Ince in running for recall

The Argus: Rohan Ince has been a key man this season Rohan Ince has been a key man this season

Rohan Ince is on course for a family clash at Blackpool tomorrow.

The young Albion midfielder is a distant cousin of Blackpool winger Tom, whose dad Paul is manager.

Ince, 21, rested for the Boxing Day defeat at Charlton, is likely to return to the starting line-up with head coach Oscar Garcia looking to rotate the team again to cope with the busy festive schedule.

Albion are unbeaten since the first week of the season with Ince in the starting line-up.

Tomasz Kuszczak, Kemy Agustien, Ashley Barnes and the suspension-free Kazenga LuaLua are also in contention for recalls.

Leo Ulloa, who scored both goals at Charlton, could make his second start in four days after more than two months out with a fractured foot bone.

Oscar’s assistant Nathan Jones said: “It’s good to have the big man back. We need him flying, he’s a fantastic player.

“We’ve got good competition in that area with him and Barnesy, who’s been in very good form as well. It’s a big plus point.”

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11:40am Sat 28 Dec 13

Captain Haddock says...

It will be a welcome return!
It will be a welcome return! Captain Haddock

11:59am Sat 28 Dec 13

saraman says...

If Bridcutt is being sold then leave him out of the 11 to play Blackpool. His heart and mind will not be in it anyway. Ince must therefore be in the starting 11. Apparently Bridcutt had a bit of a stinker against Charlton.
If Bridcutt is being sold then leave him out of the 11 to play Blackpool. His heart and mind will not be in it anyway. Ince must therefore be in the starting 11. Apparently Bridcutt had a bit of a stinker against Charlton. saraman

12:00pm Sat 28 Dec 13

mark by the sea says...

Probably the plus of the season , very good player, who I have to say would like to see play centre back once he has lost his rough edges.. Rohan played 90% of his football at Chelsea as a centre back , I also read the other report about bridcutt. , and Andrews at 33 years of age"! Big concern is these guys playing a lot of games ...
The signing of Lita looks now like a decision from the backroom rather than the manager, I would imagine Lita is boiling having his time wasted , at his age he wants to be on loan to a club who actually want. Him.
Probably the plus of the season , very good player, who I have to say would like to see play centre back once he has lost his rough edges.. Rohan played 90% of his football at Chelsea as a centre back , I also read the other report about bridcutt. , and Andrews at 33 years of age"! Big concern is these guys playing a lot of games ... The signing of Lita looks now like a decision from the backroom rather than the manager, I would imagine Lita is boiling having his time wasted , at his age he wants to be on loan to a club who actually want. Him. mark by the sea

12:03pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Albion fan in London says...

I hope PIG is starting today the rest are much of a muchness whichever way OG goes. 3pts is important today to stay in touch
I hope PIG is starting today the rest are much of a muchness whichever way OG goes. 3pts is important today to stay in touch Albion fan in London

12:26pm Sat 28 Dec 13

To baldly go says...

mark by the sea wrote:
Probably the plus of the season , very good player, who I have to say would like to see play centre back once he has lost his rough edges.. Rohan played 90% of his football at Chelsea as a centre back , I also read the other report about bridcutt. , and Andrews at 33 years of age"! Big concern is these guys playing a lot of games ...
The signing of Lita looks now like a decision from the backroom rather than the manager, I would imagine Lita is boiling having his time wasted , at his age he wants to be on loan to a club who actually want. Him.
Agree he is find of the season and should be offered a 4/5 year deal ASAP,
Not so sure about him being CB! The way he has improved in the midfield role given him, for me is the way to go. If we can keep Bridcutt as well, I think we have the beginnings of a formidable partnership and something we could take to the prem no worries. Agree with the concern for the older guys playing a lot of games but we need to get some consistancy/understa
nding within the team as a priority, a lot of guys are just back from injury so in one way should be fresh and able to cope with games back to back, do we rest Ulloa after the charlton match! I hope not.
on the Lita issue, I like a lot of others are disapointed we didn't see more of the guy, if Cms is a way of playing we still need cover, we could have used Lita by now and have a good idea if he would fit in with the team, instead we are back to square one, if, god forbid, Ulloa picks up another knock we are back to Barnes who is NOT a striker. Please don't go for another sick note in the kid from spurs, we want someone who can come on and change things, Lita could have been that man.
Confident for tomorrow, going to be a few team changes again but let's play players in their right positions please. UTA
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote: Probably the plus of the season , very good player, who I have to say would like to see play centre back once he has lost his rough edges.. Rohan played 90% of his football at Chelsea as a centre back , I also read the other report about bridcutt. , and Andrews at 33 years of age"! Big concern is these guys playing a lot of games ... The signing of Lita looks now like a decision from the backroom rather than the manager, I would imagine Lita is boiling having his time wasted , at his age he wants to be on loan to a club who actually want. Him.[/p][/quote]Agree he is find of the season and should be offered a 4/5 year deal ASAP, Not so sure about him being CB! The way he has improved in the midfield role given him, for me is the way to go. If we can keep Bridcutt as well, I think we have the beginnings of a formidable partnership and something we could take to the prem no worries. Agree with the concern for the older guys playing a lot of games but we need to get some consistancy/understa nding within the team as a priority, a lot of guys are just back from injury so in one way should be fresh and able to cope with games back to back, do we rest Ulloa after the charlton match! I hope not. on the Lita issue, I like a lot of others are disapointed we didn't see more of the guy, if Cms is a way of playing we still need cover, we could have used Lita by now and have a good idea if he would fit in with the team, instead we are back to square one, if, god forbid, Ulloa picks up another knock we are back to Barnes who is NOT a striker. Please don't go for another sick note in the kid from spurs, we want someone who can come on and change things, Lita could have been that man. Confident for tomorrow, going to be a few team changes again but let's play players in their right positions please. UTA To baldly go

12:37pm Sat 28 Dec 13

SMF20 says...

saraman wrote:
If Bridcutt is being sold then leave him out of the 11 to play Blackpool. His heart and mind will not be in it anyway. Ince must therefore be in the starting 11. Apparently Bridcutt had a bit of a stinker against Charlton.
As much as I hate to see it, I think you may be right my friend.

Given that OG doesn't seem to like 2 wide men i can see Ince in front of the back four with the other 3 midfield births filled by Crofts, Lua Lua and Agustien.
Ulloa up top with Barnes.
A 4-1-3-2 formation if you like and of course with Kuz back between the sticks.

Bench would be strong too with the likes of the returning Orlandi, Buckley and very hopefully Lita on it.

Don't get me wrong... If the intention is to keep Liam then he starts... It's a no brainer but if he is indeed off then let's crack on without him straight away.

Here's to a good showing tomorrow.

Uta
[quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: If Bridcutt is being sold then leave him out of the 11 to play Blackpool. His heart and mind will not be in it anyway. Ince must therefore be in the starting 11. Apparently Bridcutt had a bit of a stinker against Charlton.[/p][/quote]As much as I hate to see it, I think you may be right my friend. Given that OG doesn't seem to like 2 wide men i can see Ince in front of the back four with the other 3 midfield births filled by Crofts, Lua Lua and Agustien. Ulloa up top with Barnes. A 4-1-3-2 formation if you like and of course with Kuz back between the sticks. Bench would be strong too with the likes of the returning Orlandi, Buckley and very hopefully Lita on it. Don't get me wrong... If the intention is to keep Liam then he starts... It's a no brainer but if he is indeed off then let's crack on without him straight away. Here's to a good showing tomorrow. Uta SMF20

12:41pm Sat 28 Dec 13

blue-eyed-boy says...

Be nice to hear from the Organ Grinder, rather than his monkey Jones.
Be nice to hear from the Organ Grinder, rather than his monkey Jones. blue-eyed-boy

12:47pm Sat 28 Dec 13

tug509 says...

