Andrews: Let's make sure defeat was a blip

The Argus: Keith Andews Keith Andews

KEITH Andrews has urged Albion to ensure their Boxing Day knockout at Charlton is no more than a blip.

A 3-2 defeat at The Valley ended in-form Seagulls’ five-match unbeaten away run and gave struggling Charlton their first win in six games.

Midfielder Andrews, recalled for his first start in almost two months, said: “They were cheap goals. Hopefully it’s a blip and we can say we didn’t get the rub of the green, with clearances or balls just falling to them. The proof will be in the pudding in the next few games. We need to knuckle down.”

Andrews refused to blame the defence as Albion, again without captain Gordon Greer (calf), conceded three goals in the middle portion of the match after Leo Ulloa put them ahead on his return to the starting line-up.

Andrews said: “Adam (El-Abd) has come in and looked fantastic and the back four has been fairly steady in the last few weeks. It’s not just the back four, it’s the whole team defending.

“In the first half we felt fairly in control of the game. In the second half the pitch did deteriorate and forced us into going a little bit more direct but conditions were the same for both teams so that cannot be used as an excuse. We’ll be looking to put things right in the next game.”

Greer remains doubtful for Sunday’s trip to Blackpool, as is first choice right-back Bruno after he went off at half-time as a precaution with a tight adductor (thigh).

Kazenga LuaLua, ruled out yesterday by a ban, will be available.

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7:31am Fri 27 Dec 13

Albion In Staffs says...

Re: headline... Yes, let's.......
Re: headline... Yes, let's....... Albion In Staffs

8:43am Fri 27 Dec 13

Far gull says...

Always a blip when Andrews plays,ask any Blackburn or Bolton supporter they were all glad to see him leave,he passes more to the opposition than his own team. Never a good sign for a win.
On a positive not thanks for the reply in another thread by another fellow fan yesterday 'the only good thing ,was a exellent burger on the way home from the game'
Always a blip when Andrews plays,ask any Blackburn or Bolton supporter they were all glad to see him leave,he passes more to the opposition than his own team. Never a good sign for a win. On a positive not thanks for the reply in another thread by another fellow fan yesterday 'the only good thing ,was a exellent burger on the way home from the game' Far gull

8:47am Fri 27 Dec 13

WoodingdeanDS says...

Perhaps Andrews hasn't been paying attention - there have been 6 'blips' so far this season, and I don't suppose they will stop with this result.
Perhaps Andrews hasn't been paying attention - there have been 6 'blips' so far this season, and I don't suppose they will stop with this result. WoodingdeanDS

9:08am Fri 27 Dec 13

SMF20 says...

A massive opportunity missed in these last 2 games and tbh I don't see us getting anything at Blackpool either.

I think we have the players to reach the playoffs but sadly our inconsistency and lack of confidence from a number of key players is costing us dearly.
Is this due to formation and players selected? Probably.

Thus far we have 8 points from the top 6 sides and 6 points from the bottom 6 sides.
Is the problem complacency? Or could it just be that the more defensive line up we play against the better teams should be one that is changed for something more positive against the lower placed sides.

As big a fan as I am, I just can't see past mid table with our current set up... I believe we have the players but until they are played in a position that allows them to utilise their skill set, then for me, it's top 10 at best.... A real shame.

Uta
A massive opportunity missed in these last 2 games and tbh I don't see us getting anything at Blackpool either. I think we have the players to reach the playoffs but sadly our inconsistency and lack of confidence from a number of key players is costing us dearly. Is this due to formation and players selected? Probably. Thus far we have 8 points from the top 6 sides and 6 points from the bottom 6 sides. Is the problem complacency? Or could it just be that the more defensive line up we play against the better teams should be one that is changed for something more positive against the lower placed sides. As big a fan as I am, I just can't see past mid table with our current set up... I believe we have the players but until they are played in a position that allows them to utilise their skill set, then for me, it's top 10 at best.... A real shame. Uta SMF20

9:28am Fri 27 Dec 13

Alfie T says...

Far gull wrote:
Always a blip when Andrews plays,ask any Blackburn or Bolton supporter they were all glad to see him leave,he passes more to the opposition than his own team. Never a good sign for a win.
On a positive not thanks for the reply in another thread by another fellow fan yesterday 'the only good thing ,was a exellent burger on the way home from the game'
Andrews had his best game since joining us yesterday, we might need him when Liam departs. Buckley is the biggest worry, seems to be down on pace, needs confidence and to start on the right, good to have Kaz back.
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote: Always a blip when Andrews plays,ask any Blackburn or Bolton supporter they were all glad to see him leave,he passes more to the opposition than his own team. Never a good sign for a win. On a positive not thanks for the reply in another thread by another fellow fan yesterday 'the only good thing ,was a exellent burger on the way home from the game'[/p][/quote]Andrews had his best game since joining us yesterday, we might need him when Liam departs. Buckley is the biggest worry, seems to be down on pace, needs confidence and to start on the right, good to have Kaz back. Alfie T

9:32am Fri 27 Dec 13

MHubbs says...

SMF20 wrote:
A massive opportunity missed in these last 2 games and tbh I don't see us getting anything at Blackpool either.

