Jones rues defensive lapses

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Nathan Jones admitted Albion let defensive standards slip at Charlton today.

But the Seagulls assistant head coach also recognised how tough his previous club made life for them in a real battle at The Valley.

Charlton came from a goal down to win 3-2 in the first Championship fixture of the day.

The win ensured they would remain out of the drop zone and ended any hopes Albion had of breaking into the top six today.

Jones, who was development coach at Charlton last season, said: “We are very frustrated. We felt we probably did enough to get something out of the game.

“It was a very competitive game, an entertaining game, there were chances.

“We weren’t quite as clinical as we would have liked to have been but also we weren’t as tight at the back as we have been for the last eight, nine, ten games.

“We are a little bit disappointed but credit to Charlton.

“They had a good game plan, worked extremely hard and they have got good players.”

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3:37pm Thu 26 Dec 13

bruce beckett says...

Nathan Jones you've been on too long.

“They had a good game plan, worked extremely hard and they have got good players.”

That's why they were in the bottom three before today with only two wins. We have better players, so the question you should be answering is: What was wrong with our game plan?
Nathan Jones you've been on too long. “They had a good game plan, worked extremely hard and they have got good players.” That's why they were in the bottom three before today with only two wins. We have better players, so the question you should be answering is: What was wrong with our game plan? bruce beckett

3:45pm Thu 26 Dec 13

true fan says...

Another loss to a team near the bottom, begs the question, are we mentally prepared for these games? Sort it out or wave goodbye to prem hopes.
Another loss to a team near the bottom, begs the question, are we mentally prepared for these games? Sort it out or wave goodbye to prem hopes. true fan

3:47pm Thu 26 Dec 13

bbb1969 says...

Too late to respond; we expected Charlton to role over after 1 goal but the didn'r. Still got to do the basics like clwaring the ball and defending. Ince Augustien and crofts in midfield for me with buckers out wide feeding Ulloa. Good thing today is Ulloa niw top goalscorer with his first full game back so optimistic of a good run now.
Too late to respond; we expected Charlton to role over after 1 goal but the didn'r. Still got to do the basics like clwaring the ball and defending. Ince Augustien and crofts in midfield for me with buckers out wide feeding Ulloa. Good thing today is Ulloa niw top goalscorer with his first full game back so optimistic of a good run now. bbb1969

3:59pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Steveg1958 says...

Agree, do we go out with the right attitude against teams near the foot of the table, and why is our best keeper sitting on the bench today ? sorry to say Brezovan and Ankergren are never better that TK. Please can we have a creative midfielder n January and get Conway back as he's about the only forward wide player who knows how to cross the all accurately.
Agree, do we go out with the right attitude against teams near the foot of the table, and why is our best keeper sitting on the bench today ? sorry to say Brezovan and Ankergren are never better that TK. Please can we have a creative midfielder n January and get Conway back as he's about the only forward wide player who knows how to cross the all accurately. Steveg1958

4:00pm Thu 26 Dec 13

tug509 says...

Jones , Q .For who and where do your loyalties lie . It seems you say a lot in Oscar`s absence ,but take no responsibilities for poor performances ,other than to complement "Ex" clubs ,( earlier it was Yeovil) and offer absolutely no guarantees of an improvement next game !.

I would and have supported ,as we all have ,the Albion through any bad times ,or in this case ,simply a bad run ,but not blindly or stupidly ,that is reserved for the trolls .Imho this bad run is not due to other teams miraculous improvements against us, but the collective knowledge here knows that we are not using the available squad in a positive manner .

Always Albion . UTA
Jones , Q .For who and where do your loyalties lie . It seems you say a lot in Oscar`s absence ,but take no responsibilities for poor performances ,other than to complement "Ex" clubs ,( earlier it was Yeovil) and offer absolutely no guarantees of an improvement next game !. I would and have supported ,as we all have ,the Albion through any bad times ,or in this case ,simply a bad run ,but not blindly or stupidly ,that is reserved for the trolls .Imho this bad run is not due to other teams miraculous improvements against us, but the collective knowledge here knows that we are not using the available squad in a positive manner . Always Albion . UTA tug509

5:04pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Far gull says...

I'm with you tug . Sadly this season slipping away now which is even given injures not exceptable . Apart from leicester game at hm we have been poor in the first halves of most games in the creative department and relied to much on our defense. 4 points out of possible 12 just not even play off form.
Are we just unlucky as a club? Someone posted on another thread about Palace always having in 40 yrs the upper hand and record and although this guy part troll i found myself agreeing with him !!!
Sunderland getting out of jail and Palace staying up does not bear thinking about after how close we were last season !
Some one chear me up! :-)
I'm with you tug . Sadly this season slipping away now which is even given injures not exceptable . Apart from leicester game at hm we have been poor in the first halves of most games in the creative department and relied to much on our defense. 4 points out of possible 12 just not even play off form. Are we just unlucky as a club? Someone posted on another thread about Palace always having in 40 yrs the upper hand and record and although this guy part troll i found myself agreeing with him !!! Sunderland getting out of jail and Palace staying up does not bear thinking about after how close we were last season ! Some one chear me up! :-) Far gull

5:17pm Thu 26 Dec 13

albion64 says...

bruce beckett wrote:
Nathan Jones you've been on too long.