An indicator of how good Rohan is ,is when you read other teams sites and they are praising him or concerned at him playing ,charlton did the same ,but as we all know he didn`t play !. Agree with To Baldly Go ,please keep him in the middle ,i know he was a CB ,but i`m guessing it was his potential in the AMF role that brought about the change ,and for me he will continue to impress in that role. Great to see that it looks like he will be starting tomorrow . UTA
An indicator of how good Rohan is ,is when you read other teams sites and they are praising him or concerned at him playing ,charlton did the same ,but as we all know he didn`t play !. Agree with To Baldly Go ,please keep him in the middle ,i know he was a CB ,but i`m guessing it was his potential in the AMF role that brought about the change ,and for me he will continue to impress in that role. Great to see that it looks like he will be starting tomorrow . UTA tug509

1:21pm Sat 28 Dec 13

To baldly go says...

tug509 wrote:
An indicator of how good Rohan is ,is when you read other teams sites and they are praising him or concerned at him playing ,charlton did the same ,but as we all know he didn`t play !. Agree with To Baldly Go ,please keep him in the middle ,i know he was a CB ,but i`m guessing it was his potential in the AMF role that brought about the change ,and for me he will continue to impress in that role. Great to see that it looks like he will be starting tomorrow . UTA
Yes tug, when other sites are talking about the man it must be because they are afraid of him!
He has, in my mind the potential to become a dominant force not only for us but possibly England as well, the guys that good! Get that first goal under his belt and he will grow even more in confidence and become a monster in the oppositions eyes.
YOU DONT MESS WITH THE ROHAN could this be our chant for him?
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: An indicator of how good Rohan is ,is when you read other teams sites and they are praising him or concerned at him playing ,charlton did the same ,but as we all know he didn`t play !. Agree with To Baldly Go ,please keep him in the middle ,i know he was a CB ,but i`m guessing it was his potential in the AMF role that brought about the change ,and for me he will continue to impress in that role. Great to see that it looks like he will be starting tomorrow . UTA[/p][/quote]Yes tug, when other sites are talking about the man it must be because they are afraid of him! He has, in my mind the potential to become a dominant force not only for us but possibly England as well, the guys that good! Get that first goal under his belt and he will grow even more in confidence and become a monster in the oppositions eyes. YOU DONT MESS WITH THE ROHAN could this be our chant for him? To baldly go

1:23pm Sat 28 Dec 13

wiseman of hove says...

SMF20 wrote:
saraman wrote:
If Bridcutt is being sold then leave him out of the 11 to play Blackpool. His heart and mind will not be in it anyway. Ince must therefore be in the starting 11. Apparently Bridcutt had a bit of a stinker against Charlton.
As much as I hate to see it, I think you may be right my friend.

Given that OG doesn't seem to like 2 wide men i can see Ince in front of the back four with the other 3 midfield births filled by Crofts, Lua Lua and Agustien.
Ulloa up top with Barnes.
A 4-1-3-2 formation if you like and of course with Kuz back between the sticks.

Bench would be strong too with the likes of the returning Orlandi, Buckley and very hopefully Lita on it.

Don't get me wrong... If the intention is to keep Liam then he starts... It's a no brainer but if he is indeed off then let's crack on without him straight away.

Here's to a good showing tomorrow.

Uta
Concur with both of you.
[quote][p][bold]SMF20[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saraman[/bold] wrote: If Bridcutt is being sold then leave him out of the 11 to play Blackpool. His heart and mind will not be in it anyway. Ince must therefore be in the starting 11. Apparently Bridcutt had a bit of a stinker against Charlton.[/p][/quote]As much as I hate to see it, I think you may be right my friend. Given that OG doesn't seem to like 2 wide men i can see Ince in front of the back four with the other 3 midfield births filled by Crofts, Lua Lua and Agustien. Ulloa up top with Barnes. A 4-1-3-2 formation if you like and of course with Kuz back between the sticks. Bench would be strong too with the likes of the returning Orlandi, Buckley and very hopefully Lita on it. Don't get me wrong... If the intention is to keep Liam then he starts... It's a no brainer but if he is indeed off then let's crack on without him straight away. Here's to a good showing tomorrow. Uta[/p][/quote]Concur with both of you. wiseman of hove

1:23pm Sat 28 Dec 13

tinker111 says...

Ince should never been on bench start YES
Ince should never been on bench start YES tinker111

1:44pm Sat 28 Dec 13

tug509 says...

To baldly go wrote:
tug509 wrote:
An indicator of how good Rohan is ,is when you read other teams sites and they are praising him or concerned at him playing ,charlton did the same ,but as we all know he didn`t play !. Agree with To Baldly Go ,please keep him in the middle ,i know he was a CB ,but i`m guessing it was his potential in the AMF role that brought about the change ,and for me he will continue to impress in that role. Great to see that it looks like he will be starting tomorrow . UTA
Yes tug, when other sites are talking about the man it must be because they are afraid of him!
He has, in my mind the potential to become a dominant force not only for us but possibly England as well, the guys that good! Get that first goal under his belt and he will grow even more in confidence and become a monster in the oppositions eyes.
YOU DONT MESS WITH THE ROHAN could this be our chant for him?
When he was MOtM against Bolton and took his goal well ,he ran them ragged ,he has a lot of ability for a lad his size ,and he`s skills will improve ,as will his confidence if he gets the game time imho ,whether we can keep Liam or not ,this guy brings a lot to the table .

YOU DONT MESS WITH THE ROHAN ,yeah i can hear that now !. UTA
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: An indicator of how good Rohan is ,is when you read other teams sites and they are praising him or concerned at him playing ,charlton did the same ,but as we all know he didn`t play !. Agree with To Baldly Go ,please keep him in the middle ,i know he was a CB ,but i`m guessing it was his potential in the AMF role that brought about the change ,and for me he will continue to impress in that role. Great to see that it looks like he will be starting tomorrow . UTA[/p][/quote]Yes tug, when other sites are talking about the man it must be because they are afraid of him! He has, in my mind the potential to become a dominant force not only for us but possibly England as well, the guys that good! Get that first goal under his belt and he will grow even more in confidence and become a monster in the oppositions eyes. YOU DONT MESS WITH THE ROHAN could this be our chant for him?[/p][/quote]When he was MOtM against Bolton and took his goal well ,he ran them ragged ,he has a lot of ability for a lad his size ,and he`s skills will improve ,as will his confidence if he gets the game time imho ,whether we can keep Liam or not ,this guy brings a lot to the table . YOU DONT MESS WITH THE ROHAN ,yeah i can hear that now !. UTA tug509