I think we have the players to reach the playoffs but sadly our inconsistency and lack of confidence from a number of key players is costing us dearly.
Is this due to formation and players selected? Probably.

Thus far we have 8 points from the top 6 sides and 6 points from the bottom 6 sides.
Is the problem complacency? Or could it just be that the more defensive line up we play against the better teams should be one that is changed for something more positive against the lower placed sides.

As big a fan as I am, I just can't see past mid table with our current set up... I believe we have the players but until they are played in a position that allows them to utilise their skill set, then for me, it's top 10 at best.... A real shame.

Uta
I felt similarly last season before we put it all together and charged into the playoffs.
It's common accross the championship to have a great run and then stall. Overall I think we have the squad to push for a place. Much depends on belief and confidence. Added to this is a commitment against the lower sides that we produce when we play the top clubs.

I think we will make the playoffs this year but it promises to be close.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: A massive opportunity missed in these last 2 games and tbh I don't see us getting anything at Blackpool either. I think we have the players to reach the playoffs but sadly our inconsistency and lack of confidence from a number of key players is costing us dearly. Is this due to formation and players selected? Probably. Thus far we have 8 points from the top 6 sides and 6 points from the bottom 6 sides. Is the problem complacency? Or could it just be that the more defensive line up we play against the better teams should be one that is changed for something more positive against the lower placed sides. As big a fan as I am, I just can't see past mid table with our current set up... I believe we have the players but until they are played in a position that allows them to utilise their skill set, then for me, it's top 10 at best.... A real shame. Uta[/p][/quote]I felt similarly last season before we put it all together and charged into the playoffs. It's common accross the championship to have a great run and then stall. Overall I think we have the squad to push for a place. Much depends on belief and confidence. Added to this is a commitment against the lower sides that we produce when we play the top clubs. I think we will make the playoffs this year but it promises to be close. MHubbs

10:17am Fri 27 Dec 13

Alfie T says...

Simply cannot believe the level of negative comments on this site, digs at the manager and his assistant. Since November we have won 5 drawn 2 and lost 2. Should have got something from both lost games, we currently sit three points off a play off spot and most of this achieved with half the team injured.

We have most of the squad returning to fitness now, only CMS to return, my only concern is over our ageing defence, they will get us through this season, but needs investment soon.

I if you had offered me our league position at Christmas with the level of injuries we have had at the start of the season I would have taken it in a heart beat, let's try to be positive please.
Simply cannot believe the level of negative comments on this site, digs at the manager and his assistant. Since November we have won 5 drawn 2 and lost 2. Should have got something from both lost games, we currently sit three points off a play off spot and most of this achieved with half the team injured. We have most of the squad returning to fitness now, only CMS to return, my only concern is over our ageing defence, they will get us through this season, but needs investment soon. I if you had offered me our league position at Christmas with the level of injuries we have had at the start of the season I would have taken it in a heart beat, let's try to be positive please. Alfie T

11:15am Fri 27 Dec 13

albion64 says...

Alfie T wrote:
Simply cannot believe the level of negative comments on this site, digs at the manager and his assistant. Since November we have won 5 drawn 2 and lost 2. Should have got something from both lost games, we currently sit three points off a play off spot and most of this achieved with half the team injured.

We have most of the squad returning to fitness now, only CMS to return, my only concern is over our ageing defence, they will get us through this season, but needs investment soon.

I if you had offered me our league position at Christmas with the level of injuries we have had at the start of the season I would have taken it in a heart beat, let's try to be positive please.
Every one is entitled to their own opinion, so negative comments are bound to come out with the team stuttering at the moment. After all you mentioned our ageing defence and whether it would see us through this season.

Andrews mentioned the pitch cutting up and they had to hit long balls (as an excuse) .He then said it was the same for both teams and wasn't indeed an excuse. Charlton managed to pass on the deck (mud bath) and exposed our defence with ease as the game went on. We could have lost by a few more, with 10 men left on the pitch. So scoreline looked respectable in the end. Being positive, we need our players fit again and we should be ok. To ask Andrews to play our passing game is never going to work. We need technical players to hold on to the ball. No offence to the bloke and you can see he gives it 100%. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote: Simply cannot believe the level of negative comments on this site, digs at the manager and his assistant. Since November we have won 5 drawn 2 and lost 2. Should have got something from both lost games, we currently sit three points off a play off spot and most of this achieved with half the team injured. We have most of the squad returning to fitness now, only CMS to return, my only concern is over our ageing defence, they will get us through this season, but needs investment soon. I if you had offered me our league position at Christmas with the level of injuries we have had at the start of the season I would have taken it in a heart beat, let's try to be positive please.[/p][/quote]Every one is entitled to their own opinion, so negative comments are bound to come out with the team stuttering at the moment. After all you mentioned our ageing defence and whether it would see us through this season. Andrews mentioned the pitch cutting up and they had to hit long balls (as an excuse) .He then said it was the same for both teams and wasn't indeed an excuse. Charlton managed to pass on the deck (mud bath) and exposed our defence with ease as the game went on. We could have lost by a few more, with 10 men left on the pitch. So scoreline looked respectable in the end. Being positive, we need our players fit again and we should be ok. To ask Andrews to play our passing game is never going to work. We need technical players to hold on to the ball. No offence to the bloke and you can see he gives it 100%. UTA albion64

11:27am Fri 27 Dec 13

russellsnr says...