“They had a good game plan, worked extremely hard and they have got good players.”

That's why they were in the bottom three before today with only two wins. We have better players, so the question you should be answering is: What was wrong with our game plan?
I agree, and we again looked very slow at the back against any sort of pacey attack. Sorry to repeat an earlier post, but El-Abd likes his grapple with opponents and was very lucky to be on the pitch at full time.

We gave the ball away very cheaply in advanced areas and within seconds it was in our box and in the net. This happened on numerous occasions and Charlton could have had more.

We seem to get the ball in their half in advanced areas, especially in the first half and then run out of ideas. No one seems to want to take a gamble. Then when it is too late, we pump long hopeful balls in to the box. Poor Leo had a hell of a job to get the ball down in the last 20 minutes.

Bridcutt had a stinker (he is allowed to now and again) but I hope he wasn't
dreaming of the prem' when he was passing to the opposition.

Two tough games on he way. 4 points would be nice, but we need Greer back for Blackpool. UTA
[quote][p][bold]bruce beckett[/bold] wrote: Nathan Jones you've been on too long. “They had a good game plan, worked extremely hard and they have got good players.” That's why they were in the bottom three before today with only two wins. We have better players, so the question you should be answering is: What was wrong with our game plan?[/p][/quote]I agree, and we again looked very slow at the back against any sort of pacey attack. Sorry to repeat an earlier post, but El-Abd likes his grapple with opponents and was very lucky to be on the pitch at full time. We gave the ball away very cheaply in advanced areas and within seconds it was in our box and in the net. This happened on numerous occasions and Charlton could have had more. We seem to get the ball in their half in advanced areas, especially in the first half and then run out of ideas. No one seems to want to take a gamble. Then when it is too late, we pump long hopeful balls in to the box. Poor Leo had a hell of a job to get the ball down in the last 20 minutes. Bridcutt had a stinker (he is allowed to now and again) but I hope he wasn't dreaming of the prem' when he was passing to the opposition. Two tough games on he way. 4 points would be nice, but we need Greer back for Blackpool. UTA albion64

5:20pm Thu 26 Dec 13

albion64 says...

Far gull wrote:
I'm with you tug . Sadly this season slipping away now which is even given injures not exceptable . Apart from leicester game at hm we have been poor in the first halves of most games in the creative department and relied to much on our defense. 4 points out of possible 12 just not even play off form.
Are we just unlucky as a club? Someone posted on another thread about Palace always having in 40 yrs the upper hand and record and although this guy part troll i found myself agreeing with him !!!
Sunderland getting out of jail and Palace staying up does not bear thinking about after how close we were last season !
Some one chear me up! :-)
I had a nice burger on the way back from the game. Does that help?
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: I'm with you tug . Sadly this season slipping away now which is even given injures not exceptable . Apart from leicester game at hm we have been poor in the first halves of most games in the creative department and relied to much on our defense. 4 points out of possible 12 just not even play off form. Are we just unlucky as a club? Someone posted on another thread about Palace always having in 40 yrs the upper hand and record and although this guy part troll i found myself agreeing with him !!! Sunderland getting out of jail and Palace staying up does not bear thinking about after how close we were last season ! Some one chear me up! :-)[/p][/quote]I had a nice burger on the way back from the game. Does that help? albion64

5:58pm Thu 26 Dec 13

SecondReserve says...

Yet another defeat against a poor team at the wrong end of the table. Great to have Ulloa back and scoring goals but today all of the defenders - ALL of them - were dreadful. Collectively they had several chances to prevent the first two goals but they were all over the place and Wilson twice ended up totally unmarked in the penalty area with the ball at his feet and all the time in the world to score. El Abd got away with a lot but gave away one stupid free-kick too many to give them the third goal. Calderon is a cult hero but he was truly awful when he came on and right back is becoming a problem position.