2:13pm Sat 28 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

tug509 wrote:
An indicator of how good Rohan is ,is when you read other teams sites and they are praising him or concerned at him playing ,charlton did the same ,but as we all know he didn`t play !. Agree with To Baldly Go ,please keep him in the middle ,i know he was a CB ,but i`m guessing it was his potential in the AMF role that brought about the change ,and for me he will continue to impress in that role. Great to see that it looks like he will be starting tomorrow . UTA
You are right Tug, when opposing fans highlight our players as possible dangers, this does say a lot about the player.
To expand a little on what you say, those opposing fans comments are exactly why the Bridcutts of this world get sold and the Inces get their chance. Bridcutt goes Ince steps in and in a couple of years we will be talking about how we must fend off other clubs that want to buy Ince, even if we were to be in the prem division.
The hope that we should all have is that our new facility will create these situations on a regular basis, every year or two having a gem on the field being challenged for his spot by an up and coming gem. Find one, develop one and create competition within the squad. If senior players within the squad have to look over their shoulder at the kid wanting his spot, this can only be good for the club, good in terms of our results and our financial stability.
If we can sell Bridcutt for around 4 million and replace him with Ince who cost next to nothing, that gives us money to strengthen in other areas, that is not a bad thing, the trick will be to find an understudy to Ince for next to nothing and that brings us back to our new facility and all that it promises.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: An indicator of how good Rohan is ,is when you read other teams sites and they are praising him or concerned at him playing ,charlton did the same ,but as we all know he didn`t play !. Agree with To Baldly Go ,please keep him in the middle ,i know he was a CB ,but i`m guessing it was his potential in the AMF role that brought about the change ,and for me he will continue to impress in that role. Great to see that it looks like he will be starting tomorrow . UTA[/p][/quote]You are right Tug, when opposing fans highlight our players as possible dangers, this does say a lot about the player. To expand a little on what you say, those opposing fans comments are exactly why the Bridcutts of this world get sold and the Inces get their chance. Bridcutt goes Ince steps in and in a couple of years we will be talking about how we must fend off other clubs that want to buy Ince, even if we were to be in the prem division. The hope that we should all have is that our new facility will create these situations on a regular basis, every year or two having a gem on the field being challenged for his spot by an up and coming gem. Find one, develop one and create competition within the squad. If senior players within the squad have to look over their shoulder at the kid wanting his spot, this can only be good for the club, good in terms of our results and our financial stability. If we can sell Bridcutt for around 4 million and replace him with Ince who cost next to nothing, that gives us money to strengthen in other areas, that is not a bad thing, the trick will be to find an understudy to Ince for next to nothing and that brings us back to our new facility and all that it promises. VegasSeagull

2:37pm Sat 28 Dec 13

tug509 says...

Hey Vegas ,yep that new training facility will not take long to reap some good young talent im sure . I was having a pint with an Everton mate of mine a few days back ,and he remarked on it ,and pointed out some of the benefits they have seen in recent years ,he told me the young lad Barkley is from their youth system ,apparently Martinez was quoted as saying ,iwould not sell him for a new record 86m ,i don`t know about that ,but my mate said they reckon there is another youngster who they believe will be even better !! ,frightening if true . If we have half the talent coming through our system ,your point will be proven ,a regular conveyor belt of old out new in ,i have to say that sounds a littlle over contrived and sterile to me ,but if it keeps our Great club moving forward ,i`ll get used to it .

Blackpool tomorrow ,tough side ,lousy quality pitch ,and 3 must win points ,would have been happy with a point away ,but after a bleak Boxing day ,a win is needed ,and 5-0 against Mouthbourne on News Years Day is imperative for my sanity ,i know a couple of their fans ,and i don`t need the earache . UTA
Hey Vegas ,yep that new training facility will not take long to reap some good young talent im sure . I was having a pint with an Everton mate of mine a few days back ,and he remarked on it ,and pointed out some of the benefits they have seen in recent years ,he told me the young lad Barkley is from their youth system ,apparently Martinez was quoted as saying ,iwould not sell him for a new record 86m ,i don`t know about that ,but my mate said they reckon there is another youngster who they believe will be even better !! ,frightening if true . If we have half the talent coming through our system ,your point will be proven ,a regular conveyor belt of old out new in ,i have to say that sounds a littlle over contrived and sterile to me ,but if it keeps our Great club moving forward ,i`ll get used to it . Blackpool tomorrow ,tough side ,lousy quality pitch ,and 3 must win points ,would have been happy with a point away ,but after a bleak Boxing day ,a win is needed ,and 5-0 against Mouthbourne on News Years Day is imperative for my sanity ,i know a couple of their fans ,and i don`t need the earache . UTA tug509

2:51pm Sat 28 Dec 13

To baldly go says...

Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely.
We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?
Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely. We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts? To baldly go

3:25pm Sat 28 Dec 13

tug509 says...

To baldly go wrote:
Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely.
We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?
Hi TBG ,i like the look of Wilson as well,Clarke his team mate is pretty good as well ,i still think Tom Pope could be good for a long term prospect ,but defenders ,one sticks out for me ,Harry Maguire ,Sheffield Utd ,20 years old and 6`4" tall ,according to Wiki ,he has played 20 games this season and scored 4 times not bad for a CB ,maybe worth a look for 500.000 ?. UTA
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely. We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Hi TBG ,i like the look of Wilson as well,Clarke his team mate is pretty good as well ,i still think Tom Pope could be good for a long term prospect ,but defenders ,one sticks out for me ,Harry Maguire ,Sheffield Utd ,20 years old and 6`4" tall ,according to Wiki ,he has played 20 games this season and scored 4 times not bad for a CB ,maybe worth a look for 500.000 ?. UTA tug509

3:32pm Sat 28 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

Tug I hate to say this but I think our season, 'might,' end quietly, top eight, and of course now I have said that we will go on to do great things and make the playoffs.
There have been those on this web site that have questioned some of Oscar's decisions, and I get that, but I can't wait to see what decisions he makes come next year. Next season will be all about Oscar, no Poyet left overs, who he lets go and who he retains will be all down to him. I could make a case for a whole bunch of current players being let go and I am wondering how Oscar honestly sees his current squad.
The guy is very affable, he is quiet and rather reserved but does he have a ruthless streak in him, that's what I want to know. I haven't a clue as to how much money he will be given to spend for next year, but what ever the sum is, it needs to be a figure that he can work with and I hope that he has the gonads to let the board know what he expects from them.
This squad is not Oscar's squad and the signings that have been made don't appear to be his signings, Lita kind of shows that, he just doesn't use him, but I am not saying that he should. I think Oscar agreed to the players that came in, what else could he do, but were they players that he would have chosen to sign had he been building the squad for a new season, I don't think they were, maybe Conway the exception.

Personally I could live with a top eight finish, considering all the injuries, but I would look for Oscar to improve the squad to a point where the top eight next year would not be our goal. Build a squad for the top two places and accept the playoffs if you have to, let's not build for the top six and hope we make it, and that is how I see or current squad.

I would like to see Oscar strip down the squad to it's bare bones, identify those that can deliver next year and build on those bones, and throw sentiment out of the window. A rebuild such I suggest would cost money, either in purchases or wages for season long loan deals for two or three quality players on top of who we might buy. Will Mr. Bloom give Oscar enough resources, does the club even have those resources, the FFP will still be in play next year, we will have to wait and see but selling Bridcutt will help.

So as I say, even though we are only half way thru the season, I would expect a quiet finish to the year, but hope that I am wrong, once this year is done and dusted, let the fireworks begin.
Tug I hate to say this but I think our season, 'might,' end quietly, top eight, and of course now I have said that we will go on to do great things and make the playoffs. There have been those on this web site that have questioned some of Oscar's decisions, and I get that, but I can't wait to see what decisions he makes come next year. Next season will be all about Oscar, no Poyet left overs, who he lets go and who he retains will be all down to him. I could make a case for a whole bunch of current players being let go and I am wondering how Oscar honestly sees his current squad. The guy is very affable, he is quiet and rather reserved but does he have a ruthless streak in him, that's what I want to know. I haven't a clue as to how much money he will be given to spend for next year, but what ever the sum is, it needs to be a figure that he can work with and I hope that he has the gonads to let the board know what he expects from them. This squad is not Oscar's squad and the signings that have been made don't appear to be his signings, Lita kind of shows that, he just doesn't use him, but I am not saying that he should. I think Oscar agreed to the players that came in, what else could he do, but were they players that he would have chosen to sign had he been building the squad for a new season, I don't think they were, maybe Conway the exception. Personally I could live with a top eight finish, considering all the injuries, but I would look for Oscar to improve the squad to a point where the top eight next year would not be our goal. Build a squad for the top two places and accept the playoffs if you have to, let's not build for the top six and hope we make it, and that is how I see or current squad. I would like to see Oscar strip down the squad to it's bare bones, identify those that can deliver next year and build on those bones, and throw sentiment out of the window. A rebuild such I suggest would cost money, either in purchases or wages for season long loan deals for two or three quality players on top of who we might buy. Will Mr. Bloom give Oscar enough resources, does the club even have those resources, the FFP will still be in play next year, we will have to wait and see but selling Bridcutt will help. So as I say, even though we are only half way thru the season, I would expect a quiet finish to the year, but hope that I am wrong, once this year is done and dusted, let the fireworks begin. VegasSeagull