Why is it we get all the moans about loosing a game?
It is impossible to go through a season without loosing some games.
We have played 22 games and lost six of those, Man utd have played played 18 and lost 5, Arsenal top of the prem but still lost 3 games from 18 played.
Because we loose to a team or two teams near the foot of the table it is not the end of the world, both those teams are fighting to climb up so as with any team at the bottom it will always be difficult to go and win or even draw.
As we go into 2014 I am optimistic that Brighton and Hove Albion will be there or there abouts at the end of the season, we have a squad of very good players and a good successor to Gus P in Oscar (just wish Mr Jones would give Oscar a chance to give his opinions on games on these Argus pages and on the Seagulls web site).
We will probably read on these pages who the Albion are hoping to bring in during the January window and then who we just missed out on, will there be another Leo Ulloa quality player out there for us? Will Liam Bridcutt go out? Many questions in the mind of all of us as Seagulls supporters I am sure but the only thing we can do is wait and see what 2014 brings us.
Hope everyone at the club and all of you have a very good 2014.
Why is it we get all the moans about loosing a game? It is impossible to go through a season without loosing some games. We have played 22 games and lost six of those, Man utd have played played 18 and lost 5, Arsenal top of the prem but still lost 3 games from 18 played. Because we loose to a team or two teams near the foot of the table it is not the end of the world, both those teams are fighting to climb up so as with any team at the bottom it will always be difficult to go and win or even draw. As we go into 2014 I am optimistic that Brighton and Hove Albion will be there or there abouts at the end of the season, we have a squad of very good players and a good successor to Gus P in Oscar (just wish Mr Jones would give Oscar a chance to give his opinions on games on these Argus pages and on the Seagulls web site). We will probably read on these pages who the Albion are hoping to bring in during the January window and then who we just missed out on, will there be another Leo Ulloa quality player out there for us? Will Liam Bridcutt go out? Many questions in the mind of all of us as Seagulls supporters I am sure but the only thing we can do is wait and see what 2014 brings us. Hope everyone at the club and all of you have a very good 2014. russellsnr

11:39am Fri 27 Dec 13

Neville says...

The pattern of each match whether home or away is now becoming very predictable.
At home we enjoy most of the possession,even at 0-0, in our own half then the long ball to a lone striker.The wingers,we often only seem to play one,rarely looks up before crossing and the midfielders generally don't shoot and apart from Crofts just don't score any goals,the same as past seasons under GP.
Away at Charlton we had 65% possession,again mainly in our own half where we can't hurt teams and only when trailing by two goals did we play two strikers,which did cause Charlton more problems.
We have a pretty strong squad,despite the current crop of injuries but none of them seem to be consistent and we never play the same team two matches running. OG has done a good job but definitely has failings in my opinion. Too negative with bench selections at home and the lone striker I know is favoured,but we have dropped far too many points at home,so we need to try a twin attack,get an early impetus and then if he wishes close things up by going back to one striker.The Lita situation seems ludicrous.
I said before the match yesterday that you should play your best players and TK should have been first choice. PB is unfortunately an error waiting to happen and I guess now that 3 goals have been conceded we might hopefully see TK back.
Blackpool yesterday looked a good side and I don't think we will pick any points up there and Bournemouth probably another draw,hope I am wrong but not too optimistic.
I note that NJ is now the main mouthpiece for Albion match analysis,OG seems to shun the spotlight,he really needs to show some passion and fans want to hear from him.
The pattern of each match whether home or away is now becoming very predictable. At home we enjoy most of the possession,even at 0-0, in our own half then the long ball to a lone striker.The wingers,we often only seem to play one,rarely looks up before crossing and the midfielders generally don't shoot and apart from Crofts just don't score any goals,the same as past seasons under GP. Away at Charlton we had 65% possession,again mainly in our own half where we can't hurt teams and only when trailing by two goals did we play two strikers,which did cause Charlton more problems. We have a pretty strong squad,despite the current crop of injuries but none of them seem to be consistent and we never play the same team two matches running. OG has done a good job but definitely has failings in my opinion. Too negative with bench selections at home and the lone striker I know is favoured,but we have dropped far too many points at home,so we need to try a twin attack,get an early impetus and then if he wishes close things up by going back to one striker.The Lita situation seems ludicrous. I said before the match yesterday that you should play your best players and TK should have been first choice. PB is unfortunately an error waiting to happen and I guess now that 3 goals have been conceded we might hopefully see TK back. Blackpool yesterday looked a good side and I don't think we will pick any points up there and Bournemouth probably another draw,hope I am wrong but not too optimistic. I note that NJ is now the main mouthpiece for Albion match analysis,OG seems to shun the spotlight,he really needs to show some passion and fans want to hear from him. Neville

11:48am Fri 27 Dec 13

Neville says...

