in the world of making the play off places. They have one of the best defensive records in the league and with the return of Ulloa have one of the best strikers in the league. But no, apparently it's all dome and gloom. Once Bridcutt goes the defence the defence is going to fall apart - ignoring the fact the guy has been injured most of the season. The strings are being pulled by some evil money man who wants to rob season ticket holders blind ! Yeah right, lets forget about the need to run the club on viable financial lines. What's all this guff about 'journey men' players. The club hasn't had so many internationals on it's books since the 80's. I can only conclude some people on here a burdened by the cost of Christmas and /or the thought of spending it with the in-laws. Whatever else ails them it should not be the position of our great club which is in rude good health and possibly on the cusp of promotion. Keep your 'negative vibes' to yourselves ![/p][/quote]Well said. OldGull

7:32pm Tue 24 Dec 13

To baldly go says...

Evening guys and a merry xmas to one and all.
On the Lita debate, I like others believe we would be in a far better position had he played more games, Barnes is NOT an out and out striker as shown again by his miss's Saturday and would be better employed elsewhere on the pitch just behind a striker IMO, take out his 2 penalties and 3 goals is a pretty poor show for the amount of game time he has had, Lita would have scored double that in the few months he has been with us and we would be a few points better off, having said that the team has performed very well all things considered we could be a lot worse off!
Players come and go all the time and money talks, be it wages or transfer fees, things will change, we still need cover for Ulloa and I believe Lita should have been given the chance to prove himself worthy of that position, we've paid 3 months wages for what! and now we're looking at someone else to cover who might not fit in and it will be to late by then to rectify the problem!
Looking forward to Boxing Day when we stuff the Charlton turkey's 2-0 and Ince to get on the score sheet. UTA
Evening guys and a merry xmas to one and all. On the Lita debate, I like others believe we would be in a far better position had he played more games, Barnes is NOT an out and out striker as shown again by his miss's Saturday and would be better employed elsewhere on the pitch just behind a striker IMO, take out his 2 penalties and 3 goals is a pretty poor show for the amount of game time he has had, Lita would have scored double that in the few months he has been with us and we would be a few points better off, having said that the team has performed very well all things considered we could be a lot worse off! Players come and go all the time and money talks, be it wages or transfer fees, things will change, we still need cover for Ulloa and I believe Lita should have been given the chance to prove himself worthy of that position, we've paid 3 months wages for what! and now we're looking at someone else to cover who might not fit in and it will be to late by then to rectify the problem! Looking forward to Boxing Day when we stuff the Charlton turkey's 2-0 and Ince to get on the score sheet. UTA To baldly go

7:41pm Tue 24 Dec 13

OldGull says...

So we drew 0-0 last saturday and everyone is coming out with negativity.
Few teams play with 2 strikers so please stop banging on about 442.
(it hasn't worked for England for years).
Yes I know United, City & Liverpool do, but as far as I am aware we do not have a Saurez, Rooney or Agueiro who can drag the defence out of position
Arsenal & Chelsea only play with 1 up and do alright.

We play 433 or 451 get used to it.
Oscar's game plan is still a work in progress and we are in as good a position as last season.
Give it time and keep the faith
UTA
So we drew 0-0 last saturday and everyone is coming out with negativity. Few teams play with 2 strikers so please stop banging on about 442. (it hasn't worked for England for years). Yes I know United, City & Liverpool do, but as far as I am aware we do not have a Saurez, Rooney or Agueiro who can drag the defence out of position Arsenal & Chelsea only play with 1 up and do alright. We play 433 or 451 get used to it. Oscar's game plan is still a work in progress and we are in as good a position as last season. Give it time and keep the faith UTA OldGull

7:46pm Tue 24 Dec 13

Neville says...