3:45pm Sat 28 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

To baldly go wrote:
Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely.
We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?
My thoughts won't be popular but here goes. All bar one of the Spanish contingent can go. I would keep Ward, (sign him) in the back four but let the rest, including their back ups go, let Maksi go but keep Chicksen. Keep Thomas but let the other two go. Kaz and Barnes can go, even though I like both of them, Barnes looks like a player that wants a new challenge, hence he hasn't sign his new offer, and Kaz, for me he is an impact sub and no more. I would keep Crofts for another year but if a decent offer came in for Buckley I would let him go. Keep Ulloa and Keep Ince.
In short, I would decimate this squad.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely. We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?[/p][/quote]My thoughts won't be popular but here goes. All bar one of the Spanish contingent can go. I would keep Ward, (sign him) in the back four but let the rest, including their back ups go, let Maksi go but keep Chicksen. Keep Thomas but let the other two go. Kaz and Barnes can go, even though I like both of them, Barnes looks like a player that wants a new challenge, hence he hasn't sign his new offer, and Kaz, for me he is an impact sub and no more. I would keep Crofts for another year but if a decent offer came in for Buckley I would let him go. Keep Ulloa and Keep Ince. In short, I would decimate this squad. VegasSeagull

3:51pm Sat 28 Dec 13

To baldly go says...

tug509 wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely.
We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?
Hi TBG ,i like the look of Wilson as well,Clarke his team mate is pretty good as well ,i still think Tom Pope could be good for a long term prospect ,but defenders ,one sticks out for me ,Harry Maguire ,Sheffield Utd ,20 years old and 6`4" tall ,according to Wiki ,he has played 20 games this season and scored 4 times not bad for a CB ,maybe worth a look for 500.000 ?. UTA
Like your thinking, do you think we could tempt them to sign, we could offer their parent clubs to loan them back so we don't have the wage bill and it wouldn't upset their respective promotion hopes for this season. Either way I can see a rebuild conning next year regardless off what div we are in, we are carrying a lot of old experienced players who need replacing.
[quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely. We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Hi TBG ,i like the look of Wilson as well,Clarke his team mate is pretty good as well ,i still think Tom Pope could be good for a long term prospect ,but defenders ,one sticks out for me ,Harry Maguire ,Sheffield Utd ,20 years old and 6`4" tall ,according to Wiki ,he has played 20 games this season and scored 4 times not bad for a CB ,maybe worth a look for 500.000 ?. UTA[/p][/quote]Like your thinking, do you think we could tempt them to sign, we could offer their parent clubs to loan them back so we don't have the wage bill and it wouldn't upset their respective promotion hopes for this season. Either way I can see a rebuild conning next year regardless off what div we are in, we are carrying a lot of old experienced players who need replacing. To baldly go

4:09pm Sat 28 Dec 13

To baldly go says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely.
We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?
My thoughts won't be popular but here goes. All bar one of the Spanish contingent can go. I would keep Ward, (sign him) in the back four but let the rest, including their back ups go, let Maksi go but keep Chicksen. Keep Thomas but let the other two go. Kaz and Barnes can go, even though I like both of them, Barnes looks like a player that wants a new challenge, hence he hasn't sign his new offer, and Kaz, for me he is an impact sub and no more. I would keep Crofts for another year but if a decent offer came in for Buckley I would let him go. Keep Ulloa and Keep Ince.
In short, I would decimate this squad.
Agree to certain extent Vegas, but would keep Kaz as I think given the chance to play back to back games he will become more than an impact sub, he played 2 full games prior to his op and was stunning. Players I would like to keep and build around would be:
Keepers, TK and CA with Walker as understudy.
Defence, Caldi, Dunk, Chicksen, Ward
Midfield, Ince, Bridcutt, Orlandi, Agustien, Crofts, Jfc
Wingers, Buckley, LuaLua, March, Conway
Strikers, Ulloa, Cms
A lot of the above are loanees, out of contract and targets for prem teams so might be out of our hands anyway but a good nucleus to build on for another push for promotion IMO if this year falters.
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely. We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?[/p][/quote]My thoughts won't be popular but here goes. All bar one of the Spanish contingent can go. I would keep Ward, (sign him) in the back four but let the rest, including their back ups go, let Maksi go but keep Chicksen. Keep Thomas but let the other two go. Kaz and Barnes can go, even though I like both of them, Barnes looks like a player that wants a new challenge, hence he hasn't sign his new offer, and Kaz, for me he is an impact sub and no more. I would keep Crofts for another year but if a decent offer came in for Buckley I would let him go. Keep Ulloa and Keep Ince. In short, I would decimate this squad.[/p][/quote]Agree to certain extent Vegas, but would keep Kaz as I think given the chance to play back to back games he will become more than an impact sub, he played 2 full games prior to his op and was stunning. Players I would like to keep and build around would be: Keepers, TK and CA with Walker as understudy. Defence, Caldi, Dunk, Chicksen, Ward Midfield, Ince, Bridcutt, Orlandi, Agustien, Crofts, Jfc Wingers, Buckley, LuaLua, March, Conway Strikers, Ulloa, Cms A lot of the above are loanees, out of contract and targets for prem teams so might be out of our hands anyway but a good nucleus to build on for another push for promotion IMO if this year falters. To baldly go

4:10pm Sat 28 Dec 13

GosportGull says...

To baldly go wrote:
tug509 wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely.
We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?
Hi TBG ,i like the look of Wilson as well,Clarke his team mate is pretty good as well ,i still think Tom Pope could be good for a long term prospect ,but defenders ,one sticks out for me ,Harry Maguire ,Sheffield Utd ,20 years old and 6`4" tall ,according to Wiki ,he has played 20 games this season and scored 4 times not bad for a CB ,maybe worth a look for 500.000 ?. UTA
Like your thinking, do you think we could tempt them to sign, we could offer their parent clubs to loan them back so we don't have the wage bill and it wouldn't upset their respective promotion hopes for this season. Either way I can see a rebuild conning next year regardless off what div we are in, we are carrying a lot of old experienced players who need replacing.
I like the sound of these players too , maybe Oscar is reading this and will think the same .. But I doubt it ..Does make you wonder what our Scouts are doing ? We should be trawling the lower leagues for "potential" young players with a view to next 18 months ...
Interesting comments about basically starting from scratch with our squad ..Not a bad idea and i think it does need freshening up .. IF we can get better players in ... Its a Gamble ..but that is what Tony is good at after all :) UTA
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tug509[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely. We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Hi TBG ,i like the look of Wilson as well,Clarke his team mate is pretty good as well ,i still think Tom Pope could be good for a long term prospect ,but defenders ,one sticks out for me ,Harry Maguire ,Sheffield Utd ,20 years old and 6`4" tall ,according to Wiki ,he has played 20 games this season and scored 4 times not bad for a CB ,maybe worth a look for 500.000 ?. UTA[/p][/quote]Like your thinking, do you think we could tempt them to sign, we could offer their parent clubs to loan them back so we don't have the wage bill and it wouldn't upset their respective promotion hopes for this season. Either way I can see a rebuild conning next year regardless off what div we are in, we are carrying a lot of old experienced players who need replacing.[/p][/quote]I like the sound of these players too , maybe Oscar is reading this and will think the same .. But I doubt it ..Does make you wonder what our Scouts are doing ? We should be trawling the lower leagues for "potential" young players with a view to next 18 months ... Interesting comments about basically starting from scratch with our squad ..Not a bad idea and i think it does need freshening up .. IF we can get better players in ... Its a Gamble ..but that is what Tony is good at after all :) UTA GosportGull

4:20pm Sat 28 Dec 13

GosportGull says...