This next month is crucial in more ways than one,Bridcutt I suggest is already a done deal, Ulloa possibly the subject of a bid from a lower half Prem side,don't rule out a GP double bid and possibly Barnes on way as well, remember he still has not signed a contract extension. Conway I hope will be signed as he is the best crosser of a ball by far.
Bearing in mind the players who are on loan and those whose contracts run out at the end of this season,we will be down to the bare bones of a team and a massive rebuild is on the cards and with that more time required to gel a side together. I just feel that if we don't push on and make the play offs this time around,and currently I don't think we are good enough, then I fear we will have a season of consolidation next term with a totally new look line up.
We certainly need to get Ince on a long term deal and JFC and SM seem to have gone off the radar now, Chicksen and Masimenko we just don't hear about at all.
The defence will need replacing due to age and lack of pace and in my opinion we need some attacking midfield options. It will be interesting to see what TB decides to spend (assuming we sell) to placate the fans.
This next month is crucial in more ways than one,Bridcutt I suggest is already a done deal, Ulloa possibly the subject of a bid from a lower half Prem side,don't rule out a GP double bid and possibly Barnes on way as well, remember he still has not signed a contract extension. Conway I hope will be signed as he is the best crosser of a ball by far. Bearing in mind the players who are on loan and those whose contracts run out at the end of this season,we will be down to the bare bones of a team and a massive rebuild is on the cards and with that more time required to gel a side together. I just feel that if we don't push on and make the play offs this time around,and currently I don't think we are good enough, then I fear we will have a season of consolidation next term with a totally new look line up. We certainly need to get Ince on a long term deal and JFC and SM seem to have gone off the radar now, Chicksen and Masimenko we just don't hear about at all. The defence will need replacing due to age and lack of pace and in my opinion we need some attacking midfield options. It will be interesting to see what TB decides to spend (assuming we sell) to placate the fans. Neville

12:36pm Fri 27 Dec 13

tug509 says...

Neville wrote:
This next month is crucial in more ways than one,Bridcutt I suggest is already a done deal, Ulloa possibly the subject of a bid from a lower half Prem side,don't rule out a GP double bid and possibly Barnes on way as well, remember he still has not signed a contract extension. Conway I hope will be signed as he is the best crosser of a ball by far.
Bearing in mind the players who are on loan and those whose contracts run out at the end of this season,we will be down to the bare bones of a team and a massive rebuild is on the cards and with that more time required to gel a side together. I just feel that if we don't push on and make the play offs this time around,and currently I don't think we are good enough, then I fear we will have a season of consolidation next term with a totally new look line up.
We certainly need to get Ince on a long term deal and JFC and SM seem to have gone off the radar now, Chicksen and Masimenko we just don't hear about at all.
The defence will need replacing due to age and lack of pace and in my opinion we need some attacking midfield options. It will be interesting to see what TB decides to spend (assuming we sell) to placate the fans.
Frighteningly accurate ,these are the facts we have to face up to.
Going back to the Charlton game ,as some have intimated above .
1,We left our first choice keeper on the bench.
2,We played Buckley on the left.
3,We left Ince on the bench.
4,We only played one striker ,when it was obvious when Barnes came on that we needed two,and by then it was too late.

Some say that it`s easy to see the faults after the game ,i would suggest that these are faults that a blind man could see a mile off. For me the argument is not ,that we have only lost 6 games ,but that we all know we should not have lost to Barnsley or Charlton ,we all have our own team choices ,but none of us would play Buckley on the left ,something has to change ,because ,at the moment we are hamstringing ourselves !. UTA
[quote][p][bold]Neville[/bold] wrote: This next month is crucial in more ways than one,Bridcutt I suggest is already a done deal, Ulloa possibly the subject of a bid from a lower half Prem side,don't rule out a GP double bid and possibly Barnes on way as well, remember he still has not signed a contract extension. Conway I hope will be signed as he is the best crosser of a ball by far. Bearing in mind the players who are on loan and those whose contracts run out at the end of this season,we will be down to the bare bones of a team and a massive rebuild is on the cards and with that more time required to gel a side together. I just feel that if we don't push on and make the play offs this time around,and currently I don't think we are good enough, then I fear we will have a season of consolidation next term with a totally new look line up. We certainly need to get Ince on a long term deal and JFC and SM seem to have gone off the radar now, Chicksen and Masimenko we just don't hear about at all. The defence will need replacing due to age and lack of pace and in my opinion we need some attacking midfield options. It will be interesting to see what TB decides to spend (assuming we sell) to placate the fans.[/p][/quote]Frighteningly accurate ,these are the facts we have to face up to. Going back to the Charlton game ,as some have intimated above . 1,We left our first choice keeper on the bench. 2,We played Buckley on the left. 3,We left Ince on the bench. 4,We only played one striker ,when it was obvious when Barnes came on that we needed two,and by then it was too late. Some say that it`s easy to see the faults after the game ,i would suggest that these are faults that a blind man could see a mile off. For me the argument is not ,that we have only lost 6 games ,but that we all know we should not have lost to Barnsley or Charlton ,we all have our own team choices ,but none of us would play Buckley on the left ,something has to change ,because ,at the moment we are hamstringing ourselves !. UTA tug509

12:44pm Fri 27 Dec 13

mikeygit says...