Final one from me now as I have to get the biscuits and milk ready for the arrival of the reindeers.
Interesting question and answer session on Charlton Athletic FC website with Andy Naylor,seems CMS won't be back for while.
Happy Xmas to all
Final one from me now as I have to get the biscuits and milk ready for the arrival of the reindeers. Interesting question and answer session on Charlton Athletic FC website with Andy Naylor,seems CMS won't be back for while. Happy Xmas to all Neville

8:07pm Tue 24 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

To baldly go wrote:
Evening guys and a merry xmas to one and all.
On the Lita debate, I like others believe we would be in a far better position had he played more games, Barnes is NOT an out and out striker as shown again by his miss's Saturday and would be better employed elsewhere on the pitch just behind a striker IMO, take out his 2 penalties and 3 goals is a pretty poor show for the amount of game time he has had, Lita would have scored double that in the few months he has been with us and we would be a few points better off, having said that the team has performed very well all things considered we could be a lot worse off!
Players come and go all the time and money talks, be it wages or transfer fees, things will change, we still need cover for Ulloa and I believe Lita should have been given the chance to prove himself worthy of that position, we've paid 3 months wages for what! and now we're looking at someone else to cover who might not fit in and it will be to late by then to rectify the problem!
Looking forward to Boxing Day when we stuff the Charlton turkey's 2-0 and Ince to get on the score sheet. UTA
You may be right about Lita scoring more goals than Barnes, you may also be right when you suggest that Barnes might better suited playing behind the striker, but who is the striker that Barnes would have played behind, Ulloa has been out. Are you saying that Barnes should have played behind Lita, leaving us without a striker on the bench?

I think that the thrust of your comment is that Lita should have been given more playing time, either starting for replacing Barnes earlier in the matches, and that thought might have some legs. I suggested to Neville earlier that it just might be that Lita has shown nothing on the training field and for that reason Oscar has chosen not to use him. I would hope that if Lita was getting past our own back five in training matches and putting the ball away Oscar would have used him, so perhaps he wasn't doing so.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: Evening guys and a merry xmas to one and all. On the Lita debate, I like others believe we would be in a far better position had he played more games, Barnes is NOT an out and out striker as shown again by his miss's Saturday and would be better employed elsewhere on the pitch just behind a striker IMO, take out his 2 penalties and 3 goals is a pretty poor show for the amount of game time he has had, Lita would have scored double that in the few months he has been with us and we would be a few points better off, having said that the team has performed very well all things considered we could be a lot worse off! Players come and go all the time and money talks, be it wages or transfer fees, things will change, we still need cover for Ulloa and I believe Lita should have been given the chance to prove himself worthy of that position, we've paid 3 months wages for what! and now we're looking at someone else to cover who might not fit in and it will be to late by then to rectify the problem! Looking forward to Boxing Day when we stuff the Charlton turkey's 2-0 and Ince to get on the score sheet. UTA[/p][/quote]You may be right about Lita scoring more goals than Barnes, you may also be right when you suggest that Barnes might better suited playing behind the striker, but who is the striker that Barnes would have played behind, Ulloa has been out. Are you saying that Barnes should have played behind Lita, leaving us without a striker on the bench? I think that the thrust of your comment is that Lita should have been given more playing time, either starting for replacing Barnes earlier in the matches, and that thought might have some legs. I suggested to Neville earlier that it just might be that Lita has shown nothing on the training field and for that reason Oscar has chosen not to use him. I would hope that if Lita was getting past our own back five in training matches and putting the ball away Oscar would have used him, so perhaps he wasn't doing so. VegasSeagull