To baldly go wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely.
We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?
My thoughts won't be popular but here goes. All bar one of the Spanish contingent can go. I would keep Ward, (sign him) in the back four but let the rest, including their back ups go, let Maksi go but keep Chicksen. Keep Thomas but let the other two go. Kaz and Barnes can go, even though I like both of them, Barnes looks like a player that wants a new challenge, hence he hasn't sign his new offer, and Kaz, for me he is an impact sub and no more. I would keep Crofts for another year but if a decent offer came in for Buckley I would let him go. Keep Ulloa and Keep Ince.
In short, I would decimate this squad.
Agree to certain extent Vegas, but would keep Kaz as I think given the chance to play back to back games he will become more than an impact sub, he played 2 full games prior to his op and was stunning. Players I would like to keep and build around would be:
Keepers, TK and CA with Walker as understudy.
Defence, Caldi, Dunk, Chicksen, Ward
Midfield, Ince, Bridcutt, Orlandi, Agustien, Crofts, Jfc
Wingers, Buckley, LuaLua, March, Conway
Strikers, Ulloa, Cms
A lot of the above are loanees, out of contract and targets for prem teams so might be out of our hands anyway but a good nucleus to build on for another push for promotion IMO if this year falters.
Im not so sure about Caldi or Dunk in defence but happy with the rest. Just wonder what has happened to Solly March .. where did he vanish to ? He promised so much and has not had a look in .. Would love to have seen more of him this season.

Ince has been outstanding for us this season but i would like to see him at CB , purely because his height , strength and willingness to get the ball forward out of defence would be a definite positive for us ..plus the fact we really do need a new CB to replace Adam and Gordon..He has all the right credentials and knows the position. We have plenty of midfielders already . GG
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely. We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?[/p][/quote]My thoughts won't be popular but here goes. All bar one of the Spanish contingent can go. I would keep Ward, (sign him) in the back four but let the rest, including their back ups go, let Maksi go but keep Chicksen. Keep Thomas but let the other two go. Kaz and Barnes can go, even though I like both of them, Barnes looks like a player that wants a new challenge, hence he hasn't sign his new offer, and Kaz, for me he is an impact sub and no more. I would keep Crofts for another year but if a decent offer came in for Buckley I would let him go. Keep Ulloa and Keep Ince. In short, I would decimate this squad.[/p][/quote]Agree to certain extent Vegas, but would keep Kaz as I think given the chance to play back to back games he will become more than an impact sub, he played 2 full games prior to his op and was stunning. Players I would like to keep and build around would be: Keepers, TK and CA with Walker as understudy. Defence, Caldi, Dunk, Chicksen, Ward Midfield, Ince, Bridcutt, Orlandi, Agustien, Crofts, Jfc Wingers, Buckley, LuaLua, March, Conway Strikers, Ulloa, Cms A lot of the above are loanees, out of contract and targets for prem teams so might be out of our hands anyway but a good nucleus to build on for another push for promotion IMO if this year falters.[/p][/quote]Im not so sure about Caldi or Dunk in defence but happy with the rest. Just wonder what has happened to Solly March .. where did he vanish to ? He promised so much and has not had a look in .. Would love to have seen more of him this season. Ince has been outstanding for us this season but i would like to see him at CB , purely because his height , strength and willingness to get the ball forward out of defence would be a definite positive for us ..plus the fact we really do need a new CB to replace Adam and Gordon..He has all the right credentials and knows the position. We have plenty of midfielders already . GG GosportGull

5:00pm Sat 28 Dec 13

To baldly go says...

GG, I think Caldi still worthy of a place, maybe not as a first choice right back but a good back up, we need some one younger/better in that position.
Dunk? last chance saloon, he needs to take his chance when it comes, (fa cup?) he's still young and could learn from Upson etc given the chance.
On the Ince position, I think OG sees him as an attacking midfielder and is developing him in that role but like you say CB is a possibility.
Solly March, could be the fa cup for him if OG gives the others a rest, along with the likes of Chicksen, Jfc and a couple of others. Promising times ahead but we need to spend come summer I think. UTA
GG, I think Caldi still worthy of a place, maybe not as a first choice right back but a good back up, we need some one younger/better in that position. Dunk? last chance saloon, he needs to take his chance when it comes, (fa cup?) he's still young and could learn from Upson etc given the chance. On the Ince position, I think OG sees him as an attacking midfielder and is developing him in that role but like you say CB is a possibility. Solly March, could be the fa cup for him if OG gives the others a rest, along with the likes of Chicksen, Jfc and a couple of others. Promising times ahead but we need to spend come summer I think. UTA To baldly go

5:20pm Sat 28 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

To baldly go wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
To baldly go wrote:
Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely.
We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?
My thoughts won't be popular but here goes. All bar one of the Spanish contingent can go. I would keep Ward, (sign him) in the back four but let the rest, including their back ups go, let Maksi go but keep Chicksen. Keep Thomas but let the other two go. Kaz and Barnes can go, even though I like both of them, Barnes looks like a player that wants a new challenge, hence he hasn't sign his new offer, and Kaz, for me he is an impact sub and no more. I would keep Crofts for another year but if a decent offer came in for Buckley I would let him go. Keep Ulloa and Keep Ince.
In short, I would decimate this squad.
Agree to certain extent Vegas, but would keep Kaz as I think given the chance to play back to back games he will become more than an impact sub, he played 2 full games prior to his op and was stunning. Players I would like to keep and build around would be:
Keepers, TK and CA with Walker as understudy.
Defence, Caldi, Dunk, Chicksen, Ward
Midfield, Ince, Bridcutt, Orlandi, Agustien, Crofts, Jfc
Wingers, Buckley, LuaLua, March, Conway
Strikers, Ulloa, Cms
A lot of the above are loanees, out of contract and targets for prem teams so might be out of our hands anyway but a good nucleus to build on for another push for promotion IMO if this year falters.
TBG, the problem I have with keeping the likes of Calde and Dunk as cover is, they are simply not quick enough across the ground. If they were to be back up I would assume that we would acquire younger and quicker defenders as starters, would we not also want quicker replacements. Experience might give you half a yard when defending but it doesn't give you pace when breaking out or chasing back.

As for Kaz, we agree to differ.

Ince , Orlandi and Crofts, all three would be good for the squad of next year but Bridcutt will be gone, IMHO, and I haven't seen enough of Augustien to render an opinion, Conway a must for me along with Ulloa, I can live with CMS staying but I don't think Oscar will have him running around chasing down every ball, he needs more purpose to his runs, assuming that Oscar would consider starting two strikers. I can see CMS using his speed to get onto thru balls from midfield and or getting on the end of crosses from Conway.