GUys who are at matches---what is the matter with Buckley this season, came with so much expectation but has he really gone off the boil??
GUys who are at matches---what is the matter with Buckley this season, came with so much expectation but has he really gone off the boil?? mikeygit

2:58pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Major Bloodboil says...

As soon as I saw the team that had been selected I thought that we would have a job getting a decent result. Too much tinkering and negativity. Why leave out exciting players like Rohan and Kemy (now that he has slimmed down and is fit)? I would also like to see Barnes play up front with Ulloa; just as he used to do so successfully with Murray. They caused some havoc when they eventually teamed up at Charlton. I don't think things will change though. mores the pity.
As soon as I saw the team that had been selected I thought that we would have a job getting a decent result. Too much tinkering and negativity. Why leave out exciting players like Rohan and Kemy (now that he has slimmed down and is fit)? I would also like to see Barnes play up front with Ulloa; just as he used to do so successfully with Murray. They caused some havoc when they eventually teamed up at Charlton. I don't think things will change though. mores the pity. Major Bloodboil

3:14pm Fri 27 Dec 13

wiseman of hove says...

mikeygit wrote:
GUys who are at matches---what is the matter with Buckley this season, came with so much expectation but has he really gone off the boil??
I was so excited at Will's early displays when he signed that I went and bought his mug at the Store. I posted a couple weeks ago that sadly he would not make my first eleven now. A shadow of the player he was. I cannot remember the last time he skinned a full back. His pace has gone.
Perhaps if Oscar and Nathan desisted from their ludicrous policy of playing him so much on on the left and instructed him to hug the right touch line, we might just see the resurrection of the good old fashioned winger we used to have
[quote][p][bold]mikeygit[/bold] wrote: GUys who are at matches---what is the matter with Buckley this season, came with so much expectation but has he really gone off the boil??[/p][/quote]I was so excited at Will's early displays when he signed that I went and bought his mug at the Store. I posted a couple weeks ago that sadly he would not make my first eleven now. A shadow of the player he was. I cannot remember the last time he skinned a full back. His pace has gone. Perhaps if Oscar and Nathan desisted from their ludicrous policy of playing him so much on on the left and instructed him to hug the right touch line, we might just see the resurrection of the good old fashioned winger we used to have wiseman of hove

4:42pm Fri 27 Dec 13

tinker111 says...

SO You say Abdab came in and was fantastic what you mean MAKES YOU LOOK GOODISH/ WELL POOR Sorry but Ince is many times better than you so back to your club ASAP Selection C/U again and please NO NO NO more of Jones the mouth sick to back teeth of him ,Charlie was better (not a lot) but if HEAD Coach /Manager cant speak then OUT
SO You say Abdab came in and was fantastic what you mean MAKES YOU LOOK GOODISH/ WELL POOR Sorry but Ince is many times better than you so back to your club ASAP Selection C/U again and please NO NO NO more of Jones the mouth sick to back teeth of him ,Charlie was better (not a lot) but if HEAD Coach /Manager cant speak then OUT tinker111

4:43pm Fri 27 Dec 13

pte says...

If team selection shows such a lack of football knowledge then could it be that neither OG or NJ are picking the team, instead it's TB?
If team selection shows such a lack of football knowledge then could it be that neither OG or NJ are picking the team, instead it's TB? pte

5:44pm Fri 27 Dec 13

SeagullOverSelsey says...

I am beginning to feel that OG is becoming a clone of GP in that they both tinker about with the team-in nearly every game there's two or three changes -why Ince is in and out of the side is beyond me-don't tell me they're afraid of "burnout"as referred to Crofts.Ince is still a teenager with bags of energy and one of the most exciting players I have seen at the Albion.-play him every game!
I am beginning to feel that OG is becoming a clone of GP in that they both tinker about with the team-in nearly every game there's two or three changes -why Ince is in and out of the side is beyond me-don't tell me they're afraid of "burnout"as referred to Crofts.Ince is still a teenager with bags of energy and one of the most exciting players I have seen at the Albion.-play him every game! SeagullOverSelsey

5:53pm Fri 27 Dec 13

tug509 says...

I wish Mr Bloom was picking the team at the moment ,he is no different to us ,he is a true supporter ,but imho ,he to he`s credit does not interfere ,i just know i am going to look a mug at the end of this ,but i say again ,i see too much NJ behind this ,but at least i have the mind to say what i think . As i said the other day like a broken record ,the alternative is that Oscar is poor at his job ,and i like the guy too much to want to believe that . UTA
I wish Mr Bloom was picking the team at the moment ,he is no different to us ,he is a true supporter ,but imho ,he to he`s credit does not interfere ,i just know i am going to look a mug at the end of this ,but i say again ,i see too much NJ behind this ,but at least i have the mind to say what i think . As i said the other day like a broken record ,the alternative is that Oscar is poor at his job ,and i like the guy too much to want to believe that . UTA tug509

6:59pm Fri 27 Dec 13

tug509 says...