8:34pm Tue 24 Dec 13

To baldly go says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
Evening guys and a merry xmas to one and all.
On the Lita debate, I like others believe we would be in a far better position had he played more games, Barnes is NOT an out and out striker as shown again by his miss's Saturday and would be better employed elsewhere on the pitch just behind a striker IMO, take out his 2 penalties and 3 goals is a pretty poor show for the amount of game time he has had, Lita would have scored double that in the few months he has been with us and we would be a few points better off, having said that the team has performed very well all things considered we could be a lot worse off!
Players come and go all the time and money talks, be it wages or transfer fees, things will change, we still need cover for Ulloa and I believe Lita should have been given the chance to prove himself worthy of that position, we've paid 3 months wages for what! and now we're looking at someone else to cover who might not fit in and it will be to late by then to rectify the problem!
Looking forward to Boxing Day when we stuff the Charlton turkey's 2-0 and Ince to get on the score sheet. UTA
You may be right about Lita scoring more goals than Barnes, you may also be right when you suggest that Barnes might better suited playing behind the striker, but who is the striker that Barnes would have played behind, Ulloa has been out. Are you saying that Barnes should have played behind Lita, leaving us without a striker on the bench?

I think that the thrust of your comment is that Lita should have been given more playing time, either starting for replacing Barnes earlier in the matches, and that thought might have some legs. I suggested to Neville earlier that it just might be that Lita has shown nothing on the training field and for that reason Oscar has chosen not to use him. I would hope that if Lita was getting past our own back five in training matches and putting the ball away Oscar would have used him, so perhaps he wasn't doing so.
Agree to a point, we don't get behind the scenes so can only surmise what goes on in training. Barnes behind Lita might work, he used to play with Cms and is use to supplying someone with pace.
As I've posted previously, at home I think we should go 4-4-2 and attack! but 4-5-1 away with the loan striker, prem teams play 4-5-1 a lot of the time but have high quality attacking midfielders, in the championship, 4-4-2 I think is a better option.
Have a good christmas and let's hope for a win to talk about Boxing Day. UTA
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: Evening guys and a merry xmas to one and all. On the Lita debate, I like others believe we would be in a far better position had he played more games, Barnes is NOT an out and out striker as shown again by his miss's Saturday and would be better employed elsewhere on the pitch just behind a striker IMO, take out his 2 penalties and 3 goals is a pretty poor show for the amount of game time he has had, Lita would have scored double that in the few months he has been with us and we would be a few points better off, having said that the team has performed very well all things considered we could be a lot worse off! Players come and go all the time and money talks, be it wages or transfer fees, things will change, we still need cover for Ulloa and I believe Lita should have been given the chance to prove himself worthy of that position, we've paid 3 months wages for what! and now we're looking at someone else to cover who might not fit in and it will be to late by then to rectify the problem! Looking forward to Boxing Day when we stuff the Charlton turkey's 2-0 and Ince to get on the score sheet. UTA[/p][/quote]You may be right about Lita scoring more goals than Barnes, you may also be right when you suggest that Barnes might better suited playing behind the striker, but who is the striker that Barnes would have played behind, Ulloa has been out. Are you saying that Barnes should have played behind Lita, leaving us without a striker on the bench? I think that the thrust of your comment is that Lita should have been given more playing time, either starting for replacing Barnes earlier in the matches, and that thought might have some legs. I suggested to Neville earlier that it just might be that Lita has shown nothing on the training field and for that reason Oscar has chosen not to use him. I would hope that if Lita was getting past our own back five in training matches and putting the ball away Oscar would have used him, so perhaps he wasn't doing so.[/p][/quote]Agree to a point, we don't get behind the scenes so can only surmise what goes on in training. Barnes behind Lita might work, he used to play with Cms and is use to supplying someone with pace. As I've posted previously, at home I think we should go 4-4-2 and attack! but 4-5-1 away with the loan striker, prem teams play 4-5-1 a lot of the time but have high quality attacking midfielders, in the championship, 4-4-2 I think is a better option. Have a good christmas and let's hope for a win to talk about Boxing Day. UTA To baldly go

9:15am Thu 26 Dec 13

jockithenoo says...

Still don't get it !!!!!!!!!!!
UTA WE MARCH ON
Still don't get it !!!!!!!!!!! UTA WE MARCH ON jockithenoo

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