Getting back to our defenders, if we were to obtain the services of quicker players with the required ability, then let Dunk, El-Abd and Bruno go, and keep Greer, Upson and Calde as cover for a year.
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely. We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?[/p][/quote]My thoughts won't be popular but here goes. All bar one of the Spanish contingent can go. I would keep Ward, (sign him) in the back four but let the rest, including their back ups go, let Maksi go but keep Chicksen. Keep Thomas but let the other two go. Kaz and Barnes can go, even though I like both of them, Barnes looks like a player that wants a new challenge, hence he hasn't sign his new offer, and Kaz, for me he is an impact sub and no more. I would keep Crofts for another year but if a decent offer came in for Buckley I would let him go. Keep Ulloa and Keep Ince. In short, I would decimate this squad.[/p][/quote]Agree to certain extent Vegas, but would keep Kaz as I think given the chance to play back to back games he will become more than an impact sub, he played 2 full games prior to his op and was stunning. Players I would like to keep and build around would be: Keepers, TK and CA with Walker as understudy. Defence, Caldi, Dunk, Chicksen, Ward Midfield, Ince, Bridcutt, Orlandi, Agustien, Crofts, Jfc Wingers, Buckley, LuaLua, March, Conway Strikers, Ulloa, Cms A lot of the above are loanees, out of contract and targets for prem teams so might be out of our hands anyway but a good nucleus to build on for another push for promotion IMO if this year falters.[/p][/quote]TBG, the problem I have with keeping the likes of Calde and Dunk as cover is, they are simply not quick enough across the ground. If they were to be back up I would assume that we would acquire younger and quicker defenders as starters, would we not also want quicker replacements. Experience might give you half a yard when defending but it doesn't give you pace when breaking out or chasing back. As for Kaz, we agree to differ. Ince , Orlandi and Crofts, all three would be good for the squad of next year but Bridcutt will be gone, IMHO, and I haven't seen enough of Augustien to render an opinion, Conway a must for me along with Ulloa, I can live with CMS staying but I don't think Oscar will have him running around chasing down every ball, he needs more purpose to his runs, assuming that Oscar would consider starting two strikers. I can see CMS using his speed to get onto thru balls from midfield and or getting on the end of crosses from Conway. Getting back to our defenders, if we were to obtain the services of quicker players with the required ability, then let Dunk, El-Abd and Bruno go, and keep Greer, Upson and Calde as cover for a year. VegasSeagull

6:18pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Neville says...

Interesting posts re the team for next season.
In my opinion there are 2 scenarios
If we remain in Championship then I would keep:
Keepers, TK and new 2nd choice needed plus Walker as understudy.
Defence, Bruno, Greer,Upson,Ward,Dun
k
Midfield, Ince, Bridcutt, Orlandi, Agustien, Crofts, JFC plus one attacking midfielder
Wingers, Buckley, LuaLua, March, Conway
Strikers, Ulloa, Cms plus one new striker

If we were fortunate enough to get to Premiership then I would keep
Keepers TK plus new 2nd choice plus Walker as understudy
Defence Upson and Ward
Midfield Ince,Orlandi,Agustie
n Crofts,JFC(bench)
Strikers Ulloa,CMS plus new striker withConway,Buckley and Lua Lua (Bench)
Interesting posts re the team for next season. In my opinion there are 2 scenarios If we remain in Championship then I would keep: Keepers, TK and new 2nd choice needed plus Walker as understudy. Defence, Bruno, Greer,Upson,Ward,Dun k Midfield, Ince, Bridcutt, Orlandi, Agustien, Crofts, JFC plus one attacking midfielder Wingers, Buckley, LuaLua, March, Conway Strikers, Ulloa, Cms plus one new striker If we were fortunate enough to get to Premiership then I would keep Keepers TK plus new 2nd choice plus Walker as understudy Defence Upson and Ward Midfield Ince,Orlandi,Agustie n Crofts,JFC(bench) Strikers Ulloa,CMS plus new striker withConway,Buckley and Lua Lua (Bench) Neville

7:01pm Sat 28 Dec 13

ringtone says...

Vegas, forget Bridcutt going to Sunderland.

Gus will be coming for Ulloa.

How much would you accept? considering how desperate sunderland will be to sign a goalscorer.
Vegas, forget Bridcutt going to Sunderland. Gus will be coming for Ulloa. How much would you accept? considering how desperate sunderland will be to sign a goalscorer. ringtone

7:16pm Sat 28 Dec 13

KeefyH44 says...

blue-eyed-boy wrote:
Be nice to hear from the Organ Grinder, rather than his monkey Jones.
Why the personal comment! Have you considered that Oscar may not like the limelight, or that as English isn't his natural tongue he finds it difficult to easily express himself! What has Jones ever done to deserve such derision and disrespect?
[quote][p][bold]blue-eyed-boy[/bold] wrote: Be nice to hear from the Organ Grinder, rather than his monkey Jones.[/p][/quote]Why the personal comment! Have you considered that Oscar may not like the limelight, or that as English isn't his natural tongue he finds it difficult to easily express himself! What has Jones ever done to deserve such derision and disrespect? KeefyH44

7:38pm Sat 28 Dec 13

ringtone says...

KeefyH44 wrote:
blue-eyed-boy wrote:
Be nice to hear from the Organ Grinder, rather than his monkey Jones.
Why the personal comment! Have you considered that Oscar may not like the limelight, or that as English isn't his natural tongue he finds it difficult to easily express himself! What has Jones ever done to deserve such derision and disrespect?
So if what you say is true, how the hell did he get the job.

Was he too shy to turn up for the interview?

Actually i think you maybe onto something, mabe he is just a tracksuit and the clubs owners are picking the team.
[quote][p][bold]KeefyH44[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blue-eyed-boy[/bold] wrote: Be nice to hear from the Organ Grinder, rather than his monkey Jones.[/p][/quote]Why the personal comment! Have you considered that Oscar may not like the limelight, or that as English isn't his natural tongue he finds it difficult to easily express himself! What has Jones ever done to deserve such derision and disrespect?[/p][/quote]So if what you say is true, how the hell did he get the job. Was he too shy to turn up for the interview? Actually i think you maybe onto something, mabe he is just a tracksuit and the clubs owners are picking the team. ringtone

8:04pm Sat 28 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

ringtone wrote:
Vegas, forget Bridcutt going to Sunderland.

Gus will be coming for Ulloa.

How much would you accept? considering how desperate sunderland will be to sign a goalscorer.
Bridcutt to Sunderland may not happen, but Bridcutt to another probably will happen.

What would I accept for Ulloa, well I wouldn't sell him in this window unless we had an agreement that kept him with us for the remainder of the season, much like the Zaha deal between Palace and United.
As far as price goes, well we have already reportedly tuned down 5 million, so that would be my starting point. Sell him now and I guess between 5 and 7 million. If he is not sold now but continues to score goals until the end of the season, who knows what his worth might be come the end of the season. Could Ulloa be seen as viable for one of the top ten prem clubs, maybe, and if he was we know that some of them will pay handsomely for a striker, upwards of 7 million could be right.
[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Vegas, forget Bridcutt going to Sunderland. Gus will be coming for Ulloa. How much would you accept? considering how desperate sunderland will be to sign a goalscorer.[/p][/quote]Bridcutt to Sunderland may not happen, but Bridcutt to another probably will happen. What would I accept for Ulloa, well I wouldn't sell him in this window unless we had an agreement that kept him with us for the remainder of the season, much like the Zaha deal between Palace and United. As far as price goes, well we have already reportedly tuned down 5 million, so that would be my starting point. Sell him now and I guess between 5 and 7 million. If he is not sold now but continues to score goals until the end of the season, who knows what his worth might be come the end of the season. Could Ulloa be seen as viable for one of the top ten prem clubs, maybe, and if he was we know that some of them will pay handsomely for a striker, upwards of 7 million could be right. VegasSeagull

8:19pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Neville says...