Charlton fans ,to any who have a butchers on this site ,well done lads ,you`ve cost me a pint or three down the pub ,i don`t want to lose to anyone ,but ,if we do ,better you lads than a few i can think of ,just read a few comments on your site ,very fair ,good luck with the Wendies ,see you soon !. UTA
Charlton fans ,to any who have a butchers on this site ,well done lads ,you`ve cost me a pint or three down the pub ,i don`t want to lose to anyone ,but ,if we do ,better you lads than a few i can think of ,just read a few comments on your site ,very fair ,good luck with the Wendies ,see you soon !. UTA tug509

7:46pm Fri 27 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

tug509 wrote:
I wish Mr Bloom was picking the team at the moment ,he is no different to us ,he is a true supporter ,but imho ,he to he`s credit does not interfere ,i just know i am going to look a mug at the end of this ,but i say again ,i see too much NJ behind this ,but at least i have the mind to say what i think . As i said the other day like a broken record ,the alternative is that Oscar is poor at his job ,and i like the guy too much to want to believe that . UTA
Tug if you look at the line up and take into account recent performances, evaluate it not knowing the result, Andrews was the only one that we didn't really know about, and when I say that I am thinking of form.
Oscar sent out a strong eleven, good form for several of them and bags of experience all over the park. Errors in defense cost us the game, not just pointing the finger at the back five, there were others that didn't the job done. Crofts had a good game but also cost us a goal, according to reports.
Before the result was known I would never have thought that our back five, and others, would concede three goals, not the way they have been playing. It's a rare day when a team scores two goals away from home and still loses, and with our away form the chances of that happening to us didn't seem possible.
I have to out this loss down to the players and not Oscar, not this time.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: I wish Mr Bloom was picking the team at the moment ,he is no different to us ,he is a true supporter ,but imho ,he to he`s credit does not interfere ,i just know i am going to look a mug at the end of this ,but i say again ,i see too much NJ behind this ,but at least i have the mind to say what i think . As i said the other day like a broken record ,the alternative is that Oscar is poor at his job ,and i like the guy too much to want to believe that . UTA[/p][/quote]Tug if you look at the line up and take into account recent performances, evaluate it not knowing the result, Andrews was the only one that we didn't really know about, and when I say that I am thinking of form. Oscar sent out a strong eleven, good form for several of them and bags of experience all over the park. Errors in defense cost us the game, not just pointing the finger at the back five, there were others that didn't the job done. Crofts had a good game but also cost us a goal, according to reports. Before the result was known I would never have thought that our back five, and others, would concede three goals, not the way they have been playing. It's a rare day when a team scores two goals away from home and still loses, and with our away form the chances of that happening to us didn't seem possible. I have to out this loss down to the players and not Oscar, not this time. VegasSeagull

8:12pm Fri 27 Dec 13

namgo49 says...

It seems unlikely Bridcutt will go to Sunderland as apparently GP hs no money to spend, which will please him. I guess Fulham or Palace are the most likely particularly as he is a southern boy anyway.

On related matters to the article, I am told the pitch at Charlton was close to unplayable as it will be on Sunday on the infamous Bloomfield Road. Our best bet is for an abandonment until the spring.

On the comments here Buckley will play well if he plays down the right, he is useless playing down the left. Apparently Brezovan was weak yesterday so hopefully he will find himself back on the bench with TK restored to his rightful status as numero uno. Lopez did nothing useful and needs to be rested. Conway still training with the side apparently so he will be back after the Bournemouth game hopefully. Hadn't realised Lualua was suspended?

Prediction, one point max over the Christmas / New Year with hopefully the Blackpool game postponed, if not so we shall lose with Dobbie scoring and at best draw, with Bournemouth.

A bleak period!!
It seems unlikely Bridcutt will go to Sunderland as apparently GP hs no money to spend, which will please him. I guess Fulham or Palace are the most likely particularly as he is a southern boy anyway. On related matters to the article, I am told the pitch at Charlton was close to unplayable as it will be on Sunday on the infamous Bloomfield Road. Our best bet is for an abandonment until the spring. On the comments here Buckley will play well if he plays down the right, he is useless playing down the left. Apparently Brezovan was weak yesterday so hopefully he will find himself back on the bench with TK restored to his rightful status as numero uno. Lopez did nothing useful and needs to be rested. Conway still training with the side apparently so he will be back after the Bournemouth game hopefully. Hadn't realised Lualua was suspended? Prediction, one point max over the Christmas / New Year with hopefully the Blackpool game postponed, if not so we shall lose with Dobbie scoring and at best draw, with Bournemouth. A bleak period!! namgo49

8:45pm Fri 27 Dec 13

To baldly go says...