We're just not looking like a potential play-off team. Look at our last 6 matches - superb win against Leicester, good smash-and-grab win at Middlesborough, disappointing draws against poor Bournemouth and Huddersfield teams, and thoroughly dismal defeats against really struggling Barnsley and Charlton teams. Hardly an inspiring collection of performances - only one of those 6 opponents is above us in the table yet we scraped just 8 points. Virtually all of our injured players are now back so no more excuses.
Yet another defeat against a poor team at the wrong end of the table. Great to have Ulloa back and scoring goals but today all of the defenders - ALL of them - were dreadful. Collectively they had several chances to prevent the first two goals but they were all over the place and Wilson twice ended up totally unmarked in the penalty area with the ball at his feet and all the time in the world to score. El Abd got away with a lot but gave away one stupid free-kick too many to give them the third goal. Calderon is a cult hero but he was truly awful when he came on and right back is becoming a problem position. We're just not looking like a potential play-off team. Look at our last 6 matches - superb win against Leicester, good smash-and-grab win at Middlesborough, disappointing draws against poor Bournemouth and Huddersfield teams, and thoroughly dismal defeats against really struggling Barnsley and Charlton teams. Hardly an inspiring collection of performances - only one of those 6 opponents is above us in the table yet we scraped just 8 points. Virtually all of our injured players are now back so no more excuses. SecondReserve

6:02pm Thu 26 Dec 13

blue-eyed-boy says...

I don't want to be negative but! Nathan keeps saying things like “They had a good game plan, worked extremely hard and they have got good players.” I can only ask the question why aren't we tuning up with a better game plan, I do think we worked hard enough & they might have good players but I like to think that we have better players.
We lacked at the back, this will not be addressed by the return of Greer, as well as El-Abb has played he's not the long term answer, we missed Ince in midfield, his driving runs cause panic in the opposition causing them to back peddle & as for Buckley he really has to live up to his potential, he no longer has the excuse of being a youngster, time he showed some maturity & delivered some end product, although I'd have done the same I thought Lopez was unlucky to go off as he had laid on most of our chances. I'd like to think that Ashley will get the chance to start up front with Leo in the next game, he played well when came on, playing off the centre forward is more his game.
I don't want to be negative but! Nathan keeps saying things like “They had a good game plan, worked extremely hard and they have got good players.” I can only ask the question why aren't we tuning up with a better game plan, I do think we worked hard enough & they might have good players but I like to think that we have better players. We lacked at the back, this will not be addressed by the return of Greer, as well as El-Abb has played he's not the long term answer, we missed Ince in midfield, his driving runs cause panic in the opposition causing them to back peddle & as for Buckley he really has to live up to his potential, he no longer has the excuse of being a youngster, time he showed some maturity & delivered some end product, although I'd have done the same I thought Lopez was unlucky to go off as he had laid on most of our chances. I'd like to think that Ashley will get the chance to start up front with Leo in the next game, he played well when came on, playing off the centre forward is more his game. blue-eyed-boy

6:28pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Gazza by the sea says...

Bridcutt is prem class playing just in front of the back four - and he makes the defence more solid when he plays there. Played further forward he is average at best. And Buckley looks lost on the left. How about we play players in their best position Oscar?
Bridcutt is prem class playing just in front of the back four - and he makes the defence more solid when he plays there. Played further forward he is average at best. And Buckley looks lost on the left. How about we play players in their best position Oscar? Gazza by the sea

8:10pm Thu 26 Dec 13

EastWorthingExocetMissile says...

The fact is we have failed to beat five of the six teams isn't the bottom of the league. Why is this, because we don't go into these games attacking enough and seem to believe when we can just roll up and win.
The only time we did win against a team in the bottom of six, when away at Doncaster we famously put on Leroy lita and kept Lopez on and played two up front when one all.
Oscar doesn't know his best side yet and I don't blame him for this, as he had no pre-season and the amount of injuries he has had. But there are certain givens TK is better than peter brezovan all day long. My only thought on this is that he May be annoyed at TK,s recent article in the argus basically stating he wants to play in the premiership next season even if this is without the albion. Ince and bridcutt are also brilliant and unbeaten together. Be weary of ever splitting that up.

Be bold oscar, especially against the poorer sides we are pretty much all behind you but we would rather lose trying to wiin. Than just lose or draw through being over cautious.
The fact is we have failed to beat five of the six teams isn't the bottom of the league. Why is this, because we don't go into these games attacking enough and seem to believe when we can just roll up and win. The only time we did win against a team in the bottom of six, when away at Doncaster we famously put on Leroy lita and kept Lopez on and played two up front when one all. Oscar doesn't know his best side yet and I don't blame him for this, as he had no pre-season and the amount of injuries he has had. But there are certain givens TK is better than peter brezovan all day long. My only thought on this is that he May be annoyed at TK,s recent article in the argus basically stating he wants to play in the premiership next season even if this is without the albion. Ince and bridcutt are also brilliant and unbeaten together. Be weary of ever splitting that up. Be bold oscar, especially against the poorer sides we are pretty much all behind you but we would rather lose trying to wiin. Than just lose or draw through being over cautious. EastWorthingExocetMissile

9:49pm Thu 26 Dec 13

mark by the sea says...

Just back, not good enough in lots of ways, elabd showed his lack of pace.
Just back, not good enough in lots of ways, elabd showed his lack of pace. mark by the sea

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