According to interview Poyet does have money to spend in Jan transfer window.
Would not rule out a double bid.
IMO Bridcutt 2.75M Ulloa 5M Barnes 750k(Burnley)
I don't expect any top teams to come in for them,Bridcutt just does score goals and Ulloa is good but has not got the pace for a top Premiership side.
Likely teams to make offers:
Sunderland,Aston Villa,Norwich,West Ham and Fulham.
According to interview Poyet does have money to spend in Jan transfer window. Would not rule out a double bid. IMO Bridcutt 2.75M Ulloa 5M Barnes 750k(Burnley) I don't expect any top teams to come in for them,Bridcutt just does score goals and Ulloa is good but has not got the pace for a top Premiership side. Likely teams to make offers: Sunderland,Aston Villa,Norwich,West Ham and Fulham. Neville

8:47pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Liambhataylor19 says...

Do we really need Liam anymore we got ince whose playing really well ATM and hearing from people saying bridcutt didn't look up to it against Charlton my opinion my midfield 3 would be crofts ince and bridcutt
Do we really need Liam anymore we got ince whose playing really well ATM and hearing from people saying bridcutt didn't look up to it against Charlton my opinion my midfield 3 would be crofts ince and bridcutt Liambhataylor19

10:13pm Sat 28 Dec 13

barnieb says...

Rohan Ince is a sublime talent and when fit,should always start.He can pass,his movement off the ball makes space for others,he can head the ball defensively and is the best tackler in the team.He is related to Paul and Tom Ince,what a footballing gene that is !
Rohan Ince is a sublime talent and when fit,should always start.He can pass,his movement off the ball makes space for others,he can head the ball defensively and is the best tackler in the team.He is related to Paul and Tom Ince,what a footballing gene that is ! barnieb

11:11pm Sat 28 Dec 13

brightonup says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Vegas, forget Bridcutt going to Sunderland.

Gus will be coming for Ulloa.

How much would you accept? considering how desperate sunderland will be to sign a goalscorer.
Bridcutt to Sunderland may not happen, but Bridcutt to another probably will happen.

What would I accept for Ulloa, well I wouldn't sell him in this window unless we had an agreement that kept him with us for the remainder of the season, much like the Zaha deal between Palace and United.
As far as price goes, well we have already reportedly tuned down 5 million, so that would be my starting point. Sell him now and I guess between 5 and 7 million. If he is not sold now but continues to score goals until the end of the season, who knows what his worth might be come the end of the season. Could Ulloa be seen as viable for one of the top ten prem clubs, maybe, and if he was we know that some of them will pay handsomely for a striker, upwards of 7 million could be right.
Vegas
I am asking you nicely...
Will you STOP encouraging the trolls by responding to their malevolent posts with serious answers.
By doing so, you are keeping decent Albion fans off this site.
If you don't realise it already (unbelievable if true) Dungtone has no interest in the welfare of the Albion. He only has an interest in engaging people like you in a debate to legitimize his unrelenting attack on our great club.
PLEASE STOP - YOUR INDISCRIMINATE PONTIFICATING WITH TROLLS IS DRIVING FANS AWAY FROM THIS SITE!!!!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Vegas, forget Bridcutt going to Sunderland. Gus will be coming for Ulloa. How much would you accept? considering how desperate sunderland will be to sign a goalscorer.[/p][/quote]Bridcutt to Sunderland may not happen, but Bridcutt to another probably will happen. What would I accept for Ulloa, well I wouldn't sell him in this window unless we had an agreement that kept him with us for the remainder of the season, much like the Zaha deal between Palace and United. As far as price goes, well we have already reportedly tuned down 5 million, so that would be my starting point. Sell him now and I guess between 5 and 7 million. If he is not sold now but continues to score goals until the end of the season, who knows what his worth might be come the end of the season. Could Ulloa be seen as viable for one of the top ten prem clubs, maybe, and if he was we know that some of them will pay handsomely for a striker, upwards of 7 million could be right.[/p][/quote]Vegas I am asking you nicely... Will you STOP encouraging the trolls by responding to their malevolent posts with serious answers. By doing so, you are keeping decent Albion fans off this site. If you don't realise it already (unbelievable if true) Dungtone has no interest in the welfare of the Albion. He only has an interest in engaging people like you in a debate to legitimize his unrelenting attack on our great club. PLEASE STOP - YOUR INDISCRIMINATE PONTIFICATING WITH TROLLS IS DRIVING FANS AWAY FROM THIS SITE!!!! brightonup

3:48am Sun 29 Dec 13

VegasSeagull says...

brightonup wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Vegas, forget Bridcutt going to Sunderland.

Gus will be coming for Ulloa.

How much would you accept? considering how desperate sunderland will be to sign a goalscorer.
Bridcutt to Sunderland may not happen, but Bridcutt to another probably will happen.

What would I accept for Ulloa, well I wouldn't sell him in this window unless we had an agreement that kept him with us for the remainder of the season, much like the Zaha deal between Palace and United.
As far as price goes, well we have already reportedly tuned down 5 million, so that would be my starting point. Sell him now and I guess between 5 and 7 million. If he is not sold now but continues to score goals until the end of the season, who knows what his worth might be come the end of the season. Could Ulloa be seen as viable for one of the top ten prem clubs, maybe, and if he was we know that some of them will pay handsomely for a striker, upwards of 7 million could be right.
Vegas
I am asking you nicely...
Will you STOP encouraging the trolls by responding to their malevolent posts with serious answers.
By doing so, you are keeping decent Albion fans off this site.
If you don't realise it already (unbelievable if true) Dungtone has no interest in the welfare of the Albion. He only has an interest in engaging people like you in a debate to legitimize his unrelenting attack on our great club.
PLEASE STOP - YOUR INDISCRIMINATE PONTIFICATING WITH TROLLS IS DRIVING FANS AWAY FROM THIS SITE!!!!
If a fair question is asked in a fair manner, then I will answer it no matter who it comes from. Sad to say comments just as the one you have directed to me, gives me the idea that I don't want to contribute, just who the hell do you think you are to tell me that I have, 'driven fans away.'
I will do as you ask, I will stop trying to answer fair questions no matter who they might come from, in fact, I will stop commenting all together. Shove it ar$sehole.
[quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Vegas, forget Bridcutt going to Sunderland. Gus will be coming for Ulloa. How much would you accept? considering how desperate sunderland will be to sign a goalscorer.[/p][/quote]Bridcutt to Sunderland may not happen, but Bridcutt to another probably will happen. What would I accept for Ulloa, well I wouldn't sell him in this window unless we had an agreement that kept him with us for the remainder of the season, much like the Zaha deal between Palace and United. As far as price goes, well we have already reportedly tuned down 5 million, so that would be my starting point. Sell him now and I guess between 5 and 7 million. If he is not sold now but continues to score goals until the end of the season, who knows what his worth might be come the end of the season. Could Ulloa be seen as viable for one of the top ten prem clubs, maybe, and if he was we know that some of them will pay handsomely for a striker, upwards of 7 million could be right.[/p][/quote]Vegas I am asking you nicely... Will you STOP encouraging the trolls by responding to their malevolent posts with serious answers. By doing so, you are keeping decent Albion fans off this site. If you don't realise it already (unbelievable if true) Dungtone has no interest in the welfare of the Albion. He only has an interest in engaging people like you in a debate to legitimize his unrelenting attack on our great club. PLEASE STOP - YOUR INDISCRIMINATE PONTIFICATING WITH TROLLS IS DRIVING FANS AWAY FROM THIS SITE!!!![/p][/quote]If a fair question is asked in a fair manner, then I will answer it no matter who it comes from. Sad to say comments just as the one you have directed to me, gives me the idea that I don't want to contribute, just who the hell do you think you are to tell me that I have, 'driven fans away.' I will do as you ask, I will stop trying to answer fair questions no matter who they might come from, in fact, I will stop commenting all together. Shove it ar$sehole. VegasSeagull

7:08am Sun 29 Dec 13

brightonup says...