Having had a day to think over what happened at the valley, I am still disappointed at what happened, to much team rotation for my liking!
Ince should be first on the team sheet followed by Bridcutt who he seems to be building a good understanding with, Andrews was very poor and I am now becoming disillusioned with him! Bruno seems to be playing on the back of what he used to do and not what he can do now, same with Lopez, both very disappointing! Caldi should start ahead of Bruno as he is much more reliable and consistent, and Agustien ahead of Lopez. El-Abd was lucky to stay on the pitch and is out of his depth when put under pressure, Greer back next match please, although not fast he makes up for it with his positional play but won't be around much longer. Brez was poor, his positioning for the third goal was a joke and he won't play again unless others are injured, let's give Walker the job as understudy to TK as he is our future keeper. Buckley, on the left! who's call was that! and they must have filled his boots with lead, I could have out run him in my slippers.
I am not Barnes biggest fan, but play him just off Ulloa and he will score more and be dangerous.
Teams will come to the Amex to defend, we all know that, so let's attack them and give them some defending to do, not tap it around in our own half! And away from home like yesterday, teams will want to play which should also suit us, so again attack them but with width and Ulloa up front so we can spread the play and give the opposition something to think about.
A few changes again on Saturday will happen, but let that be the end of the consistent changes and get some consistency into the team please and get some understanding amongst the players. We can still do this but it's getting harder with every game and if we don't make the playoffs at least, I fear the team will dis-band and we will have to build again. UTA
Having had a day to think over what happened at the valley, I am still disappointed at what happened, to much team rotation for my liking! Ince should be first on the team sheet followed by Bridcutt who he seems to be building a good understanding with, Andrews was very poor and I am now becoming disillusioned with him! Bruno seems to be playing on the back of what he used to do and not what he can do now, same with Lopez, both very disappointing! Caldi should start ahead of Bruno as he is much more reliable and consistent, and Agustien ahead of Lopez. El-Abd was lucky to stay on the pitch and is out of his depth when put under pressure, Greer back next match please, although not fast he makes up for it with his positional play but won't be around much longer. Brez was poor, his positioning for the third goal was a joke and he won't play again unless others are injured, let's give Walker the job as understudy to TK as he is our future keeper. Buckley, on the left! who's call was that! and they must have filled his boots with lead, I could have out run him in my slippers. I am not Barnes biggest fan, but play him just off Ulloa and he will score more and be dangerous. Teams will come to the Amex to defend, we all know that, so let's attack them and give them some defending to do, not tap it around in our own half! And away from home like yesterday, teams will want to play which should also suit us, so again attack them but with width and Ulloa up front so we can spread the play and give the opposition something to think about. A few changes again on Saturday will happen, but let that be the end of the consistent changes and get some consistency into the team please and get some understanding amongst the players. We can still do this but it's getting harder with every game and if we don't make the playoffs at least, I fear the team will dis-band and we will have to build again. UTA To baldly go

9:55pm Fri 27 Dec 13

namgo49 says...

To baldly go wrote:
Having had a day to think over what happened at the valley, I am still disappointed at what happened, to much team rotation for my liking!
Ince should be first on the team sheet followed by Bridcutt who he seems to be building a good understanding with, Andrews was very poor and I am now becoming disillusioned with him! Bruno seems to be playing on the back of what he used to do and not what he can do now, same with Lopez, both very disappointing! Caldi should start ahead of Bruno as he is much more reliable and consistent, and Agustien ahead of Lopez. El-Abd was lucky to stay on the pitch and is out of his depth when put under pressure, Greer back next match please, although not fast he makes up for it with his positional play but won't be around much longer. Brez was poor, his positioning for the third goal was a joke and he won't play again unless others are injured, let's give Walker the job as understudy to TK as he is our future keeper. Buckley, on the left! who's call was that! and they must have filled his boots with lead, I could have out run him in my slippers.
I am not Barnes biggest fan, but play him just off Ulloa and he will score more and be dangerous.
Teams will come to the Amex to defend, we all know that, so let's attack them and give them some defending to do, not tap it around in our own half! And away from home like yesterday, teams will want to play which should also suit us, so again attack them but with width and Ulloa up front so we can spread the play and give the opposition something to think about.
A few changes again on Saturday will happen, but let that be the end of the consistent changes and get some consistency into the team please and get some understanding amongst the players. We can still do this but it's getting harder with every game and if we don't make the playoffs at least, I fear the team will dis-band and we will have to build again. UTA
Top post except Sunday not Saturday.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: Having had a day to think over what happened at the valley, I am still disappointed at what happened, to much team rotation for my liking! Ince should be first on the team sheet followed by Bridcutt who he seems to be building a good understanding with, Andrews was very poor and I am now becoming disillusioned with him! Bruno seems to be playing on the back of what he used to do and not what he can do now, same with Lopez, both very disappointing! Caldi should start ahead of Bruno as he is much more reliable and consistent, and Agustien ahead of Lopez. El-Abd was lucky to stay on the pitch and is out of his depth when put under pressure, Greer back next match please, although not fast he makes up for it with his positional play but won't be around much longer. Brez was poor, his positioning for the third goal was a joke and he won't play again unless others are injured, let's give Walker the job as understudy to TK as he is our future keeper. Buckley, on the left! who's call was that! and they must have filled his boots with lead, I could have out run him in my slippers. I am not Barnes biggest fan, but play him just off Ulloa and he will score more and be dangerous. Teams will come to the Amex to defend, we all know that, so let's attack them and give them some defending to do, not tap it around in our own half! And away from home like yesterday, teams will want to play which should also suit us, so again attack them but with width and Ulloa up front so we can spread the play and give the opposition something to think about. A few changes again on Saturday will happen, but let that be the end of the consistent changes and get some consistency into the team please and get some understanding amongst the players. We can still do this but it's getting harder with every game and if we don't make the playoffs at least, I fear the team will dis-band and we will have to build again. UTA[/p][/quote]Top post except Sunday not Saturday. namgo49

6:49am Sat 28 Dec 13

bbb1969 says...