VegasSeagull wrote:
brightonup wrote:
VegasSeagull wrote:
ringtone wrote:
Vegas, forget Bridcutt going to Sunderland.

Gus will be coming for Ulloa.

How much would you accept? considering how desperate sunderland will be to sign a goalscorer.
Bridcutt to Sunderland may not happen, but Bridcutt to another probably will happen.

What would I accept for Ulloa, well I wouldn't sell him in this window unless we had an agreement that kept him with us for the remainder of the season, much like the Zaha deal between Palace and United.
As far as price goes, well we have already reportedly tuned down 5 million, so that would be my starting point. Sell him now and I guess between 5 and 7 million. If he is not sold now but continues to score goals until the end of the season, who knows what his worth might be come the end of the season. Could Ulloa be seen as viable for one of the top ten prem clubs, maybe, and if he was we know that some of them will pay handsomely for a striker, upwards of 7 million could be right.
Vegas
I am asking you nicely...
Will you STOP encouraging the trolls by responding to their malevolent posts with serious answers.
By doing so, you are keeping decent Albion fans off this site.
If you don't realise it already (unbelievable if true) Dungtone has no interest in the welfare of the Albion. He only has an interest in engaging people like you in a debate to legitimize his unrelenting attack on our great club.
PLEASE STOP - YOUR INDISCRIMINATE PONTIFICATING WITH TROLLS IS DRIVING FANS AWAY FROM THIS SITE!!!!
If a fair question is asked in a fair manner, then I will answer it no matter who it comes from. Sad to say comments just as the one you have directed to me, gives me the idea that I don't want to contribute, just who the hell do you think you are to tell me that I have, 'driven fans away.'
I will do as you ask, I will stop trying to answer fair questions no matter who they might come from, in fact, I will stop commenting all together. Shove it ar$sehole.
What an odd, inappropriate response! You encourage trolls (who have nothing helpful, new, or positive to say about the Albion) with generally courteous and serious answers.... and then you lose your cool (and manners) with genuine fans who ask you to stop this boring cycle!
Surely you have the capacity to discriminate between the troll and the supporter?
I will refrain from returning your insult, and hope you will return when you have had a chance to think about the effects of your 'spread shot' contributions on here!
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]brightonup[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote: Vegas, forget Bridcutt going to Sunderland. Gus will be coming for Ulloa. How much would you accept? considering how desperate sunderland will be to sign a goalscorer.[/p][/quote]Bridcutt to Sunderland may not happen, but Bridcutt to another probably will happen. What would I accept for Ulloa, well I wouldn't sell him in this window unless we had an agreement that kept him with us for the remainder of the season, much like the Zaha deal between Palace and United. As far as price goes, well we have already reportedly tuned down 5 million, so that would be my starting point. Sell him now and I guess between 5 and 7 million. If he is not sold now but continues to score goals until the end of the season, who knows what his worth might be come the end of the season. Could Ulloa be seen as viable for one of the top ten prem clubs, maybe, and if he was we know that some of them will pay handsomely for a striker, upwards of 7 million could be right.[/p][/quote]Vegas I am asking you nicely... Will you STOP encouraging the trolls by responding to their malevolent posts with serious answers. By doing so, you are keeping decent Albion fans off this site. If you don't realise it already (unbelievable if true) Dungtone has no interest in the welfare of the Albion. He only has an interest in engaging people like you in a debate to legitimize his unrelenting attack on our great club. PLEASE STOP - YOUR INDISCRIMINATE PONTIFICATING WITH TROLLS IS DRIVING FANS AWAY FROM THIS SITE!!!![/p][/quote]If a fair question is asked in a fair manner, then I will answer it no matter who it comes from. Sad to say comments just as the one you have directed to me, gives me the idea that I don't want to contribute, just who the hell do you think you are to tell me that I have, 'driven fans away.' I will do as you ask, I will stop trying to answer fair questions no matter who they might come from, in fact, I will stop commenting all together. Shove it ar$sehole.[/p][/quote]What an odd, inappropriate response! You encourage trolls (who have nothing helpful, new, or positive to say about the Albion) with generally courteous and serious answers.... and then you lose your cool (and manners) with genuine fans who ask you to stop this boring cycle! Surely you have the capacity to discriminate between the troll and the supporter? I will refrain from returning your insult, and hope you will return when you have had a chance to think about the effects of your 'spread shot' contributions on here! brightonup

10:34am Sun 29 Dec 13

wiltshire seagull says...

To baldly go wrote:
Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely.
We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?
Careful about your Premiership negativity TBG you know it can get you into trouble on this site....(I agree as many would but are afraid to say). Of course we WILL get there but not for a season or two yet IMHO, of course.
Good things are happening to BHAFC, long may it continue. Concerning Rohan Ince, I like the cut of his jib, seen him play twice, have to say down at Yeovil he had an absolute shocker! I think we will get the three points today, not able to go but looking forward to seeing us beat Reading in the cup next week.
HNY to my two readers...
UTA..........
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely. We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Careful about your Premiership negativity TBG you know it can get you into trouble on this site....(I agree as many would but are afraid to say). Of course we WILL get there but not for a season or two yet IMHO, of course. Good things are happening to BHAFC, long may it continue. Concerning Rohan Ince, I like the cut of his jib, seen him play twice, have to say down at Yeovil he had an absolute shocker! I think we will get the three points today, not able to go but looking forward to seeing us beat Reading in the cup next week. HNY to my two readers... UTA.......... wiltshire seagull

2:58pm Sun 29 Dec 13

To baldly go says...

wiltshire seagull wrote:
To baldly go wrote: Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely. We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?
Careful about your Premiership negativity TBG you know it can get you into trouble on this site....(I agree as many would but are afraid to say). Of course we WILL get there but not for a season or two yet IMHO, of course. Good things are happening to BHAFC, long may it continue. Concerning Rohan Ince, I like the cut of his jib, seen him play twice, have to say down at Yeovil he had an absolute shocker! I think we will get the three points today, not able to go but looking forward to seeing us beat Reading in the cup next week. HNY to my two readers... UTA..........
WS, I would love to get there this season and will cheer the team along at as many games as i can to, but look at what happens to those that run before they can walk, i dont want that for the Albion, go up and stay up is what we deserve and when it does we will be the envy of many others. A cracking line up for todays match, hopefully a repeat of the 6-1 drubbing we gave them at our place last season. UTA
[quote][p][bold]wiltshire seagull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote: Tug/Vegas, it's exactly what all the investment is about, long term stability, we all get frustrated at every loss and air our thoughts, hence my rant after the Charlton game, but we already have some good youngsters in the pipeline and the academy will only help our position. Are we ready for the prem? IMHO, not yet, but if it happens, great, as long as we keep our heads and use the money wisely. We keep talking about our players being poached, how about us poaching some talent from others? I like the look of young Callum Wilson from Coventry, 21 and banging in the goals, £1m should get him, and we should be looking for some defenders as well, any thoughts?[/p][/quote]Careful about your Premiership negativity TBG you know it can get you into trouble on this site....(I agree as many would but are afraid to say). Of course we WILL get there but not for a season or two yet IMHO, of course. Good things are happening to BHAFC, long may it continue. Concerning Rohan Ince, I like the cut of his jib, seen him play twice, have to say down at Yeovil he had an absolute shocker! I think we will get the three points today, not able to go but looking forward to seeing us beat Reading in the cup next week. HNY to my two readers... UTA..........[/p][/quote]WS, I would love to get there this season and will cheer the team along at as many games as i can to, but look at what happens to those that run before they can walk, i dont want that for the Albion, go up and stay up is what we deserve and when it does we will be the envy of many others. A cracking line up for todays match, hopefully a repeat of the 6-1 drubbing we gave them at our place last season. UTA To baldly go

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