Ne striker works most off the time and to be fair we have either not finished or wr have defended poorly. Keeping position in your own half is not a bad thing if the opposition have to chase the ball down and then when the other team is stretched, then you play the ball. It is a common tactic but you need players on the pitch who can also take the ball forward and create something in the last third. Ince and Augustien did this but not there for a full game for Charlton. Team selection was an issue at Charlton along with poor defending and Liam is not firing on full cylinders.
The game could have been won as when we did get in the last third we hit the post and made the wrong decision not to shoot when we had the opportunity. Ulloa did this a couple of times but you can forgive him as it was his first game back and he bagged two.
Blackpool are also there for the taking as they must be gutted based on where they were and where they are now so lets take advantage and hammer them.
I would like to see a 4-4-2 away and at home but I know the 1 up front is favoured so Albion need to take their chances.
Ne striker works most off the time and to be fair we have either not finished or wr have defended poorly. Keeping position in your own half is not a bad thing if the opposition have to chase the ball down and then when the other team is stretched, then you play the ball. It is a common tactic but you need players on the pitch who can also take the ball forward and create something in the last third. Ince and Augustien did this but not there for a full game for Charlton. Team selection was an issue at Charlton along with poor defending and Liam is not firing on full cylinders. The game could have been won as when we did get in the last third we hit the post and made the wrong decision not to shoot when we had the opportunity. Ulloa did this a couple of times but you can forgive him as it was his first game back and he bagged two. Blackpool are also there for the taking as they must be gutted based on where they were and where they are now so lets take advantage and hammer them. I would like to see a 4-4-2 away and at home but I know the 1 up front is favoured so Albion need to take their chances. bbb1969

10:07am Sat 28 Dec 13

tug509 says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
tug509 wrote:
I wish Mr Bloom was picking the team at the moment ,he is no different to us ,he is a true supporter ,but imho ,he to he`s credit does not interfere ,i just know i am going to look a mug at the end of this ,but i say again ,i see too much NJ behind this ,but at least i have the mind to say what i think . As i said the other day like a broken record ,the alternative is that Oscar is poor at his job ,and i like the guy too much to want to believe that . UTA
Tug if you look at the line up and take into account recent performances, evaluate it not knowing the result, Andrews was the only one that we didn't really know about, and when I say that I am thinking of form.
Oscar sent out a strong eleven, good form for several of them and bags of experience all over the park. Errors in defense cost us the game, not just pointing the finger at the back five, there were others that didn't the job done. Crofts had a good game but also cost us a goal, according to reports.
Before the result was known I would never have thought that our back five, and others, would concede three goals, not the way they have been playing. It's a rare day when a team scores two goals away from home and still loses, and with our away form the chances of that happening to us didn't seem possible.
I have to out this loss down to the players and not Oscar, not this time.
Hi Vegas ,sorry but i have to disagree ,wrong keeper ,wrong side of the pitch for our so called pace WB ,Andrews for Agustien ,no ince and no help for Ulloa ,which altogether cost us imho ! ,i hope as others do ,that at Blackpool we will put these things right ,Oscar not NJ . UTA
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: I wish Mr Bloom was picking the team at the moment ,he is no different to us ,he is a true supporter ,but imho ,he to he`s credit does not interfere ,i just know i am going to look a mug at the end of this ,but i say again ,i see too much NJ behind this ,but at least i have the mind to say what i think . As i said the other day like a broken record ,the alternative is that Oscar is poor at his job ,and i like the guy too much to want to believe that . UTA[/p][/quote]Tug if you look at the line up and take into account recent performances, evaluate it not knowing the result, Andrews was the only one that we didn't really know about, and when I say that I am thinking of form. Oscar sent out a strong eleven, good form for several of them and bags of experience all over the park. Errors in defense cost us the game, not just pointing the finger at the back five, there were others that didn't the job done. Crofts had a good game but also cost us a goal, according to reports. Before the result was known I would never have thought that our back five, and others, would concede three goals, not the way they have been playing. It's a rare day when a team scores two goals away from home and still loses, and with our away form the chances of that happening to us didn't seem possible. I have to out this loss down to the players and not Oscar, not this time.[/p][/quote]Hi Vegas ,sorry but i have to disagree ,wrong keeper ,wrong side of the pitch for our so called pace WB ,Andrews for Agustien ,no ince and no help for Ulloa ,which altogether cost us imho ! ,i hope as others do ,that at Blackpool we will put these things right ,Oscar not NJ . UTA tug509

1:08pm Sat 28 Dec 13

tinker111 says...

Andrews you are not the class we want here ,should not have been in side ,selection C/U again go back to where you came from
Andrews you are not the class we want here ,should not have been in side ,selection C/U again go back to where you came from tinker111

1:10pm Sat 28 Dec 13

tinker111 says...

pte wrote:
If team selection shows such a lack of football knowledge then could it be that neither OG or NJ are picking the team, instead it's TB?
Could well be another CARDIFF ???
[quote][p][bold]pte[/bold] wrote: If team selection shows such a lack of football knowledge then could it be that neither OG or NJ are picking the team, instead it's TB?[/p][/quote]Could well be another CARDIFF ??? tinker111

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